[expert] Upgrade to 7.0 problems
Hello all, I have just upgraded from Mandrake 6.1 to 7.0, and almost everything still works (some things better than before). Unfortunately, when I try to run acrobat reader, or corel wordperfect I get the following error message: can't load library 'libXt.so.6' I don't get this message when I run staroffice, netscape etc. I checked for the above library and it seems to have been installed in the right places on my hard drive. I am mystified. Please help. Daniel
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
Johnthat sure brings up a question. I wonder how it impacts the commercial distributors and those folks who have already bought from them. What are the differences, especially since there have been no updates issued (I just checked) so far. Alan John Aldrich wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > Ronreally!? Where did you see this? I just checked out > > their web page and there's no announcement posted anywhere > > prominently there. > > > I just heard about a new ISO image -- 7.02. Perhaps that's > why the announcements in the ftp sites disappeared > John
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, you wrote: > Ronreally!? Where did you see this? I just checked out > their web page and there's no announcement posted anywhere > prominently there. > I just heard about a new ISO image -- 7.02. Perhaps that's why the announcements in the ftp sites disappeared John
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
Ronreally!? Where did you see this? I just checked out their web page and there's no announcement posted anywhere prominently there. Alan Ron Stodden wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Harvey B. Herman wrote: > > > I was very happy with the earlier version of Mandrake (6.5). As a > > server, it performed flawlessly for months at a time. I decided to > > upgrade to Mandrake 7.0; don't ask me why. Now, when I try to logon and > > start ppp, it says it can't authenticate the remote machine. I worked > > around by logging into root and using a noauth parm in pppd. > > This is not pleasing to me esthetically, so is there an easy fix? > > MandrakeSoft has announced that Mandrake 7.0 will not proceed to commercial > release. Quality was the given reason. > > -- > > Regards, > > Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote: > Ronwell I for one still don't understand. I read your > previous message and the message from Jeanette was in response > to that message, so she obviously didn't get it either. Where > would we have been able to see this "README.img announcement" > before its "apparent withdrawal"? Do you have a copy you can > attach or upload, so we can see what was apparently withdrawn? > I am very confused. It is all in the thread "[Cooker] 7.0 release delayed" in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Follow that thread back with your threaded email client (we all use one, don't we?). FWIW, the original README.img is below. Note that this file has now been replaced on the mirrors by another which no longer contains that final paragraph. - The following files are boot images which correct a problem in the ISO image mandrake70.iso dated Jan 12, 2000: cdrom-2.img: install from CD-ROM hd-2.img: install from hard-disk network-2.img: install from ftp/nfs/http pcmcia-2.img: install from pcmcia devices If you intend to install Linux-Mandrake from mandrake70.iso on a machine that already has Windows installed, you must start the installation process with a bootable floppy disk created from cdrom-2.img, as described in the files INSTALL and install.htm. Although a CD created from mandrake70.iso is bootable, using such a CD to start the installation may result in some cases in corruption of your Windows partition if it is resized during the installation. To use the boot floppy: 1. Place the floppy in your first floppy drive (A:) and reboot your machine. The installation procedure will be started from the floppy. 2. If prompted, select your CD-ROM drive from the list provided. 3. When prompted, insert CD #1 and continue the installation. Note: On some systems you will need to insert both the floppy and the CD together and reboot. In this case, be sure that the install starts from the floppy and not the CD. A new ISO image mandrake70-2.iso correcting the problem will be available shortly. Keeping its dedication to quality, MandrakeSoft has chosen to postpone the commercial release of its Linux-Mandrake 7.0 distribution to ensure a maximal quality for this product. --- -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
Ronwell I for one still don't understand. I read your previous message and the message from Jeanette was in response to that message, so she obviously didn't get it either. Where would we have been able to see this "README.img announcement" before its "apparent withdrawal"? Do you have a copy you can attach or upload, so we can see what was apparently withdrawn? I am very confused. Alan Ron Stodden wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Jeanette Russo wrote: > > > What do you mean it won't proceed to commercial release I was at Microcenter > > this weekend and the shelves were full of Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack? > > I refer you to my previous messages in this mailing list (please keep up to > date) on this subject, and Mandrake's apparent withdrawal yesterday of its > previous README.img announcement. > > -- > > Regards, > > Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, Phil Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Ron Stodden wrote: > > > > MandrakeSoft has announced that Mandrake 7.0 will not proceed to commercial > > release. Quality was the given reason. > > > > Where was this announced? I haven't been able to find anything to this effect > on the Mandrake web site. In the README.img file on the 7.0 updates mirrors. Since I reported it to this mailing list, this file has been updated and the announcement quietly removed. