Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-29 Thread Timothy Litwiller

lo is a loopback device which is not an actual device but allows your machine
to see your machine,  you should have an eth* if you want to see more than
just your computer.

"Corbett J. Klempay" wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Steve Philp wrote:
>
> > "Corbett J. Klempay" wrote:
> > >
> > I don't know if MandrakeSoft included the updated pump in their 6.1
> > release or not, but I recall seeing 6.0-era messages about the original
> > pump not working with MS-DHCP.  Might want to check for updated
> > packages.
> >
>
> Thanks, I will check.  A related question...I went into linuxconf and told
> it to set my network device (it is named lo in this case, not
> eth0...anyone able to explain when it's lo and when it's eth0? I'm
> guessing it has to do with this being an pcmcia card vs. a regular NIC,
> right?) so that it uses DHCP on boot to get its IP.  However, it will
> always fail on boot (even when I am on my cable modem, where manual
> works), since it tries to acquire via DHCP *before* the pcmcia stuff is
> loaded...it obviously must be the other way around in order for the NIC to
> even be available to get the IP.  How do I fix this?
>
> > Oh, and dhcpd has been deprecated by the use of pump for address
> > reception.
> >
>
> Ah ok...I remembered seeing pump in RH as well.  Anyone know why pump >
> dhcpcd?
>
> Thanks!
>
> ---
> Corbett J. Klempay
> Trilogy Software, Inc.
> 512.685.4193 (W) | 512.750.1372 (C)
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RE: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-29 Thread Fred Frigerio

I think lo is the loopback interface (a virtual interface for the
machine to talk to itself) and not a physical device eth0 is the first
ethernet device. ppp0 the first ppp device and so on.

> -Original Message-
> From: Corbett J. Klempay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 12:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Steve Philp wrote:
> 
> > "Corbett J. Klempay" wrote:
> > > 
> > I don't know if MandrakeSoft included the updated pump in their 6.1
> > release or not, but I recall seeing 6.0-era messages about 
> the original
> > pump not working with MS-DHCP.  Might want to check for updated
> > packages.
> > 
> 
> Thanks, I will check.  A related question...I went into 
> linuxconf and told
> it to set my network device (it is named lo in this case, not
> eth0...anyone able to explain when it's lo and when it's eth0? I'm
> guessing it has to do with this being an pcmcia card vs. a 
> regular NIC,
> right?) so that it uses DHCP on boot to get its IP.  However, it will
> always fail on boot (even when I am on my cable modem, where manual
> works), since it tries to acquire via DHCP *before* the 
> pcmcia stuff is
> loaded...it obviously must be the other way around in order 
> for the NIC to
> even be available to get the IP.  How do I fix this?
> 
> > Oh, and dhcpd has been deprecated by the use of pump for address
> > reception.
> > 
> 
> Ah ok...I remembered seeing pump in RH as well.  Anyone know 
> why pump >
> dhcpcd?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ---
> Corbett J. Klempay
> Trilogy Software, Inc.
> 512.685.4193 (W) | 512.750.1372 (C)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 



Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Corbett J. Klempay wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Tom Berger wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> > > Hey all...I just installed 6.1 (switching from RH 6.0).  It's pretty
> > > slick, btw.  Anyway, my problem is this: I can plug this machine (Dell
> > > Latitude CPt 333, 3c574 nic) in at home to my cable modem (Time Warner
> > > Roadrunner), and have it get networking going just by typing 'dhcpcd'.
> > > That's it. (I didn't try setting it to do it on boot; I just did that
> > > since I've been here at work).  However, at work, if I get out of NT and
> > > into Linux, typing 'dhcpcd' will simply time out after a while.  I have it
> > > set to acquire via DHCP on boot now, and it fails when it tries then as
> > > well.  At first I might think it is something with the way the network is
> > > set up here at work, but I don't think that should be it; when I still had
> > > RH 6.0 on this machine, I could get an IP at work just fine.  Any
> > > suggestions?
> > > 
> > 
> > Could you please see if this URL helps you?
> > 
> > http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/ccable.html
> 
> I think you may have misread my above message; I can get an IP via DHCP
> when I am connected to my cable modem...it's at work on the regular
> network here that I cannot get an IP. (while I used to be able to get an
> IP at work when I had Red Hat 6.0)
> 

Ok, i know whats going on here now. Redhat defaults to pump for dhcp, We
default to dhcpcd. set your BOOTPROTO="pump" in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX. You may have to switch between
dhcpcd and pump, linuxconf should facilitate that easily.

