Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:14:05 -0400 HoytDuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said: On Sunday 11 August 2002 06:19 pm, you wrote: Hoyt, thanks could you send me links to that thread? RH suffers even more than Mandrake does on these boxes and I'd love a solid fix. Upgrade and rebuild is fine as long as the end result is a solid 8.2 BEFORE 9.0 comes out *grin* James That was the entire thread other than my post to it. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Fix it until it breaks. Hoyt thanks Still not happy here with the results/answers (Not complaining about the people who give the answers just that the answers all point to crap hardware on EVERY ones part. Where do you go for solid chipsets?) Need to keep digging. There are many names I have for this box right now. Stable is not one of them. . Somtimes I miss my k-6 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Mostly, SiS seems solid. Never a high performer, and certainly lacking some bells and whistles--at least they are linux-friendly and less buggy than most. Crap hardware is the result of intense competition for diminishing bucks. The market is cost-sensitive and becoming more so, and the race to the marketplace prohibits extensive testing, (and most folk have software that masks the bugs of the hardware). Best of luck with your BoxOfFiftyNames. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
On Friday 09 August 2002 04:09 pm, James Sparenberg scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: Fingers crossed for you. *grin* James Seems to be holding so far. 8) !!! Now I just need to apply the Win4Lin patches and do the same thing, Where did you stumble upon this bit of advice? And to whom do I direct a request for a more reasonable fix? -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Fix it until it breaks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
Hoyt, Actually I posted a message to the group asking if anyone had seen an error message I FINALLY got. There was only one message of it in Google and it seemed to point to DMA. Todd being the helpful soul he is found the error message in the kernel (/usr/src/linux/char/devices/drm_40/i810_dma.c). I did some comparison between the stock Win4Lin kernel used in 8.1 and 8.2 and found that somewhere around 2.4.10 (I read the changelogs from 2.4.8 to 2.4.18 ) DRM 4.1 was added to the kernel. BUT the old DRM was still there. Posted it back Todd noticed that the config file had a mention of using old DRM and I started playing with Kernel configs. Don't know who to tell about this or where to place a bug report. It seems to be inherent in the kernel not Mandrake. I installed RH 7.3 and FreeBSD on partitions on this box and RH is even flakier than Mandrake. FreeBSD doesn't use DRM 4.1 and sits there like a rock. Put 2 and 2 together crossed my fingers Patched a kernel myself and ... it worked. Can't say how long it will stay up yet. It's been hovering around 100 daytime in the valley and I've been shutting the box off during the day for it's/my sake. Really glad this helped. This to me means 3 chipsets that the new DRM doesn't work well with. Intel i810, i815 and the AMD chipset you have. Both my boxes, one with the i810 chipset and one with the i815 have gone solid. This is why my servers all run 2.2.20. James On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:17:44 -0400 HoytDuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said: On Friday 09 August 2002 04:09 pm, James Sparenberg scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: Fingers crossed for you. *grin* James Seems to be holding so far. 8) !!! Now I just need to apply the Win4Lin patches and do the same thing, Where did you stumble upon this bit of advice? And to whom do I direct a request for a more reasonable fix? -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Fix it until it breaks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card - Instability problem solved
On Sunday 11 August 2002 02:50 am, James Sparenberg scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: Don't know who to tell about this or where to place a bug report. It seems to be inherent in the kernel not Mandrake. I installed RH 7.3 and FreeBSD on partitions on this box and RH is even flakier than Mandrake. I'm using RH 7.3 and 8.0beta as well and can report the same #$% flakiness in them. Here are my chipsets for this TYAN MP S2466 mobo: # lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-760 MP [IGD4-2P] System Controller (rev 11) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-760 MP [IGD4-2P] AGP Bridge 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-768 [Opus] ISA (rev 04) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-768 [Opus] IDE (rev 04) 00:07.3 Bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-768 [Opus] ACPI (rev 03) 00:10.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-768 [Opus] PCI (rev 04) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 82) 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78) Don't know who to tell about this or where to place a bug report. I suspect that DRM would be an XFree86 problem? You appear more technically atute than I in this matter (and have arrived at a solution), so would you do the bug report? I doubt that it is something that Mandrake would handle other than perhaps placing an eratta on the 8.1/8.2/9.0 lists. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Fix it until it breaks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card - Instability problem solved
