Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

1999-11-25 Thread Denis Havlik

:~Has anyone else killed 'amd'  permanently and lived to tell the tale !!

I have been using both "amd" and "autofs" since the "autofs" came to life,
and i can assure you that "autofs" runs much more reliably than amd.

Therefore, I use autofs to mount "homes" (every machine exports its home
directory to "thrusted-hosts" netgroup, and autofs mounts all the "home"
directories it can see to /homes/MACHINE). Basically, these "homes"
directories have never given me any headache.

Then, I had to add an user whose home-directory came from completely
different system, and it was not exported as "home", but as
"home/MACHINE", or so - and I thought - what the hell, I will just give
him a "/net/MACHINE/home/MACHINE"  path to his home-directory and forget
about it. Guess what? Several days later, amd got stuck and a few days of
calculations were gone. This happened repeatedly, so i had to add a rule
to "autofs" config file and everything works OK since then.

I still keep "amd" running with default settings, because i cannot bring
the "autofs" to mount "anything" under "/net" the way amd does (anybody
knows how to do it), but I do not use it for anything crytical anymore. 

:~The auto-mount of amd is not necessary but I take it that means I would
:~have to manually 'mount' each file system/partition ? My brain is tired
:~again so bear with me 
:~if this is all common knowledge...???

Either that, or you mount everything from "fstab" or you let the "autofs"
do it.

cu
Denis
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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

1999-11-24 Thread WH Bouterse

I will certainly try that next time this happens?

I have never had a inetd daemon die before. 
I would be curious what the causative factors might be.?
I recently "commented in" everything and could this be the problem?
What to open up without too many security risks?

This is pretty much a 24/7 , static IP cable-modem connection.

Thanks for the idea:-)

William Bouterse
Juneau, Alaska



Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

1999-11-24 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, WH Bouterse wrote:

 I will certainly try that next time this happens?
 
 I have never had a inetd daemon die before. 

maybe it wasn't dead, it does do throttleing based upon load.

 I would be curious what the causative factors might be.?

kill -9 7167 
"oh s**t, didn't that "ps ax|grep blah" say 7176 ahh poop", been there
done that more than i'd like to admit.

 I recently "commented in" everything and could this be the problem?

Yes but not so likely

 What to open up without too many security risks?

 open only what you need, and only to who you need via firewall rules
The first thing I would do would be kill amd, i've yet to see a use for it
that justifies the risks
 
 This is pretty much a 24/7 , static IP cable-modem connection.
 
 Thanks for the idea:-)
 
 William Bouterse
 Juneau, Alaska
 

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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

1999-11-24 Thread Civileme

WH Bouterse wrote:

 I too have seen a recent reawakening of the dreaded netscape induced
 'ld-linux.so '  with 95% CPU usage.

 L-M 6.1,  netscape-common-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm and
 netscape-communicator-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm installed

 This will cause netscape to basically cease to be usable at times, yet
 at other times it is merely a brief hiccup and usage is restored.

 At the same time I have noticed something perhaps not related but...???

 Netscape hangs, I 'kill' it try again no luck, suddenly cannot telnet,
 ftp etc
 "no connection to host" appears;

 'ifconfig' shows everything functioning "A-Okay"

 I reboot: system seems to hang on 'AMD' initializing then after 5
 minutes says "OK"
 System still exhibits the same problem???

 I reboot into M$ and everything is working fine (with a knowing smile
 from my wife)

 I reboot into L-M 6.1 again , no AMD hiccup, everything works fine !!!

 What in the "HAPPY HACKING" is going on !!!??? Is my system Haunted  ???

 This has been the most "challenging" version of Linux I have ever used,
 or perhaps;
 I know just enough to get into trouble !!??? :-)

 William Bouterse
 Juneau, Alaska

I have not seen such problems with 6.1, but then I decided the upgrade to
Netscape 4.7 wasn't worth it, and stuck with 4.61.

Browsers have been an annoyance for a while, for me.  If anyone knows a lot
about the modern requirements of HTML and plug-ins (but not a Christmas
Tree of Browser, Composer, Mailer and ready-made pop-up access for the ad
agencies) and is willing to lead a project, email me.  I have some time for
coding, and there are a couple of projects which could be picked up from an
older state.


Civileme




Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

1999-11-24 Thread alann

WH Bouterse wrote:
 
 I too have seen a recent reawakening of the dreaded netscape induced
 'ld-linux.so '  with 95% CPU usage.
 
 L-M 6.1,  netscape-common-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm and
 netscape-communicator-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm installed
 
 This will cause netscape to basically cease to be usable at times, yet
 at other times it is merely a brief hiccup and usage is restored.
 
 At the same time I have noticed something perhaps not related but...???
 
 Netscape hangs, I 'kill' it try again no luck, suddenly cannot telnet,
 ftp etc
 "no connection to host" appears;
 

Yea, me too. thats what got me on this topic.

How are you "killing" it?

Top or Process commander??

THis won't do it.

In a terminal:

killall -9 netscape-communicator

This will fix it.
Then restart Nutscrape.



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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

1999-11-24 Thread Sheldon Lee Wen


 I have not seen such problems with 6.1, but then I decided the upgrade to
 Netscape 4.7 wasn't worth it, and stuck with 4.61.

I'm on 6.1 and still using the old netscape and I have this problem
occassionally
too.

Sheldon.
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"Superstition is a word the ignorant use to describe their ignorance."
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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

1999-11-24 Thread WH Bouterse

Looking at 'top'
switching to ps ax
then
kill -9 PID # is usually what I have done. 
Also sometimes kill -9 PID # of 'ld-linux.so'
However I am about to go back to the previous version if this keeps up.
Or maybe some of you coder-gurus can get together with Civileme and cook
something up!

"To Kill or not to Kill, that is the question !!??"

I like that idea . However Axalon or any of you other folks "out
there"..
Has anyone else killed 'amd'  permanently and lived to tell the tale !!
I have never paid much attention to mounting and unmounting files
systems
except for /dev/cdrom or maybe /dev/fd0 etc. I guess thanks to amd,
So from what yu are saying
The auto-mount of amd is not necessary but I take it that means I would
have to manually 'mount' each file system/partition ? My brain is tired
again so bear with me 
if this is all common knowledge...???

I have buggered-up or should I say "have contributed toward greater
bugginess"
of my L-M 6.1 system, so often these last couple months that it seems,
every time I attempt to "Fix" one thing two other things screw up.

Ah Well I love Linux anyway !!!

William "the unrepentent" Bouterse
Juneau, Alaska