Re: [expert] Reiserfs stability (was: Konqueror - https 'dies unexpectedly')

2001-05-29 Thread Stephen Boulet

On Tuesday 29 May 2001 09:44 pm, Civileme wrote:


> To make it happen you install a / only system with lotsa unused space.  The
> / can be reiser--that's automatically a notail mount.

But, if I understand it correctly, you can have a root reiser partition 
mounted without the notail option if you have a separate partition for /boot.

I have a separate, small /boot partition, and made it an ext2 partition, 
since there is no advantage to making it reiserfs.

-- Stephen




Re: [expert] Reiserfs stability (was: Konqueror - https 'dies unexpectedly')

2001-05-29 Thread Tom Lawton

Hi,

> To make it happen you install a / only system with lotsa unused space.  The
> / can be reiser--that's automatically a notail mount.

 Oh dear. My system only has / and /home partitions, both are reiser. If the 
/ is being automatically mounted notail anyway, it seems odd that it's the 
one which has *more* problems - presumably /home is being hit quite hard with 
email/web cache use etc so usage shouldn't be too wildly different.

 I guess I'll have to wait for a new release of reiserfsprogs and have 
another go with --rebuild-db on root.

thanks,

tom

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Re: [expert] Reiserfs stability (was: Konqueror - https 'dies unexpectedly')

2001-05-29 Thread Civileme

On Tuesday 29 May 2001 09:19, Tom Lawton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Want to make Reiser more stable?  Use only notail mounts.  Of course
> > that's a LOT more stable.
>
>  Is this a suitable option for use on a bog standard workstation Manrdake
> system? I know it's more space hungry (anyone know how much?) - is it also
> slower?
>
>  I'm imagining/hoping Reiser will get bulletproof fairly quickly - so I'm
> keeping close on the upgrades of kernel and tools. However, I'm getting a
> few bad_stat_data (x is used by at least two files) and wrong lengths
> reported by reiserfsck (3.x.0j-2mdk), which it refuses to fix with -x or
> -o, and even a --rebuild-db doesn't fix the stat_data errors! Any advice?
> Otherwise the system seems a lot more stable since kernel 2.4.4.
>
> thanks,
>
> tom


Well with current install tools it isn't easy to do.  It is FASTER, but less 
efficient on storage.  How much less?  Worst case is less than double 
required, and for that you need a host of files that are one block plus one 
byte.  The B-tree overhead is the same or less.

To make it happen you install a / only system with lotsa unused space.  The / 
can be reiser--that's automatically a notail mount.

Then you create /var /usr /home and other partitions manually, and format 
them reiser.

Then you edit /etc/fstab and make them mount points like /spusr /spvar /sphome

/dev/hda7 /spusr reiserfs notail 1 2
/dev/hda8 /sphome reiserfs notail 1 2
/dev/hda9 /spvar reiserfs notail 1 2

Of course the partition designations will vary with your mileage.

Mount them and 

mount /spusr && cp -a /usr/* /spusr && umount /spusr
mount /spvar && cp -a /var/* /spvar && umount /spvar
mount /sphome && cp -a /home/* /sphome && umount /sphome

Now edit /etc/fstab again and remove the 'sp' from the mount points

then

mv /home /oldhome && mkdir /home && mount /home
mv /var /oldvar && mkdir /var && mount /var
mv /usr /oldusr && mkdir /usr && mount /usr

Delete the /oldxxx directories at your leisure, bring in urpmi or similar or 
just use your install CD and run Update to load the amount of system you want.


Civileme

Please note that if you do not use the install disk in update mode, you never 
even need to reboot.




Re[2]: [expert] Reiserfs stability (was: Konqueror - https 'dies unexpectedly')

2001-05-29 Thread Rusty Carruth

Tom Lawton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Want to make Reiser more stable?  Use only notail mounts.  Of course that's
> > a LOT more stable.
> 
>  Is this a suitable option for use on a bog standard workstation Manrdake 
> system? I know it's more space hungry (anyone know how much?) - is it also 
> slower?
> 
>  I'm imagining/hoping Reiser will get bulletproof fairly quickly 

Ok, I've been watching the discussion here for a while - and now its
time for me to ask:

So, there's reiser, jfs (is that the name of the journaling file system?),
raid (which won't do what reiser does for you), and I thought something else.
Oh - there it is - 'xfs'.  (Did I miss any others?)

Here's the question:

If reiser has these kinds of problems I've been seeing, has anyone tried any of the
others and what did they think???

Thanks!

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Re: [expert] Reiserfs stability (was: Konqueror - https 'dies unexpectedly')

2001-05-29 Thread Tom Lawton

Hi,

> Want to make Reiser more stable?  Use only notail mounts.  Of course that's
> a LOT more stable.

 Is this a suitable option for use on a bog standard workstation Manrdake 
system? I know it's more space hungry (anyone know how much?) - is it also 
slower?

 I'm imagining/hoping Reiser will get bulletproof fairly quickly - so I'm 
keeping close on the upgrades of kernel and tools. However, I'm getting a few 
bad_stat_data (x is used by at least two files) and wrong lengths reported by 
reiserfsck (3.x.0j-2mdk), which it refuses to fix with -x or -o, and even a 
--rebuild-db doesn't fix the stat_data errors! Any advice? Otherwise the 
system seems a lot more stable since kernel 2.4.4.

thanks,

tom


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