Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
Okay Alan, thanks! I learn more each day, I hope they will stand behind these disks too. This is my first try with CheapBytes I hope it's not "too good to be true". Thanks again! vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > vernthe cheaper ones are mass produced, usually by an > outside contractor and the more expensive ones are burned > individually by a CD-R usually in-house. The pre-oder is > because of the lead time required by the outside contractor to > produce a significant order (don't know how many probably 1000 > or more) and ship it to CheapBytes. > > Alan > > vern wrote: > > > > I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is > > called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? > > Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about > > half the price of the other. So having much more time than > > money guess which I sent away for?? > > vern > > > > Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > > > > > Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your > > > CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan > > > Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not > > > ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get > > > master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of > > > MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's > > > that they sell. > > > > > > What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. > > > > > > Alan > > > > > >
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
vernthe cheaper ones are mass produced, usually by an outside contractor and the more expensive ones are burned individually by a CD-R usually in-house. The pre-oder is because of the lead time required by the outside contractor to produce a significant order (don't know how many probably 1000 or more) and ship it to CheapBytes. Alan vern wrote: > > I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is > called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? > Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about > half the price of the other. So having much more time than > money guess which I sent away for?? > vern > > Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > > > Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your > > CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan > > Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not > > ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get > > master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of > > MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's > > that they sell. > > > > What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. > > > > Alan > > > > Benjamin Sher wrote: > > > > > > Dear Civilme and friends: > > > > > > I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug > > > in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in > > > all the mirror sites. > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done? > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) > > > From: Jean-loup Gailly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > References: 1 > > > > > > Benjamin wrote: > > > > > > > Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new > > > > Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. > > > > > > Thanks for your report. > > > > > > Response from Jean-loup Gailly: > > > > > > "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but > > > the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the > > > directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites." > > > > > > Jean-loup Gailly > > > > > > He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img) > > > will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD > > > (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure > > > that all mirrors are functioning properly. > > > > > > Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from > > > LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd > > > 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies > > > that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for > > > individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL > > > Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain) > > > from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth > > > every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that > > > and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more > > > pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was > > > really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my > > > peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness > > > should finally be over. > > > > > > Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It > > > was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their > > > Mandrake. > > > > > > And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I > > > believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never > > > guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this > > > fatal FTP download bug. > > > > > > I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing > > > them of this situation. I hope he does. > > > > > > Benjamin > > > > > > -- > > > Benjamin and Anna Sher > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sher's Russian Web > > > http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about half the price of the other. So having much more time than money guess which I sent away for?? vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your > CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan > Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not > ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get > master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of > MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's > that they sell. > > What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. > > Alan > > Benjamin Sher wrote: > > > > Dear Civilme and friends: > > > > I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug > > in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in > > all the mirror sites. > > > > Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done? > > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) > > From: Jean-loup Gailly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > References: 1 > > > > Benjamin wrote: > > > > > Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new > > > Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. > > > > Thanks for your report. > > > > Response from Jean-loup Gailly: > > > > "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but > > the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the > > directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites." > > > > Jean-loup Gailly > > > > He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img) > > will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD > > (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure > > that all mirrors are functioning properly. > > > > Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from > > LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd > > 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies > > that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for > > individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL > > Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain) > > from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth > > every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that > > and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more > > pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was > > really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my > > peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness > > should finally be over. > > > > Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It > > was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their > > Mandrake. > > > > And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I > > believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never > > guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this > > fatal FTP download bug. > > > > I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing > > them of this situation. I hope he does. > > > > Benjamin > > > > -- > > Benjamin and Anna Sher > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sher's Russian Web > > http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
Dear Alan and friends: I appreciate knowing that LinuxLand produces their CD's from master CD's sent to them by MandrakeSoft directly from Paris. That is the way it should be. I had problems of all sorts with my installation, and, since now I can firmly rule out LinuxLand as a possible cause, I must ascribe them to either a lack of familiarity on my part with 7.1 or some other cause. At any rate, there is only one way for me to be absolutely sure and that is to get Mandrake's Official Power Pack and then I can discuss any problems or anomalies with the people at MandrakeSoft under the terms of the free 100 day email support. And when discussing it with them, I can be sure that we are talking about THEIR CD's and no one else's. The problems I had were NOT with installation but POST-installation. Again, I do not want to get into particulars because it would not be fair to anyone. Needless to say, that if, as we now know, LinuxLand burned their CD's from a MandrakeSoft master CD, then it probably has nothing to do with them. I just got my PowerPack 7.0 from LinuxMall. I will get my PowerPack 7.1 from them when it comes out. No more FTP downloads for me (except for individual packages when needed). Thanks so much. Benjamin Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your > CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan > Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not > ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get > master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of > MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's > that they sell. > > What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. > > Alan > > Benjamin Sher wrote: > > > > Dear Civilme and friends: > > > > I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug > > in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in > > all the mirror sites. > > > > Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done? > > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) > > From: Jean-loup Gailly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > References: 1 > > > > Benjamin wrote: > > > > > Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new > > > Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. > > > > Thanks for your report. > > > > Response from Jean-loup Gailly: > > > > "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but > > the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the > > directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites." > > > > Jean-loup Gailly > > > > He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img) > > will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD > > (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure > > that all mirrors are functioning properly. > > > > Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from > > LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd > > 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies > > that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for > > individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL > > Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain) > > from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth > > every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that > > and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more > > pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was > > really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my > > peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness > > should finally be over. > > > > Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It > > was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their > > Mandrake. > > > > And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I > > believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never > > guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this > > fatal FTP download bug. > > > > I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing > > them of this situation. I hope he does. > > > > Benjamin > > > > -- > > Benjamin and Anna Sher > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sher's Russian Web > > http://www.websher.net -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's that they sell. What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: > > Dear Civilme and friends: > > I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug > in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in > all the mirror sites. > > Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done? > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) > From: Jean-loup Gailly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > References: 1 > > Benjamin wrote: > > > Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new > > Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. > > Thanks for your report. > > Response from Jean-loup Gailly: > > "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but > the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the > directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites." > > Jean-loup Gailly > > He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img) > will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD > (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure > that all mirrors are functioning properly. > > Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from > LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd > 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies > that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for > individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL > Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain) > from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth > every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that > and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more > pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was > really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my > peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness > should finally be over. > > Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It > was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their > Mandrake. > > And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I > believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never > guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this > fatal FTP download bug. > > I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing > them of this situation. I hope he does. > > Benjamin > > -- > Benjamin and Anna Sher > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sher's Russian Web > http://www.websher.net