HoytDuff wrote: I suspect that DRM would be an XFree86 problem? You appear more technically atute than I in this matter (and have arrived at a solution), so would you do the bug report? I doubt that it is something that Mandrake would handle other than perhaps placing an eratta on the 8.1/8.2/9.0 lists. James, Have you noticed that, when they want *you* to do the job, there is always a compliment or two that will come your way? You gotta love it... drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.html Character is built upon the debris of despair --Emerson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:14:05 -0400 HoytDuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said: On Sunday 11 August 2002 06:19 pm, you wrote: Hoyt, thanks could you send me links to that thread? RH suffers even more than Mandrake does on these boxes and I'd love a solid fix. Upgrade and rebuild is fine as long as the end result is a solid 8.2 BEFORE 9.0 comes out *grin* James That was the entire thread other than my post to it. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Fix it until it breaks. Hoyt thanks Still not happy here with the results/answers (Not complaining about the people who give the answers just that the answers all point to crap hardware on EVERY ones part. Where do you go for solid chipsets?) Need to keep digging. There are many names I have for this box right now. Stable is not one of them. . Somtimes I miss my k-6 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card - some error messages
Looks like you removed the sound card but forgot to undo the changes made by running soundconfig. As a result the kernel is still trying to load the sound modules, which MAY be the problem. Look at the module config file in Text mode and delete any references to sound. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HoytDuff |Sent: August 9, 2002 1:00 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card - some error messages | | |On Thursday 08 August 2002 08:36 pm, Jose M. Sanchez scribbled |in crayon on a |yellow legal pad: | When there is a conflict, it is because both slots share the same | signaling lines to the CPU. | | | If you change one in the bios, you change the other as well. | | | He'll need to move one of the devices to another slot instead. | |Well, I removed the card rather than just switching slots and |now have no IRQ |conflicts, but I still get X11 crashes. They're mostly |associated with KDE3's |kmail, but konqueror and konsole crash as well. | |The X errors look like: | |select returned 0 | |and | |ICE default IO error | |but nothing specific. | |I just now managed to finally catch something happening: | |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: kernel BUG at page_alloc.c:131! |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: invalid operand: Aug 9 |00:42:23 titan kernel: sr_mod soundcore mga agpgart Mvnetd Mvnet |Mvnetint Mvw Mvmouse Mvkbd Mvgic Mvd |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: CPU:0 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: EIP: |1010:[free_swap_and_cache+106/160] |Tainted: PF |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: EFLAGS: 00010286 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: EIP is at __free_pages_ok [kernel] 0x11a |(2.4.18-5smp) |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: eax: 0020 ebx: c180f6d0 |ecx: c02f00e0 |edx: 2f2d |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: esi: edi: c130 |ebp: |esp: da233e68 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: ds: 1018 es: 1018 ss: 1018 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Process kdeinit (pid: 3485, |stackpage=da233000) Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Stack: |c024566e 0083 c17f7720 c17f7758 |c1038030 c02f16c4 0213 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel:00011aae c037c82c |002f 00a8 |c17f2c88 c012cb9c c180f6d0 000ae000 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel:00a8 000ae000 |00a8 0810 |db85a084 0840 c037c760 00a8 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Call Trace: [handle_mm_fault+172/352] |do_zap_page_range [kernel] 0x37c |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [clear_IO_APIC_pin+160/176] |flush_tlb_all_ipi |[kernel] 0x0 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [vm_enough_memory+144/208] |zap_page_range |[kernel] 0x50 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [drop_behind+187/192] exit_mmap |[kernel] 0xdb Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: |[find_resource+49/192] do_getitimer [kernel] |0xa1 