Registrars [was: Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)]

2002-06-11 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:40:48 -0500 "J. Craig Woods"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> If you want to send mail to smtp.mandrax.org, you must first make sure
> you register your domain name, and you must then have that name in the
> address space of a dns server running on the internet (just ask Pierre
> about this...grin). 

LOL!!  What doc is alluding to:  if anyone thinks all registrars are the
same, have a look at:
http://pfortin.com/Domains
In case you miss the "support" horror story link...
http://pfortin.com/Domains/IARegistry

If anyone has a registrar story (good or bad) they'd like to see added to
my page, let me know...  Of course, if there's another registrar rating
page somewhere, let me know and I'll contribute my stuff...

So far, register.com made a couple of initial setup errors; but fixed them
immediately.  They rate a "9", and being able to use their DNS directly to
point to your own server(s) is what a registrar should be about...  well
worth the extra $$.

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-06-11 Thread J. Craig Woods

gianpaolo racca wrote:
> 
> On Saturday 01 June 2002 19:58, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> > WRONG AGAIN! The mail server, smtp.mandrax.org is not, repeat *NOT*,
> > doing a reverse dns lookup on ip addresses (please see my *many* posts
> > on this issue).
> 
> So what's the meaning of this message?
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host smtp.mandrax.org[63.209.80.243] said: 450
> Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [111.222.333.444]
> 
> my public IP has obviously been hidden

Good thing you hid that ip address. I had to move my eyeballs all the
way up to the headers to see it :-)

What smtp.mandrax.org is doing is a *FORWARD* lookup. In essence, it ran
a
"nslookup your-hostname.domain", and this is what it got:

[drjung@sherman drjung]$ nslookup simpson.preciso.net
Note:  nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead.  Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing.
Server: 192.168.0.6
Address:192.168.0.6#53

** server can't find simpson.preciso.net: NXDOMAIN

You see, you do not exist, so mandrax, rightly so, is not allowing mail
from you. You do not exist when I look you up on a dns server that is
out on the internet too:

[drjung@sherman drjung]$ nslookup -sil simpson.preciso.net 4.2.2.1
Server: 4.2.2.1
Address:4.2.2.1#53

** server can't find simpson.preciso.net: NXDOMAIN

If you want to send mail to smtp.mandrax.org, you must first make sure
you register your domain name, and you must then have that name in the
address space of a dns server running on the internet (just ask Pierre
about this...grin). Some public dns server needs to "point" to your
hostname. I might be best to read up on domains, hostnames, and dns
records.

Good luck,
drjung
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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-06-11 Thread gianpaolo racca

On Saturday 01 June 2002 19:58, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> WRONG AGAIN! The mail server, smtp.mandrax.org is not, repeat *NOT*,
> doing a reverse dns lookup on ip addresses (please see my *many* posts
> on this issue).

I investigated a little bit more on this subject, and I found a post of Wietse 
Venema (Postfix's author) that says:

== CLIP HERE ==

> said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname,
> [195.xxx.xxx.xxx])

The SMTP server is unable to find the hostname that belongs to the
IP address 195.xxx.yyy.zzz.
 
The error is temporary (450 means try again later). This probably
means that the address->hostname lookup timed out.
 
In order to fid out what DNS server is responsible for your
address->hostname information, query for:
 
dig mx yyy.xxx.195.in-addr.arpa.
 
or
 
host -t ns yyy.xxx.195.in-addr.arpa. 


So, as I noticed before, It's not only up to you to have your DNS properly 
configured, but is your ISP that has to set up a reverse zone for you.
Or am I wrong again?

bye

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-06-10 Thread Jim Tarvid

On Monday 10 June 2002 07:22 pm, you wrote:
> 450
>     Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname
postfix - reject_unknown_hostname: reject HELO hostname without DNS A or MX 
record. 

I have a lot to learn about postfix but so far I am impressed.

According to Webmin the HELO options are:

This parameter specifies optional restrictions on what SMTP clients can send 
in SMTP HELO and EHLO commands. 

