Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
Hi to all, I'm coming to you with some news. First I had to do a make modules_install to have /lib/module/2.6.0 present ... but no modules won't be loaded as I said. An initrd usage not help me. I tried the updates of initrd, module... following http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/mdk-25/ but a lot of dependencies broken stopped me (I'm on mdk9.0). Next: I had compiled kernel without modules support, with in line drivers for video, keyboard, lan, chipset i810 (a minimal config) It seems to have a problem with virtual console (mingettty ?). Keyboard nunlock is operational. I can have a kernel 2.6.0-test1 operational (without screen !!! on 3 lines with kernel loading displayed) but all is ok from ssh / samba and seems to be working smooth. Of course I haven't read all great FMs. ;-) This nice preemptive kernel seems to be harder to get full operational ;-) I'm impatient to play with nice priorities ... Thanks to all Have a nice day. PS: I'm joining messages et tasks list Yes, a lot has changed. You no longer need to do all of the make arguments. 1) 'make config|menuconfig|xconfig|oldconfig' all still work the same. 2) 'make dep' and 'make clean' are no longer required, but you can use 'make clean' if you like. 3) 'make' will compile both the kernel and modules for you. If you happen to have removed something (in menuconfig for example), you do not have to run 'make dep' or 'make clean' or 'make distclean' or 'make mrproper' at any point. Just running 'make' is enough. 4) 'make xconfig' is now using qt instead of the old way. It's really nice. 5) 'make install' still does things the same way. In short, the Makefiles and related scripts have undergone some major rewrites. It works quite well now that the bugs seem to have been squashed for the most part. - -- Blue skies... Todd Public key: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: klogd 1.4.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.0-test1 jui 22 12:05:08 thierry_l partmon: Checking if partitions have enough free diskspace: Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Loaded 20881 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.0-test1. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.0. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Linux version 2.6.0-test1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk)) #7 lun jui 21 16:53:34 CEST 2003 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is f00 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-provided physical RAM map: Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0fec (usable) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: 0fec - 0fef8000 (ACPI data) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: 0fef8000 - 0ff0 (ACPI NVS) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: ffb8 - ffc0 (reserved) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: BIOS-e820: fff0 - 0001 (reserved) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: 254MB LOWMEM available. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: On node 0 totalpages: 65216 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Normal zone: 61120 pages, LIFO batch:14 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Building zonelist for node : 0 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux-2.6.0 ro root=304 devfs=mount Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Found and enabled local APIC! Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Initializing CPU#0 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Detected 895.300 MHz processor. Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 1769.47 BogoMIPS Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Memory: 254092k/260864k available (2157k kernel code, 6072k reserved, 617k data, 388k init, 0k highmem) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: - /dev Jul 22 12:05:08 thierry_l kernel: - /dev/console Jul 22
Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 01:10 am, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wanted us to know: I have been playing around and I cannot get the modules to compile. The kernel image goes fine, but the modules keep crapping out at some point. Each time I go back into the config and fix, get past that spot and something This is because a lot of the modules just flat don't compile because they have bugs. Not much you can do unless you feel like fixing it yourself. Linus always accepts patches ;-D Well, I was trying to answer the call for testing, but how can you test it if it won't compile? As for fixing it, that is unfortunately beyond me from a technical perspective, not that I wouldn't be willing to do it. I suppose I could continue to confirm the problems and report bugs, or at least scan the kernel ML to see if it is being addressed or has been fixed. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 22 July 2003 01:10 am, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wanted us to know: I have been playing around and I cannot get the modules to compile. The kernel image goes fine, but the modules keep crapping out at some point. Each time I go back into the config and fix, get past that spot and something This is because a lot of the modules just flat don't compile because they have bugs. Not much you can do unless you feel like fixing it yourself. Linus always accepts patches ;-D Well, I was trying to answer the call for testing, but how can you test it if it won't compile? As for fixing it, that is unfortunately beyond me from a technical perspective, not that I wouldn't be willing to do it. I suppose I could continue to confirm the problems and report bugs, or at least scan the kernel ML to see if it is being addressed or has been fixed. I've managed to get a 2.6.0-test1 kernel running (with X) on my laptop. Modules are a bit fun and several mdk initscripts which go through /etc/modules.conf need updating/rewriting, but I got a fair amount working. Mark. - -- Mark Watts Senior Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key ID: 455420ED -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/HT05Bn4EFUVUIO0RAqQDAJ9pYN1wBomC1zXTYVlUTrNtjBfT4wCfSWj0 Ms9SVzwGW/D7lNB7yN4dZBw= =pvPR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
