Re: [expert] printer woes
On 26-Aug-2001 Bruce E. Harris wrote: > Gregor, > > Problems persist. I think I have the symbolic links right, but when I start > printtool it does not see my printer, when I try detect I get this error > "Could not find pconf_detect command-line utility > required for auto-detection. Make sure > that the gnulpr printfilters package is > properly installed." > > Any suggestons? > > TIA Right now I don't have any ;-) I don't have access to my machine now but I'll have a look. Tomorrow I can tell you what I excatly did... But maybe this will help: Is the gnulpr package installed correct? What't the version of your printtool program? Maybe you can configure your printer without auto detect.. BTW: Which printer do you have. I think I delete your original post... Gregor -- E-Mail: Gregor Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 27-Aug-2001 Time: 09:04:19 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] printer woes
Problems persist. I think I have the symbolic links right, but when I start printtool it does not see my printer, when I try detect I get this error "Could not find pconf_detect command-line utility required for auto-detection. Make sure that the gnulpr printfilters package is properly installed." Any suggestons? TIA Bruce On Thursday 23 August 2001 09:22 am, Gregor Maier wrote: > I'm not at home now so what I say may be not accurate > > Mdk uses symbolic links to ensure that cups and lpd both work with the same > commands (lprm, lpr, lpq,). > > this means /usr/bin/lprm is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/lprm-cups or the > /usr/bin/lprm-lpd. > > Make sure that these links point to the correct place (I'm not sure if the > filenames are correct so you will have to check them...) > > > If this doesn't help maybe you want to switch back to lpd. I never had > problems with lpd and since I got trouble with cups I switched back before > I got deeper into cups. > To do this you'll have to: > - uninstall all cups related packages > - install the lpd related packages > - download and installl printtool from RedHat - the mdk version no longer > supports lpd. Then you can run printtool and configure your printers as in > Mdk 7.x > - no comes the point where I'm not sure what I did. > IIRC the lpd packages installes the /usr/bin/lp*-lpd files. No remove the > /usr/bin/lpXX links and create new links to the lp*-lpd files > cd /usr/bin > ln -s lpr-lpd lpr > . > > > You'll also must start the lpd when the system boots (activate in the > services controll menu of the mdk configuration tool) > > Gregor > > On 23-Aug-2001 Bruce E. Harris wrote: > > Gregor, > > > > Thanks for the tips, but I cant figure out how/what to symbolic link what > > to what. Can you give me an idea? > > > > TIA > > > > Bruce > > > >> I got similiar problems with cups so I switched back to lpd. > >> I uninstalled the cups packages, installed the lpd packages then I > >> downloaded printtool from RedHat (either hasn't Mdk got printtool > >> anymore it just work with cups). Then I configured my printer with > >> printtool just as I did in LM 7.1 and it worked fine. > >> You should check the lpr, lprm, lpq commands IIRC they are symbolic > >> links that need to be adjusted if you switch to lpd. > >> > >> Gregor > > -- > E-Mail: Gregor Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 23-Aug-2001 > Time: 15:04:29 > -- --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] printer woes
Gregor, Thanks for the tips, but I cant figure out how/what to symbolic link what to what. Can you give me an idea? TIA Bruce > > I got similiar problems with cups so I switched back to lpd. > I uninstalled the cups packages, installed the lpd packages then I > downloaded printtool from RedHat (either hasn't Mdk got printtool anymore > it just work with cups). Then I configured my printer with printtool just > as I did in LM 7.1 and it worked fine. > You should check the lpr, lprm, lpq commands IIRC they are symbolic links > that need to be adjusted if you switch to lpd. > > Gregor > > > -- > E-Mail: Gregor Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 23-Aug-2001 > Time: 09:10:17 > -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] printer woes
On 22-Aug-2001 Bruce E. Harris wrote: > I have tried everything and can not get my printer to work with MK 8--it did > for a time under 7.2 until I upgraded cups. I never has this printer or my > pervious, Canon BJC 6000 work under MK 8. > > I have a Epson Stylus Photo 870 connected to my parallel port and tired USB. > It did work with USB, but painfully slow and very faint--totally unusable. I > tried the web interface with cups and I see the printer there but cant get it > to print. I tried KCUPS and that is how I got the USB to work (sort of) but > it will not see my parallel port. Under Mandrake Control Center, Hardware, > Hardware, I see a printer icon, but nothing identified for it, as if it is > empty. Under Printer, I try to set it up but get an error saying lp not > ready. Then I delete the printer and reinstall and still wont print. It acts > as if my parallel port is not there. But this printer works great under Win95 > attached to the parallel port. But all the software I use is Linux, so that > point is really mute. > > What else can I try? > > This problem is getting critial since I need a working printer for my new > job. > I got similiar problems with cups so I switched back to lpd. I uninstalled the cups packages, installed the lpd packages then I downloaded printtool from RedHat (either hasn't Mdk got printtool anymore it just work with cups). Then I configured my printer with printtool just as I did in LM 7.1 and it worked fine. You should check the lpr, lprm, lpq commands IIRC they are symbolic links that need to be adjusted if you switch to lpd. Gregor -- E-Mail: Gregor Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 23-Aug-2001 Time: 09:10:17 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[expert] printer woes
