Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
etharp wrote: Ok, just so I am not out -a$$holed here... (I _do_ intend to be the big hole here)grin what does _LUCK_ have to do with it, and why should I have to see see the other post, heck what other post, I see a BUNCH of other posts. My Wife wants (demands) for me to put in here that NOBODY ELSE better be breaking MY balls, that is HER job, and hers alone! Damn-it! I think it is almost worth noting that I never miss the point. I carry the point on my head. I am a pointy head. etharp, Your sense of humor is not only commendable but much appreciated. What started out as a simple request somehow turned into a pissing contest with certain people (thanks do go out to Bruce, who saw what I needed and gave me a very nice and short response). I run a re-compiled 2.2.19 kernel version on LMDK7.2 with ext2 file system. I certainly know what my man page says about chattr and lsattr. I thought the purpose of this list was to see what other mandrake uses had to say about their peculiar setups. I was only hoping to find out what the ReiserFS implementation, on the very latest 2.4 version of the kernel, was capable of doing about file attributes. As I posted in my very first post, I need this utility. Unfortunately some people feel the need to make their self look good at other people's expense. This does not come as a shock to me. Maybe I just expected more from this list. My mistake, and, for me, this thread is DEAD! -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
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On Wednesday 08 August 2001 16:16, J. C. Woods wrote: Unfortunately some people feel the need to make their self look good at other people's expense. This does not come as a shock to me. Maybe I just expected more from this list. My mistake, and, for me, this thread is DEAD! Sorry to resurrect this. But, if what you say is true then I apologise. I was under the impression that you were doing that same thing and that is what I took offense to. There is, indeed, enough of my xyz is better than yours, and I was rather tired of it. If something works for your, or if it has a feature that you need, you should use it. If other priorities are more important (i.e. people sharing the computer who feel the power switch is the answer to every problem) then so be it. mg
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
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Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 03.13 07/08/01, J. C. Woods wrote: The chmod command is used to change file permissions or make a file executeable, or !executeable. Which is the difference? Olaf Olaf, Do you mean what is the difference? executeable= a file that is executeable, i.e. you can execute it (usually a binary file but it can be a shell script). !executeable= a file that is NOT executeable, i.e. you can NOT execute it. (In UNIX, and in particular when we do any kind of scripting, the ! symbolizes a statement of negation. Therefore it means not Hope this clarification makes sense to you... drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
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At 21.15 07/08/01, J. C. Woods wrote: Olaf, Do you mean what is the difference? executeable= a file that is executeable, i.e. you can execute it (usually a binary file but it can be a shell script). !executeable= a file that is NOT executeable, i.e. you can NOT execute it. (In UNIX, and in particular when we do any kind of scripting, the ! symbolizes a statement of negation. Therefore it means not Hope this clarification makes sense to you... drjung Thank you for both suggestions. Olaf Configuration: Celeron 333A, 128 MB, 6+3 GB HD, SoundBlaster 128 PCI, Realtek Ethernet, i740 video card running at 1024@16bpp, Toshiba CD and LG 8080B CD-RW hda1: win 98, hda5 Linux ReiserFS, hda6 swap, hda7 ReiserFS (/home); hdb1: FAT32 with datas
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
On Monday 06 August 2001 21:13, J. C. Woods wrote: Dave, Just so as to obviate any confusion about this issue. The chmod command is used to change file permissions or make a file executeable, or !executeable. This is usually done by entering the chmod command and an octal number as a switch giving us the desired file permissions based on our umask. File attributes are a bit different: we use a chattr command with the desired switch to add a extra level of security to files or directories. Try a man on chattr, and I think this will be a bit clearer to you. We can also do a lsattr command to least file attributes. As a matter of fact, you could go to a file, any file, created on your ReiserFS, and run the command lsattr on that file, and let me know what you see. Thanks for your help, drjung So what you are saying is you know the answer to your question, but are just busting evertbody elses balls.
