[FairfieldLife] Re: Blanched almonds
> > ALMONDS PACK POTENT ANTIOXIDANT PUNCH > > > > Don't blanche your almonds! In a new study published in this > > month's Journal of Nutrition, USDA researchers have shown > > that the antioxidants in almond skins and the vitamin E > > inside almonds work together as a free radical-busting team. > > Aah, that's just omnivore propaganda: > > "The ayurvedic way to eat almonds is first to blanch the shelled nuts > and then soak them overnight. Removing the skins removes any Pitta- > aggravating qualities and the soaking helps to make them lighter and > easier to digest. > http://www.discoverayurveda.com/diet/diet-pacifyingnuts.html Yeah, *everything* about the TMO and Maharishi's teaching is easier to understand if you keep this phrase in mind. Got uncontrollable twitching, both during meditation and during activity? Call it 'unstressing.' Doesn't that make it easier to digest? Got a country that you made a "proclamation" about only a year ago saying that you would bring peace to the world, starting with that country, that didn't...uh...quite work out? Ban all TM teaching in that country and blame the state of the world on that country. Makes it all easier to digest. Got a tradition that robs food of their nutrients? Praise the tradition and pass the "easier to digest." Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are right on the beam. Teaching in the field there never was any > tangible regional support. Occasional spurts of national publicity, > but no other support, just mandates. And it was run like commision > sales. When there wasn't enough for full-time support it was done > from devotion to an ideal. With no one caring about "sales." I would be surprised if more than a dozen people start TM in America a month. Possibly a year. > Very frustrating. Now there seems to be greater > success in this country in fund raising and long term real estate > investment. Is this happening elsewhere, besides Great Briton and > hte US? It's ALL about fund-raising. THAT is the ideal. One can believe that the funds go somewhere useful or not, but it takes a real head-in-the-sand person these days to pretend it's about getting people to start meditating. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
> Have you ever seen the signs (eeg studies etc...) of any other people > besides TMers. Did you even take a look at > Ken_Stops_His_Brainwaves.wmv that Vaj posted? Pretty impressive. I'm afraid that was a cheat! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: account of MUM dining hall murder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously, the Powers that Be thought this was simple unstressing > and didn't act on the warning signs. Well, duh. That's the whole purpose of the term 'unstressing.' It's a term invented so that you can dismiss something bad or unpleasant happening as "something good happening." It's a mechanism for never examining the possibility that the unpleasant experience per se might not be either necessary or productive. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
What he said below. Plus, there is the possibility, the universe being infinite and not limited to concepts like humans, that every experience of enlightenment by every human who ever experienced it could have been different. Talk about pushing buttons...the scripturalists who want everything to be predictable and documentable would have a bigger problem with that possibility than they would the idea that there might not be a sentient God. Unc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". > > Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". Tom > is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC > being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as to > why there was nothing "baby" about it. But with Sat Yuga and all, > maybe things are mellower. You yourself are even making what you > previous called "huge epistimological mistakes!" and laughing it away. > > On a more serious note, do you singularly define CC as "Cessation of > identification of consciousness with mind. End of 'I' and 'me'"? Do > you feel "No I" is both nexcessary and sufficient to label the > experience "CC"? Without relying on dogmatic kneejerks, it does seems > there are additional "attributes" along with or beyond the experience > of "No I". > > Though as you know I am no fan or labeling any experience or person > with such labels, it seems that if one does enjoy that exercise, they > may be jumping the gun a bit to "ring the bell of Eureka" of CC simple > when experience "no I". But as people often remind me that I know > nothing, I tend to agree. > > Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening at > the Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla is > really the same as triple jamaca almond machadamion nut ghee-fudge > blueberry mocha mintchip chavanaprash cherry saffron swirl with gold > leaf topping? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
No, it is not a response to Chopra. The purpose of an organisation - is to organize on all levels. Ingegerd > > It's a response to Chopra, I think. Chopra would never have stood for > such a thing. Abu-Nader is quite competent, as far as I can tell, but > he will never be able to set up a splinter organization based on his > own personal popularity outside the TM organization the way CHopra > could. > > > But my creativity is blossoming outside the TMO.I am more > fullfilled > > outside than inside the TMO. > > What is the purpose of the TMO? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Terri Schiavo
What a travesty and mockery of life, that those in political power used Terri Schivo, to emotionalize their power base. The same people justify sending our young people off to die. It don't make no sense. easyone200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What a surprise, all those wacky right to lifer' were wrong. The autopsy of Terri Schiavo found no evidence that the severely brain-damaged woman was strangled or abused and that no amount of therapy would have reversed her condition, a medical examiner said Wednesday.She also was not abused by her husband, another favored ploy of the wack-pack fundies.The medical examiner said his examination turned up "no sign of abuse or trauma" -- allegations leveled by Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, against her husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo.The editing of 50 hours or so of video tape to get the phony "responses" of Teri to commands and her tracking eye movements are now seen as what they truly were, the lies and political side show of the christian right wing nuts. She had less than half a brain and no functioning visual cortex.A report from a neuropathologist who served as a consultant to the autopsy said Schiavo's brain was "grossly abnormal and weighed only 615 grams [1.35 pounds]." Her brain was profoundly atrophied," he said.The vision center of her brain was dead, he said."This damage was irreversible," said Dr. Thogmartin. "No amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."I can however, understand why these fundies want to keep the Terri's of the world alive. If C.A.T. scans were taken of fundie church members brains they would look a little too much like.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > What a surprise, all those wacky right to lifer' were wrong. > > > The autopsy of Terri Schiavo found no evidence that the severely > > brain-damaged woman > > > was strangled or abused and that no amount of therapy would have > > reversed her > > > condition, a medical examiner said Wednesday. > > > > > > She also was not abused by her husband, another favored ploy of the > > wack-pack fundies. > > > The medical examiner said his examination turned up "no sign of > > abuse or trauma" -- > > > allegations leveled by Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary > > Schindler, against her > > > husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo. > > > > > > The editing of 50 hours or so of video tape to get the phony > > "responses" of Teri to > > > commands and her tracking eye movements are now seen as what they > > truly were, the lies > > > and political side show of the christian right wing nuts. She had > > less than half a brain and > > > no functioning visual cortex. > > > > > > A report from a neuropathologist who served as a consultant to the > > autopsy said Schiavo's > > > brain was "grossly abnormal and weighed only 615 grams [1.35 > > pounds]." Her brain was > > > profoundly atrophied," he said.The vision center of her brain was > > dead, he said. > > > "This damage was irreversible," said Dr. Thogmartin. "No amount of > > therapy or treatment > > > would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons." > > > > > > I can however, understand why these fundies want to keep the Terri's > > of the world alive. If > > > C.A.T. scans were taken of fundie church members brains they would > > look a little too > > > much like. > > > > I wonder how much of that brain weight loss was due to 19 days (or 11, > > whatever it was) without water. I guess that the brain would be the > > last to give up water but I don't know. Has it ever been studied? > > > > JohnY > It weighed less because the structures were not there, as in missing. The tissue had been > reabsorbed by the body after it died due to oxygen deprivation years earlier. As to how > much water an intact brain looses during dehydration I don't know. Oh, did not hear that the structures were missing. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [...] > > > > > What is your definition of "awakening" ? > > > > > > > > Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C. > > > > > > But how do you know that it was the leaving that prompted the > > > awakening, or the awakening that prompted the leaving? > > > > Either way - it's the head and tail of the same cat ... How many of > > the 'newly awakened' do you know that are still 'true believers'? > > > > And that's as circular as I want to get! > > > > The people who are being studied at MUM show the highest signs of CC > of anyone that I am aware of. True, perhaps all the people in "real" > CC aren't available for study, or perhaps the people that left are > the ones who are deluding themselves. > > You can always organize a study of "newly awakened" former TMers and > compare their physiology to the ongoing participants in the program. Have you ever seen the signs (eeg studies etc...) of any other people besides TMers. Did you even take a look at Ken_Stops_His_Brainwaves.wmv that Vaj posted? Pretty impressive. Next time I can presuade the NIH to float me a million or so I'll gather up a few of the 'newly awakened' for a study. I the mean time, it seems that some people have made significant progress after leaving TMO or they made significant progress and they decided to leave and present their knowlege outside the context of TM. Whatever. There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here writing on FFL, willing to stick their necks out. How many of them are still closely associated with the TMO? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > What a surprise, all those wacky right to lifer' were wrong. > > The autopsy of Terri Schiavo found no evidence that the severely > brain-damaged woman > > was strangled or abused and that no amount of therapy would have > reversed her > > condition, a medical examiner said Wednesday. > > > > She also was not abused by her husband, another favored ploy of the > wack-pack fundies. > > The medical examiner said his examination turned up "no sign of > abuse or trauma" -- > > allegations leveled by Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary > Schindler, against her > > husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo. > > > > The editing of 50 hours or so of video tape to get the phony > "responses" of Teri to > > commands and her tracking eye movements are now seen as what they > truly were, the lies > > and political side show of the christian right wing nuts. She had > less than half a brain and > > no functioning visual cortex. > > > > A report from a neuropathologist who served as a consultant to the > autopsy said Schiavo's > > brain was "grossly abnormal and weighed only 615 grams [1.35 > pounds]." Her brain was > > profoundly atrophied," he said.The vision center of her brain was > dead, he said. > > "This damage was irreversible," said Dr. Thogmartin. "No amount of > therapy or treatment > > would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons." > > > > I can however, understand why these fundies want to keep the Terri's > of the world alive. If > > C.A.T. scans were taken of fundie church members brains they would > look a little too > > much like. > > I wonder how much of that brain weight loss was due to 19 days (or 11, > whatever it was) without water. I guess that the brain would be the > last to give up water but I don't know. Has it ever been studied? > > JohnY It weighed less because the structures were not there, as in missing. The tissue had been reabsorbed by the body after it died due to oxygen deprivation years earlier. As to how much water an intact brain looses during dehydration I don't know. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
