Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-18 Thread Tom Berkley

Apparently Xconfigurator will use a different interface depending on
where you start it. From X it runs with the X libs, without X it
probably uses the ncurses lib to make a nice display sort of like
linuxconf, ntsysv, and some others that I have run in and out of the X
environment. One way to find out is to go look at the source code if you
are interested.

Tom


Andrew George wrote:
> 
> I thought Xconfigurator was an ascii console program, like sndconfig?
> 
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > > The default Mandrake 7.0 install does not use the XFree86 XF86Setup
> > > program which is in a separate rpm. The xf86config is included in the
> > > basic XFree86 rpm and is usually not a very good way to configure your
> > > system. Use the Xconfigurator for the best results with Mandrake or
> > > Redhat. I've used them both and Xconfigurator has always worked better.
> > >
> > Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong (I'll be the first to
> > admit it if I am) don't you need to HAVE "X" before you can
> > run Xconfigurator? In this case, the person asking for the
> > help can't GET to his X.
> >   John



Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-17 Thread Andrew George

I thought Xconfigurator was an ascii console program, like sndconfig?


On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > The default Mandrake 7.0 install does not use the XFree86 XF86Setup
> > program which is in a separate rpm. The xf86config is included in the
> > basic XFree86 rpm and is usually not a very good way to configure your
> > system. Use the Xconfigurator for the best results with Mandrake or
> > Redhat. I've used them both and Xconfigurator has always worked better.
> > 
> Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong (I'll be the first to
> admit it if I am) don't you need to HAVE "X" before you can
> run Xconfigurator? In this case, the person asking for the
> help can't GET to his X.
>   John



Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-17 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


Yes, you're wrong.

On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, you wrote:
| On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote:
| > The default Mandrake 7.0 install does not use the XFree86 XF86Setup
| > program which is in a separate rpm. The xf86config is included in the
| > basic XFree86 rpm and is usually not a very good way to configure your
| > system. Use the Xconfigurator for the best results with Mandrake or
| > Redhat. I've used them both and Xconfigurator has always worked better.
| > 
| Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong (I'll be the first to
| admit it if I am) don't you need to HAVE "X" before you can
| run Xconfigurator? In this case, the person asking for the
| help can't GET to his X.
|   John
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Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> The default Mandrake 7.0 install does not use the XFree86 XF86Setup
> program which is in a separate rpm. The xf86config is included in the
> basic XFree86 rpm and is usually not a very good way to configure your
> system. Use the Xconfigurator for the best results with Mandrake or
> Redhat. I've used them both and Xconfigurator has always worked better.
> 
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong (I'll be the first to
admit it if I am) don't you need to HAVE "X" before you can
run Xconfigurator? In this case, the person asking for the
help can't GET to his X.
John



Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-16 Thread Marcos Dione

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, dan kuykendall wrote:

> When I installed Mandrake 7.0, the GUI installation wored perfectly. But
> now I cannot get X to work with my video card. Is there a way to use the
> same exact settings that the GUI setup uses?

I don't remember if it lets you, but at install time it uses
framebuffer (or vga16 if fbis not dupported), so may be you can try
installing the fb version of the kernel... it used to come in a separated
rpm... then you use the Xfree-fb server and you should get the same thing
as installing. unless it was using the vga-16 one, then you should use
that server.

you can know which one was using reinitiating the instalation
(without installing; just to see what's going on). when it switches to
graphics hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and see the what-would-be startx output.

good luck.

PD: anyway, can you tell me video card and or monitor? privately.

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Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-16 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: Tom Berkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup


> The default Mandrake 7.0 install does not use the XFree86 XF86Setup
> program which is in a separate rpm. The xf86config is included in the
> basic XFree86 rpm and is usually not a very good way to configure your
> system. Use the Xconfigurator for the best results with Mandrake or
> Redhat. I've used them both and Xconfigurator has always worked better.
>

I would disagree to say only to the extent that all three programs do it a
little differently from each other and the best way to configure seems to be
mor edependant on your hardware. I have had better success with all of them
on different machines. Just use what works; try all three.If only parts of
the confog file are best from each one, then cut and paste (method 4).

Hoyt


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Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-16 Thread Tom Berkley

The default Mandrake 7.0 install does not use the XFree86 XF86Setup
program which is in a separate rpm. The xf86config is included in the
basic XFree86 rpm and is usually not a very good way to configure your
system. Use the Xconfigurator for the best results with Mandrake or
Redhat. I've used them both and Xconfigurator has always worked better.

Tom

John Aldrich wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > When I installed Mandrake 7.0, the GUI installation wored perfectly. But
> > now I cannot get X to work with my video card. Is there a way to use the
> > same exact settings that the GUI setup uses?
> >
> try /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config. If that doesn't work, try
> /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86Setup.
> John



Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-16 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> When I installed Mandrake 7.0, the GUI installation wored perfectly. But
> now I cannot get X to work with my video card. Is there a way to use the
> same exact settings that the GUI setup uses?
> 
try /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config. If that doesn't work, try
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86Setup.
John



[expert] use XF86Config from setup

2000-03-16 Thread dan kuykendall

When I installed Mandrake 7.0, the GUI installation wored perfectly. But
now I cannot get X to work with my video card. Is there a way to use the
same exact settings that the GUI setup uses?

Thanks for any help in advanced.

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