Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-06 Thread Ed Tharp

I would say... " open case, move sound card and network card to different
PCI slots, close case and reboot, go into BOIS and disable P_N_P aware OS,
boot into LINUX, , As root, run linuxconfig,  from a console, and set up
hardware and networking from there. then see what's up... maybe you have not
set it "all the way up" again.
- Original Message -
From: "Pierre Fortin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mandrake Expert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Internet connection broken


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Mandrake folk:  duplicate eth entries...  though the core issue appears to
be
> IRQ conflict.
>
> > > > The other day I was annoyed to find that AT&T @Home cable had
changed my
> > IP
> > >  > address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and
> > > DrakProfile
> > >  > to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up,
my
> > >  > internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make
connections
> > > to
> > >  > remote sites, I get "unknown host."
> > >
> > >  You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say
you
> > are
> > >  using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it's static.  But I'm also pretty sure that my IP
address has
> > indeed changed.  Is it possible for static IPs to do that?  This is the
first
> > time it's changed ever (stayed the same for over a year, since we got
cable
> > installed).  But I always did need to type "DHCPCD -I C428830-A -h
home.com"
> > go get the network running when I logged in.  Then I put it in some
startup
> > script so I didn't need to keep typing it.
>
> DHCP "leases" an IP address; sounds like you've been getting the same IP
address
> every time...  just lucky I guess.
>
> > >  > Here's what bootup tells me:
> > >  >
> > >  > network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
> > >  > ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
> > >  > network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
> > >  > ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
> > >  > network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
> > >
> > >  Have you checked your NETMASK?
> >
> > Uhh...What is that?
>
> Usually looks like 255.255.255.0 or somesuch; not important right now
since you
> have other problems (below)
>
> > >  > I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in
Windows,
> > and
> > > it
> > >  > appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
> > >  >
> > >  > Other notes:
> > >  > NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
> > >
> > >  So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.
> >
> > I guess not.
> >
> > >  give us the output of:
> > >
> > > ifconfig
> > loLink encap:Local Loopback# Is this bad news? :)
> >   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>
> No, but the lack of an eth0 is...  hmm... I must've forgot to ask for
"dmesg"
> output...  that might be useful since the ethernet appears to be
missing...
>
> > > route -n
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
> > 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
lo
>
> Only a loopback address... to be expected since eth0 is not up; but this
> situation will not let any packets leave this machine.
>
> > > lsmod
> > Module  Size  Used by
> > parport_pc  7568   0  (autoclean)
> > parport 7744   0  (autoclean) [parport_pc]
> > lockd  32208   1  (autoclean)
> > sunrpc 54640   1  (autoclean) [lockd]
> > autofs  9456   2  (autoclean)
> > cs4232  2960   0
> > ad1848 16848   0  [cs4232]
> > uart401 6384   0  [cs4232]
> > sound  58368   0  [cs4232 ad1848 uart401]
> > soundlow 464   0  [sound]
> > soundcore   2800   6  [sound]
> > nls_cp437   3952   8

Re: [expert] Internet connection broken, + dmesg output

2001-05-06 Thread Han2097

> > > > The other day I was annoyed to find that AT&T @Home cable had changed 
> my
>  > IP
>  > >  > address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and
>  > > DrakProfile
>  > >  > to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, 
my
>  > >  > internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make 
> connections
>  > > to
>  > >  > remote sites, I get "unknown host."
>  > >
>  > >  You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say 
> you
>  > are
>  > >  using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?
>  > 
>  > I'm pretty sure it's static.  But I'm also pretty sure that my IP 
address 
> has
>  > indeed changed.  Is it possible for static IPs to do that?  This is the 
> first
>  > time it's changed ever (stayed the same for over a year, since we got 
> cable
>  > installed).  But I always did need to type "DHCPCD -I C428830-A -h home.
> com"
>  > go get the network running when I logged in.  Then I put it in some 
> startup
>  > script so I didn't need to keep typing it.
>  
>  DHCP "leases" an IP address; sounds like you've been getting the same IP 
> address
>  every time...  just lucky I guess.  

Ok, here's what I've *heard*:  My cable provider does provide static IPs.  
However, it _says_ they are dynamic to discourage people from running 
servers.  How do people who don't need DHCP connect to the internet from 
Linux, what program/script do they use then?

>  > >  > Here's what bootup tells me:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
>  > >  > ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
>  > >  > network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
>  > >  > ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
>  > >  > network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
>  > >
>  > >  Have you checked your NETMASK?
>  > 
>  > Uhh...What is that?
>  
>  Usually looks like 255.255.255.0 or somesuch; not important right now 
since 
> you
>  have other problems (below)
>  
>  > >  > I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in 
Windows,
>  > and
>  > > it
>  > >  > appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Other notes:
>  > >  > NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
>  > >
>  > >  So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.
>  > 
>  > I guess not.
>  > 
>  > >  give us the output of:
>  > >
>  > > ifconfig
>  > loLink encap:Local Loopback# Is this bad news? :)
>  >   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>  >   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
>  >   RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  >   TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>  
>  No, but the lack of an eth0 is...  hmm... I must've forgot to ask for 
"dmesg"
>  output...  that might be useful since the ethernet appears to be missing...