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Jeanette Russo wrote: > What do you mean it won't proceed to commercial release I was at Microcenter > this weekend and the shelves were full of Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack? I refer you to my previous messages in this mailing list (please keep up to date) on this subject, and Mandrake's apparent withdrawal yesterday of its previous README.img announcement. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Ron Stodden wrote: > > MandrakeSoft has announced that Mandrake 7.0 will not proceed to commercial > release. Quality was the given reason. > Where was this announced? I haven't been able to find anything to this effect on the Mandrake web site. Would you care to comment, Axalon? -- Phil Edwards Technical Specialist == Travellog Systems Phone +44 (0)1444 459016 The Priory, Haywards HeathFax +44 (0)1444 456655 West Sussex, RH16 3LB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] United Kingdom http://www.travellog.co.uk ==
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
Ron Stodden wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Harvey B. Herman wrote: > > > I was very happy with the earlier version of Mandrake (6.5). As a > > server, it performed flawlessly for months at a time. I decided to > > upgrade to Mandrake 7.0; don't ask me why. Now, when I try to logon and > > start ppp, it says it can't authenticate the remote machine. I worked > > around by logging into root and using a noauth parm in pppd. > > This is not pleasing to me esthetically, so is there an easy fix? > > MandrakeSoft has announced that Mandrake 7.0 will not proceed to commercial > release. Quality was the given reason. > > -- > > Regards, > > Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux. That's for the best - I've tried to install it on 3 machines, it failed on two of them and made a mess of the third. I can't wait for 7.1 though! Jack -- Last reboot caused by: moving the CD & CD-RW drives into this machine's replacement. 7:32am up 16:43, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.20, 0.50
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
What do you mean it won't proceed to commercial release I was at Microcenter this weekend and the shelves were full of Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack? Jeanette - Original Message - From: "Ron Stodden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0 > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Harvey B. Herman wrote: > > > I was very happy with the earlier version of Mandrake (6.5). As a > > server, it performed flawlessly for months at a time. I decided to > > upgrade to Mandrake 7.0; don't ask me why. Now, when I try to logon and > > start ppp, it says it can't authenticate the remote machine. I worked > > around by logging into root and using a noauth parm in pppd. > > This is not pleasing to me esthetically, so is there an easy fix? > > MandrakeSoft has announced that Mandrake 7.0 will not proceed to commercial > release. Quality was the given reason. > > -- > > Regards, > > Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux. > > >
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Harvey B. Herman wrote: > I was very happy with the earlier version of Mandrake (6.5). As a > server, it performed flawlessly for months at a time. I decided to > upgrade to Mandrake 7.0; don't ask me why. Now, when I try to logon and > start ppp, it says it can't authenticate the remote machine. I worked > around by logging into root and using a noauth parm in pppd. > This is not pleasing to me esthetically, so is there an easy fix? MandrakeSoft has announced that Mandrake 7.0 will not proceed to commercial release. Quality was the given reason. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
[expert] Upgrade to 7.0
I was very happy with the earlier version of Mandrake (6.5). As a server, it performed flawlessly for months at a time. I decided to upgrade to Mandrake 7.0; don't ask me why. Now, when I try to logon and start ppp, it says it can't authenticate the remote machine. I worked around by logging into root and using a noauth parm in pppd. This is not pleasing to me esthetically, so is there an easy fix? Harvey
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0?
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, you wrote: > I've never had the experience of "Upgrading". It seems that a complete reinstall is >recommended to eliminate the reported > anomalies. When you do a complete reinstall over a previous version, would you have >to reinstall all of the non-distro software? > Or is there a trick that would reinstate the software you had prior to the complete >reinstall? > Reinstall non-distro softwareor make backups of the relevant installed. You MAY be able to salvage your /home directory tree if it's a separate partition and not just a directory under /. John
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0?