The default is to permit everything. The following restrictions are 
available: 

permit_mynetworks: permit if the client address matches $mynetworks. 
reject_unknown_client: reject the request if the client hostname is unknown. 
reject_maps_rbl: reject if the client is listed under $maps_rbl_domains. 
reject_invalid_hostname: reject HELO hostname with bad syntax. 
reject_unknown_hostname: reject HELO hostname without DNS A or MX record. 
reject_non_fqdn_hostname: reject HELO hostname that is not in FQDN form 
check_helo_access maptype:mapname: look up HELO hostname or parent domains. 
Reject if result is REJECT or "[45]xx text". Permit otherwise. 
check_client_access maptype:mapname: see smtpd_client_restrictions. 
reject: reject the request. Place this at the end of a restriction. 
permit: permit the request. Place this at the end of a restriction. 
Restrictions are applied in the order as specified; the first restriction 
that matches wins. 

Specify a list of restrictions, separated by commas and/or whitespace. 
Continue long lines by starting the next line with whitespace. 

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-06-10 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:22:25 +0200 gianpaolo racca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Saturday 01 June 2002 19:58, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> > WRONG AGAIN! The mail server, smtp.mandrax.org is not, repeat *NOT*,
> > doing a reverse dns lookup on ip addresses (please see my *many* posts
> > on this issue).
> 
> So what's the meaning of this message?
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host smtp.mandrax.org[63.209.80.243] said:
> 450
> Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [111.222.333.444]

Simple...  your hostname is not known via DNS:
$ host simpson.preciso.net
Host simpson.preciso.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

> my public IP has obviously been hidden

Why do people even bother...?  headers rarely hide it...
> Received: from simpson.preciso.net (217.133.237.104)

Duh!  :^)

OK... so your next question will likely be: b-b-b-b-but, my IP is right
there!??

Yup; but *this* message was forwarded by mail-8.tiscalinet.it
[195.130.225.154] which doesn't have a "reject_unknown_client" rule (see
http://www.postfix.org/uce.html#smtpd_client_restrictions)... so
mail-8.tiscalinet.it got the message from 217.133.237.104 which identified
itself via EHLO as simpson.preciso.net and never bothered to verify it... 
when the msg was forwarded on to mandrake, they verified
mail-8.tiscalinet.it which...  tada!

$ host mail-8.tiscalinet.it
mail-8.tiscalinet.it has address 195.130.225.154

returns the same IP it just connected to mandrake with...

OK Craig, back into your court...  LOL

Pierre



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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-06-10 Thread gianpaolo racca

On Saturday 01 June 2002 19:58, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> WRONG AGAIN! The mail server, smtp.mandrax.org is not, repeat *NOT*,
> doing a reverse dns lookup on ip addresses (please see my *many* posts
> on this issue).

So what's the meaning of this message?

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host smtp.mandrax.org[63.209.80.243] said: 450
Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [111.222.333.444]

my public IP has obviously been hidden

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-06-01 Thread J. Craig Woods

gianpaolo racca wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday 28 May 2002 19:32, daRcmaTTeR wrote:
> 
> > what you're going to have to do make your postfix server reverse dns-able.
> > the servers running the list won't accept mail from servers unless they
> > can do successful reverse lookups on them. I had the same problem until
> > three things happened. I got a cable connection that allows me a static
> > IP, I set up dns and reverse lookup, and I started using NAT so that all
> > the packets leaving my boxes all get the gateway's ip address. I don't
> > know that the third one has anything to do with all this, but it helps me
> > feel better about all the other stuff.
> 
> Unfortunately, I think that being fully reverse-dnsable is not up to you only,
> but to your provider who holds your ip block.
> I can be wrong (and I'd like to be, because I have this problem too).
> 

WRONG AGAIN! The mail server, smtp.mandrax.org is not, repeat *NOT*,
doing a reverse dns lookup on ip addresses (please see my *many* posts
on this issue).

drjung

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-06-01 Thread gianpaolo racca

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 19:32, daRcmaTTeR wrote:

> what you're going to have to do make your postfix server reverse dns-able.
> the servers running the list won't accept mail from servers unless they
> can do successful reverse lookups on them. I had the same problem until
> three things happened. I got a cable connection that allows me a static
> IP, I set up dns and reverse lookup, and I started using NAT so that all
> the packets leaving my boxes all get the gateway's ip address. I don't
> know that the third one has anything to do with all this, but it helps me
> feel better about all the other stuff.

Unfortunately, I think that being fully reverse-dnsable is not up to you only, 
but to your provider who holds your ip block.
I can be wrong (and I'd like to be, because I have this problem too).

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-29 Thread daRcmaTTeR

Bill! don't keep us suspense man! where's the URL brudda?

