Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[Denis Havlik]

:~>Has anyone else killed 'amd'  permanently and lived to tell the tale !!

I have been using both "amd" and "autofs" since the "autofs" came to life,
and i can assure you that "autofs" runs much more reliably than amd.

Therefore, I use autofs to mount "homes" (every machine exports its home
directory to "thrusted-hosts" netgroup, and autofs mounts all the "home"
directories it can see to /homes/MACHINE). Basically, these "homes"
directories have never given me any headache.

Then, I had to add an user whose home-directory came from completely
different system, and it was not exported as "home", but as
"home/MACHINE", or so - and I thought - what the hell, I will just give
him a "/net/MACHINE/home/MACHINE"  path to his home-directory and forget
about it. Guess what? Several days later, amd got stuck and a few days of
calculations were gone. This happened repeatedly, so i had to add a rule
to "autofs" config file and everything works OK since then.

I still keep "amd" running with default settings, because i cannot bring
the "autofs" to mount "anything" under "/net" the way amd does (anybody
knows how to do it), but I do not use it for anything crytical anymore. 

:~>The auto-mount of amd is not necessary but I take it that means I would
:~>have to manually 'mount' each file system/partition ? My brain is tired
:~>again so bear with me 
:~>if this is all common knowledge...???

Either that, or you mount everything from "fstab" or you let the "autofs"
do it.

cu
Denis
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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[WH Bouterse]

Looking at 'top'
switching to ps ax
then
kill -9 PID # is usually what I have done. 
Also sometimes kill -9 PID # of 'ld-linux.so'
However I am about to go back to the previous version if this keeps up.
Or maybe some of you coder-gurus can get together with Civileme and cook
something up!

"To Kill or not to Kill, that is the question !!??"

I like that idea . However Axalon or any of you other folks "out
there"..
Has anyone else killed 'amd'  permanently and lived to tell the tale !!
I have never paid much attention to mounting and unmounting files
systems
except for /dev/cdrom or maybe /dev/fd0 etc. I guess thanks to amd,
So from what yu are saying
The auto-mount of amd is not necessary but I take it that means I would
have to manually 'mount' each file system/partition ? My brain is tired
again so bear with me 
if this is all common knowledge...???

I have buggered-up or should I say "have contributed toward greater
bugginess"
of my L-M 6.1 system, so often these last couple months that it seems,
every time I attempt to "Fix" one thing two other things screw up.

Ah Well I love Linux anyway !!!

William "the unrepentent" Bouterse
Juneau, Alaska

Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[Sheldon Lee Wen]

> I have not seen such problems with 6.1, but then I decided the upgrade to
> Netscape 4.7 wasn't worth it, and stuck with 4.61.

I'm on 6.1 and still using the old netscape and I have this problem
occassionally
too.

Sheldon.
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"Superstition is a word the ignorant use to describe their ignorance."
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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[alann]

WH Bouterse wrote:
> 
> I too have seen a recent reawakening of the dreaded netscape induced
> 'ld-linux.so '  with 95% CPU usage.
> 
> L-M 6.1,  netscape-common-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm and
> netscape-communicator-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm installed
> 
> This will cause netscape to basically cease to be usable at times, yet
> at other times it is merely a brief hiccup and usage is restored.
> 
> At the same time I have noticed something perhaps not related but...???
> 
> Netscape hangs, I 'kill' it try again no luck, suddenly cannot telnet,
> ftp etc
> "no connection to host" appears;
> 

Yea, me too. thats what got me on this topic.

How are you "killing" it?

Top or Process commander??

THis won't do it.

In a terminal:

killall -9 netscape-communicator

This will fix it.
Then restart Nutscrape.



