Re: [expert] Laplink
Darryl Gibson wrote: > I have considered using Partition Magic on the drive, but that raises > other issues such as: > > 1. My PM disk is on loan to a friend, and he has taken a unplanned > holiday out of town. > > 2. When I installed Linux on this drive, I forget where I installed > Lilo. From what I've read on the Newbie list, if Lilo is on the MBR, I > can kiss it good bye by running PM. Can I tell where Lilo is by looking > in fstab? If you made the two Partition Magic Rescue floppies and still have them, they are just as functional as the installation off CD, and you can use them. Look in /etc/lilo.conf for your lilo configuration. Run man lilo.conf for the documentation. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux. To write a poem in 17 syllables is very diffic
Re: [expert] Laplink
- Original Message - From: "Darryl Gibson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Laplink > Yes I have, in fact that is next on my to-do list. Let me bring this > list up to speed, as to why I want to transfer files. > > When I set up this file system, the hard drive was in a 486/33, with > 8megs of ram. Now its in a 586/100 with 64 megs of ram. I want to > increase my swap partition from 32megs to at least 64megs. I have loads > of free disk space, but I can't free it up. Unless there is a way to > unmount the hard drive I'm using, while I'm using it!? > > I have considered using Partition Magic on the drive, but that raises > other issues such as: > > 1. My PM disk is on loan to a friend, and he has taken a unplanned > holiday out of town. Look at GNU parted for resizing the partitions. There is even a floppy image version! > > 2. When I installed Linux on this drive, I forget where I installed > Lilo. From what I've read on the Newbie list, if Lilo is on the MBR, I > can kiss it good bye by running PM. Can I tell where Lilo is by looking > in fstab? > Look at /etc/lilo.conf. The boot= line tells you where LILO is installed. If it is /dev/hda, then it is in teh MBR; if it is /dev/hda1, then it is in the firts partition, etc. > 3. I should back up my files before messing around with the hard drive > geometry. > Back up your config files and /home directories. Can you tgz them and transfer them to a floppy? > 4. The backup method I'm used to, isn't supported in Linux, unless > parallel port tape drives have recently been supported? > I'm lost on this one. > > So many options, so many decisions, isn't Linux wonderful? > And frustrating for the same reason. 8) Hoyt
Re: [expert] Laplink
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, you wrote: > When I set up this file system, the hard drive was in a 486/33, with > 8megs of ram. Now its in a 586/100 with 64 megs of ram. I want to > increase my swap partition from 32megs to at least 64megs. I have loads > of free disk space, but I can't free it up. Unless there is a way to > unmount the hard drive I'm using, while I'm using it!? > Yep. Get a boot & root floppy, such as "Tom's Root & Boot" and boot to that. Then, having THAT mounted, you can perform all sorts of tasks... OR, (and this is a BIG "maybe) telinit to runlevel1 (single-user mode) and do the disk maintenance that way. > > I have considered using Partition Magic > on the drive, but that raises other issues such as: > > 1. My PM disk is on loan to a friend, and he has taken a unplanned > holiday out of town. > > 2. When I installed Linux on this drive, I forget where I installed > Lilo. From what I've read on the Newbie list, if Lilo is on the MBR, I > can kiss it good bye by running PM. Can I tell where Lilo is by looking > in fstab? > Nope, but if you look at your /etc/lilo.conf you should be able to tell. If it says "boot=/dev/hda" it's in the MBR. > > 3. I should back up my files before messing around with the hard drive > geometry. > Definitely. :-) > > 4. The backup method I'm used to, isn't supported in Linux, unless > parallel port tape drives have recently been supported? > Not AFAIK. Could be wrong tholinux supports the paralell port Jaz and Zip drives... :-) Good luck! John
Re: [expert] Laplink
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Darryl Gibson wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:33:30 -0400 > From: Darryl Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Laplink > > John Aldrich wrote: > > > Have you considered putting a lan card in each and using > > ssh/sftp or even just plain old ftp to copy the files over? > > What about setting up nfs and using NFS to copy 'em over > > the network? > > Yes I have, in fact that is next on my to-do list. Let me bring this > list up to speed, as to why I want to transfer files. > > When I set up this file system, the hard drive was in a 486/33, with > 8megs of ram. Now its in a 586/100 with 64 megs of ram. I want to > increase my swap partition from 32megs to at least 64megs. I have loads > of free disk space, but I can't free it up. Unless there is a way to > unmount the hard drive I'm using, while I'm using it!? > I recommend that you try to boot off a cd-rom based distro such as demolinux, www.demolinux.org, then use that to change your root-fs, or