Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
really, no matter what slot the nic is in and was the vid AGP or PCI and what slot was it in? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 20:25, you wrote: Just the one drive on tha first channel, CD ZIP on second channel. I think I just have a flaky MoBo, even the new one won't run 98SE with the NIC and the Matrox vid without locking up. Take either one out and it's fine in winderz. Runs much better in mdk8.1 I'm testing 8.2 right now using an 18Gb Samsung, an ATI all in wonder AGP 8Mb vid and 3Com NIC, so far, so good. On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:32 am, you wrote: when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more than one drive on each IDE channel? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
I'll have to admit to having a temper tantrum about that time and didn't do a total and complete swap out. Winderz always get's me ire up G. On Wednesday 20 March 2002 05:29 am, you wrote: really, no matter what slot the nic is in and was the vid AGP or PCI and what slot was it in? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 20:25, you wrote: Just the one drive on tha first channel, CD ZIP on second channel. I think I just have a flaky MoBo, even the new one won't run 98SE with the NIC and the Matrox vid without locking up. Take either one out and it's fine in winderz. Runs much better in mdk8.1 I'm testing 8.2 right now using an 18Gb Samsung, an ATI all in wonder AGP 8Mb vid and 3Com NIC, so far, so good. On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:32 am, you wrote: when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more than one drive on each IDE channel? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 04:43, you wrote: Yes I agree with Ed , western Digital Hard Disks have problem Sharing IDE CABLE , this question may destroy your disks. Got another go figure with a Western Digitalis . On one box, I have to set the drive as Master, on another, the *same* drive has to be set to Cable Select, or else it won't boot. Other HD's on these same boxen do *not* have this issue. And then, just to top things, the up-till-now solid-as-a-rock IBM drives are now flaky (the new 40-60 gig) ,.. damn!! -- john in sydney = Mandrake Linux 8.2 Kernel version: 2.4.17-5mdk Uptime: 1 hour 47 minutes = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Thanks a LOT to all your inputs, and especially Brian Parish. I located the problem with the memtest-x86.bin (on MDK CD1 /images/ directory): Faulty memory Again thanks a lot for your quick answers! Karine -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more than one drive on each IDE channel? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Just the one drive on tha first channel, CD ZIP on second channel. I think I just have a flaky MoBo, even the new one won't run 98SE with the NIC and the Matrox vid without locking up. Take either one out and it's fine in winderz. Runs much better in mdk8.1 I'm testing 8.2 right now using an 18Gb Samsung, an ATI all in wonder AGP 8Mb vid and 3Com NIC, so far, so good. On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:32 am, you wrote: when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more than one drive on each IDE channel? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. (I need to remark, that I couldn't install MDK by default (failure in uploading into or reading the memory, but I had to simulate having only 64MB RAM instead of 512MB) (My Hardware: Intel Pentium III 733MHz ASUS P2BF 512MB SDRAM Graphic Card: ATI Rage 128 - 32MB TVout SCSI adapter: AHA-2940 U2W Pioneer DVD-ROM (ATAPI DVD-106s) 16x CDRW Yamaha CRW8824s (SCSI) Sound Card: Creative Live HD config: hda: (7500rpm UDMA66) hda12.4GB vfat (c:\) hda53GB ext2 (/mnt/old-home) hda6256MB swap hda74GB ext3 (/mnt/old-root) hda87GB vfat hdb: (7500rpm 40GB) hdb120GBvfat hdb54GB ext3 (/) hdb6512MB swap hdb715GBext3 (/home) ) Where is the problem? Hardware conflict? Hardware damaged? Configuration? I dearly hope someone can help me here. Please tell me if you need some more information. In Kindneass Karine -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
hi karine, i've seen similar things on our hardware. most of the time the problem was bios-related stuff (bios in general, dma-settings, prefetch-modes, ...) and almost everytime the problems went away by either disabling dma (ouch, that hurts, i know) using hdparm or by upgrading buggy bioses. did you ever check /var/log/messages to see, if the kernel reports some problems with your harddrives? udo Am Mon, 2002-03-18 um 11.36 schrieb Karine ZUERCHER: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. (I need to remark, that I couldn't install MDK by default (failure in uploading into or reading the memory, but I had to simulate having only 64MB RAM instead of 512MB) (My Hardware: Intel Pentium III 733MHz ASUS P2BF 512MB SDRAM Graphic Card: ATI Rage 128 - 32MB TVout SCSI adapter: AHA-2940 U2W Pioneer DVD-ROM (ATAPI DVD-106s) 16x CDRW Yamaha CRW8824s (SCSI) Sound Card: Creative Live HD config: hda: (7500rpm UDMA66) hda1 2.4GB vfat (c:\) hda5 3GB ext2 (/mnt/old-home) hda6 256MB swap hda7 4GB ext3 (/mnt/old-root) hda8 7GB vfat hdb: (7500rpm 40GB) hdb1 20GBvfat hdb5 4GB ext3 (/) hdb6 512MB swap hdb7 15GBext3 (/home) ) Where is the problem? Hardware conflict? Hardware damaged? Configuration? I dearly hope someone can help me here. Please tell me if you need some more information. In Kindneass Karine -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Karine, I