I've never had the experience of "Upgrading". It seems that a complete reinstall is recommended to eliminate the reported anomalies. When you do a complete reinstall over a previous version, would you have to reinstall all of the non-distro software? Or is there a trick that would reinstate the software you had prior to the complete reinstall? Seve -Original Message- From: Jon Hewitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? >On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, you wrote: >> Alanif you need to ask you probably shouldn't. With that >> said, I've got to say that I'm happy I upgraded. Actually, I've >> never upgraded as I always do a full install of a new distro. I > >I can't say for sure but upgrading instead of doing an install is where most of >the folks are having their problems. I upgraded first and things went weird, >KPPP would not work etc; so I said to heck with it and made a complete fresh >install and haven't had a bit of problem. I can't beleive that the folks at >Mandrake haven't stepped in and made note of this. > > > -jon- > >> believe that's one factor that helps to eliminate at least some >> of the problems. And I never install a new release in place of >> my working system, I install it on another partitiion and slowly >> migrate over to the new version. Eventually I delete the old >> version. Here's an interesting tidbit, as of a minute ago there >> have been no updates issued yet (according to my desktop Updates >> icon), so I guess all of the reported problems must be "operator >> error" ;-) >> >> Alan >
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
you need to do an expert install if you wish to select packages individually Rachelle DuBey wrote: > My complaint is that you can't choose individual products . They all seem > to come as units - even using custom. I have no problems with xfs using > 7.0. But I miss being able to add other products such as daemons > individually. This packaging seems to be designed more for > newbies. Or is the iso image released on 1/12 just a late beta? At this > point we are trying two production machines (one an upgrade and the other a > new install) . Msec seems to shut down a few services including the ability > to telnet into a box. I fixed my earlier problem by going into drakconf and > setting security to low. However the upgrade box - didn't install drakconf. > > At 08:05 AM 1/24/00 -0800, michael chopek wrote: > >On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, alann scribed: > >=> Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. > >=> > >=> I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN > >=> OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there > >a lot of things ( > >=> bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I > >don't want to break, > >=> internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), > >=> SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these > >mainly hardware > >=> specific things or just some more work needed?? > > > >Hi Allan; > > > >If you are planning on upgrading a "production" machine to 7.0, IMHO I > >would avoid it. > > > >I upgraded to 7.0 from 6.1 exactly one week ago and in this week 7.0 > >has twice managed to bomb the "XFS" making it impossible to get into X. > > > >Friday was the first time it bombed the XFS, I reinstalled and managed > >to configure everything perfectly over the weekend...only to have it > >bomb the XFS this moring. > > > >All I did was turn the machine on and now my XFS is "dead" and so is my > >Xgrrr. :-/ > > > >So that box gets unplugged and stuck in the corner until someone can > >tell me how to fix this without a reinstall. > > > >Another *highly* annoying thing that 7.0 is doing is that you can not > >copy_&_paste from any KDE app into Netscape...what pain. > > > >I read through all the archives this weekend, regarding using > >Ctrl-C...Alt-C...it just does not work. > > > >Also for me"supermount" is a super-pain and I wound up removing > >anything that refered to "supermount" so I could get my CDRom and CDR > >working. > > > >I am a Mandrake fan and am really trying my best to give 7.0 a fair > >shake...but this XFS bombing and killing X is a major pain in the ass.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
Regarding the problems with XFS and no cut&paste between Netscape and KDE. My XFS died while running Mandrake v6.1. Upgrading to 7.0 fixed it again. And the problem with Cut&Paste between KDE and Netscape, is has always been there in my setup. I have not been able to do this in Mandrake v6.0, 6.1 and 7.0. I think this is a KDE problem (or maybe Netscape since cut&paste between KDE and every other X11 app. I have tried works fine). Regards Øystein Hermansen Norway michael chopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 24.01.2000 17:05:42 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Oeystein Hermansen/ALLIANSE/NO) Subject: Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!! On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, alann scribed: => Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. => => I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN => OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there a lot of things ( => bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I don't want to break, => internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), => SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these mainly hardware => specific things or just some more work needed?? Hi Allan; If you are planning on upgrading a "production" machine to 7.0, IMHO I would avoid it. I upgraded to 7.0 from 6.1 exactly one week ago and in this week 7.0 has twice managed to bomb the "XFS" making it impossible to get into X. Friday was the first time it bombed the XFS, I reinstalled and managed to configure everything perfectly over the weekend...only to have it bomb the XFS this moring. All I did was turn the machine on and now my XFS is "dead" and so is my Xgrrr. :-/ So that box gets unplugged and stuck in the corner until someone can tell me how to fix this without a reinstall. Another *highly* annoying thing that 7.0 is doing is that you can not copy_&_paste from any KDE app into Netscape...what pain. I read through all the archives this weekend, regarding using Ctrl-C...Alt-C...it just does not work. Also for me"supermount" is a super-pain and I wound up removing anything that refered to "supermount" so I could get my CDRom and CDR working. I am a Mandrake fan and am really trying my best to give 7.0 a fair shake...but this XFS bombing and killing X is a major pain in the ass. On many of the archives(Mandrake, Deja) I cruised this weekend there appears to be a fair number of people having this XFS trouble, so my suggestion would be too wait...unless you have too much hair and need to pull some out trying to figure this XFS thing out. - your mileage may vary - -- best regards -michael Michael Chopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Down to Earth Development Ltd - http://www.d2earth.com/ Website & Web Applications Development Selena Sol's WebWare Mail List - http://www.d2earth.com/mail_list.html
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
michaelI'm sorry, I hope you and the Mandrake staff get the xfs problem solved soon. If you'd like to talk about cut & paste, maybe there's something we can stumble on that will fix that part of your problem. Alan michael chopek wrote: > > Hi Alan; > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Alan Shoemaker scribed: > > => -michaelI just cut your signature out of the message I'm > => responding to an pasted it at he beginning here. I'm in Kedit > => and am going to paste this into my reply in netscape when I'm > => done. > > Well *for me* it just does not work.. > I tried to paste the URL out of my sig file into Netscape and it does > not work...no how. :-( > > I pasted it fine into KEdit..copied out of there and it does not work > for me. > > =>So far I really like using my floppy, cd and > zip in => supermount and have experienced no problems with the feature. > > again...for me trying to use my CDRthat had "supermount" in the > fstab entry would just not work. > > => Well, that was a success ;-) Mike, I hope you solve your > => problems. > > The copy_&_paste thing is trivial and I can/will work around it..the > supermount thing I also worked around, and used the same entries in my > fstab file as my 6.1 box where the burner works fine. so now my burner > also works fine in 7.0... > > ...but this crap with the XFS dying at will, is a royal pain in the > ass.. > > Axalon suggested to look in the /var/log/messages if after > "restarting" xfs the X server still bombed...it did and here is what > is says.. > > xfs: xfs startup successful > xfs: fatal font server error > xfs: can not establish any listening sockets > > So...what does one do to get some "sockets" listening...??? > > I have been a big supporter/advocate of Mandrake since 6.0, and just > wrote a very nice review for our local LUG about 7.0, where I was > highly complimentary...just before the thing killed xfs... > > We were going to do an install of 7.0 at our next LUG meeeting...but now > we have decided to try Storm for this round..maybe by the next meeting, > someone will have an answer for this xfs thing. > > Thanks for your input Alan..but I'm just a tad frustrated by having the > same problem crop up twice since Friday :-/ > > -- > > best regards > -michael > > Michael Chopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Down to Earth Development Ltd - http://www.d2earth.com/ > Website & Web Applications Development > Selena Sol's WebWare Mail List - http://www.d2earth.com/mail_list.html
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, you wrote: > Alanif you need to ask you probably shouldn't. With that > said, I've got to say that I'm happy I upgraded. Actually, I've > never upgraded as I always do a full install of a new distro. I I can't say for sure but upgrading instead of doing an install is where most of the folks are having their problems. I upgraded first and things went weird, KPPP would not work etc; so I said to heck with it and made a complete fresh install and haven't had a bit of problem. I can't beleive that the folks at Mandrake haven't stepped in and made note of this. -jon- > believe that's one factor that helps to eliminate at least some > of the problems. And I never install a new release in place of > my working system, I install it on another partitiion and slowly > migrate over to the new version. Eventually I delete the old > version. Here's an interesting tidbit, as of a minute ago there > have been no updates issued yet (according to my desktop Updates > icon), so I guess all of the reported problems must be "operator > error" ;-) > > Alan
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
