Re: [expert] Setting up a locked down firewall intranet server

2000-04-28 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


If you select & de-select X, it will still install linuxconf, but that's
not just a GUI tool; it's the curses version that will be installed, and
it's a handy tool.

Monte Milanuk wrote:
> 
> Tried that... It insists on installing drakconf or some such gui tool,
> and I presume the requisite X environment.
> 
> Monte
> 
> "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:
> >
> > Monte Milanuk wrote:
> >
> > > O.K.  I am going to take the plunge.  I am getting an ISDN line put in,
> > > and will get a terminal adapter ISDN modem.  Since the local internet
> > > provider's ISDN account has an unlimited access plan, this box will
> > > probably be up and online a lot of the time.  Currently I use Freesco
> > > 0.25 running from a 3.5" floppy to act as a firewall/router/dialup
> > > gateway on a spare Celeron266 w/ 64MB RAM.  I would like to 'upgrade'
> > > this to an full blown intranet server/firewall/gateway running on a PII
> > > 400 w/ 128MB RAM, and about 24GB of hard drive space.  I hope to have
> > > this box serving
> > >  DHCP, DNS, Samba, NFS, xntp, mail, news, squid, etc., and maybe X
> > > (vnc).  The one thing that this box really doesn't need is multimedia (
> > > sound, or graphics, etc).  I would like to admin the box over the local
> > > network using Webmin.
> > >
> > > Now on to the main topic of this post:  How the heck can I get LM 7.0 to
> > > install w/o X?  I can make a boot disk for a text-mode network install,
> > > but the install program insists on adding the X Window system and
> > > KDE/Gnome, etc.  I don't want/need them, so do I just have to put up w/
> > > this and remove them after the install?  Also, would I be better off
> > > doing this sort of setup w/ LM 6.1 instead?
> > >
> > > Monte
> > >
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> > If you install in an expert / server mode you should be able to select the
> > packages to be installed.  Just don't select X...
> >
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Re: [expert] Setting up a locked down firewall intranet server

2000-04-28 Thread Monte Milanuk

I did a text-based network install, entering 'expert' at
the boot: prompt, and deselected everything I didn't
want/need, then went into 'Select individual packages', and
further cleaned house.  Towards the end, I found that the
boxes for 'X11/X Windows', 'X11/KDE', and 'X11/Gnome' could
not be unselected, no matter what.  This caused a number of
packages to be installed, plus other ones I had already
unselected (i.e. gnomba required samba, which I had
deselected in favor of getting the new 2.07, etc).  So much
for a 'custom' install.  

Anyway, I finished the install, mounted a NFS partition
from the other machine, installed webmin, and am now ready
to go ahead and start setting things up.  Anybody out there
have any experience configuring things from scratch using
Webmin?

Monte


--- "Brian T. Schellenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Just use a custom install and click twice on the X stuff
> to select & the
> de-select it all.
> 
> I have a non-X server running.
> 
> On the other hand, it would be safer to keep the existing
> Celeron266 for
> a firewall/router (it's more than sufficient) and use
> another (possibly
> higher-powered) box for the server.
> FWIW.
> 
> Monte Milanuk wrote:
> > 
> > O.K.  I am going to take the plunge.  I am getting an
> ISDN line put in,
> > and will get a terminal adapter ISDN modem.  Since the
> local internet
> > provider's ISDN account has an unlimited access plan,
> this box will
> > probably be up and online a lot of the time.  Currently
> I use Freesco
> > 0.25 running from a 3.5" floppy to act as a
> firewall/router/dialup
> > gateway on a spare Celeron266 w/ 64MB RAM.  I would
> like to 'upgrade'
> > this to an full blown intranet server/firewall/gateway
> running on a PII
> > 400 w/ 128MB RAM, and about 24GB of hard drive space. 
> I hope to have
> > this box serving
> >  DHCP, DNS, Samba, NFS, xntp, mail, news, squid, etc.,
> and maybe X
> > (vnc).  The one thing that this box really doesn't need
> is multimedia (
> > sound, or graphics, etc).  I would like to admin the
> box over the local
> > network using Webmin.
> > 
> > Now on to the main topic of this post:  How the heck
> can I get LM 7.0 to
> > install w/o X?  I can make a boot disk for a text-mode
> network install,
> > but the install program insists on adding the X Window
> system and
> > KDE/Gnome, etc.  I don't want/need them, so do I just
> have to put up w/
> > this and remove them after the install?  Also, would I
> be better off
> > doing this sort of setup w/ LM 6.1 instead?
> > 
> > Monte
> > 
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > http://im.yahoo.com
> 
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Re: [expert] Setting up a locked down firewall intranet server

