Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-02 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:44, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:36, Kiran wrote:
> >  > Like I said X worked well, so did gdm for that matter.  There really are
> > > only 3 things I want out of kde Konqueror, kdm and kate.  So I tried an
> > > experiment.  Since installing from the cooker wasn't working (I'm
> > > running cooker on this box.)  I backed off to the rc1 disk version (the
> > > last one that worked that I can still get ) and poof ... everything
> > > worked.  When and if they get the hdlist.cz matching the actual files in
> > > cooker I'll let the upgrade run again and see what happens.  More and
> > > More it seems to be related to the latest qt3.  I filed the bug report
> > > but was told they couldn't duplicate my problem.  
> > 
> > Did you try to install the entire KDE packeage? Not sure if this would
> > help with this problem, but it might. other than that it does look like
> > something is broken/missing from your install of cooker...perhaps it is
> > QT3. Does RC1 use the same QT version?? if not try downgrading to it and
> > see if that helps. Cooker seems to be using libqt-3.1.1.1-13 as of
> > 02/25/03 and rc1 was last updated 02/18/03.
> 
> 
> > I've got 
> 
> kdelibs-3.1-4mdk
> kdelibs-common-3.1-4mdk
> kdebase-3.1-7mdk
> kdeadmin-3.1-3mdk
> 
> 
> + to satisfy dependencies.  
> arts-1.1.0-1mdk
> libarts-1.1.0-1mdk
> libqt3-common-3.1.1-8mdk
> libqt3-3.1.1-8mdk
> krootwarning-9.1-1mdk
> mdklaunchhelp-9.1-2mdk
> 
> This is the combo that works..
> 
> I'm going to try the upgrade again to see if it rebreaks.. then backoff
> qt3 to see if it's the cause.   I'm just waiting for the hdlist.cz to
> match the rpms on the site (shouldn't take too long.)
> 
> James
> 
> 

Kiran,

   It most definitly is libqt3 and or libqt3-common . I did the
urpmi --update --auto --auto-select  it upgraded all of my kde apps
above.  I then tried to run kcontrol it crashed immediately  Same
error as before that it could not communicate with the DCOPserver
then I did 

rpm -e qt3 qt3-common

and then I did

rpm -Uvh  libqt3-3.1.1-8mdk.i586.rpm Libqt3-common-3.1.1-8mdk.i586.rpm 

the I ran kcontrol again from the command line and it worked.  Don't
know but near as I can tell for my hardware etc.  qt3 is hosed.

James




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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-02 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:36, Kiran wrote:
>  > Like I said X worked well, so did gdm for that matter.  There really are
> > only 3 things I want out of kde Konqueror, kdm and kate.  So I tried an
> > experiment.  Since installing from the cooker wasn't working (I'm
> > running cooker on this box.)  I backed off to the rc1 disk version (the
> > last one that worked that I can still get ) and poof ... everything
> > worked.  When and if they get the hdlist.cz matching the actual files in
> > cooker I'll let the upgrade run again and see what happens.  More and
> > More it seems to be related to the latest qt3.  I filed the bug report
> > but was told they couldn't duplicate my problem.  
> 
> Did you try to install the entire KDE packeage? Not sure if this would
> help with this problem, but it might. other than that it does look like
> something is broken/missing from your install of cooker...perhaps it is
> QT3. Does RC1 use the same QT version?? if not try downgrading to it and
> see if that helps. Cooker seems to be using libqt-3.1.1.1-13 as of
> 02/25/03 and rc1 was last updated 02/18/03.


> I've got 

kdelibs-3.1-4mdk
kdelibs-common-3.1-4mdk
kdebase-3.1-7mdk
kdeadmin-3.1-3mdk


+ to satisfy dependencies.  
arts-1.1.0-1mdk
libarts-1.1.0-1mdk
libqt3-common-3.1.1-8mdk
libqt3-3.1.1-8mdk
krootwarning-9.1-1mdk
mdklaunchhelp-9.1-2mdk

This is the combo that works..

I'm going to try the upgrade again to see if it rebreaks.. then backoff
qt3 to see if it's the cause.   I'm just waiting for the hdlist.cz to
match the rpms on the site (shouldn't take too long.)