use a one-floppy distro to do the same. If you just wanted to add swap, all you have to do is: dd if=/dev/zero of=swap bs=1024 count=32k mkswap swap swapon swap > I have considered using Partition Magic on the drive, but that raises > other issues such as: > > 1. My PM disk is on loan to a friend, and he has taken a unplanned > holiday out of town. > I learned never to lend without serious consideration, as Shakespeare said something like this: "Never a borrower or lender be, as that oft raises problems" > 2. When I installed Linux on this drive, I forget where I installed > Lilo. From what I've read on the Newbie list, if Lilo is on the MBR, I > can kiss it good bye by running PM. Can I tell where Lilo is by looking > in fstab? > Lilo most commonly resides on the MBR, it is not a file, but rather a special area of the hard drive. To reinstall lilo, all you have to do is type in "lilo" as root. > 3. I should back up my files before messing around with the hard drive > geometry. > I normally don't but it is a wise idea to. > 4. The backup method I'm used to, isn't supported in Linux, unless > parallel port tape drives have recently been supported? > A lot of scsi tape drives are supported, and if your HD is not too big, you can back up on floppy disks, or zip/jaz disks. > > You *can* set up something similar to laplink using a > > terminal adapter util such as minicom and setting up on > > linux box to "answer" the phone however, from what I > > recall, you'll find a 10-megabit network a LOT faster! > > That is an option, spare modems are readily available. And I need to > look into Elick's suggestions also. > > So many options, so many decisions, isn't Linux wonderful? > > Darryl Gibson > Linux Neophyte (tm) > RLU # 182668 > This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE > -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 23
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Hoyt wrote: > That would be my recommendation. Used 10 Base-T LAN cards can be had for > just a few dollars each and a crossover cable does the trick. Someone in > yout LUG may have some you can borrow for a one-time transfer. This is the option that is making the most sense to me now. As I was intending to network the boxes anyway. Though I will need to learn PLIP to put Linux on my laptop, but I already found the docs on how to do that. I do have some ethernet cards to play with, which, along with this box, where salvaged from the Rartian River, after last years Flood of Floyd event in Bound Brook NJ., FWIW. > PLIP is not supposed to be too difficul to set up using linuxconf. I hear ya, I wrestled with PPP, for I don't know how long, before I got that to work. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
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John Aldrich wrote: > Have you considered putting a lan card in each and using > ssh/sftp or even just plain old ftp to copy the files over? > What about setting up nfs and using NFS to copy 'em over > the network? Yes I have, in fact that is next on my to-do list. Let me bring this list up to speed, as to why I want to transfer files. When I set up this file system, the hard drive was in a 486/33, with 8megs of ram. Now its in a 586/100 with 64 megs of ram. I want to increase my swap partition from 32megs to at least 64megs. I have loads of free disk space, but I can't free it up. Unless there is a way to unmount the hard drive I'm using, while I'm using it!? I have considered using Partition Magic on the drive, but that raises other issues such as: 1. My PM disk is on loan to a friend, and he has taken a unplanned holiday out of town. 2. When I installed Linux on this drive, I forget where I installed Lilo. From what I've read on the Newbie list, if Lilo is on the MBR, I can kiss it good bye by running PM. Can I tell where Lilo is by looking in fstab? 3. I should back up my files before messing around with the hard drive geometry. 4. The backup method I'm used to, isn't supported in Linux, unless parallel port tape drives have recently been supported? > You *can* set up something similar to laplink using a > terminal adapter util such as minicom and setting up on > linux box to "answer" the phone however, from what I > recall, you'll find a 10-megabit network a LOT faster! That is an option, spare modems are readily available. And I need to look into Elick's suggestions also. So many options, so many decisions, isn't Linux wonderful? Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [expert] Laplink
- Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Laplink > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > Sevatio Octavio wrote: > > > > > > I didn't catch your original question. Are you wondering about remote > > > controlling another pc? Or is this a laplink specific question? > > > > I want to transfer files between two linux boxes, using a laplink cable. > > I was hoping there would be program such as laplink or Xtree gold to > > help me set it up. I should do some further research into Midnight > > Commander, it has a file transfer command, I just need to find the docs. > > on how to set it up. > > > Have you considered putting a lan card in each and using > ssh/sftp or even just plain old ftp to copy the files over? > What about setting up nfs and using NFS to copy 'em over > the network? > That would be my recommendation. Used 10 Base-T LAN cards can be had for just a few dollars each and a crossover cable does the trick. Someone in yout LUG may have some you can borrow for a one-time transfer. PLIP is not supposed to be too difficul to set up using linuxconf. Hoyt
