RE: [expert] Making a new kernel?
-Original Message- From: Joseph Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I did configured my 3Com905C, ether static or module loadable. Also I see errors related to sound, since no driver is there to support my SB Live sound card. lsmod shows module sound unused. Not familiar with the issues around SB Live - but I assume you've run sndconfig and set it up (if possible)? What is in your /etc/conf.modules ? Now it turns out that module 3c90x (good for my NIC) has been there from the CD install, but linuxconfig tool just hasn't got an entry for that module. I hand type in 3c90x when configure network and it boots and works well. Hmm... so does that mean your problem is solved? Are you losing the network on reboots? Sorry - this is a bit unclear to me. Now I still have to compile the kernel to include my SB Live card driver and I am nurverous about dealing with the module. You should be fine. It's been my experience that sound works more consistent when set as modules rather than coded into the kernel, but I believe there was a whole thread here on the SB Live card so follow that advice... You should make sure that you have clean source. Lots of folks in the Alpha world don't like kernel source RPMs for whatever reason - they always pull the "raw" source. You should also make sure your source tree is clean by starting the process with "make mrproper" - but be advised that this will wipe out any .config file in the tree! Please let me know how to find .config info and I'll post it. I guess it is in /usr/src/linux That is correct. Good luck - Don On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Vanco, Donald wrote: Can you get into single user mode and try inserting the modules you need and see which one is freezing the system? Can you post the .config info? I usually see issues with NICs or sound. Don -Original Message- From: Joseph Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Making a new kernel? Hi, The kernel I compiled of the src with Mandrake 6.1 CD is always not working properly, either freezing when "Finding module dependencies" occurs or crashing when runing. I suspect that the new modules screws up the existing ones there, but I'm not quite sure. Should I delete all the existing modules in /lib/modules/ before do "make modules_install"? All I did is make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install What else do I need to do? Thanks, Joe
Re: [expert] Making a new kernel?
Hi, On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, John LeMay wrote: You make no mention of actually moving the new kernel from /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot to /boot, but I assume you did that. I do not believe make mrproper or make clean are necessary any longer. Don't forget to run /sbin/lilo after you edit /etc/lilo.conf and move the new kernel. The steps: make xconfig make dep make bzImage make modules mv /lib/modules/current /lib/modules/modules.old make modules_install vi /etc/lilo.conf mv /boot/bzImage /boot/oldimage cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage /sbin/lilo Reboot. I always put a new bzImage to a floppy so I don't need to configure lilo. So I just boot it from a floppy. Last time I did it differently: before invoking "make modules_install", I did: cd /lib; mv modules modules-old cd /usr/src/linux; make modules_install Then reboot with new kernel on the floppy. Now I got some progress in that my 3com905C NIC was recognized, which is why I need to recompile the kernel. However, lpd is not working properly from the new kernel. The cause I guess is that 2 modules of "parport_pc" or the like shows (through lsmod) "uninitialized". The result is that printing jobs are just hanging there until I reboot linux with the original kernel. My conclusion is that the loadable modules somehow are incompatible. I am newbie in using modules (this is my first time to use loadable modules) so I'll appreciated it very much if someone can kindly tell me how to deal with modules. Joe
RE: [expert] Making a new kernel?
Can you get into single user mode and try inserting the modules you need and see which one is freezing the system? Can you post the .config info? I usually see issues with NICs or sound. Don -Original Message- From: Joseph Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Making a new kernel? Hi, The kernel I compiled of the src with Mandrake 6.1 CD is always not working properly, either freezing when "Finding module dependencies" occurs or crashing when runing. I suspect that the new modules screws up the existing ones there, but I'm not quite sure. Should I delete all the existing modules in /lib/modules/ before do "make modules_install"? All I did is make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install What else do I need to do? Thanks, Joe
RE: [expert] Making a new kernel?
Don, I did configured my 3Com905C, ether static or module loadable. Also I see errors related to sound, since no driver is there to support my SB Live sound card. lsmod shows module sound unused. Now it turns out that module 3c90x (good for my NIC) has been there from the CD install, but linuxconfig tool just hasn't got an entry for that module. I hand typep in 3c90x when configure network and it boots and works well. Now I still have to compile the kernel to include my SB Live card driver and I am nurverous about dealing with the module. Please let me know how to find .config info and I'll post it. I guess it is in /usr/src/linux, but I am not quite sure. I need go home to check on it. -- Joe On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Vanco, Donald wrote: Can you get into single user mode and try inserting the modules you need and see which one is freezing the system? Can you post the .config info? I usually see issues with NICs or sound. Don -Original Message- From: Joseph Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Making a new kernel? Hi, The kernel I compiled of the src with Mandrake 6.1 CD is always not working properly, either freezing when "Finding module dependencies" occurs or crashing when runing. I suspect that the new modules screws up the existing ones there, but I'm not quite sure. Should I delete all the existing modules in /lib/modules/ before do "make modules_install"? All I did is make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install What else do I need to do? Thanks, Joe
Re: [expert] Making a new kernel?
You make no mention of actually moving the new kernel from /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot to /boot, but I assume you did that. I do not believe make mrproper or make clean are necessary any longer. Don't forget to run /sbin/lilo after you edit /etc/lilo.conf and move the new kernel. The steps: make xconfig make dep make bzImage make modules mv /lib/modules/current /lib/modules/modules.old make modules_install vi /etc/lilo.conf mv /boot/bzImage /boot/oldimage cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage /sbin/lilo Reboot. Joseph Chen wrote: Hi, The kernel I compiled of the src with Mandrake 6.1 CD is always not working properly, either freezing when "Finding module dependencies" occurs or crashing when runing. I suspect that the new modules screws up the existing ones there, but I'm not quite sure. Should I delete all the existing modules in /lib/modules/ before do "make modules_install"? All I did is make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install What else do I need to do? Thanks, Joe -- John J. LeMay Jr. NJMC, LLC. http://www.njmc.com
RE: [expert] Making a new kernel?
i replied to this issue a while ago, but nobody confirmed it. my case was after the upgrade to 2.2.13. what i did is to get rid of one "/" in the pathnames in modules.dep that was generated automatically or manually, because the file generated with "depmod -a" has two "/"s in the pathnames. since then, i have no problem. so take a look at this file at least. source from kernel.org has less compilation options (such as NLS modules). obviously, mandrake added something. by the way, you can boot with the installation floppy disk (vmlinuz root=/dev/hda) in case that you don't have a rescue disk in hand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Sellers Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 3:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Making a new kernel? I had a similar problem after installing 6.1. I posted questions on here, but had very little success. Finally I just downloaded the latest source from ftp.kernel.org, untarred it, and built it myself (doesn't take long). This worked, and now I don't have the problem. Hope this helps. Chad Sellers Joseph Chen wrote: Hi, The kernel I compiled of the src with Mandrake 6.1 CD is always not working properly, either freezing when "Finding module dependencies" occurs or crashing when runing. I suspect that the new modules screws up the existing ones there, but I'm not quite sure. Should I delete all the existing modules in /lib/modules/ before do "make modules_install"? All I did is make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install What else do I need to do? Thanks, Joe
