Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-17 Thread Civileme

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Civileme,
> 
> Are you saying that:
> 

I do take responsibility for this and apologize.  I was writing a response then
saw yours.  I thought about adding the symbolic links to your post, and pasted
my draft to the reply and started to edit, then I was called away for a while.
 
When I returned, I looked at it and decided NOT to send anything.

And I thought I had hit the cancel, but a draft was saved and went out on the
next mail check.  Mea culpa.

 > alias block-major-11 ide-scsi > post-install
modprobe ide-scsi  [note the correct spelling of > post-install ] >  > in
/etc/conf.modules can effectively replace my suggested  > 
> modprobe ide-scsi
> modprobe sg
> 
> in /etc/rc.d/rc.local?
> 
> I suspect one still needs the lilo.conf append to indicate 
> which ide interface is to be treated as scsi emulation.
> 
> Then there arises the question of shifting the modprobes for all
> those ipchains masquerading filters to invoke from
> /etc/conf.modules.   How would that be done?
> 
> 
> Civileme wrote:
> > 
> > Ron Stodden wrote:
> 
> > > Assuming L-M 7.1 and the new burner is an ATAPI IDE device, as root
> > > you must set up hd?=ide-scsi in your lilo.conf stanza (then run lilo)
> > > as well as place
> > >
> > > modprobe ide-scsi
> > > modprobe sg
> > >
> > > at the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
> 
> > Well, it is more effective to do
> > supermount -i disable
> > rm -f /dev/cdrom
> > 
> > In /etc/conf.modules add the lines
> > 
> > alias block-major-11 ide-scsi
> > postinstall  modprobe ide-scsi
> > 
> > then back to the command line
> > 
> > ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom
> > 
> > If you use supermount--it is best to have another link to the
> > scsi_hostadapter in /etc/conf.modules.  THis allows one to be supermounted
> > while the "duplicate" remains unmounted and ready for the burners to detect.
> > 
> > Anyway, this will do what Ron suggested and make the burner device visible as
> > an ordinary CD drive as well..  But remember burners work on an unmounted
> > drive.  Mount to play, unmount to burn.




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-15 Thread Alan N.

Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
> 
> "Alan N." wrote:
> > However, I do have question for anyone here..
> >
> > I know that the CD rom is hdc..
> 
> Do you mean the CD burner ? (for CD rom reading you don't
> need SCSI emulation at all).
> 
> > Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi??
> 
> No, you need to say  hdc=ide-scsi
> You have to match the device where your CD burner is.
> 
> The hdd on the article was just an example.
> 
> --
> Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 74 Annemasse  France
> old Linux fan

I got it working.. Thanks..

I had to replace my cd-rom with the burner, instead of adding the
burner..
I would have liked to do this, but I have 2 HD's in the machine that
take hda and hdb.
I also have an internal zip that I don't want to part with for work
purposes..

Maybe when I get a bigger HD someday I can add my cd rom back for copy
purposes.

Thanks
Alan

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Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-15 Thread Ron Stodden

Civileme,

Are you saying that:

alias block-major-11 ide-scsi
post-install modprobe ide-scsi  [note the correct spelling of
post-install ]

in /etc/conf.modules can effectively replace my suggested 

modprobe ide-scsi
modprobe sg

in /etc/rc.d/rc.local?

I suspect one still needs the lilo.conf append to indicate 
which ide interface is to be treated as scsi emulation.

Then there arises the question of shifting the modprobes for all
those ipchains masquerading filters to invoke from
/etc/conf.modules.   How would that be done?


Civileme wrote:
> 
> Ron Stodden wrote:

> > Assuming L-M 7.1 and the new burner is an ATAPI IDE device, as root
> > you must set up hd?=ide-scsi in your lilo.conf stanza (then run lilo)
> > as well as place
> >
> > modprobe ide-scsi
> > modprobe sg
> >
> > at the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local.

> Well, it is more effective to do
> supermount -i disable
> rm -f /dev/cdrom
> 
> In /etc/conf.modules add the lines
> 
> alias block-major-11 ide-scsi
> postinstall  modprobe ide-scsi
> 
> then back to the command line
> 
> ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom
> 
> If you use supermount--it is best to have another link to the
> scsi_hostadapter in /etc/conf.modules.  THis allows one to be supermounted
> while the "duplicate" remains unmounted and ready for the burners to detect.
> 
> Anyway, this will do what Ron suggested and make the burner device visible as
> an ordinary CD drive as well..  But remember burners work on an unmounted
> drive.  Mount to play, unmount to burn.




