Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
Yes, rpmfind.net and google i use constantly. Well, i don't always use rpmfind so much but i know about it. I like tuxfinder.com because it finds .gz and so many other extensions. thanks again :-) j --- Pedro Del Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue Feb 27 2001 13:01, You wrote: OH MY GOD. I have been needing something like tuxfinder.com for a while now! It's funny how these things can exist and we do/don't find out about it. I should mention www.rpmfind.net too and www.google.com it is a good place to start from -- Cheers, Pedro Del Medico P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #144076 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
On Tue Feb 27 2001 01:51, You wrote: Thank you Pedro! I found the iso but apparently www.tuxfind.com doesn't exist! A whois and nslookup claim that tuxfind.com is not a registered host/domain! I'll try again later. Ups I'm very sorry. The url is www.tuxfinder.com -- Best Regards, Pedro Del Medico P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #144076
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
OH MY GOD. I have been needing something like tuxfinder.com for a while now! It's funny how these things can exist and we do/don't find out about it. Thank you very much, j --- Pedro Del Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue Feb 27 2001 01:51, You wrote: Thank you Pedro! I found the iso but apparently www.tuxfind.com doesn't exist! A whois and nslookup claim that tuxfind.com is not a registered host/domain! I'll try again later. Ups I'm very sorry. The url is www.tuxfinder.com -- Best Regards, Pedro Del Medico P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #144076 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
On Tue Feb 27 2001 13:01, You wrote: OH MY GOD. I have been needing something like tuxfinder.com for a while now! It's funny how these things can exist and we do/don't find out about it. I should mention www.rpmfind.net too and www.google.com it is a good place to start from -- Cheers, Pedro Del Medico P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #144076
RE: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
My take on this is that the kernel in the distribution includes compiled in support for i-386, however should Joergen want to just have an i-386 kernel he can recompile then from the sources? regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Shoemaker Sent: 26 February 2001 08:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know were I can downloade Mandrake 7.1 for i386? Joergen Traun Joergenthere are no versions of Linux Mandrake for the i386 as they are all compiled for the i586. However there is an i486 version of Linux Mandrake 7.0-2. Below is one of the locations from which it can be downloaded: ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/i486/mandra ke70-2.i486.iso -- Alan
RE: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
Actually Mandrakesoft compiles almost everything using the i686 flag. This way everything is optimized for 686 processors. Correct me if I am wrong though. NeoFax -Original Message- From: Daryl Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 My take on this is that the kernel in the distribution includes compiled in support for i-386, however should Joergen want to just have an i-386 kernel he can recompile then from the sources? regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Shoemaker Sent: 26 February 2001 08:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know were I can downloade Mandrake 7.1 for i386? Joergen Traun Joergenthere are no versions of Linux Mandrake for the i386 as they are all compiled for the i586. However there is an i486 version of Linux Mandrake 7.0-2. Below is one of the locations from which it can be downloaded: ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/i486/mandra ke70-2.i486.iso -- Alan
RE: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
No correction required I don't think ;o) I am suggesting though that he should be able to get the system running on a 386 from a standard distribution and then recompile - omitting all the processor options that won't be required. regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Milnes Terry SSgt 52LSS/LGLOE Sent: 26 February 2001 10:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Actually Mandrakesoft compiles almost everything using the i686 flag. This way everything is optimized for 686 processors. Correct me if I am wrong though. NeoFax -Original Message- From: Daryl Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My take on this is that the kernel in the distribution includes compiled in support for i-386, however should Joergen want to just have an i-386 kernel he can recompile then from the sources? regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Shoemaker Sent: 26 February 2001 08:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know were I can downloade Mandrake 7.1 for i386? Joergen Traun Joergenthere are no versions of Linux Mandrake for the i386 as they are all compiled for the i586. However there is an i486 version of Linux Mandrake 7.0-2. Below is one of the locations from which it can be downloaded: ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/i486/mandra ke70-2.i486.iso -- Alan
RE: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
What ever happened to 7.1?? One day i was browsing through 7.1 RPMS on a mirror site and the next day they were all gone and i couldn't find any mention of 7.1 ANYWHERE. It's like it never existed. (I know it did exist and no i'm not crazy, because i've got a copy of it burned to disk.) Did that not have i386 packages etc? I thought it did, but i don't remember Still, why did 7.1 disappear like that? j --- Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No correction required I don't think ;o) I am suggesting though that he should be able to get the system running on a 386 from a standard distribution and then recompile - omitting all the processor options that won't be required. regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Milnes Terry SSgt 52LSS/LGLOE Sent: 26 February 2001 10:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Actually Mandrakesoft compiles almost everything using the i686 flag. This way everything is optimized for 686 processors. Correct me if I am wrong though. NeoFax -Original Message- From: Daryl Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My take on this is that the kernel in the distribution includes compiled in support for i-386, however should Joergen want to just have an i-386 kernel he can recompile then from the sources? regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Shoemaker Sent: 26 February 2001 08:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know were I can downloade Mandrake 7.1 for i386? Joergen Traun Joergenthere are no versions of Linux Mandrake for the i386 as they are all compiled for the i586. However there is an i486 version of Linux Mandrake 7.0-2. Below is one of the locations from which it can be downloaded: ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/i486/mandra ke70-2.i486.iso -- Alan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
El Lun 26 Feb 2001 16:46, escribiste: What ever happened to 7.1?? One day i was browsing through 7.1 RPMS on a mirror site and the next day they were all gone and i couldn't find any mention of 7.1 ANYWHERE. It's like it never existed. (I know it did exist Hey my friend, before you go crazy check this: ftp://ftp.linux.com/mounts/u1/mirrors/iso/ I also suggest to do a www.tuxfind.com search and check the .src.rpm / i386.rpm /.noarch.rpm and other rpm buttons and uncheck the others. and try mandrake-release-7.1. May you have luck. -- Best Regards, Pedro Del Medico P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #144076
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
Thank you Pedro! I found the iso but apparently www.tuxfind.com doesn't exist! A whois and nslookup claim that tuxfind.com is not a registered host/domain! I'll try again later. Anyway, thanks :-) j --- Pedro Del Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Lun 26 Feb 2001 16:46, escribiste: What ever happened to 7.1?? One day i was browsing through 7.1 RPMS on a mirror site and the next day they were all gone and i couldn't find any mention of 7.1 ANYWHERE. It's like it never existed. (I know it did exist Hey my friend, before you go crazy check this: ftp://ftp.linux.com/mounts/u1/mirrors/iso/ I also suggest to do a www.tuxfind.com search and check the .src.rpm / i386.rpm /.noarch.rpm and other rpm buttons and uncheck the others. and try mandrake-release-7.1. May you have luck. -- Best Regards, Pedro Del Medico P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #144076 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Menu Update
