Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Denis Havlik]

Hi
 
I do not really care WHY are people comming here, as long as they
do. Maybe they are just looking for a good company? 
Let them hang around here long enough, and they will start using Mandrake
too.-)

cu

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Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Mark Weaver]

Either way you slice it I LOVE my Linux Mandrake BOX!

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On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > Alan,
> > 
> > I've heard that Mandrake is RedHat enhanced. I don't know this for a fact,
> > but I've seem a lot of similarities between the two. You could say they're
> > 1st cousins.
> > 
> Not any more. It *used* to be "RedHat + enhancements." Now it's a
> separate distro. However, it's about 95%+ RedHat compatible in that
> RedHat rpms will work on Mandrake and vice versa.
>   John
> 
> 

Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Roberto A. F.]

Ken Thompson wrote:

> Well spoken - Hear -Hear...

Yes I think so too.

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Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Ken Thompson]

Well spoken - Hear -Hear...
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> It is a clear and distinct message to me when other distro users
> show up on this mailing list for help...  A very hopeful message
> for the future of amicability.
> 
> By george, I'll help them with no distinction.  Of course my
> advice may not be as well researched, because I haven't seen the
> other distros in a while and I don't know immediately where to
> look for the tech support doc, but then they should know free
> advice is well worth what they pay for it.
> 
> So why are those folks here?  
> 
> 1)  Their distro has a "cathedral-style mailing list", with
> _bona-fide_ "experts" instead of users struggling to help each
> other out.  We all have seen what happens to people who become
> too impressed with themselves and their own knowledge. 
> 
> 2)  The mailing lists for their distro are flame magnets.
> 
> 3)  Their own distro has NO mailing list
> 
> As long as they don't advocate their distros here, I don't think
> I have a problem.  If other distro users are showing up here and
> they are well-received, they'll be with us soon enough.  Now is
> not the time to deviate from a winning strategy, or from being
> our friendly selves.  I really don't think helping out people in
> need is raising the entropy of the universe, nor do I believe it
> constitutes tortious conduct.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Civileme
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Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Alan,
> 
> I've heard that Mandrake is RedHat enhanced. I don't know this for a fact,
> but I've seem a lot of similarities between the two. You could say they're
> 1st cousins.
> 
Not any more. It *used* to be "RedHat + enhancements." Now it's a
separate distro. However, it's about 95%+ RedHat compatible in that
RedHat rpms will work on Mandrake and vice versa.
John

Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> I'm running RH 6.2 at the moment.  I susbscribe to  this list since
> there are lotta good people here and I've learned a tremendous amount.
>  2 reasons I'm running RH.. When 7.0 came out there were just too many
> problem's being reported.  I'm not good enough in Linux to fix some of
> these on my own.  Also, as of tonite I own a CD burner.  I didn't
> before, and I burnt a RH CD at work beacuse I needed to make a few work
> projects that I wanted to run Linux on.  Now that I have a burner, I
> will probably upgrade ( new install ) of Linux when KDE 2.0 comes out
> and appears on Mdk.. I will probably go back to MDK since I think they
> are really making it easier for some of us less knowledgable..
> 
I second this. While I may be more technically competent than some of
the "newbies," I recently upgraded from Mandrake 6.0 to RedHat 6.2 for
many of the same reasons you (Alan N.) list. I was happy with
Mandrake 6.0, except I wanted KDE 1.1.2 and the highest I'd been able
to upgrade it to was 1.1.1. When I tried to upgrade to 1.1.2, I
screwed the pooch and lost my X completely. What was I to do?
Reinstall. At that time, the latest release was 7.02. I didn't want
to upgrade to that because of all the "bugs" that I'd read about on
this list. So, I upgraded to RH 6.2. 
When KDE2 comes out, I'll likely reformat and reinstall, salvaging my
/home directory and some other "storage" type directories. :-) I'm
expecting that KDE2 will likely come out around the end of this year,
and since Mandrake appears to offer a new version about twice a year,
a new version of Mandrake will (hopefully) be available around the
first of 2001! :-) Of course, I'll probably wait until 2nd quarter of
2001 to make sure that all the bugs are worked out, but... :-)
John

Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Mark Weaver]

Alan,

I've heard that Mandrake is RedHat enhanced. I don't know this for a fact,
but I've seem a lot of similarities between the two. You could say they're
1st cousins.