Mark

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Bill wrote:

> Heres a URL I use to checkout DNS problems. Itsa not the best out there but I 
> fixed my email problems by using this. It lets you input your domain and does 
> a check on alot of stuff and point out errors and warnings. 
> 
> Let me tell ya your dns is way screwed up!
> 
> 




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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-29 Thread Bill

Forgot the url http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mj/sleuth/

On Star Date Wednesday 29 May 2002 06:32 am, Bill sent this sub-space 
message. 
 
> Heres a URL I use to checkout DNS problems. Itsa not the best out there but
> I fixed my email problems by using this. It lets you input your domain and
> does a check on alot of stuff and point out errors and warnings.
>
> Let me tell ya your dns is way screwed up!



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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-29 Thread Bill

Heres a URL I use to checkout DNS problems. Itsa not the best out there but I 
fixed my email problems by using this. It lets you input your domain and does 
a check on alot of stuff and point out errors and warnings. 

Let me tell ya your dns is way screwed up!



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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-29 Thread J. Craig Woods

James wrote:
> 
> if I do dig
> 
> dig ravenhome.homelinux.net
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.0 <<>> ravenhome.homelinux.net
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6990
> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;ravenhome.homelinux.net.   IN  A
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> homelinux.net.  1800IN  SOA ns1.dyndns.org. 
>hostmaster.dyndns.org.
> 2001577709 10800 1800 604800 1800
> 
> ;; Query time: 144 msec
> ;; SERVER: 216.148.227.68#53(216.148.227.68)
> ;; WHEN: Tue May 28 21:06:36 2002
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 102
>

Take note, Praedor. There is no "ANSWER SECTION" in the dig that James
ran. This means your host name does not exist.
 
> if I do host
> 
> host ravenhome.homlinux.net
> Host ravenhome.homlinux.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

This confirms that your host is not found. This is not a Mandrake
listserver problem. This is a problem with your dns setup. Whoever is
running the dns address space for your host has *not* set it up
correctly. There are *no* dns servers pointing to your host name. You
will have problems sending email to a lot of addresses until you get
this corrected.  

drjung

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-28 Thread James

On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:02:18 -0700
"JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Praedor,
> 
> Did Yahoo recently change something on their side? I was thinking
> about buying their POP/SMTP access but I won't if it doesn't support
> KMail anymore. I know they used to support KMail as a few months ago I
> set up Kmail to use their servers and it worked just fine. Then they
> started charging and I haven't yet gotten around to re-setting things
> up...
> 
> David

  What makes this almost commical is that they run on FreeBSD.  *sigh*
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Praedor Tempus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:41 AM
> To: Expert
> Subject: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)
> 
> 
> Until about a week-and-a-half ago, I had no problems
> receiving or posting messages to the list.  Since
> then, I find I am no longer able to post, only
> receive.  
> 
> I cannot post to the group through the yahoo smtp
> server - it ONLY supports Netscape mail, eudora, and
> so forth, with authentication on the outbound send. 
> This means you cannot use kmail or virtually any other
> mail app in linux if you use yahoo (I will be dropping
> them as soon as my paid term is up - the losers).  In
> any case, I have long had no problems using local
> postfix to send email to this list and several others.
>  It even worked up to about a week or so ago.  Since
> then, however, anytime I try to send a message to the
> list, the mandrax.com smtp server refuses to accept my
> mailings claiming that my domain doesn't exist.
> 
> I OWN ravenhome.homelinux.net.  It IS a legit domain. 
> I have been using it for months without problem and
> even up to 2 weeks ago.  I have kept it updated in the
> dns system via dynamicdns (dydns.org) using ddclient
> to autoupdate the dydns nameservers (and then have it
> propagate out from there).  The main problem now is
> that I used to have a DSL connection at home with a
> longterm IP (dynamic, but the term was long) and would
> also receive a nearly static IP from work.  Now, I am
> stuck with a horrific dialup and thus only receive my
> IP for relatively short periods.
> 
> This appear OK until suddenly I am no longer able to
> post to this list (or others) because the listservers
> don't like my so-called 'nonexistent' domain associate
> with my postfix mailserver.  
> 
> What does it take to post here using postfix under my
> new circumstances.  I cannot use the yahoo servers and
> I simply refuse to do what I am doing now (using the
> yahoo web interface) for ANYTHING but emergencies and
> intractable problems.  The best fix would be for the
> listserver to accept mail from my domain
> "ravenhome.homelinux.net" and quit rejecting my
> messages.
> 
> Anyone?  
> 
> praedor
> 
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> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-28 Thread James