Tom Berkley wrote: I tried to use the menu update command in the 7.1 mandrake (kde 1.2) desktop and got the message menu edit not installed. After looking for a while nothing stood out. If anyone can enlighten me about which rpm contains the kde menu editor (note this is 7.1 not 7.2), I would appreciate it. Thanks. Tom Berkley Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Try from the main menu 'Configuration - Other - Menu Editor': On mine, the 'Edit Menus' in the Panel section doesn't function either. Failing that, kmenuedit is in /usr/bin, and is part of kdebase. From there you can get it working: but NOT the one in the Panel sectiom. Ronnie Whipp == Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and SCSI install probs
Thanks. Nice to hear I'm not alone in the world! At 11:43 PM 7/31/2000 +0200, you wrote: On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 21:49 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I have the following: Adaptec 2940 UW Mine is a DawiControl with SymbiosLogic chip SCSI ID 3 is a Plextor PX-32TS 32X CD-ROM Mine is a Plextor UltraPlex40max As CDRW I have a Plextor PlexWriter 4/2/2 When I boot the Mandrake 7.1 CD - after the bus scan, it asks which SCSI CDROM to use, scsi0 or scsi1 I have tried both, but the follow occurs when I try scsi0 (the plextor drive) 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0 4 sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 6x/6x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray 7 VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,0) scsi0:0:3:-1 Unexpected busfree, LASTPHASE = 0xa0, SEQADDR = 0x15d Then a timeout occurs and it says unable to read scsi0 - check that CD is in the tray Same here but later. I get over the preliminaries until partitioning and formatting is done. When it comes to choose the packages for installation I get the same timeout as you. The system work fine with other OSs including Mandrake 7.0 NO PROBLEM!! Same here. It works perfect with MDK 6.x, 7.0 and 7.1. It just dies during installation. I posted this twice here and to Mandrake directly. Never got an answer on the list, just this single "old or low-budget hardware" mail which should be ignored. I did a work-around with a harddisk-installation. OK, but that's not perfect, is it? How can I do a demo of the Ease of Installation when I have to start making a bootdisk and copying the files from a perfectly working CD-ROM to a harddisk for a start? wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html ** (¯`·.¸¸.- F O X Consulting Services -.¸¸.·´¯) Voice: +1 (650) 369-7369 Fax: +1 (650) 429-2122 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]or [EMAIL PROTECTED] FCS Web Page: http://foxconsult.com ** Currently in Europe - Contact: +49/172-9600938 GSM Mobile ** **
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and SCSI install probs
- Original Message - From: "Wolfgang Bornath" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and SCSI install probs On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 21:49 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I have the following: Adaptec 2940 UW Excuse this interruption, BTW, any one knows how/where to get scsi drivers not included in mandrake? Thanks in advance. Mine is a DawiControl with SymbiosLogic chip SCSI ID 3 is a Plextor PX-32TS 32X CD-ROM Mine is a Plextor UltraPlex40max As CDRW I have a Plextor PlexWriter 4/2/2 When I boot the Mandrake 7.1 CD - after the bus scan, it asks which SCSI CDROM to use, scsi0 or scsi1 I have tried both, but the follow occurs when I try scsi0 (the plextor drive) 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0 4 sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 6x/6x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray 7 VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,0) scsi0:0:3:-1 Unexpected busfree, LASTPHASE = 0xa0, SEQADDR = 0x15d Then a timeout occurs and it says unable to read scsi0 - check that CD is in the tray Same here but later. I get over the preliminaries until partitioning and formatting is done. When it comes to choose the packages for installation I get the same timeout as you. The system work fine with other OSs including Mandrake 7.0 NO PROBLEM!! Same here. It works perfect with MDK 6.x, 7.0 and 7.1. It just dies during installation. I posted this twice here and to Mandrake directly. Never got an answer on the list, just this single "old or low-budget hardware" mail which should be ignored. I did a work-around with a harddisk-installation. OK, but that's not perfect, is it? How can I do a demo of the Ease of Installation when I have to start making a bootdisk and copying the files from a perfectly working CD-ROM to a harddisk for a start? wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and SCSI install probs
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 21:49 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I have the following: Adaptec 2940 UW Mine is a DawiControl with SymbiosLogic chip SCSI ID 3 is a Plextor PX-32TS 32X CD-ROM Mine is a Plextor UltraPlex40max As CDRW I have a Plextor PlexWriter 4/2/2 When I boot the Mandrake 7.1 CD - after the bus scan, it asks which SCSI CDROM to use, scsi0 or scsi1 I have tried both, but the follow occurs when I try scsi0 (the plextor drive) 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0 4 sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 6x/6x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray 7 VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,0) scsi0:0:3:-1 Unexpected busfree, LASTPHASE = 0xa0, SEQADDR = 0x15d Then a timeout occurs and it says unable to read scsi0 - check that CD is in the tray Same here but later. I get over the preliminaries until partitioning and formatting is done. When it comes to choose the packages for installation I get the same timeout as you. The system work fine with other OSs including Mandrake 7.0 NO PROBLEM!! Same here. It works perfect with MDK 6.x, 7.0 and 7.1. It just dies during installation. I posted this twice here and to Mandrake directly. Never got an answer on the list, just this single "old or low-budget hardware" mail which should be ignored. I did a work-around with a harddisk-installation. OK, but that's not perfect, is it? How can I do a demo of the Ease of Installation when I have to start making a bootdisk and copying the files from a perfectly working CD-ROM to a harddisk for a start? wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and SCSI install probs
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Robert Fox wrote: = I have installed 7.1 several times on several machines without much = hassle. But my main system which worked perfectly with 7.0 won't allow me = to install with 7.1 = = I have the following: Adaptec 2940 UW = = SCSI ID 3 is a Plextor PX-32TS 32X CD-ROM = SCSI ID 5 is a Yamaha CDRW 4260 - (end termination) = = When I boot the Mandrake 7.1 CD - after the bus scan, it asks which SCSI = CDROM to use, scsi0 or scsi1 = = I have tried both, but the follow occurs when I try scsi0 (the plextor drive) = 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 = 4 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0 = 4 sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 6x/6x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray = 7 VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,0) The line immediately above makes me think that it's looking for a CD in the drive. = scsi0:0:3:-1 Unexpected busfree, LASTPHASE = 0xa0, SEQADDR = 0x15d = = Then a timeout occurs and it says unable to read scsi0 - check that CD is = in the tray Well, then, this does too. I know it's silly, but why not try it with a CD in the drive. Maybe not so silly. If it's trying to mount, it'll fail if there's no CD in the tray. = = The system work fine with other OSs including Mandrake 7.0 NO PROBLEM!! = = Any help would be appreciated!! = ** = (¯`·.¸¸.- F O X Consulting Services -.¸¸.·´¯) = Europe Voice: +49/(0)172-9600938Fax: +49/(0)89-9218 =E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] = FCS Web Page: http://foxconsult.com = USA Voice: +1 (650) 369-7369 Fax: +1 (650) 429-2122 = ** = hth, kf -- Familiarity breeds contempt. -- Publius Syrus (42 B.C.), Maxim 640
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Networking Woes.