I have tried everything and can not get my printer to work with MK 8--it did for a time under 7.2 until I upgraded cups. I never has this printer or my pervious, Canon BJC 6000 work under MK 8. I have a Epson Stylus Photo 870 connected to my parallel port and tired USB. It did work with USB, but painfully slow and very faint--totally unusable. I tried the web interface with cups and I see the printer there but cant get it to print. I tried KCUPS and that is how I got the USB to work (sort of) but it will not see my parallel port. Under Mandrake Control Center, Hardware, Hardware, I see a printer icon, but nothing identified for it, as if it is empty. Under Printer, I try to set it up but get an error saying lp not ready. Then I delete the printer and reinstall and still wont print. It acts as if my parallel port is not there. But this printer works great under Win95 attached to the parallel port. But all the software I use is Linux, so that point is really mute. What else can I try? This problem is getting critial since I need a working printer for my new job. TIA Bruce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Printer woes again
Warning: unable to get official name for local machine lduperva.uforce.internal Warning: lp is down: waiting for 192.168.5.10 to come up Warning: lp queue is turned off Warning: no daemon present Hi, Why do I get the above messages from my system even if the printer works from Windows (for other people at least -- I ain't tried it for myself). Here's the printcap entry: ##PRINTTOOL3## DIRECT lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :sh:\ :pw#80:\ :pl#66:\ :px#1440:\ :mx#0:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\ :lp=:\ :rm=192.168.5.10:\ :rp=RAW:\ :lpr_bounce: L -- MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAS CHANGED --> UPDATE YOUR ADDRESSBOOK Laurent Duperval "Montreal winters are an intelligence test, Netergy Networks - Java Centerand we who are here have failed it." Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228 -Doug Camilli mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penguin Power!
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug Try This!
To all those who have helped and have also wrestled with these various problems. The lsmaod check remended me of a post several weeks ago. I managed to track it down and tried it out. So far I have had a functioning printer for three days running now, a new record for me in Linux-Mandrake 6.1, but definitely nothing to brag about. I had convinced several individuals to try out Linux-Mandrake recently including a die-hard M$ NT instructor and am very troubled by the difficulty in something as basic as a listed and common printer configuration. I have not been the only one to meet new and unexpected problems with this latest version of Linux-Mandrake. Yes, I had planned to purchase a "boxed set" just to support "the cause" but will now hold off for 6.2 perhaps. To get to the gist of this post: >I've had a similar problem after upgrading my Mandrake 6.0 to 6.1, >posted a question some time ago but got no response. What fixed it for >me was to add the following lines at the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local >/sbin/modprobe parport >/sbin/modprobe parport_pc >/sbin/modprobe lp >--now my printer works again, maybe that helps you as well! >bye, Willy Who ever you are Willy thanks alot, you've given me hope again that I can quit rebooting into M$ to print. After rebooting LInux yet again, this is working for me as well. However this was posted Oct 6 Why is this issue not addressed. A "new user" would certainly not know to "add" these to HUH??? I am sure that if this is indeed a (I hope ) permanent fix for me that the reasons can be addressed by someone more astute that my feeble attempts at "Linuxizing" :-) If there are only two of us in the world who had this problem that would be different. I would ask any of you who have problems and and think this might help to try this. Please let me know if it works so I can pass it on to the NT instructor that, "oh yeah, you just add xyz to wfpd.rcd/xwf.rccc.x/etf/rint.d/yuck.local, heck everbody knows that!" Thanks to Everyone and especially the hardworking programmers at Linux-Mandrake who have to put up with users like me. William Bouterse Juneau Alaska
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug and lsmod