michael chopek wrote: > I have been a big supporter/advocate of Mandrake since 6.0, and just > wrote a very nice review for our local LUG about 7.0, where I was > highly complimentary...just before the thing killed xfs... It got me too... I just hosed it & did the install Re: the Copy/pate thing, to paste from KDE to Netscape, higlight text in KDE - place cursor where you want text in Netscpe window - click both buttons did you choose "emulate 3 buttons"? if you have 3 already, click the middle one... clear the location window 1st in Netscape, if you want to paste url's N.B. thats *all* you do, if the text is not highlighted in KDE it's erased from the clipboard. Changing windows is fine, but any other operation will erase the clipboard. Warren.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, michael chopek wrote: > Another *highly* annoying thing that 7.0 is doing is that you can not > copy_&_paste from any KDE app into Netscape...what pain. > > I read through all the archives this weekend, regarding using > Ctrl-C...Alt-C...it just does not work. Hmmm, I'm not using KDE but I can copy/paste from a KDE-based app into Netscape by highlighting text and then clicking the middle mouse button to paste (instead of pressing ctrl-V or whatever). -Tom
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
My complaint is that you can't choose individual products . They all seem to come as units - even using custom. I have no problems with xfs using 7.0. But I miss being able to add other products such as daemons individually. This packaging seems to be designed more for newbies. Or is the iso image released on 1/12 just a late beta? At this point we are trying two production machines (one an upgrade and the other a new install) . Msec seems to shut down a few services including the ability to telnet into a box. I fixed my earlier problem by going into drakconf and setting security to low. However the upgrade box - didn't install drakconf. At 08:05 AM 1/24/00 -0800, michael chopek wrote: >On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, alann scribed: >=> Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. >=> >=> I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN >=> OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there >a lot of things ( >=> bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I >don't want to break, >=> internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), >=> SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these >mainly hardware >=> specific things or just some more work needed?? > >Hi Allan; > >If you are planning on upgrading a "production" machine to 7.0, IMHO I >would avoid it. > >I upgraded to 7.0 from 6.1 exactly one week ago and in this week 7.0 >has twice managed to bomb the "XFS" making it impossible to get into X. > >Friday was the first time it bombed the XFS, I reinstalled and managed >to configure everything perfectly over the weekend...only to have it >bomb the XFS this moring. > >All I did was turn the machine on and now my XFS is "dead" and so is my >Xgrrr. :-/ > >So that box gets unplugged and stuck in the corner until someone can >tell me how to fix this without a reinstall. > >Another *highly* annoying thing that 7.0 is doing is that you can not >copy_&_paste from any KDE app into Netscape...what pain. > >I read through all the archives this weekend, regarding using >Ctrl-C...Alt-C...it just does not work. > >Also for me"supermount" is a super-pain and I wound up removing >anything that refered to "supermount" so I could get my CDRom and CDR >working. > >I am a Mandrake fan and am really trying my best to give 7.0 a fair >shake...but this XFS bombing and killing X is a major pain in the ass.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
Hi Alan; On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Alan Shoemaker scribed: => -michaelI just cut your signature out of the message I'm => responding to an pasted it at he beginning here. I'm in Kedit => and am going to paste this into my reply in netscape when I'm => done. Well *for me* it just does not work.. I tried to paste the URL out of my sig file into Netscape and it does not work...no how. :-( I pasted it fine into KEdit..copied out of there and it does not work for me. =>So far I really like using my floppy, cd and zip in => supermount and have experienced no problems with the feature. again...for me trying to use my CDRthat had "supermount" in the fstab entry would just not work. => Well, that was a success ;-) Mike, I hope you solve your => problems. The copy_&_paste thing is trivial and I can/will work around it..the supermount thing I also worked around, and used the same entries in my fstab file as my 6.1 box where the burner works fine. so now my burner also works fine in 7.0... ...but this crap with the XFS dying at will, is a royal pain in the ass.. Axalon suggested to look in the /var/log/messages if after "restarting" xfs the X server still bombed...it did and here is what is says.. xfs: xfs startup successful xfs: fatal font server error xfs: can not establish any listening sockets So...what does one do to get some "sockets" listening...??? I have been a big supporter/advocate of Mandrake since 6.0, and just wrote a very nice review for our local LUG about 7.0, where I was highly complimentary...just before the thing killed xfs... We were going to do an install of 7.0 at our next LUG meeeting...but now we have decided to try Storm for this round..maybe by the next meeting, someone will have an answer for this xfs thing. Thanks for your input Alan..but I'm just a tad frustrated by having the same problem crop up twice since Friday :-/ -- best regards -michael Michael Chopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Down to Earth Development Ltd - http://www.d2earth.com/ Website & Web Applications Development Selena Sol's WebWare Mail List - http://www.d2earth.com/mail_list.html