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Dan Brown

From: Corbett J. Klempay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Thanks, I will check.  A related question...I went into linuxconf and told
> it to set my network device (it is named lo in this case, not
> eth0...anyone able to explain when it's lo and when it's eth0? I'm

lo and eth0 are completely different devices.  lo should always be set
to 127.0.0.1, and would be unable to get an address via dhcp, since there
isn't a dhcp server attached to it.




Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Corbett J. Klempay

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Steve Philp wrote:

> "Corbett J. Klempay" wrote:
> > 
> I don't know if MandrakeSoft included the updated pump in their 6.1
> release or not, but I recall seeing 6.0-era messages about the original
> pump not working with MS-DHCP.  Might want to check for updated
> packages.
> 

Thanks, I will check.  A related question...I went into linuxconf and told
it to set my network device (it is named lo in this case, not
eth0...anyone able to explain when it's lo and when it's eth0? I'm
guessing it has to do with this being an pcmcia card vs. a regular NIC,
right?) so that it uses DHCP on boot to get its IP.  However, it will
always fail on boot (even when I am on my cable modem, where manual
works), since it tries to acquire via DHCP *before* the pcmcia stuff is
loaded...it obviously must be the other way around in order for the NIC to
even be available to get the IP.  How do I fix this?

> Oh, and dhcpd has been deprecated by the use of pump for address
> reception.
> 

Ah ok...I remembered seeing pump in RH as well.  Anyone know why pump >
dhcpcd?

Thanks!

---
Corbett J. Klempay
Trilogy Software, Inc.
512.685.4193 (W) | 512.750.1372 (C)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Steve Philp

"Corbett J. Klempay" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Fred Frigerio wrote:
> 
> > Are u using MS DHCP Server to serve out the IP's? I tried to implement
> > it about 3-4 years ago and it would not follow the RFC so it would only
> > work with Win95 and NT machines It couldn't serve Win3.1/Trumpet clients
> > or anything else. Ended up using a Linux Machine to dish out IP's.
> 
> I actually do not know for certain what the company is using to dish out
> its IPs (UNIX vs. NT).  I'm just a regular user on the network, and don't
> admin anything.  I would say it is very likely that the DHCP server *is*
> NT based, however, given that it seems most everything else running the
> network is NT-based.  This would be a valid answer, however, except that
> like I said, I had no problems getting an IP by manually running dhcpcd
> when I was running Red Hat 6.0.  (so in other words, the only thing that
> has changed from when it used to work until now is that I'm now running
> Mandrake 6.1)

I don't know if MandrakeSoft included the updated pump in their 6.1
release or not, but I recall seeing 6.0-era messages about the original
pump not working with MS-DHCP.  Might want to check for updated
packages.

Oh, and dhcpd has been deprecated by the use of pump for address
reception.

-- 
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack 
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation   --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Corbett J. Klempay

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Tom Berger wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> > Hey all...I just installed 6.1 (switching from RH 6.0).  It's pretty
> > slick, btw.  Anyway, my problem is this: I can plug this machine (Dell
> > Latitude CPt 333, 3c574 nic) in at home to my cable modem (Time Warner
> > Roadrunner), and have it get networking going just by typing 'dhcpcd'.
> > That's it. (I didn't try setting it to do it on boot; I just did that
> > since I've been here at work).  However, at work, if I get out of NT and
> > into Linux, typing 'dhcpcd' will simply time out after a while.  I have it
> > set to acquire via DHCP on boot now, and it fails when it tries then as
> > well.  At first I might think it is something with the way the network is
> > set up here at work, but I don't think that should be it; when I still had
> > RH 6.0 on this machine, I could get an IP at work just fine.  Any
> > suggestions?
> > 
> 
> Could you please see if this URL helps you?
> 
> http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/ccable.html