Chris Abiad wrote: In my house, we've got a cable modem (from @Home) coming into a Win98 machine (I know...) running Sygate that's doing the network address translation (IP Masquerading/routing/proxying/whatever) for us. This machine has two NICs. One goes out to @Home, the other comes in to a hub. Each of us (6 ppl total) has a computer that we attach (well, logically if not directly..we have two hubs hooked together through the uplink port). Linux output from "route" command (run as root): routing table Dest GwGenMaskMetric Iface 192.168.0.0* 255.255.255.0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 0 lo One thing I notice - if this is the gateway machine it has no default route set up. Without this, nothing will ever go out on to the net. As root do: route add default eth0 or whichever eth is the cable modem internet interface. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 hangs up with screen saver program
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Hi, folks After running smoothly about five days, my linux box finally hangs up with screen saver program. I remember it happens several times before. Software Environment: Mandrake7.1 with Helix GNOME lastest version, Xscreensaver Any ideas to fix this problem? Any idea what the temp inside your box is? I think that was a factor in my system hanging awhile back. Then I got a bigger case with more air-flow room and it hasn't locked up since (knock on wood! G) John
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Vic wrote:
I just type
hdparm -c3d1 /dev/hda
for the first ide drive
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Hi all,
I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any
good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake
from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it
was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the
BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that
is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the
drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface.
I have tried doing "hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/hde" but the system just locks up
after a few seconds. I've also tried various variations on that but none seem
to work and most lock the machine up.
Here is a sample of the output from hdparm:
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -i /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Model=ST317242A, FwRev=3.09, SerialNo=7BP03H3M
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=33683328
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 23.67 seconds = 2.70 MB/sec
as you can see I'm only getting 2.7 MB/sec when I should be able to get around
20MB/sec
Here is info from dmesg regarding HPT366:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
HPT366: onboard version of chipset, pin1=1 pin2=2
PCI: HPT366: Fixing interrupt 18 pin 2 to ZERO
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 98
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 99
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc400-0xc407, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, ATA DISK drive
hdc: E-IDE CD-ROM CR-854E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hde: ST317242A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide2 at 0xb000-0xb007,0xb402 on irq 18
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, 3337MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=847/128/63
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, 3339MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=848/128/63
hde: ST317242A, 16446MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=33416/16/63
hdc: ATAPI 54X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Here are the entries from /proc/pci:
Bus 0, device 19, function 0:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max
Lat=8.
I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001].
I/O at 0xb400 [0xb401].
I/O at 0xb800 [0xb801].
Bus 0, device 19, function 1:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max
Lat=8.
I/O at 0xbc00 [0xbc01].
I/O at 0xc000 [0xc001].
I/O at 0xc400 [0xc401].
(Just to be pedantic) here is other info from /proc:
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 50435 40884IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 1528955IO-APIC-edge keyboard
2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 3 0IO-APIC-edge soundblaster
8: 0 1IO-APIC-edge rtc
12: 3459 4142IO-APIC-edge PS/2 Mouse
13: 1 0 XT-PIC fpu
14:136 88IO-APIC-edge ide0
15: 2 0IO-APIC-edge ide1
17: 10 13 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
18: 33817 33596 IO-APIC-level ide2, eth0
19: 37 31 IO-APIC-level eth1
NMI: 0
ERR: 0
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat dma
3: SoundBlaster8
4: cascade
5: SoundBlaster16
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat ioports
-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0220-022f
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
Hey all, I just wanted to follow up and tell how I got it to work. Its kind of cheating but I downloaded the Gentus distribution and stole the kernel that comes with it and put it in my mandrake 7.1. I'm now getting about 6 times the performance out of my UDMA66 drive. The kernel doesn't have the USB module and it looks like kheader doesn't work but otherwise everything else seems to work fine. Paul On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote: Hi all, I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface. [snip] If you were to put this to Abit, they would first ask you whether you are using the special UDMA66 drive cables. It can make a big difference. Steve Stephen B. Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
Could you tell us, step by step, how you did this? Thank You Paul Gratz wrote: Hey all, I just wanted to follow up and tell how I got it to work. Its kind of cheating but I downloaded the Gentus distribution and stole the kernel that comes with it and put it in my mandrake 7.1. I'm now getting about 6 times the performance out of my UDMA66 drive. The kernel doesn't have the USB module and it looks like kheader doesn't work but otherwise everything else seems to work fine. Paul On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote: Hi all, I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface. [snip] If you were to put this to Abit, they would first ask you whether you are using the special UDMA66 drive cables. It can make a big difference. Steve Stephen B. Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, you wrote: Hey all, I just wanted to follow up and tell how I got it to work. Its kind of cheating but I downloaded the Gentus distribution and stole the kernel that comes with it and put it in my mandrake 7.1. I'm now getting about 6 times the performance out of my UDMA66 drive. The kernel doesn't have the USB module and it looks like kheader doesn't work but otherwise everything else seems to work fine. Paul Ya know, if I wasn't so tired of all the kids postin about how they finally got ata/66 to work, I wouldn't make the challenge ... but wTF, often i'm stupid so now that you've finally got 'more problems than it's worth'/'hyped up'/'tryin to sell the masses new hardware' ...going by hook or b' golly post a hdparm -Tt/dev/whatever ?? does it do 142+ mb/sec over 22+ mb/sec? and was it worth it ? ata/33 on a decent BX does with -0- hassle *most any kernel* kids these days an' what they'll fall for... ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
[snip]
recompile for 386 code, kernel and driver.
The Seagate IDE drive is marginal at the timing and signal gating
requirements of 586 code and often locks up. So do MOST WDs,
though some of them will work without the Xxx parm and often run
close to the UDMA66 speed required.
