Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Peter
Candace is quite "the chick" isn't she? We were really
good friends back in the day. Have you ever met her
crazy mom?

--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When I was back in FF a few years ago for a year, I
> saw and interacted
> a bunch with Candace, an old friend from the first
> year of MIU in FF,
> and she is funny as always. One day at lunch in
> town, Rodgers finally
> made her "calm down" as her riffing with me was
> insistent and
> aggressive. Candace found herself a riot and we all
> wanted her to stop!
> KH
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Every see Rodgers wife, Candace around or her
> sister
> > Lindsey?
> > 
> > --- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Good results sure I would get them too at any PK
> > > clinic after 23 
> > > days but I have to say the people I know that
> have
> > > gone with illness 
> > > or weight issues or bone density or Parkinsons
> feel
> > > better but no 
> > > real cure so to speak of but hey if they feel
> better
> > > I say go for it.
> > > Personally I could not make that trip and would
> sick
> > > just from that 
> > > alone and would be very concerned about India as
> I
> > > am delicate so 
> > > guess it all depends on how you feel about doing
> PK
> > > in India.
> > > As far as Raju and prices guess for most it is
> still
> > > cheaper than 
> > > USA and if MMY has not figured that out yet or
> his
> > > TMO puppets then 
> > > they will soon learn as the Raj is going
> downhill
> > > and fast. It still 
> > > have people come a girl was just there from
> France
> > > for 21 days a 
> > > young wealthy girl that Rodgers sucked up to as
> > > usual. Guess he is 
> > > back for a bit. I was over there for lunch and
> got
> > > the scoop. Food 
> > > was not great but PK meal is good. They had 5
> that
> > > week and claimed 
> > > to have 12 the week before but I hear in general
> > > that enrollment is 
> > > consistently low and Jean Tobin does not manage
> > > will. Ofcourse her 
> > > hands are probably tied with the TMO but
> whatever.
> > > It is only a 
> > > matter of time before that closes the lower
> school
> > > and MUM. They 
> > > cant go pass another few years. The school
> > > especially as the Frist 
> > > and Second graders are now few to nil and the 3
> and
> > > 4 are combined 
> > > and next year 3 classes will combine and they
> could
> > > not accept fist 
> > > and second graders if they are not enough. guess
> > > that will all be 
> > > dealt with late next summer as the TMO always
> just
> > > does these last 
> > > minute stunts. the U had let more staff
> professors
> > > go and on and on 
> > > it just cant go on like this for long. Maybe
> this
> > > year the power 
> > > costs will get the Univ. Recall when they were
> > > asking for hand outs 
> > > to pay their Alliant bill or be shut down just a
> few
> > > years ago.
> > > >
> > > > on 11/6/05 4:56 PM, pibssmith at
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I cant believe Raju would give money to the
> TMO
> > > and sell out 
> > > like that?
> > > > > Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall
> use
> > > to be Hawthorne,
> > > > 
> > > > McQuiston
> > > > 
> > > > > Bob 
> > > > > and Carol Markowitz and Doug Wingate
> > > > 
> > > > Also Pat Draznin
> > > > 
> > > > >so guess we will hear when they
> > > > > arrive back. That will really stop people
> from
> > > going if he is 
> > > giving
> > > > > MMY money and raising his prices.
> > > > 
> > > > That already happened a long time ago. It
> didn't
> > > stop people from 
> > > going.
> > > > 
> > > > >That was the whole point and if
> > > > > there is any question with the herbs. I know
> of
> > > friend of mine 
> > > had her
> > > > > herbs tested for heavy metals when she got
> back
> > > before taking 
> > > them to
> > > > > be sure. Personally I could never make that
> trip
> > > but 23 days of 
> > > PK any
> > > > > where would make you look and feel good.
> > > > 
> > > > Raju's brother runs a clinic down in Hyderabad
> > > that some friends 
> > > of mine
> > > > have gone to with good results. It's not as
> cushy,
> > > but they say the
> > > > treatments and benefits are good.
> > > >
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Tim Hawthorne, was: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 11/7/05 10:52 AM, Peter at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> on 11/7/05 6:09 AM, Peter at
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> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> --- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> 
>  I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO
> >> and
>  sell out like that?
>  Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall
> use
> >> to
>  be Hawthorne
> >>> 
> >>> Do you mean Tina Hawthorne, married (or perhaps
> >>> unmarried) to Tim Hawthorne, the video guy in
> >> Fairfield?
> >> 
> >> Yes. They divorced and Tim remarried years ago.
> > 
> > Who did Tim remarry?
> 
> I don't know her name. his business has done well
> and he spends most of his
> time running it from an idyllic rural home in
> California.

Tim's a cool guy. He was an excellent boss when I
worked for him during the Beckley days and when he had
his own company in Fairfield. We traded some e-mails
about a year ago. Speaking of video production people,
is Herb Prechtel around in Fairfield? 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread jim_flanegin
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > Are you and I even all that different?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > We are One but we are quite different.
> > >
> > Explain please?
> >
> 
> Sorry, I just don't spend each day sitting at my computer looking 
at what is being said 
> here and wondering what to say. 
> I don't doubt your sincerity and the love you display in your 
posts.
> 
> Peace.
>
You just did [spend each day sitting at my computer looking at what 
is being said] 
, but that is beside the point...I was actually asking for an 
explanation of the paradoxical nature of your earlier statement. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> Are you and I even all that different?
> > >
> > 
> > We are One but we are quite different.
> >
> Explain please?
>

Sorry, I just don't spend each day sitting at my computer looking at what is 
being said 
here and wondering what to say. 
I don't doubt your sincerity and the love you display in your posts.

Peace.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/7/05 11:30 AM, brahmachari108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a
>> suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is
>> probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our
>> universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God,
>> whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the
>> dynamic of our Universe.
>> 
>> Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just
>> such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth-
>> like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved
>> planets, just ones like this.
>> 
> 
> Reading Markandeya Purana, the Bhagavatam, Mahabharata you can find out all
> the 
> different worlds that exist, have existed, and will exist. Where they exist,
> why they exist, 
> what and whom exists in them.

