date:20051112

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wrote:

 
 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/11/051110215950.htm
 
 Meditation Associated With Increased Grey Matter In The Brain
 Meditation is known to alter resting brain patterns, suggesting 
long 
 lasting brain changes, but a new study by researchers from Yale, 
 Harvard, Massachusetts General Hospital, and the Massachusetts 
 Institute of Technology shows meditation also is associated with 
 increased cortical thickness.



They said other forms of yoga and meditation likely have a similar 
impact on cortical structure, although each tradition would be 
expected to have a slightly different pattern of cortical thickening 
based on the specific mental exercises involved.


Will be interesting to see if TM has this effect. It doesn't affect 
one hemisphere over the other and isn't a mental exercise.



 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lalitha Sahasranam posted on-line

2005-11-12 Thread clucere

Which way does the Kamakshi Devi temple face?  Is it proper vastu?



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 I have some recordings of Lalith Sahasranam which I will post on
 www.puja.net so anyone who wants them can download for free.  I think
 I also have a  transliteration and translation which I will also post
 in case you are interested.  The links will be towards the bottom of
 the main page.
 
 Interestingly enough the site where Agastya-rishi was given this
 knowledge by Varaha is the Varadaraja Temple in Kanchipuram southeast
 of Madras. 
 
 The temple is literally across the street from the place where my
 puja.net yagya group has our monthly yagyas.  Inside the temple walls
 is the 2nd largest Vishnu temple in all of India.  The temple has a
 large water pond in the middle of which is a special temple for a
 form of Vishnu that is kept in a special sealed box under the water
 and only taken out for pujas every 30 years!
 
 As an aside all of the temples in Kanchipuram face the main temple in
 the area, the Kamakshi Devi temple.  So there are many many south
 facing temples.  (so much for vastu!)
 
 Regards,
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[FairfieldLife] Day of Awakening Celebration - today in Washington DC

2005-11-12 Thread George DeForest


Today 11/12/05:

** Maharishi to Address Global Celebrations of
 the Day of Awakening of Permanent World Peace 

** New Capital of the Global Country of World Peace 
to Be Established in Washington, DC To Create 
Coherent National Consciousness - the Basis of 
Ideal, Prevention-Oriented Administration



His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of the 
Global Country of World Peace, will address the 
grand, global celebrations of the Day of Awakening 
of Permanent World Peace, to be held on Saturday, 
November 12-the Day of Awakening of Total Natural Law 
in the annual Vedic calendar.

Maharishi will speak live via satellite and Internet webcast 
from the Capital of the Global Country of World Peace 
in Meru, Holland. The celebration will begin at 1:00 p.m. (ET).

During the festivities, His Highness Raja Dr. Dean Dodrill, 
the Raja of Washington, will announce the establishment 
of the Capital of the Global Country of World Peace 
in Washington, D.C. Raja Dean said the new Capital 
will provide government leaders with the knowledge and 
scientifically validated programs of Total Natural Law - 
the Constitution of the Universe - to create coherent 
collective consciousness, which is the basis of 
prevention-oriented, problem free administration 
and invincibility for the nation.

Washington, D.C. is the capital of the world, Raja Dean said. 
Now, with the establishment here of the Capital of the 
Global Country of World Peace, Washington will become 
a lighthouse of coherence and harmony for the whole world - 
a capital of peace - creating permanent peace in the family of nations.

The celebrations in the United States will be held 
at The Fairmont Hotel, 2401 M Street, NW, beginning at 
12 noon (ET) and will also include a gala luncheon banquet; 
the traditional Vedic recitation of the Anthem of the 
Global Country of World Peace by Vedic Pandits; 
and addresses by Dr. John Hagelin, President of 
the U.S. Peace Government and Minister of Science and 
Technology of the Global Country of World Peace; 
Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country 
of World Peace; and the Rajas of the seven domains 
of the Global Country of World Peace in the United States.

Maharishi's celebration of the Day of Awakening 
of Permanent World Peace follows by nearly four months 
Maharishi's proclamation of the dawn of Heaven on Earth - 
Sat Yuga - on July 21, 2005, Guru Purnima Day. 

Maharishi announced that his Global Peace Program, 
which includes establishing large numbers of 
peace-creating Vedic Pandits in India performing 
Vedic Yagyas and Grahashanti, as well as groups 
of peace-creating Yogic Flyers in every country, 
is creating coherent world consciousness - the 
basis of permanent world peace. 

World press reports since Maharishi launched his 
Global Peace Program in April 2005 clearly show 
a dramatic a turnaround in world events, including 
rapidly increasing harmony between former 
enemy nations and a growing rejection by people 
throughout the world of destructive government policies.

The time of destruction is over, Maharishi proclaimed. 
The light of Total Natural Law - the light of peace - is 
dawning for the whole world family.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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snip
  Bear in mind that there's nobody on this forum in a
  position to defend the ME studies.  It's easy to make
  folks think you've debunked something when they aren't
  able to see a response to the debunking.
 
 Of course, official MUM policy appears to guarantee that we won't 
 have anyone in-the-know defending it, either...

Kurt Arbuckle had quite a bit to say on alt.m.t
about Markovsky's critique of the Jerusalem study,
and how Markovsky had fouled up his statistics.
If I have a chance I'll see if I can dig up some
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Re: [FairfieldLife] pc recording studio home setup

Kenny, I'd get a Macintosh with GarageBand on it, a good quality  
microphone and a foot pedal to start/stop recording and you should be  
on your way to your first Grammy :-).

I have a Taylor 12 too. You're right about the sound transporting  
you. Wonderful guitars.