Read kernel traffic in February to learn why. It has to do with
the fact that drive and chipset mfgrs are assuming timing for 386
code instead of the "official" specs for the interface, and 586
code timing is tighter, hence reflections on signal gating lines
that should NOT be there are being observed.
IBMs, Maxtors, and Quantums in the same position on the same
board seem to work just fine.
Civileme
Thanks! I'll give that a shot. (BTW for the guy who asked if I have
the special ribbon cable, yeah I do).
{rant on} Man that is really crappy that I have to do this, I paid
extra for a UDMA66 drive only to find out it doesn't work quite as
advertised. If it wasn't already several months since I bought it I'd
return it {rant off}
Now the real question is, is it worth the degredation in kernel speed
to run an i386 kernel with UDMA66 or i586 w/o it?
Thanks to everyone who has helped me!
Paul
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
I just type
hdparm -c3d1 /dev/hda
for the first ide drive
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Hi all,
I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any
good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake
from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it
was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the
BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that
is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the
drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface.
I have tried doing "hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/hde" but the system just locks up
after a few seconds. I've also tried various variations on that but none seem
to work and most lock the machine up.
Here is a sample of the output from hdparm:
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -i /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Model=ST317242A, FwRev=3.09, SerialNo=7BP03H3M
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=33683328
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 23.67 seconds = 2.70 MB/sec
as you can see I'm only getting 2.7 MB/sec when I should be able to get around
20MB/sec
Here is info from dmesg regarding HPT366:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
HPT366: onboard version of chipset, pin1=1 pin2=2
PCI: HPT366: Fixing interrupt 18 pin 2 to ZERO
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 98
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 99
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc400-0xc407, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, ATA DISK drive
hdc: E-IDE CD-ROM CR-854E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hde: ST317242A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide2 at 0xb000-0xb007,0xb402 on irq 18
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, 3337MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=847/128/63
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, 3339MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=848/128/63
hde: ST317242A, 16446MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=33416/16/63
hdc: ATAPI 54X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Here are the entries from /proc/pci:
Bus 0, device 19, function 0:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001].
I/O at 0xb400 [0xb401].
I/O at 0xb800 [0xb801].
Bus 0, device 19, function 1:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xbc00 [0xbc01].
I/O at 0xc000 [0xc001].
I/O at 0xc400 [0xc401].
(Just to be pedantic) here is other info from /proc:
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 50435 40884IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 1528955IO-APIC-edge keyboard
2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 3 0IO-APIC-edge soundblaster
8: 0 1IO-APIC-edge rtc
12: 3459 4142IO-APIC-edge PS/2 Mouse
13: 1 0 XT-PIC fpu
14:136 88IO-APIC-edge ide0
15: 2 0IO-APIC-edge ide1
17: 10 13 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
18: 33817 33596 IO-APIC-level ide2, eth0
19: 37 31 IO-APIC-level eth1
NMI: 0
ERR: 0
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat dma
3: SoundBlaster8
4: cascade
5: SoundBlaster16
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat ioports
-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0220-022f : soundblaster
0330-0333 : MPU-401 UART
0376-0376 : ide1
0388-038b : Yamaha OPL3
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
a400-a41f : eth1
a800-a8ff :
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
Hi Paul, I am running NT4.0 and Linux 7.0-2 smp mode on the ide3 port.
Nt is on hde drive, and linux is on the second drive at hdf. I do not
have any hard drives on the ide1 ide2 or ide4 ports. My CD-ROMS are on
ide1 port, and this setup works very well. I have a very stable system,
and am using the original High Point drivers that came on the disk.
Running 2 Celerons at 466 MHZ not over clocked, right now. System staty
cool and can run the PS test with out crashing. For a lot of help with
the BP6 board you should check out the message board at
http://www.bp6.com/forum , those guys have all the answers that you will
ever need.
ttyl,
Don
Paul Gratz wrote:
Hi all,
I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any
good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake
from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it
was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the
BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that
is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the
drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface.
I have tried doing "hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/hde" but the system just locks up
after a few seconds. I've also tried various variations on that but none seem
to work and most lock the machine up.
Here is a sample of the output from hdparm:
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -i /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Model=ST317242A, FwRev=3.09, SerialNo=7BP03H3M
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=33683328
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 23.67 seconds = 2.70 MB/sec
as you can see I'm only getting 2.7 MB/sec when I should be able to get around
20MB/sec
Here is info from dmesg regarding HPT366:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
HPT366: onboard version of chipset, pin1=1 pin2=2
PCI: HPT366: Fixing interrupt 18 pin 2 to ZERO
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 98
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 99
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc400-0xc407, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, ATA DISK drive
hdc: E-IDE CD-ROM CR-854E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hde: ST317242A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide2 at 0xb000-0xb007,0xb402 on irq 18
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, 3337MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=847/128/63
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, 3339MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=848/128/63
hde: ST317242A, 16446MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=33416/16/63
hdc: ATAPI 54X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Here are the entries from /proc/pci:
Bus 0, device 19, function 0:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001].
I/O at 0xb400 [0xb401].
I/O at 0xb800 [0xb801].
Bus 0, device 19, function 1:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xbc00 [0xbc01].
I/O at 0xc000 [0xc001].
I/O at 0xc400 [0xc401].
(Just to be pedantic) here is other info from /proc:
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 50435 40884IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 1528955IO-APIC-edge keyboard
2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 3 0IO-APIC-edge soundblaster
8: 0 1IO-APIC-edge rtc
12: 3459 4142IO-APIC-edge PS/2 Mouse
13: 1 0 XT-PIC fpu
14:136 88IO-APIC-edge ide0
15: 2 0IO-APIC-edge ide1
17: 10 13 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
18: 33817 33596 IO-APIC-level ide2, eth0
19: 37 31 IO-APIC-level eth1
NMI: 0
ERR: 0
[root@gratz1 /proc]#
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
Vic wrote:
I just type
hdparm -c3d1 /dev/hda
for the first ide drive
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Hi all,
I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any
good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake
from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it
was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the
BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that
is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the
drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface.
I have tried doing "hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/hde" but the system just locks up
after a few seconds. I've also tried various variations on that but none seem
to work and most lock the machine up.