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-15 Thread Alan N.

Civileme wrote:
> 
> Ron Stodden wrote:
> 
> > Alan,
> >
> > Assuming L-M 7.1 and the new burner is an ATAPI IDE device, as root
> > you must set up hd?=ide-scsi in your lilo.conf stanza (then run lilo)
> > as well as place
> >
> > modprobe ide-scsi
> > modprobe sg
> >
> > at the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
> >
> > After reboot from scratch, you can then access the cd-reader part as
> > /dev/sr0, and cdrecord -scanbus should find your cd-writer part.
> >
> 
> Well, it is more effective to do
> supermount -i disable
> rm -f /dev/cdrom
> 
> In /etc/conf.modules add the lines
> 
> alias block-major-11 ide-scsi
> postinstall  modprobe ide-scsi
> 
> then back to the command line
> 
> ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom
> 
> If you use supermount--it is best to have another link to the
> scsi_hostadapter in /etc/conf.modules.  THis allows one to be supermounted
> while the "duplicate" remains unmounted and ready for the burners to detect.
> 
> Anyway, this will do what Ron suggested and make the burner device visible as
> an ordinary CD drive as well..  But remember burners work on an unmounted
> drive.  Mount to play, unmount to burn.
> 


I appreciate everyones help.  I did get it to work last night late.

Thanks a bunch.. I'm gonna give it a workout tonite.

Alan




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-15 Thread John Aldrich

On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Hoyt wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help.
> > 
> > Hoyt
> > 
> 
> This is *EXACTLY* what I was looking for..! Thanks!
> 
> However, I do have question for anyone here..
> 
> I know that the CD rom is hdc..
> 
> This how-to says to add hdd=ide-scsi to lilo..
> 
> But, I allready HAVE a hdd, being an atapi zip on ide 2 which is shared
> with cd.
> 
> IDE 1 has 2 HD's.. Master ( 8 gig, win/beOS )
>  Slave ( 7 gig, linux )
> 
> IDE 2, Master ( CD ) , slave zip100.
> 
> Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi??
> 
Nope, you need to make it "hdC=ide-scsi" The "hdd" was just an
example.
John




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-15 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

"Alan N." wrote:
> However, I do have question for anyone here..
> 
> I know that the CD rom is hdc..

Do you mean the CD burner ? (for CD rom reading you don't 
need SCSI emulation at all).

> Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi??

No, you need to say  hdc=ide-scsi
You have to match the device where your CD burner is.

The hdd on the article was just an example.

-- 
Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-15 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger

"Alan N." wrote:
> 
> Hoyt wrote:
> >
> > Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help.
> >
> > Hoyt
> >
> 
> This is *EXACTLY* what I was looking for..! Thanks!
> 
> However, I do have question for anyone here..
> 
> I know that the CD rom is hdc..
> 
> This how-to says to add hdd=ide-scsi to lilo..
> 
> But, I allready HAVE a hdd, being an atapi zip on ide 2 which is shared
> with cd.
> 
> IDE 1 has 2 HD's.. Master ( 8 gig, win/beOS )
>Slave ( 7 gig, linux )
> 
> IDE 2, Master ( CD ) , slave zip100.
> 
> Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi??

Yes, of course, hdd was only an example.  It's hdc for me (I have no
actual CD-ROM, just the CD-R which I use a CD-ROM.  (It's a laptop, in
case you were wondering.)

> 
> Thanks.
> Alan
> 
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> BeOS 5.0.  No Windows involved
> -

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Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-15 Thread A V Flinsch

On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Hoyt wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help.
> > 
> > Hoyt
> > 
> 
> This is *EXACTLY* what I was looking for..! Thanks!
> 
> However, I do have question for anyone here..
> 
> I know that the CD rom is hdc..
> 
> This how-to says to add hdd=ide-scsi to lilo..
> 
> But, I allready HAVE a hdd, being an atapi zip on ide 2 which is shared
> with cd.
> 
> IDE 1 has 2 HD's.. Master ( 8 gig, win/beOS )
>  Slave ( 7 gig, linux )
> 
> IDE 2, Master ( CD ) , slave zip100.
> 
> Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi??
Nope, you need to make it hdc=ide-scsi

IDE 1 - Master = hda
IDE 1 - Slave   = hdb
IDE 2 - Master = hdc
IDE 2 - Slavve = hdd
IDE 3 - Master = hde

(I think you get the idea by now)

> 
> Thanks.
> Alan
> 
> 
> -- 
> -
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> BeOS 5.0.  No Windows involved
> -
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(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-14 Thread Hoyt

No, you substitute the real location for what is shown in the example.