But look at the Hubble Deep Space Field photo, or Ultra Deep Space Field,
and you realize that there are trillions of galaxies out there, and that no
written account of the civilizations in the universe could cover anything
more than a tiny fraction of them.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread Vaj


On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:59 AM, uns_tressor wrote:Looks to me as if you were responsible. Have you ever been to Three Mile Island? Uns. Several times actually.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread Vaj


Perhaps the linga-purana would be my guess.On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:46 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:37 AM, uns_tressor wrote:  Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any evidence to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t? Uns.  Thank you for *-ing out the letters of bullshit, it made me feel so   much better!  Thanks for the info Vaj- Do you know of any books written about Aryon   civilization, or where I can find more info? 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a 
> suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is 
> probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our 
> universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, 
> whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the 
> dynamic of our Universe.
> 
> Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just 
> such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth-
> like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved 
> planets, just ones like this.
>

Reading Markandeya Purana, the Bhagavatam, Mahabharata you can find out all the 
different worlds that exist, have existed, and will exist. Where they exist, 
why they exist, 
what and whom exists in them.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread authfriend
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> --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Forward:  Hi Friends,
> > > 
> > > Two announcements which we thought worth seeing:
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja
> > Training
> > > Course Starting November 15
> > 
> > Separate but equal?
> 
> Ha! I noticed that too!

Wonder if that means they'll get names under their
photos now.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread jim_flanegin
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> 
> 
> --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Notice how it's always "quickly growing to higher
> > > states of consciousness" rather than living them!
> > > 
> > Yep. Where does that language come from? Is it a
> > reflection of the 
> > writer, or more like institutionalized TMO-speak? 
> > 
> > I've often thought it a very curious phrase, like
> > advertising, which 
> > often uses adjectives with no fixed reference point.
> > A higher state of 
> > consciousness, relative to what? Sure makes it easy
> > to rest on one's 
> > laurels...
> 
> And if you take this course, your laurels will be
> softer and your resting will be easier too.
> 
I sincerely doubt it.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread jim_flanegin
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Are you and I even all that different?
> >
> 
> We are One but we are quite different.
>
Explain please?





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[FairfieldLife] Tim Hawthorne, was: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/7/05 10:52 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> on 11/7/05 6:09 AM, Peter at
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
 I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO
>> and
 sell out like that?
 Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall use
>> to
 be Hawthorne
>>> 
>>> Do you mean Tina Hawthorne, married (or perhaps
>>> unmarried) to Tim Hawthorne, the video guy in
>> Fairfield?
>> 
>> Yes. They divorced and Tim remarried years ago.
> 
> Who did Tim remarry?

I don't know her name. his business has done well and he spends most of his
time running it from an idyllic rural home in California.




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[FairfieldLife] Interview and 3-day forms

2005-11-07 Thread anonymousff
Hello All
Is there anyone here who has clean copies of the Interview form and
the forms for the 3 days. I would like to get a set. Please e-mail me
at indexman AT gmail DOT com.
Thank you!!






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


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> > --- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >> I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO
> and
> >> sell out like that?
> >> Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall use
> to
> >> be Hawthorne
> > 
> > Do you mean Tina Hawthorne, married (or perhaps
> > unmarried) to Tim Hawthorne, the video guy in
> Fairfield?
> 
> Yes. They divorced and Tim remarried years ago.

Who did Tim remarry?



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > Both Vaj, myself, Off-World and Rick Archer were all
> > born on Aryon and moved to earth shortly after the
> > reactor blew.
> > 
> 
> Oh come on, we all know you were sent on an exiled prisoners ship long
> before the reactors blew up. Something to do with obscene and unholy
> acts with a dancing shepeleprat

LOL, but gots to remind us that 'ph' in 'elephant' represents
one phoneme,[f]. There is no "elep-hant", as far as us know.


 -- something like a cross between our
> sheep, elephants and  rats.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread anonymousff
When I was back in FF a few years ago for a year, I saw and interacted
a bunch with Candace, an old friend from the first year of MIU in FF,
and she is funny as always. One day at lunch in town, Rodgers finally
made her "calm down" as her riffing with me was insistent and
aggressive. Candace found herself a riot and we all wanted her to stop!
KH