Here is a sample of the output from hdparm:
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -i /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Model=ST317242A, FwRev=3.09, SerialNo=7BP03H3M
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=33683328
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 23.67 seconds = 2.70 MB/sec
as you can see I'm only getting 2.7 MB/sec when I should be able to get around
20MB/sec
Here is info from dmesg regarding HPT366:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
HPT366: onboard version of chipset, pin1=1 pin2=2
PCI: HPT366: Fixing interrupt 18 pin 2 to ZERO
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 98
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 99
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc400-0xc407, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, ATA DISK drive
hdc: E-IDE CD-ROM CR-854E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hde: ST317242A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide2 at 0xb000-0xb007,0xb402 on irq 18
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, 3337MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=847/128/63
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, 3339MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=848/128/63
hde: ST317242A, 16446MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=33416/16/63
hdc: ATAPI 54X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Here are the entries from /proc/pci:
Bus 0, device 19, function 0:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001].
I/O at 0xb400 [0xb401].
I/O at 0xb800 [0xb801].
Bus 0, device 19, function 1:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xbc00 [0xbc01].
I/O at 0xc000 [0xc001].
I/O at 0xc400 [0xc401].
(Just to be pedantic) here is other info from /proc:
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 50435 40884IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 1528955IO-APIC-edge keyboard
2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 3 0IO-APIC-edge soundblaster
8: 0 1IO-APIC-edge rtc
12: 3459 4142IO-APIC-edge PS/2 Mouse
13: 1 0 XT-PIC fpu
14:136 88IO-APIC-edge ide0
15: 2 0IO-APIC-edge ide1
17: 10 13 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
18: 33817 33596 IO-APIC-level ide2, eth0
19: 37 31 IO-APIC-level eth1
NMI: 0
ERR: 0
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat dma
3: SoundBlaster8
4: cascade
5: SoundBlaster16
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat ioports
-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0220-022f : soundblaster
0330-0333 : MPU-401 UART
0376-0376 : ide1
0388-038b : Yamaha OPL3
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
Hi all, I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface. [snip] If you were to put this to Abit, they would first ask you whether you are using the special UDMA66 drive cables. It can make a big difference. Steve Stephen B. Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations
Hmmm well actually hda is not on the hpt366 its drive hde
In anyevent I tried that on hde and after a few seconds this is what happens:
[root@gratz1 /root]# hde: timeout waiting for DMA
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 12
hde: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hde: timeout waiting for DMA
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 12
hde: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hde: DMA disabled
ide2: reset: success
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
multcount= 16 (on)
I/O support = 3 (32-bit w/sync)
unmaskirq= 0 (off)
using_dma= 0 (off)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
nowerr = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead= 8 (on)
geometry = 33416/16/63, sectors = 33683328, start = 0
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 17.06 seconds = 3.75 MB/sec
[root@gratz1 /root]#
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote:
I just type
hdparm -c3d1 /dev/hda
for the first ide drive
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Hi all,
I hope this doesn't cover too well trod ground but I couldn't find any
good answer to it in the archives. I recently decided to switch to Mandrake
from Red hat when 7.1 came out. One of the statements I saw sent around about it
was that it natively supported the HPT366 UDMA66 interface that is part of the
BP6 motherboard. Mandrake does successfully work and install on a drive that
is on that bus but the performance I'm getting is horrible, worse than the
drives I have on the BX chip set's native IDE interface.
I have tried doing "hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/hde" but the system just locks up
after a few seconds. I've also tried various variations on that but none seem
to work and most lock the machine up.
Here is a sample of the output from hdparm:
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -i /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Model=ST317242A, FwRev=3.09, SerialNo=7BP03H3M
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=33683328
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
[root@gratz1 /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hde
/dev/hde:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 23.67 seconds = 2.70 MB/sec
as you can see I'm only getting 2.7 MB/sec when I should be able to get around
20MB/sec
Here is info from dmesg regarding HPT366:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
HPT366: onboard version of chipset, pin1=1 pin2=2
PCI: HPT366: Fixing interrupt 18 pin 2 to ZERO
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 98
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 99
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc400-0xc407, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, ATA DISK drive
hdc: E-IDE CD-ROM CR-854E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hde: ST317242A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide2 at 0xb000-0xb007,0xb402 on irq 18
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, 3337MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=847/128/63
hdb: Maxtor 83500D4, 3339MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=848/128/63
hde: ST317242A, 16446MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=33416/16/63
hdc: ATAPI 54X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Here are the entries from /proc/pci:
Bus 0, device 19, function 0:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001].
I/O at 0xb400 [0xb401].
I/O at 0xb800 [0xb801].
Bus 0, device 19, function 1:
Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 IDE
UltraDMA/66 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xbc00 [0xbc01].
I/O at 0xc000 [0xc001].
I/O at 0xc400 [0xc401].