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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[Civileme]

WH Bouterse wrote:

> I too have seen a recent reawakening of the dreaded netscape induced
> 'ld-linux.so '  with 95% CPU usage.
>
> L-M 6.1,  netscape-common-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm and
> netscape-communicator-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm installed
>
> This will cause netscape to basically cease to be usable at times, yet
> at other times it is merely a brief hiccup and usage is restored.
>
> At the same time I have noticed something perhaps not related but...???
>
> Netscape hangs, I 'kill' it try again no luck, suddenly cannot telnet,
> ftp etc
> "no connection to host" appears;
>
> 'ifconfig' shows everything functioning "A-Okay"
>
> I reboot: system seems to hang on 'AMD' initializing then after 5
> minutes says "OK"
> System still exhibits the same problem???
>
> I reboot into M$ and everything is working fine (with a knowing smile
> from my wife)
>
> I reboot into L-M 6.1 again , no AMD hiccup, everything works fine !!!
>
> What in the "HAPPY HACKING" is going on !!!??? Is my system Haunted  ???
>
> This has been the most "challenging" version of Linux I have ever used,
> or perhaps;
> I know just enough to get into trouble !!??? :-)
>
> William Bouterse
> Juneau, Alaska

I have not seen such problems with 6.1, but then I decided the upgrade to
Netscape 4.7 wasn't worth it, and stuck with 4.61.

Browsers have been an annoyance for a while, for me.  If anyone knows a lot
about the modern requirements of HTML and plug-ins (but not a Christmas
Tree of Browser, Composer, Mailer and ready-made pop-up access for the ad
agencies) and is willing to lead a project, email me.  I have some time for
coding, and there are a couple of projects which could be picked up from an
older state.


Civileme

Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, WH Bouterse wrote:

> I will certainly try that next time this happens?
> 
> I have never had a inetd daemon die before. 

maybe it wasn't dead, it does do throttleing based upon load.

> I would be curious what the causative factors might be.?

kill -9 7167 
"oh s**t, didn't that "ps ax|grep blah" say 7176 ahh poop", been there
done that more than i'd like to admit.

> I recently "commented in" everything and could this be the problem?

Yes but not so likely

> What to open up without too many security risks?

 open only what you need, and only to who you need via firewall rules
The first thing I would do would be kill amd, i've yet to see a use for it
that justifies the risks
 
> This is pretty much a 24/7 , static IP cable-modem connection.
> 
> Thanks for the idea:-)
> 
> William Bouterse
> Juneau, Alaska
> 

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--Axalon

Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[WH Bouterse]

I will certainly try that next time this happens?

I have never had a inetd daemon die before. 
I would be curious what the causative factors might be.?
I recently "commented in" everything and could this be the problem?
What to open up without too many security risks?

This is pretty much a 24/7 , static IP cable-modem connection.

Thanks for the idea:-)

William Bouterse
Juneau, Alaska

Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[Nick Kay]

At 07:22 24/11/99 -0900, you wrote:

>At the same time I have noticed something perhaps not related but...???
>
>Netscape hangs, I 'kill' it try again no luck, suddenly cannot telnet,
>ftp etc
>"no connection to host" appears;
>
>'ifconfig' shows everything functioning "A-Okay"
>This has been the most "challenging" version of Linux I have ever used,
>or perhaps;
>I know just enough to get into trouble !!??? :-)

Could you try restarting the inetd daemon - or even check
to make sure it's still running?

hih
nick@nexnix

Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[WH Bouterse]

I too have seen a recent reawakening of the dreaded netscape induced
'ld-linux.so '  with 95% CPU usage. 

L-M 6.1,  netscape-common-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm and 
netscape-communicator-4.70-1mdk.i586.rpm installed

This will cause netscape to basically cease to be usable at times, yet
at other times it is merely a brief hiccup and usage is restored.

At the same time I have noticed something perhaps not related but...???

Netscape hangs, I 'kill' it try again no luck, suddenly cannot telnet,
ftp etc
"no connection to host" appears;

'ifconfig' shows everything functioning "A-Okay"

I reboot: system seems to hang on 'AMD' initializing then after 5
minutes says "OK"
System still exhibits the same problem???

I reboot into M$ and everything is working fine (with a knowing smile
from my wife)

I reboot into L-M 6.1 again , no AMD hiccup, everything works fine !!!

What in the "HAPPY HACKING" is going on !!!??? Is my system Haunted  ???

This has been the most "challenging" version of Linux I have ever used,
or perhaps;
I know just enough to get into trouble !!??? :-)

William Bouterse
Juneau, Alaska