On Tue, 28 May 2002 12:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
"Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Praedor Tempus said:
> > Until about a week-and-a-half ago, I had no problems
> > receiving or
> posting messages to the list.  Since
> > then, I find I am no longer able to post, only
> >
> receive.
> >
> > I cannot post to the group through the yahoo smtp
> > server - it ONLY supports
> Netscape mail, eudora, and
> > so forth, with authentication on the outbound send.
> > This
> means you cannot use kmail or virtually any other
> > mail app in linux if you use yahoo (I will
> be dropping
> > them as soon as my paid term is up - the losers).  In
> > any case, I have long had no
> problems using local
> > postfix to send email to this list and several others.
> > It even
> worked up to about a week or so ago.  Since
> > then, however, anytime I try to send a message to
> the
> > list, the mandrax.com smtp server refuses to accept my
> > mailings claiming that my
> domain doesn't exist.
> >
> > I OWN ravenhome.homelinux.net.  It IS a legit domain.
> > I have
> been using it for months without problem and
> > even up to 2 weeks ago.  I have kept it updated in
> the
> > dns system via dynamicdns (dydns.org) using ddclient
> > to autoupdate the dydns
> nameservers (and then have it
> > propagate out from there).  The main problem now is
> > that I
> used to have a DSL connection at home with a
> > longterm IP (dynamic, but the term was long) and
> would
> > also receive a nearly static IP from work.  Now, I am
> > stuck with a horrific dialup
> and thus only receive my
> > IP for relatively short periods.
> >
> > This appear OK until
> suddenly I am no longer able to
> > post to this list (or others) because the listservers
> >
> don't like my so-called 'nonexistent' domain associate
> > with my postfix mailserver.
> >
> 
> > What does it take to post here using postfix under my
> > new circumstances.  I cannot use
> the yahoo servers and
> > I simply refuse to do what I am doing now (using the
> > yahoo web
> interface) for ANYTHING but emergencies and
> > intractable problems.  The best fix would be
> for the
> > listserver to accept mail from my domain
> > "ravenhome.homelinux.net" and quit
> rejecting my
> > messages.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > praedor
> >
> # host -t MX
> ravenhome.homelinux.net
> Host ravenhome.homelinux.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
> #
> host ravenhome.homelinux.net
> Host ravenhome.homelinux.net not found:
> 3(NXDOMAIN)
> 
> This could be the problem.

if I do dig 

dig ravenhome.homelinux.net

; <<>> DiG 9.2.0 <<>> ravenhome.homelinux.net
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6990
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ravenhome.homelinux.net.   IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
homelinux.net.  1800IN  SOA ns1.dyndns.org. hostmaster.dyndns.org.
2001577709 10800 1800 604800 1800

;; Query time: 144 msec
;; SERVER: 216.148.227.68#53(216.148.227.68)
;; WHEN: Tue May 28 21:06:36 2002
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 102


if I do host

host ravenhome.homlinux.net
Host ravenhome.homlinux.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

It's some additional info maybe someone who understands DNS better than
I can offer a cogent explanation.  But it does seem that something in
the DNS for ravenhome has gotten lost or broken.  I'd contact the people
at dyndns.org since you are using them and ask what is going on and how
you can work together to correct it.  They have a rep for being helpful
so. use it.  I think it's their glitch not yours.  

James

> 
> 
> 
> 



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RE: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-28 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 13:02, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
> 
> Praedor,
> 
> Did Yahoo recently change something on their side? I was thinking about
> buying their POP/SMTP access but I won't if it doesn't support KMail
> anymore. 

Actually that's backwards.  KMail no longer supports yahoo.  What yahoo
did was enable password smtp authentication.  This feature is not
available in KMail.  This caused me to change from Kmail to Evolution as
my email client...not a bad move, I had been considering it anyway. 
Evolution supports smtp password authentication, plus a few others, you
see.

After the wild horses dragged me over to Evolution, I found it to
actually be a better client.  As long as they don't require gnome-core
in order to install it, I'll be happy.

> I know they used to support KMail as a few months ago I set up
> Kmail to use their servers and it worked just fine. Then they started
> charging and I haven't yet gotten around to re-setting things up...
> 
> David

Now, here's what happened.  First they changed smtp from no
authentication to password authentication.  That chopped out a few users
who were unwilling to change their email clients.  Next they gave a
warning to everyone that they were about to start charging for POP email
access, two or so months ahead of time.  As long as you did it before
April or may something, it was 19.00 a year.  That's about $1.58 a
month.  For users signing on after that date, I don't know what the
price was.  But the bottom line is that POP access is available for an
affordable price.  Well...I considered it affordable, taking into
consideration that I've had this address for over 6 years and I did'nt
want to lose it.  If it goes up again tho, I'm moving. And damn the
address.