2000-04-28 Thread Gavin Clark

you can always use rpm to uninstall things you don't want.

Gavin

> Tried that... It insists on installing drakconf or some such gui tool,
> and I presume the requisite X environment.
>
> Monte
> "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:
>>
>> Monte Milanuk wrote:
>> > Now on to the main topic of this post:  How the heck can I get LM 7.0 to
>> > install w/o X?  I can make a boot disk for a text-mode network install,
>> > but the install program insists on adding the X Window system and
>> > KDE/Gnome, etc.  I don't want/need them, so do I just have to put up w/
>> > this and remove them after the install?  Also, would I be better off
>> > doing this sort of setup w/ LM 6.1 instead?
>> >
>> If you install in an expert / server mode you should be able to select the
>> packages to be installed.  Just don't select X...
>> 



Re: [expert] Setting up a locked down firewall intranet server

2000-04-27 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


Just use a custom install and click twice on the X stuff to select & the
de-select it all.

I have a non-X server running.

On the other hand, it would be safer to keep the existing Celeron266 for
a firewall/router (it's more than sufficient) and use another (possibly
higher-powered) box for the server.
FWIW.

Monte Milanuk wrote:
> 
> O.K.  I am going to take the plunge.  I am getting an ISDN line put in,
> and will get a terminal adapter ISDN modem.  Since the local internet
> provider's ISDN account has an unlimited access plan, this box will
> probably be up and online a lot of the time.  Currently I use Freesco
> 0.25 running from a 3.5" floppy to act as a firewall/router/dialup
> gateway on a spare Celeron266 w/ 64MB RAM.  I would like to 'upgrade'
> this to an full blown intranet server/firewall/gateway running on a PII
> 400 w/ 128MB RAM, and about 24GB of hard drive space.  I hope to have
> this box serving
>  DHCP, DNS, Samba, NFS, xntp, mail, news, squid, etc., and maybe X
> (vnc).  The one thing that this box really doesn't need is multimedia (
> sound, or graphics, etc).  I would like to admin the box over the local
> network using Webmin.
> 
> Now on to the main topic of this post:  How the heck can I get LM 7.0 to
> install w/o X?  I can make a boot disk for a text-mode network install,
> but the install program insists on adding the X Window system and
> KDE/Gnome, etc.  I don't want/need them, so do I just have to put up w/
> this and remove them after the install?  Also, would I be better off
> doing this sort of setup w/ LM 6.1 instead?
> 
> Monte
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com

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Re: [expert] Setting up a locked down firewall intranet server

2000-04-27 Thread Monte Milanuk

Tried that... It insists on installing drakconf or some such gui tool,
and I presume the requisite X environment.