James


> --
> kiran
> 


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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-02 Thread Kiran
 > Like I said X worked well, so did gdm for that matter.  There really are
> only 3 things I want out of kde Konqueror, kdm and kate.  So I tried an
> experiment.  Since installing from the cooker wasn't working (I'm
> running cooker on this box.)  I backed off to the rc1 disk version (the
> last one that worked that I can still get ) and poof ... everything
> worked.  When and if they get the hdlist.cz matching the actual files in
> cooker I'll let the upgrade run again and see what happens.  More and
> More it seems to be related to the latest qt3.  I filed the bug report
> but was told they couldn't duplicate my problem.  

Did you try to install the entire KDE packeage? Not sure if this would
help with this problem, but it might. other than that it does look like
something is broken/missing from your install of cooker...perhaps it is
QT3. Does RC1 use the same QT version?? if not try downgrading to it and
see if that helps. Cooker seems to be using libqt-3.1.1.1-13 as of
02/25/03 and rc1 was last updated 02/18/03.

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kiran



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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-02 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 05:32, Kiran wrote:
> Did you '--force --nodeps' the install??

Nope since I'd removed everything via urpme rpm -e and then using rm -Rf
I removed anything and everything left behind. Then I did 

urpmi kdebase-kdm 

(which is what I actually want running) and said yes to everything it
wanted to install

> 
> if so you may need to find a dependency. 
> 
> Or try XFdrake.
> it may reset something that was broken in the configs with the upgrade.

Like I said X worked well, so did gdm for that matter.  There really are
only 3 things I want out of kde Konqueror, kdm and kate.  So I tried an
experiment.  Since installing from the cooker wasn't working (I'm
running cooker on this box.)  I backed off to the rc1 disk version (the
last one that worked that I can still get ) and poof ... everything
worked.  When and if they get the hdlist.cz matching the actual files in
cooker I'll let the upgrade run again and see what happens.  More and
More it seems to be related to the latest qt3.  I filed the bug report
but was told they couldn't duplicate my problem.  

James

> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 22:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> >I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
> > I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
> > kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
> > ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
> > the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
> > dump.  
> > 
> > Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
> > errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
> > something.  
> > 
> > Xlib:  extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0".
> > DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
> > ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> > 
> > Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
> > working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
> > shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
> > work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
> > should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
> > restored it 
> > 
> > The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
> > dumps so I don't get much out of it
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-02 Thread Kiran
Did you '--force --nodeps' the install??

if so you may need to find a dependency. 

Or try XFdrake.
it may reset something that was broken in the configs with the upgrade.



On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 22:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
> All,
> 
>I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
> I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
> kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
> ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
> the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
> dump.  
> 
> Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
> errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
> something.  
> 
> Xlib:  extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0".
> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> 
> Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
> working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
> shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
> work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
> should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
> restored it 
> 
> The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
> dumps so I don't get much out of it
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg


On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 10:00, Damian Gatabria wrote:
> On Saturday 01 de March 2003 01:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > All,
> >
> >I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
> > I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
> > kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
> > ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
> > the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
> > dump.
> >
> > Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
> > errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
> > something.
> >
> > Xlib:  extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0".
> > DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
> > ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> >
> > Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
> > working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
> > shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
> > work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
> > should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
> > restored it
> >
> > The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
> > dumps so I don't get much out of it
> >
> > James
> 
> Try wiping out all temp directories. A bad/old socket file may
> be confusing DCOP.

Let me try and see what happens.


> Damian
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Saturday 01 de March 2003 01:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
> All,
>
>I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
> I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
> kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
> ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
> the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
> dump.
>
> Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
> errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
> something.
>
> Xlib:  extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0".
> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
>
> Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
> working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
> shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
> work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
> should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
> restored it
>
> The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
> dumps so I don't get much out of it
>
> James

Try wiping out all temp directories. A bad/old socket file may
be confusing DCOP.

Damian


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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread diego
Sorry, no guru here so no idea too :-(( 

But... when I want to open a full kde2 environment through command I do:
1) kwin & (window manager)
2) kdeinit & (some basic kde stuff)
3) kicker & (panel bar)
4) kdesktop & (obvious)

Might be this solves about missing render...



El sáb, 01-03-2003 a las 05:34, James Sparenberg escribió:
> All,
> 
>I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
> I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
> kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
> ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
> the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
> dump.  
> 
> Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
> errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
> something.  
> 
> Xlib:  extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0".
> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> 
> Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
> working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
> shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
> work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
> should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
> restored it 
> 
> The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
> dumps so I don't get much out of it
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg
All,

   I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
dump.  

Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
something.  

Xlib:  extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0".
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!

Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
restored it 

The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
dumps so I don't get much out of it

James




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