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My comments are interspersed. Alastair Scott wrote: :: On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 5:08 pm, Daniel Woods wrote: :: :: > Do Dell's LCD 15" and 17" monitors work ok :: > (recognized) under LM8.2 ? :: :: Flat panels tend not to be recognised per se; however, there are generic The recognition of a flat-panel doesn't depend on Mdk8.2 per se, but on X, what modules X is instructed to load, what video card you have, and whether you monitor/card is EDID-capable. I do LCD FP research and so I'm constantly plugging different LCD monitors into my Mdk 8.2 system. (I currently have four on my desk!) I run the new nvidia GeForce4 Titanium card (VisionTek) with dual VGA/DVI-I outputs and the nvidia binary driver (which was needed 4 months ago to drive the digital DVI-I port). I have even hot-swapped panels (not recommended!!) without a problem. :: settings for laptop LCD screens in the M8.2 Expert setup and these work :: perfectly. :: :: I have an 18.1" iiyama and 'Generic LCD panel 1280x1024' does the job. :: (I :: would expect fewer problems than with CRTs as you don't have to worry :: about :: refresh rates, horizontal and vertical sync etc. etc.). Well this is not strictly true. They certainly have a refresh rate (60 Hz, mostly, even if they say something other than 60) and horizontal and vertical sync rates. It is true that there is no flying spot like a CRT but source and gate drivers (for TFT panels) still need to be synchronised to something. For example the (experimental) monitor I've got next to me at this moment says its H rate is 64kHz. :: > What about Dell's Optiplex computers for Linux ? :: :: This is being written using an Optiplex G150 (curious little desktop :: case) on :: which Mandrake 8.2 installed in 20 minutes, straight through, without :: any :: problems. :: :: > Any problems with the 32X-DVD/CD-RW drives ? :: > :: > And their default "Integrated Intel Pro 1000 MT Gigabit" :: > network card ? :: :: These I can't comment on because my hardware is slightly older (3C905 :: Ethernet :: card, integrated, and Teac 24xCD-ROM). Generally what's inside the box :: is :: more important than who the OEM is. There are many many things to consider when buying a FP if you plan to use it for serious work. I will only mention here that you should not believe the "response time" that is advertised by Dell or anyone else. They are constantly being joked about at the display conferences. One of the monitors I have on my desk is from Dell (but branded by someone else who will go unnamed). The panel cost more than $1k and they advertise a response time below 25ms which sounds very nice. This turns out to be true for black --> white and white --> black transitions. But what do you suppose the black --> mid-grey response time is? Would you believe 140ms!!! So a moving black object on a grey background will level a black comet tail as long as your arm. Lots of other things to consider but I can't go into them now. If your goal is to run KDE and do day-to-day text processing/programming, just about any FP monitor will be fine. But if you do serious gaming, or professional graphics design, (where colour is important), or motion research (where response is important), or medical X-ray work (where Dynamic range and contrast ratio are important) well, caveat emptor. :: Alastair :: - -- :: Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) :: http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ :: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- :: Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) :: Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org Dean S. Messing Center for Displayed Appearance Information Systems Technologies Dept. Sharp Laboratories of America E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Have you looked at the docs: file:///usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Xinerama-HOWTO.html Maybe you need to edit your /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file as explained in the HOWTO in order to start the xinerama extensions. Todd Lyons wrote: > Dean S. Messing wrote on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 03:41:23PM -0700 : > >>subset of them. Also, consideration shd be given to the >>question of "Is this a big waste of time?". I mean, if the >>Mdk KDE packages are known to be compiled with xinerama support >>enabled then recompiling them with xinerama support enabled shouldn't >>(in a causal universe) fix my "grey out" problem. > > > I am not authoritative of this but it seems to me that the "grey out" > problem is a function of the configuration utility, having little to do > with whether KDE is compiled to support it or not. Just a guess from > the peanut gallery. > > Blue skies... Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Dean S. Messing wrote on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 03:41:23PM -0700 : > > subset of them. Also, consideration shd be given to the > question of "Is this a big waste of time?". I mean, if the > Mdk KDE packages are known to be compiled with xinerama support > enabled then recompiling them with xinerama support enabled shouldn't > (in a causal universe) fix my "grey out" problem. I am not authoritative of this but it seems to me that the "grey out" problem is a function of the configuration utility, having little to do with whether KDE is compiled to support it or not. Just a guess from the peanut gallery. Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-8.3-0.2mdk Kernel 2.4.18-21mdk msg56223/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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I normally _strongly_ dislike including all previous text from every message in a thread in the current message. But maybe there's some wisdom in it :-) :: Where did you get your KDE rpms? >From my very 1st first message: I'm running Mandrake 8.2 with stock KDE. :: If it is MDK's it should have Xinerama :: support compiled by default and the Enable Xinerama Support option :: should not :: be grayed out. It shouldn't, but it is. :-) :: If it is, then I would suggest that you recompile the RPMS :: and ensure that the --enable-xinerama option is turned on. :: :: Balaji Good suggestion. But I wrote in my second message in this thread: I don't relish trying to re-compile the kde subsystem. I'm not even sure what to re-build. I count (at least) 17 .src.rpm files in cooker associated with kde-3.0.2 and a `rpm -qa| fgrep kde' brings up 24 kde (2.2.2) related .rpms installed on my current Mdk 8.2 system. I think configuring and building a kernel (which I've done) looks easier than trying to rebuild kde. In other words, the task daunts me. But if someone could shed some (more) light on things I'll give it a try. Please note: I am quite familiar with building .rpm's from .src.rpm's and I've hacked (in a limited way) my share of .spec files so there's no need to go into this. I need to know if I should rebuild _all_ the packages or just some subset of them. Also, consideration shd be given to the question of "Is this a big waste of time?". I mean, if the Mdk KDE packages are known to be compiled with xinerama support enabled then recompiling them with xinerama support enabled shouldn't (in a causal universe) fix my "grey out" problem. Finally, please forgive the wry tone of this note. I'm so frustrated by the time I've wasted on this that I've actually toyed (for a millesecond or two) with the idea of trashing linux entirely, and going over to XP^H^H... no I won't say it. I'm a long-time advocate of linux so this was just a passing moment of insanity. But my frustration is, I fear, coming out as sarcasm. Sorry! Dean Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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You can install wu-imap, which has a pop3 and imap server (accessed via inetd or xinetd). try: urpmi imap Buchan > Subject: Re: [expert] Alternative to postfix > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:56:21 -0500 (EST) > From: Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Christian A Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Christian, > > Sendmail and Postfix cannot and will not install and work on the same > system at the same time. They fight one another. You will first have to > uninstall Postfix altogether, and then install Sendmail. If you're running > Mdk 7.2 I strongly suggest using sendmail-8.9.3-20 or sendmail-8.10.x-x > because there seems to be something amiss with the version of Sendmail > that ships with Mdk 7.2. > > I have used both of the versions I've mentioned above on my mandrake 7.2 > system with success, but at present I am using 8.9.3-20 because it works > better with Majordomo then does 8.10. Not sure why...all I know at the > moment is that it works and I'm happy with that. > > Sendmail will accept connections and perform as a mailserver just fine. I > used it as such and am able to receive mail from the internet AND connect > to it to gather the mail sent to the system. More over, I'm able to > connect to the mailserver with Netscape Messenger to both send and recieve > mail. > > So, Sendmail is a very functional SMTP. > > -- > Mark > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," > "Sharing is what makes them powerful." > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Christian A [iso-8859-1] Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno] wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:49:30 +0100 > > From: "Christian A [iso-8859-1] Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno]" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [expert] Alternative to postfix > > > > On Thursday 08 February 2001 16:49, you wrote: > > > postfix is a very very good mailer. i suggest that you join > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . they answered all my questions very rapidly, > > > and now i'm running postfix on all my servers. > > > > postfix, as I've learned, is not a pop server, eg. I can not download mail > > from it. So I'm asking for a pop server :) > > > > -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 808 2497 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za
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I have a mandrake webserver here and a week ago I changed the memory out in it. up till this point it had been running 3 months without a reboot. It ran one week and then all of a sudden stopped responding to anything but ping. all services shutdown. being it is a remote machine I got it turned off and back on and it started back up fine but this was in the log files: Dec 17 00:02:05 nix kernel: ll_rw_block: Trying to read nonexistent block-device 00:01 (983049) Dec 17 00:02:05 nix kernel: EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,1)): ext2_write_inode: unable to read inode block - inode=484028, block=983049 Dec 17 11:58:34 nix syslogd 1.3-3: restart. Any ideas as to what has happened here? Please email all responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to please as I am on the digest. thanks :) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