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
On Tuesday 07 August 2001 21:44, J. C. Woods wrote: mike wrote: So what you are saying is you know the answer to your question, but are just busting evertbody elses balls. Mike, Unlike your need to be hasty, and rude as well, I will attribute your lack of understanding to be due to the fact that you came into the thread too late. Therefore you have missed the whole point. better luck next time, drjung No, I have read the whole thread, I got the point. Luck has never done me any good. The man page (see other post) is quite clear as to the availabilty of the utility; RTFMing is a popular passtime, and all that, so... mg
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
I am running ReiserFS on my main SCSI HDD (using a IDE partition for boot, ReisterFS as well). Even with a dirty shutdown, it bounces right back, only my wintendo FAT32 has problems after a power outage. Never had to do a fsck or anything, just comes right up. BR Bruce On Monday 06 August 2001 04:17 pm, you wrote: Quoting John W ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I am about 99% sure that ext2 cannot be converted to reiserFS. I am sure if I am wrong someone will correct me and offer the help you need. ReiserFS can not be converted from ext2, you have to backup your data and reformat the drive... From what I have seen ReiserFS seems very stable, much more than any of the other journaling filesystems I've tried... I haven't looked at ext3 lately but the last time I tried it, it wasn't ready for prime time yet. Julia Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; charset=us-ascii; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: ---
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I'd have to agree there. Reiser works great. After a hard lockup or power failure you get a reading journal entries message for about two seconds then up the system comes. It's good stuff. I would highly recommend it over ext2 for sure. -dave - Original Message - From: Bruce E.Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ? I am running ReiserFS on my main SCSI HDD (using a IDE partition for boot, ReisterFS as well). Even with a dirty shutdown, it bounces right back, only my wintendo FAT32 has problems after a power outage. Never had to do a fsck or anything, just comes right up. BR Bruce On Monday 06 August 2001 04:17 pm, you wrote: Quoting John W ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I am about 99% sure that ext2 cannot be converted to reiserFS. I am sure if I am wrong someone will correct me and offer the help you need. ReiserFS can not be converted from ext2, you have to backup your data and reformat the drive... From what I have seen ReiserFS seems very stable, much more than any of the other journaling filesystems I've tried... I haven't looked at ext3 lately but the last time I tried it, it wasn't ready for prime time yet. Julia Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; charset=us-ascii; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: ---
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--- Julia A. Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting John W ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I am about 99% sure that ext2 cannot be converted to reiserFS. I am sure if I am wrong someone will correct me and offer the help you need. ReiserFS can not be converted from ext2, you have to backup your data and reformat the drive... From what I have seen ReiserFS seems very stable, much more than any of the other journaling filesystems I've tried... I You should probably have not thought like that if you spent some time to read the kernel mailing list :-) haven't looked at ext3 lately but the last time I tried it, it wasn't ready for prime time yet. So why not try it now? Julia -- [ Julia Anne Case ] [Ships are safe inside the harbor, ] [Programmer at large] [ but is that what ships are really for.] [ Admining Linux ] [ To thine own self be true. ] [ Windows/WindowsNT ] [ Fair is where you take your cows to be judged. ] ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!