Here's "dmesg":

Linux version 2.2.17-21mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.3 
19991030 (prerelease)) #1 Thu Oct 5 13:16:08 CEST 2000
Detected 299290 kHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 598.02 BogoMIPS
Memory: 62764k/65512k available (1136k kernel code, 416k reserved, 1068k 
data, 128k init, 0k bigmem)
Dentry hash table entries: 8192 (order 4, 64k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k)
Page cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K  L1 D Cache: 32K
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 00
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0200, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 65536 bhash 65536)
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5 
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.13)
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks of 4096K size
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ALI15X3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 78
ALI15X3: chipset revision 32
ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x7090-0x7097, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x7098-0x709f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: QUANTUM Bigfoot TX6.0AT, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC WD205BA, ATA DISK drive
hdc: ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE 32X MAXIMUM, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda

Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-05 Thread John Wolford

The other day i was happy to be moved from one @home backbone to another, much
faster one. As a result, my ip changed. Happily, none of my scripts (firewall,
etc) are statically set up ip-wise, and so everything adjusted perfectly. Of
course i'm using dhcp to obtain my ip, and that kept working too.

If DHCP was working before @home changed ips on you, then it would work after
also. Its functionality is absolutely not dependant on what ip it gets. It is
therefore a given that whatever you changed in the configuration is the root of
your problem (not that it's your fault, neccessarily, who knows, maybe some
config utility didn't work properly). Go back and check everything over with a
fine-tooth comb. And while you're at it, ask yourself why you had to change so
much due to simple ip-change (which is itself automatic).

In case it helps, i'll give you the shell code that grabs my current ip,
whatever it is, and puts it in a variable which i can then reference throughout
the script:
eth0ip=`/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | awk '/addr:(.+)[:space:]/{print $2}' | sed
's/addr://'`

There may well be a cleaner way of getting it. To be honest, i came up with
that code quite awhile ago, and it was a real struggle - so there almost
certainly is a cleaner, simpler way of getting it, but i just haven't had time
to do it :-)

By the way, doing "ifconfig" shows that your network card is not up, right? If
it doesn't hang on the dhcp request, then that shows that the card is not being
brought up properly - but it was before, right? So it's supported in your
kernel, and the only difference between then and now is that you fiddled your
configuation. Fiddle it back :-)

I hope that helps and i hope you sort it out :-)
j



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The other day I was annoyed to find that AT&T @Home cable had changed my IP 
> address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and DrakProfile 
> to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my 
> internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections to 
> remote sites, I get "unknown host."  
> 
> Here's what bootup tells me:
> 
> network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded 
> ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable 
> network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded 
> ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization. 
> network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed 
> 
> I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in Windows, and it 
> appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
> 
> Other notes:
> NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
> (is it System Control, the thing that shows devices and related info?)- Shows
> 
> NIC to be properly configured
> HardDrak shows my card as it is, a Via-Rhine 10/100 PCI card.
> I tried running DrakProfile and getting that to set up my card.  It said 
> "loading drivers for via-rhine card" or something similar, then   complained 
> that my network card is not properly set up.
> 
> Comments:
> This is a big pain in the butt.  My system works great asides from this 
> annoying lack of connectivity.  I'm not going to make many Linux converts if 
> I can't show them a system that works with the internet.  I can also not read
> 
> my POP mail.  I miss KMail.  If you can think of *anything* at all that would
> 
> help, I would appreciate it.   Thanks.
> 
> Dan
> ICQ 4689648
> 


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Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-05 Thread Pierre Fortin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mandrake folk:  duplicate eth entries...  though the core issue appears to be
IRQ conflict.

> > > The other day I was annoyed to find that AT&T @Home cable had changed my
> IP
> >  > address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and
> > DrakProfile
> >  > to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my
> >  > internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections
> > to
> >  > remote sites, I get "unknown host."
> >
> >  You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say you
> are
> >  using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's static.  But I'm also pretty sure that my IP address has
> indeed changed.  Is it possible for static IPs to do that?  This is the first
> time it's changed ever (stayed the same for over a year, since we got cable
> installed).  But I always did need to type "DHCPCD -I C428830-A -h home.com"
> go get the network running when I logged in.  Then I put it in some startup
> script so I didn't need to keep typing it.

DHCP "leases" an IP address; sounds like you've been getting the same IP address
every time...  just lucky I guess.  

> >  > Here's what bootup tells me:
> >  >
> >  > network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
> >  > ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
> >  > network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
> >  > ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
> >  > network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
> >
> >  Have you checked your NETMASK?
> 
> Uhh...What is that?