mind or no mind; maybe has more to do with thoughts; no thoughts; just being. just the simplest state of awareness; awareness aware of itself; self-aware. feeling the total emptiness of infinite space, and being there, with no fear of loss of self. What a paradox?..akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Some responses below:> > akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen> wrote:> > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". No more localization of consciousness. The localization produces the"I". There are still some pretty pernicious mental habits that themind engages in (ala Suzanne Segal). ...> We don't know anything at all! A state of wonder when the mind stopsand doesn't know.First there is a mind then t here is no mind. Peter, make up your mind!To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How much did they pay for it originally and who staked the money for > > it? Yes, *Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund* but > > which donors actually staked the money for the idea? Do they still > > think their money is going for 'peace-making projects'? > > > > Do you have reason to think it is not? Contact the IRS. They would LOVE > to be able to get their hands on part of the millions that the Global > Development Fund has accumulated over the years. Haw! Blackstone Hotel? Were those the years of Old Zimmerman money? or sturart Z. or Chroman money? Foster and Rubin type of nuevo-money? ITG days? Gratzen or Telegroup? Do they still think their money is being used for *peace-making projects*? Chicago? Blackstone? Ponneman ITG money? Yes, non=profit tax exempt charitable educational organization. Except for the fact that in pattern the money seems to go to Europe and disappear in India in Indian *Foundations*. Sounds more like a ...*RICO*. Spelled: Racketeering? Read the archive here even in FFL and read the federal example case against securities fraud: 'To be in a position to have "known or should have known" '. What of the good people in the TMO developement office? Doing the bidding of the *TMO* like Jane or some lowling like Wooster, or a Todt? *Known or should have known*? People who fundraise now like Hagelin or Morris or Wallace or someone spokesman even like, a Lipman? Spokepeople? Shills? In a position *to have known or should have known*. Methodically selling for *peace-making projects* that seem to not materilize. Non-profit enterprize that seem to be money diversionary projects primarily, called philantrophy fraud. Not uncommon generally, turns out even our Iowa US IA Senator Grassley in the Finance Committe is having hearings about this very subject of *Philantrophy Frand* and the enormous loss of capital and income that it generates. What better example than a home town RICO? The Ia. Attorney General even has its own laws just on this type of fraud. Jeez. The 4th of July is only just a few days away. Damn demeocracy? Of course is you are and aquisitive MMY and No, bless the Decl of Independ. and also the US constitution of us and our bills of rights that allows us to live together against just such methodical fraud as we are seeing even before us! Re-cerification? Haw! Bring on our Attorneys Generals to defend us with Truth and re-concilliation. Yea, '20,000' US teachers of TM/ govenors and only a few hundred re-certifying? Says a lot about the credibililty of the TMO even amoungst those who know. MMY and the TMO are not even close to Truth and Reconcilliation with us generally. They have not touched *transparency* with anything close to a ten-foot pole. In fact they are down to a few hundreds of true-believers and then a whole movement of now de-certified teachers and governors. And meditatiors? They do not even know what they have obviously spawned. What does this say about the "great teacher"? It is pretty evident: bring on democracy and enlightenment. It is also called transparency. JGD =D To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > > > > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". > > > > > > > > Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby > awakening". > > > Tom > > > > is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as > CC > > > > being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 > posts as > > > to > > > > why there was nothing "baby" about it. > > > > > > > > > Actually, MMY has characterized CC as "merely normal," and > > > as "glorified ignorance." > > > > > > All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim > > > that "I" and "me" goes away is either a mis-identification of CC > with > > > extreme unstressing resulting in pathological derealization, or a > > > misinterpretation of what MMY is describing. > > > > Is this based on personal experience? > > "I" will never tell. I take that as a no. And am left with the impression that your view is based on your interpretation of any number of advanced lecture tapes you heard and "assimilated" over the years. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some responses below: > > akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > wrote: > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". No more localization of consciousness. The localization produces the "I". There are still some pretty pernicious mental habits that the mind engages in (ala Suzanne Segal). ... > We don't know anything at all! A state of wonder when the mind stops and doesn't know. First there is a mind then t here is no mind. Peter, make up your mind! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some responses below: > > akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > wrote: > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". > > Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". Tom > is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC > being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as to > why there was nothing "baby" about it. But with Sat Yuga and all, > maybe things are mellower. You yourself are even making what you > previous called "huge epistimological mistakes!" and laughing it away. > > That's your karma with Tom, not me! If Tom objects to the term "baby" with regards to CC, why would it matter if I said it or you said it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > > > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". > > > > > > Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". > > Tom > > > is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC > > > being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as > > to > > > why there was nothing "baby" about it. > > > > > > Actually, MMY has characterized CC as "merely normal," and > > as "glorified ignorance." > > > > All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim > > that "I" and "me" goes away is either a mis-identification of CC with > > extreme unstressing resulting in pathological derealization, or a > > misinterpretation of what MMY is describing. > > Is this based on personal experience? "I" will never tell. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". > > > > Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". > Tom > > is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC > > being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as > to > > why there was nothing "baby" about it. > > > Actually, MMY has characterized CC as "merely normal," and > as "glorified ignorance." > > All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim > that "I" and "me" goes away is either a mis-identification of CC with > extreme unstressing resulting in pathological derealization, or a > misinterpretation of what MMY is describing. Is this based on personal experience? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > > > > What is your definition of "awakening" ? > > > > > > Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C. > > > > But how do you know that it was the leaving that prompted the > > awakening, or the awakening that prompted the leaving? > > Either way - it's the head and tail of the same cat ... How many of > the 'newly awakened' do you know that are still 'true believers'? > > And that's as circular as I want to get! > The people who are being studied at MUM show the highest signs of CC of anyone that I am aware of. True, perhaps all the people in "real" CC aren't available for study, or perhaps the people that left are the ones who are deluding themselves. You can always organize a study of "newly awakened" former TMers and compare their physiology to the ongoing participants in the program. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > http://www.globest.com/news/306_306/chicago/135246-1.html > > > > > > "Sage Hospitality Resources executive vice president Kenneth J. > Geist > > > says his company has been attempting to acquire the hotel at 636 > S. > > > Michigan Ave. for five years. The property has been vacant since > 1999 > > > as plans by Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund to > > > convert the building into about 100 luxury condominiums have > fizzled. > > > > > > > > > Although Maharishi Global Development Fund has sought a much > higher > > > price, according to the city's department of planning and > > > development, Sage Hospitality Resources has struck a deal to buy > the > > > 321,516-sf asset overlooking Grant Park for $22.3 million. Still, > > > city appraisals place the value of the hotel at $16 million to > $19 > > > million. > > > > > > > Bob, > > Do you know what the movement paid for the hotel? > > Looks like it's a good time to sell movement real estate in the US. > > Veda Land , Chicago and the few others that have been mentioned in > the > > last 6 or 8 months. Looks like the property purchased in the last > > round of projects and fund raising is ripe to move. > > > > JohnY > > > *** > > I don't know what the movement paid for the Blackstone, but real > estate is up everywhere, so they certainly did all right. But on the > other hand, when adjusted for inflation, and after paying taxes and > security and maintenance (which the TMO is famous for minimizing) for > years, it's unlikely to be a windfall in terms of real-dollar > appreciation. Lots of properties are going on the block -- probably > funds will go to building peace palaces, although having only 6 such > palaces per state, a minimum presence, at $3mil/per, amounts to $900 > million, and all the sales over the last year probably do not amount > to more than $100 million or so: > > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#sales 100 million here, 100 million there. Pretty soon it adds up to real money. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > http://www.globest.com/news/306_306/chicago/135246-1.html > > > > > > "Sage Hospitality Resources executive vice president Kenneth J. > Geist > > > says his company has been attempting to acquire the hotel at 636 > S. > > > Michigan Ave. for five years. The property has been vacant since > 1999 > > > as plans by Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund to > > > convert the building into about 100 luxury condominiums have > fizzled. > > > > > > > > > Although Maharishi Global Development Fund has sought a much > higher > > > price, according to the city's department of planning and > > > development, Sage Hospitality Resources has struck a deal to buy > the > > > 321,516-sf asset overlooking Grant Park for $22.3 million. Still, > > > city appraisals place the value of the hotel at $16 million to > $19 > > > million. > > > > > > > Bob, > > Do you know what the movement paid for the hotel? > > Looks like it's a good time to sell movement real estate in the US. > > Veda Land , Chicago and the few others that have been mentioned in > the > > last 6 or 8 months. Looks like the property purchased in the last > > round of projects and fund raising is ripe to move. > > > > JohnY > > > *** > > I don't know what the movement paid for the Blackstone, but real > estate is up everywhere, so they certainly did all right. But on the > other hand, when adjusted for inflation, and after paying taxes and > security and maintenance (which the TMO is famous for minimizing) for > years, it's unlikely to be a windfall in terms of real-dollar > appreciation. Lots of properties are going on the block -- probably > funds will go to building peace palaces, although having only 6 such > palaces per state, a minimum presence, at $3mil/per, amounts to $900 > million, and all the sales over the last year probably do not amount > to more than $100 million or so: > > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#sales If the Palaces are acutually built. They may be just the new framework for another round of fund raising and property aquisition. Probably a lot of that is going on in India for long term investment. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: account of MUM dining hall murder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Obviously, the Powers that Be thought this was simple unstressing > and > > didn't act on the warning signs. > > > > * > > It's not true that the powersthatbe at MUM thought that Sem was just > unstressing -- they regarded him as a serious threat. I was referring to warning signs BEFORE the attacks. All the physical attacks, as far as I know, happened on the same day. There were signs that he had severe problems before the attacks, and it is THOSE that I was referring to: > > > Other psychiatric reports said that Sem had engaged in unusual > > > behaviors in the approximately six weeks that he had been on > > campus. > > > He would often engage in sudden outbursts of aggression which > were > > > surprising and confusing to other students. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to > develop, > > >>> but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > > >>> > > >> Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts > and > > >> judgments, which holds them back. > > > > > > For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. > > > > > > What is your definition of "awakening" ? > > > > Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C. > > But how do you know that it was the leaving that prompted the > awakening, or the awakening that prompted the leaving? Either way - it's the head and tail of the same cat ... How many of the 'newly awakened' do you know that are still 'true believers'? And that's as circular as I want to get! JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: account of MUM dining hall murder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously, the Powers that Be thought this was simple unstressing and > didn't act on the warning signs. > * It's not true that the powersthatbe at MUM thought that Sem was just unstressing -- they regarded him as a serious threat. In fact, MUM intended to put Sem on a plane home the next morning, but just did the typical halfassed movement things that ended up with a dead kid in the dining hall. Campus security was not contacted after the first stabbing (possibly because not all MUM guards are meditators and definitely because an entry in the security log for a violent crime would have to be reported in the school's annual report on campus crime even if the police were not involved), an attempt was made to contact the Director of Security, Bedinger, but he was busy with other stuff. Sem clearly should not have been allowed contact with students after his crazy and unprovoked assault, but the level of disorder in MUM admin thinking does not allow this type of reasoning, which is why, among other things, there are no pundits in the Vedic City trailer park: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/index.html#murder > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.ottumwacourier.com/site/news.cfm?brd=2575 > > > > > > By:ERIKA RICHARDS, Courier correspondent 06/15/2005 > > > > FAIRFIELD - Days and hours before attacking Levi Butler last year > in > > the campus dining hall, Maharishi University of Management > classmates > > had observed "unusual behavior" by Shuvender Sem, who was found not > > guilty Monday in the first-degree murder death of Butler by reason > of > > insanity. > > More details around the death of the MUM student last year became > > available this week after the court released its written verdict > > along with findings of fact in the case. > > According to court documents, Butler and John Killian, who also was > > attacked by Sem earlier in the day of March 1, 2004, were > > acquaintances of Sem while Killian shared a dormitory with his > > attacker. > > Apparently, there was no prior dispute or disagreement between > either > > Killian or Butler and Sem and court documents reveal that there > > appeared to be no warning or provocation at the time of the fatal > > attack against Butler. > > At about 2 p.m. that day, while attending an afternoon class at the > > university, Sem assaulted Killian by stabbing him in the jaw with a > > ballpoint pen, resulting in the later charge of assault to commit > > serious injury. > > Following the attack on Killian, Sem's professors removed him from > > class and escorted him to an apartment for closer observation. > > At about 6:40 p.m., without anyone's knowledge, Sem left the > > apartment with a kitchen paring knife and went to the dining hall. > He > > was found eating dinner with other students. > > Butler was eating his evening meal with another group of students a > > few tables away from Sem. Near the end of the meal, Sem stood up > and > > moved to a seat next to Butler. > > Shortly thereafter, and while Butler was visiting with Sem, Sem > stood > > up and yelled "What the [expletive] did you just say to me? What > the > > hell is going on?" and then attacked Butler. > > Some of the witnesses closest to the scene thought Sem was just > > punching Butler but it was not until they saw Butler grab his chest > > and saw blood pouring from the wound that they realized he had been > > stabbed. > > Witnesses said that immediately after the attack, Butler looked > very > > confused, and then collapsed. > > Sem appeared to be angry and excited and within seconds became very > > calm and seemed to be smiling with a "vacant" look on his face and > at > > one point said, "I'm sorry, really sorry," according to those > > witnesses. > > One of the students held Sem from behind until police investigators > > arrived. > > Police say that when he was detained in the patrol car, Sem was > > crying and then seconds later, he had a big smile on his face. > > After being transported by emergency personnel to the Jefferson > > County Hospital, Butler was unresponsive, not breathing on his own, > > and died at 8:30 p.m. > > Other psychiatric reports said that Sem had engaged in unusual > > behaviors in the approximately six weeks that he had been on > campus. > > He would often engage in sudden outbursts of aggression which were > > surprising and confusing to other students. > > Judge E. Richard Meadows Monday accepted the conclusions from both > > the prosecution and defense that Sem was insane when he stabbed > > Butler and ordered Sem to be committed to the Oakdale Correctional > > Facility for further treatment and evaluation. > > > > > > > > ©Ottumwa Courier 2005 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me
I gave up smiling around the same time I realized how stupid I was to not get the nickname uns_tressor. - Original Message - From: anonymousff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me so typical of this fest37 "contribution", to show up like a snakeand then go underground again, waiting for the next sting...--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote> When did you stop smiling? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> > BTW, I was 19 in the orange hair picture and I'm 39 now. That's what > happened obviously. Der.> > > > - Original Message - > > From: Llundrub > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:54 PM> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me> > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ! What happened to that baby face picture with the orange > > hair. I feel like I'm looking at Aleister Crowly, and I'm not sure > > exactly what he looks like. Maybe I'll muscle up some courage and > > send you one of me.> > > > lurk> > > > --Funny, I was born on the same birthday as Aliester Crowley - Oct 12th. > > > > I had just got home from Home Depot and it was 96 degrees out. I do smile > alot. Most all the time in fact. OK, enough about me. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 6/15/05 11:59 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Somehow I missed this "course correction" idea earlier. It's a > good > > > >> map to think about the folks who made big leaps in development > after > > > >> leaving the TMO. (Yes, Peter I know... realization...) > > > >> > > > > > > > > Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to > develop, > > > > but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > > > > > > > Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in > concepts and > > > judgments, which holds them back. When the step away from the > TMO, the > > > distance, plus new experiences, enables them to unravel those > > concepts and > > > judgments. For some, this is all that's needed to trigger > awakening. > > > > Yup, what he said. Re-examination of concepts that have 'grooved' > into > > the mind, breaks them thar' boundries or allows the concepts to > become > > much subtler. > > But why does one need to "leave" the TMO in order to re-examine > concepts and so on? Not always, it's just something I and others have noticed. Sometimes 'leaving' is part of growth. There is really very little organization left to leave. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How much did they pay for it originally and who staked the money for > it? Yes, *Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund* but > which donors actually staked the money for the idea? Do they still > think their money is going for 'peace-making projects'? > Do you have reason to think it is not? Contact the IRS. They would LOVE to be able to get their hands on part of the millions that the Global Development Fund has accumulated over the years. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blanched almonds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.theomnivore.com/June_16_2005_Newsletter.html > > ALMONDS PACK POTENT ANTIOXIDANT PUNCH > > Don't blanche your almonds! In a new study published in this > month's Journal of Nutrition, USDA researchers have shown > that the antioxidants in almond skins and the vitamin E > inside almonds work together as a free radical-busting team. > Aah, that's just omnivore propaganda: "The ayurvedic way to eat almonds is first to blanch the shelled nuts and then soak them overnight. Removing the skins removes any Pitta- aggravating qualities and the soaking helps to make them lighter and easier to digest. http://www.discoverayurveda.com/diet/diet-pacifyingnuts.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For the last 20 years, TM-Teachers in Norway have had a lot of good ideas to develop the TMO in a good direction, to develop a healthy administration and organisation. **snip** Everything is decided from the International TMO, where MMY is on the top. We have blamed the National Leaders for not doing their jobs for years, but they have only been acting by the will of the International TMO and/or MMY. Now, when I am the outside the TMO, I can in some way look at what happened with me in the TMO from a distance. It was too much stress and frustration and failed projects and I do not feel that was good for my raise of consciousness. To be inside a rigid framework and not allowed to use the creativity, felt like a great loss for me. And I think that is one of the reasons that many TM-Teachers left the TMO, most of them very disappointed, some of them with broken neck. -- The teaching part is great - the knowledge is great - but the framework is wrong. -- **snip** I do not know whose creativity is blossoming now, because what is happening with malls and kings and rajas is far behind my fantasy. But my creativity is blossoming outside the TMO.I am more fullfilled outside than inside the TMO. Ingegerd You are right on the beam. Teaching in the field there never was any tangible regional support. Occasional spurts of national publicity, but no other support, just mandates. And it was run like commision sales. When there wasn't enough for full-time support it was done from devotion to an ideal. Very frustrating. Now there seems to be greater success in this country in fund raising and long term real estate investment. Is this happening elsewhere, besides Great Briton and hte US? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". > > Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". Tom > is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC > being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as to > why there was nothing "baby" about it. Actually, MMY has characterized CC as "merely normal," and as "glorified ignorance." All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim that "I" and "me" goes away is either a mis-identification of CC with extreme unstressing resulting in pathological derealization, or a misinterpretation of what MMY is describing. But with Sat Yuga and all, > maybe things are mellower. You yourself are even making what you > previous called "huge epistimological mistakes!" and laughing it away. > > On a more serious note, do you singularly define CC as "Cessation of > identification of consciousness with mind. End of 'I' and 'me'"? Do > you feel "No I" is both nexcessary and sufficient to label the > experience "CC"? Without relying on dogmatic kneejerks, it does seems > there are additional "attributes" along with or beyond the experience > of "No I". > > Though as you know I am no fan or labeling any experience or person > with such labels, it seems that if one does enjoy that exercise, they > may be jumping the gun a bit to "ring the bell of Eureka" of CC simple > when experience "no I". But as people often remind me that I know > nothing, I tend to agree. > > Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening at > the Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla is > really the same as triple jamaca almond machadamion nut ghee-fudge > blueberry mocha mintchip chavanaprash cherry saffron swirl with gold > leaf topping? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.globest.com/news/306_306/chicago/135246-1.html > > > > "Sage Hospitality Resources executive vice president Kenneth J. Geist > > says his company has been attempting to acquire the hotel at 636 S. > > Michigan Ave. for five years. The property has been vacant since 1999 > > as plans by Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund to > > convert the building into about 100 luxury condominiums have fizzled. > > > > > > Although Maharishi Global Development Fund has sought a much higher > > price, according to the city's department of planning and > > development, Sage Hospitality Resources has struck a deal to buy the > > 321,516-sf asset overlooking Grant Park for $22.3 million. Still, > > city appraisals place the value of the hotel at $16 million to $19 > > million. > > > Bob, > Do you know what the movement paid for the hotel? > Looks like it's a good time to sell movement real estate in the US. > Veda Land , Chicago and the few others that have been mentioned in the > last 6 or 8 months. Looks like the property purchased in the last > round of projects and fund raising is ripe to move. > > JohnY *** I don't know what the movement paid for the Blackstone, but real estate is up everywhere, so they certainly did all right. But on the other hand, when adjusted for inflation, and after paying taxes and security and maintenance (which the TMO is famous for minimizing) for years, it's unlikely to be a windfall in terms of real-dollar appreciation. Lots of properties are going on the block -- probably funds will go to building peace palaces, although having only 6 such palaces per state, a minimum presence, at $3mil/per, amounts to $900 million, and all the sales over the last year probably do not amount to more than $100 million or so: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#sales To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [...] > > For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. > > > > What is your definition of "awakening" ? > > Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C. > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". CC is NOT the end of "I" and "me." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >>> Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, > >>> but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > >>> > >> Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and > >> judgments, which holds them back. > > > > For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. > > > > What is your definition of "awakening" ? > > Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C. But how do you know that it was the leaving that prompted the awakening, or the awakening that prompted the leaving? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: account of MUM dining hall murder
