Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-25 Thread Barry Marler

Same here. Because PM 4 won't allow moving/resizing a swap partition, I
had to create another, destroy the original, then resize my other Linux
partitions.  Because of that, the new swap partition became misnumbered,
which took about 5 seconds to fix by editing /etc/fstab. 


/b

Barry Marler
Department of Medical Microbiology and Parasitology
University of Georgia
(706)542-0742
(706)542-0059 (fax)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:

 At 02:37 AM 10/25/99 +, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Currently the only way to do this in a  non-destructive way is to use
  Partition Magic 4.0 from Powerquest. 
 
 Don't do this to a linux partition though. 
 
 What, specifically, happened?  I've done this a number of times, and I
 haven't had any problems.



Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-25 Thread Ron Stodden

Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:

 Don't do this to a linux partition though. It says it can handle it
 but it's destroyed many a file on my filesystem on every occasion I
 tried
 it. I ended up reinstalling linux.

Huh?   I have PMed ext2 partitions hundreds of times on many machines, 
with never even one problem.   With PM 3.0, 4.0, 4.01. 

But!If you move a bootable Linux partition you must re-lilo it 
afterwards because the absolute disk addresses in the boot record for 
that partition will no longer be correct.

You just reboot that Linux from its floppy (you did keep it, didn't 
you?) and as superuser run lilo - it's as simple as that.

This essential information should be in the PM manual - but it is not.

Regards,
 
Ron Stodden (AU)





Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-25 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:

  Currently the only way to do this in a  non-destructive way is to use
  Partition Magic 4.0 from Powerquest. Disk drake, disk druid is
  destructive at this point. You can use fips (it is in the Mandrake CD
  DOSUTILS directory) what is non -destructive, but there is *a lot* of
  things you have to adjust before and after the resizing. PartMag
  does everything automagically. (You need to have Win or DOS
  partition or a special floppy to use this though)
 
 
 Don't do this to a linux partition though. It says it can handle it
 but it's destroyed many a file on my filesystem on every occasion I
 tried it. I ended up reinstalling linux.

Partition Magic did this to you?  I've used it to resize ext2 partitions a
number of times and it's worked like magic every single time...  shrug
Mind you, I've been using PM for a few years and it has *never* destroyed
any data for me, regardless of the filesystem involved (ext2, fat, hpfs,
and fat32 I've used it on).

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Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-24 Thread Sheldon Lee Wen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Currently the only way to do this in a  non-destructive way is to use
 Partition Magic 4.0 from Powerquest. Disk drake, disk druid is
 destructive at this point. You can use fips (it is in the Mandrake CD
 DOSUTILS directory) what is non -destructive, but there is *a lot* of
 things you have to adjust before and after the resizing. PartMag
 does everything automagically. (You need to have Win or DOS
 partition or a special floppy to use this though)


Don't do this to a linux partition though. It says it can handle it
but it's destroyed many a file on my filesystem on every occasion I
tried
it. I ended up reinstalling linux.
-- 
==
Sheldon Lee Wen 
"Superstition is a word the ignorant use to describe their ignorance."
  -- Sifu.
==



Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-24 Thread Dan Swartzendruber

At 02:37 AM 10/25/99 +, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Currently the only way to do this in a  non-destructive way is to use
 Partition Magic 4.0 from Powerquest. Disk drake, disk druid is
 destructive at this point. You can use fips (it is in the Mandrake CD
 DOSUTILS directory) what is non -destructive, but there is *a lot* of
 things you have to adjust before and after the resizing. PartMag
 does everything automagically. (You need to have Win or DOS
 partition or a special floppy to use this though)


Don't do this to a linux partition though. It says it can handle it
but it's destroyed many a file on my filesystem on every occasion I
tried
it. I ended up reinstalling linux.

What, specifically, happened?  I've done this a number of times, and I
haven't had any problems.





Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-24 Thread Alan N.

At 02:37 AM 10/25/99 +, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Currently the only way to do this in a  non-destructive way is to 
use
 Partition Magic 4.0 from Powerquest. Disk drake, disk druid is
 destructive at this point. You can use fips (it is in the Mandrake 
CD
 DOSUTILS directory) what is non -destructive, but there is *a lot* 
of
 things you have to adjust before and after the resizing. PartMag
 does everything automagically. (You need to have Win or DOS
 partition or a special floppy to use this though)


Don't do this to a linux partition though. It says it can handle it
but it's destroyed many a file on my filesystem on every occasion I
tried
it. I ended up reinstalling linux.