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David Koenig wrote: I'd have to agree there. Reiser works great. After a hard lockup or power failure you get a reading journal entries message for about two seconds then up the system comes. It's good stuff. I would highly recommend it over ext2 for sure. -dave OK, a fast question for all you ReiserFS enthusiast: does it yet support file attributes? I need em, and I use em! The last version of ReiserFS I used to format a mount pt gave me Inappropriate ioctl for device warning msgs when trying to take care of business. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
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If you're talking standard chmod style file attribs, then it most certainly does. -dave - Original Message - From: J. C. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ? David Koenig wrote: I'd have to agree there. Reiser works great. After a hard lockup or power failure you get a reading journal entries message for about two seconds then up the system comes. It's good stuff. I would highly recommend it over ext2 for sure. -dave OK, a fast question for all you ReiserFS enthusiast: does it yet support file attributes? I need em, and I use em! The last version of ReiserFS I used to format a mount pt gave me Inappropriate ioctl for device warning msgs when trying to take care of business. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
I've been running ReiserFS eversince mandrake 7.2 first came out, and I have to say taht I've had no problems. After a dirty shutdown or a power failure, everything swings back up with no worries. I haven't seen any data corruption or loss of data. Currently I run it on 3 4.3 GB SCSI drives, 1 18 GB SCSI drive, and 1 20 GB IDE drive, no worries on any of them. This filesystem is fantastic. Cheers I'd have to agree there. Reiser works great. After a hard lockup or power failure you get a reading journal entries message for about two seconds then up the system comes. It's good stuff. I would highly recommend it over ext2 for sure. -dave - Original Message - From: Bruce E.Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ? I am running ReiserFS on my main SCSI HDD (using a IDE partition for boot, ReisterFS as well). Even with a dirty shutdown, it bounces right back, only my wintendo FAT32 has problems after a power outage. Never had to do a fsck or anything, just comes right up. BR Bruce On Monday 06 August 2001 04:17 pm, you wrote: Quoting John W ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I am about 99% sure that ext2 cannot be converted to reiserFS. I am sure if I am wrong someone will correct me and offer the help you need. ReiserFS can not be converted from ext2, you have to backup your data and reformat the drive... From what I have seen ReiserFS seems very stable, much more than any of the other journaling filesystems I've tried... I haven't looked at ext3 lately but the last time I tried it, it wasn't ready for prime time yet. Julia Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; charset=us-ascii; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: --- Current Linux kernel 2.4.3-20mdk uptime: 2 days 2 hours 53 minutes.
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
Dave, Just so as to obviate any confusion about this issue. The chmod command is used to change file permissions or make a file executeable, or !executeable. This is usually done by entering the chmod command and an octal number as a switch giving us the desired file permissions based on our umask. File attributes are a bit different: we use a chattr command with the desired switch to add a extra level of security to files or directories. Try a man on chattr, and I think this will be a bit clearer to you. We can also do a lsattr command to least file attributes. As a matter of fact, you could go to a file, any file, created on your ReiserFS, and run the command lsattr on that file, and let me know what you see. Thanks for your help, drjung David Koenig wrote: If you're talking standard chmod style file attribs, then it most certainly does. -dave - Original Message - From: J. C. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ? OK, a fast question for all you ReiserFS enthusiast: does it yet support file attributes? I need em, and I use em! The last version of ReiserFS I used to format a mount pt gave me Inappropriate ioctl for device warning msgs when trying to take care of business. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
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drjung, I did lsattr on my ReiserFS and got the following msg: lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on fw4_01.pdf So I would gather, ReiserFS does not do what you want. Best Regards, Bruce On Monday 06 August 2001 09:13 pm, J. C. Woods wrote: Dave, Just so as to obviate any confusion about this issue. The chmod command is used to change file permissions or make a file executeable, or !executeable. This is usually done by entering the chmod command and an octal number as a switch giving us the desired file permissions based on our umask. File attributes are a bit different: we use a chattr command with the desired switch to add a extra level of security to files or directories. Try a man on chattr, and I think this will be a bit clearer to you. We can also do a lsattr command to least file attributes. As a matter of fact, you could go to a file, any file, created on your ReiserFS, and run the command lsattr on that file, and let me know what you see. Thanks for your help, drjung David Koenig wrote: If you're talking standard chmod style file attribs, then it most certainly does. -dave - Original Message - From: J. C. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ? OK, a fast question for all you ReiserFS enthusiast: does it yet support file attributes? I need em, and I use em! The last version of ReiserFS I used to format a mount pt gave me Inappropriate ioctl for device warning msgs when trying to take care of business. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
