Re: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-20 Thread Mike Rambo

Phil Connor wrote:
 
 I don't understand, dhcpd should just use the address of the NIC.  How
 does it know "the address is already in use"?
 
 Nope! try setting the ipaddress for DHCPD as .0 example 192.168.20.0 and
 then set your range to start with your nic address like 192.168.20.20 -
 192.168.20.40
 
Yes, the subnet is declared as the network addresss - not the machine. 
But dhcpd was still responding that it couldn't bind to the machine
address.  Here is my dhcpd.conf.

# Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol
# DHCPd Daemon Configuration File
# dlt=600sec=10min, mlt=43200sec=12hours
#
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 43200;
option domain-name-servers 10.8.1.7, 207.73.196.250;
option domain-name "forestview.edu";

subnet 10.33.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
   range 10.33.1.10 10.33.1.250;
   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
   option broadcast-address 10.33.1.255;
   option routers 10.33.1.251;
}

 Perhaps there is more that one dhcpd running on the box.  What does the
 log file say?  What does the output from ifconfig say?  What does your
 dhcpd.conf file say?
 
 Only if he has several or virtual address's which will all have to have an
 entry/declaration even if their not used to give address out.
 
ifconfig shows only eth0 and lo.  Nothing appears abnormal in any way. 
Even the routing table looked normal and the server itself was able to
surf the web as normal.  dhcpd just insisted on pukeing whenever I tried
to launch it.  As I've said elsewhere though, I think there must be
something going on either with the server or the network as we're
getting sharing violations with Samba that shouldn't be happening.  I
don't know what else on the network would cause this.  Immediately after
I changed the server IP I pinged the original IP to see what I'd find. 
Ping said there was nothing there.

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Re: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-20 Thread Mike Rambo

Bill Shirley wrote:
 
 I don't understand, dhcpd should just use the address of the NIC.  How
 does it know "the address is already in use"?
 
 Perhaps there is more that one dhcpd running on the box.  What does the
 log file say?  What does the output from ifconfig say?  What does your
 dhcpd.conf file say?
 
 Bill
 

I don't understand either and I don't know why it's giving that
message.  Maybe I'll check with the dhcp mail list that ISC has.

I checked for the dhcpd pid.  There was none.  Nothing showed with ps ax
either.  ifconfig showed only the single ethernet card and lo and
displayed nothing out of the ordinary.  The dhcpd.conf file was
unchanged from it's initial setup (and was checked for correctness too -
it was/is ok).

As I said before ... totally baffled!  Something does appear to be going
on with this server though.  We've got what appear to be sharing
violations with Samba shares that shouldn't be occuring.  I haven't been
back on location yet so I don't know for sure.  That's for later this
afternoon.


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Re: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Jim Holthaus

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Mike Rambo wrote:
 the box refused to start the dhcp server daemon
 with the error that it couldn't bind to the IP address because it was
 already in use.  There is and was nothing else on the same IP address as
 the server but the only way I found to resolve that problem was to put
 the server on a different IP address.  That's a wierd one I've never
 seen before.

There was probably another computer on the subnet with the same IP address. 

 Now this morning I'm starting to get more complaints that the access
 problem has returned to some degree.  Only a few computers in the school
 can access one of the important programs.

Start by looking at what's changed since the system last worked. Did you
accidentally break something while trying to fix things yesterday? Do all
of the clients know the new address of the server? After that, start working on
network troubleshooting. Make sure your underlying communications between the
server and clients works. Once you are confident of this, look at software
specific problems like record locking. 
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Re: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Mike Rambo

Jim Holthaus wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Mike Rambo wrote:
  the box refused to start the dhcp server daemon
  with the error that it couldn't bind to the IP address because it was
  already in use.  There is and was nothing else on the same IP address as
  the server but the only way I found to resolve that problem was to put
  the server on a different IP address.  That's a wierd one I've never
  seen before.
 
 There was probably another computer on the subnet with the same IP address.