BTW, I have heard (but not investigated) that using this technique on an IDE
CD-ROM will improve transfer speeds.

Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: "Alan N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..


> Hoyt wrote:
> >
> > Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help.
> >
> > Hoyt
> >
>
> This is *EXACTLY* what I was looking for..! Thanks!
>
> However, I do have question for anyone here..
>
> I know that the CD rom is hdc..
>
> This how-to says to add hdd=ide-scsi to lilo..
>
> But, I allready HAVE a hdd, being an atapi zip on ide 2 which is shared
> with cd.
>
> IDE 1 has 2 HD's.. Master ( 8 gig, win/beOS )
>Slave ( 7 gig, linux )
>
> IDE 2, Master ( CD ) , slave zip100.
>
> Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi??
>
> Thanks.
> Alan
>
>
> --
> --
---
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Running RedHat Linux 6.2 and/or
> BeOS 5.0.  No Windows involved
> --
---
>





Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-13 Thread Civileme

Ron Stodden wrote:

> Alan,
>
> Assuming L-M 7.1 and the new burner is an ATAPI IDE device, as root
> you must set up hd?=ide-scsi in your lilo.conf stanza (then run lilo)
> as well as place
>
> modprobe ide-scsi
> modprobe sg
>
> at the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
>
> After reboot from scratch, you can then access the cd-reader part as
> /dev/sr0, and cdrecord -scanbus should find your cd-writer part.
>

Well, it is more effective to do
supermount -i disable
rm -f /dev/cdrom

In /etc/conf.modules add the lines

alias block-major-11 ide-scsi
postinstall  modprobe ide-scsi

then back to the command line

ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom

If you use supermount--it is best to have another link to the
scsi_hostadapter in /etc/conf.modules.  THis allows one to be supermounted
while the "duplicate" remains unmounted and ready for the burners to detect.

Anyway, this will do what Ron suggested and make the burner device visible as
an ordinary CD drive as well..  But remember burners work on an unmounted
drive.  Mount to play, unmount to burn.

Civileme


>
> "Alan N." wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to
> > install a CD burner on a working system??
> >
> > I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs
> > and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to
> > ADD a cd burner to a working system.  The old CD-ROM has been replaced
> > with the CD R/RW/ROM.  I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find
> > it. Obiously, I did something wrong..  Any advice is welcome.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-12 Thread Alan N.

Hoyt wrote:
> 
> Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help.
> 
> Hoyt
> 

This is *EXACTLY* what I was looking for..! Thanks!

However, I do have question for anyone here..

I know that the CD rom is hdc..

This how-to says to add hdd=ide-scsi to lilo..

But, I allready HAVE a hdd, being an atapi zip on ide 2 which is shared
with cd.

IDE 1 has 2 HD's.. Master ( 8 gig, win/beOS )
   Slave ( 7 gig, linux )

IDE 2, Master ( CD ) , slave zip100.

Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi??

Thanks.
Alan


-- 
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Running RedHat Linux 6.2 and/or 
BeOS 5.0.  No Windows involved
-




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-11 Thread Ron Stodden

Alan,

Assuming L-M 7.1 and the new burner is an ATAPI IDE device, as root
you must set up hd?=ide-scsi in your lilo.conf stanza (then run lilo)
as well as place 

modprobe ide-scsi
modprobe sg

at the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local.

After reboot from scratch, you can then access the cd-reader part as
/dev/sr0, and cdrecord -scanbus should find your cd-writer part.

"Alan N." wrote:
> 
> Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to
> install a CD burner on a working system??
> 
> I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs
> and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to
> ADD a cd burner to a working system.  The old CD-ROM has been replaced
> with the CD R/RW/ROM.  I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find
> it. Obiously, I did something wrong..  Any advice is welcome.

-- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-10 Thread Sarang Lakare

Mandrake's web-site has a great tutorial on getting u're IDE CD to run
under 7.0.. follow that and things will be fine. (u need to set u're IDE cd
as a SCSI).

For buring, I find gtoaster and kisocd really good! kisocd is really good
to make quick copies and CDs.. use gtoaster for music CDs. I wish they make
better GUIs though! A newbie can't easily burn a CD in linux :(

-sarang




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-10 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to
> install a CD burner on a working system??
> 
> I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs
> and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to
> ADD a cd burner to a working system.  The old CD-ROM has been replaced
> with the CD R/RW/ROM.  I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find
> it. Obiously, I did something wrong..  Any advice is welcome.
> 
> Alan

Not sure Alan, but it sounds like you're in a situation similar
to the one I found myself in a month or so ago.  I had 7.1
installed, it picked up my Ricoh 7040 and had it fully functional,
along with a BCD CDrom as master on the second IDE.  BUT then the
Ricoh died a little later. Sent it back and gotta Plex 8432. 
Problem I faced, was the Ricoh would only install as slave, when I
got the Plex I made it master (2nd IDE, the BCD 40x CDrom is still
on this IDE, but as slave).

   Anyway, to make a long story short, after fsck'in around tryin
to delete/re-create the links to 'cdrom' and 'cdrom2', I just stuck
the 7.1 install CD back in, booted from it, chose upgrade, and let
it fix all that @#$!^ stuff.  Sure'nuff, on the fresh reboot, I now
have a fully functional Plex as master, BCD as slave.  Masha danki
Mandrake !!

   Hardware recognition and setup works in spite of this user ;>
   BTW, the 'upgrade' only took a few minutes ;)

   Question: I d/l mp3's with Linux, convert and burn them to audio
CD's with Windoze (Nero), and they play as such (.cda's) in every
damn piece of junk CD player I can find.  Including the 6 year old
junk Sony in my pic'up, and my grandaughter's Fisher Price toy! They
play in my BCD CDrom or the Plex CD-RW in Winblows, but not in the
same hardware in Linux,  how come??  I use high quality TaiyoyUden
blanks.
-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-09 Thread Hoyt

Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help.

Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: "Alan N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 2:10 PM
Subject: [expert] CD burner Howto..


> Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to
> install a CD burner on a working system??
>
> I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs
> and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to
> ADD a cd burner to a working system.  The old CD-ROM has been replaced
> with the CD R/RW/ROM.  I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find
> it. Obiously, I did something wrong..  Any advice is welcome.
>
> Alan
>
>





Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-09 Thread Civileme


-Original Message-
From: Alan N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 11:22 AM
Subject: [expert] CD burner Howto..


>Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a
HOW-TO to
>install a CD burner on a working system??
>
>I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd
using mkiofs
>and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to
>ADD a cd burner to a working system.  The old CD-ROM has been
replaced
>with the CD R/RW/ROM.  I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record
can't find
>it. Obiously, I did something wrong..  Any advice is welcome.
>
>Alan
>

Ummm--no you did nothing wrong--just incomplete.  I don' know
how much help kudzu was in setting up configuration, but hen
it mainly makes hardware drivers talk to the device and the
system.

What version, what distro, and what does dmesg say?

Also

cat /etc/conf.modules
lspcidrake
cat /etc/fstab
cat /etc/mtab
cat /proc/modules
ls -l /dev/cdrom

are all needed o make sure the config is correct.  Let's do
this once.  The type of HOWTO you speak of may arise out of
our exchange, and if so, you can be the author when it goes to
linuxdoc.org

Civileme





Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-09 Thread Jay Summet

I followed the instructions at:

http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/CD-Writing-2.html
for setup, and it worked just fine. (replaced IDE cd-rom with IDE cd-writer)

Jay Summet

On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to
> install a CD burner on a working system??
> 
> I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs
> and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to
> ADD a cd burner to a working system.  The old CD-ROM has been replaced
> with the CD R/RW/ROM.  I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find
> it. Obiously, I did something wrong..  Any advice is welcome.
> 
> Alan
-- 




[expert] CD burner Howto..

2000-07-09 Thread Alan N.

Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to
install a CD burner on a working system??

I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs
and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to
ADD a cd burner to a working system.  The old CD-ROM has been replaced
with the CD R/RW/ROM.  I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find
it. Obiously, I did something wrong..  Any advice is welcome.

Alan