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> Every see Rodgers wife, Candace around or her sister
> Lindsey?
> 
> --- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Good results sure I would get them too at any PK
> > clinic after 23 
> > days but I have to say the people I know that have
> > gone with illness 
> > or weight issues or bone density or Parkinsons feel
> > better but no 
> > real cure so to speak of but hey if they feel better
> > I say go for it.
> > Personally I could not make that trip and would sick
> > just from that 
> > alone and would be very concerned about India as I
> > am delicate so 
> > guess it all depends on how you feel about doing PK
> > in India.
> > As far as Raju and prices guess for most it is still
> > cheaper than 
> > USA and if MMY has not figured that out yet or his
> > TMO puppets then 
> > they will soon learn as the Raj is going downhill
> > and fast. It still 
> > have people come a girl was just there from France
> > for 21 days a 
> > young wealthy girl that Rodgers sucked up to as
> > usual. Guess he is 
> > back for a bit. I was over there for lunch and got
> > the scoop. Food 
> > was not great but PK meal is good. They had 5 that
> > week and claimed 
> > to have 12 the week before but I hear in general
> > that enrollment is 
> > consistently low and Jean Tobin does not manage
> > will. Ofcourse her 
> > hands are probably tied with the TMO but whatever.
> > It is only a 
> > matter of time before that closes the lower school
> > and MUM. They 
> > cant go pass another few years. The school
> > especially as the Frist 
> > and Second graders are now few to nil and the 3 and
> > 4 are combined 
> > and next year 3 classes will combine and they could
> > not accept fist 
> > and second graders if they are not enough. guess
> > that will all be 
> > dealt with late next summer as the TMO always just
> > does these last 
> > minute stunts. the U had let more staff professors
> > go and on and on 
> > it just cant go on like this for long. Maybe this
> > year the power 
> > costs will get the Univ. Recall when they were
> > asking for hand outs 
> > to pay their Alliant bill or be shut down just a few
> > years ago.
> > >
> > > on 11/6/05 4:56 PM, pibssmith at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO
> > and sell out 
> > like that?
> > > > Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall use
> > to be Hawthorne,
> > > 
> > > McQuiston
> > > 
> > > > Bob 
> > > > and Carol Markowitz and Doug Wingate
> > > 
> > > Also Pat Draznin
> > > 
> > > >so guess we will hear when they
> > > > arrive back. That will really stop people from
> > going if he is 
> > giving
> > > > MMY money and raising his prices.
> > > 
> > > That already happened a long time ago. It didn't
> > stop people from 
> > going.
> > > 
> > > >That was the whole point and if
> > > > there is any question with the herbs. I know of
> > friend of mine 
> > had her
> > > > herbs tested for heavy metals when she got back
> > before taking 
> > them to
> > > > be sure. Personally I could never make that trip
> > but 23 days of 
> > PK any
> > > > where would make you look and feel good.
> > > 
> > > Raju's brother runs a clinic down in Hyderabad
> > that some friends 
> > of mine
> > > have gone to with good results. It's not as cushy,
> > but they say the
> > > treatments and benefits are good.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> --- uns_tressor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly
> > endless diversity is a
> > > > suitable planet for evolution for a wide range
> > of human beings, 
> > and is
> > > > probably a reasonable template for a number of
> > similar planets in 
> > our
> > > > universe, built to accomodate as many souls,
> > Atmans, dewdrops of 
> > God,
> > > > whatever, coursing through the evolutionary
> > spiral that forms the
> > > > dynamic of our Universe.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know of similar planets to ours,
> > that can sustain just
> > > > such a range of physical life and evolution as
> > we have here? 
> > Earth-
> > > > like analogs? I am not so interested in more
> > evolved or less 
> > evolved
> > > > planets, just ones like this.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Well one that used to exist in our solar system is
> > Aryon. It is 
> > now  
> > > the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly
> > technologically 
> > advanced  
> > > civilization, however one of their nuclear
> > reactors went astray,  
> > > causing evacuation of the planet and the
> > colonization of this 
> > planet.
> > 
> > Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any
> > evidence
> > to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t?
> > Uns.
> 
> Both Vaj, myself, Off-World and Rick Archer were all
> born on Aryon and moved to earth shortly after the
> reactor blew.

Looks to me as if you were responsible.
Have you ever been to Three Mile Island?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Peter wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- brahmachari108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > snip
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Reading your words and most others on their
> >> proclamations betrays the level of so called
> >> enlightenment.
> >> Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
> >> he would feel the need to tell
> >> "others?" What "other" exists in enlightenment?
> >> If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this
> >> need?
> >>
> >
> > The incentive to act is the same in the enlightened as
> > well as the unenlightened. Just that the unenlightened
> > think that they do it. The enlightened know that
> > nobody does anything. It just happens like the rising
> > and setting of the sun. But this understanding is
> > utterly useless for the dharma of waking state, that's
> > for sure!
> 
> The enlightened know that?
> 
> Bumper sticker I'd like to see:
> 
> "Narcissus loves me."
>
Beautiful






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[FairfieldLife] Names of zaMkara's disciples: hastaamalaka (z = sh)

2005-11-07 Thread cardemaister

"As the knowledge of the Self was natural to
him like an /aamalaka/ fruit in one's hand [hasta],
he (Prabhaakara's son) became famous under the
name of /hastaamalaka/."

-- maadhava-vidyaaraNya, zaMkara-dig-vijaya







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > snip
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > Seriously.how does anyone ever know???
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life 
> is 
> > > one 
> > > > > long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and 
> over 
> > > > > again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby 
> we 
> > > > > recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the 
> limitations 
> > > > > that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger 
> than we 
> > > > > ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' 
> because 
> > > the 
> > > > > common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is 
> > > that we 
> > > > > *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds 
> are 
> > > built 
> > > > > typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, 
> grab 
> > > what 
> > > > > you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited 
> beings.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our 
> assumed 
> > > > > limitations, and become free, we are said to then 
> > > be 'enlightened'. 
> > > > > But it is merely relative to what our past experience has 
> been. 
> > > In 
> > > > > reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an 
> > > > > evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, 
> > > around 
> > > > > which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a 
> milestone of 
> > > > > growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from 
> the 
> > > > > achievements we have achieved all of our lives.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective 
> > > experience 
> > > > > both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, 
> > > > > responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable 
> > > qualities. 
> > > > > It both encompasses and transforms the human experience.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is 
> reached, 
> > > life 
> > > > > goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements 
> continue, 
> > > and 
> > > > > one day we will look a long way back and realize 
> > > > > that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, 
> is 
> > > not so 
> > > > > relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening 
> has 
> > > > > faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite 
> relative, or 
> > > the 
> > > > > significant achievement of learning to walk as a young 
> child. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another 
> > > enlightenment 
> > > > > beckons...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with 
> the 
> > > Truth of it?
> > > > Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to 
> let 
> > > others know what their 
> > > > thinking is on enlightenment.
> > > 
> > > What is your thinking on it?
> > 
> > What good is it to think on it? 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of 
> > > enlightenment.
> > > 
> > > Is that all you can do because you are 'brahmachari'-- *mental* 
> > > masturbation?
> > 
> > I don't do sex in any fashion. Mental or otherwise.
> > Brahmachari definition is not limited to sex.
> > Truth.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > TMO fallout.EGO.
> > > 
> > > So you've had bad experiences with the TMO?
> > 
> > No, I had "good" experiences at the time, but found out these 
> experiences really didn't 
> > provide Truth nor enlightenment.
> > No regrets.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the 
> > > proferring itself betrays.
> > > 
> > > What are you talking about?
> > 
> > Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays 
> the level of so called 
> > enlightenment.
> > Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel 
> the need to tell 
> > "others?" What "other" exists in enlightenment?
> > If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need?
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Just a few in this group actually contribute references within 
> > > their paths of practice without 
> > > > the "personal commentary" of what they think they know.
> > > > 
> > > > More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama's B-Day

2005-11-07 Thread anonymousff
Rick's Friend
When you ran the computer prog you wrote to "search back" for the date
of Rama's birthdate, what did the program "search back" in? 