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So sprach Brown, Charles V. am Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 08:04:39PM -0600: > Is there a linux email client product that can > talk to a Microsoft Exhange email server? I think Trade Client is able to do so. Thanks for providing such a great example why full quoting is useless! :] PLEASE read my signature! Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx GnuPG ID: 4E35467E FP: 93367E5B4AB777B42065533F456FF17C4E35467E ICQ:7328191 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
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Is there a linux email client product that can talk to a Microsoft Exhange email server? Thanks ... Charles Brown -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Digest for list expert Table of content : 1. [expert] Playing MIDI files 2. Re: [expert] HPT366 DMA hanging boot on Odyssey 3. [expert] Update problems 7.1 -> 7.2 4. Re: [expert] Xfree 4.0.1 problem 5. [expert] Does sympa work? 6. Re: [expert] LM 7.2 Installation Fails at mkbootdisk/install boot loader 7. [expert] pop-3 8. [expert] pop-3 9. [expert] kde control-center: ABNT-2 Keyboard Breaks Netscape] 10. Re: [expert] Xfree 4.0.1 problem 11. Re: [expert] LM 7.2 Installation Fails at mkbootdisk/install boot loader 12. [expert] Printing in LM 7.2 13. Re: [expert] pop-3 14. RE: [expert] pop-3 15. Re: [expert] pop-3 16. Re: [expert] pop-3 17. Re: [expert] pop-3 18. Re: [expert] pop-3 19. RE: [expert] pop-3 20. RE: [expert] pop-3 21. Re: [expert] pop-3 22. [expert] Sounds in KDE 23. [expert] Kernel 2.4.0-test10 24. Re: [expert] pop-3 25. RE: [expert] pop-3 26. [expert] some 7.2 problems! 27. Re: [expert] pop-3 28. Re: [expert] Backing up to tape 29. Re: [expert] Cannot Mount / (root) via NFS 30. [expert] Aureal w/ MDK 7.2 w/SMP 31. Re: [expert] Update problems from 7.1 to 7.2 32. Re: [expert] Cannot Mount / (root) via NFS 33. Re: [expert] Cannot Mount / (root) via NFS 34. Re: [expert] Playing MIDI files 35. [expert] howto upgrade from rh to lm 36. Re: [expert] some 7.2 problems! 37. Re: [expert] Sounds in KDE 38. Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.0-test10 39. [expert] Recommendations. 40. Re: [expert] LM 7.2 Installation Fails at mkbootdisk/install boot loader 41. [expert] Bug in Tetex / terminfo 42. [expert] Mandrake 7.2 - Problem with kmail ... 43. Re: [expert] Recommendations. 44. [expert] 7.2 doesn't boot after install on Abit BP6 45. Re: [expert] HPT366 DMA hanging boot on Odyssey 46. Re: [expert] KDESU 47. RE: [expert] Fully qualified Domain names 48. Re: [expert] 7.2 doesn't boot after install on Abit BP6 49. [expert] Permission denied 50. [expert] How do you get Konqueror to use java? 51. Re: [expert] Permission denied 52. Re: [expert] Promise ATA-100 53. [expert] ami or ami-applet 54. Re: [expert] How do you get Konqueror to use java? 55. [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 56. [expert] mdk 7.2 and lots o' questions / experiences 57. Re: [expert] Remote printing 58. Re: [expert] kde control-center: ABNT-2 Keyboard Breaks Netscape] 59. Re: [expert] Printing in LM 7.2 60. [expert] Kernel Panic - weird error 61. Re: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 62. Re: [expert] Playing MIDI files 63. Re: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 64. RE: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 65. [expert] Network printing in MDK 7.2 66. [expert] ifup on 7.2 67. Re: [expert] LM 7.2 Installation Fails at mkbootdisk/install boot loader 68. Re: [expert] kde control-center: ABNT-2 Keyboard Breaks Netscape] 69. Re: [expert] kde control-center: ABNT-2 Keyboard Breaks Netscape] 70. [expert] Gnome Wheel scrolling problems [illogical] 71. Re: [expert] mdk 7.2 and lots o' questions / experiences 72. [expert] Mandrake 7.2 boot problems 73. [expert] Mandrake 7.2 boot problems 74. Re: [expert] Gnome Wheel scrolling problems [illogical] 75. RE: [expert] pop-3 76. RE: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 77. Re: [expert] mdk 7.2 and lots o' questions / experiences 78. [expert] Problems (bugs) in kde2 in Mandrake 7.2? 79. [expert] Problems (bugs) in kde2 in Mandrake 7.2? 80. RE: [expert] pop-3 81. Re: [expert] How do you get Konqueror to use java? 82. Re: [expert] Problems (bugs) in kde2 in Mandrake 7.2? 83. RE: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 84. [expert] US Dvorak keyboard missing from KDE keyboard selector - Where is it? 85. [expert] g++ 86. Re: [expert] g++ 87. [expert] What is it with libstdc++? 88. [expert] pppd question 89. Re: [expert] Problems (bugs) in kde2 in Mandrake 7.2? 90. [expert] SMP 91. RE: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 92. [expert] Mandrake 7.1 upgrade to 7.2 problems - specifically the "r" 93. Re: [expert] Problems (bugs) in kde2 in Mandrake 7.2? 94. RE: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 95. Re: [expert] Problems (bugs) in kde2 in Mandrake 7.2? 96. [expert] could not open default font "fixed" 97. Re: [expert] could not open default font "fixed" 98. [expert] Install problem 99. [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2 100. Re: [expert] Install problem 101. Re: [expert] No telnet into my 7.2 box? 102. Re: [expert] Problems (bugs) in kde2 in Mandrake 7.2? 103. Re: [expert] Gnome Wheel scrolling problems [illogical] 104. Re: [expert] SMP 105. [expert] access from outside the network 106. [expert] Editing files in Linux 4 Windows 107. [expert] gnu/secure linux/hard links 108. Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2 109. [expert] Gnome, blank desktop 110. [expert] 7.2 so
