Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-06 Thread James Sparenberg
Well since I bit...I guess I own.  If everyone who is having this
problem on one or more CD drives could send me details (Like make and
model of the CD drive not the computer.) I can try and compile a list of
problematic drives and maybe just maybe find a common thread.  

James

PS.  Send this to me offline. I'll compile the results and then post a
page somewhere with the "results" of the survey.

On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 10:05, Todd Lyons wrote:
> James Sparenberg wrote on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:32:59PM -0800 :
> > > 
> > > umount /mnt/cdrom
> > > mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> >   As I've been following this problem and in one and only one case do I
> > have this problem I've noticed that it seems to be hardware specific. 
> 
> Yep, it's hardware specific.  All the hardware I have here it seems to
> work pretty well.
> 
> Blue skies... Todd
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>  anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you 
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Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-06 Thread Todd Lyons
James Sparenberg wrote on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:32:59PM -0800 :
> > 
> > umount /mnt/cdrom
> > mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
>   As I've been following this problem and in one and only one case do I
> have this problem I've noticed that it seems to be hardware specific. 

Yep, it's hardware specific.  All the hardware I have here it seems to
work pretty well.

Blue skies...   Todd
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 anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you 
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Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-06 Thread Gregory K. Meyer
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 03:50 am, Mark Williamson wrote:
> I pass ide=nodma using lilo and the
> append line,  then when booting up I use hdparm just to switch DMA on
> just for the hard drive  "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda"  and this seems to work

If you want dma off on your cdrom, you should not have to do anything on 9.0.  
If you examine the sysinit script, you'll see that Mandrake 9.0 is already 
turning off dma on the optical drives.  You shouldn't have to pass ide=nodma 
to the kernel and then turn on dma on the harddrive.  Wouldn't that prevent 
the kernels ability to handle dma from the hard drive as opposed to just 
turning it off on a specific drive.
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Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-06 Thread Alex Bennee
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 08:50, Mark Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 18:32, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 12:21, Todd Lyons wrote:
> > 
> > As I've been following this problem and in one and only one case do I
> > have this problem I've noticed that it seems to be hardware specific. 
> > I've got 4 boxes running 9.0 without problems of this sort.  2 with
> > samsung CD's one with a mitsumi slimline and One with an Asus CDRW. 
> > But, on my laptop with the compaq cdrom... it happens.  What I'm
> > wondering is if it is hardware related specifically to older or specific
> > brands of cd drives?  Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree...
> > 
> 
> Yes I have found this to be true as well, this works for me, as I am
> running crap hardware.. First I pass ide=nodma using lilo and the
> append line,  then when booting up I use hdparm just to switch DMA on
> just for the hard drive  "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda"  and this seems to work
> quiet well..
> 
> I have tried other tricks through LILO like ide1=nodma  but this not
> work, and the fault remained..only through totally switching off the
> IDE DMA and switching back on for the hard seems to work me...

Is it not possible to turn DMA off with hdparm?

> Has anyone else tried anything like this?

I'll give it a try and see if it makes a difference. I too don't want to
go through the hassle of manually mounting stuff, after all supermount
is meant to be a differentiating feature right?

I can supply my drive info if any supermount hackers want to work with
me to find a better cure. According to the thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@;linux-mandrake.com/msg59783.html
there is not much point reporting it to lkml.

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Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-06 Thread Mark Williamson
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 18:32, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 12:21, Todd Lyons wrote:
> > Alex Bennee wrote on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:02:25PM + :
> > > I've been finding problems with supermount'ed CDROMs where it seems to
> > > forget media is inserted - or at least cannot find *some* of the files
> > > on it. This usually manifests itself by XMMS skipping a load of tracks
> > 
> > Yup.
> > 
> > umount /mnt/cdrom
> > mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> > 
> > IOW, manually mount and unmount them.
> > 
> > Blue skies...   Todd
> 
> Todd,
> 
>   As I've been following this problem and in one and only one case do I
> have this problem I've noticed that it seems to be hardware specific. 
> I've got 4 boxes running 9.0 without problems of this sort.  2 with
> samsung CD's one with a mitsumi slimline and One with an Asus CDRW. 
> But, on my laptop with the compaq cdrom... it happens.  What I'm
> wondering is if it is hardware related specifically to older or specific
> brands of cd drives?  Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree...
> 

Yes I have found this to be true as well, this works for me, as I am
running crap hardware.. First I pass ide=nodma using lilo and the
append line,  then when booting up I use hdparm just to switch DMA on
just for the hard drive  "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda"  and this seems to work
quiet well..

I have tried other tricks through LILO like ide1=nodma  but this not
work, and the fault remained..only through totally switching off the
IDE DMA and switching back on for the hard seems to work me...

Has anyone else tried anything like this?

Cheers
Mark 




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Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-05 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 12:21, Todd Lyons wrote:
> Alex Bennee wrote on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:02:25PM + :
> > I've been finding problems with supermount'ed CDROMs where it seems to
> > forget media is inserted - or at least cannot find *some* of the files
> > on it. This usually manifests itself by XMMS skipping a load of tracks
> 
> Yup.
> 
> umount /mnt/cdrom
> mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> 
> IOW, manually mount and unmount them.
> 
> Blue skies... Todd

Todd,

  As I've been following this problem and in one and only one case do I
have this problem I've noticed that it seems to be hardware specific. 
I've got 4 boxes running 9.0 without problems of this sort.  2 with
samsung CD's one with a mitsumi slimline and One with an Asus CDRW. 
But, on my laptop with the compaq cdrom... it happens.  What I'm
wondering is if it is hardware related specifically to older or specific
brands of cd drives?  Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree...

James
  



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Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-05 Thread Gregory K. Meyer
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 01:02 pm, Alex Bennee wrote:
> I've been finding problems with supermount'ed CDROMs where it seems to

Well noted problem, check the archives.

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Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-05 Thread Jason Greenwood




Or just use kwikdisk to mount/unmount removable media (I have it running
in my systray at kde startup), I find it much quicker, though once in bash
history (for you command line hero's), it's just a matter of navigating up
to the proper mount command! ;)

Cheers

Jason

Todd Lyons wrote:

  Alex Bennee wrote on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:02:25PM + :
  
  
I've been finding problems with supermount'ed CDROMs where it seems to
forget media is inserted - or at least cannot find *some* of the files
on it. This usually manifests itself by XMMS skipping a load of tracks

  
  
Yup.

umount /mnt/cdrom
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

IOW, manually mount and unmount them.

Blue skies...			Todd
  





Re: [expert] Problems with supermount?

2002-11-05 Thread Todd Lyons
Alex Bennee wrote on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:02:25PM + :
> I've been finding problems with supermount'ed CDROMs where it seems to
> forget media is inserted - or at least cannot find *some* of the files
> on it. This usually manifests itself by XMMS skipping a load of tracks

Yup.

umount /mnt/cdrom
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

IOW, manually mount and unmount them.

Blue skies...   Todd
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