In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> A friend of mine writes:
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
> Many years ago I decided to try and find the birthdate
> of Rama, since we have a handy record of the planetary
> setup at the time.  I wrote a computer prog to search
> back. This was before I had a PC, so it ran on a 6502
> machine running at 2 MHz!  I set it running all night
> and it got back about 22,000 years with no matches.
> Everything was pretty hot and I decided the algorithms
> were probably not accurate that far back.  I never
> wrote a PC version.  Do you know if anyone else has
> done it and come up with a date?
> 
> Regards
> 
> --
> 
> Anyone know?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- brahmachari108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > snip
> > 
> > > 
> > > Reading your words and most others on their
> > > proclamations betrays the level of so called 
> > > enlightenment.
> > > Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
> > > he would feel the need to tell 
> > > "others?" What "other" exists in enlightenment?
> > > If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this
> > > need?
> 
> 
> Are you speaking from personal experience? or from your understanding 
> of what the behavior of enlightened people looks like?
>

Who can know what the behavior of enlightened people looks like?
 TMO has perpetuated dangerous notions that have led to many thinking they know 
how it 
should look, both inner and outer.
Digging out of 35 years of experience in that organization that has now become 
a dark 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Notice how it's always "quickly growing to higher
> > states of consciousness" rather than living them!
> > 
> Yep. Where does that language come from? Is it a
> reflection of the 
> writer, or more like institutionalized TMO-speak? 
> 
> I've often thought it a very curious phrase, like
> advertising, which 
> often uses adjectives with no fixed reference point.
> A higher state of 
> consciousness, relative to what? Sure makes it easy
> to rest on one's 
> laurels...

And if you take this course, your laurels will be
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> on 11/7/05 10:13 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >> 
> >> Forward:  Hi Friends,
> >> 
> >> Two announcements which we thought worth seeing:
> >>  
> >> 
> >> Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training
> >> Course Starting November 15
> > 
> > Separate but equal?
> 
> Kind of reminds me of the Virginia Slims commercials: "You've got 
your own
> cigarette now baby, you've come a long, long way."
> 
> Hey, now you too can pay $1 million to wear a silly outfit and 
have a fancy
> title.
>
When do we see the Special Course for Transvestites Equivalent to 
the Ladies' Course Equivalent to Raja Training?, and the Special 
Course for Ladies-in-waiting Equivalent to the Ladies' Course 
Equivalent to Raja Training?

All I can say is each course better come up with their own style of 
hats and outfits!! Anyone want to volunteer to channel Edith Head?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Peter
Every see Rodgers wife, Candace around or her sister
Lindsey?

--- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good results sure I would get them too at any PK
> clinic after 23 
> days but I have to say the people I know that have
> gone with illness 
> or weight issues or bone density or Parkinsons feel
> better but no 
> real cure so to speak of but hey if they feel better
> I say go for it.
> Personally I could not make that trip and would sick
> just from that 
> alone and would be very concerned about India as I
> am delicate so 
> guess it all depends on how you feel about doing PK
> in India.
> As far as Raju and prices guess for most it is still
> cheaper than 
> USA and if MMY has not figured that out yet or his
> TMO puppets then 
> they will soon learn as the Raj is going downhill
> and fast. It still 
> have people come a girl was just there from France
> for 21 days a 
> young wealthy girl that Rodgers sucked up to as
> usual. Guess he is 
> back for a bit. I was over there for lunch and got
> the scoop. Food 
> was not great but PK meal is good. They had 5 that
> week and claimed 
> to have 12 the week before but I hear in general
> that enrollment is 
> consistently low and Jean Tobin does not manage
> will. Ofcourse her 
> hands are probably tied with the TMO but whatever.
> It is only a 
> matter of time before that closes the lower school
> and MUM. They 
> cant go pass another few years. The school
> especially as the Frist 
> and Second graders are now few to nil and the 3 and
> 4 are combined 
> and next year 3 classes will combine and they could
> not accept fist 
> and second graders if they are not enough. guess
> that will all be 
> dealt with late next summer as the TMO always just
> does these last 
> minute stunts. the U had let more staff professors
> go and on and on 
> it just cant go on like this for long. Maybe this
> year the power 
> costs will get the Univ. Recall when they were
> asking for hand outs 
> to pay their Alliant bill or be shut down just a few
> years ago.
> >
> > on 11/6/05 4:56 PM, pibssmith at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO
> and sell out 
> like that?
> > > Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall use
> to be Hawthorne,
> > 
> > McQuiston
> > 
> > > Bob 
> > > and Carol Markowitz and Doug Wingate
> > 
> > Also Pat Draznin
> > 
> > >so guess we will hear when they
> > > arrive back. That will really stop people from
> going if he is 
> giving
> > > MMY money and raising his prices.
> > 
> > That already happened a long time ago. It didn't
> stop people from 
> going.
> > 
> > >That was the whole point and if
> > > there is any question with the herbs. I know of
> friend of mine 
> had her
> > > herbs tested for heavy metals when she got back
> before taking 
> them to
> > > be sure. Personally I could never make that trip
> but 23 days of 
> PK any
> > > where would make you look and feel good.
> > 
> > Raju's brother runs a clinic down in Hyderabad
> that some friends 
> of mine
> > have gone to with good results. It's not as cushy,
> but they say the
> > treatments and benefits are good.
> >
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Both Vaj, myself, Off-World and Rick Archer were all
> born on Aryon and moved to earth shortly after the
> reactor blew.
> 

Oh come on, we all know you were sent on an exiled prisoners ship long
before the reactors blew up. Something to do with obscene and unholy
acts with a dancing shepeleprat -- something like a cross between our
sheep, elephants and  rats. 