Mark Watts wrote: I've managed to get a 2.6.0-test1 kernel running (with X) on my laptop. Modules are a bit fun and several mdk initscripts which go through /etc/modules.conf need updating/rewriting, but I got a fair amount working. Oh cool, congratulations can you give your 'recette de cuisine' to us ;-) Thierry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Watts wrote: I've managed to get a 2.6.0-test1 kernel running (with X) on my laptop. Modules are a bit fun and several mdk initscripts which go through /etc/modules.conf need updating/rewriting, but I got a fair amount working. Oh cool, congratulations can you give your 'recette de cuisine' to us ;-) Thierry Basically as follows: 1) Get/compile/install the latest module-init-tools, modutils and devfsd from cooker. 2) Get 2.6.0-test1 from kernel.org 3) Compile said kernel (make menu|xconfig make make modules_install make install) and fix the /boot symlinks so you can boot your old kernel if you need to. I _didnt_ create an initrd (I compiled that out) cos you need a new mkinitrd too for that. 4) Look at /etc/modprobe.conf and change any modules for their new names if needed. 5) Reboot. You may get some strangeness about modules, yet still have some loaded after boot. This is (I think) down to the initscripts still looking at modules.conf and getting confused by things (notably the usb drivers have changed) Mark. - -- Mark Watts Senior Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key ID: 455420ED -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/HWH7Bn4EFUVUIO0RAtfiAJ4iYRWn99/OzsRdsyYxn/cfMAYdmACfXRSG Ies7Oyv5Z0s8IzsQgwGoVLI= =9M56 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wanted us to know: If I am running Mandrake 9.1 with the latest Club kernel, is there anything in particular I need to know to compile and tet the beta 2.6 kernel? Has anything changed with respect to the compilation process? Yes, a lot has changed. You no longer need to do all of the make arguments. 1) 'make config|menuconfig|xconfig|oldconfig' all still work the same. 2) 'make dep' and 'make clean' are no longer required, but you can use 'make clean' if you like. 3) 'make' will compile both the kernel and modules for you. If you happen to have removed something (in menuconfig for example), you do not have to run 'make dep' or 'make clean' or 'make distclean' or 'make mrproper' at any point. Just running 'make' is enough. 4) 'make xconfig' is now using qt instead of the old way. It's really nice. 5) 'make install' still does things the same way. In short, the Makefiles and related scripts have undergone some major rewrites. It works quite well now that the bugs seem to have been squashed for the most part. - -- Blue skies... ToddPublic key: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc We're sysadmins. To us, data is a protocol overhead. --Mans Nilsson Linux kernel 2.4.19-24mdk 5 users, load average: 2.11, 2.09, 2.03 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/HKvjIBT1264ScBURAgh+AJ0YgiAvXMHQ1TsgXbgMD0Pp0JF4ggCfYczt jblMy9dTDHC2/Y0UHQ5SEjo= =dV/0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
On Monday 21 July 2003 11:13 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: Yes, a lot has changed. You no longer need to do all of the make arguments. 1) 'make config|menuconfig|xconfig|oldconfig' all still work the same. 2) 'make dep' and 'make clean' are no longer required, but you can use 'make clean' if you like. 3) 'make' will compile both the kernel and modules for you. If you happen to have removed something (in menuconfig for example), you do not have to run 'make dep' or 'make clean' or 'make distclean' or 'make mrproper' at any point. Just running 'make' is enough. 4) 'make xconfig' is now using qt instead of the old way. It's really nice. 5) 'make install' still does things the same way. In short, the Makefiles and related scripts have undergone some major rewrites. It works quite well now that the bugs seem to have been squashed for the most part. Hi Todd, good to see you around. I have been playing around and I cannot get the modules to compile. The kernel image goes fine, but the modules keep crapping out at some point. Each time I go back into the config and fix, get past that spot and something else won't go. I also like the new interface a lot better. What are they going to do on a RedHat box that doesn't have libqt installed though? :-D I'll keep working on it, but I really appreciate your clarification. I was still doing some of those steps, and they are not necessary. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Testing Kernel 2.6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wanted us to know: I have been playing around and I cannot get the modules to compile. The kernel image goes fine, but the modules keep crapping out at some point. Each time I go back into the config and fix, get past that spot and something This is because a lot of the modules just flat don't compile because they have bugs. Not much you can do unless you feel like fixing it yourself. Linus always accepts patches ;-D else won't go. I also like the new interface a lot better. What are they going to do on a RedHat box that doesn't have libqt installed though? :-D Chances are libqt is installed. The tricky point is the little hack that makes it use libqt or libqt-mt (multithreaded). libqt-mt is what Mandrake uses. I happened to catch that the first day it got released by Roman and sent a fix in, but he didn't like it. He did it a different way and it turns out that his way is much cleaner, so I'm content with having notified him that some systems use a slightly different appearance for qt. I'll keep working on it, but I really appreciate your clarification. I was still doing some of those steps, and they are not necessary. It's kind of a trust thing. You know they say that it's not necessary any more. But your brain wants to do it the old way because the brain knows that it used to work. - -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mrball.net | Sometimes you get experience. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --unknown origin | Linux kernel 2.4.19-24mdk load average: 0.02, 0.29, 0.19 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/HMcpIBT1264ScBURAqlNAJ4plWNL7PVB4rMOURhndAUDjV1l4gCgs7TM mx4dGg2O+ilXb3vRK5tVqzE= =zLhH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