(Just to be pedantic) here is other info from /proc:
[root@gratz1 /proc]# cat interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 50435 40884IO-APIC-edge
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
TK Kim wrote: Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. Everybody is answering, so why not me too. :) I think you need to define "better". IE is in many ways superior as far as HTML rendering is concerned (if you exclude betas - Mozilla, Opera - it has the best CSS implementation to date), has a number of nice user interface features, but the whole IE+OE tandem sucks royally when it comes to protocol support. I deal with Internet in a network of about 120 computers (Linux, Novell, AIX, NT on the server-side, Win9*, NT as clients), and recently I just had to force a switch from IE+OE to a localized version of NN 4.5 - the intranet page suddenly started to look ugly, but on the other hand all problems with connecting to it magically disappeared. Believe me, it does frustrate the admin when OE on a PC attached to the very same switch as server, on a 100 Mbit LAN, gives you "Connection timed out" errors 75% of the time while connecting to an IMAP mailbox. And it's not fun when you have to torture your intranet code and invent ways of forcing IE to behave itself with respect to MIME types and file extensions. I've been using Netscape since the 0.8 beta, when it was still called "Netscape Mosaic". I watched as Andreessen and his boys wasted the chance to produce a standards-compliant, enabling technology in their chase for corporate money - somehow BLINK was ever more important than SGML compliancy, LAYER won the fight with CSS, and online docs soon turned into marketing hype (TABLE bugs were suddenly "the original TABLE design features"). I chuckled in my fist when Netscape turned open source overnight - of course it was a sign of their continuing dedication to the idea of free software, never a desperate shot at regaining ground in an already lost war - and I still curse when my Linux 128bit 4.73 crashes a dozen times a day. In a lot of ways they lost the war at their own request, e.g. by not caring enough about the developers, and even after the defeat it took them some time to realize what's the right thing to do - now it seems that with Mozilla Netscape has again the chance to be what it should be from the beginning. But nonetheless, Netscape still, by and large, gives me the _reliable_ solution where IE prettiness only serves to hide the problems under the hood. Try latest release of Mozilla, or some of the stable nightly builds. The browser is slowly getting there, already almost fully usable, it renders HTMLlike no other, and it gives you a whole development platform for your intranet. What you're saying about IE may still be true (in some areas) for a year or a half, but IMVHO the future will definitely belong to Mozilla. -- Grzegorz Staniak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
- On 12 Jun, TK Kim wrote: - Neither. - I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for - saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. Actually, the Netscape-package as shipped with helium is quite nice. Just make sure the required compat-libs are installed for it. But I definitly look forward to get KDE2's conqueror running. Maybe by the end of Summer we'll have a fuly functional Web-Browser, light and fast :) Cya SMurphy -- Many hands make light work. -- John Heywood | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : http://www.solsys.org | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Data, Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | PGP fingerprint: 6D E9 7B 04 57 7B 65 42 B7 7A D0 AA 69 95 7C E1
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 - TK Kim, you wrote: | Neither. | I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for | saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. I simply use KDE's file manager to read web pages. kfm does not do all the tricks the big guys do, but it can take cookies when needed, and allows me to do downloads with a simple drag-n-drop to the file tree (I pull the window at the left open). But then again, my needs are simple, read a web page, and maby do a download from time to time. Also copy-and-past from kfm to the text editor works well too. MHO, | | From: "Eugene C. Zesch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 | Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:46:11 -0500 | | Hello listmembers, | Can anyone tell me if 7.1 installs KDE2 and Kongueror? I'm so tired | of | Netscape I could spit! | Thanks, | Gene | | | | Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- ___ Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 02:57:28PM -0800, Civileme wrote: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - On 12 Jun, TK Kim wrote: - Neither. - I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for - saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. - - - Well I have seen people with IE 5.5 trying to uninstall to get - back to 5, but the 5 I saw working crashed about every - quarter-hour. Netscape for Windows seems to work better than - Netscape for linux, and I find Mozilla better in some regards but - way way too "heavy" (Cluttered screen and slow) Netscape 6 Beta - was far worse. I think AOL may manage to do what Microsoft and - others could not--kill Netscape if they continue the direction. - - Compared to either of these Behemoths (IE or Netscape), Konqueror - is light, fast, sleek, and can open sites that would freeze - Netscape128 java-enabled in its tracks. I don't like IE for a - LOT of reasons, and I think the best ever windows98 program - developed is ie-off.exe because win98 runs 20-30% faster on other - apps when msie code is disabled (and seems to crash less). Of - course I have left all that behind me, now. If it doesn't run on - linux these days, I don't use it. One of the things you have to understand is that IE (Internet Exploder) is not, repeat, not, a web browser. It is an operating system upgrade that happens to include a browser. If you don't believe me, take a look at the Windows SDK. Many functions now have in the quick reference not only the operating system and version where they run (e.g: NT 4 SP6 or later) but the version of IE where they are present. Other functions have features that are only available with certain versions of IE. Welcome to DLL Hell, squared. And then there is the definition of an upgrade: trading old bugs for new. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 on Toshiba Portege Laptop - PCMCIA issues
It is an old problem. You should set BIOS setting of PCMCIA to "cardbus" or "PCMCIA", but not "auto". Sunday, June 11, 2000, 1:26:18 AM, you wrote: d Hi, d I have installed Mandrake 7.1 (via FTP) to my laptop, however, bootup d hangs when it reaches the Loading PCMCIA Modules part. If I disable d PCMCIA from bootup, everything comes up fine. (minus my network card) d Now, I have tried a few things. d a) I booted up without any PCMCIA cards inserted, and it still hangs. d b) It also hangs with a PCMCIA card in the laptop (3COM Megahertz 10/100) d Has anyone else experianced something like this? What is a d workaround? I need net access, obviously. Is there a newer version of d PCMCIA-tools? d Thanks d -davidu -- lark
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. From: "Eugene C. Zesch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:46:11 -0500 Hello listmembers, Can anyone tell me if 7.1 installs KDE2 and Kongueror? I'm so tired of Netscape I could spit! Thanks, Gene Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
On 12 Jun, TK Kim wrote: Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. I find it's a genralized feeling, although I've never used it. I prefer Mozilla but it still crashes too much. L -- Laurent Duperval "Montreal winters are an intelligence test, U|Force - Java Center and we who are here have failed it." Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228 -Doug Camilli mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penguin Power!
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 11:25:29AM -0400, TK Kim wrote: - Neither. - I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for - saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. Cool. Let us know when it is available for Linux. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
I know - I run win4lin which is $49.00 just so that I can run IE5 on my Linux My problems is Plug-ins ie: Macromedia Shockwave Flash. On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, TK Kim wrote: Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. From: "Eugene C. Zesch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:46:11 -0500 Hello listmembers, Can anyone tell me if 7.1 installs KDE2 and Kongueror? I'm so tired of Netscape I could spit! Thanks, Gene Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
hi ! nope...no kde 2 on 7.1 , but we are getting there :-) "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Hello listmembers, Can anyone tell me if 7.1 installs KDE2 and Kongueror? I'm so tired of Netscape I could spit! Thanks, Gene -- -- Best Regard's , Amir Tal, System Administrator Intercomp Ltd. Cell : 051-473382 Office : 09-9526993. Have a Nice Day... :-) --
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
You won't get killed here...I agree! But hopefully Konquerer will be that replacement :) Bambi TK Kim wrote: Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. From: "Eugene C. Zesch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:46:11 -0500 Hello listmembers, Can anyone tell me if 7.1 installs KDE2 and Kongueror? I'm so tired of Netscape I could spit! Thanks, Gene Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
"Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Hello listmembers, Can anyone tell me if 7.1 installs KDE2 and Kongueror? I'm so tired of Netscape I could spit! Thanks, Gene Nope... Go here ftp://ftp.linux.tucows.com/pub/distribution/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS and then you can DL the rpms. Also look at www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html--you need to do a few things to make it work. And read the archives of Cooker for some KDE2 insights and the way to handle it as another window manager. Search on KDE2 and you will find an excellent script that someone wrote (I was headed the same direction and he saved me a great deal of time). Konqueror will open some sites that cause Netscape to choke, but it is still beta. I have used it successfully for ecommerce (yeh, Javascript and all). Note that every four weeks or so there will be a new beta out until September, and it will be in the Mandrake mirrors quickly. Note also that Chris Molnar does a build independent of the BETA from the cvs which is still more up to date. Usually this is at ftp://us.mandrakesoft.com/pub/kde To install binaries you will need to DL and install openssl (can be done in the 7.1 install procedure) and a very recent version of qt.. I think 2.1.0 or higher, but it is IN 7.1--no hassle. And remember it is BETA and that every now and then a little Green Dragon is gonna pop up with a message asking you if you want to submit a bug report, because you just encountered a SIGSEGV (signal 11) at no extra charge. Civileme
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Jun, TK Kim wrote: Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. Well I have seen people with IE 5.5 trying to uninstall to get back to 5, but the 5 I saw working crashed about every quarter-hour. Netscape for Windows seems to work better than Netscape for linux, and I find Mozilla better in some regards but way way too "heavy" (Cluttered screen and slow) Netscape 6 Beta was far worse. I think AOL may manage to do what Microsoft and others could not--kill Netscape if they continue the direction. Compared to either of these Behemoths (IE or Netscape), Konqueror is light, fast, sleek, and can open sites that would freeze Netscape128 java-enabled in its tracks. I don't like IE for a LOT of reasons, and I think the best ever windows98 program developed is ie-off.exe because win98 runs 20-30% faster on other apps when msie code is disabled (and seems to crash less). Of course I have left all that behind me, now. If it doesn't run on linux these days, I don't use it. Anyway, Konqueror still crashes too often to be mainstream, (about the same as MSIE 5.5). Civileme I find it's a genralized feeling, although I've never used it. I prefer Mozilla but it still crashes too much. L -- Laurent Duperval "Montreal winters are an intelligence test, U|Force - Java Center and we who are here have failed it." Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228 -Doug Camilli mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penguin Power!