I can sing a ballade about current lpr-bugs... This is becomming utterly annoying - i have been using linux for 5 years and NEVER BEFORE have i seen such a grave bug (or is it better to say "such a beautifull bug-zoo"?) persisting for such a long time in any linux distribution. One of the possible rasons for the weird behaviour of hte lpr-package could be the change in the demon-ownership: The lpr-demon used to be started as "root.lpr" or something like that, (i think). However, this changed and now it gets started as user which send the print-job. Great for the security, but jobs which are sent from a remote machine end up beeing owned by a root and block the printer. Look at this: [root@marvin local]#ls -l /var/spool/lpd/local/ total 38 -rw-rw 1 bin lp 136 Nov 2 12:46 cfA026marvin.exp.univie.ac.at -rw-rw 1 root root 75 Nov 2 12:45 cfA073lena.exp.univie.ac.at -rw-rw 1 denis lp 1993 Nov 2 12:46 dfA026marvin.exp.univie.ac.at -rw-rw 1 root root 16711 Nov 2 12:45 dfA073lena.exp.univie.ac.at Both of these jobs have been submited as user denis - one localy, another from a remote machine. This blocks the printer completely. [denis@marvin havlik]$ lpq HP-LJ4L is ready and printing Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1st denis 73 (standard input) 16711 bytes 1st denis 26 (standard input) 1993 bytes [denis@marvin havlik]$ Ha, great - here we have two "first" jobs. Well done! [root@marvin local]# tail /var/log/messages Nov 2 12:54:45 marvin lpd[1138]: HP-LJ4L: cfA026marvin.exp.univie.ac.at: Permission denied Nov 2 12:54:45 marvin lpd[1138]: HP-LJ4L: cfA073lena.exp.univie.ac.at: Permission denied Nov 2 12:54:45 marvin lpd[1138]: HP-LJ4L: cfA026marvin.exp.univie.ac.at: Permission denied I simply LOVE this. So, if I restart the lp-demon as a root, the queued jobs get printed - i assume on restart, lpd gets started as root, so it is allowed to do what has to be done. Now what? Am i supposed to make the "lpd" suid root or restart the lpd-demon from cron every hour, or what? cu Denis
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug and lsmod
WH Bouterse wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback ! > > 1000 AK time > I will log out now but not reboot. I know all this means something but > what? Endlessly installing, and uninstalling and rebooting as a L-M 6.1 > experience is leaving me tired and frustrated. After all of this fighting, have you considered recompiling your kernel and including the printer into the kernel instead of using modules? I know I would have! I just don't have enough hair to risk losing some on something like printer modules. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug and lsmod
Thanks for the feedback ! The same machine has L-M 6.1, RH52 and win 95 installed and the printer works fine with the other OS's. A followup to this list I sent today did not arrive or else got '/dev/nulled" :>) so I will add the latest development: Shortly after a repeated print failure and /dev/lp* disappearing again, On an impulse I brought up 'lsmod' to view : Module Size Used by parport_probe 3492 2 (uninitialized) parport_pc 5940 1 (autoclean) lp 5820 1 (uninitialized) parport 7580 1 (autoclean) [parport_probe parport_pc lp] Okay I rm -f -r /var/spool/lpd/lp Delete lp from 'printtool' reboot, bring up printtool, 'add printer' yep it freezes the first time Quit printtool, start 'printtool', 'add printer' yes it works this time again. 'lsmod' Module Size Used by parport_probe 3492 2 (autoclean) parport_pc 5940 1 (autoclean) lp 5820 1 (autoclean) parport 7580 1 (autoclean) [parport_probe parport_pc lp] Nov 1st After turning off the computer this time in the pm rebooting in the am 'lsmod' gives me [root@home /root]# lsmod Module Size Used by autofs 9220 1 (autoclean) nfs32888 1 (autoclean) nfsd 152696 8 (autoclean) lockd 32680 1 (autoclean) [nfs nfsd] sunrpc 56068 1 (autoclean) [nfs nfsd lockd] wd 4564 1 (autoclean) ne2k-pci4608 1 (autoclean) 83906468 0 (autoclean) [wd ne2k-pci] nls_iso8859-1 2052 2 (autoclean) nls_cp437 3580 2 (autoclean) vfat 11228 2 (autoclean) fat32992 2 (autoclean) [vfat] awe_wave 172716 0 sb 36660 0 uart401 6224 0 [sb] sound 64984 0 [awe_wave sb uart401] soundcore 2852 7 [sb sound] soundlow 304 0 [sound] Not an lp in site or parport ? So I go to print; try it in Netscape and WP Nothing happens lpq Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stbill 0(standard input) 12572 bytes 2ndbill 1/tmp/_pp_001308_1 1033 bytes 'lprm' locks up [root@home /root]# lpc status lp: queuing is enabled printing is enabled 2 entries in spool area [root@home /root]# lpc start lp lp: printing enabled daemon started [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 1288 518) is running... Once again we have multiple pid's [root@home /root]# cat sample.cf~ >/dev/lp Gives me another entry in 'lpq' but no printing [root@home /root]# lsmod Module Size Used by parport_probe 3492 2 (uninitialized) parport_pc 5940 1 (autoclean) lp 5820 1 (uninitialized) parport 7580 1 (autoclean) [parport_probe parport_pc lp] Okay back to the uninitialized routine again! 0730 AK time end session Start again 0900 'lprm ' doesn't work again to remove jobs in quues so its back to square one. Deleting printers in 'printtool' and attempting to 'add printer' /dev/lp0: Not detected /dev/lp1: Not detected /dev/lp2: Not detected 1000 AK time I will log out now but not reboot. I know all this means something but what? Endlessly installing, and uninstalling and rebooting as a L-M 6.1 experience is leaving me tired and frustrated. William Bouterse Juneau, Alaska
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug Im back!?
