Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-11-02 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:19 pm, many eyes noted that James Sparenberg wrote:
>  On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 05:01 am, many eyes noted that James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > Yep normal operation.  When you reset time especially this much it has
> > > to re-sync X.  Though I don't have the details I do know that X is time
> > > dependent.  Which is why it needs to re-sync.
> >
> > I tried it by 10 minutes, because the system was out that much when I
> > changed to daylight saving. Instead of KDE I took your advise and altered
> > it through MCC (not that I knew what that was, just typed it onto the
> > konsole and entered root password.) and there was no screen blanking,
> > just changed the clock and that was it.
>
> MCC is Mandrake Control Center (aka DrakConf) the main configuration
> tool for Mandrake.  Oh and I know why you kept loosing "time"  In KDE
> when you set time you also have to set the zone.  No matter if it says
> the right one or not.  If you don't it defaults to UCT or some such
> nonsense.  

Thanks James,
 I have trouble with the acronyms, still, but discovered what it was when 
I typed it in konsole.

Charlie.

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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-11-02 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 17:43, Charlie wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 05:01 am, many eyes noted that James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Yep normal operation.  When you reset time especially this much it has
> > to re-sync X.  Though I don't have the details I do know that X is time
> > dependent.  Which is why it needs to re-sync.
> 
> I tried it by 10 minutes, because the system was out that much when I changed 
> to daylight saving. Instead of KDE I took your advise and altered it through 
> MCC (not that I knew what that was, just typed it onto the konsole and 
> entered root password.) and there was no screen blanking, just changed the 
> clock and that was it.

MCC is Mandrake Control Center (aka DrakConf) the main configuration
tool for Mandrake.  Oh and I know why you kept loosing "time"  In KDE
when you set time you also have to set the zone.  No matter if it says
the right one or not.  If you don't it defaults to UCT or some such
nonsense.  

> 
> Must say that I like it that way better, because the blanking out always gives 
> me a bit of a shock, though I know that is what is supposed to happen. Makes 
> one feel like control is lost. Not that control was ever owned.
> 
> Charlie


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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-11-01 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 05:01 am, many eyes noted that James Sparenberg wrote:
> Yep normal operation.  When you reset time especially this much it has
> to re-sync X.  Though I don't have the details I do know that X is time
> dependent.  Which is why it needs to re-sync.

I tried it by 10 minutes, because the system was out that much when I changed 
to daylight saving. Instead of KDE I took your advise and altered it through 
MCC (not that I knew what that was, just typed it onto the konsole and 
entered root password.) and there was no screen blanking, just changed the 
clock and that was it.

Must say that I like it that way better, because the blanking out always gives 
me a bit of a shock, though I know that is what is supposed to happen. Makes 
one feel like control is lost. Not that control was ever owned.

Charlie

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Just as it is.
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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-11-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 02:40, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Sunday 02 Nov 2003 5:12 am, dfox wrote:
> > Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem
> >
> > >Sounds like you may be missing one or more of these.
> > >
> > >locales-en-2.3.1.4-6mdk
> > >locales-2.3.1.4-6mdk
> >
> > I have the locales rpms installed but I have a different problem, and it
> > still isn't working quite right in 9.2. For whatever reason, the system
> > eventually changes to a strange time zone - sometimes it is as much as 7
> > hours off pst. When I start kde the clock is fine, but eventually
> > (sometimes in a few hours) will change the time all by itself.
> 
> Sounds like ntp reseting the clock to the wrong timezone?
> 

I'd go into MCC and reset time there rather than from KDE.  This way you
get NTP set as well.  

> > And does anyone else notice a screen blanking for a few seconds when the
> > user tries to have the kicker clock settings changed? It's happening
> > here, and it's a little bit disconcerting. The screen does reappear in a
> > few seconds, but I don't see any reason for a blanking.
> 
> I get that here, on 9.1

Yep normal operation.  When you reset time especially this much it has
to re-sync X.  Though I don't have the details I do know that X is time
dependent.  Which is why it needs to re-sync. 

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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-11-01 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 02 Nov 2003 5:12 am, dfox wrote:
> Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem
>
> >Sounds like you may be missing one or more of these.
> >
> >locales-en-2.3.1.4-6mdk
> >locales-2.3.1.4-6mdk
>
> I have the locales rpms installed but I have a different problem, and it
> still isn't working quite right in 9.2. For whatever reason, the system
> eventually changes to a strange time zone - sometimes it is as much as 7
> hours off pst. When I start kde the clock is fine, but eventually
> (sometimes in a few hours) will change the time all by itself.

