Re: [expert] Moving partitions
You also need to edit the grub/lilo config files to pass the right root location, if you are moving your root, or be prepared to do it on the lilo commandline. Buchan Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 01:10:28PM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: Not sure I understand. I can move the partition effortlessly using Partition Magic. I just needed to know if this would mess up the path structure or something else that linux uses. Is that what cat is about? No. Cat will move the data, but won't modify how the partitions are mounted. What you need to do is move the data around from partition to partition, then edit /etc/fstab to mount the new partition where the old one was. That will preserve your paths and other data. Also, I'm not sure that cat is appropriate here. It would work copying to a new partition of the smae size. I don't think it will work if the new partition is smaller, and if the new one is larger, you risk losing the difference. I'd look into cpio, dd and tar for this. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Rivera, Oscar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: RE: [expert] Moving partitions you can use the cat command to move the partition. cat /dev/hd? /dev/hd? -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: When I first installed linux, for reasons I no longer remember I installed Mandrake 7.1 as follows on my 8 GB second HD: I have a windows extended partition of 5.3 GB. Within and at the end of this extended partition (don't ask why) I have a 5.3 GB linuxExt2 main linux partition (hdb11). Beyond this extended partition I have my /usr, swap, /opt, /home partitions (hdb2, hdb3, hdb4). I own a full copy of Partition Magic which I used during the install. I would like to move the main linux partition "out" of the windows extended partition into free space beyond it.. If I moved it using Partition Magic, from within NT, will I still be able to boot into linux and will the partition move mess up things in linux? This may be a silly question, but why do you want to move it? "If it works, don't fix it." Meanwhile, it would probably help if you gave us a more detailed view of the drive in question. As root: fdisk -l /dev/hdb -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
This may be a silly question, but why do you want to move it? "If it works, don't fix it." As a "learning experience" (this is not yet my main pc) and because I have had a few problems that could be related to it: 1) grub will not work on it. lilo does. 2) every so often, after I logout to the main graphic login screen (Mandrake 7.1) I lose the mouse which restores itself if I restart x. 3) I was told originally not to do it this way Meanwhile, it would probably help if you gave us a more detailed view of the drive in question. As root: fdisk -l /dev/hdb Disk /dev/hdb: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 1090 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 2 721 54432005 Extended /dev/hdb2 833 951899640 83 Linux /dev/hdb3 722 745181440 83 Linux /dev/hdb4 746 832657720 83 Linux /dev/hdb5 276566968+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb677 146529168+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb7 147 187309928+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb8 188 201105808+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb9 202 243317488+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb10 244 354839128+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb11 456 721 2010928+ 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 767 cylinders Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 2 1295160966 FAT16 /dev/hda2 157 767 24635525 Extended /dev/hda3 130 156108864 16 Hidden FAT16 /dev/hda4 1 1 4000+ a OS/2 Boot Manager /dev/hda5 * 157 238330592+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda6 * 239 497 1044256+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda7 * 498 701822496+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda8 702 753209632+ 82 Linux swap Partition table entries are not in disk order Hope this helps. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Moving partitions On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: When I first installed linux, for reasons I no longer remember I installed Mandrake 7.1 as follows on my 8 GB second HD: I have a windows extended partition of 5.3 GB. Within and at the end of this extended partition (don't ask why) I have a 5.3 GB linuxExt2 main linux partition (hdb11). Beyond this extended partition I have my /usr, swap, /opt, /home partitions (hdb2, hdb3, hdb4). I own a full copy of Partition Magic which I used during the install. I would like to move the main linux partition "out" of the windows extended partition into free space beyond it.. If I moved it using Partition Magic, from within NT, will I still be able to boot into linux and will the partition move mess up things in linux? Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] Moving partitions