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [.text.lock.exec_domain+64/73] |mmput [kernel] |0x37 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [do_softirq+162/208] do_exit |[kernel] 0xf2 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: |[fsync_super+153/192] sys_write [kernel] 0x19 Aug 9 00:42:23 |titan kernel: [do_sigpending+2/144] sys_alarm [kernel] 0x32 |Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [show+107/384] system_call |[kernel] 0x33 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Aug 9 00:42:23 |titan kernel: Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Code: 0f 0b 5f 5d |c6 43 24 05 8b 43 18 89 f1 89 |dd 83 e0 eb 89 43 | | |Now if only I knew what all that meant, I might be able to do |some detective |work and get it fixed. | |Thanks, | |Hoyt | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
On Thursday 08 August 2002 07:46 pm, et scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: do you have a cd or floppy that came with either the mother board, or the sound card? No. Sound card is a SoundBlaster with aCreative CT5880 can you move the sound card to a different slot on the motherboard? Yes. Worth a try. Thanks, Hoyt Hoyt- I'd noticed earlier in this thread and in other e-mails as well that stability was something you were sorely lacking in 8.2 X crashes etc etc etc. Well I too suffered from this and never thought about the fact that they could be related because my Hardware is very different from yours. Research into going stable has however yielded two things one a box that rocks. With full capabilities and a KVM that works right again. I had to build a new kernel. Under character devices there is an option to build DRM with old (4.0) drivers (as apposed to the new 4.1 versions) Now my box was completely stable under 8.1 and I found out that in kernel 2.4.10 they started adding the new DRM in about 2.4.14 it became the default. 2.4.8 kernel the stock kernel with Mandrake 8.1 then didn't have the new DRM. So I went and built myself a kernel using the old DRM modules and pf. I'm rock steady. No feature loss. No hassles. Just a box that when I move the mouse in the morning the screen wakes up, I can ctrl-alt-f1 without killing X etc etc. My point is build a test kernel for your self this way. (Modules too) and try it out. Just make sure you change the EXTRAVERSION line in the Makefile so that the modules become a new directory of their own. Your results may vary but mine have been all good so far. 3 days uptime and rocking! James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
On Friday 09 August 2002 01:54 pm, James Sparenberg scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: I had to build a new kernel. Under character devices there is an option to build DRM with old (4.0) drivers (as apposed to the new 4.1 versions) It's sure worth a try. Everything else has failed to produce lasting results. I'll let you know how it does. Thanks. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Fix it until it breaks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
Fingers crossed for you. *grin* James On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:54:28 -0400 HoytDuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said: On Friday 09 August 2002 01:54 pm, James Sparenberg scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: I had to build a new kernel. Under character devices there is an option to build DRM with old (4.0) drivers (as apposed to the new 4.1 versions) It's sure worth a try. Everything else has failed to produce lasting results. I'll let you know how it does. Thanks. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Fix it until it breaks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
do you have a cd or floppy that came with either the mother board, or the sound card? can you move the sound card to a different slot on the motherboard? On Thursday 08 August 2002 06:41 pm, you wrote: How can I set the IRQ on a pci card? I have a conflict between an on-board ethernet device and a PCI soundcard: both want IRQ 5. I have attempted to use pirq=, but no luck there. Any advice? Thanks, Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
On Thursday 08 August 2002 19:46, et wrote: do you have a cd or floppy that came with either the mother board, or the sound card? can you move the sound card to a different slot on the motherboard? On Thursday 08 August 2002 06:41 pm, you wrote: How can I set the IRQ on a pci card? I have a conflict between an on-board ethernet device and a PCI soundcard: both want IRQ 5. I have attempted to use pirq=, but no luck there. Any advice? Thanks, Hoyt What about adjusting the irq of the onboard NIC in the manboard BIOS? -- +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-+-+ \ Sitting in his UNIX LAN \ Charles A. Shirley \ \ Making all his UNIX plans \ cashirley (at) comcast (dot) net \ +--# For nobody --+-+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