I think you may have misread my above message; I can get an IP via DHCP
when I am connected to my cable modem...it's at work on the regular
network here that I cannot get an IP. (while I used to be able to get an
IP at work when I had Red Hat 6.0)

---
Corbett J. Klempay
Trilogy Software, Inc.
512.685.4193 (W) | 512.750.1372 (C)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Corbett J. Klempay

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Fred Frigerio wrote:

> Are u using MS DHCP Server to serve out the IP's? I tried to implement
> it about 3-4 years ago and it would not follow the RFC so it would only
> work with Win95 and NT machines It couldn't serve Win3.1/Trumpet clients
> or anything else. Ended up using a Linux Machine to dish out IP's.

I actually do not know for certain what the company is using to dish out
its IPs (UNIX vs. NT).  I'm just a regular user on the network, and don't
admin anything.  I would say it is very likely that the DHCP server *is*
NT based, however, given that it seems most everything else running the
network is NT-based.  This would be a valid answer, however, except that
like I said, I had no problems getting an IP by manually running dhcpcd
when I was running Red Hat 6.0.  (so in other words, the only thing that
has changed from when it used to work until now is that I'm now running
Mandrake 6.1)

---
Corbett J. Klempay
Trilogy Software, Inc.
512.685.4193 (W) | 512.750.1372 (C)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Tom Berger

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> Hey all...I just installed 6.1 (switching from RH 6.0).  It's pretty
> slick, btw.  Anyway, my problem is this: I can plug this machine (Dell
> Latitude CPt 333, 3c574 nic) in at home to my cable modem (Time Warner
> Roadrunner), and have it get networking going just by typing 'dhcpcd'.
> That's it. (I didn't try setting it to do it on boot; I just did that
> since I've been here at work).  However, at work, if I get out of NT and
> into Linux, typing 'dhcpcd' will simply time out after a while.  I have it
> set to acquire via DHCP on boot now, and it fails when it tries then as
> well.  At first I might think it is something with the way the network is
> set up here at work, but I don't think that should be it; when I still had
> RH 6.0 on this machine, I could get an IP at work just fine.  Any
> suggestions?
> 
> ---
> Corbett J. Klempay
> Trilogy Software, Inc.
> 512.685.4193 (W) | 512.750.1372 (C)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Could you please see if this URL helps you?

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/ccable.html

Regards

tom

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RE: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness

1999-09-28 Thread Fred Frigerio

Are u using MS DHCP Server to serve out the IP's? I tried to implement
it about 3-4 years ago and it would not follow the RFC so it would only
work with Win95 and NT machines It couldn't serve Win3.1/Trumpet clients
or anything else. Ended up using a Linux Machine to dish out IP's.

> -Original Message-
> From: Corbett J. Klempay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 3:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] dhcpcd weirdness
> 
> 
> Hey all...I just installed 6.1 (switching from RH 6.0).  It's pretty
> slick, btw.  Anyway, my problem is this: I can plug this machine (Dell
> Latitude CPt 333, 3c574 nic) in at home to my cable modem (Time Warner
> Roadrunner), and have it get networking going just by typing 'dhcpcd'.
> That's it. (I didn't try setting it to do it on boot; I just did that
> since I've been here at work).  However, at work, if I get 
> out of NT and
> into Linux, typing 'dhcpcd' will simply time out after a 
> while.  I have it
> set to acquire via DHCP on boot now, and it fails when it 
> tries then as
> well.  At first I might think it is something with the way 
> the network is
> set up here at work, but I don't think that should be it; 
> when I still had
> RH 6.0 on this machine, I could get an IP at work just fine.  Any
> suggestions?
> 
> ---
> Corbett J. Klempay
> Trilogy Software, Inc.
> 512.685.4193 (W) | 512.750.1372 (C)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>