Re: [expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1

2003-09-01 Thread James Sparenberg 
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 10:02, Mark wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Richard wrote:
> 
> > On Mon September 1 2003 11:51 am, Mark wrote:
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > > I've been playing with 9,2RC1 since yesterday when I installed it,
> > > and I've noticed there are a few things missing. One of which I used
> > > a lot of and that was Konsole. I was wondering if there was a
> > > specific reason that didn't make it into the install. I've also
> > > noticed that MC, the console FileManager didn't get installed.
> > > wussup?
> > 
> > It didn't get installed by default in 9.1 download when choosing Console 
> > tools. 
> > 
> > I don't know what I've have done if I hadn't added it while installing. 
> > Supermount always screws up on my old Dell Latitude, D300XT.  Without it 
> > I'd have to dig out Vi and the command sheet.  Much easier with mc. 
> > 
> > Richard. 
> > 
> 
> I know what you mean. However, I had learned Vi before I even met "mc" 
> back in my early RedHat days. ( RedHat 5.2 ). I don't know that I'll worry 
> about getting Konsole on here right away. Its not a necessity. Gnome 
> terminal works just as well. About the only reason I can even thing of for 
> loading it after the fact is that I can use multiple terms in one window 
> and easily switch back and forth from one window to another without having 
> a dozen or so seperate terminal windows open.
> 
> but now...upon examination of the Gnome terminal it turns out that I can 
> do the same thing with this terminal window as with Konsole and it's much 
> lighter then Konsole. gosh! will wonders never cease!? 

Only problem I've had with multi-gnome-terminal (which is what you have)
comes in ssh'ing into a variety of boxes.  Some of the commnands like
backspace get lost (like with ftp) and as a result it's a pain.  I love
the product (it did a lot of things konsole is just now learning) but
the backspace problem got to be a headache.

James



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Re: [expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1

2003-09-01 Thread Charles A Edwards 
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:07:34 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Only problem I've had with multi-gnome-terminal (which is what you
> have) comes in ssh'ing into a variety of boxes.  Some of the commnands
> like backspace get lost (like with ftp) and as a result it's a pain. 
> I love the product (it did a lot of things konsole is just now
> learning) but the backspace problem got to be a headache.

Give powershell a look.
You can dl it from the contrib dir

MGT was patterned after it.
It features tabs ,bash and tcsh, as well as additional features not
found in MGT.


Charles

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Re: [expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1

2003-09-01 Thread Mark 
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Richard wrote:

> On Mon September 1 2003 11:51 am, Mark wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I've been playing with 9,2RC1 since yesterday when I installed it,
> > and I've noticed there are a few things missing. One of which I used
> > a lot of and that was Konsole. I was wondering if there was a
> > specific reason that didn't make it into the install. I've also
> > noticed that MC, the console FileManager didn't get installed.
> > wussup?
> 
> It didn't get installed by default in 9.1 download when choosing Console 
> tools. 
> 
> I don't know what I've have done if I hadn't added it while installing. 
> Supermount always screws up on my old Dell Latitude, D300XT.  Without it 
> I'd have to dig out Vi and the command sheet.  Much easier with mc. 
> 
> Richard. 
> 

I know what you mean. However, I had learned Vi before I even met "mc" 
back in my early RedHat days. ( RedHat 5.2 ). I don't know that I'll worry 
about getting Konsole on here right away. Its not a necessity. Gnome 
terminal works just as well. About the only reason I can even thing of for 
loading it after the fact is that I can use multiple terms in one window 
and easily switch back and forth from one window to another without having 
a dozen or so seperate terminal windows open.

but now...upon examination of the Gnome terminal it turns out that I can 
do the same thing with this terminal window as with Konsole and it's much 
lighter then Konsole. gosh! will wonders never cease!? 

-- 
Mark

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Re: [expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1

2003-09-01 Thread Richard 
On Mon September 1 2003 11:51 am, Mark wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I've been playing with 9,2RC1 since yesterday when I installed it,
> and I've noticed there are a few things missing. One of which I used
> a lot of and that was Konsole. I was wondering if there was a
> specific reason that didn't make it into the install. I've also
> noticed that MC, the console FileManager didn't get installed.
> wussup?

It didn't get installed by default in 9.1 download when choosing Console 
tools. 

I don't know what I've have done if I hadn't added it while installing. 
Supermount always screws up on my old Dell Latitude, D300XT.  Without it 
I'd have to dig out Vi and the command sheet.  Much easier with mc. 

Richard. 


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Re: [expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1

2003-09-01 Thread Mark 
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

> Mark wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > I've been playing with 9,2RC1 since yesterday when I installed it, and 
> > I've noticed there are a few things missing. One of which I used a lot of 
> > and that was Konsole. I was wondering if there was a specific reason that 
> > didn't make it into the install. I've also noticed that MC, the console 
> > FileManager didn't get installed. wussup?
> > 
> 
> Konsole has been split to kdebase-konsole; urpmi kdebase-konsole.  There 
> has been some clamor to have this installed by default, which I agree is 
> a good idea.  https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4992
> 
> ISTR needing to install mc when I needed it, even after choosing Console 
> Tools and Configuration for some time now.
> 
> Rolf
> 
> 

Good info... thanks Rolf. So far from what I've seen I like 9.2. As a 
workstation its quite well behaved and apart from the slight diffuculties 
I had trying to install with graphical mode, ( used to text install - 
worked flawlessly ). I'm getting real curious to know how it behaves when 
installed as a server. My gateway/firewall server is running Mdk 8.2 and 
I'd like to upgrade it to take advantage of some of the firewall tools 
that exist in the 9.x versions of Mandrake. ( would like to do some port 
forwarding - just been to lazy to learn how to do it using Bastille and 
writing the rules for it and doing the setup for it by hand. Prolly should 
cause I need to know "how" it works rather then letting a program do it 
for me. 

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Re: [expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1

2003-09-01 Thread Rolf Pedersen 
Mark wrote:
Hi list,

I've been playing with 9,2RC1 since yesterday when I installed it, and 
I've noticed there are a few things missing. One of which I used a lot of 
and that was Konsole. I was wondering if there was a specific reason that 
didn't make it into the install. I've also noticed that MC, the console 
FileManager didn't get installed. wussup?

Konsole has been split to kdebase-konsole; urpmi kdebase-konsole.  There 
has been some clamor to have this installed by default, which I agree is 
a good idea.  https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4992

ISTR needing to install mc when I needed it, even after choosing Console 
Tools and Configuration for some time now.

Rolf


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[expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1

2003-09-01 Thread Mark 
Hi list,

I've been playing with 9,2RC1 since yesterday when I installed it, and 
I've noticed there are a few things missing. One of which I used a lot of 
and that was Konsole. I was wondering if there was a specific reason that 
didn't make it into the install. I've also noticed that MC, the console 
FileManager didn't get installed. wussup?

-- 
Mark

"If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?"
---
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