think you have diagnosed it youself. Sounds like flaky memory. I would be running a memory checker very intensively before installing again. There was a thread on these a few days ago, either here or on newbie. Check the archives with keywords like memory check and you should find it quickly. I think it was Tom Brinkman who suggested a tool which actually stress tests the processor as well as memory. Sounds like the right thing to use here. HTH Brian On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 21:36, Karine ZUERCHER wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. (I need to remark, that I couldn't install MDK by default (failure in uploading into or reading the memory, but I had to simulate having only 64MB RAM instead of 512MB) (My Hardware: Intel Pentium III 733MHz ASUS P2BF 512MB SDRAM Graphic Card: ATI Rage 128 - 32MB TVout SCSI adapter: AHA-2940 U2W Pioneer DVD-ROM (ATAPI DVD-106s) 16x CDRW Yamaha CRW8824s (SCSI) Sound Card: Creative Live HD config: hda: (7500rpm UDMA66) hda1 2.4GB vfat (c:\) hda5 3GB ext2 (/mnt/old-home) hda6 256MB swap hda7 4GB ext3 (/mnt/old-root) hda8 7GB vfat hdb: (7500rpm 40GB) hdb1 20GBvfat hdb5 4GB ext3 (/) hdb6 512MB swap hdb7 15GBext3 (/home) ) Where is the problem? Hardware conflict? Hardware damaged? Configuration? I dearly hope someone can help me here. Please tell me if you need some more information. In Kindneass Karine -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Karine, Haven't seen my reply on the list yet, but since sending it I have checked the archive and the advice from Tom can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg91074.html In case the original reply never makes it, what I said was: I think you have diagnosed it youself. Sounds like flaky memory. I would be running a memory checker very intensively before installing again. There was a thread on these a few days ago, either here or on newbie. Check the archives with keywords like memory check and you should find it quickly. I think it was Tom Brinkman who suggested a tool which actually stress tests the processor as well as memory. Sounds like the right thing to use here. HTH Brian On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 21:36, Karine ZUERCHER wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. (I need to remark, that I couldn't install MDK by default (failure in uploading into or reading the memory, but I had to simulate having only 64MB RAM instead of 512MB) (My Hardware: Intel Pentium III 733MHz ASUS P2BF 512MB SDRAM Graphic Card: ATI Rage 128 - 32MB TVout SCSI adapter: AHA-2940 U2W Pioneer DVD-ROM (ATAPI DVD-106s) 16x CDRW Yamaha CRW8824s (SCSI) Sound Card: Creative Live HD config: hda: (7500rpm UDMA66) hda1 2.4GB vfat (c:\) hda5 3GB ext2 (/mnt/old-home) hda6 256MB swap hda7 4GB ext3 (/mnt/old-root) hda8 7GB vfat hdb: (7500rpm 40GB) hdb1 20GBvfat hdb5 4GB ext3 (/) hdb6 512MB swap hdb7 15GBext3 (/home) ) Where is the problem? Hardware conflict? Hardware damaged? Configuration? I dearly hope someone can help me here. Please tell me if you need some more information. In Kindneass Karine -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. (I need to remark, that I couldn't install MDK by default (failure in uploading into or reading the memory, but I had to simulate having only 64MB RAM instead of 512MB) (My Hardware: Intel Pentium III 733MHz ASUS P2BF 512MB SDRAM Graphic Card: ATI Rage 128 - 32MB TVout SCSI adapter: AHA-2940 U2W Pioneer DVD-ROM (ATAPI DVD-106s) 16x CDRW Yamaha CRW8824s (SCSI) Sound Card: Creative Live HD config: hda: (7500rpm UDMA66) hda1 2.4GB vfat (c:\) hda5 3GB ext2 (/mnt/old-home) hda6 256MB swap hda7 4GB ext3 (/mnt/old-root) hda8 7GB vfat hdb: (7500rpm 40GB) hdb1 20GBvfat hdb5 4GB ext3 (/) hdb6 512MB swap hdb7 15GBext3 (/home) ) Where is the problem? Hardware conflict? Hardware damaged? Configuration? I dearly hope someone can help me here. Please tell me if you need some more information. In Kindneass Karine -- I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
are these both western digital hard drives? have you considered putting each drive on it's own ide channel? On Monday 18 March 2002 05:56, you wrote: hi karine, i've seen similar things on our hardware. most of the time the problem was bios-related stuff (bios in general, dma-settings, prefetch-modes, ...) and almost everytime the problems went away by either disabling dma (ouch, that hurts, i know) using hdparm or by upgrading buggy bioses. did you ever check /var/log/messages to see, if the kernel reports some problems with your harddrives? udo Am Mon, 2002-03-18 um 11.36 schrieb Karine ZUERCHER: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. (I need to remark, that I couldn't install MDK by default (failure in uploading into or reading the memory, but I had to simulate having only 64MB RAM instead of 512MB) (My Hardware: Intel Pentium III 733MHz ASUS P2BF 512MB SDRAM Graphic Card: ATI Rage 128 - 32MB TVout SCSI adapter: AHA-2940 U2W Pioneer DVD-ROM (ATAPI DVD-106s) 16x CDRW Yamaha CRW8824s (SCSI) Sound Card: Creative Live HD config: hda: (7500rpm UDMA66) hda12.4GB vfat (c:\) hda53GB ext2 (/mnt/old-home) hda6256MB swap hda74GB ext3 (/mnt/old-root) hda87GB vfat hdb: (7500rpm 40GB) hdb120GBvfat hdb54GB ext3 (/) hdb6512MB swap hdb715GBext3 (/home) ) Where is the problem? Hardware conflict? Hardware damaged? Configuration? I dearly hope someone can help me here. Please tell me if you need some more information. In Kindneass Karine -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