you can use the cat command to move the partition. cat /dev/hd? /dev/hd? Oscar -Original Message- From: Jeff Malka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:58 AM To: expert mandrake Cc: Charles Curley Subject: Re: [expert] Moving partitions This may be a silly question, but why do you want to move it? "If it works, don't fix it." As a "learning experience" (this is not yet my main pc) and because I have had a few problems that could be related to it: 1) grub will not work on it. lilo does. 2) every so often, after I logout to the main graphic login screen (Mandrake 7.1) I lose the mouse which restores itself if I restart x. 3) I was told originally not to do it this way Meanwhile, it would probably help if you gave us a more detailed view of the drive in question. As root: fdisk -l /dev/hdb Disk /dev/hdb: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 1090 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 2 721 54432005 Extended /dev/hdb2 833 951899640 83 Linux /dev/hdb3 722 745181440 83 Linux /dev/hdb4 746 832657720 83 Linux /dev/hdb5 276566968+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb677 146529168+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb7 147 187309928+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb8 188 201105808+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb9 202 243317488+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb10 244 354839128+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hdb11 456 721 2010928+ 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 767 cylinders Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 2 1295160966 FAT16 /dev/hda2 157 767 24635525 Extended /dev/hda3 130 156108864 16 Hidden FAT16 /dev/hda4 1 1 4000+ a OS/2 Boot Manager /dev/hda5 * 157 238330592+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda6 * 239 497 1044256+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda7 * 498 701822496+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda8 702 753209632+ 82 Linux swap Partition table entries are not in disk order Hope this helps. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Moving partitions On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: When I first installed linux, for reasons I no longer remember I installed Mandrake 7.1 as follows on my 8 GB second HD: I have a windows extended partition of 5.3 GB. Within and at the end of this extended partition (don't ask why) I have a 5.3 GB linuxExt2 main linux partition (hdb11). Beyond this extended partition I have my /usr, swap, /opt, /home partitions (hdb2, hdb3, hdb4). I own a full copy of Partition Magic which I used during the install. I would like to move the main linux partition "out" of the windows extended partition into free space beyond it.. If I moved it using Partition Magic, from within NT, will I still be able to boot into linux and will the partition move mess up things in linux? Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
n extended partition. I'd delete hdb2, which is the last partition on the disk, then create an extended partition which runs from cylinder 833 to 1090, then create logical partitions inside that. Have I given you enough to get you started? Hope this helps. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Moving partitions On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: When I first installed linux, for reasons I no longer remember I installed Mandrake 7.1 as follows on my 8 GB second HD: I have a windows extended partition of 5.3 GB. Within and at the end of this extended partition (don't ask why) I have a 5.3 GB linuxExt2 main linux partition (hdb11). Beyond this extended partition I have my /usr, swap, /opt, /home partitions (hdb2, hdb3, hdb4). I own a full copy of Partition Magic which I used during the install. I would like to move the main linux partition "out" of the windows extended partition into free space beyond it.. If I moved it using Partition Magic, from within NT, will I still be able to boot into linux and will the partition move mess up things in linux? -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 01:10:28PM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: Not sure I understand. I can move the partition effortlessly using Partition Magic. I just needed to know if this would mess up the path structure or something else that linux uses. Is that what cat is about? No. Cat will move the data, but won't modify how the partitions are mounted. What you need to do is move the data around from partition to partition, then edit /etc/fstab to mount the new partition where the old one was. That will preserve your paths and other data. Also, I'm not sure that cat is appropriate here. It would work copying to a new partition of the smae size. I don't think it will work if the new partition is smaller, and if the new one is larger, you risk losing the difference. I'd look into cpio, dd and tar for this. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Rivera, Oscar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: RE: [expert] Moving partitions you can use the cat command to move the partition. cat /dev/hd? /dev/hd? -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