Sounds like ntp reseting the clock to the wrong timezone?

> And does anyone else notice a screen blanking for a few seconds when the
> user tries to have the kicker clock settings changed? It's happening
> here, and it's a little bit disconcerting. The screen does reappear in a
> few seconds, but I don't see any reason for a blanking.

I get that here, on 9.1

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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-31 Thread dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

>Sounds like you may be missing one or more of these.
>
>locales-en-2.3.1.4-6mdk
>locales-2.3.1.4-6mdk

I have the locales rpms installed but I have a different problem, and it 
still isn't working quite right in 9.2. For whatever reason, the system 
eventually changes to a strange time zone - sometimes it is as much as 7 
hours off pst. When I start kde the clock is fine, but eventually 
(sometimes in a few hours) will change the time all by itself.

And does anyone else notice a screen blanking for a few seconds when the 
user tries to have the kicker clock settings changed? It's happening 
here, and it's a little bit disconcerting. The screen does reappear in a 
few seconds, but I don't see any reason for a blanking.

>
>James

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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-25 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:23:22 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:

> On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 23:57, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:18:40 -0700
> > James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic
> > parchment:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:44, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > 
> > > > Now, I haven't mucked with locales, but I did upgrade KDE from
> > > > Texstar's rpms, and I see that I still have a few of Texstar's rpms
> > > > around.
> > > 
> > > Could be it.  I've but one tex rpm and that's for xmms skins. 
> > > (however I still which I had some of the features from his like randar
> > > support.)
> > 
> > Take a look at the PCLinuxOnline site.  It appears that someone else has
> > stepped up and is making 9.1 rpms while Texstar is gone.  Maybe he can
> > be encouraged to do 9.2?
> > 
> > Also, there is Chip Cuccio's rpms:
> > http://norlug.org/%7Echipster/index.pxml?rpms
> > 
> > He is building for 9.2 now. Not as prolific as Texstar, but very
> > similar.  I have his xmms and
> > sylpheed-claws.
> > 
> > Tim
> 
> Unfortunately from reading his site no where near as personable.  

I see him as all bark and no bite to scare off the lazy and the pests. I get
his updates newsletter, and it has a very friendly tone.  He is testing a
urpmi repository.  Have exchanged a couple e-mails and he is very helpful,
provided you have done your homework and you are really stuck, not just
asking him to do it for you.


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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-25 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 23:57, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:18:40 -0700
> James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:
> 
> > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:44, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> 
> > > Now, I haven't mucked with locales, but I did upgrade KDE from Texstar's
> > > rpms, and I see that I still have a few of Texstar's rpms around.
> > 
> > Could be it.  I've but one tex rpm and that's for xmms skins.  (however
> > I still which I had some of the features from his like randar support.)
> 
> Take a look at the PCLinuxOnline site.  It appears that someone else has
> stepped up and is making 9.1 rpms while Texstar is gone.  Maybe he can be
> encouraged to do 9.2?
> 
> Also, there is Chip Cuccio's rpms:
> http://norlug.org/%7Echipster/index.pxml?rpms
> 
> He is building for 9.2 now. Not as prolific as Texstar, but very similar.  I
> have his xmms and
> sylpheed-claws.
> 
> Tim

Unfortunately from reading his site no where near as personable.  

James

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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-25 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:18:40 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:

> On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:44, Rob Blomquist wrote:

> > Now, I haven't mucked with locales, but I did upgrade KDE from Texstar's
> > rpms, and I see that I still have a few of Texstar's rpms around.
> 
> Could be it.  I've but one tex rpm and that's for xmms skins.  (however
> I still which I had some of the features from his like randar support.)

Take a look at the PCLinuxOnline site.  It appears that someone else has
stepped up and is making 9.1 rpms while Texstar is gone.  Maybe he can be
encouraged to do 9.2?

Also, there is Chip Cuccio's rpms:
http://norlug.org/%7Echipster/index.pxml?rpms 

He is building for 9.2 now. Not as prolific as Texstar, but very similar.  I
have his xmms and
sylpheed-claws.