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
TK Kim wrote: Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. You wont get an argument from me. I haven't used IE5 yet, I bailed from windows for linux around IE4 and IE4 is still on the kids computer. No harm in complimenting MS for a job well done. Mozilla and Opera are getting there slowly also. But from what I've read, Konqueror will be all that and more. I'm just a little too green to try to install KDE 2 alongside KDE1 until I see some really concise instructions. Gene
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1
Hi, Civileme I beg to differ with you. IE 5 with only security upgrades and toys from MS and all the plugins you could want worked great on my machineincluding a MS Agent toy to read me web pages, not the Bonzi Buddy (annoying), just a simple MS Agent script that would open your default Agent and read whatever you had highlighted on the page...then it would go away. Until you invoked it with the right mouse click Read It! It very rarely ever crashed. I came to Linux for the security issues not because IE5 was a problem. I had more problems with third party stuff than anything else. And I also came to Linux because I think it is a more stable OS, and more fun...lots to learn and lots of new things to play with. Netscrappy wasn't one of the things I was looking forward to. I didn't like it in Windows and I am totally not happy with it in Linux. Netscrappy bombs in Linux many more times than IE5 ever did. The real difference...I can kill it when it misbehaves, try that in Windows. Even if it gets a runaway situation I can still cleanly shut down in Linux. The browser was never the issue the OS was a major issue. The third party software that phoned home was an issue as well. The viruses. What clinched it for me was the stupid worm viruses. I just knew it was time to go to something more stable and secure. I still think IE5 has the best browser and Outlook Express the best ever email program out today. But I use netscrappy because it is the only one that is somewhat reasonable in Linuxso far. Of course, that is just my opinion and you know what they say about those :) Bambi Civileme wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Jun, TK Kim wrote: Neither. I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. Well I have seen people with IE 5.5 trying to uninstall to get back to 5, but the 5 I saw working crashed about every quarter-hour. Netscape for Windows seems to work better than Netscape for linux, and I find Mozilla better in some regards but way way too "heavy" (Cluttered screen and slow) Netscape 6 Beta was far worse. I think AOL may manage to do what Microsoft and others could not--kill Netscape if they continue the direction. Compared to either of these Behemoths (IE or Netscape), Konqueror is light, fast, sleek, and can open sites that would freeze Netscape128 java-enabled in its tracks. I don't like IE for a LOT of reasons, and I think the best ever windows98 program developed is ie-off.exe because win98 runs 20-30% faster on other apps when msie code is disabled (and seems to crash less). Of course I have left all that behind me, now. If it doesn't run on linux these days, I don't use it. Anyway, Konqueror still crashes too often to be mainstream, (about the same as MSIE 5.5). Civileme I find it's a genralized feeling, although I've never used it. I prefer Mozilla but it still crashes too much. L -- Laurent Duperval "Montreal winters are an intelligence test, U|Force - Java Center and we who are here have failed it." Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228 -Doug Camilli mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penguin Power!
