Re: [expert] UPSs
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 17:19, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 13 Jun 2003 9:35 pm, Brian V Bonini wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:32, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > question here. > > > > > > Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd > > > working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this > > > to the twiki? I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be > > > because this box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) > > > The howto at tldp.org is a bit long in the tooth and definitely > > > not MDK specific (actually most of them tend to be RH or Debian > > > based.) > > > > > > Calling all Volunteers! *grin* > > > > I can do it, just had to set one a few weeks ago so it should be > > relatively fresh in my head. > > This I'm looking forward to I've been promising myself that I > would look out all the leads and get the info to set it up. > There's almost nothing to it. It's one of the more "turn-key' apps I've ever seen. Just a couple mandatory configs in /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf and the RPM for mdk (9.0 at least) does not set up the correct runlevels for it so you have to do '$chkconfig --level 2345 apcupsd on'. I've yet to figure out how to get it to signal the computer back on but it does a clean shut down with times system messages. Will document it shortly... :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 9:35 pm, Brian V Bonini wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:32, James Sparenberg wrote: > > question here. > > > > Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd > > working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this > > to the twiki? I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be > > because this box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) > > The howto at tldp.org is a bit long in the tooth and definitely > > not MDK specific (actually most of them tend to be RH or Debian > > based.) > > > > Calling all Volunteers! *grin* > > I can do it, just had to set one a few weeks ago so it should be > relatively fresh in my head. This I'm looking forward to I've been promising myself that I would look out all the leads and get the info to set it up. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:35, Brian V Bonini wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:32, James Sparenberg wrote: > > question here. > > > > > Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd > > working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the > > twiki? I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this > > box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) The howto at tldp.org > > is a bit long in the tooth and definitely not MDK specific (actually > > most of them tend to be RH or Debian based.) > > > > Calling all Volunteers! *grin* > > > > I can do it, just had to set one a few weeks ago so it should be > relatively fresh in my head. Thanks...! > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:32, James Sparenberg wrote: > question here. > > > Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd > working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the > twiki? I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this > box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) The howto at tldp.org > is a bit long in the tooth and definitely not MDK specific (actually > most of them tend to be RH or Debian based.) > > Calling all Volunteers! *grin* > I can do it, just had to set one a few weeks ago so it should be relatively fresh in my head. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
thanks all who responded. between 2 mailing lists, there were 7 votes for APC, 1 for Tripp-Lite... if anyone's interested. joe --- Original Message --- From: KevinO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UPSs >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >James Sparenberg wrote: >> Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd >> working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the >> twiki? I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this >> box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) > >It has been a while since I have set this all up so I am in no position to >write up another how-to for it. I suggest starting here : > >http://www.apcupsd.com/ > >when looking for latest instructions. > >We have two APC SmartUPS Net uinits here, a 1000VA and a 1400VA. The larger >one in hooked up using one of APC's special 'serial' cables to a Mandrake 7.0 >box working as the master and supplies power to 5 slaves including MDK 8.0, >MDK 8.2, MDK 9.0. The smaller UPS is 'serial' connected to a MDK 8.1 box that >is the master and has two slaves -- a Smoothwall firewall box and a Solaris box. > >Everything works fine. I did have to change a battery last winter in the 1400 >and to reset the battery status in the UPS I resorted briefly to running >powerchute. > >The MDK 7.0 box currently has 672 days continous uptime > >- -- >KevinO > >Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The >others escaped with minor injuries. > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > >iD8DBQE+6h0ljBS1mMJB+bQRAhaWAJ97tSAykn2PVYXHWNLMLarcMe3qbQCg5nN5 >rOajhSD8j4qoCHuC/TAtdHs= >=R9Sr >-END PGP SIGNATURE- > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote: > Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd > working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the > twiki? I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this > box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) It has been a while since I have set this all up so I am in no position to write up another how-to for it. I suggest starting here : http://www.apcupsd.com/ when looking for latest instructions. We have two APC SmartUPS Net uinits here, a 1000VA and a 1400VA. The larger one in hooked up using one of APC's special 'serial' cables to a Mandrake 7.0 box working as the master and supplies power to 5 slaves including MDK 8.0, MDK 8.2, MDK 9.0. The smaller UPS is 'serial' connected to a MDK 8.1 box that is the master and has two slaves -- a Smoothwall firewall box and a Solaris box. Everything works fine. I did have to change a battery last winter in the 1400 and to reset the battery status in the UPS I resorted briefly to running powerchute. The MDK 7.0 box currently has 672 days continous uptime - -- KevinO Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The others escaped with minor injuries. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+6h0ljBS1mMJB+bQRAhaWAJ97tSAykn2PVYXHWNLMLarcMe3qbQCg5nN5 rOajhSD8j4qoCHuC/TAtdHs= =R9Sr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:16, Brian V Bonini wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:31, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 06:18, Brian V Bonini wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for > > > > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server. > > > > > > > > > > Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-) > > > > > > I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy > > > with its performance.. > > > > > > You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much > > > battery run time you need, etc... > > > > Note for the above comment... If money is a consideration. Don't put > > your monitor on UPS. You'll last longer during an outage with a smaller > > ups. > > > > But to the original question. I've had great luck with ACP myself. > > current one is 4 years old and it survived the California Blackouts > > without losing any data. > > > > > BTW: The APC site will let you plug in some generic info, processor > type/speed, monitor size, etc.. and make recommendations and provide > battery run times for various models based on your power needs. > > I'm running an pro 1100 serial and have 2 printers a 21" monitor, > computer, cable modem, router, printserver and zip drive running off it. > It will run the computer, monitor, and router/modem for about 30 minutes > but I've got apcupsd set up to just shut the system down after like 10 > minutes of no power. question here. > Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the twiki? I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) The howto at tldp.org is a bit long in the tooth and definitely not MDK specific (actually most of them tend to be RH or Debian based.) Calling all Volunteers! *grin* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:31, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 06:18, Brian V Bonini wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for > > > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server. > > > > > > > Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-) > > > > I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy > > with its performance.. > > > > You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much > > battery run time you need, etc... > > Note for the above comment... If money is a consideration. Don't put > your monitor on UPS. You'll last longer during an outage with a smaller > ups. > > But to the original question. I've had great luck with ACP myself. > current one is 4 years old and it survived the California Blackouts > without losing any data. > BTW: The APC site will let you plug in some generic info, processor type/speed, monitor size, etc.. and make recommendations and provide battery run times for various models based on your power needs. I'm running an pro 1100 serial and have 2 printers a 21" monitor, computer, cable modem, router, printserver and zip drive running off it. It will run the computer, monitor, and router/modem for about 30 minutes but I've got apcupsd set up to just shut the system down after like 10 minutes of no power. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 06:18, Brian V Bonini wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for > > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server. > > > > Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-) > > I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy > with its performance.. > > You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much > battery run time you need, etc... Note for the above comment... If money is a consideration. Don't put your monitor on UPS. You'll last longer during an outage with a smaller ups. But to the original question. I've had great luck with ACP myself. current one is 4 years old and it survived the California Blackouts without losing any data. James > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On 13 Jun 2003 09:18:03 -0400 Brian V Bonini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how > much battery run time you need, etc... Also be aware of any need for a line conditioner which will maintain the current voltage at a constant level. Not all UPS models will provide this. Running my network in and older home with older wiring that is my primary reason for using UPS. If I did not have them every time there was a voltage drop when the ac or someother high wattage unit started all my system would spontaneously reboot. BTW I personally use a couple of mid-range APC units and a Tripp-Lite unit. Both brands are excellent. Charles -- The best way to preserve a right is to exercise it, and the right to smoke is a right worth dying for. - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server. > Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-) I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy with its performance.. You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much battery run time you need, etc... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UPSs
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 2:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server. > > Thanks in advance for all help, > Joe Joe, I think you can't beat APC for reliability. On this box I have a Back-UPS 400 which is around 10 years old, and it still rescues me from time to time. It was originally on the server at work, but was retired due to age around 5 years ago, being replaced by a newer version of the same model. I followed a long thread on another mailing list recently, and many other people said the same sort of thing. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] UPSs
I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server. Thanks in advance for all help, Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com