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F
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> > Forward:  Hi Friends,
> > 
> > Two announcements which we thought worth seeing:
> >  
> > 
> > Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja
> Training
> > Course Starting November 15
> 
> Separate but equal?

Ha! I noticed that too!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:37 AM, uns_tressor wrote:
> 
> > Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any evidence
> > to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t?
> > Uns.
> 
> Thank you for *-ing out the letters of bullshit, it made me feel so  
> much better!
>
Thanks for the info Vaj- Do you know of any books written about Aryon  
civilization, or where I can find more info?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Notice how it's always "quickly growing to higher
> states of consciousness" rather than living them!
> 
Yep. Where does that language come from? Is it a reflection of the 
writer, or more like institutionalized TMO-speak? 

I've often thought it a very curious phrase, like advertising, which 
often uses adjectives with no fixed reference point. A higher state of 
consciousness, relative to what? Sure makes it easy to rest on one's 
laurels...






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/7/05 10:13 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Forward:  Hi Friends,
>> 
>> Two announcements which we thought worth seeing:
>>  
>> 
>> Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training
>> Course Starting November 15
> 
> Separate but equal?

Kind of reminds me of the Virginia Slims commercials: "You've got your own
cigarette now baby, you've come a long, long way."

Hey, now you too can pay $1 million to wear a silly outfit and have a fancy
title.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread pibssmith
Good results sure I would get them too at any PK clinic after 23 
days but I have to say the people I know that have gone with illness 
or weight issues or bone density or Parkinsons feel better but no 
real cure so to speak of but hey if they feel better I say go for it.
Personally I could not make that trip and would sick just from that 
alone and would be very concerned about India as I am delicate so 
guess it all depends on how you feel about doing PK in India.
As far as Raju and prices guess for most it is still cheaper than 
USA and if MMY has not figured that out yet or his TMO puppets then 
they will soon learn as the Raj is going downhill and fast. It still 
have people come a girl was just there from France for 21 days a 
young wealthy girl that Rodgers sucked up to as usual. Guess he is 
back for a bit. I was over there for lunch and got the scoop. Food 
was not great but PK meal is good. They had 5 that week and claimed 
to have 12 the week before but I hear in general that enrollment is 
consistently low and Jean Tobin does not manage will. Ofcourse her 
hands are probably tied with the TMO but whatever. It is only a 
matter of time before that closes the lower school and MUM. They 
cant go pass another few years. The school especially as the Frist 
and Second graders are now few to nil and the 3 and 4 are combined 
and next year 3 classes will combine and they could not accept fist 
and second graders if they are not enough. guess that will all be 
dealt with late next summer as the TMO always just does these last 
minute stunts. the U had let more staff professors go and on and on 
it just cant go on like this for long. Maybe this year the power 
costs will get the Univ. Recall when they were asking for hand outs 
to pay their Alliant bill or be shut down just a few years ago.
>
> on 11/6/05 4:56 PM, pibssmith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO and sell out 
like that?
> > Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall use to be Hawthorne,
> 
> McQuiston
> 
> > Bob 
> > and Carol Markowitz and Doug Wingate
> 
> Also Pat Draznin
> 
> >so guess we will hear when they
> > arrive back. That will really stop people from going if he is 
giving
> > MMY money and raising his prices.
> 
> That already happened a long time ago. It didn't stop people from 
going.
> 
> >That was the whole point and if
> > there is any question with the herbs. I know of friend of mine 
had her
> > herbs tested for heavy metals when she got back before taking 
them to
> > be sure. Personally I could never make that trip but 23 days of 
PK any
> > where would make you look and feel good.
> 
> Raju's brother runs a clinic down in Hyderabad that some friends 
of mine
> have gone to with good results. It's not as cushy, but they say the
> treatments and benefits are good.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Forward:  Hi Friends,
> 
> Two announcements which we thought worth seeing:
>  
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> Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training
> Course Starting November 15

Separate but equal?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/7/05 6:09 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> --- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO and
>> sell out like that?
>> Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall use to
>> be Hawthorne
> 
> Do you mean Tina Hawthorne, married (or perhaps
> unmarried) to Tim Hawthorne, the video guy in Fairfield?

Yes. They divorced and Tim remarried years ago.




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[FairfieldLife] Rama's B-Day

2005-11-07 Thread Rick Archer
A friend of mine writes:

Hi Rick,

Many years ago I decided to try and find the birthdate
of Rama, since we have a handy record of the planetary
setup at the time.  I wrote a computer prog to search
back. This was before I had a PC, so it ran on a 6502
machine running at 2 MHz!  I set it running all night
and it got back about 22,000 years with no matches.
Everything was pretty hot and I decided the algorithms
were probably not accurate that far back.  I never
wrote a PC version.  Do you know if anyone else has
done it and come up with a date?

Regards

--

Anyone know?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: WSJ Article on Ayurved and Abiyanga Massage with a little Chopra thrown in

2005-11-07 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Saturday's WSJ has an article about the popularity of Ayurvedic 
> > massage, and a clinic Chopra is opening somewhere.  You know, M has 
> > many faults, but he is deserving to be a charter member of the New 
> Age 
> > Hall of Fame.
> > 
> > lurk
> >
> 
> 
> The WSJ is only published on days when the stockmarket is open...

The on-line edition is published on the weekends -- the article was in
the Saturday edition.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread Vaj


On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:37 AM, uns_tressor wrote:Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any evidence to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t? Uns. Thank you for *-ing out the letters of bullshit, it made me feel so much better!





