Re: [expert] Nothing works on KDE!
Don't tell IBM and Boscov's Department store and Amazon and the city of Largo Fla. they think it's pretty stable. Go figuah. mg On Friday 30 November 2001 23:50, ltiu wrote: Your mileage varies. Everyone has a story to tell. It's open source and QA is not very good. That's why it bahaves differently for different people with different hardware, different usage needs and different usage patterns. It's usually a mis-configuration. Tracking down what's mis-configured will be a nightmare. On Friday 30 November 2001 19:42, you wrote: Hello I am having a funny behaviour with KDe and Gnome. If I click on any icon on desktop, I can see that the programme is running but nothing happens after that. If I want to create a terminal, again nothing happens. All windows simply disappear. On Gnome things are a bit different. I can't move any terminal window. They are stuck on the left corner and that is it. On windowmaker, everything works fine. What is going on? Thanks Eduardo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Nothing works on KDE!
It has never crashed on me in 1 1/2 years. That should be stable enough!! -- From: mike[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ltiu Subject: Re: [expert] Nothing works on KDE! File: message.footer.txt Don't tell IBM and Boscov's Department store and Amazon and the city of Largo Fla. they think it's pretty stable. Go figuah. mg On Friday 30 November 2001 23:50, ltiu wrote: Your mileage varies. Everyone has a story to tell. It's open source and QA is not very good. That's why it bahaves differently for different people with different hardware, different usage needs and different usage patterns. It's usually a mis-configuration. Tracking down what's mis-configured will be a nightmare. On Friday 30 November 2001 19:42, you wrote: Hello I am having a funny behaviour with KDe and Gnome. If I click on any icon on desktop, I can see that the programme is running but nothing happens after that. If I want to create a terminal, again nothing happens. All windows simply disappear. On Gnome things are a bit different. I can't move any terminal window. They are stuck on the left corner and that is it. On windowmaker, everything works fine. What is going on? Thanks Eduardo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: ** This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nothing works on KDE!
hey ITU, why not say that is your opinion. cause it ain't mine. and damn that was the least helpful reply I have seen. I am suprised you would waste your time typing that. It's open source and the QA is tons better than a company that keeps it's stuff secert, but the secret probly keeps know it alls form screwing up stuff and blaming it on qa in open source, everyone is QA. it behaves differently for different folks BECAUSE it CAN (same reaason male dogs lick their balls). any thing will be different on different hardware. if the user had rtfd before installing, and does not think they know it all, then it would probly be just as stable as it is here. one guess as to how stuff like this could happen is root copied some config file from one user to another and did not set the permissions orownership. (I know you don't have to do that stuff for your M$ products, but in truth, it is one of the best things about GNU linix is it's file security) On Friday 30 November 2001 23:50, you wrote: Your mileage varies. Everyone has a story to tell. It's open source and QA is not very good. That's why it bahaves differently for different people with different hardware, different usage needs and different usage patterns. It's usually a mis-configuration. Tracking down what's mis-configured will be a nightmare. On Friday 30 November 2001 19:42, you wrote: Hello I am having a funny behaviour with KDe and Gnome. If I click on any icon on desktop, I can see that the programme is running but nothing happens after that. If I want to create a terminal, again nothing happens. All windows simply disappear. On Gnome things are a bit different. I can't move any terminal window. They are stuck on the left corner and that is it. On windowmaker, everything works fine. What is going on? Thanks Eduardo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nothing works on KDE!
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:42, you wrote: Hello I am having a funny behaviour with KDe and Gnome. If I click on any icon on desktop, I can see that the programme is running but nothing happens after that. If I want to create a terminal, again nothing happens. All windows simply disappear. On Gnome things are a bit different. I can't move any terminal window. They are stuck on the left corner and that is it. On windowmaker, everything works fine. What is going on? Thanks Eduardo First thing to try: in Gnome or command line mode (NOT from within KDE), delete or rename the .kde directory in your home directory, then re-start KDE, see if that makes a difference. If that doesn't work, give us some more details to work with. What version of Mandrake? What version of KDE? What version of Gnome? What version of X? What changes did you make just before you started having problems? Or are these problems happening from a clean install? What were the other programs that failed? What hardware do you have? We're happy to help out, but we're not mind-readers, you know :-) John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nothing works on KDE!