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If you just killed X and kept running like that, init will try and restart (x|k|g)dm periodically. You probably need to become root, then type "init 3" to change to a runlevel where init won't try and restart X. Then fix X (using XFDrake, Xconfigurator, XF86Config - in this order preferably). If you can then start X again, try changin run-levels back to 5, "init 5" as root, and if it works, all is well. Buchan paddock wrote: > > Hi, good folks! > > I apologize in advance for cluttering up the "Expert" list with stuff from a Newbie, >but this is one I haven't a clue how to trace and solve. > > A couple of days ago, I was faced with what appeared to be a locked-up "X" ("kdm" >from all evidence -- it's whatever Mandrake 7.1 installed for me), so I did the "X" >3-finger salute of and after 15 seconds (or so), I got to log >back in. Ever since then (through several shutdowns, also, btw!), every 5 minutes, I >get a string of the following in the syslog (I follow the log with "tail" to watch my >firewall in action!): > > Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:03 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: > Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" > Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: > Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is >running (pid 735) > Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost init: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes > > At this moment, doing > > ps -ef | grep [k]dm > > returns the following (spacing may not be accurate): > > root 7351 0 12:04 ?00:00:00 kdm lang-sh-end > root 1798 735 0 12:10 ?00:00:00 [kdm] > > I've tried killing various combinations of the pids mentioned (in this example, >"735" and "1798"); this just gives me the opportunity to log in again and restart >all my background stuff up again. > > I've tried putting a "SIGSTOP" on the what I deduce is the "child" (because of the >parent pid > not being "1"), but it just resumes itself (or something else resumes it) and 5 >minutes later I get another rash of the "Can't lock pid file" activity. > > Whew. Is there someone reading this who 1) knows what's going on; and 2) can tell >me how to make it stop happening? I know I can stop it by reinstalling the OS, but >this isn't the Redmond OS, one isn't supposed to have to reinstall for silliness like >this! > > Apologies again, and TIA! > -- > I hope you and yours are prospering! > --Paddock --- > Registered Linux user 190974 ( 2000-Oct-05 ). > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |-
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Hi, good folks! I apologize in advance for cluttering up the "Expert" list with stuff from a Newbie, but this is one I haven't a clue how to trace and solve. A couple of days ago, I was faced with what appeared to be a locked-up "X" ("kdm" from all evidence -- it's whatever Mandrake 7.1 installed for me), so I did the "X" 3-finger salute of and after 15 seconds (or so), I got to log back in. Ever since then (through several shutdowns, also, btw!), every 5 minutes, I get a string of the following in the syslog (I follow the log with "tail" to watch my firewall in action!): Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:03 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line: Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: "lang.sh-end" Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 735) Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost init: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes At this moment, doing ps -ef | grep [k]dm returns the following (spacing may not be accurate): root 7351 0 12:04 ?00:00:00 kdm lang-sh-end root 1798 735 0 12:10 ?00:00:00 [kdm] I've tried killing various combinations of the pids mentioned (in this example, "735" and "1798"); this just gives me the opportunity to log in again and restart all my background stuff up again. I've tried putting a "SIGSTOP" on the what I deduce is the "child" (because of the parent pid not being "1"), but it just resumes itself (or something else resumes it) and 5 minutes later I get another rash of the "Can't lock pid file" activity. Whew. Is there someone reading this who 1) knows what's going on; and 2) can tell me how to make it stop happening? I know I can stop it by reinstalling the OS, but this isn't the Redmond OS, one isn't supposed to have to reinstall for silliness like this! Apologies again, and TIA! -- I hope you and yours are prospering! --Paddock --- Registered Linux user 190974 ( 2000-Oct-05 ). Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
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I have the F560, and out of the box everything works fine except for sound and USB. I haven't had a lot of time to spend fooling with it, but I imagine both of those can be made to work. The sound driver is the Yamaha Legacy, which has kernel support (but I think the one in the sony's is slightly different). The USB needs to have the IRQ/IOAddr information passed to it when inserting it (I think .. when i try to insmod without, it errors out and says it can't find the device, so that is my guess), but I don't know what the proper arguments to pass are. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AS T Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Re: Digest for list expert HI, I am thinking about getting a Sony Vaio F540. Will have a problem installing Man 7 on it? I do plan to run in graphics mode (KDE) Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Re: Digest for list expert
HI, I am thinking about getting a Sony Vaio F540. Will have a problem installing Man 7 on it? I do plan to run in graphics mode (KDE) Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.