What, specifically, happened?  I've done this a number of times, and I
haven't had any problems.



Yea, me too.. Resized via PM 4.0.. Worked like a charm.

Been using PM since it came out for OS/2 as PM 2.0..

Love it. Need it...  Use it every 200 days or so, but always worth it..

Alan.



Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-21 Thread lakicsv

Currently the only way to do this in a  non-destructive way is to use 
Partition Magic 4.0 from Powerquest. Disk drake, disk druid is 
destructive at this point. You can use fips (it is in the Mandrake CD 
DOSUTILS directory) what is non -destructive, but there is *a lot* of 
things you have to adjust before and after the resizing. PartMag 
does everything automagically. (You need to have Win or DOS 
partition or a special floppy to use this though)

Good luck,  Viktor



Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-21 Thread Geoff Croxson

At 09:23  21/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
Currently the only way to do this in a  non-destructive way is to use 
Partition Magic 4.0 from Powerquest. 
Partition Magic 5 is about to be released, you might hold off for a little
to get old PM4 @ a reduced price, or get PM5 new


Regards

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[expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-20 Thread Vanco, Donald

Can someone point me to the correct hot-to to add a partition to an existing
system or increase the size of one of my existing partitions.  I currently
have hda1-4 and fdisk tells me I'll need to delete a current partition and
add en extended partition to get to hda5.  I've got ~3GB unallocated drive
space - I'd rather just stretch an existing partition.

Thanx
Don



Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-20 Thread Dan Swartzendruber

At 12:43 PM 10/20/99 -0400, Vanco, Donald wrote:
Can someone point me to the correct hot-to to add a partition to an existing
system or increase the size of one of my existing partitions.  I currently
have hda1-4 and fdisk tells me I'll need to delete a current partition and
add en extended partition to get to hda5.  I've got ~3GB unallocated drive
space - I'd rather just stretch an existing partition.

partition magic (under windows) will grow/shrink ext2.  i think red hat and/or
mandrake have a new unixified version (disk drake?) that will run native to
linux...




Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-20 Thread Civileme

"Vanco, Donald" wrote:

 Can someone point me to the correct hot-to to add a partition to an existing
 system or increase the size of one of my existing partitions.  I currently
 have hda1-4 and fdisk tells me I'll need to delete a current partition and
 add en extended partition to get to hda5.  I've got ~3GB unallocated drive
 space - I'd rather just stretch an existing partition.

 Thanx
 Don

Holy smoke!

Four primary partitions are all there are.  Adding one is not possible without
converting partition 4 to an extended partition and creating logical partitions
within it.
Umm. check that, the partition with the biggest track number at its end.  It IS
possible to put partition 3 after partition 4, for example, but the primary
partitions are necessarily contiguous cylinders.


Stretching one can be done by partition magic, in the commercial arena, or by
using DiskDrake.  I haven't checked the latest DiskDrake, so I do not know if
it will preserve data on an ext2 partition yet.

I would really suggest backing up your "outermost partition", then deleting it
and making an extended partition including the rest of the disk.  Following
that, you can add logical partitions to taste, and leave a portion of the
extended partition open for future dedication.

I usually do leave some vacant space ready for a logical partition on
high-capacity disks.  My reasoning is that I can do some fstab entries and copy
commands and remove commands and a few more fstab entries if I need, for
example, to split /usr into /usr and /usr/local  .  Without the spare space, if
I need to do that sort of split (as I had to do to help someone who had created
/ too small) It would proceed like this:

1. Find a partition with lotsa space

2. Create a directory /lotsa_space/unplanned_part

3. Copy the overflowing stuff to /lotsa_space/unplanned_part  (in this case, it
was /var)

4. remove /var

5.
# ln -s /lotsa_space/unplanned_part /var

Very kludgy compared to leaving a little undedicated space on an extended
partition, but then that's why linux is so neat.  There are many ways to do
things!

Civileme



Re: [expert] adding or increasing partitions

1999-10-20 Thread Civileme

Ian Douglas wrote:

  disk drake?

 Disk Druid?

 -id

DiskDrake


http://www.linux-mandrake.com/diskdrake

I still don't know if the ext2resize is data-destructive at this time.
It was at one time.

Civileme