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
-michaelI just cut your signature out of the message I'm responding to an pasted it at he beginning here. I'm in Kedit and am going to paste this into my reply in netscape when I'm done. So far I really like using my floppy, cd and zip in supermount and have experienced no problems with the feature. There have been problems, but I'm not going to go over them again as they have been covered in other messages. Now let's paste this to the reply. Well, that was a success ;-) Mike, I hope you solve your problems. Alan michael chopek wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, alann scribed: > => Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. > => > => I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN > => OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there a lot of >things ( > => bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I don't want >to break, > => internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), > => SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these mainly >hardware > => specific things or just some more work needed?? > > Hi Allan; > > If you are planning on upgrading a "production" machine to 7.0, IMHO I > would avoid it. > > I upgraded to 7.0 from 6.1 exactly one week ago and in this week 7.0 > has twice managed to bomb the "XFS" making it impossible to get into X. > > Friday was the first time it bombed the XFS, I reinstalled and managed > to configure everything perfectly over the weekend...only to have it > bomb the XFS this moring. > > All I did was turn the machine on and now my XFS is "dead" and so is my > Xgrrr. :-/ > > So that box gets unplugged and stuck in the corner until someone can > tell me how to fix this without a reinstall. > > Another *highly* annoying thing that 7.0 is doing is that you can not > copy_&_paste from any KDE app into Netscape...what pain. > > I read through all the archives this weekend, regarding using > Ctrl-C...Alt-C...it just does not work. > > Also for me"supermount" is a super-pain and I wound up removing > anything that refered to "supermount" so I could get my CDRom and CDR > working. > > I am a Mandrake fan and am really trying my best to give 7.0 a fair > shake...but this XFS bombing and killing X is a major pain in the ass. > > On many of the archives(Mandrake, Deja) I cruised this weekend there > appears to be a fair number of people having this XFS trouble, so my > suggestion would be too wait...unless you have too much hair and need > to pull some out trying to figure this XFS thing out. > > - your mileage may vary - > > -- > > best regards > -michael > > Michael Chopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Down to Earth Development Ltd - http://www.d2earth.com/ > Website & Web Applications Development > Selena Sol's WebWare Mail List - http://www.d2earth.com/mail_list.html
RE: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
Weird, about the cut and paste to/from Netscape. Mandrake 6.0 was the first distro I've actually used where that worked. SuSE 6.0 certainly didn't. Are there special compiler options that need to be enabled? Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of michael chopek Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!! On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, alann scribed: => Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. => => I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN => OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there a lot of things ( => bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I don't want to break, => internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), => SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these mainly hardware => specific things or just some more work needed?? Hi Allan; If you are planning on upgrading a "production" machine to 7.0, IMHO I would avoid it. I upgraded to 7.0 from 6.1 exactly one week ago and in this week 7.0 has twice managed to bomb the "XFS" making it impossible to get into X. Friday was the first time it bombed the XFS, I reinstalled and managed to configure everything perfectly over the weekend...only to have it bomb the XFS this moring. All I did was turn the machine on and now my XFS is "dead" and so is my Xgrrr. :-/ So that box gets unplugged and stuck in the corner until someone can tell me how to fix this without a reinstall. Another *highly* annoying thing that 7.0 is doing is that you can not copy_&_paste from any KDE app into Netscape...what pain. I read through all the archives this weekend, regarding using Ctrl-C...Alt-C...it just does not work. Also for me"supermount" is a super-pain and I wound up removing anything that refered to "supermount" so I could get my CDRom and CDR working. I am a Mandrake fan and am really trying my best to give 7.0 a fair shake...but this XFS bombing and killing X is a major pain in the ass. On many of the archives(Mandrake, Deja) I cruised this weekend there appears to be a fair number of people having this XFS trouble, so my suggestion would be too wait...unless you have too much hair and need to pull some out trying to figure this XFS thing out. - your mileage may vary - -- best regards -michael Michael Chopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Down to Earth Development Ltd - http://www.d2earth.com/ Website & Web Applications Development Selena Sol's WebWare Mail List - http://www.d2earth.com/mail_list.html
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0?