Obviously, the Powers that Be thought this was simple unstressing and didn't act on the warning signs. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.ottumwacourier.com/site/news.cfm?brd=2575 > > > By:ERIKA RICHARDS, Courier correspondent 06/15/2005 > > FAIRFIELD - Days and hours before attacking Levi Butler last year in > the campus dining hall, Maharishi University of Management classmates > had observed "unusual behavior" by Shuvender Sem, who was found not > guilty Monday in the first-degree murder death of Butler by reason of > insanity. > More details around the death of the MUM student last year became > available this week after the court released its written verdict > along with findings of fact in the case. > According to court documents, Butler and John Killian, who also was > attacked by Sem earlier in the day of March 1, 2004, were > acquaintances of Sem while Killian shared a dormitory with his > attacker. > Apparently, there was no prior dispute or disagreement between either > Killian or Butler and Sem and court documents reveal that there > appeared to be no warning or provocation at the time of the fatal > attack against Butler. > At about 2 p.m. that day, while attending an afternoon class at the > university, Sem assaulted Killian by stabbing him in the jaw with a > ballpoint pen, resulting in the later charge of assault to commit > serious injury. > Following the attack on Killian, Sem's professors removed him from > class and escorted him to an apartment for closer observation. > At about 6:40 p.m., without anyone's knowledge, Sem left the > apartment with a kitchen paring knife and went to the dining hall. He > was found eating dinner with other students. > Butler was eating his evening meal with another group of students a > few tables away from Sem. Near the end of the meal, Sem stood up and > moved to a seat next to Butler. > Shortly thereafter, and while Butler was visiting with Sem, Sem stood > up and yelled "What the [expletive] did you just say to me? What the > hell is going on?" and then attacked Butler. > Some of the witnesses closest to the scene thought Sem was just > punching Butler but it was not until they saw Butler grab his chest > and saw blood pouring from the wound that they realized he had been > stabbed. > Witnesses said that immediately after the attack, Butler looked very > confused, and then collapsed. > Sem appeared to be angry and excited and within seconds became very > calm and seemed to be smiling with a "vacant" look on his face and at > one point said, "I'm sorry, really sorry," according to those > witnesses. > One of the students held Sem from behind until police investigators > arrived. > Police say that when he was detained in the patrol car, Sem was > crying and then seconds later, he had a big smile on his face. > After being transported by emergency personnel to the Jefferson > County Hospital, Butler was unresponsive, not breathing on his own, > and died at 8:30 p.m. > Other psychiatric reports said that Sem had engaged in unusual > behaviors in the approximately six weeks that he had been on campus. > He would often engage in sudden outbursts of aggression which were > surprising and confusing to other students. > Judge E. Richard Meadows Monday accepted the conclusions from both > the prosecution and defense that Sem was insane when he stabbed > Butler and ordered Sem to be committed to the Oakdale Correctional > Facility for further treatment and evaluation. > > > > ©Ottumwa Courier 2005 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/15/05 11:59 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > > >> Somehow I missed this "course correction" idea earlier. It's a good > > >> map to think about the folks who made big leaps in development after > > >> leaving the TMO. (Yes, Peter I know... realization...) > > >> > > > > > > Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, > > > but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > > > > > Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and > > judgments, which holds them back. When the step away from the TMO, the > > distance, plus new experiences, enables them to unravel those > concepts and > > judgments. For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. > > Yup, what he said. Re-examination of concepts that have 'grooved' into > the mind, breaks them thar' boundries or allows the concepts to become > much subtler. But why does one need to "leave" the TMO in order to re-examine concepts and so on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the last 20 years, TM-Teachers in Norway have had a lot of good > ideas to develop the TMO in a good direction, to develop a healthy > administration and organisation. The vision has been to increase the > number of initiations and groups of sidhas, work together in a > democratic way in different projects. I think this has been happening > in other countries too. It has been useless, because the hierarchi in > the TMO is so rigid. It is almost impossible to come through with new > ideas, especial when it comes to administration and organisation. > Questioning that, you were looked upon as you were a 6-year old child > or mental retarded. Everything is decided from the International TMO, > where MMY is on the top. We have blamed the National Leaders for not > doing their jobs for years, but they have only been acting by the will > of the International TMO and/or MMY. Actually, it's a failure at many different levels... or is it? If you assume that the only reason for the existance of the current TM organization is to teach massive numbers of people as quickly aspossible, you're correct. If you assume that the existence of the TMO is to give people something to do until an infrastructure and a core of "enlightened teachers" to go along with that infrastructure is created, then maybe you're not correct. As I said before, many years ago, Maharishi came up with the idea of the Sidhi Parlement --a governing body for each local TM center comprised of citizen sidhas and meditators,that would handle the administrative side of running the TM center, while the TM teachers would concentrate on teaching. It didn't work becuase many TM teachers, at all levels, were control freaks who didn't want the loss of power. I personally had many ideas I thought were good and passed them up the line to various people. Every now and then and idea would be implemented immediately with good results. Other times, ideas were ignored or implemented half-assed. Occassionally, I would get calls from National asking for clarification about something, but for the most part, the ideas were ignored. Part of the problem is the TM teacher dynamic. MMY required all TM teachers to be willing to give over all control to him regarding the instruction of TM itself. Some TM teachers were able to maintain a dual-personality --rigid adherence to the rules concerning instruction, and flexability concerning everything else. Most TM teachers were just rigid personalities period. In order to get promoted within the TMorganization, you either had to be sucessful outside the organization inthe first place and catch MMY's eye directly, or were able to toe the party line well enough to fit into the rigid power structure that grew around him because most people couldn't be flexable in most things while being absolutely rigid in one thing. Since "purity of the teaching" is and always has been MMY's most important focus, he's been willing to tolerate less-than- creative individuals because they're the ones most likely to follow the "purity of the teaching" requirement, regardless. > Now, when I am the outside the TMO, I can in some way look at what > happened with me in the TMO from a distance. It was too much stress and > frustration and failed projects and I do not feel that was good for my > raise of consciousness. To be inside a rigid framework and not allowed > to use the creativity, felt like a great loss for me. And I think that > is one of the reasons that many TM-Teachers left the TMO, most of them > very disappointed, some of them with broken neck. The teaching part is > great - the knowledge is great - but the framework is wrong. In the > early days MMY was emphasising the importance to use the creativity. He > used to compare it with the monotonous work in fabrics - which was a > hindrance for creativity. The TM-Teachers from the early days was very > devoted to the knowledge and MMY and they was very creative and the > Movement blossomed. I do not know whose creativity is blossoming now, > because what is happening with malls and kings and rajas is far behind > my fantasy. It's a response to Chopra, I think. Chopra would never have stood for such a thing. Abu-Nader is quite competent, as far as I can tell, but he will never be able to set up a splinter organization based on his own personal popularity outside the TM organization the way CHopra could. > But my creativity is blossoming outside the TMO.I am more fullfilled > outside than inside the TMO. What is the purpose of the TMO? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send a
[FairfieldLife] Blanched almonds
http://www.theomnivore.com/June_16_2005_Newsletter.html ALMONDS PACK POTENT ANTIOXIDANT PUNCH Don't blanche your almonds! In a new study published in this month's Journal of Nutrition, USDA researchers have shown that the antioxidants in almond skins and the vitamin E inside almonds work together as a free radical-busting team. Almond skins are known to contain antioxidants called flavonoids, which are a large group of plant nutrients found in wine, tea, fruits and vegetables. Flavonoids can act as antioxidants, protecting our cells from oxidative damage. They also can protect LDL, the "bad" cholesterol, from being attacked by oxygen or oxidized (see my recent article on LDL cholesterol to find out more about the importance of oxidized LDL cholesterol: http://www.theomnivore.com/LDL_May_2005.html . Additionally, these plant nutrients are thought to protect the body from the effects of aging. "We have identified a unique combination of flavonoids in almonds," said Jeffrey Blumberg, Ph.D., senior scientist and director of the Antioxidants Research Laboratory at Tufts University. "Further blood tests demonstrated that eating almonds with their skins significantly increases both flavonoids and vitamin E in the body. This could have significant health implications, especially as people age." The team at Tufts was able to test the effect of flavonoids alone and then in combination with vitamin E. The results suggest that vitamin E and the flavonoids in almond skins work synergistically to prevent LDL cholesterol from being oxidized. In fact, together vitamin E and almond flavonoids were more than twice as effective as when they were administered separately. "Given that almonds are among the richest sources of vitamin E in the diet and also provide an array of flavonoids, more research should be done to understand the healthful interaction of these plant nutrients in the human body and the role of almonds in aging", says Dr. Blumberg. The USDA researchers are hardly the first to show that nutrients work most effectively when consumed along with other synergistic nutrients. Their findings emphasize the importance of eating a variety of fresh, natural foods and taking a full spectrum of nutrients when supplementing. They also provide further insight as to why fruit and vegetable-enhanced diets have produced clinically demonstrated reductions in cardiac and overall mortality, while many attempts using supplementation with isolated nutrients like vitamin E, vitamin C, and beta-carotene has so far failed to do so. Source: Journal of Nutrition, June 1, 2005 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
How much did they pay for it originally and who staked the money for it? Yes, *Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund* but which donors actually staked the money for the idea? Do they still think their money is going for 'peace-making projects'? -D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.globest.com/news/306_306/chicago/135246-1.html > > "Sage Hospitality Resources executive vice president Kenneth J. Geist > says his company has been attempting to acquire the hotel at 636 S. > Michigan Ave. for five years. The property has been vacant since 1999 > as plans by Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund to > convert the building into about 100 luxury condominiums have fizzled. > > > Although Maharishi Global Development Fund has sought a much higher > price, according to the city's department of planning and > development, Sage Hospitality Resources has struck a deal to buy the > 321,516-sf asset overlooking Grant Park for $22.3 million. Still, > city appraisals place the value of the hotel at $16 million to $19 > million. > > > When complete, the appraised value of the Blackstone Hotel--the name > will be retained under the Marriott Renaissance flag--is likely to be > less than the total cost of Sage Hospitality Resources' project, > department of planning and development officials say. The building, > which has hosted several US presidents, is in a "severe state of > disrepair," they add. McHugh Construction and architect Lucien > LaGrange have been hired for the work. (more at link) .. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow. If > > it > >> doesn't, the company goes down. > > > > Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO? > > If I enumerated them you'd dismiss them as unfounded rumors and we'd be > going in circles, so let's drop it. Uh-huh. Something other than the sex? Sounds to me like you've got a certain obsession, which you've been unable to drop. LoL... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