Monte



"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:
> 
> Monte Milanuk wrote:
> 
> > O.K.  I am going to take the plunge.  I am getting an ISDN line put in,
> > and will get a terminal adapter ISDN modem.  Since the local internet
> > provider's ISDN account has an unlimited access plan, this box will
> > probably be up and online a lot of the time.  Currently I use Freesco
> > 0.25 running from a 3.5" floppy to act as a firewall/router/dialup
> > gateway on a spare Celeron266 w/ 64MB RAM.  I would like to 'upgrade'
> > this to an full blown intranet server/firewall/gateway running on a PII
> > 400 w/ 128MB RAM, and about 24GB of hard drive space.  I hope to have
> > this box serving
> >  DHCP, DNS, Samba, NFS, xntp, mail, news, squid, etc., and maybe X
> > (vnc).  The one thing that this box really doesn't need is multimedia (
> > sound, or graphics, etc).  I would like to admin the box over the local
> > network using Webmin.
> >
> > Now on to the main topic of this post:  How the heck can I get LM 7.0 to
> > install w/o X?  I can make a boot disk for a text-mode network install,
> > but the install program insists on adding the X Window system and
> > KDE/Gnome, etc.  I don't want/need them, so do I just have to put up w/
> > this and remove them after the install?  Also, would I be better off
> > doing this sort of setup w/ LM 6.1 instead?
> >
> > Monte
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > http://im.yahoo.com
> 
> If you install in an expert / server mode you should be able to select the
> packages to be installed.  Just don't select X...
> 
> --
> Joseph S. Gardner
> Senior Designer / Technical Support
> Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Linux is like a wigwam...
> No windows, no gates.
> Apache inside
> 
> Registered linux user #1696600
> ICQ #63389227

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Re: [expert] Setting up a locked down firewall intranet server

2000-04-27 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

Monte Milanuk wrote:

> O.K.  I am going to take the plunge.  I am getting an ISDN line put in,
> and will get a terminal adapter ISDN modem.  Since the local internet
> provider's ISDN account has an unlimited access plan, this box will
> probably be up and online a lot of the time.  Currently I use Freesco
> 0.25 running from a 3.5" floppy to act as a firewall/router/dialup
> gateway on a spare Celeron266 w/ 64MB RAM.  I would like to 'upgrade'
> this to an full blown intranet server/firewall/gateway running on a PII
> 400 w/ 128MB RAM, and about 24GB of hard drive space.  I hope to have
> this box serving
>  DHCP, DNS, Samba, NFS, xntp, mail, news, squid, etc., and maybe X
> (vnc).  The one thing that this box really doesn't need is multimedia (
> sound, or graphics, etc).  I would like to admin the box over the local
> network using Webmin.
>
> Now on to the main topic of this post:  How the heck can I get LM 7.0 to
> install w/o X?  I can make a boot disk for a text-mode network install,
> but the install program insists on adding the X Window system and
> KDE/Gnome, etc.  I don't want/need them, so do I just have to put up w/
> this and remove them after the install?  Also, would I be better off
> doing this sort of setup w/ LM 6.1 instead?
>
> Monte
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com

If you install in an expert / server mode you should be able to select the
packages to be installed.  Just don't select X...


--
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Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227





[expert] Setting up a locked down firewall intranet server

2000-04-26 Thread Monte Milanuk

O.K.  I am going to take the plunge.  I am getting an ISDN line put in,
and will get a terminal adapter ISDN modem.  Since the local internet
provider's ISDN account has an unlimited access plan, this box will
probably be up and online a lot of the time.  Currently I use Freesco
0.25 running from a 3.5" floppy to act as a firewall/router/dialup
gateway on a spare Celeron266 w/ 64MB RAM.  I would like to 'upgrade' 
this to an full blown intranet server/firewall/gateway running on a PII
400 w/ 128MB RAM, and about 24GB of hard drive space.  I hope to have
this box serving
 DHCP, DNS, Samba, NFS, xntp, mail, news, squid, etc., and maybe X
(vnc).  The one thing that this box really doesn't need is multimedia (
sound, or graphics, etc).  I would like to admin the box over the local
network using Webmin.

Now on to the main topic of this post:  How the heck can I get LM 7.0 to
install w/o X?  I can make a boot disk for a text-mode network install,
but the install program insists on adding the X Window system and
KDE/Gnome, etc.  I don't want/need them, so do I just have to put up w/
this and remove them after the install?  Also, would I be better off
doing this sort of setup w/ LM 6.1 instead?

Monte


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