Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC

2002-01-24 Thread Molotov


 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC


  If I understand correctly, you have a Netgear card that uses the tulip.o
  driver and it's having trouble (if this is not true, then feel free to
  ignore the rest of the message).  I don't have the machine in front of
  me right now, but if I remember correctly, the tulip.o driver would not
  load unless I loaded pci-scan.o first.
 
  insmod pci-scan
  insmod tulip
 
  was what I did.
 Yes, this is what I've read about on http://www.scyld.com
 But as you say, there is no pci-scan module included with Mdk, and I've
seen
 my card working properly without it.

 Anyway, it should be a good idea to include it with the next Mandrake.

 I think I may have some kind of problem with my motherboard's Via chipset
 support, which could explain bad detection of my cards. I'll post a
solution
 here, if I can find one.
 Regards
 Francois






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Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC

2002-01-24 Thread Molotov



- Original Message -
From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: expert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC


This is a response to the system doesn't boot any more part:

If you downloaded ALL the updates available, you will have updated the
kernel which is more or less certain to screw your system up.  For
future reference, don't use update for the kernel.  Download it and use:

rpm -ivh

to install it alongside your existing kernel.  I don't know why mandrake
insist on putting the kernel in the same bin as all the other security
updates, thereby inviting people to trash their systems, but they keep
on doing it.

Brian


Hello
Thank you very much for this tip. You are right: this is the way I screwed
my system up. At least, I've learned something ;-)
I think there was an update for the glibc, too. Could such an upgrade be a
problem too ?
By the way: I have a geforce2 card, which I used with the kernel module from
Nvidia. Upgrading the kernel with rpm -ivh should have kept this clean, or
it could bring me other problems ?
Regards
François




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Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC

2002-01-23 Thread Michael Murphy

If I understand correctly, you have a Netgear card that uses the tulip.o
driver and it's having trouble (if this is not true, then feel free to
ignore the rest of the message).  I don't have the machine in front of
me right now, but if I remember correctly, the tulip.o driver would not
load unless I loaded pci-scan.o first.

insmod pci-scan
insmod tulip

was what I did.
Additionally, I think it worked best to put a line in my
/etc/modules.conf like:

alias eth0 tulip

If anyone from Mandrake is listening:  
I tried to use this card (the Netgear using tulip.o driver) for a MDK
SNF firewall.  The boot image had the tulip driver but not the pci-scan
driver so the install would not autodetect the card.  I don't know
enough yet to configure the card post-install to work with the web
interface provided so I finally pulled the Netgear card and replaced it
with a 3Com 3c59x, reinstalled and it worked like a charm.  Admittedly,
I am not an expert on this area (linux network drivers), but it seems
that the pci-scan should be included in the boot image.  Perhaps this
was specific to my config though.  

I have had great success with Mandrake 8.x.  I am not yet a Linux
expert, but I am working on it.  Your excellent distribution allows me
to focus on the parts that I am interested in rather than things that I
am not.  I recently installed and configured the OpenLDAP server and got
it to respond using your packages and a tutorial I found on the net. 
Keep up the good work.  

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002.01.23 09:11:45 
- Original Message -
From: Jim Dewar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC

 the only thing that comes to mind right away is IRQ conflict.
 something bizarre with IRQ sharing perhaps?
 dunno.

 do a cat /proc/interrupts

 though, i guess that may not reveal much now since the situation has
been
 resolved.

 glad that you got it working.


Hello and thanks for your answer

Something terrible has happened ;-)
I used mdk-update to get the latest mdk rpm for gpg. By the way, I
downloaded all updates available... and now my system doesn't boot any
more.
I decided then to try debian again, as I have backups of my personnal
datas.
This IS off-topic (this is a mandrake list !), I know, but: I'm now
facing
the same problems with my NIC: insmod ok, ifconfig ok, but no traffic.
Dmesg
shows repeting lines like switching [...] to half-duplex (around one
line
every 2 seconds).
/proc/interrupts shows no conflict. I'm willing to try the sound card
thing,
but:
insmod awe-wave ok, but dmesg says no awe found (I have an isa
awe32)
there is no sndconfig on my system

I will be eternally grateful to anybody who will help me !
TIA, and regards from Paris
François



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Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC

2002-01-23 Thread Brian Parish

This is a response to the system doesn't boot any more part:

If you downloaded ALL the updates available, you will have updated the
kernel which is more or less certain to screw your system up.  For
future reference, don't use update for the kernel.  Download it and use:

rpm -ivh

to install it alongside your existing kernel.  I don't know why mandrake
insist on putting the kernel in the same bin as all the other security
updates, thereby inviting people to trash their systems, but they keep
on doing it.

Brian

On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 02:11, Molotov wrote:
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Dewar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC
 
  the only thing that comes to mind right away is IRQ conflict.
  something bizarre with IRQ sharing perhaps?
  dunno.
 
  do a cat /proc/interrupts
 
  though, i guess that may not reveal much now since the situation has been
  resolved.
 
  glad that you got it working.
 
 
 Hello and thanks for your answer
 
 Something terrible has happened ;-)
 I used mdk-update to get the latest mdk rpm for gpg. By the way, I
 downloaded all updates available... and now my system doesn't boot any more.
 I decided then to try debian again, as I have backups of my personnal datas.
 This IS off-topic (this is a mandrake list !), I know, but: I'm now facing
 the same problems with my NIC: insmod ok, ifconfig ok, but no traffic. Dmesg
 shows repeting lines like switching [...] to half-duplex (around one line
 every 2 seconds).
 /proc/interrupts shows no conflict. I'm willing to try the sound card thing,
 but:
 insmod awe-wave ok, but dmesg says no awe found (I have an isa awe32)
 there is no sndconfig on my system
 
 I will be eternally grateful to anybody who will help me !
 TIA, and regards from Paris
 François
 
 
 
 

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