so typical of this fest37 "contribution", to show up like a snake and then go underground again, waiting for the next sting... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > When did you stop smiling? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, I was 19 in the orange hair picture and I'm 39 now. That's what > happened obviously. Der. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Llundrub > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me > > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ! What happened to that baby face picture with the orange > > hair. I feel like I'm looking at Aleister Crowly, and I'm not sure > > exactly what he looks like. Maybe I'll muscle up some courage and > > send you one of me. > > > > lurk > > > > --Funny, I was born on the same birthday as Aliester Crowley - Oct 12th. > > > > I had just got home from Home Depot and it was 96 degrees out. I do smile > alot. Most all the time in fact. OK, enough about me. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > - --- > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a surprise, all those wacky right to lifer' were wrong. > The autopsy of Terri Schiavo found no evidence that the severely brain-damaged woman > was strangled or abused and that no amount of therapy would have reversed her > condition, a medical examiner said Wednesday. > > She also was not abused by her husband, another favored ploy of the wack-pack fundies. > The medical examiner said his examination turned up "no sign of abuse or trauma" -- > allegations leveled by Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, against her > husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo. > > The editing of 50 hours or so of video tape to get the phony "responses" of Teri to > commands and her tracking eye movements are now seen as what they truly were, the lies > and political side show of the christian right wing nuts. She had less than half a brain and > no functioning visual cortex. > > A report from a neuropathologist who served as a consultant to the autopsy said Schiavo's > brain was "grossly abnormal and weighed only 615 grams [1.35 pounds]." Her brain was > profoundly atrophied," he said.The vision center of her brain was dead, he said. > "This damage was irreversible," said Dr. Thogmartin. "No amount of therapy or treatment > would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons." > > I can however, understand why these fundies want to keep the Terri's of the world alive. If > C.A.T. scans were taken of fundie church members brains they would look a little too > much like. I wonder how much of that brain weight loss was due to 19 days (or 11, whatever it was) without water. I guess that the brain would be the last to give up water but I don't know. Has it ever been studied? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.globest.com/news/306_306/chicago/135246-1.html > > "Sage Hospitality Resources executive vice president Kenneth J. Geist > says his company has been attempting to acquire the hotel at 636 S. > Michigan Ave. for five years. The property has been vacant since 1999 > as plans by Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund to > convert the building into about 100 luxury condominiums have fizzled. > > > Although Maharishi Global Development Fund has sought a much higher > price, according to the city's department of planning and > development, Sage Hospitality Resources has struck a deal to buy the > 321,516-sf asset overlooking Grant Park for $22.3 million. Still, > city appraisals place the value of the hotel at $16 million to $19 > million. > Bob, Do you know what the movement paid for the hotel? Looks like it's a good time to sell movement real estate in the US. Veda Land , Chicago and the few others that have been mentioned in the last 6 or 8 months. Looks like the property purchased in the last round of projects and fund raising is ripe to move. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
When did you stop smiling? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, I was 19 in the orange hair picture and I'm 39 now. That's what happened obviously. Der. > > - Original Message - > From: Llundrub > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me > > > > > Jesus Christ! What happened to that baby face picture with the orange > hair. I feel like I'm looking at Aleister Crowly, and I'm not sure > exactly what he looks like. Maybe I'll muscle up some courage and > send you one of me. > > lurk > > --Funny, I was born on the same birthday as Aliester Crowley - Oct 12th. > > I had just got home from Home Depot and it was 96 degrees out. I do smile alot. Most all the time in fact. OK, enough about me. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> on 6/15/05 5:35 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with> > mind. End of "I" and "me".> > > Fine, but it¹s a significant milestone one which people often seem to> reach when they¹ve been meditating for decades and allow themselvesto break> free of conditioned beliefs and judgments.Wow, now one only need to break free of free of conditioned beliefsand judgments? I did that 25 years ago when I left the TMO. Andregularly at other significant phased of my life. Little did I knowthat CC had dawned! This spiritual evolution stuff is getting easierand easier. That Primordial Consciousness, Pure Shiva, is exactly who you are all the time. The "you" that is reading this at this very minute is Infinite Being. The whole thing is hilarious. You're looking for exactly what you are in this very moment. Just Be.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] CC is "Baby Awakening"
Some responses below:akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". Tomis going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CCbeing "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as towhy there was nothing "baby" about it. But with Sat Yuga and all,maybe things are mellower. You yourself are even making what youprevious called "huge epistimological mistakes!" and laughing it away. That's your karma with Tom, not me! I call it "baby" because it is the first step in Consciousness awakening to itself. No more localization of consciousness. The localization produces the "I". There are still some pretty pernicious mental habits that the mind engages in (ala Suzanne Segal). Primarily it continues to seek a feeling of a limited self but nothing can be found. On a more serious note, do you singularly define CC as "Cessation ofidentification of consciousness with mind. End of 'I' and 'me'"? Doyou feel "No I" is both nexcessary and sufficient to label theexperience "CC"? The concepts that MMY uses to talk about CC are very effective in understanding the "experience" that has been present since that fine Spring day walking out of the dome. I don't think it is useful to label experiences like this as "being in" CC/GC/UC, etc.. But the concepts of these various states of consciousness are effective in deepening the understanding. Without relying on dogmatic kneejerks, it does seemsthere are additional "attributes" along with or beyond the experienceof "No I". Infinite flavors as it were. Though as you know I am no fan or labeling any experience or personwith such labels, it seems that if one does enjoy that exercise, theymay be jumping the gun a bit to "ring the bell of Eureka" of CC simplewhen experience "no I". But as people often remind me that I knownothing, I tend to agree. We don't know anything at all! A state of wonder when the mind stops and doesn't know.Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening atthe Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla isreally the same as triple jamaca almond machadamion nut ghee-fudgeblueberry mocha mintchip chavanaprash cherry saffron swirl with goldleaf topping? It's all ice cream! -Peter To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/15/05 5:35 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with > > mind. End of "I" and "me". > > > Fine, but it¹s a significant milestone one which people often seem to > reach when they¹ve been meditating for decades and allow themselves to break > free of conditioned beliefs and judgments. Wow, now one only need to break free of free of conditioned beliefs and judgments? I did that 25 years ago when I left the TMO. And regularly at other significant phased of my life. Little did I know that CC had dawned! This spiritual evolution stuff is getting easier and easier. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] CC is "Baby Awakening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". Tom is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as to why there was nothing "baby" about it. But with Sat Yuga and all, maybe things are mellower. You yourself are even making what you previous called "huge epistimological mistakes!" and laughing it away. On a more serious note, do you singularly define CC as "Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of 'I' and 'me'"? Do you feel "No I" is both nexcessary and sufficient to label the experience "CC"? Without relying on dogmatic kneejerks, it does seems there are additional "attributes" along with or beyond the experience of "No I". Though as you know I am no fan or labeling any experience or person with such labels, it seems that if one does enjoy that exercise, they may be jumping the gun a bit to "ring the bell of Eureka" of CC simple when experience "no I". But as people often remind me that I know nothing, I tend to agree. Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening at the Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla is really the same as triple jamaca almond machadamion nut ghee-fudge blueberry mocha mintchip chavanaprash cherry saffron swirl with gold leaf topping? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Terri Schiavo
What a surprise, all those wacky right to lifer' were wrong. The autopsy of Terri Schiavo found no evidence that the severely brain-damaged woman was strangled or abused and that no amount of therapy would have reversed her condition, a medical examiner said Wednesday. She also was not abused by her husband, another favored ploy of the wack-pack fundies. The medical examiner said his examination turned up "no sign of abuse or trauma" -- allegations leveled by Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, against her husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo. The editing of 50 hours or so of video tape to get the phony "responses" of Teri to commands and her tracking eye movements are now seen as what they truly were, the lies and political side show of the christian right wing nuts. She had less than half a brain and no functioning visual cortex. A report from a neuropathologist who served as a consultant to the autopsy said Schiavo's brain was "grossly abnormal and weighed only 615 grams [1.35 pounds]." Her brain was profoundly atrophied," he said.The vision center of her brain was dead, he said. "This damage was irreversible," said Dr. Thogmartin. "No amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons." I can however, understand why these fundies want to keep the Terri's of the world alive. If C.A.T. scans were taken of fundie church members brains they would look a little too much like. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Trinity
Hey I'm sorry Guy, I thought you were John Manning. Not sure where I got that idea from. Cool pic in the members section. Peace. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me
BTW, I was 19 in the orange hair picture and I'm 39 now. That's what happened obviously. Der. - Original Message - From: Llundrub To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me Jesus Christ! What happened to that baby face picture with the orange hair. I feel like I'm looking at Aleister Crowly, and I'm not sure exactly what he looks like. Maybe I'll muscle up some courage and send you one of me.lurk--Funny, I was born on the same birthday as Aliester Crowley - Oct 12th. I had just got home from Home Depot and it was 96 degrees out. I do smile alot. Most all the time in fact. OK, enough about me. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me
Jesus Christ! What happened to that baby face picture with the orange hair. I feel like I'm looking at Aleister Crowly, and I'm not sure exactly what he looks like. Maybe I'll muscle up some courage and send you one of me.lurk--Funny, I was born on the same birthday as Aliester Crowley - Oct 12th. I had just got home from Home Depot and it was 96 degrees out. I do smile alot. Most all the time in fact. OK, enough about me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > http://members.cox.net/llundrub/dontlooknow/ > > Yowza! Your face is as intense as your online persona! Jesus Christ! What happened to that baby face picture with the orange hair. I feel like I'm looking at Aleister Crowly, and I'm not sure exactly what he looks like. Maybe I'll muscle up some courage and send you one of me. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://members.cox.net/llundrub/dontlooknow/ > > you look like bodhisattva. > Did I get it right, your ceiling has green flowers? > > ---Yes, each room is a different color, and the kitchen has a tree painted in it. I used to have big murals of the Devas on my temple walls. Like this > > > > But then I turned Buddhist. At one point I was going to paint the whole 722 deity Kalachakra mandala in half of the house. I might still paint some of it if I don't find a full time job soon. Thanks >for the Bodhisattva comment. Thats nice. > Lups probably popped the head off his talking Jesus doll when you >said that. https://www.one2believe.com/default4.asp :) every Lup has his own loop. > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel
boby more money goes to India ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.globest.com/news/306_306/chicago/135246-1.html > > "Sage Hospitality Resources executive vice president Kenneth J. Geist > says his company has been attempting to acquire the hotel at 636 S. > Michigan Ave. for five years. The property has been vacant since 1999 > as plans by Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund to > convert the building into about 100 luxury condominiums have fizzled. > > > Although Maharishi Global Development Fund has sought a much higher > price, according to the city's department of planning and > development, Sage Hospitality Resources has struck a deal to buy the > 321,516-sf asset overlooking Grant Park for $22.3 million. Still, > city appraisals place the value of the hotel at $16 million to $19 > million. > > > When complete, the appraised value of the Blackstone Hotel--the name > will be retained under the Marriott Renaissance flag--is likely to be > less than the total cost of Sage Hospitality Resources' project, > department of planning and development officials say. The building, > which has hosted several US presidents, is in a "severe state of > disrepair," they add. McHugh Construction and architect Lucien > LaGrange have been hired for the work. (more at link) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics on 6/15/05 5:35 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". Fine, but it’s a significant milestone – one which people often seem to reach when they’ve been meditating for decades and allow themselves to break free of conditioned beliefs and judgments. Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, >>> but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... >>> >> Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and >> judgments, which holds them back. > > For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. > > What is your definition of "awakening" ? Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great pet photos. Has it helped any of you to get the nerve up to post > one of yourself? Now Doc, as I'm not enlightened yet, I know I won't > be able "see" yours anyway as there is no self and all that kind of > thing. But humor me. Let's do an experiment and see who can see and > find out what they do see. After all, it's not all bad. Someone said > my wife had the most beautiful chakras they'd ever seen (Uh, come to > think about it - that's not dirty is it?). Anyway, come out come out > where ever you are. > Jeff I'd like to post it and then remove it, but I don't think it works that way. I'll send it to you on the side to jeffcandace... lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Porno Parable (no fear?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One shouldn't tell their wife NO. Rather she should tell us .NOW > > lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
His crack smoking and 'ho running.sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO?To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>> Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop,>>> but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free...>>> >> Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and>> judgments, which holds them back.> > For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening.> > What is your definition of "awakening" ?Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] David Todt will clear stadium seats near mens dome
MUM Summer Projects Include Removal of Stadium Seats An outside dining area, removal of the remaining stadium seats, and other construction projects are planned for this summer. According to project manager David Todt, removal of the hill and old stadium seats east of the playing field will provide a more attractive environment and allow the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome and new men's residence halls to be more in accord with principles of Maharishi Sthåpatya Veda(SM) design by giving more exposure to the morning sun. The earth removed from the site will be used in a new housing development in Utopia Park. The playing field has been reworked and seeded, and is expected to be ready for use in the fall of 2006. In the meantime, Bobby Warren Field north of campus is being used for student athletic activities such as soccer. Also planned is a fenced-in area on the west side of the Student Union patio so students can have access to outside dining without having to go all the way around the north end of the building. In other construction news, the new locker rooms in the Recreation Center are now finished, with lockers, showers, and attractive linoleum flooring. Also, two more student houses have been completed and are now occupied. Future plans include repair of campus roads and sidewalks, and construction of bike paths that will connect the residence halls with the major buildings. source: The Review, Vol. 20, #18, June 15, 2005 Copyright 2005, Maharishi University of Management To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
--You're obviously not a Libra. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO > > > and appreciate it again. > > > I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides > > > of everything at a glance. I therefore > > > have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. > > > > Do you think your point of view(s) are influenced by > > the various recreational psychotropic chemicals floating > > around your brain and their decay rates??? > > It's the psychotropic toads that people were talking > about a day or two ago. Has he been taking them in > suppository form again? > Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And this https://www.one2believe.com/default4.asp > great find! don't quite get the rob halford/judas priest type beard on jesus though, the ultra gloss pink lipstick on mary, or the mullet 'do on david...oh well, its been awhile since I've been to church... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, >>> but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... >>> >> Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and >> judgments, which holds them back. > > For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. > > What is your definition of "awakening" ? Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
PS: could you tone down that Bhuddist preaching slightly ?Thank you in advance !--Why? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
- Original Message - From: easyone200 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO and appreciate it again. I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides of everything at a glance. I therefore have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. Do you think your point of view(s) are influenced by the various recreational psychotropic chemicals floating around your brain and their decay rates???-Actually no. I have always thought way too much. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] TMO sells Chicago hotel
http://www.globest.com/news/306_306/chicago/135246-1.html "Sage Hospitality Resources executive vice president Kenneth J. Geist says his company has been attempting to acquire the hotel at 636 S. Michigan Ave. for five years. The property has been vacant since 1999 as plans by Tennessee-based Maharishi Global Development Fund to convert the building into about 100 luxury condominiums have fizzled. Although Maharishi Global Development Fund has sought a much higher price, according to the city's department of planning and development, Sage Hospitality Resources has struck a deal to buy the 321,516-sf asset overlooking Grant Park for $22.3 million. Still, city appraisals place the value of the hotel at $16 million to $19 million. When complete, the appraised value of the Blackstone Hotel--the name will be retained under the Marriott Renaissance flag--is likely to be less than the total cost of Sage Hospitality Resources' project, department of planning and development officials say. The building, which has hosted several US presidents, is in a "severe state of disrepair," they add. McHugh Construction and architect Lucien LaGrange have been hired for the work. (more at link) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] account of MUM dining hall murder
http://www.ottumwacourier.com/site/news.cfm?brd=2575 By:ERIKA RICHARDS, Courier correspondent 06/15/2005 FAIRFIELD - Days and hours before attacking Levi Butler last year in the campus dining hall, Maharishi University of Management classmates had observed "unusual behavior" by Shuvender Sem, who was found not guilty Monday in the first-degree murder death of Butler by reason of insanity. More details around the death of the MUM student last year became available this week after the court released its written verdict along with findings of fact in the case. According to court documents, Butler and John Killian, who also was attacked by Sem earlier in the day of March 1, 2004, were acquaintances of Sem while Killian shared a dormitory with his attacker. Apparently, there was no prior dispute or disagreement between either Killian or Butler and Sem and court documents reveal that there appeared to be no warning or provocation at the time of the fatal attack against Butler. At about 2 p.m. that day, while attending an afternoon class at the university, Sem assaulted Killian by stabbing him in the jaw with a ballpoint pen, resulting in the later charge of assault to commit serious injury. Following the attack on Killian, Sem's professors removed him from class and escorted him to an apartment for closer observation. At about 6:40 p.m., without anyone's knowledge, Sem left the apartment with a kitchen paring knife and went to the dining hall. He was found eating dinner with other students. Butler was eating his evening meal with another group of students a few tables away from Sem. Near the end of the meal, Sem stood up and moved to a seat next to Butler. Shortly thereafter, and while Butler was visiting with Sem, Sem stood up and yelled "What the [expletive] did you just say to me? What the hell is going on?" and then attacked Butler. Some of the witnesses closest to the scene thought Sem was just punching Butler but it was not until they saw Butler grab his chest and saw blood pouring from the wound that they realized he had been stabbed. Witnesses said that immediately after the attack, Butler looked very confused, and then collapsed. Sem appeared to be angry and excited and within seconds became very calm and seemed to be smiling with a "vacant" look on his face and at one point said, "I'm sorry, really sorry," according to those witnesses. One of the students held Sem from behind until police investigators arrived. Police say that when he was detained in the patrol car, Sem was crying and then seconds later, he had a big smile on his face. After being transported by emergency personnel to the Jefferson County Hospital, Butler was unresponsive, not breathing on his own, and died at 8:30 p.m. Other psychiatric reports said that Sem had engaged in unusual behaviors in the approximately six weeks that he had been on campus. He would often engage in sudden outbursts of aggression which were surprising and confusing to other students. Judge E. Richard Meadows Monday accepted the conclusions from both the prosecution and defense that Sem was insane when he stabbed Butler and ordered Sem to be committed to the Oakdale Correctional Facility for further treatment and evaluation. ©Ottumwa Courier 2005 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO > > and appreciate it again. > > I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides > > of everything at a glance. I therefore > > have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. > > Do you think your point of view(s) are influenced by > the various recreational psychotropic chemicals floating > around your brain and their decay rates??? It's the psychotropic toads that people were talking about a day or two ago. Has he been taking them in suppository form again? Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jun 15, 2005, at 12:57 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > >>> The story of Anoop CHandola hearing from the Shankaracharya of > > > the > > >>> North that MMY was his first choice to be his sucessor is > > >> Chandola's > > >>> own story. > > >> > > >> And completely irrelevant to reality. :-) > > > > > > Not at all. It shows that MMY had very high standing within his > own > > > spiritual tradition, so speculations that he was suffering from a > > > case of spiritual sour grapes aren't well-founded. Had he been of > a > > > different caste, he WOULD have been Shankaracharya of the North. > > > > Get a grip dude, he's hardly qualified > Chuckle. You're an idiot. Pure and simple. Spot on ! The readers of this forum has long known this fact about Vaj. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, that was my class then. I knew I recognized you. Well Rudra Joe; you do not look half as weird in the pictures as you appear on this forum. All good to you ! :-) PS: could you tone down that Bhuddist preaching slightly ? Thank you in advance ! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO and > appreciate it again. I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides of everything at a glance. I therefore have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. Do you think your point of view(s) are influenced by the various recreational psychotropic chemicals floating around your brain and their decay rates??? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://members.cox.net/llundrub/dontlooknow/ you look like bodhisattva. Did I get it right, your ceiling has green flowers? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > http://members.cox.net/llundrub/dontlooknow/ > > Yowza! Your face is as intense as your online persona! He was 'spoofen', I'll bet he smiles more than that ;-) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
> > Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, > > but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > > > Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and > judgments, which holds them back. For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. What is your definition of "awakening" ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/15/05 11:59 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Somehow I missed this "course correction" idea earlier. It's a good > >> map to think about the folks who made big leaps in development after > >> leaving the TMO. (Yes, Peter I know... realization...) > >> > > > > Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, > > but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > > > Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and > judgments, which holds them back. When the step away from the TMO, the > distance, plus new experiences, enables them to unravel those concepts and > judgments. For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. Yup, what he said. Re-examination of concepts that have 'grooved' into the mind, breaks them thar' boundries or allows the concepts to become much subtler. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
For the last 20 years, TM-Teachers in Norway have had a lot of good ideas to develop the TMO in a good direction, to develop a healthy administration and organisation. The vision has been to increase the number of initiations and groups of sidhas, work together in a democratic way in different projects. I think this has been happening in other countries too. It has been useless, because the hierarchi in the TMO is so rigid. It is almost impossible to come through with new ideas, especial when it comes to administration and organisation. Questioning that, you were looked upon as you were a 6-year old child or mental retarded. Everything is decided from the International TMO, where MMY is on the top. We have blamed the National Leaders for not doing their jobs for years, but they have only been acting by the will of the International TMO and/or MMY. Now, when I am the outside the TMO, I can in some way look at what happened with me in the TMO from a distance. It was too much stress and frustration and failed projects and I do not feel that was good for my raise of consciousness. To be inside a rigid framework and not allowed to use the creativity, felt like a great loss for me. And I think that is one of the reasons that many TM-Teachers left the TMO, most of them very disappointed, some of them with broken neck. The teaching part is great - the knowledge is great - but the framework is wrong. In the early days MMY was emphasising the importance to use the creativity. He used to compare it with the monotonous work in fabrics - which was a hindrance for creativity. The TM-Teachers from the early days was very devoted to the knowledge and MMY and they was very creative and the Movement blossomed. I do not know whose creativity is blossoming now, because what is happening with malls and kings and rajas is far behind my fantasy. But my creativity is blossoming outside the TMO.I am more fullfilled outside than inside the TMO. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/15/05 12:36 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > How many times does personal behavior become subject to debate in a > > > boardroom of a company unless its making national headlines? Please > > > refer me to the headlines that would warrant this for the TMO. > > > > If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow. If > it > > doesn't, the company goes down. > > Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not Spiritual to discriminate! Was: MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05
> > , "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > Or not. Sometimes denial can be a GOOD thing. > > > > TurquoiseB > > > wrote: > > > > > > If what you want out of life is to live in denial, > > > > I guess so. Some have different aspirations. > > > > "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > You have no idea what I meant by that statement. > > > > People with AIDS, cancer, and other terminal illnesses who take a "I > don't care what happens to others, *I* am going to get well" stance, > are far more likely to live longer and healthier than those who "face > the truth." > OK. I just don't get that as denial, not accepting expected consequences, but creating your own reality. Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow. If > it >> doesn't, the company goes down. > > Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO? If I enumerated them you'd dismiss them as unfounded rumors and we'd be going in circles, so let's drop it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/15/05 11:59 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Somehow I missed this "course correction" idea earlier. It's a good > >> map to think about the folks who made big leaps in development after > >> leaving the TMO. (Yes, Peter I know... realization...) > >> > > > > Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, > > but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > > > Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and > judgments, which holds them back. When the step away from the TMO, the > distance, plus new experiences, enables them to unravel those concepts and > judgments. For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. Or perhaps, the desire to step away was a sign that they were awakening? Or perhaps, their awakening isn't really? Lots of possibilities here. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2005, at 12:57 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >>> The story of Anoop CHandola hearing from the Shankaracharya of > > the > >>> North that MMY was his first choice to be his sucessor is > >> Chandola's > >>> own story. > >> > >> And completely irrelevant to reality. :-) > > > > Not at all. It shows that MMY had very high standing within his own > > spiritual tradition, so speculations that he was suffering from a > > case of spiritual sour grapes aren't well-founded. Had he been of a > > different caste, he WOULD have been Shankaracharya of the North. > > Get a grip dude, he's hardly qualified--other than the fact he could > BUY the job. Chuckle. You're an idiot. Pure and simple. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not Spiritual to discriminate! Was: MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > , "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > Or not. Sometimes denial can be a GOOD thing. > > TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > > If what you want out of life is to live in denial, > > > I guess so. Some have different aspirations. > > "sparaig" wrote: > > > > You have no idea what I meant by that statement. > > Pray enlighten us then, old chap. People with AIDS, cancer, and other terminal illnesses who take a "I don't care what happens to others, *I* am going to get well" stance, are far more likely to live longer and healthier than those who "face the truth." Likewise with people who are "over the hill" and start something new, etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
Interesting talk by Ghandi (sounds very SRMish) http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audiointerviews/realmedia/gandhim/gandhim 1.ram In the same series - Maharishi 1969, handling ackward interviewer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audiointerviews/profilepages/maharishi1.s html > > - Original Message - > > From: Robert Gimbel > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:17 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Enlightened People in Past > History...tried to bring enlightenment. > > > > > > Every enlightened person, who had the desire to teach, tried in > the > > past to bring enlightenment to all who followed. > > It is obvious to me that this has been an extremely difficult > task; as > > can be observed by history. > > It would be great, if Maharishi, could come up with a "better" > plan to > > bring enlightenment to more people and make life on earth better > for > > everyone. > > The thing is, it's not so easy to even describe what enlightenment > is; > > let alone create a desire for inner growth in a culture so > obsessed > > with outer results. > > I just think that lot's of people could start TM if the price were > > negligable or free; but like in the Merv days, few people who > started > > then out of curiousity continued to practice. > > I think Maharishi is right, to gain a group who is devoted to this > > knowledge; for the rest the desire for enlightenment is not there. > > You can lead a horse to water... > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > -- - > - > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > > Some of the stories *are* scripted, Lawson. They > > are told to prospective teachers on TTC and repeated > > almost verbatim, as if they were catechism, once they > > become teachers. One rather important example pops > > to mind -- the story of Trotaka. It's a sweet story > > and all, but if you analyze its intent, it is to > > praise the value of always mindlessly doing exactly > > what the teacher says, and how that's better than > > other paths. > > > > The "individual stories" that other people tell, from > > their own experience, are just that, individual stories. > > They "mean" whatever they mean to the storyteller. My > > point is simply that such stories are often used as > > thought-stoppers, the way a couple of them have been > > used here lately. Sorta like, "Well listen to *this* > > story...are you not convinced that Maharishi is > > get after hearing that one?" :-) > > > > Unc > > > > What I got from the Trotaka story was to follow the heart, not what > somebody tells you to do or what you think they expect you to do. > Trotaka (in the story I heard) was not into the intellectual stuff but > just felt so much love and devotion to the Master, he wanted to help him > in simple ways while enjoying his Bliss (doing laundry, fetching water, > cooking) while the "greater" students sat around funkafizing over > scripture all day long. Trotaka was looked down upon by the others but > in the end, he got "the prize". ANd of course,the Buddhist patriarch who started out as the cook comes to mind, not for his devotion, but for his simipleness of expression To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/15/05 12:36 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How many times does personal behavior become subject to debate in a > > boardroom of a company unless its making national headlines? Please > > refer me to the headlines that would warrant this for the TMO. > > If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow. If it > doesn't, the company goes down. Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not Spiritual to discriminate! Was: MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Ever notice that quite a few people have made their most signifcant > > progress after leaving Maharishi - Amber Terrel, Susan Segal, all > the > > beakaway folks, SSRS etc... Maybe it's just growing up. Son becomes > a > > father, Student becomes a teacher. It happens. > > And sadly, sometimes it happens only *by* leaving > the teacher. One of the trends I've noticed in the > spiritual smorgasbord, especially among the teachers > who are more charismatic and popular, is that while > the whole professed goal of the trip is for students > to realize enlightenment, no student is ever allowed > to realize enlightenment. > > That is, when someone starts having "good experiences" > and talks about them openly, the student is often put > down by the teacher and/or shunned. The student is > described as delusional. Some are actually kicked out > of organizations for starting to experience what the > people in the organization claim that everyone wants > to experience. Go figure. > Of course, MMY said from the getgo that experiences aren't important, at least in general, and taht sharing experiences makes everyone else either envious, confused or feeling in competition. That always made sense to me, but I guess if you disagree with his entire way of looking at things, you disagree with these points as well... > I'm *not* talking just about the TMO here, although > we've certainly seen that phenomenon there. I'm say- > ing that one can see the same phenomenon in *many* > different spiritual trips. I find it equally sad in > all of them. It's like it becomes more important for > the teacher to maintain the teacher-student disparity > than anything else. And when these situations arise, > you learn very quickly which teachers have *never* > believed that their students would reach their level, > and are quite threatened when one of them does. It's > a real puzzler... > Which level has MMY reached, and how has he discouraged others from reaching it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
Well, that was my class then. I knew I recognized you. - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>wrote:> Weren't you in class of 86 with Stanley Robinson, et all?I went to MIU starting in January 1983 and did the Core Courses andone semester of CompSci before dropping out.AlexTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
Nothing like the sign of dualism to figure it out. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment. ---I have the great fortune of being a Libra in this chaotic time; Balancing here, balancing there. here, there, and everywhere...In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO and appreciate it again. I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides of everything at a glance. I therefore have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. > > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Gimbel > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:17 PM> Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.> > > Every enlightened person, who had the desire to teach, tried in the > past to bring enlightenment to all who followed. > It is obvious to me that this has been an extremely difficult task; as > can be observed by history. > It would be great, if Maharishi, could come up with a "better" plan to > bring enlightenment to more people and make life on earth better for > everyone.> The thing is, it's not so easy to even describe what enlightenment is; > let alone create a desire for inner growth in a culture so obsessed > with outer results.> I just think that lot's of people could start TM if the price were > negligable or free; but like in the Merv days, few people who started > then out of curiousity continued to practice.> I think Maharishi is right, to gain a group who is devoted to this > knowledge; for the rest the desire for enlightenment is not there.> You can lead a horse to water...> > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me
