Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-31 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 31-Aug-00 by Jesper Holmberg:

> Well, what would be the difference between running init 3/5 and a soft
> reboot? In my opinion, it's the same thing. Both ways, init is the
> first process to start. Not rereading bios settings is the only difference I
> can think of. Init is in effect a reboot.

Umm just changing runlevel with init also means no processing of all the
instructions in /etc/rc.d/rc.{sysinit,serial,firewall} which define the
basic operation conditions for the system.  These include mounting
partitions and swap, setting the clock and hostname. initiating devfs,
isapnp detection, loading of modules from /etc/rc.d/rc.modules, starting
RAID devices, and execution of the mandrake_everytime script.  So yes, there
is quite a lot of difference between the two ideas.

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Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-31 Thread Sarang Lakare


> I think it has to do with the output of the uptime command and bragging rights
> regarding the stability of the operating system. :)

correct! and the fact that init 3 and init 5 take less than a minute
compared to a hard reboot!

-sarang

> 
> Tony




Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-31 Thread Tony McGee




On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Jesper Holmberg pushed some tiny letters in this order:
> * On Thursday, August 31, Sarang Lakare wrote:
> > No you don't have to [reboot].. as I had mentioned in a previous emial.. a simple
> > "init 3" followed by "init 5" would have helped :).. I like the challange
> > of doing everything (but kernel upgrade) w/o rebooting :))
> > 
> 
> Well, what would be the difference between running init 3/5 and a soft
> reboot? In my opinion, it's the same thing. Both ways, init is the
> first process to start. Not rereading bios settings is the only difference I
> can think of. Init is in effect a reboot.
> 

I think it has to do with the output of the uptime command and bragging rights
regarding the stability of the operating system. :)

Tony




Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-31 Thread Jesper Holmberg


* On Thursday, August 31, Sarang Lakare wrote:
> No you don't have to [reboot].. as I had mentioned in a previous emial.. a simple
> "init 3" followed by "init 5" would have helped :).. I like the challange
> of doing everything (but kernel upgrade) w/o rebooting :))
> 

Well, what would be the difference between running init 3/5 and a soft
reboot? In my opinion, it's the same thing. Both ways, init is the
first process to start. Not rereading bios settings is the only difference I
can think of. Init is in effect a reboot.

Jesper

-- 
Jesper Holmberg"But how can one be warm alone?"




Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-30 Thread Sarang Lakare

> Of course, I realized the _real_ solution: restart!!! Silly me - I
> assumed I never had to completely restart Linux to get software to
> work... oh well. Sorry to bother y'all.

No you don't have to.. as I had mentioned in a previous emial.. a simple
"init 3" followed by "init 5" would have helped :).. I like the challange
of doing everything (but kernel upgrade) w/o rebooting :))

-sarang

> 
> -peter
> 
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Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-30 Thread Peter M Aarestad

"peter aarestad :-)" wrote:
> 
> Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote:
> >
> > >From what I have read on this issue, you need to also get the rpm for
> > mandrake desk or something like that.
> 
> Yah - I installed that one, too - in fact, the problem was there even
> after I installed it! I thought it was causing it, but after
> "downgrading" to the release version of mandrake_desk, the problem
> persisted.
> 
> -peter

Of course, I realized the _real_ solution: restart!!! Silly me - I
assumed I never had to completely restart Linux to get software to
work... oh well. Sorry to bother y'all.

-peter


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Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-30 Thread Peter M Aarestad

Sarang Lakare wrote:
> 
> if you had searched on this list you would have found the problem!!.. you
> also need to installed mandrake_desk??? rpm...
> 
> -sarang

Unfortunately, I have installed the mandrake_desk rpm, but the problem
persists (in fact, I had installed it to begin with!)...

-peter
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Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-30 Thread peter aarestad :-)

Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote:
> 
> >From what I have read on this issue, you need to also get the rpm for
> mandrake desk or something like that.

Yah - I installed that one, too - in fact, the problem was there even
after I installed it! I thought it was causing it, but after
"downgrading" to the release version of mandrake_desk, the problem
persisted.

-peter




Re: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-30 Thread Sarang Lakare

if you had searched on this list you would have found the problem!!.. you
also need to installed mandrake_desk??? rpm... 

-sarang




RE: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93

2000-08-30 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

>From what I have read on this issue, you need to also get the rpm for
mandrake desk or something like that.


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From: peter aarestad :-) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: [expert] problems after installing KDE 1.93


Yikes! I installed all of the KDE 1.93 RPMs last night off of Cooker,
and then my X login screen got completely goofed up - it's displayed in
this retro font, and there's only one option in the window manager menu
that looks like a list: "kde, gnome, sawfish, default" or something like
that. Strangely, when I log in, it puts me in IceWM (which isn't in the
aforementioned list, but is, of course, installed on my system)! I
normally use GNOME, so I thought it would default to that. What on earth
is going on?

-peter