Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 7:30 pm, haywiremac wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask around. It *is* sent in plain text. As others have pointed out, the mutipart is because of the *footer* added by the list server. He is not sending html, rtf, or anything offensive to the list requirements as far as I can see. I copied his last message into the one folder where I allow trusted html. It displayed as plain text I probably shouldn't even be posting this, but I hate being misunderstood, and generally put considerable effort into making myself as clear as I can in my posts, none of which appears to be working for me in this instance. My complaint in regards to Norman's OE posts are *not* a multipart issue (as /everyone's/ posts here are multipart, but his posts are /not/ like everyone else's), nor are they an HTML vs. plaintext issue (as he clearly does not post in HTML, and has confirmed that fact himself). Nor am I alleging that he has violated any specific requirement of this list. The issue is that OE is including in the *body* text of his messages some non-compliant MIME-related stuff - which I fully realize that OE will not let him see in the manner that others can see it. While I do not use OE, I have in the past, and ISTR that it has something to do with a setting in the preferences somewhere involving quoted-printable vs. 8-bit chars, or something along those lines. But it may be something else in there. Viewing the raw message (headers and all) in any mail client, including OE, should clarify exactly what I am referring to here, especially when the *body* of that message is contrasted with others here on the list. Upon further investigation, the problem appears to hinge on what OE does *not* include in his posts, but all the various other standards-compliant mailers *do* include. I refer to the lack of a Content-Type declaration just after the first MIME boundary. An excerpt from the raw view of his original post: Subject: [expert] perl(Authen::Smb::Smb) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--=_1058395872-5877-492 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 2921 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_1058395872-5877-492 Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to the latest squid-2.5 proxy server from cooker. However I get the following error An similar excerpt from the post to which I am replying: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--=_1058469064-5877-779 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2974 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_1058469064-5877-779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 7:30 pm, haywiremac wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One upshot of this incorrect encoding is that when I attempt to view his messages using SquirrelMail rather than my usual Pine, the body text of the entire message itself is not visible at *all*. All that's there is the footer that is tacked on by Sympa. Nothing more. While I readily concede that part of my motivation in bringing the issue up at all is that I personally find that cruft distracting, I would not have mentioned it but for the fact that it was clear to me that he had no idea that this was occurring, and I for one like to be informed when my software is exhibiting behaviors of which I am unaware, especially when those behaviors vary to some degree from the norm. I am now quite sorry I ever brought the whole thing up. My apologies to all concerned, and I will not raise the issue again in this forum. -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 In thebeginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Friday 18 Jul 2003 5:47 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: I am now quite sorry I ever brought the whole thing up. My apologies to all concerned, and I will not raise the issue again in this forum. Bill, there obviously has been some misunderstanding, but personally I'm glad you did bring it up, and even more glad that you wrote this last message, as it explains differences that have puzzled me when I have tried to understand the different header sets that I sometimes see. In future I will be checking to see whether all the 'oddities' come from OE Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
--- Norman Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, I'm trying to upgrade to the latest squid-2.5 proxy server from cooker. Onto a system running which release? I take it that it's not Cooker that you're running on this box; this sort of mixing is prone to these sorts of difficulties, you know ... if the box /is/ running Cooker, then using urpmi to install rather than rpm should sort out the dependencies nicely. I'm using LM9.1. However I get the following error [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE2-2mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ### [100%] 1:squid ### [100%] [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb) is needed by squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk Would someone please give me a few pointers on how to troubleshoot this? This newer version of Squid needs a Perl module that the earlier one did not, and that you don't already have. If you're familiar with downloading and installing Perl modules with the CPAN system, you might be able to get this module (and possibly others that this Squid version may also require) that way, and thereby incorporate it/them into your current local Perl installation ... if not, it is entirely possible that trying to get it from Cooker will require a wholesale updating of your Perl susbsystem (if Cooker is using a newer Perl version than your current release does), and $DEITY knows what else may need to be upgraded along with it; someone who runs Cooker can address that aspect better than I can, once we know what Mandrake release /you/ have running. I was thinking that it was compiled against some newer perl modules in cooker, but too scared to fiddle around it furthur. Would you know which particular perl module I need to update to satisfy this dependency? Thanks for your detail explanation. Regards, Norman From the error message, it seems that it needs this erl module: Authen::Smb Use: perl -MCPAN -e shell install Authen::Smb That should do it for the module part. _Thanks Richard Mollel __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask around. I was thinking that it was compiled against some newer perl modules in cooker, but too scared to fiddle around it furthur. Would you know which particular perl module I need to update to satisfy this dependency? Well, that's the problem ... if you grab a specific Perl RPM from Cooker that contains the module you want, but Cooker is using a newer base Perl version (which it may or may not be, I have no idea), then you'll have to upgrade /all/ of your Perl-related RPMs to their Cooker equivalents, and also anything which depends on even a single one of them, and whatever may depend on /that/ stuff, and so on, and so on ... which is why we say here that mixing Cooker RPMs into a release version of Mandrake is generally a dicey proposition, at best. It really /is/ a separate distro of its own, as I tried to explain in my previous post. As for the module you need, it's in your subject line. :) But you haven't addressed the really important question - what is it that you expect to get from the Cooker version of Squid that the version that is known to install and work properly in Mandrake 9.1 does not offer you? -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 4:16 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask around. This is something that comes up regularly - a FAQ in fact. If someone can tell him how to do it, can we please have a TWiki entry? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask around. It *is* sent in plain text. As others have pointed out, the mutipart is because of the *footer* added by the list server. He is not sending html, rtf, or anything offensive to the list requirements as far as I can see. Cheers! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 7:30 pm, haywiremac wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask around. It *is* sent in plain text. As others have pointed out, the mutipart is because of the *footer* added by the list server. He is not sending html, rtf, or anything offensive to the list requirements as far as I can see. Cheers! I copied his last message into the one folder where I allow trusted html. It displayed as plain text Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