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Thanks Bruce, As I suspected, file attributes are still only supported by ext2 file systems. I would suppose that, like the other UNIX JFS, it will only be a matter of time until ReiserFS supports this _very_ important function too. Thanks for the help, drjung Bruce E. Harris wrote: drjung, I did lsattr on my ReiserFS and got the following msg: lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on fw4_01.pdf So I would gather, ReiserFS does not do what you want. Best Regards, Bruce On Monday 06 August 2001 09:13 pm, J. C. Woods wrote: Dave, Just so as to obviate any confusion about this issue. The chmod command is used to change file permissions or make a file executeable, or !executeable. This is usually done by entering the chmod command and an octal number as a switch giving us the desired file permissions based on our umask. File attributes are a bit different: we use a chattr command with the desired switch to add a extra level of security to files or directories. Try a man on chattr, and I think this will be a bit clearer to you. We can also do a lsattr command to least file attributes. As a matter of fact, you could go to a file, any file, created on your ReiserFS, and run the command lsattr on that file, and let me know what you see. Thanks for your help, drjung David Koenig wrote: If you're talking standard chmod style file attribs, then it most certainly does. -dave - Original Message - From: J. C. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ? OK, a fast question for all you ReiserFS enthusiast: does it yet support file attributes? I need em, and I use em! The last version of ReiserFS I used to format a mount pt gave me Inappropriate ioctl for device warning msgs when trying to take care of business. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Sevatio wrote: I'm considering a switch from Ext2 to ReiserFS or anything better than Ext2. Currently I'm LM8.0. What's your opinion on the stability of the Reiser File System? Is there an improvement for Ext2 on the horizon? What software would be best at converting the Ext2 partitions to ReiserFS? TIA, Sevatio Use ext3 - you can convert ext2 - ext3 without any pain. ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars Lars Roland Kristiansen | Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stud. Scient. Mathematics | TLF(home):39699914 - 116 Copenhagen University - | Home address: Bispebjerg parkalle Institute for Mathematical Sciences | 22 - 2400 københavn NV - room 116. Url: www.math.ku.dk | Politics is for the moment, equations are forever - Albert Einstein
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--- Lars Roland Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Sevatio wrote: I'm considering a switch from Ext2 to ReiserFS or anything better than Ext2. Currently I'm LM8.0. What's your opinion on the stability of the Reiser File System? Is there an improvement for Ext2 on the horizon? Have a look at this page and decide by yourself http://aurora.zemris.fer.hr/filesystems/small.html What software would be best at converting the Ext2 partitions to ReiserFS? TIA, Sevatio Use ext3 - you can convert ext2 - ext3 without any pain. ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars Lars Roland Kristiansen | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stud. Scient. Mathematics | TLF(home): 39699914 - 116 Copenhagen University - | Home address: Bispebjerg parkalle Institute for Mathematical Sciences | 22 - 2400 københavn NV - room 116. Url: www.math.ku.dk | Politics is for the moment, equations are forever - Albert Einstein = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
On Saturday 04 August 2001 23:13, you wrote: On Saturday 04 August 2001 23:06, you wrote: I'm considering a switch from Ext2 to ReiserFS or anything better than Ext2. Currently I'm LM8.0. What's your opinion on the stability of the Reiser File System? Is there an improvement for Ext2 on the horizon? What software would be best at converting the Ext2 partitions to ReiserFS? TIA, Sevatio I am about 99% sure that ext2 cannot be converted to reiserFS. I am sure if I am wrong someone will correct me and offer the help you need. Regards, John
[expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
I'm considering a switch from Ext2 to ReiserFS or anything better than Ext2. Currently I'm LM8.0. What's your opinion on the stability of the Reiser File System? Is there an improvement for Ext2 on the horizon? What software would be best at converting the Ext2 partitions to ReiserFS? TIA, Sevatio