Re: [expert] Laplink
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Darryl Gibson wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:36:11 -0400 > From: Darryl Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Laplink > > Anton Graham wrote: > > > What about tcp/ip over a PLIP connection? Check out the Laptop and > > Net HOWTO's (I haven't doen this myself) > > That's something I hadn't thought of. I was hoping for a canned solution > though, not something that will take me another month to configure. Oh > well, this is linux, sometimes you have to roll your own. OTOH, maybe > I'll find some ready to run scripts? > Maybe you want to run another getty on a parallel port like a serial line, and use sz rz commands to send and recieve. I did that last in the 1.xx kernels, I think. -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 23
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Darryl Gibson wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:55:15 -0400 > From: Darryl Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [expert] Laplink > > Sevatio Octavio wrote: > > > > I didn't catch your original question. Are you wondering about remote > > controlling another pc? Or is this a laplink specific question? > > I want to transfer files between two linux boxes, using a laplink cable. > I was hoping there would be program such as laplink or Xtree gold to > help me set it up. I should do some further research into Midnight > Commander, it has a file transfer command, I just need to find the docs. > on how to set it up. > > > > Have you checked out VNC? It's free at > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ . All you need is a browser to > > control another pc. > > Thanks, that's a cool website. Unfortunately, VNC uses tcp/ip, and I > don't have any spare serial ports. They mention it > could be modified for rs-232, but that is way over my head. > I think you are referring to PLIP, similar to SLIP, which is Parallel line interface protocol. You can make a virtual 2-machine network using PLIP, check out the HOW-TO on www.linuxdoc.org. -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 23
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, you wrote: > Sevatio Octavio wrote: > > > > I didn't catch your original question. Are you wondering about remote > > controlling another pc? Or is this a laplink specific question? > > I want to transfer files between two linux boxes, using a laplink cable. > I was hoping there would be program such as laplink or Xtree gold to > help me set it up. I should do some further research into Midnight > Commander, it has a file transfer command, I just need to find the docs. > on how to set it up. > Have you considered putting a lan card in each and using ssh/sftp or even just plain old ftp to copy the files over? What about setting up nfs and using NFS to copy 'em over the network? You *can* set up something similar to laplink using a terminal adapter util such as minicom and setting up on linux box to "answer" the phone however, from what I recall, you'll find a 10-megabit network a LOT faster! John
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Anton Graham wrote: > What about tcp/ip over a PLIP connection? Check out the Laptop and > Net HOWTO's (I haven't doen this myself) That's something I hadn't thought of. I was hoping for a canned solution though, not something that will take me another month to configure. Oh well, this is linux, sometimes you have to roll your own. OTOH, maybe I'll find some ready to run scripts? -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
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Submitted 23-Jul-00 by Darryl Gibson: > Sevatio Octavio wrote: > > > > I didn't catch your original question. Are you wondering about remote > > controlling another pc? Or is this a laplink specific question? > > I want to transfer files between two linux boxes, using a laplink cable. > I was hoping there would be program such as laplink or Xtree gold to > help me set it up. I should do some further research into Midnight > Commander, it has a file transfer command, I just need to find the docs. > on how to set it up. > > > > Have you checked out VNC? It's free at > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ . All you need is a browser to > > control another pc. > > Thanks, that's a cool website. Unfortunately, VNC uses tcp/ip, and I > don't have any spare serial ports. They mention it > could be modified for rs-232, but that is way over my head. What about tcp/ip over a PLIP connection? Check out the Laptop and Net HOWTO's (I haven't doen this myself) -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
