Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-06 Thread John Wolford

The other day i was happy to be moved from one @home backbone to another, much
faster one. As a result, my ip changed. Happily, none of my scripts (firewall,
etc) are statically set up ip-wise, and so everything adjusted perfectly. Of
course i'm using dhcp to obtain my ip, and that kept working too.

If DHCP was working before @home changed ips on you, then it would work after
also. Its functionality is absolutely not dependant on what ip it gets. It is
therefore a given that whatever you changed in the configuration is the root of
your problem (not that it's your fault, neccessarily, who knows, maybe some
config utility didn't work properly). Go back and check everything over with a
fine-tooth comb. And while you're at it, ask yourself why you had to change so
much due to simple ip-change (which is itself automatic).

In case it helps, i'll give you the shell code that grabs my current ip,
whatever it is, and puts it in a variable which i can then reference throughout
the script:
eth0ip=`/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | awk '/addr:(.+)[:space:]/{print $2}' | sed
's/addr://'`

There may well be a cleaner way of getting it. To be honest, i came up with
that code quite awhile ago, and it was a real struggle - so there almost
certainly is a cleaner, simpler way of getting it, but i just haven't had time
to do it :-)

By the way, doing ifconfig shows that your network card is not up, right? If
it doesn't hang on the dhcp request, then that shows that the card is not being
brought up properly - but it was before, right? So it's supported in your
kernel, and the only difference between then and now is that you fiddled your
configuation. Fiddle it back :-)

I hope that helps and i hope you sort it out :-)
j



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The other day I was annoyed to find that ATT @Home cable had changed my IP 
 address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and DrakProfile 
 to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my 
 internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections to 
 remote sites, I get unknown host.  
 
 Here's what bootup tells me:
 
 network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded 
 ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable 
 network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded 
 ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization. 
 network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed 
 
 I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in Windows, and it 
 appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
 
 Other notes:
 NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
 (is it System Control, the thing that shows devices and related info?)- Shows
 
 NIC to be properly configured
 HardDrak shows my card as it is, a Via-Rhine 10/100 PCI card.
 I tried running DrakProfile and getting that to set up my card.  It said 
 loading drivers for via-rhine card or something similar, then   complained 
 that my network card is not properly set up.
 
 Comments:
 This is a big pain in the butt.  My system works great asides from this 
 annoying lack of connectivity.  I'm not going to make many Linux converts if 
 I can't show them a system that works with the internet.  I can also not read
 
 my POP mail.  I miss KMail.  If you can think of *anything* at all that would
 
 help, I would appreciate it.   Thanks.
 
 Dan
 ICQ 4689648
 


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Re: [expert] Internet connection broken, + dmesg output

2001-05-06 Thread Han2097

The other day I was annoyed to find that ATT @Home cable had changed 
 my
   IP
  address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and
DrakProfile
  to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, 
my
  internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make 
 connections
to
  remote sites, I get unknown host.
   
 You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say 
 you
   are
 using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?
   
   I'm pretty sure it's static.  But I'm also pretty sure that my IP 
address 
 has
   indeed changed.  Is it possible for static IPs to do that?  This is the 
 first
   time it's changed ever (stayed the same for over a year, since we got 
 cable
   installed).  But I always did need to type DHCPCD -I C428830-A -h home.
 com
   go get the network running when I logged in.  Then I put it in some 
 startup
   script so I didn't need to keep typing it.
  
  DHCP leases an IP address; sounds like you've been getting the same IP 
 address
  every time...  just lucky I guess.  

Ok, here's what I've *heard*:  My cable provider does provide static IPs.  
However, it _says_ they are dynamic to discourage people from running 
servers.  How do people who don't need DHCP connect to the internet from 
Linux, what program/script do they use then?

  Here's what bootup tells me:
 
  network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
  ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
  network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
  ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
  network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
   
 Have you checked your NETMASK?
   
   Uhh...What is that?
  