WH Bouterse wrote: > Thanks for everyones responses and patience in previous posts. > > I really wonder what is going on !? Some people seem to have no problems > while others (like me) keep running into the wall. L-M 6.1 Helios > > I recently had another outburst of strangeness with lprm locking and > /dev/lp0 disappearing but was able to bring it all back to life again > after deleting the lp directory, leaving the 'lock' file in > /var/spool/lpd, removing any printers in 'printtool' and actually having > to reboot. This was a system that worked fine one evening and as I > attempted to print the next am (machine had been left on ) there was > nothing happening and lprm stalls out and the ques build up. > > I am still using lpr-0.38-3mdk.i586.rpm after the rpm -e > lpr-0.43-1mdk.i586.rpm and can only wonder if something residual was > left around which might affect my paticular setup. Of course I must > reinterate that non of this had ever happened in 4 years Printer setups > on Linux . > > If anyone cares to examine some of the notes I kept this time they are > in the attached file! > > Good Hunting > > William Bouterse > Juneau, Alaska > > The stranges thing is after attempting to print when the machine is > "acting up" I find that there is more than one lpd (pid) > > > --snip > [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status > lpd (pid 5549) is running... > [root@home /root]# lpq > waiting for lp to becom > > #Okay I go into 'printtool and:'add local printer' > > #Does not detect /dev/lp0 > Hardware --?? The first thing I would check is the setup for the parallel port in BIOS, IRQ and I/O address. SPP, ECP or EPP. Then using a loopback plug, test the port. It may be bad or going bad. > > > #bring up 'printtool' > #Go to 'add printer' ,click okay, and it locks up !!!HUH ??? > #close it out > #do a '/etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd restart' > #bringg up 'printtool' again and 'add printer' > #This time it comes up and detects lp ! > #Go figure!!!??? Test the port.
[expert] Printer Woes-bug Im back!?
Thanks for everyones responses and patience in previous posts. I really wonder what is going on !? Some people seem to have no problems while others (like me) keep running into the wall. L-M 6.1 Helios I recently had another outburst of strangeness with lprm locking and /dev/lp0 disappearing but was able to bring it all back to life again after deleting the lp directory, leaving the 'lock' file in /var/spool/lpd, removing any printers in 'printtool' and actually having to reboot. This was a system that worked fine one evening and as I attempted to print the next am (machine had been left on ) there was nothing happening and lprm stalls out and the ques build up. I am still using lpr-0.38-3mdk.i586.rpm after the rpm -e lpr-0.43-1mdk.i586.rpm and can only wonder if something residual was left around which might affect my paticular setup. Of course I must reinterate that non of this had ever happened in 4 years Printer setups on Linux . If anyone cares to examine some of the notes I kept this time they are in the attached file! Good Hunting William Bouterse Juneau, Alaska The stranges thing is after attempting to print when the machine is "acting up" I find that there is more than one lpd (pid) [root@home /root]# lpd restart [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 5489 5456) is running... [root@home /root]# kill -9 5489 [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 5456) is running... [root@home /root]# lpq Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stroot 6printer-probs 2373 bytes 2ndroot 7printer-probs 2373 bytes [root@home /root]# lprm 6 dfA006home.mentasta.org dequeued cfA006home.mentasta.org dequeued [root@home /root]# lprm 7 dfA007home.mentasta.org dequeued cfA007home.mentasta.org dequeued [root@home /root]# lpq no entries [root@home /root]# lpc status lp: queuing is enabled printing is enabled no entries no daemon present #Any attempt to print starts another pid [root@home /root]# lpr Xrootenv.0 [root@home /root]# lpq waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?) Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stroot 10 Xrootenv.0 [root@home /root]# lpc status lp: queuing is enabled printing is enabled 1 entry in spool area waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?) [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 5549 5456) is running... #from here lprm stalled out again but worked once #if I remove the higher 'pid #' . #However it didnt work on anothere try at lprm # #Then I can lprm 10 but after that nothing prints on another attempt and #another lpd pid is started and on it goes again [root@home /root]# kill -9 5456 [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 5549) is running... [root@home /root]# lprm 10 [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 5549) is running... [root@home /root]# lpq waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?) Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stroot 10 981 bytes [root@home /root]# lprm (it stalls out here when it had worked before) [root@home /root]# kill -9 5549 [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd dead but subsys locked #I removed the lp directory in /var/spool/lpd #rm -R -f lp [root@home /root]# lpc status lp: queuing is enabled printing is enabled cannot examine spool directory [root@home /root]# lpd restart [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 5610) is running... #Okay I go into 'printtool and:'add local printer' #Does not detect /dev/lp0 [root@home /root]# ls -l /dev/lp0 crw-rw1 root daemon 6, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/lp0 [root@home /root]# ls -l /dev/lp -rw-r--r--1 root root 50 Oct 23 16:12 /dev/lp [root@home /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status lpd (pid 5610) is running... #So what is happening? #I reboot #Bring up and check status on lpd, yes it is running #try a 'lpr filename' and of course no lp as I deleted it previously #bring up 'printtool' #Go to 'add printer' ,click okay, and it locks up !!!HUH ??? #close it out #do a '/etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd restart' #bring up 'printtool' again and 'add printer' #This time it comes up and detects lp ! #Go figure!!!??? Configure the printer and IT WORKS !!! And Prints both in root and users Same thing happened yesterday but This am nothing worked?! Now it does but for How Long???
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug in lpr-0.43-1mdk
Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > 1) Will the downgrade lpr-0.38-3mdk.i586.rpm work with my Epson Stylus > Color 600. It passed all three printing tests in printtool with flying > colors but the lpq (and lprm) does not work. > Why would you want to downgrade? lpr-0.43-1mdk works fine with my Epson Stylus Color 600. > > 2) If so, where can I get the downgrade? > It's located on the original download or cd-rom. > > Benjamin > -- > Benjamin and Anna Sher > Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sher's Russian Web > http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug in lpr-0.43-1mdk
lpr-0.38-3mdk.i586.rpm is the original 'lpr.rpm' on the 6.1 Helios cd I got from the Linux-Mandrake site so it should be there or a mirror. Dont know if it will fix your problem though. I too sometimes find lprm acting very strangely!? Never, Never, NEVER happened with any distribution of Linux before?!!! So far my Hp 855c is still working fine. Good Luck ! William Bouterse Juneau, Alaska
Re: [expert] Printer Woes-bug in lpr-0.43-1mdk
Dear friends: 1) Will the downgrade lpr-0.38-3mdk.i586.rpm work with my Epson Stylus Color 600. It passed all three printing tests in printtool with flying colors but the lpq (and lprm) does not work. 2) If so, where can I get the downgrade? Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[expert] Printer Woes-bug in lpr-0.43-1mdk
Well for now Printer Woes are over concerning the bizzarre behavior detailed in previous posts. The final solution to getting my printer working was removing the lpr-0.43-1mdk.i586.rpm (the 'update') and replacing it with: lpr-0.38-3mdk.i586.rpm (the default in 6.1 Helios) This was brought to my attention by Lee Burnside who had the same kind of HP printer behavior and suggested the "downgrade". A classic example of "when is an upgrade a downgrade?" I used to think only M$ was guilty !:-) Well we ALL are failable even Linux from time to time ! I did not have Lee's solution in this mornings "Expert" List on my machine but found it in Mandrake.Com's List Archives !!!??? Do postings go there first?! It would also be very nice if the drivers listed as working for HP, i.e. 850x etc did in fact WORK. WP8 (free version) has one and it works great in WP ! My thanks to all those who helped on this one, Herman, Lee and 'Kotz' Michael Now I can go on and prepare my LONG list of other questions sure to arise in the neverending pursuit of Linux Wisdom. Thanks again, William Bouterse Juneu, Alaska