When I first installed linux, for reasons I no longer remember I installed Mandrake 7.1 as follows on my 8 GB second HD: I have a windows extended partition of 5.3 GB. Within and at the end of this extended partition (don't ask why) I have a 5.3 GB linuxExt2 main linux partition (hdb11). Beyond this extended partition I have my /usr, swap, /opt, /home partitions (hdb2, hdb3, hdb4). I own a full copy of Partition Magic which I used during the install. I would like to move the main linux partition "out" of the windows extended partition into free space beyond it.. If I moved it using Partition Magic, from within NT, will I still be able to boot into linux and will the partition move mess up things in linux? Still learning. Thanks Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 If you want to move root partition you need: I. make boot diskette: 1. copy kernel to floppy: cp /boot/vmlinuz /dev/fd0 2. set root partition: rdev /dev/hdxx /dev/fd0 where hdxx - new place of root partition. II. move partition III. reboot system from diskette IV. edit lilo.conf and fstab according to new places of partitions. V. run lilo VI. reboot system If you would like use Grub you need edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and run /boot/grub/install.sh -- Regards, Nikolay V. Kursov IT,Co. 380(512)500388 ICQ #57477715 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
Larry Marshall wrote: Partition Magic will move the data as the partition is moved. If I understood what he was asking, there'd be no change in fstab. Most likely /boot would still be /dev/hda5. Maybe I didn't understand what he was asking. If a Linux partition is copied, the copy will not boot. You must bring up another working Linux partition (maybe the source of the partition copy) then as root: mount the copied partition. chroot mount point kedit /etc/fstab Alter the root line to the new device. Remove any other mention of the new root partition. Save. chroot mount point kedit /etc/lilo.conf Change all mentions of the old root device to the new root device. Save. chroot mount point /sbin/lilo Boot down. Add the new boot device to your boot manager (hopefully xosl). Boot the new Linux partition. Yes, that's all!! If you now want to delete the old Linux partition, remember to replace it with a minimum-size ext2 placeholder partition so as not to disturb the partition numbering. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
Thanks. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Moving partitions Larry Marshall wrote: Partition Magic will move the data as the partition is moved. If I understood what he was asking, there'd be no change in fstab. Most likely /boot would still be /dev/hda5. Maybe I didn't understand what he was asking. If a Linux partition is copied, the copy will not boot. You must bring up another working Linux partition (maybe the source of the partition copy) then as root: mount the copied partition. chroot mount point kedit /etc/fstab Alter the root line to the new device. Remove any other mention of the new root partition. Save. chroot mount point kedit /etc/lilo.conf Change all mentions of the old root device to the new root device. Save. chroot mount point /sbin/lilo Boot down. Add the new boot device to your boot manager (hopefully xosl). Boot the new Linux partition. Yes, that's all!! If you now want to delete the old Linux partition, remember to replace it with a minimum-size ext2 placeholder partition so as not to disturb the partition numbering. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Moving partitions
Thank you. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Nikolay V. Kursov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Moving partitions When I first installed linux, for reasons I no longer remember I installed Mandrake 7.1 as follows on my 8 GB second HD: I have a windows extended partition of 5.3 GB. Within and at the end of this extended partition (don't ask why) I have a 5.3 GB linuxExt2 main linux partition (hdb11). Beyond this extended partition I have my /usr, swap, /opt, /home partitions (hdb2, hdb3, hdb4). I own a full copy of Partition Magic which I used during the install. I would like to move the main linux partition "out" of the windows extended partition into free space beyond it.. If I moved it using Partition Magic, from within NT, will I still be able to boot into linux and will the partition move mess up things in linux? Still learning. Thanks Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 If you want to move root partition you need: I. make boot diskette: 1. copy kernel to floppy: cp /boot/vmlinuz /dev/fd0 2. set root partition: rdev /dev/hdxx /dev/fd0 where hdxx - new place of root partition. II. move partition III. reboot system from diskette IV. edit lilo.conf and fstab according to new places of partitions. V. run lilo VI. reboot system If you would like use Grub you need edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and run /boot/grub/install.sh -- Regards, Nikolay V. Kursov IT,Co. 380(512)500388 ICQ #57477715 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