  Usually looks like 255.255.255.0 or somesuch; not important right now 
since 
 you
  have other problems (below)
  
  I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in 
Windows,
   and
it
  appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
 
  Other notes:
  NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
   
 So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.
   
   I guess not.
   
 give us the output of:
   
ifconfig
   loLink encap:Local Loopback# Is this bad news? :)
 inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
 RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  
  No, but the lack of an eth0 is...  hmm... I must've forgot to ask for 
dmesg
  output...  that might be useful since the ethernet appears to be missing...

Here's dmesg:

Linux version 2.2.17-21mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.3 
19991030 (prerelease)) #1 Thu Oct 5 13:16:08 CEST 2000
Detected 299290 kHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 598.02 BogoMIPS
Memory: 62764k/65512k available (1136k kernel code, 416k reserved, 1068k 
data, 128k init, 0k bigmem)
Dentry hash table entries: 8192 (order 4, 64k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k)
Page cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K  L1 D Cache: 32K
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 00
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0200, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 65536 bhash 65536)
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5 
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.13)
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks of 4096K size
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ALI15X3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 78
ALI15X3: chipset revision 32
ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x7090-0x7097, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x7098-0x709f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: QUANTUM Bigfoot TX6.0AT, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC WD205BA, ATA DISK drive
hdc: ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE 32X MAXIMUM, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: QUANTUM Bigfoot TX6.0AT, 5748MB w/69kB Cache, CHS=732/255/63, (U)DMA
hdb: WDC WD205BA, 19574MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=2495/255/63, (U)DMA
hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache

Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-06 Thread Ed Tharp

I would say...  open case, move sound card and network card to different
PCI slots, close case and reboot, go into BOIS and disable P_N_P aware OS,
boot into LINUX, , As root, run linuxconfig,  from a console, and set up
hardware and networking from there. then see what's up... maybe you have not
set it all the way up again.
- Original Message -
From: Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mandrake Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Internet connection broken


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mandrake folk:  duplicate eth entries...  though the core issue appears to
be
 IRQ conflict.

The other day I was annoyed to find that ATT @Home cable had
changed my
  IP
 address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and
   DrakProfile
 to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up,
my
 internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make
connections
   to
 remote sites, I get unknown host.
  
You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say
you
  are
using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?
 
  I'm pretty sure it's static.  But I'm also pretty sure that my IP
address has
  indeed changed.  Is it possible for static IPs to do that?  This is the
first
  time it's changed ever (stayed the same for over a year, since we got
cable
  installed).  But I always did need to type DHCPCD -I C428830-A -h
home.com
  go get the network running when I logged in.  Then I put it in some
startup
  script so I didn't need to keep typing it.

 DHCP leases an IP address; sounds like you've been getting the same IP
address
 every time...  just lucky I guess.

 Here's what bootup tells me:

 network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
 ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
 network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
 ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
 network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
  
Have you checked your NETMASK?
 
  Uhh...What is that?

 Usually looks like 255.255.255.0 or somesuch; not important right now
since you
 have other problems (below)

 I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in
Windows,
  and
   it
 appears as if everything is the same in both systems.

 Other notes:
 NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
  
So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.
 
  I guess not.
 
give us the output of:
  
   ifconfig
  loLink encap:Local Loopback# Is this bad news? :)
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0

 No, but the lack of an eth0 is...  hmm... I must've forgot to ask for
dmesg
 output...  that might be useful since the ethernet appears to be
missing...

   route -n
  Kernel IP routing table
  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
  127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
lo

 Only a loopback address... to be expected since eth0 is not up; but this
 situation will not let any packets leave this machine.

   lsmod
  Module  Size  Used by
  parport_pc  7568   0  (autoclean)
  parport 7744   0  (autoclean) [parport_pc]
  lockd  32208   1  (autoclean)
  sunrpc 54640   1  (autoclean) [lockd]
  autofs  9456   2  (autoclean)
  cs4232  2960   0
  ad1848 16848   0  [cs4232]
  uart401 6384   0  [cs4232]
  sound  58368   0  [cs4232 ad1848 uart401]
  soundlow 464   0  [sound]
  soundcore   2800   6  [sound]
  nls_cp437   3952   8  (autoclean)
  vfat9408   4  (autoclean)
  fat30432   4  (autoclean) [vfat]
  supermount 14224   2  (autoclean)

