Re: [expert] Sendmail vs Postfix!!

2001-03-11 Thread Dave Brown

Nopostfix is over an order of magnitude faster than sendmail
NoPostfix is far more secure and a hell of a lot easier to configure 
than sendmail

As an anecdotal note, at the ISP I used to work for we replaced 5 Sparc 
Ultra 2 mail servers running sendmail with one very lightly configed 
E4500(was a firesale box, and we could not afford to add any hardware to 
it, so it was stuck at 2GB of ram and 2 processors) running postfix

Our sendmail guru fought tooth and nail to avoid changing over, until he 
started working with postfix and realized just HOW much faster and easier 
to configure  it really was.

  --Dave



Ing.Israel Garcia Alvarez typethed the following...
>Hi:
>
>I've got two questions!
>Do you think sendmail is faster than postfix as MTA's? Why?
>Do you think sendmail is more secure than postfix as MTA's? Why?
>I have always use sendmail and now I have a Mandrake 7.2 with postfix and I
>would like to know your opinions.
>Thanks a lot.
>
>My best regards.
>
>Israel Garcia Alvarez
>Administrador Capiro Villa Clara
>http://www.vcl.sld.cu/~israel






Re: [expert] Sendmail vs Postfix!!

2001-03-10 Thread Vincent Danen

On Fri Mar 09, 2001 at 01:42:43PM -0600, Larry Blodgett wrote:

> Dan is right about the question.  Is it Qmail or Postfix?
> 
> Qmail is just as secure (if not more) as Postfix and much easier to 
> configure and manage.  Mandrake now comes with sendmail and Postfix 
> but I wish they would have included Qmail.  I wonder why they left 
> Qmail out?
> 
> Just my two cents.

Due to licensing restrictions on qmail dealing primarily with binary
distribution, it isn't "safe" (in legal terms) to distribute qmail in
binary format for Linux Mandrake.

*However* anyone wanting to use qmail can do so by visiting
www.freezer-burn.org/ and clicking on the "qmail under Linux-Mandrake"
link to view my pages on getting qmail to work under Linux Mandrake
with the binary rpms I've created for qmail.

The qmail rpms work 100%, along with a number of associated utilities
(those that have not been thoroughly tested have been noted, which is
basically some minor utilities and courier-imap).  I've been using
these qmail rpms on my own system for months without a problem, using
it for virtual hosting for a number of domains to using it as a local
MTA on a workstation.  Configuration is simplistic and it works right
out of the box for local MTA's and with a little bit of work for a
full-blown multi-domain mail server.

Until we get the blessing of the author to distribute the rpm in
binary form (which follows the letter of his license restrictions on
binary distribution completely), we most likely will not have qmail in
the distribution.  Why?  Because there is no point in getting tangled
in some legalities (even though I am confident the license is not
broken with my binary rpms, I am not willing to endanger MandrakeSoft
with a potential suit).  Until Dan gives me the ok to do so (which has
been asked on more than one occassion), you can only get the binary
rpm from my site.

This is unfortunate and I wish this wasn't the way it had to be, but
unfortunately the license is rather clear on the matter and although I
believe he allows for a "grey" area, I don't think anyone wants to see
MandrakeSoft get into any kind of trouble for entering that grey area
(myself, as an individual, am not so concerned with distributing it
myself for Linux Mandrake unofficially and without their resources or
time).

So, to make a long story even longer, that's why it's not in the
distribution (in a rather large nutshell).

The full link to the qmail rpms is:

www.freezer-burn.org/qmail.php

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Re: [expert] Sendmail vs Postfix!!

2001-03-09 Thread Mike MacCana

Because qmail isn't Open Source, it just has source code available (much 
like Windows)

Mike

On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Larry Blodgett wrote:

> Dan is right about the question.  Is it Qmail or Postfix?
> 
> Qmail is just as secure (if not more) as Postfix and much easier to 
> configure and manage.  Mandrake now comes with sendmail and Postfix 
> but I wish they would have included Qmail.  I wonder why they left 
> Qmail out?
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 
> 
> >  > Do you think sendmail is more secure than postfix as MTA's? Why?
> >
> >As Mike said...
> > Sendmail: Wasn't written by Weitse Venema, who is God.
> > Postfix: was.
> >Weitse also wrote TCP wrappers.
> >Postfix is definitely more secure and easier to administer than
> >sendmail.
> >
> >Your choice should not be between sendmail vs. postfix, it should
> >be Qmail vs. Postfix, which are both secure.
> >
> >Postfix does the job for me.
> >Thanks... Dan.
> 
> -- 
> Larry Blodgett
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> --- Linux, WinNT, MS-DOS - also known as the Good, the Bad and the Ugly
> ---"Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither." -B. Franklin
> ---"Always ask the question, never assume the answer." -Marcus Radich 1999
> 
> 




Re: [expert] Sendmail vs Postfix!!

2001-03-09 Thread Daniel Woods


> Do you think sendmail is more secure than postfix as MTA's? Why?


As Mike said...
Sendmail: Wasn't written by Weitse Venema, who is God.
Postfix: was.

Weitse also wrote TCP wrappers.
Postfix is definitely more secure and easier to administer than
sendmail.

Your choice should not be between sendmail vs. postfix, it should
be Qmail vs. Postfix, which are both secure.

Postfix does the job for me.

Thanks... Dan.






Re: [expert] Sendmail vs Postfix!!

2001-03-09 Thread Larry Blodgett

Dan is right about the question.  Is it Qmail or Postfix?

Qmail is just as secure (if not more) as Postfix and much easier to 
configure and manage.  Mandrake now comes with sendmail and Postfix 
but I wish they would have included Qmail.  I wonder why they left 
Qmail out?

Just my two cents.


>  > Do you think sendmail is more secure than postfix as MTA's? Why?
>
>As Mike said...
> Sendmail: Wasn't written by Weitse Venema, who is God.
> Postfix: was.
>Weitse also wrote TCP wrappers.
>Postfix is definitely more secure and easier to administer than
>sendmail.
>
>Your choice should not be between sendmail vs. postfix, it should
>be Qmail vs. Postfix, which are both secure.
>
>Postfix does the job for me.
>Thanks... Dan.

-- 
Larry Blodgett
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- Linux, WinNT, MS-DOS - also known as the Good, the Bad and the Ugly
---"Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither." -B. Franklin
---"Always ask the question, never assume the answer." -Marcus Radich 1999




[expert] Sendmail vs Postfix!!

2001-03-09 Thread Ing.Israel Garcia Alvarez

Hi:

I've got two questions!
Do you think sendmail is faster than postfix as MTA's? Why?
Do you think sendmail is more secure than postfix as MTA's? Why?
I have always use sendmail and now I have a Mandrake 7.2 with postfix and I
would like to know your opinions.
Thanks a lot.

My best regards.

Israel Garcia Alvarez
Administrador Capiro Villa Clara
http://www.vcl.sld.cu/~israel