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


--- uns_tressor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
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> > 
> > On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> > 
> > > It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly
> endless diversity is a
> > > suitable planet for evolution for a wide range
> of human beings, 
> and is
> > > probably a reasonable template for a number of
> similar planets in 
> our
> > > universe, built to accomodate as many souls,
> Atmans, dewdrops of 
> God,
> > > whatever, coursing through the evolutionary
> spiral that forms the
> > > dynamic of our Universe.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of similar planets to ours,
> that can sustain just
> > > such a range of physical life and evolution as
> we have here? 
> Earth-
> > > like analogs? I am not so interested in more
> evolved or less 
> evolved
> > > planets, just ones like this.
> > >
> > 
> > Well one that used to exist in our solar system is
> Aryon. It is 
> now  
> > the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly
> technologically 
> advanced  
> > civilization, however one of their nuclear
> reactors went astray,  
> > causing evacuation of the planet and the
> colonization of this 
> planet.
> 
> Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any
> evidence
> to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t?
> Uns.

Both Vaj, myself, Off-World and Rick Archer were all
born on Aryon and moved to earth shortly after the
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread Vaj


On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Vaj wrote:On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:  It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the dynamic of our Universe.  Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth- like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved planets, just ones like this.   Well one that used to exist in our solar system is Aryon. It is now   the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly technologically advanced   civilization, however one of their nuclear reactors went astray,   causing evacuation of the planet and the colonization of this planet. "In the Aeon called Plethora there was the vast expanse of brilliance which was called the Ocean of Milk. Then the Gods and Demons who represented light and dark churned the vast ocean and it contracted into star-matter to form our galaxy which the Ancients called Galakyklos or Wheel of Milk. Then the Gods decided to place humanoids on the Earth planet to control the elementals. But the humanoids most suitable for the climate existed only on the planet Aryon where the white humanoids had developed great power in atomic and nuclear science. But the Gods feared this and their fears were soon to become a reality.A nuclear charge got out of control and began to bore its way into the planet. As there had been considerable progress in space flight, some of the Aryon people managed to get away. Many were lost or died in space but a nucleus landed on Earth and took over control of the lesser and inferior humanoids which already lived on the Earth in primitive conditions. At first they had the advantage of portable equipment and weapons but as the energy sources ran down and the instruments became broken they did not have the complete knowledge of technology for repair or replacement. Thus, they in turn were reduced to a simpler existence although they still knew methods of sanitation, medicine, agriculture, weaving and the working of metals.The planet Aryon, which orbited between Jupiter and Mars, exploded into a million fragments when the nuclear charge reached the core of the planet. The Greeks also knew of this planet which they called "Phaeton". It is now known as the Asteroids. Its original inhabitants have given us our Aryan heritage and tradition. But did the Aryons actually forget their dangerous technology or did they decide it should be a secret and to be forgotten?"-Paramahansha Dadaji Mahendranath





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a
> > suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, 
and is
> > probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in 
our
> > universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of 
God,
> > whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the
> > dynamic of our Universe.
> >
> > Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just
> > such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? 
Earth-
> > like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less 
evolved
> > planets, just ones like this.
> >
> 
> Well one that used to exist in our solar system is Aryon. It is 
now  
> the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly technologically 
advanced  
> civilization, however one of their nuclear reactors went astray,  
> causing evacuation of the planet and the colonization of this 
planet.

Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any evidence
to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t?
Uns.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread Vaj

On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:

> It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a
> suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is
> probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our
> universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God,
> whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the
> dynamic of our Universe.
>
> Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just
> such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth-
> like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved
> planets, just ones like this.
>

Well one that used to exist in our solar system is Aryon. It is now  
the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly technologically advanced  
civilization, however one of their nuclear reactors went astray,  
causing evacuation of the planet and the colonization of this planet.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


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Re: [FairfieldLife] 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread Peter
Notice how it's always "quickly growing to higher
states of consciousness" rather than living them!

--- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Forward:  Hi Friends,
> 
> Two announcements which we thought worth seeing:
>  
> 
> Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja
> Training
> Course Starting November 15
> 
> Ladies to be in charge of the ladies’ population
> throughout the world
> 
> Governor and Sidha ladies are warmly invited to rise
> to a supreme role of leadership in their chosen
> geographical area through participation in this
> beautiful administrator training course of
> Maharishi,
> to begin November 15. 
> 
> The new administrators, functioning from their own
> unified state of consciousness, will enlighten their
> whole population of ladies and girls through the
> Natural Law based programs of the Peace Palaces, to
> bring perfection to education, health, and every
> area
> of life. As they radiate a nourishing, parental role
> for all ladies, these mothers of the world will
> experience profound development of their own
> self-referral consciousness, enabling them to
> administer the trends of life everywhere fully in
> light of the Constitution of the Universe, Total
> Natural Law, the Light of God.
> 
> For further information, an application, and a video
> by Maharishi describing the sublime benefits of this
> course, please visit the Global Country of World
> Peace
> web site: http://www.globalcountry.org
> Click on either heading on that page: ”Raja Training
> November 15th” or “New Raja Training Conference:
> November 15th”
> 
> We hope that many ladies will be able to attend this
> life-transforming course; it is a very rare and
> precious opportunity to grow quickly in higher
> states
> of consciousness while bringing enlightenment to
> society.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> Susie Dillbeck
> President, Maharishi Spiritual University
> 
> 
> 
> from the International Course Office:
> 
> REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE
> CLINIC IN NEW DELHI
> 
> From the side of the movement we do not recommend
> anyone to go to the clinic in New Delhi for Pancha
> Karma treatment etc. Delhi, with its high level of
> pollution etc, is not the place to go and get well.
> There have already been cases where individuals have
> become sick after going there for treatment due
> to the bad air.
> 
> International has very strongly expressed that no
> Governors or Sidhas or Meditators from anywhere
> should
> go to the clinic in Delhi for treatment. Not only do
> people come back sick from there, but the clinic
> does
> not always use herbs of the standard of purity that
> MAPI sells around the world (they use herbs from
> non-Movement companies). They are also not using all
> of
> Maharishi's Vedic Health Technologies that are
> available in his clinics in Europe and America.
> 
> We should remind people about the vast array of
> helpful Vedic programmes Maharishi has made
> available
> everywhere to improve health and longevity -- long
> Transcendental Meditation and Transcendental
> Meditation-Sidhi programmes including Yogic Flying,
> Vedic Sound treatment (including via the Internet),
> Maharishi Vedic Vibration treatment, the Maharishi
> Spa
> treatments, Amrit Kalash and other MA Products,
> Maharishi Jyotish and Yagya,proper Vastu, etc. We
> can
> also remind that Maharishi is working intensely to
> develop the new curriculum of the Maharishi College
> of
> Vedic Medicine and that this will be the basis for
> training doctors in every country in the complete
> knowledge of health available in the Maharishi Vedic
> Approach to Health.
> 
> JAI GURU DEV
> 
> ICO
> 
> 
> 
> We hope that things are going well for you,
> 
> Jai Guru Dev,
> 
> Einar & Mary Cathryn
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] 2 announcements