When there is a conflict, it is because both slots share the same signaling lines to the CPU. If you change one in the bios, you change the other as well. He'll need to move one of the devices to another slot instead. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chuck Shirley |Sent: August 8, 2002 8:01 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card | | |On Thursday 08 August 2002 19:46, et wrote: |do you have a cd or floppy that came with either the mother board, or |the |sound card? can you move the sound card to a different slot on the |motherboard? | |On Thursday 08 August 2002 06:41 pm, you wrote: | How can I set the IRQ on a pci card? I have a conflict between an | on-board ethernet device and a PCI soundcard: both want IRQ 5. | | I have attempted to use pirq=, but no luck there. Any advice? | | Thanks, | Hoyt | |What about adjusting the irq of the onboard NIC in the manboard BIOS? | |-- | +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-+-+ | \ Sitting in his UNIX LAN \ Charles A. Shirley \ | \ Making all his UNIX plans \ cashirley (at) comcast (dot) net \ |+--# For nobody @--+-+ | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
On Thursday 08 August 2002 07:46 pm, et scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: do you have a cd or floppy that came with either the mother board, or the sound card? No. Sound card is a SoundBlaster with aCreative CT5880 can you move the sound card to a different slot on the motherboard? Yes. Worth a try. Thanks, Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card
On Thursday 08 August 2002 08:01 pm, Chuck Shirley scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: What about adjusting the irq of the onboard NIC in the manboard BIOS? The Tyan Tiger MP S2466 I am using does not have such an option. 8( Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting IRQ on a pci card - some error messages
On Thursday 08 August 2002 08:36 pm, Jose M. Sanchez scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: When there is a conflict, it is because both slots share the same signaling lines to the CPU. If you change one in the bios, you change the other as well. He'll need to move one of the devices to another slot instead. Well, I removed the card rather than just switching slots and now have no IRQ conflicts, but I still get X11 crashes. They're mostly associated with KDE3's kmail, but konqueror and konsole crash as well. The X errors look like: select returned 0 and ICE default IO error but nothing specific. I just now managed to finally catch something happening: Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: kernel BUG at page_alloc.c:131! Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: invalid operand: Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: sr_mod soundcore mga agpgart Mvnetd Mvnet Mvnetint Mvw Mvmouse Mvkbd Mvgic Mvd Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: CPU:0 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: EIP:1010:[free_swap_and_cache+106/160] Tainted: PF Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: EFLAGS: 00010286 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: EIP is at __free_pages_ok [kernel] 0x11a (2.4.18-5smp) Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: eax: 0020 ebx: c180f6d0 ecx: c02f00e0 edx: 2f2d Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: esi: edi: c130 ebp: esp: da233e68 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: ds: 1018 es: 1018 ss: 1018 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Process kdeinit (pid: 3485, stackpage=da233000) Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Stack: c024566e 0083 c17f7720 c17f7758 c1038030 c02f16c4 0213 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel:00011aae c037c82c 002f 00a8 c17f2c88 c012cb9c c180f6d0 000ae000 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel:00a8 000ae000 00a8 0810 db85a084 0840 c037c760 00a8 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Call Trace: [handle_mm_fault+172/352] do_zap_page_range [kernel] 0x37c Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [clear_IO_APIC_pin+160/176] flush_tlb_all_ipi [kernel] 0x0 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [vm_enough_memory+144/208] zap_page_range [kernel] 0x50 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [drop_behind+187/192] exit_mmap [kernel] 0xdb Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [find_resource+49/192] do_getitimer [kernel] 0xa1 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [.text.lock.exec_domain+64/73] mmput [kernel] 0x37 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [do_softirq+162/208] do_exit [kernel] 0xf2 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [fsync_super+153/192] sys_write [kernel] 0x19 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [do_sigpending+2/144] sys_alarm [kernel] 0x32 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: [show+107/384] system_call [kernel] 0x33 Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Aug 9 00:42:23 titan kernel: Code: 0f 0b 5f 5d c6 43 24 05 8b 43 18 89 f1 89 dd 83 e0 eb 89 43 Now if only I knew what all that meant, I might be able to do some detective work and get it fixed. Thanks, Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