LX

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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-28 Thread Brian

Praedor Tempus said:
> Until about a week-and-a-half ago, I had no problems
> receiving or
posting messages to the list.  Since
> then, I find I am no longer able to post, only
>
receive.
>
> I cannot post to the group through the yahoo smtp
> server - it ONLY supports
Netscape mail, eudora, and
> so forth, with authentication on the outbound send.
> This
means you cannot use kmail or virtually any other
> mail app in linux if you use yahoo (I will
be dropping
> them as soon as my paid term is up - the losers).  In
> any case, I have long had no
problems using local
> postfix to send email to this list and several others.
> It even
worked up to about a week or so ago.  Since
> then, however, anytime I try to send a message to
the
> list, the mandrax.com smtp server refuses to accept my
> mailings claiming that my
domain doesn't exist.
>
> I OWN ravenhome.homelinux.net.  It IS a legit domain.
> I have
been using it for months without problem and
> even up to 2 weeks ago.  I have kept it updated in
the
> dns system via dynamicdns (dydns.org) using ddclient
> to autoupdate the dydns
nameservers (and then have it
> propagate out from there).  The main problem now is
> that I
used to have a DSL connection at home with a
> longterm IP (dynamic, but the term was long) and
would
> also receive a nearly static IP from work.  Now, I am
> stuck with a horrific dialup
and thus only receive my
> IP for relatively short periods.
>
> This appear OK until
suddenly I am no longer able to
> post to this list (or others) because the listservers
>
don't like my so-called 'nonexistent' domain associate
> with my postfix mailserver.
>

> What does it take to post here using postfix under my
> new circumstances.  I cannot use
the yahoo servers and
> I simply refuse to do what I am doing now (using the
> yahoo web
interface) for ANYTHING but emergencies and
> intractable problems.  The best fix would be
for the
> listserver to accept mail from my domain
> "ravenhome.homelinux.net" and quit
rejecting my
> messages.
>
> Anyone?
>
> praedor
>
# host -t MX
ravenhome.homelinux.net
Host ravenhome.homelinux.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
#
host ravenhome.homelinux.net
Host ravenhome.homelinux.net not found:
3(NXDOMAIN)

This could be the problem.





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Re: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-28 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 28 May 2002, Praedor Tempus wrote:

> Until about a week-and-a-half ago, I had no problems
> receiving or posting messages to the list.  Since
> then, I find I am no longer able to post, only
> receive.  
> 
> I cannot post to the group through the yahoo smtp
> server - it ONLY supports Netscape mail, eudora, and
> so forth, with authentication on the outbound send. 
> This means you cannot use kmail or virtually any other
> mail app in linux if you use yahoo (I will be dropping
> them as soon as my paid term is up - the losers).  In
> any case, I have long had no problems using local
> postfix to send email to this list and several others.
>  It even worked up to about a week or so ago.  Since
> then, however, anytime I try to send a message to the
> list, the mandrax.com smtp server refuses to accept my
> mailings claiming that my domain doesn't exist.
> 
> I OWN ravenhome.homelinux.net.  It IS a legit domain. 
> I have been using it for months without problem and
> even up to 2 weeks ago.  I have kept it updated in the
> dns system via dynamicdns (dydns.org) using ddclient
> to autoupdate the dydns nameservers (and then have it
> propagate out from there).  The main problem now is
> that I used to have a DSL connection at home with a
> longterm IP (dynamic, but the term was long) and would
> also receive a nearly static IP from work.  Now, I am
> stuck with a horrific dialup and thus only receive my
> IP for relatively short periods.
> 
> This appear OK until suddenly I am no longer able to
> post to this list (or others) because the listservers
> don't like my so-called 'nonexistent' domain associate
> with my postfix mailserver.  
> 
> What does it take to post here using postfix under my
> new circumstances.  I cannot use the yahoo servers and
> I simply refuse to do what I am doing now (using the
> yahoo web interface) for ANYTHING but emergencies and
> intractable problems.  The best fix would be for the
> listserver to accept mail from my domain
> "ravenhome.homelinux.net" and quit rejecting my
> messages.
> 
> Anyone?  
> 
> praedor
> 

Praedor,

what you're going to have to do make your postfix server reverse dns-able. 
the servers running the list won't accept mail from servers unless they 
can do successful reverse lookups on them. I had the same problem until 
three things happened. I got a cable connection that allows me a static 
IP, I set up dns and reverse lookup, and I started using NAT so that all 
the packets leaving my boxes all get the gateway's ip address. I don't 
know that the third one has anything to do with all this, but it helps me 
feel better about all the other stuff.