 No eth driver either.

  
and the contents of:
  
   /etc/modules.conf
  alias net-pf-4 ipx
  pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
  alias usb-interface usb-ohci
  alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
  pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7  /proc/parport/0/irq
  alias sound-slot-0 cs4232
  options sound dmabuf=1
  alias midi opl3
  options opl3 io=0x388
  options cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10
#mpuirq
  _should be 11
  options via-rhine irq=10

 So the sound card is grabbing the eth interrupt...  I'm not familiar with
that
 card...  need to see dmesg output...

  alias eth1 via-rhine  #I think DrakProfile set this up.  Ok
to
  delete?

 Sure.  I've seen other mails about duplicate eth entries; didn't pay
attention
 to the details...  I'm re-inserting expert list in case

Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-05 Thread Pierre Fortin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The other day I was annoyed to find that ATT @Home cable had changed my IP
 address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and DrakProfile
 to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my
 internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections to
 remote sites, I get unknown host.

You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say you are
using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?

 Here's what bootup tells me:
 
 network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
 ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
 network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
 ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
 network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed

Have you checked your NETMASK?  

 I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in Windows, and it
 appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
 
 Other notes:
 NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.

So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.

 (is it System Control, the thing that shows devices and related info?)- Shows
 NIC to be properly configured
 HardDrak shows my card as it is, a Via-Rhine 10/100 PCI card.
 I tried running DrakProfile and getting that to set up my card.  It said
 loading drivers for via-rhine card or something similar, then   complained
 that my network card is not properly set up.

OK... forget the GUIs; give us the output of:

   ifconfig
   route -n
   lsmod

and the contents of:

   /etc/modules.conf
   /etc/resolv.conf
   /etc/sysconfig/network
   /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
   /proc/interrupts
   /proc/ioports

 Comments:
 This is a big pain in the butt.  My system works great asides from this
 annoying lack of connectivity.  I'm not going to make many Linux converts if
 I can't show them a system that works with the internet.  I can also not read

Most of us know this...  Making this sort of comment may actually prevent
helpful people from responding if they think they might have to debug not only a
problem; but deal with an attitude.  Just trying to help (not just you)   **'nuf
said**.

Pierre

 my POP mail.  I miss KMail.  If you can think of *anything* at all that would
 help, I would appreciate it.   Thanks.

 Dan
 ICQ 4689648

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Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-05 Thread Han2097

No, they're not DNS problems.  Using actual IP addresses gives me network 
unreachable.

Dan
ICQ 4689648

 Are you running a firewall that is using your old IP address?  Have you
  tried connecting direct to an IP instead of a URL (dns problems?)
  
  BillK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The other day I was annoyed to find that ATT @Home cable had changed my IP
 address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and DrakProfile
 to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my
 internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections to
 remote sites, I get unknown host.




Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-05 Thread Pierre Fortin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mandrake folk:  duplicate eth entries...  though the core issue appears to be
IRQ conflict.

   The other day I was annoyed to find that ATT @Home cable had changed my
 IP
address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and
  DrakProfile
to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my
internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections
  to
remote sites, I get unknown host.
 
   You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say you
 are
   using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?
 
 I'm pretty sure it's static.  But I'm also pretty sure that my IP address has
 indeed changed.  Is it possible for static IPs to do that?  This is the first
 time it's changed ever (stayed the same for over a year, since we got cable
 installed).  But I always did need to type DHCPCD -I C428830-A -h home.com
 go get the network running when I logged in.  Then I put it in some startup
 script so I didn't need to keep typing it.

DHCP leases an IP address; sounds like you've been getting the same IP address
every time...  just lucky I guess.  

Here's what bootup tells me:
   
network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
 
   Have you checked your NETMASK?
 
