Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Bug Hunter


  the satellite service works in conjunction with your current ISP.
requests are sent via the current isp connection to the satellite
provider's main computers.  they obtain the information and spool it over
the satellite link.  This can take a few seconds to get started. on small
pages, this introduces more delay than a slow isp.


On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Guillermo Belli wrote:

> Hello:
> 
> My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> 
> thaks.



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Civileme

D HOPP wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Guillermo Belli wrote:
>
> I don't know about the satellite working but I defiantly recommend waiting
> for cable and if you can wait and are eligible get DSL.  Both connections
> are quick and a lot better then dialup.
>
> Dennis
>
> > Hello:
> >
> > My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> > internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> > fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> > of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> > available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> > more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> >
> > thaks.
> >
> > --
> > Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
> > ICQ #38321312
> > http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
> >

Satellite can give you up to 400K download, so they advertise.

But most satellite transponders peak out at about 70K so the 400K would likely have
to be multi-threaded in some way

And you STILL need your ISP to dialup to at 33.6 for the upload side.  Satellite is
strictly one-way unless you have an 8-foot dish and some fancy transmission equipment
and a few dozen licenses and  (OR an iridium phone)

Wait for cable or ADSL.  And your ISP is probably smart to not offer 56K service.
With all the software modems running round that have considerable problems at that
speed, he's keeping his costs (and probably yours as well) down.

And 33.6 isn't that different from 48 which is what I feel lucky to achieve when I
can get it.  Mostly, my ISP lets me have about 20-25K on the 56K lines and just about
the same on his 33.6 lines.  And I'll likely never see ADSL or Cable here because we
have no hard line to the internet or even to other phone companies.  We go through
some lightly loaded communications satellites.

Civileme




Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> 
You'll still need an "upstream" connection via land-line
(phone.) I'd wait for cable, or, if cost-effective, get
ISDN.
John



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Guillermo Belli

El vie, 14 ene 2000, escribiste:

As far as I know there is no trick here, the satellite internet service is just
being introduced and they have this limited time offer: one free month with no
installation fee. The cable company has to finish upgrading their wiring to
optic fiber for the service to be available. Satellite internet service is the
only high speed internet acces for now...

> What kind of connection speed do you get compared to cable modem?
> 
> Do you have to sign up for a minimum period of time?
> 
> How soon till you can get cable modem?
>  Kevin

I'm in Nicaragua, where do u live? The company is called InterBeeper (used to
be a pager service company)

>Who offers the satelitte service?  Cable or ASDL are not  going to be
>available where I live.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the URL, I'll check

>There is a commercial Linux driver available at www.helius.com.
>Jean-Michel Dault

-- 
Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
ICQ #38321312
http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Frank Arnold


Direct PC is one.
They are related to Direct TV, the Satelite TV people.
They should have an 800 number if no retail in your local area.
BYW, it's satelite download only. Upload is by phone.
Still, in many cases, download is where the speed is needed.
Frank Arnold
==
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Who offers the satelitte service?  Cable or ASDL are not  going to be
> available where I live.
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> > Guillermopersonally, I'd wait for the adsl.  Actually I am
> > waiting for it :-)
> > 
> > Alan
> > 
> > 
> > Guillermo Belli wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello:
> > > 
> > > My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> > > internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> > > fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> > > of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> > > available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> > > more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> > > 
> > > thaks.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
> > > ICQ #38321312
> > > http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
> > 
> 
> 



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Jean-Michel Dault


Hello,

What kind of Satellite Service is available in your area? I have lots of
experience with the DirecPC Service. It offers 400 kbps download, and the
upload is done by modem at your standard speed. It's 95% stable, and for
the 5%, you have to connect using straight dial-up. But it's here NOW, and
it's wayy faster than 33.6.

There is a commercial Linux driver available at www.helius.com.

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Guillermo Belli wrote:

> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:47:46 -0600
> From: Guillermo Belli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] ISP choice
> 
> Hello:
> 
> My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> 
> thaks.
> 
> -- 
> Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
> ICQ #38321312
> http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
> 



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Riyad Kalla

>From what I've heard about satellite ( Speedchoice I believe ) the following
things occure:

1) During big storms or just windy days the connection will go out
2) Encryption isn't all that good and can be hacked easily ( I don't know
anything about encryption, this is just what I heard )
3) Get interference from other devices using similar wave lengths I
believe...

Over all it seemed like a good idea, but from the people that have it, I
haven't heard wonderful comments.

Riyad Kalla
General Partner, Multimedia & Design
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.transitivesys.com


- Original Message -
From: "D HOPP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] ISP choice


> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Guillermo Belli wrote:
>
> I don't know about the satellite working but I defiantly recommend waiting
> for cable and if you can wait and are eligible get DSL.  Both connections
> are quick and a lot better then dialup.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> > Hello:
> >
> > My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this
turtle slow
> > internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30
monthly
> > fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does
this kind
> > of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> > available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option
is even
> > more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> >
> > thaks.
> >
> > --
> > Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
> > ICQ #38321312
> > http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
> >
>
>



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread minnrp01

Who offers the satelitte service?  Cable or ASDL are not  going to be
available where I live.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> Guillermopersonally, I'd wait for the adsl.  Actually I am
> waiting for it :-)
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> Guillermo Belli wrote:
> > 
> > Hello:
> > 
> > My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> > internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> > fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> > of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> > available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> > more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> > 
> > thaks.
> > 
> > --
> > Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
> > ICQ #38321312
> > http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
> 



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Kevin Boylan

Friday, January 14, 2000, 9:47:46 AM, you wrote:

GB> My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
GB> internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
GB> fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
GB> of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
GB> available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
GB> more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?

What kind of connection speed do you get compared to cable modem?

Do you have to sign up for a minimum period of time?

How soon till you can get cable modem?


-- 
Best regards,
 Kevin




Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread D HOPP

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Guillermo Belli wrote:

I don't know about the satellite working but I defiantly recommend waiting
for cable and if you can wait and are eligible get DSL.  Both connections
are quick and a lot better then dialup.

Dennis


> Hello:
> 
> My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> 
> thaks.
> 
> -- 
> Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
> ICQ #38321312
> http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
> 



Re: [expert] ISP choice

2000-01-14 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Guillermopersonally, I'd wait for the adsl.  Actually I am
waiting for it :-)

Alan


Guillermo Belli wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> My actual ISP does not offer 56k connections, and I'm tired of this turtle slow
> internet service. I was offered a satelite internet service, with a $30 monthly
> fee and free installation (I wont pay a cent for the hardware). Does this kind
> of service work with linux? Or do you think I should wait until cable is
> available some months from now? There will be ADSL, too, but this option is even
> more distant than cable (6-8 months or so). What do you recommend me?
> 
> thaks.
> 
> --
> Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
> ICQ #38321312
> http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)