2005-11-07 Thread Ron F
Forward:  Hi Friends,

Two announcements which we thought worth seeing:
 

Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training
Course Starting November 15

Ladies to be in charge of the ladies’ population
throughout the world

Governor and Sidha ladies are warmly invited to rise
to a supreme role of leadership in their chosen
geographical area through participation in this
beautiful administrator training course of Maharishi,
to begin November 15. 

The new administrators, functioning from their own
unified state of consciousness, will enlighten their
whole population of ladies and girls through the
Natural Law based programs of the Peace Palaces, to
bring perfection to education, health, and every area
of life. As they radiate a nourishing, parental role
for all ladies, these mothers of the world will
experience profound development of their own
self-referral consciousness, enabling them to
administer the trends of life everywhere fully in
light of the Constitution of the Universe, Total
Natural Law, the Light of God.

For further information, an application, and a video
by Maharishi describing the sublime benefits of this
course, please visit the Global Country of World Peace
web site: http://www.globalcountry.org
Click on either heading on that page: ”Raja Training
November 15th” or “New Raja Training Conference:
November 15th”

We hope that many ladies will be able to attend this
life-transforming course; it is a very rare and
precious opportunity to grow quickly in higher states
of consciousness while bringing enlightenment to
society.

Jai Guru Dev
Susie Dillbeck
President, Maharishi Spiritual University



from the International Course Office:

REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE
CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

>From the side of the movement we do not recommend
anyone to go to the clinic in New Delhi for Pancha
Karma treatment etc. Delhi, with its high level of
pollution etc, is not the place to go and get well.
There have already been cases where individuals have
become sick after going there for treatment due
to the bad air.

International has very strongly expressed that no
Governors or Sidhas or Meditators from anywhere should
go to the clinic in Delhi for treatment. Not only do
people come back sick from there, but the clinic does
not always use herbs of the standard of purity that
MAPI sells around the world (they use herbs from
non-Movement companies). They are also not using all
of
Maharishi's Vedic Health Technologies that are
available in his clinics in Europe and America.

We should remind people about the vast array of
helpful Vedic programmes Maharishi has made available
everywhere to improve health and longevity -- long
Transcendental Meditation and Transcendental
Meditation-Sidhi programmes including Yogic Flying,
Vedic Sound treatment (including via the Internet),
Maharishi Vedic Vibration treatment, the Maharishi Spa
treatments, Amrit Kalash and other MA Products,
Maharishi Jyotish and Yagya,proper Vastu, etc. We can
also remind that Maharishi is working intensely to
develop the new curriculum of the Maharishi College of
Vedic Medicine and that this will be the basis for
training doctors in every country in the complete
knowledge of health available in the Maharishi Vedic
Approach to Health.

JAI GURU DEV

ICO



We hope that things are going well for you,

Jai Guru Dev,

Einar & Mary Cathryn



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[FairfieldLife] Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread jim_flanegin
It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a 
suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is 
probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our 
universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, 
whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the 
dynamic of our Universe.

Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just 
such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth-
like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved 
planets, just ones like this.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is typical TMO. Dr. Raju has done an excellent job for the 
> TMO. 
> > > Now he is in the same category as Dr. Chopra. As TM-Teachers we 
> were 
> > > told to destroy all the books and materials with Dr. Chopras 
name 
> > > within and not even mention his name. The same with Peter 
Russell 
> > > and a lot of others that left the Movement. Sad!
> > > Ingegerd
> > > 
> > 
> > Who told you to destroy books with Chopra's name in them?
> >
> The Board of the TMO in Norway - referring to the ITMO.
> Ingegerd
>

HOw odd. I guess they didn't want to sell them in used bookstores or 
something. What's fun is that Chopra won't reissue his autobiography, 
so the bad feelings go both ways, ithink...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch in Seattle paper

2005-11-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > "Phrases like "oceans of bliss" and "unified field" spill out 
with 
> > breathless rapture, sounding all the stranger given Lynch's high-
> > pitched, little-old-man voice -- which one Philadelphia Inquirer 
> > reporter described as "surprisingly Poindexter-y."
> > 
> > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/247166_lynch05.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> …"I've been meditating for 35 years," Roth said jokingly, "and I 
don't know anything he's 
> talking about -- 'unified field' stuff. I just use it. (David) uses 
big words and this is how he 
> always is with everything. He lives in a very abstract world."
> 
> 
> Interesting comments from a guy who spent years hawking unified 
field-based programs 
> for the NLP.
> 

Abit of creative marketing that.