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Plus -- LinuxLAND
Dear Alan and friends: My deep apologies for getting myself and everybody else confused. Yes, it's LinuxLand, NOT LinuxMart or LinuxMall. Glad I threw in the URL with the right address. Benjamin Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyes, exactly! LinuxLand is where I ordered my 7.1 2 CD set as well. But because you said your 7.1 CD set was coming from LinuxMart in your original posting (and now again in this posting, but this time you left a clue, the URL to LinuxLand) I was amazed. Why?! Because I hadn't been able to find such a product at LinuxMart/LinuxMall (LinuxMart and Linux Mall are the same place, but LinuxLand [formerly called Circadian Software] is a completely different company). URL to LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/ URL to LinuxMart is http://www.LinuxMart.com/ URL to LinuxMall is http://www.LinuxMall.com/ Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: I found the 2-CD Linux 7.1 at LinuxMart. I got there from the www.mandrake.com page (Look for Purchase, CD on the left). The URL for LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/ The specific URL for the 2-CD 7.1 with full description is at: http://www.LLand.com/products/specialsview.asp?ID=49 Of course, I can't say anything else until I get it, hopefully on Friday (2-day standard delivery). You can even get it overnight if you are willing to pay for it. WARNING 1: Be sure you order the 2-CD 7 Plus (7+) and NOT the 1-CD 7. WARNING 2: Note that the 7.1 Power Pack ($46) won't be available till JULY (!), so don't order it unless you are willing to wait till then. The PowerPack is always a few weeks behind the latest version just put out. The present PowerPack is for 7.0, not 7.1! Yours, Benjamin Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminhow did you place your order? Here's the results I got from a search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1': Sorry, no products were found in your search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1' Mandrake was totally left off of the list of 13 Penguin Power CD's when I chose to navigate to: Software-Apps and Utilities-Operating Systems-Linux CDs Bundles But an actual search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.0' turned up these 4 items: Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 Deluxe Linux Mandrake Operating System 7.0 Linux Mandrake Operating System Complete 7.0 Linux-Mandrake Penguin Power CD 7.0 However, searches for 'Linux Mandrake' and 'Linux Mandrake 7' come up with a 'no match' just like my original search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'. I don't see very much support any more at LinuxMall/LinuxMart for the Linux Mandrake distro. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: My apologies for writing from Win98. I tried to install the new Linux-Mandrake 7.1 last night and accidently wiped out my entire Linux installation by resizing my partitions. Am waiting for my 2-CD set from LinuxMart. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Plus -- LinuxLAND
BenjaminI really don't think that 'deep apologies' are necessary. :-) And maybe I was the only one that was confused, duh! Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Alan and friends: My deep apologies for getting myself and everybody else confused. Yes, it's LinuxLand, NOT LinuxMart or LinuxMall. Glad I threw in the URL with the right address. Benjamin Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyes, exactly! LinuxLand is where I ordered my 7.1 2 CD set as well. But because you said your 7.1 CD set was coming from LinuxMart in your original posting (and now again in this posting, but this time you left a clue, the URL to LinuxLand) I was amazed. Why?! Because I hadn't been able to find such a product at LinuxMart/LinuxMall (LinuxMart and Linux Mall are the same place, but LinuxLand [formerly called Circadian Software] is a completely different company). URL to LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/ URL to LinuxMart is http://www.LinuxMart.com/ URL to LinuxMall is http://www.LinuxMall.com/ Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: I found the 2-CD Linux 7.1 at LinuxMart. I got there from the www.mandrake.com page (Look for Purchase, CD on the left). The URL for LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/ The specific URL for the 2-CD 7.1 with full description is at: http://www.LLand.com/products/specialsview.asp?ID=49 Of course, I can't say anything else until I get it, hopefully on Friday (2-day standard delivery). You can even get it overnight if you are willing to pay for it. WARNING 1: Be sure you order the 2-CD 7 Plus (7+) and NOT the 1-CD 7. WARNING 2: Note that the 7.1 Power Pack ($46) won't be available till JULY (!), so don't order it unless you are willing to wait till then. The PowerPack is always a few weeks behind the latest version just put out. The present PowerPack is for 7.0, not 7.1! Yours, Benjamin Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminhow did you place your order? Here's the results I got from a search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1': Sorry, no products were found in your search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1' Mandrake was totally left off of the list of 13 Penguin Power CD's when I chose to navigate to: Software-Apps and Utilities-Operating Systems-Linux CDs Bundles But an actual search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.0' turned up these 4 items: Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 Deluxe Linux Mandrake Operating System 7.0 Linux Mandrake Operating System Complete 7.0 Linux-Mandrake Penguin Power CD 7.0 However, searches for 'Linux Mandrake' and 'Linux Mandrake 7' come up with a 'no match' just like my original search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'. I don't see very much support any more at LinuxMall/LinuxMart for the Linux Mandrake distro. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: My apologies for writing from Win98. I tried to install the new Linux-Mandrake 7.1 last night and accidently wiped out my entire Linux installation by resizing my partitions. Am waiting for my 2-CD set from LinuxMart. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Plus -- LinuxLAND
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Alan and friends: My deep apologies for getting myself and everybody else confused. Yes, it's LinuxLand, NOT LinuxMart or LinuxMall. Glad I threw in the URL with the right address. Benjamin Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyes, exactly! LinuxLand is where I ordered my 7.1 2 CD set as well. But because you said your 7.1 CD set was coming from LinuxMart in your original posting (and now again in this posting, but this time you left a clue, the URL to LinuxLand) I was amazed. Why?! Because I hadn't been able to find such a product at LinuxMart/LinuxMall (LinuxMart and Linux Mall are the same place, but LinuxLand [formerly called Circadian Software] is a completely different company). URL to LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/ URL to LinuxMart is http://www.LinuxMart.com/ URL to LinuxMall is http://www.LinuxMall.com/ By the way, you could ask yourself why a company who explicitly deals with Linux (from the company's name) has to run its Web server (at least) on Windows NT !!! (I'm speaking about LinuxLand). Don't they trust Linux enough to USE it ??? Check it yourself: http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.LLand.com At least the two others (LinuxMart and LinuxMall do use Linux ... -- Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED] 74 Annemasse France old Linux fan
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Plus -- where to get it
Benjaminyes, exactly! LinuxLand is where I ordered my 7.1 2 CD set as well. But because you said your 7.1 CD set was coming from LinuxMart in your original posting (and now again in this posting, but this time you left a clue, the URL to LinuxLand) I was amazed. Why?! Because I hadn't been able to find such a product at LinuxMart/LinuxMall (LinuxMart and Linux Mall are the same place, but LinuxLand [formerly called Circadian Software] is a completely different company). URL to LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/ URL to LinuxMart is http://www.LinuxMart.com/ URL to LinuxMall is http://www.LinuxMall.com/ Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: I found the 2-CD Linux 7.1 at LinuxMart. I got there from the www.mandrake.com page (Look for Purchase, CD on the left). The URL for LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/ The specific URL for the 2-CD 7.1 with full description is at: http://www.LLand.com/products/specialsview.asp?ID=49 Of course, I can't say anything else until I get it, hopefully on Friday (2-day standard delivery). You can even get it overnight if you are willing to pay for it. WARNING 1: Be sure you order the 2-CD 7 Plus (7+) and NOT the 1-CD 7. WARNING 2: Note that the 7.1 Power Pack ($46) won't be available till JULY (!), so don't order it unless you are willing to wait till then. The PowerPack is always a few weeks behind the latest version just put out. The present PowerPack is for 7.0, not 7.1! Yours, Benjamin Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminhow did you place your order? Here's the results I got from a search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1': Sorry, no products were found in your search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1' Mandrake was totally left off of the list of 13 Penguin Power CD's when I chose to navigate to: Software-Apps and Utilities-Operating Systems-Linux CDs Bundles But an actual search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.0' turned up these 4 items: Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 Deluxe Linux Mandrake Operating System 7.0 Linux Mandrake Operating System Complete 7.0 Linux-Mandrake Penguin Power CD 7.0 However, searches for 'Linux Mandrake' and 'Linux Mandrake 7' come up with a 'no match' just like my original search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'. I don't see very much support any more at LinuxMall/LinuxMart for the Linux Mandrake distro. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: My apologies for writing from Win98. I tried to install the new Linux-Mandrake 7.1 last night and accidently wiped out my entire Linux installation by resizing my partitions. Am waiting for my 2-CD set from LinuxMart. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