That was my first thought.  We ended up getting a new hub out of the van
and hooking the server up to that hub on the table which went nowhere. 
Rebooting the server yielded the same results - dhcpd still found the
address already in use.  We then put the server back into the building
network and reset the IP address.  After a reboot dhcpd worked fine.  We
pinged the original IP.  Nothing was there.  I don't know what this was
but it definitely appeared to be something in the server itself to me.

 
  Now this morning I'm starting to get more complaints that the access
  problem has returned to some degree.  Only a few computers in the school
  can access one of the important programs.
 
 Start by looking at what's changed since the system last worked. Did you
 accidentally break something while trying to fix things yesterday? Do all
 of the clients know the new address of the server? After that, start working on
 network troubleshooting. Make sure your underlying communications between the
 server and clients works. Once you are confident of this, look at software
 specific problems like record locking.

The only thing we changed was the server IP address.  It appears the
last day the server really worked right was three (now four) days ago. 
At least that was when the complaints started and it coincided with when
the log files started to show syslog restarts every 15 seconds or so. 
We haven't changed anything on the server for almost a month and even
then the work was only to install some new software (math blaster or
something) in a shared folder.  I'll look into the underlying network
when I next get out there - we did have a switch go down a couple of
weeks ago in another building.  Possibility I guess.

Thanks for the response.


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RE: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Bill Shirley


I don't understand, dhcpd should just use the address of the NIC.  How
does it know "the address is already in use"?

Perhaps there is more that one dhcpd running on the box.  What does the
log file say?  What does the output from ifconfig say?  What does your
dhcpd.conf file say?

Bill

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 Jim Holthaus wrote:
  
  
  On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Mike Rambo wrote:
   the box refused to start the dhcp server daemon
   with the error that it couldn't bind to the IP address 
 because it was
   already in use.  There is and was nothing else on the 
 same IP address as
   the server but the only way I found to resolve that 
 problem was to put
   the server on a different IP address.  That's a wierd one 
 I've never
   seen before.
  
  There was probably another computer on the subnet with the 
 same IP address.
 
 That was my first thought.  We ended up getting a new hub out 
 of the van
 and hooking the server up to that hub on the table which went 
 nowhere. 
 Rebooting the server yielded the same results - dhcpd still found the
 address already in use.  We then put the server back into the building
 network and reset the IP address.  After a reboot dhcpd 
 worked fine.  We
 pinged the original IP.  Nothing was there.  I don't know 
 what this was
 but it definitely appeared to be something in the server itself to me.
 
  
   Now this morning I'm starting to get more complaints that 
 the access
   problem has returned to some degree.  Only a few 
 computers in the school
   can access one of the important programs.
  
  Start by looking at what's changed since the system last 
 worked. Did you
  accidentally break something while trying to fix things 
 yesterday? Do all
  of the clients know the new address of the server? After 
 that, start working on
  network troubleshooting. Make sure your underlying 
 communications between the
  server and clients works. Once you are confident of this, 
 look at software
  specific problems like record locking.
 
 The only thing we changed was the server IP address.  It appears the
 last day the server really worked right was three (now four) 
 days ago. 
 At least that was when the complaints started and it 
 coincided with when
 the log files started to show syslog restarts every 15 seconds or so. 
 We haven't changed anything on the server for almost a month and even
 then the work was only to install some new software (math blaster or
 something) in a shared folder.  I'll look into the underlying network
 when I next get out there - we did have a switch go down a couple of
 weeks ago in another building.  Possibility I guess.
 
 Thanks for the response.
 
 
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RE: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Phil Connor


I don't understand, dhcpd should just use the address of the NIC.  How
does it know "the address is already in use"?

Nope! try setting the ipaddress for DHCPD as .0 example 192.168.20.0 and
then set your range to start with your nic address like 192.168.20.20 -
192.168.20.40

Perhaps there is more that one dhcpd running on the box.  What does the
log file say?  What does the output from ifconfig say?  What does your
dhcpd.conf file say?

Only if he has several or virtual address's which will all have to have an
entry/declaration even if their not used to give address out.

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