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REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym.
Registered Linux user # 1299563

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Alan N. wrote:

> Civileme wrote:
> > 
> > It is a clear and distinct message to me when other distro users
> > show up on this mailing list for help...  A very hopeful message
> > for the future of amicability.
> > 
> > By george, I'll help them with no distinction.  Of course my
> > advice may not be as well researched, because I haven't seen the
> > other distros in a while and I don't know immediately where to
> > look for the tech support doc, but then they should know free
> > advice is well worth what they pay for it.
> > 
> > So why are those folks here?
> > 
> > 1)  Their distro has a "cathedral-style mailing list", with
> > _bona-fide_ "experts" instead of users struggling to help each
> > other out.  We all have seen what happens to people who become
> > too impressed with themselves and their own knowledge.
> > 
> > 2)  The mailing lists for their distro are flame magnets.
> > 
> > 3)  Their own distro has NO mailing list
> > 
> > As long as they don't advocate their distros here, I don't think
> > I have a problem.  If other distro users are showing up here and
> > they are well-received, they'll be with us soon enough.  Now is
> > not the time to deviate from a winning strategy, or from being
> > our friendly selves.  I really don't think helping out people in
> > need is raising the entropy of the universe, nor do I believe it
> > constitutes tortious conduct.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Civileme
> 
> I'm running RH 6.2 at the moment.  I susbscribe to  this list since
> there are lotta good people here and I've learned a tremendous amount.
>  2 reasons I'm running RH.. When 7.0 came out there were just too many
> problem's being reported.  I'm not good enough in Linux to fix some of
> these on my own.  Also, as of tonite I own a CD burner.  I didn't
> before, and I burnt a RH CD at work beacuse I needed to make a few work
> projects that I wanted to run Linux on.  Now that I have a burner, I
> will probably upgrade ( new install ) of Linux when KDE 2.0 comes out
> and appears on Mdk.. I will probably go back to MDK since I think they
> are really making it easier for some of us less knowledgable..
> 
> Alan
> 
> 

Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Mark Weaver]

I second that! An awesome thought.

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On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Civileme wrote:

> It is a clear and distinct message to me when other distro users
> show up on this mailing list for help...  A very hopeful message
> for the future of amicability.
> 
> By george, I'll help them with no distinction.  Of course my
> advice may not be as well researched, because I haven't seen the
> other distros in a while and I don't know immediately where to
> look for the tech support doc, but then they should know free
> advice is well worth what they pay for it.
> 
> So why are those folks here?  
> 
> 1)  Their distro has a "cathedral-style mailing list", with
> _bona-fide_ "experts" instead of users struggling to help each
> other out.  We all have seen what happens to people who become
> too impressed with themselves and their own knowledge. 
> 
> 2)  The mailing lists for their distro are flame magnets.
> 
> 3)  Their own distro has NO mailing list
> 
> As long as they don't advocate their distros here, I don't think
> I have a problem.  If other distro users are showing up here and
> they are well-received, they'll be with us soon enough.  Now is
> not the time to deviate from a winning strategy, or from being
> our friendly selves.  I really don't think helping out people in
> need is raising the entropy of the universe, nor do I believe it
> constitutes tortious conduct.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Civileme
> 
> 

Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Alan Shoemaker]

Civilemewell conceived, well thought out, and well stated.

Alan


Civileme wrote:
> 
> It is a clear and distinct message to me when other distro users
> show up on this mailing list for help...  A very hopeful message
> for the future of amicability.
> 
> By george, I'll help them with no distinction.  Of course my
> advice may not be as well researched, because I haven't seen the
> other distros in a while and I don't know immediately where to
> look for the tech support doc, but then they should know free
> advice is well worth what they pay for it.
> 
> So why are those folks here?
> 
> 1)  Their distro has a "cathedral-style mailing list", with
> _bona-fide_ "experts" instead of users struggling to help each
> other out.  We all have seen what happens to people who become
> too impressed with themselves and their own knowledge.
> 
> 2)  The mailing lists for their distro are flame magnets.
> 
> 3)  Their own distro has NO mailing list
> 
> As long as they don't advocate their distros here, I don't think
> I have a problem.  If other distro users are showing up here and
> they are well-received, they'll be with us soon enough.  Now is
> not the time to deviate from a winning strategy, or from being
> our friendly selves.  I really don't think helping out people in
> need is raising the entropy of the universe, nor do I believe it
> constitutes tortious conduct.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Civileme

Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Craig Woods]

Sorry to engage in such frivolity but I must say, Civileme, your
sagacity is only matched by your depth of Linux-Mandrake knowledge.  And
I might hasten to add, what a wonderful word "tortious". Maybe every now
and then, a little levity is good thing for the soul

Thanks,
Craig


Civileme wrote:

> It is a clear and distinct message to me when other distro users
> show up on this mailing list for help...  A very hopeful message
> for the future of amicability.
>
> By george, I'll help them with no distinction.  Of course my
> advice may not be as well researched, because I haven't seen the
> other distros in a while and I don't know immediately where to
> look for the tech support doc, but then they should know free
> advice is well worth what they pay for it.
>
> So why are those folks here?
>
> 1)  Their distro has a "cathedral-style mailing list", with
> _bona-fide_ "experts" instead of users struggling to help each
> other out.  We all have seen what happens to people who become
> too impressed with themselves and their own knowledge.
>
> 2)  The mailing lists for their distro are flame magnets.
>
> 3)  Their own distro has NO mailing list
>
> As long as they don't advocate their distros here, I don't think
> I have a problem.  If other distro users are showing up here and
> they are well-received, they'll be with us soon enough.  Now is
> not the time to deviate from a winning strategy, or from being
> our friendly selves.  I really don't think helping out people in
> need is raising the entropy of the universe, nor do I believe it
> constitutes tortious conduct.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Civileme

Re: [expert] RH and other distro users

[Alan N.]

Civileme wrote:
> 
> It is a clear and distinct message to me when other distro users
> show up on this mailing list for help...  A very hopeful message
> for the future of amicability.
> 
> By george, I'll help them with no distinction.  Of course my
> advice may not be as well researched, because I haven't seen the
> other distros in a while and I don't know immediately where to
> look for the tech support doc, but then they should know free
> advice is well worth what they pay for it.
> 
> So why are those folks here?
> 
> 1)  Their distro has a "cathedral-style mailing list", with
> _bona-fide_ "experts" instead of users struggling to help each
> other out.  We all have seen what happens to people who become
> too impressed with themselves and their own knowledge.
> 
> 2)  The mailing lists for their distro are flame magnets.
> 
> 3)  Their own distro has NO mailing list
> 
> As long as they don't advocate their distros here, I don't think
> I have a problem.  If other distro users are showing up here and
> they are well-received, they'll be with us soon enough.  Now is
> not the time to deviate from a winning strategy, or from being
> our friendly selves.  I really don't think helping out people in
> need is raising the entropy of the universe, nor do I believe it
> constitutes tortious conduct.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Civileme

I'm running RH 6.2 at the moment.  I susbscribe to  this list since
there are lotta good people here and I've learned a tremendous amount.
 2 reasons I'm running RH.. When 7.0 came out there were just too many
problem's being reported.  I'm not good enough in Linux to fix some of
these on my own.  Also, as of tonite I own a CD burner.  I didn't
before, and I burnt a RH CD at work beacuse I needed to make a few work
projects that I wanted to run Linux on.  Now that I have a burner, I
will probably upgrade ( new install ) of Linux when KDE 2.0 comes out
and appears on Mdk.. I will probably go back to MDK since I think they
are really making it easier for some of us less knowledgable..

Alan

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[expert] RH and other distro users

[Civileme]

It is a clear and distinct message to me when other distro users
show up on this mailing list for help...  A very hopeful message
for the future of amicability.

By george, I'll help them with no distinction.  Of course my
advice may not be as well researched, because I haven't seen the
other distros in a while and I don't know immediately where to
look for the tech support doc, but then they should know free
advice is well worth what they pay for it.

So why are those folks here?  

1)  Their distro has a "cathedral-style mailing list", with
_bona-fide_ "experts" instead of users struggling to help each
other out.  We all have seen what happens to people who become
too impressed with themselves and their own knowledge. 

2)  The mailing lists for their distro are flame magnets.

3)  Their own distro has NO mailing list

As long as they don't advocate their distros here, I don't think
I have a problem.  If other distro users are showing up here and
they are well-received, they'll be with us soon enough.  Now is
not the time to deviate from a winning strategy, or from being
our friendly selves.  I really don't think helping out people in
need is raising the entropy of the universe, nor do I believe it
constitutes tortious conduct.

Best regards,

Civileme