Tim


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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-24 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:44, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> On Friday 24 October 2003 15:43, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:03, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > On Thursday 23 October 2003 23:20, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:01, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > > > Are all Americans having this little problem? Or have I missed
> > > > > something? I "upgraded' from 9.1 to 9.2, and it left me with this.
> > > >
> > > > right click on the clock and chose "Date and Time Format"  in the first
> > > > tab(General) click on country-North America-United States of America.
> > > > Then click on the times and dates tab.  Click on the right side and
> > > > chose PH:MM:SS AMPM to get a 12 hour clock.  Click Apply and you should
> > > > be GTG (good to go)
> > >
> > > In that first tab, I have no countries listed.
> > >
> > > I am assuming that I am missing a file for North America. True? Or is
> > > something mucked up?
> > >
> > > Rob
> >
> > Sounds like you may be missing one or more of these.
> >
> > locales-en-2.3.1.4-6mdk
> > locales-2.3.1.4-6mdk
> 
> My system has 
> locales-2.3.2-5mdk
> locales-en-2.3.2-5mdk
> 
> Now, I haven't mucked with locales, but I did upgrade KDE from Texstar's rpms, 
> and I see that I still have a few of Texstar's rpms around.

Could be it.  I've but one tex rpm and that's for xmms skins.  (however
I still which I had some of the features from his like randar support.)

James

> 
> Rob


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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-24 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Friday 24 October 2003 15:43, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:03, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 October 2003 23:20, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:01, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > > Are all Americans having this little problem? Or have I missed
> > > > something? I "upgraded' from 9.1 to 9.2, and it left me with this.
> > >
> > > right click on the clock and chose "Date and Time Format"  in the first
> > > tab(General) click on country-North America-United States of America.
> > > Then click on the times and dates tab.  Click on the right side and
> > > chose PH:MM:SS AMPM to get a 12 hour clock.  Click Apply and you should
> > > be GTG (good to go)
> >
> > In that first tab, I have no countries listed.
> >
> > I am assuming that I am missing a file for North America. True? Or is
> > something mucked up?
> >
> > Rob
>
> Sounds like you may be missing one or more of these.
>
> locales-en-2.3.1.4-6mdk
> locales-2.3.1.4-6mdk

My system has 
locales-2.3.2-5mdk
locales-en-2.3.2-5mdk

Now, I haven't mucked with locales, but I did upgrade KDE from Texstar's rpms, 
and I see that I still have a few of Texstar's rpms around.

Rob
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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-24 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:03, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> On Thursday 23 October 2003 23:20, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:01, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > Are all Americans having this little problem? Or have I missed something?
> > > I "upgraded' from 9.1 to 9.2, and it left me with this.
> >
> > right click on the clock and chose "Date and Time Format"  in the first
> > tab(General) click on country-North America-United States of America.
> > Then click on the times and dates tab.  Click on the right side and
> > chose PH:MM:SS AMPM to get a 12 hour clock.  Click Apply and you should
> > be GTG (good to go)
> >
> 
> In that first tab, I have no countries listed.
> 
> I am assuming that I am missing a file for North America. True? Or is 
> something mucked up?
> 
> Rob

Sounds like you may be missing one or more of these.

locales-en-2.3.1.4-6mdk
locales-2.3.1.4-6mdk

James



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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-24 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Thursday 23 October 2003 23:20, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:01, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > Are all Americans having this little problem? Or have I missed something?
> > I "upgraded' from 9.1 to 9.2, and it left me with this.
>
> right click on the clock and chose "Date and Time Format"  in the first
> tab(General) click on country-North America-United States of America.
> Then click on the times and dates tab.  Click on the right side and
> chose PH:MM:SS AMPM to get a 12 hour clock.  Click Apply and you should
> be GTG (good to go)
>

In that first tab, I have no countries listed.

I am assuming that I am missing a file for North America. True? Or is 
something mucked up?

Rob

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Re: [expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:01, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> I cannot get the kicker digital clock to get off 24 hour time. I would like to 
> see it in 12 hour time. I think this is due to being force to use the English 
> GB Language format.
> 
> Are all Americans having this little problem? Or have I missed something? I 
> "upgraded' from 9.1 to 9.2, and it left me with this.
> 
> Rob


right click on the clock and chose "Date and Time Format"  in the first
tab(General) click on country-North America-United States of America. 
Then click on the times and dates tab.  Click on the right side and
chose PH:MM:SS AMPM to get a 12 hour clock.  Click Apply and you should
be GTG (good to go)

james



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[expert] 9.2: KDE Kicker Clock problem

2003-10-23 Thread Rob Blomquist
I cannot get the kicker digital clock to get off 24 hour time. I would like to 
see it in 12 hour time. I think this is due to being force to use the English 
GB Language format.

Are all Americans having this little problem? Or have I missed something? I 
"upgraded' from 9.1 to 9.2, and it left me with this.

Rob

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