Alanif you need to ask you probably shouldn't. With that said, I've got to say that I'm happy I upgraded. Actually, I've never upgraded as I always do a full install of a new distro. I believe that's one factor that helps to eliminate at least some of the problems. And I never install a new release in place of my working system, I install it on another partitiion and slowly migrate over to the new version. Eventually I delete the old version. Here's an interesting tidbit, as of a minute ago there have been no updates issued yet (according to my desktop Updates icon), so I guess all of the reported problems must be "operator error" ;-) Alan alann wrote: > > Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. > > I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN > OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there a lot of >things ( > bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I don't want to >break, > internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), > SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these mainly hardware > specific things or just some more work needed?? > > Thanks! > Alan > > -- > == > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > running Linux Mandrake 6.1 and/or BeOS.
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0? => NO!!!
On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, alann scribed: => Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. => => I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN => OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there a lot of things ( => bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I don't want to break, => internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), => SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these mainly hardware => specific things or just some more work needed?? Hi Allan; If you are planning on upgrading a "production" machine to 7.0, IMHO I would avoid it. I upgraded to 7.0 from 6.1 exactly one week ago and in this week 7.0 has twice managed to bomb the "XFS" making it impossible to get into X. Friday was the first time it bombed the XFS, I reinstalled and managed to configure everything perfectly over the weekend...only to have it bomb the XFS this moring. All I did was turn the machine on and now my XFS is "dead" and so is my Xgrrr. :-/ So that box gets unplugged and stuck in the corner until someone can tell me how to fix this without a reinstall. Another *highly* annoying thing that 7.0 is doing is that you can not copy_&_paste from any KDE app into Netscape...what pain. I read through all the archives this weekend, regarding using Ctrl-C...Alt-C...it just does not work. Also for me"supermount" is a super-pain and I wound up removing anything that refered to "supermount" so I could get my CDRom and CDR working. I am a Mandrake fan and am really trying my best to give 7.0 a fair shake...but this XFS bombing and killing X is a major pain in the ass. On many of the archives(Mandrake, Deja) I cruised this weekend there appears to be a fair number of people having this XFS trouble, so my suggestion would be too wait...unless you have too much hair and need to pull some out trying to figure this XFS thing out. - your mileage may vary - -- best regards -michael Michael Chopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Down to Earth Development Ltd - http://www.d2earth.com/ Website & Web Applications Development Selena Sol's WebWare Mail List - http://www.d2earth.com/mail_list.html
Re: [expert] Upgrade to 7.0?
I can't speak for others but I did an upgrade of my 6.1 system that I use for just this purpose and it left me with a few little bugs like telling me I only had 64megs of ram instead of 160. Other than that it did pretty good. After this I just saved my samba.conf and did a fresh install. Then just put the samba .conf back. During install set up the modem and after install set up the lan cards. If you use an rc.masq you'll need to set that back up also. Altogether maybe a half hour work and things are going fine. On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, you wrote: al > Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. al > al > I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN al > OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there a lot of things ( al > bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I don't want to break, al > internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), al > SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these mainly hardware al > specific things or just some more work needed?? al > al > Thanks! al > Alan al > al > -- al > == al > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) al > running Linux Mandrake 6.1 and/or BeOS. -- - He must increase but I must decrease Brook Humphrey Webmaster: Thelinuxstop.com Webmaster: Webmedic.net Webmaster: Godshealingherbs.com Owner: Mobile PC Medic Holiness unto the lord
[expert] Upgrade to 7.0?
Over the past days I've seen a LOT of things cross here about 7.0. I have a wonderful working 6.1 system now, and Linux Mandrake is my MAIN OS.. I'm seeking an honest answer here. Should I upgrade, or are there a lot of things ( bugs ) creeping around.. Some of the main things I've got working I don't want to break, internet ( obviously ) using KPPP, IP masq ( letting the wife on ), SMB,.. I want to upgrade, but after the flood of messages, are these mainly hardware specific things or just some more work needed?? Thanks! Alan -- == [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) running Linux Mandrake 6.1 and/or BeOS.
