Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-16 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 16 August 2003 01:25 am, David E. Fox wrote:

 That's precisely what I'm trying to do. BTW, the xmms-diskwriter thingy
 worked fine - I just su over, run cdrecord and give him all the wav
 files. I'm the proud owner of a new Ween CD :).

 Now I'm getting kiss alive II :) guess I'll be up all night :).
 Originally this was a double lp. Maybe it'll all fit on one CD.

Hey, a Kiss fan?! Me too! My cousin and I saw the final (reunited with 
Peter) tour in Louisville a couple of years ago. Awesome stuff!

 I don't think I can find fault with that method. What I am looking for
 is an easier way to automate much of the background processing, and when
 burning a set of mp3s in wav for cd, making sure I can fit the # of mp3
 files to the CD, and not run out of room. It's simpler of course to do
 that in a GUI.

Umm, its 70 mins for audio, right? I use Gcombusts screen to tell how many WAV 
files I can get on a 700 mb CD. It tells size and minutes, from the screen 
where you are adding files from.

 I like cdbakeoven's interface btw. It'll keep track of the time your
 tracks use as well as give you an indication of how much space you've
 wasted.

Well, like I mentioned, Gcombust does that as well.

See ya later! :-)

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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-16 Thread David E. Fox
 Hey, a Kiss fan?! Me too! My cousin and I saw the final (reunited with 
 Peter) tour in Louisville a couple of years ago. Awesome stuff!

Kinda sorta. I had friends who were into it, I haven't listened to them
since vinyl days, but it brings back memories. I have a couple of kiss
cd's - one unplugged that is rather nice, and 'kiss my ass' featuring
covers of different people (garth brooks etc.) doing the songs. That one
is pretty good, and there are some interesting variants, including a 6/8
time rendition of rock and roll all nite that actually sounds better
than the original version (in 4/4 time).

led zep is like that too - encomium features a number of new rock
artists playing classic LZ. It features probably the wierdest rendition
of custard pie I've ever heard :). Plus last weekend I ripped dread
zezpelin - now that's really weird. kinda reggae / dance music versions
:).

 
 Umm, its 70 mins for audio, right? I use Gcombusts screen to tell how many WAV 

Yeah, 74 but kiss alive ii fit just fine on a 74 min. Bet the cd version
is marketed as a 2 disk version though. What a ripoff :(.

One can supposedly calculate the required size from the wav file size,
of course, so awk (probably) to the rescue ;).

A little aside - if file would just say this is a 44.1khz file that is
so many mins and seconds' or another quickie tool, that would be a good
thing. Otherwise I could hover the mouse on an mp3 in konqueror and get
the timings. But that's not always the case.

I guess I'll have to give gcombust another try. My experience hasn't
been all that successful for the type of stuff (namely, other than
44.1khz stereo mp3s) I've been putting on CDs.

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[expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
Hello - 

In a prior post (subject K3b  cdwriter) I explained the method I use
for decoding mp3s to wav files so I can make a CD from them. I mentioned
that I was planning on scrapping this because mpg123 fails to play the
file(s) in question. So (presumably) decoding via mpg123 is not an
option here.

What I subsequently found -- mplayer to the rescue. At least mplayer
will play them when mpg123 refuses to do so. I also tried lame to decode
one of these files, and the result is a segmentation fault preceded by
a number of unsupported messages relating to bitstream resyncing and
frequency changes. The process (in comparison with mpg123 piping to sox)
is *significantly* slower. 

I'm thinking along the lines if mplayer can play it, it should be able
to decode it. mplayer -streamdump file dumps core. :( And the
(incomplete) dumped stream is in mp3 format. Somehow I don't think it's
going to work.

I imagine folks here have tried this before. Any help?



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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:33 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
 Hello -

 In a prior post (subject K3b  cdwriter) I explained the method I use
 for decoding mp3s to wav files so I can make a CD from them. I mentioned
 that I was planning on scrapping this because mpg123 fails to play the
 file(s) in question. So (presumably) decoding via mpg123 is not an
 option here.

David - I missed that thread (well, actually I just didn't follow it - I use 
Gcombust without problem here). Anyways, have you tried the diskwriter plugin 
with XMMS to see if the resulting WAV file is acceptable for you to use?

Just a thought... :-)

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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
 
 David - I missed that thread (well, actually I just didn't follow it - I use 
 Gcombust without problem here). Anyways, have you tried the diskwriter plugin 

I'm going to give gcombust another try. Specifically, did you see my
comment about it making data copies of the mp3s rather than doing the
decoding? I'm pretty sure I selected audio cd and not data cd.


 with XMMS to see if the resulting WAV file is acceptable for you to use?

I installed it, and configured it, but I'm not sure that it's convenient
from an automation standpoint. I'll try and see if I can just select all
the files and run them through en masse with xmms-diskwriter.

Seems like it might actually work. I added the files and selected the
diskwriter and it's a disk writin' :)


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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 16 August 2003 12:53 am, David E. Fox wrote:

 I'm going to give gcombust another try. Specifically, did you see my
 comment about it making data copies of the mp3s rather than doing the
 decoding? I'm pretty sure I selected audio cd and not data cd.

If you mean pick .MP3 and wind up with an audio track on your disk in one fell 
swoop...well, I've never tried that. I always converted a bunch of MP3s with 
the diskwriter plugin in XMMS, then ran normalize on them to equal everything 
out, then used Gcombust to burn them as audio tracks to disk. (BTW, this 
process was passed on to me by the venerable Tom Brinkman, to give credit 
where credit is due!). :-)

 I installed it, and configured it, but I'm not sure that it's convenient
 from an automation standpoint. I'll try and see if I can just select all
 the files and run them through en masse with xmms-diskwriter.

 Seems like it might actually work. I added the files and selected the
 diskwriter and it's a disk writin' :)

Yes, I can pick individual viles, groups, or whole directories with it. Very 
handy, just change the audio i/o to diskwriter, make your selection, hit play 
and boom! hey-presto! instant WAV file.

Hope this helped ya!

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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
 If you mean pick .MP3 and wind up with an audio track on your disk in one fell 
 swoop...well, I've never tried that. I always converted a bunch of MP3s with 

That's precisely what I'm trying to do. BTW, the xmms-diskwriter thingy
worked fine - I just su over, run cdrecord and give him all the wav
files. I'm the proud owner of a new Ween CD :).

Now I'm getting kiss alive II :) guess I'll be up all night :).
Originally this was a double lp. Maybe it'll all fit on one CD.

 the diskwriter plugin in XMMS, then ran normalize on them to equal everything 
 out, then used Gcombust to burn them as audio tracks to disk. (BTW, this 

I don't think I can find fault with that method. What I am looking for
is an easier way to automate much of the background processing, and when
burning a set of mp3s in wav for cd, making sure I can fit the # of mp3
files to the CD, and not run out of room. It's simpler of course to do
that in a GUI.

I like cdbakeoven's interface btw. It'll keep track of the time your
tracks use as well as give you an indication of how much space you've
wasted. 

For much of what I've been recording, straight mp3 to wav conversion
proves effective since I'm just burning single radio shows (OTR) to the
cd. But I have a couple where I think I could get 2 or maybe three on 1
cd and being sure I don't run out of room helps. I don't want to try
overburn jsut yet :). These aren't typical 44.1k stereo things; that's
where the sampling rate needs to match in the decoding process. 


 Yes, I can pick individual viles, groups, or whole directories with it. Very 
 handy, just change the audio i/o to diskwriter, make your selection, hit play 

Ok... yes, as I tried that, it works just fine. I'll have to remember to
do that - especially when confronted with vbr's in the future.


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