 Uhh...What is that?

Usually looks like 255.255.255.0 or somesuch; not important right now since you
have other problems (below)

I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in Windows,
 and
  it
appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
   
Other notes:
NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
 
   So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.
 
 I guess not.
 
   give us the output of:
 
  ifconfig
 loLink encap:Local Loopback# Is this bad news? :)
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
   RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0

No, but the lack of an eth0 is...  hmm... I must've forgot to ask for dmesg
output...  that might be useful since the ethernet appears to be missing...

  route -n
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo

Only a loopback address... to be expected since eth0 is not up; but this
situation will not let any packets leave this machine.

  lsmod
 Module  Size  Used by
 parport_pc  7568   0  (autoclean)
 parport 7744   0  (autoclean) [parport_pc]
 lockd  32208   1  (autoclean)
 sunrpc 54640   1  (autoclean) [lockd]
 autofs  9456   2  (autoclean)
 cs4232  2960   0
 ad1848 16848   0  [cs4232]
 uart401 6384   0  [cs4232]
 sound  58368   0  [cs4232 ad1848 uart401]
 soundlow 464   0  [sound]
 soundcore   2800   6  [sound]
 nls_cp437   3952   8  (autoclean)
 vfat9408   4  (autoclean)
 fat30432   4  (autoclean) [vfat]
 supermount 14224   2  (autoclean)

No eth driver either.

 
   and the contents of:
 
  /etc/modules.conf
 alias net-pf-4 ipx
 pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
 alias usb-interface usb-ohci
 alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
 pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7  /proc/parport/0/irq
 alias sound-slot-0 cs4232
 options sound dmabuf=1
 alias midi opl3
 options opl3 io=0x388
 options cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10  #mpuirq
 _should be 11
 options via-rhine irq=10

So the sound card is grabbing the eth interrupt...  I'm not familiar with that
card...  need to see dmesg output...

 alias eth1 via-rhine  #I think DrakProfile set this up.  Ok to
 delete?

Sure.  I've seen other mails about duplicate eth entries; didn't pay attention
to the details...  I'm re-inserting expert list in case someone at Mandrake
needs to see this situation first hand.

 alias eth0 via-rhine #This is what worked before
  /etc/resolv.conf
 search cdrrpd1.ia.home.com
 
 nameserver 24.2.240.33
 nameserver 24.2.240.34

These resolve to proxy1 and proxy2.cdrrpd1.ia.home.com

 # ppp temp entry
  /etc/sysconfig/network
 NETWORKING=yes
 FORWARD_IPV4=no
 DHCP_HOSTNAME=C428830-A.cdrrpd1.ia.home.com
 HOSTNAME=C428830-A.cdrrpd1.ia.home.com
 DOMAINNAME=cdrrpd1.ia.home.com
 GATEWAY=24.22.240.1

The gateway has no DNS entry; but I can ping it; also, unusual that it would
have an address outside your subnet (see my comment about IP 

[expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-04 Thread Han2097

The other day I was annoyed to find that ATT @Home cable had changed my IP 
address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and DrakProfile 
to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my 
internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections to 
remote sites, I get unknown host.  

Here's what bootup tells me:

network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded 
ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable 
network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded 
ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization. 
network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed 

I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in Windows, and it 
appears as if everything is the same in both systems.

Other notes:
NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
(is it System Control, the thing that shows devices and related info?)- Shows 
NIC to be properly configured
HardDrak shows my card as it is, a Via-Rhine 10/100 PCI card.
I tried running DrakProfile and getting that to set up my card.  It said 
loading drivers for via-rhine card or something similar, then   complained 
that my network card is not properly set up.

Comments:
This is a big pain in the butt.  My system works great asides from this 
annoying lack of connectivity.  I'm not going to make many Linux converts if 
I can't show them a system that works with the internet.  I can also not read 
my POP mail.  I miss KMail.  If you can think of *anything* at all that would 
help, I would appreciate it.   Thanks.

Dan
ICQ 4689648