Hello First thing to try: in Gnome or command line mode (NOT from within KDE), delete or rename the .kde directory in your home directory, then re-start KDE, see if that makes a difference. I have deleted the whole .kde directory but it didn't do any good. Kde stands beautifully on the screen but I can't do a thing. Everything that has to create a new window doesn't work. It runs for quite a while and disappears. On gnome the situation is different. It takes gnome a long time to load. The first impression is that everything is ok but soon a white screen comes out and the desktop changes (no toolbar on the bottom anymore). All windows are created on the top right of the screen and they can't not be moved as the top of them has been cut off somehow. If I switch from gnome to windowmaker gnome windows (applications) can be created and can be moved around. However no kde application can't seen (that is, it runs and then disappears). If that doesn't work, give us some more details to work with. What version of Mandrake? What version of KDE? What version of Gnome? What version of X? What changes did you make just before you started having problems? Or are these problems happening from a clean install? What were the other programs that failed? What hardware do you have? Info: OS: LM 8.0 standard, I am not sure about Kde and gnome versions but are the ones that come with LM 8.0. XFree 3.3.6 (due to vmware) Hardware: COMPAQ 5000T 5Bw, 566 celeron, intel 810e, 512 MB - KDE and Gnome had worked fine since fresh installation on July 2001. - The last thing I have installed was transcriber0.6 which requested some perl modules (TK bundle and TK-month). I've got the wrong one in the beginning (tk-4.00) but then I've downloaded the right one (tk8000). It is not that any programme fails but they are terminated somehow. All programmes worked before and some of them still work under windowmaker and blackbox. Is there a way to re-install KDE or Gnome? I don't want to do that but if I have no alternative ... Many thanks Ed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Interestingly, I use Linux now because I decided to try it, as a dual boot, and was amazed how smoothly it installed and just ran, compared to Windows 2000 Professional, which I had installed just about a month before. This was a pre 6.5 version of Mandrake, I couldn't get over it! I work a full time job and have nearly zero time to tweak and poke, and my Mandrake 7.2 system is only rebooted when the power has gone out long enough to trip the power failure software (about once this year), I have had to reboot my 8.0 system many more times than that, not to mention the countless occasions of having to log in from another machine to clear up a bug. Also, on the 7.2 system I can unplug my USB mouse, while running X, and when I plug it back it - it works; in 8.0 if I want to unplug the mouse, I have to Ctl-Alt-Fx to a console (which must be logged in) then when I plug the mouse back in I have to wait for the usb interrupt message, then hit Enter then Ctl-Alt-F7 to reenter X for the mouse to work. How come the older Linux's work better? To paraphrase Queen (with a little of 13th Warrior thrown in) WE are the champions my friends, limping is for losers, get stronger. Linux can be tops, but we need to stop making excuses. mg On Saturday 01 December 2001 03:14, ltiu wrote: That's because these are commercial establishments with time and resources to extensively test and configure their systems. Joe the home user wants things working right away. I use Linux now but when I first started, I had to spend lots of time and effort before things worked. On Friday 30 November 2001 23:49, you wrote: Don't tell IBM and Boscov's Department store and Amazon and the city of Largo Fla. they think it's pretty stable. Go figuah. mg On Friday 30 November 2001 23:50, ltiu wrote: Your mileage varies. Everyone has a story to tell. It's open source and QA is not very good. That's why it bahaves differently for different people with different hardware, different usage needs and different usage patterns. It's usually a mis-configuration. Tracking down what's mis-configured will be a nightmare. On Friday 30 November 2001 19:42, you wrote: Hello I am having a funny behaviour with KDe and Gnome. If I click on any icon on desktop, I can see that the programme is running but nothing happens after that. If I want to create a terminal, again nothing happens. All windows simply disappear. On Gnome things are a bit different. I can't move any terminal window. They are stuck on the left corner and that is it. On windowmaker, everything works fine. What is going on? Thanks Eduardo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Nothing works on KDE!
Hello I am having a funny behaviour with KDe and Gnome. If I click on any icon on desktop, I can see that the programme is running but nothing happens after that. If I want to create a terminal, again nothing happens. All windows simply disappear. On Gnome things are a bit different. I can't move any terminal window. They are stuck on the left corner and that is it. On windowmaker, everything works fine. What is going on? Thanks Eduardo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nothing works on KDE!
Your mileage varies. Everyone has a story to tell. It's open source and QA is not very good. That's why it bahaves differently for different people with different hardware, different usage needs and different usage patterns. It's usually a mis-configuration. Tracking down what's mis-configured will be a nightmare. On Friday 30 November 2001 19:42, you wrote: Hello I am having a funny behaviour with KDe and Gnome. If I click on any icon on desktop, I can see that the programme is running but nothing happens after that. If I want to create a terminal, again nothing happens. All windows simply disappear. On Gnome things are a bit different. I can't move any terminal window. They are stuck on the left corner and that is it. On windowmaker, everything works fine. What is going on? Thanks Eduardo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