Mark





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RE: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-28 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)


Praedor,

Did Yahoo recently change something on their side? I was thinking about
buying their POP/SMTP access but I won't if it doesn't support KMail
anymore. I know they used to support KMail as a few months ago I set up
Kmail to use their servers and it worked just fine. Then they started
charging and I haven't yet gotten around to re-setting things up...

David



-Original Message-
From: Praedor Tempus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:41 AM
To: Expert
Subject: [expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)


Until about a week-and-a-half ago, I had no problems
receiving or posting messages to the list.  Since
then, I find I am no longer able to post, only
receive.  

I cannot post to the group through the yahoo smtp
server - it ONLY supports Netscape mail, eudora, and
so forth, with authentication on the outbound send. 
This means you cannot use kmail or virtually any other
mail app in linux if you use yahoo (I will be dropping
them as soon as my paid term is up - the losers).  In
any case, I have long had no problems using local
postfix to send email to this list and several others.
 It even worked up to about a week or so ago.  Since
then, however, anytime I try to send a message to the
list, the mandrax.com smtp server refuses to accept my
mailings claiming that my domain doesn't exist.

I OWN ravenhome.homelinux.net.  It IS a legit domain. 
I have been using it for months without problem and
even up to 2 weeks ago.  I have kept it updated in the
dns system via dynamicdns (dydns.org) using ddclient
to autoupdate the dydns nameservers (and then have it
propagate out from there).  The main problem now is
that I used to have a DSL connection at home with a
longterm IP (dynamic, but the term was long) and would
also receive a nearly static IP from work.  Now, I am
stuck with a horrific dialup and thus only receive my
IP for relatively short periods.

This appear OK until suddenly I am no longer able to
post to this list (or others) because the listservers
don't like my so-called 'nonexistent' domain associate
with my postfix mailserver.  

What does it take to post here using postfix under my
new circumstances.  I cannot use the yahoo servers and
I simply refuse to do what I am doing now (using the
yahoo web interface) for ANYTHING but emergencies and
intractable problems.  The best fix would be for the
listserver to accept mail from my domain
"ravenhome.homelinux.net" and quit rejecting my
messages.

Anyone?  

praedor

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[expert] can no longer post (without undue pain)

2002-05-28 Thread Praedor Tempus

Until about a week-and-a-half ago, I had no problems
receiving or posting messages to the list.  Since
then, I find I am no longer able to post, only
receive.  

I cannot post to the group through the yahoo smtp
server - it ONLY supports Netscape mail, eudora, and
so forth, with authentication on the outbound send. 
This means you cannot use kmail or virtually any other
mail app in linux if you use yahoo (I will be dropping
them as soon as my paid term is up - the losers).  In
any case, I have long had no problems using local
postfix to send email to this list and several others.
 It even worked up to about a week or so ago.  Since
then, however, anytime I try to send a message to the
list, the mandrax.com smtp server refuses to accept my
mailings claiming that my domain doesn't exist.

I OWN ravenhome.homelinux.net.  It IS a legit domain. 
I have been using it for months without problem and
even up to 2 weeks ago.  I have kept it updated in the
dns system via dynamicdns (dydns.org) using ddclient
to autoupdate the dydns nameservers (and then have it
propagate out from there).  The main problem now is
that I used to have a DSL connection at home with a
longterm IP (dynamic, but the term was long) and would
also receive a nearly static IP from work.  Now, I am
stuck with a horrific dialup and thus only receive my
IP for relatively short periods.

This appear OK until suddenly I am no longer able to
post to this list (or others) because the listservers
don't like my so-called 'nonexistent' domain associate
with my postfix mailserver.  

What does it take to post here using postfix under my
new circumstances.  I cannot use the yahoo servers and
I simply refuse to do what I am doing now (using the
yahoo web interface) for ANYTHING but emergencies and
intractable problems.  The best fix would be for the
listserver to accept mail from my domain
"ravenhome.homelinux.net" and quit rejecting my
messages.

Anyone?  

praedor

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