What's THIS comment about, BTW:



As a scientist, he said, he got cold feet about TM when the maharishi 
started talking about levitation and finding enlightenment through 
the comet Kohoutek.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This is typical TMO. Dr. Raju has done an excellent job for the 
TMO. 
> > Now he is in the same category as Dr. Chopra. As TM-Teachers we 
were 
> > told to destroy all the books and materials with Dr. Chopras name 
> > within and not even mention his name. The same with Peter Russell 
> > and a lot of others that left the Movement. Sad!
> > Ingegerd
> > 
> 
> Who told you to destroy books with Chopra's name in them?
>
The Board of the TMO in Norway - referring to the ITMO.
Ingegerd





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[FairfieldLife] Re: WSJ Article on Ayurved and Abiyanga Massage with a little Chopra thrown in

2005-11-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Saturday's WSJ has an article about the popularity of Ayurvedic 
> massage, and a clinic Chopra is opening somewhere.  You know, M has 
> many faults, but he is deserving to be a charter member of the New 
Age 
> Hall of Fame.
> 
> lurk
>


The WSJ is only published on days when the stockmarket is open...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is typical TMO. Dr. Raju has done an excellent job for the TMO. 
> Now he is in the same category as Dr. Chopra. As TM-Teachers we were 
> told to destroy all the books and materials with Dr. Chopras name 
> within and not even mention his name. The same with Peter Russell 
> and a lot of others that left the Movement. Sad!
> Ingegerd
> 

Who told you to destroy books with Chopra's name in them? 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: another report on David Lynch from Bay Area

2005-11-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Lynch and crew speak at UC Berkeley tonight ...
> here is an intro article:
> 
> http://www.insidebayarea.com/bayarealiving/ci_3171245
>

Wheel, whadya know, mild OCD might be beneficial for
regularity of practice... :0





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[FairfieldLife] Re: FF , Active Spiritual Practice Groups

2005-11-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Looking at Fairfield.I ran into two sets of different folks 
> yesterday who were out on the streets of Fairfield looking for 
> places here to re-settle here.  One from the West Coast with 
coastal 
> property lierally.  The other from NY.   Both were clutching 
copies 
> of the Weekly Reader's "FF Directory of Active Spiritual Practice 
> Groups" which Fairfudlians had provided them with..They are 
> excited about Fairfield because of what is going on here in the 
> active spiritual meditating community, not really because of the 
> TMO.  Actually both sets were pretty offended by how it goes with 
> the TMO now and its corruptions.  Both were pretty clear about 
> expressing that.

Turns out that these people got their copies of the FF Weekly 
Reader  "Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups" from their 
realtors . Independent and Different from the TMO now, what the 
meditating community is doing otherwise it seems is the stronger 
suit for selling people on Fairfield.  

These folks were really pretty excited with what they were seeing 
here as a place to re-locate to.  These other places while nice to 
visit, these folks are saying the West Coast is now way too crowded 
and expensive as a place to live, NYC likewise.  Fairfield is pretty 
attractive by coomparison when they consider the per-
capita `spiritual practice' going on here and also the per-capita 
easily affordable good ethnic food.  

I watched someone last year relocate a retirement to Fairfield.  The 
person came here, bought a real nice house for 60K, went back to the 
East Coast and sold the life's holdings there.  Now I see this 
person at so many of the meetings just enjoying so much of what is 
here to be engaged by. 

Jai Guru Dev,

-Doug 

> 
> It is real interesting in trend to see how many new comers have 
> moved here already because of the larger meditatingcommunity.  
> 
> The preamble of the Directory says it well:  "Directory of Active 
> Fairfield Spiritual Practice Groups 
>  
> Outside of Fairfield, people intently ask, "What is going on in 
> Fairfield?" The spiritual, utopian side of Fairfield is something 
> they are wondering about. Fairfield has become recognized as a 
> spiritual Mecca of sorts, ranking with Sedona, Arizona, Boulder 
and 
> Crestone, Colorado, Ashville, North Carolina and the like. Within 
> these past three decades, Fairfield spiritual practice groups have 
> matured, giving this community a rich, new face. 
> The long-time Fairfield meditating community today is its own 
center 
> for spiritual practice. The breadth of spiritual practice groups 
in 
> Fairfield is now a unique feature of our town in the 21st Century."
> 
> The directory was posted at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77260
> 
> 
> -Doug
> 






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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Fairfield Weekly Reader this week published a directory 
of 'active 
> > spiritual practice groups' in Fairfield.  Twenty seven groups 
> listed.  
> > 
> > In looking over the list there is a range, but they are active 
> ones.  
> > Evidently there is a lot of spiritual practice going on here 
> > independent of the TMO.  Going through the list, it is pretty 
> evident 
> > too that there are now way more people living here doing 'other 
> > things'than going to the domes.
> > 
> > -Doug
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Forum for the Anklesaria's

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
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> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
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> > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
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> > > > > > Anyone who has initiated 40,000 people
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> > > the
> > > > > > Absolute can say and do anything he wants!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Where does the 40K figure come from?
> > > > 
> > > > It was in a prior post in the thread. It said,
> > > "4k"
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > OK,that's believable. Farrokh was in charge of
> the
> > > Senegal project and 
> > > helped initiate 10,000 inmates and guards.
> > 
> > Actually it's 40K not 4K. 40,000 does sound a
> little
> > high!
> 
> 
> Yeah, it kinda sounds like Wilt Chamberlain's claim
> to have had sex 
> with 10,000 women...just think of the logistics of
> it...

I did and it doesn't sound right, unless he was doing
group initiations. 4k, yes, 40k, no.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI

2005-11-07 Thread Peter


--- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cant believe Raju would give money to the TMO and
> sell out like that?
> Some folks are there now Tina Mc cant recall use to
> be Hawthorne

Do you mean Tina Hawthorne, married (or perhaps
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lewis Lapham's 'With Beatles' - Required Reading for FFLifers -

2005-11-07 Thread Peter
And exactly why should we read this book?

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[FairfieldLife] another report on David Lynch from Bay Area

2005-11-07 Thread Brahman
Lynch and crew speak at UC Berkeley tonight ...
here is an intro article:

http://www.insidebayarea.com/bayarealiving/ci_3171245





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