You should see me when I'm cooking. - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>wrote:> http://members.cox.net/llundrub/dontlooknow/Yowza! Your face is as intense as your online persona!To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weren't you in class of 86 with Stanley Robinson, et all? I went to MIU starting in January 1983 and did the Core Courses and one semester of CompSci before dropping out. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] SFGate: 10-hour wait, 3-second hug/Motherly guru draws throngs of seekers to East Bay temple
Rick Archer wrote: >Wednesday, June 15, 2005 (SF Chronicle) >10-hour wait, 3-second hug/Motherly guru draws throngs of seekers to East >Bay temple >Don Lattin, Chronicle Religion Writer > > > Thousands of followers of India's "hugging saint" have come during the >past week to a barn-like temple tucked away in the East Bay hills, looking >for a little love. > "People wait 10 hours for a three-second hug," said Bill Gasko, 65, a >physicist from Massachusetts who also goes by "Suchindra." > They are here to see Amma, a 51-year-old woman from a poor fishing >village >in southern India who presides over a network of schools, hospitals, soup >kitchens, orphanages and shrines covered with photos of her own smiling >face. > Many Amma devotees once were devotees of Indian gurus with checkered >pasts >-- including the late Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and the late Swami Muktananda >Paramahansa. > Gasko used to follow Amrit Desai, a yoga teacher disgraced in a sex >scandal at the Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health in Lenox, Mass. > "Things got out of balance with all that male energy," Gasko said. "It's >time for women teachers." > Another longtime Amma follower at the East Bay temple, which is hidden >away in the woods between Castro Valley and San Ramon, Cathi Schmidt, 56, >was a devotee of Muktananda from 1973 until he "left his body" in 1982. >Muktananda opened dozens of meditation centers in North America during the >1970s and attracted some 20,000 devotees. > Muktananda was known as "the guru's guru" and "swami of the stars," but >his reputation was tainted posthumously by a 1983 expose charging that he >had seduced young girls, stashed funds in a Swiss bank account and >privately exhibited a sometimes violent, vindictive temperament. > "There were lots of rumors going around toward the end, but we had no >firsthand experience of that," Schmidt said. > Her years with Muktananda, she said, were an effort to recreate mystical >states she had experienced by taking psychedelic drugs. > "I thought, 'Hey, if my mind can feel unity with all of creation under a >mind-altering drug, my mind should be able to do that without taking >anything, ' " she said. > While Muktananda had "a very powerful electric energy," Schmidt said he >was surrounded by people who were "not always kind and gentle." > Amma, on the other hand, "comes from a state of infinite compassion." > "The difference between Muktananda and Amma is the difference between a >father and a mother," said Schmidt. "Your father is the authority figure >who walks off and goes to his den. Mother is always right there." > Willa Bepler, 27, was raised amid followers of Rajneesh, an irreverent >Indian philosopher who attracted thousands of Westerners with a blend of >Eastern mysticism and Western hedonism. > Rajneesh was known as the "free-sex guru" and famous for his fleet of >Rolls-Royces. His communal city in central Oregon collapsed in 1985 after >revelations of bizarre poisoning plots and widespread wiretapping. > Rajneesh pleaded guilty to charges of immigration fraud, was deported to >India and died there 1990. > Bepler said she found the Rajneesh scene "creepy." > "There were lots of open sexual experiences and lots of chaos," she said. >"Boundaries were crossed." > Bepler, who met Amma two years ago in India, said she couldn't compare >her >current spiritual teacher with the guru she grew up with. > "To me, you can't compare Amma to anyone else on the planet," she said. >"This community is very safe. It's about service." > Amma does not dwell on the scandals involving East-meets-West gurus who >came before her. > "There is a natural tendency for people to experiment," the guru said. >"They go to one spiritual master and then go to another, but ultimately >they have to come to a point where the real search begins. That point has >come." > "People are looking for love," she said. "There is so much dryness in >society today. Only feminine energy alone can bring that love and >compassion and create a balance between action and love." > Amma sat at the front of her temple in white robes, hugging devotees as >she answered questions through an interpreter in Malayalam, her native >tongue. > Many of the disciples left in tears, carrying away a few flower petals or >Hershey chocolate kisses she had pressed into their hands. > They exited through the Amma gift shop, where they could buy Amma books, >Amma photos, Amma T-shirts and other Amma paraphernalia. > Many followers see Amma as an avatar, a deity come to Earth. > Her own literature calls her "a phenomenon that happens once in 1,000 >years." > Gasko, who was raised a Catholic, said Amma was "like Christ becoming a >reality." > Amma was a bit more modest. > "I don't have any claims," she said, giggling. "I have offered myself to >society. Once you attain the highest state of consciousness, you become an >offering to the world. In the absence of ego, you can'
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
---I have the great fortune of being a Libra in this chaotic time; Balancing here, balancing there. here, there, and everywhere... In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO and appreciate it again. I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides of everything at a glance. I therefore have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. > > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Gimbel > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:17 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment. > > > Every enlightened person, who had the desire to teach, tried in the > past to bring enlightenment to all who followed. > It is obvious to me that this has been an extremely difficult task; as > can be observed by history. > It would be great, if Maharishi, could come up with a "better" plan to > bring enlightenment to more people and make life on earth better for > everyone. > The thing is, it's not so easy to even describe what enlightenment is; > let alone create a desire for inner growth in a culture so obsessed > with outer results. > I just think that lot's of people could start TM if the price were > negligable or free; but like in the Merv days, few people who started > then out of curiousity continued to practice. > I think Maharishi is right, to gain a group who is devoted to this > knowledge; for the rest the desire for enlightenment is not there. > You can lead a horse to water... > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > --- - > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://members.cox.net/llundrub/dontlooknow/ Yowza! Your face is as intense as your online persona! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO and appreciate it again. I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides of everything at a glance. I therefore have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment. Every enlightened person, who had the desire to teach, tried in the past to bring enlightenment to all who followed. It is obvious to me that this has been an extremely difficult task; as can be observed by history. It would be great, if Maharishi, could come up with a "better" plan to bring enlightenment to more people and make life on earth better for everyone.The thing is, it's not so easy to even describe what enlightenment is; let alone create a desire for inner growth in a culture so obsessed with outer results.I just think that lot's of people could start TM if the price were negligable or free; but like in the Merv days, few people who started then out of curiousity continued to practice.I think Maharishi is right, to gain a group who is devoted to this knowledge; for the rest the desire for enlightenment is not there.You can lead a horse to water...To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
Weren't you in class of 86 with Stanley Robinson, et all? - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> > > I've had a head shot in my Yahoo profile all along, but> > you can see> > even more of me here:> > > > http://www.geocities.com/j_alexander_stanley/> > > > Alex> > Thanks Alex, but a little more info than I was "looking" forHey, just be thankful that shot was taken *after* I lost thirtypounds.> (my wife liked it though - especially you as a little boy). That's my absolute fave childhood shot. It's a pretty faded photo,but the software that came with my scanner has an automatic colorcorrection utility for faded photos, and it works great.> How come we all look so sweet and innocent when > we're little? You think that pic of me at age four is sweet and innocent? I look atthat image, and I see the same dark and brooding qualities I stillhave as an adult.> Isn't it the sweet innocence of Maharishi that first> charmed us all?In my case, no. I learned TM because my brother came back from TTC in1974 and said I should learn TM. So, I did. I'm not particularlydrawn to MMY, and his teachings do not resonate with me.AlexTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Me
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/15/05 11:59 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Somehow I missed this "course correction" idea earlier. It's a good >> map to think about the folks who made big leaps in development after >> leaving the TMO. (Yes, Peter I know... realization...) >> > > Of course, they didn't need to "leave the TMO" in order to develop, > but apparently you like to believe this, so feel free... > Not essential for everyone, but some get very bound up in concepts and judgments, which holds them back. When the step away from the TMO, the distance, plus new experiences, enables them to unravel those concepts and judgments. For some, this is all that's needed to trigger awakening. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can some of you assholes
H. I really wish Namkhai Norbu would move here. - Original Message - From: Jeff Fischer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can some of you assholes --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> Move to New Orleans? No, I can't do that, but there is a peace palace here in Austin.I would have responded sooner, but just looked at the headline for this thread and realized you were talking to me. Sorry, I'll try to be more observant in the future.JeffTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
Every enlightened person, who had the desire to teach, tried in the past to bring enlightenment to all who followed. It is obvious to me that this has been an extremely difficult task; as can be observed by history. It would be great, if Maharishi, could come up with a "better" plan to bring enlightenment to more people and make life on earth better for everyone. The thing is, it's not so easy to even describe what enlightenment is; let alone create a desire for inner growth in a culture so obsessed with outer results. I just think that lot's of people could start TM if the price were negligable or free; but like in the Merv days, few people who started then out of curiousity continued to practice. I think Maharishi is right, to gain a group who is devoted to this knowledge; for the rest the desire for enlightenment is not there. You can lead a horse to water... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've had a head shot in my Yahoo profile all along, but > > you can see > > even more of me here: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/j_alexander_stanley/ > > > > Alex > > Thanks Alex, but a little more info than I was "looking" for Hey, just be thankful that shot was taken *after* I lost thirty pounds. > (my wife liked it though - especially you as a little boy). That's my absolute fave childhood shot. It's a pretty faded photo, but the software that came with my scanner has an automatic color correction utility for faded photos, and it works great. > How come we all look so sweet and innocent when > we're little? You think that pic of me at age four is sweet and innocent? I look at that image, and I see the same dark and brooding qualities I still have as an adult. > Isn't it the sweet innocence of Maharishi that first > charmed us all? In my case, no. I learned TM because my brother came back from TTC in 1974 and said I should learn TM. So, I did. I'm not particularly drawn to MMY, and his teachings do not resonate with me. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great pet photos. Has it helped any of you to get the nerve > > up to post one of yourself? > > I've had a head shot in my Yahoo profile all along, but you can see > even more of me here: > > http://www.geocities.com/j_alexander_stanley/ > > Alex I've seen you around, Alex. Although you were dressed a little differently! JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures
Oh hey, I know you. - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pictures --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> Great pet photos. Has it helped any of you to get the nerve> up to post one of yourself? I've had a head shot in my Yahoo profile all along, but you can seeeven more of me here:http://www.geocities.com/j_alexander_stanley/AlexTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