Usually looks like 255.255.255.0 or somesuch; not important right now since you
have other problems (below)

> >  > I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in Windows,
> and
> > it
> >  > appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
> >  >
> >  > Other notes:
> >  > NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.
> >
> >  So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.
> 
> I guess not.
> 
> >  give us the output of:
> >
> > ifconfig
> loLink encap:Local Loopback# Is this bad news? :)
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
>   RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0

No, but the lack of an eth0 is...  hmm... I must've forgot to ask for "dmesg"
output...  that might be useful since the ethernet appears to be missing...

> > route -n
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
> 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo

Only a loopback address... to be expected since eth0 is not up; but this
situation will not let any packets leave this machine.

> > lsmod
> Module  Size  Used by
> parport_pc  7568   0  (autoclean)
> parport 7744   0  (autoclean) [parport_pc]
> lockd  32208   1  (autoclean)
> sunrpc 54640   1  (autoclean) [lockd]
> autofs  9456   2  (autoclean)
> cs4232  2960   0
> ad1848 16848   0  [cs4232]
> uart401 6384   0  [cs4232]
> sound  58368   0  [cs4232 ad1848 uart401]
> soundlow 464   0  [sound]
> soundcore   2800   6  [sound]
> nls_cp437   3952   8  (autoclean)
> vfat9408   4  (autoclean)
> fat30432   4  (autoclean) [vfat]
> supermount 14224   2  (autoclean)

No eth driver either.

> >
> >  and the contents of:
> >
> > /etc/modules.conf
> alias net-pf-4 ipx
> pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
> alias usb-interface usb-ohci
> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 > /proc/parport/0/irq
> alias sound-slot-0 cs4232
> options sound dmabuf=1
> alias midi opl3
> options opl3 io=0x388
> options cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10  #mpuirq
> _should be 11
> options via-rhine irq=10

So the sound card is grabbing the eth interrupt...  I'm not familiar with that
card...  need to see "dmesg" output...

> alias eth1 via-rhine  #I think DrakProfile set this up.  Ok to
> delete?

Sure.  I've seen other mails about duplicate eth entries; didn't pay attention
to the details...  I'm re-inserting expert list in case someone at Mandrake
needs to see this situation first hand.

> alias eth0 via-rhine #This is what worked before
> > /etc/resolv.conf
> search cdrrpd1.ia.home.com
> 
> nameserver 24.2.240.33
> nameserver 24.2.240.34

These resolve to proxy1 and proxy2.cdrrpd1.ia.home.com

> # ppp temp entry
> > /etc/sysconfig/network
> NETWORKING=yes
> FORWARD_IPV4=no
> DHCP_HOSTNAME=C428830-A.cdrrpd1.ia.home.com
> HOSTNAME=C428830-A.cdrrpd1.ia.home.com
> DOMAINNAME=cdrrpd1.ia

Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-05 Thread Han2097

No, they're not DNS problems.  Using actual IP addresses gives me "network 
unreachable."

Dan
ICQ 4689648

> Are you running a firewall that is using your old IP address?  Have you
>  tried connecting direct to an IP instead of a URL (dns problems?)
>  
>  BillK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> The other day I was annoyed to find that AT&T @Home cable had changed my IP
> address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and DrakProfile
> to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my
> internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections to
> remote sites, I get "unknown host."




Re: [expert] Internet connection broken

2001-05-05 Thread Pierre Fortin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> The other day I was annoyed to find that AT&T @Home cable had changed my IP
> address without my knowledge.  I played around in Linuxconf and DrakProfile
> to change system settings to reflect that.  Next time I booted up, my
> internet connection didn't work.  Now whenever I try to make connections to
> remote sites, I get "unknown host."

You are complaining about a static address issue, yet below, you say you are
using DHCP (DYNAMIC Host Configuration Protocol); which is it...?

> Here's what bootup tells me:
> 
> network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
> ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
> network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
> ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
> network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed

Have you checked your NETMASK?  

> I don't know why this would be.  I've checked my settings in Windows, and it
> appears as if everything is the same in both systems.
> 
> Other notes:
> NIC is enabled, to use DHCP.

So changing your IP address should not have been an issue.

> (is it System Control, the thing that shows devices and related info?)- Shows
> NIC to be properly configured
> HardDrak shows my card as it is, a Via-Rhine 10/100 PCI card.
> I tried running DrakProfile and getting that to set up my card.  It said
> "loading drivers for via-rhine card" or something similar, then   complained
> that my network card is not properly set up.

OK... forget the GUIs; give us the output of:

   ifconfig
   route -n
   lsmod

and the contents of:

   /etc/modules.conf
   /etc/resolv.conf
   /etc/sysconfig/network
   /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
   /proc/interrupts
   /proc/ioports

> Comments:
> This is a big pain in the butt.  My system works great asides from this
> annoying lack of connectivity.  I'm not going to make many Linux converts if
> I can't show them a system that works with the internet.  I can also not read

Most of us know this...  Making this sort of comment may actually prevent
helpful people from responding if they think they might have to debug not only a
problem; but deal with an attitude.  Just trying to help (not just you)   **'nuf
said**.

Pierre

> my POP mail.  I miss KMail.  If you can think of *anything* at all that would
> help, I would appreciate it.   Thanks.

> Dan
> ICQ 4689648

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