RE: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
If you have another Linux computer on the network, you can do what I did. I don't have a CD-ROM burner so I downloaded the iso to my Slackware Linux. I mounted the iso with a loopback device (mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 /path/to/iso.image /mnt/cdrom). I then setup the NFS export for /mnt/cdrom. I then did a NFS install on the target computer. Pretty kewl, I think. Hope this helps, Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of M Thompson Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? I would suggest borrowing a friend's external CD-ROM. It would be a feat to fit 650Mb onto multiple floppy disks. Matt From: "Sean Armstrong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:14:26 CDT Does anyone know how to do a floppy install with Mandrake 7.0-7.02?? I don't have a cdrom drive on an old notebook that I've been running Debian on. I would like to install Mandrake 7.0-7.02 on it instead using floppies. Is this possible? Thanx, SA __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Actually, quite common -- there were lots of Pentium notebooks sold with only a provision for external CD-ROM (having seen and troubleshooted a few of these I think it's safe to say that the manufacturers were not anticipating that the users would be reinstalling operating systems =) ) -Stephen- I'm with Stephen. Another thing: laptops aren't the only ones without CD, many offices don't have CDs on the clients and you've got to do a network (ftp or NFS) install, obviuosly booting with a diskette. Rafa
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, you wrote: And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Not really. I've got a P133 notebook with floppy, but no CDROM. I *can* have a CD if I want to take out the floppy drive. :-) John
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
Yes, but without the external CD-ROM being available, either? I mean, I've *done* a Linux floppy install (5+ years ago), and that is *painful*. A great deal more painful than plugging in the external CD-ROM, and Linux has gotten a lot bigger since then. "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Actually, quite common -- there were lots of Pentium notebooks sold with only a provision for external CD-ROM (having seen and troubleshooted a few of these I think it's safe to say that the manufacturers were not anticipating that the users would be reinstalling operating systems =) ) -Stephen- -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
I understand how painful it can be for some OS (no name mentioned, Win95 30+ floppies), but I can install the minimal Debian with nine floppies that takes less than 30 Minutes and Slackware takes even fewer floppies and about the same time. I know all of this, but Debian doesn't work with 2.2.+ kernels yet, and slackware is setup differently. You ought to be able to do a Minimal install with floppies, say 10 or less, with no problem. It shouldn't be 'too' hard for Mandrake to set this up with a seperate .img of their distribution. Or include it in the current distribution. After the minimal installation is finished, I should be able to add whatever packages I want with RPM. Now all of this debating over whether computers exist out there without floppies or whether people without floppies should turn to a different less effective distribution is counter productive. If there is a way to do a floppy install of Mandrake I would love to hear it. If there isn't, I would love to hear that also so that I can complain to Mandrake about another group of computer users they are pushing away. If you all want a big cumudgeon of an operating system that is pnp from the start only, then this is counter the purpose of Linux and eveyone should go back to Windbloze. The whole purpose of Linux was that it could be run on any computer with out taking up a whole bunch of space, and now Mandrake requires a minimal install of around 600Mb. Granted there is alot of free software included, but even Windows doesn't take up this much hard drive space on it's initial install. Well maybe W2K does. Anyways I would appreciate any help on this floppy install idea. Thanx, Yes, but without the external CD-ROM being available, either? I mean, I've *done* a Linux floppy install (5+ years ago), and that is *painful*. A great deal more painful than plugging in the external CD-ROM, and Linux has gotten a lot bigger since then. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
I would suggest borrowing a friend's external CD-ROM. It would be a feat to fit 650Mb onto multiple floppy disks. Matt From: "Sean Armstrong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:14:26 CDT Does anyone know how to do a floppy install with Mandrake 7.0-7.02?? I don't have a cdrom drive on an old notebook that I've been running Debian on. I would like to install Mandrake 7.0-7.02 on it instead using floppies. Is this possible? Thanx, SA __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Sean Armstrong wrote: Why would it have to be 650MB? The base install to run Linux should be no more than 50Mb at the most. This is without any graphics whatsoever. There should be a way to do this with floppies then I can just add whatever I want with RPM. If there isn't a way to do this Mandrake 'ought to look into it. Thanx, Sa From: "M Thompson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:35:22 GMT I would suggest borrowing a friend's external CD-ROM. It would be a feat to fit 650Mb onto multiple floppy disks. Matt From: "Sean Armstrong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:14:26 CDT Does anyone know how to do a floppy install with Mandrake 7.0-7.02?? I don't have a cdrom drive on an old notebook that I've been running Debian on. I would like to install Mandrake 7.0-7.02 on it instead using floppies. Is this possible? Thanx, SA __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Actually, quite common -- there were lots of Pentium notebooks sold with only a provision for external CD-ROM (having seen and troubleshooted a few of these I think it's safe to say that the manufacturers were not anticipating that the users would be reinstalling operating systems =) ) -Stephen-