On Nov 12, 2005, at 1:28 AM, Kenny H wrote:

 Hello Group

 I have a beautiful Taylor 12-string guitar (the sound transports me
 when I play) and a gorgeous Martin D-18 custom guitar and I want to
 lay down some multilayered tracks here at home so I can make beautiful
 music with myself (smooch).

 Has anyone reading here at FFLife had experience in setting up their
 pc as a recording studio? I need to start really basic just so I can
 lay down a rhythm track or two to practice along with and then
 eventually add some lead lines.

 I'd appreciate any advice I can get about doing this.

 Post to me here or beep me at kennyhassman at yahoo dot com

 KH



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[FairfieldLife] Re: pc recording studio home setup

2005-11-12 Thread L B Shriver

Get a Mac and do it witih Garage Band.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Group
 
 I have a beautiful Taylor 12-string guitar (the sound transports me
 when I play) and a gorgeous Martin D-18 custom guitar and I want to
 lay down some multilayered tracks here at home so I can make beautiful
 music with myself (smooch).
 
 Has anyone reading here at FFLife had experience in setting up their
 pc as a recording studio? I need to start really basic just so I can
 lay down a rhythm track or two to practice along with and then
 eventually add some lead lines. 
 
 I'd appreciate any advice I can get about doing this.
 
 Post to me here or beep me at kennyhassman at yahoo dot com
 
 KH







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[FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  feste37 wrote:
 
  Actually, the people in Fairfield who give deeksha
  don't charge for it. It's free for anyone who wants it,
  although you can leave a donation if you want. There is
  no pressure on anyone to give or to recruit. 

Well, they do have the lingo down actually...  You'll be enlightened 
and never need to do sadana anymore with enough deeksha.  Real sweet 
and earnest people, are pretty
vested and are going back for the next hit of darshan.


 
 i am curious how big of a following there is in fairfield
 now, taking this deeksha ... just a handful, or is it
 a growing trend now that TMO is faltering? Do they have
 their own Center in fairfield, for this Kalki deeksha thing?
 Or a website?

Seems sort of like everyone is giving `deeksha' here.   Chalanda Sai 
Ma saw Kalki giving deeksh some while ago so she thought `heck I can 
do that as a modality' and started giving it and also then teaching 
how to give `deeksha'.  There is a lot of 'energy work' here otherwise 
of the similar modality.

The irony is that one of the first weekends that the couple who were 
back from India having learned it for thousands of dollars from Kalki, 
the local Chalanda Ma devotees gave a weekend course in how to give 
deeksha for 45 bucks to cover the cost..   In both cases it is sort of 
a laying of hands on the head energy work in form.   From either the 
Kalki people here or the Chalanda Ma people here it is nice.  Partly 
it is nice because of the powerful room of spiritual practitioners who 
will git together and be at these meetings.  It is a powerful 
meditating group here.

As far as money, the Chalanda Sai Ma and Kalki folks here skate a fine 
line just to cover costs.  People here generally are weary (sensitive) 
of the cult thing of raising money.  Also, a lot of the money that 
used to be here just is not anymore.  Just us spiritual church mice 
remain mostly.

-Doug











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[FairfieldLife] The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study


On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Nov 11, 2005, at 10:20 PM, sparaig wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:



 --- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LB, your last post in this thread was truncated, so I
 couldn't include it, but I wanted to compliment you on
 your observations. As you note, science is, at its
 best, an international, public discourse. I can
 understand MIU's reluctance to hand over the raw data
 for reasons that have nothing to do with this
 discourse. All movement research is for one purpose
 only: to promote the teaching of TM/TM-Siddhis. It's
 for PR only. Those in charge, MMY, aren't interested
 in developing a coherent theory of the field effects
 of consciousness. They just want to sell TM. The MIU
 researchers won't hand over the raw data because the
 ME is very weak, almost noise, not pattern. It can
 easily be shown not to exist using alternative, and
 more traditional, statistical methods used in this
 type of research.


 You may be correct, but your evidence of this is...?

 Wake Up and smell the Raja's Cup. It's been in front of us all the
 time.

 How could we miss it?

 And if Vaj says there's been evidence in front of
 us all the time, by golly, it must be true.

 Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
 us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
 that link Do nothing and accomplish everything to
 get-rich-quick schemes?

Right after you deposit the 175 dollars an hour research fee into my  
PayPay account. A two hour retainer should be sufficient.

Really, anyone who spent time in the movement and had NOT come across  
people trying to hatch get-rich-quick schemes, just hasn't been around.

I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund and  
Jack Normand try to hatch. Jack even started a course on it and got  
us to attend his seminar. He thought he was enlightened at the time.

And they were convinced that enlightenment and wealth went hand in hand.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Nov 11, 2005, at 10:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
snip
  LB, your last post in this thread was truncated, so I
  couldn't include it, but I wanted to compliment you on
  your observations. As you note, science is, at its
  best, an international, public discourse. I can
  understand MIU's reluctance to hand over the raw data
  for reasons that have nothing to do with this
  discourse. All movement research is for one purpose
  only: to promote the teaching of TM/TM-Siddhis. It's
  for PR only. Those in charge, MMY, aren't interested
  in developing a coherent theory of the field effects
  of consciousness. They just want to sell TM. The MIU
  researchers won't hand over the raw data because the
  ME is very weak, almost noise, not pattern. It can
  easily be shown not to exist using alternative, and
  more traditional, statistical methods used in this
  type of research.
 
  You may be correct, but your evidence of this is...?
 
  Wake Up and smell the Raja's Cup. It's been in front of us all 
  the time.
 
  How could we miss it?
 
  And if Vaj says there's been evidence in front of
  us all the time, by golly, it must be true.
 
  Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
  us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
  that link Do nothing and accomplish everything to
  get-rich-quick schemes?
 
 Right after you deposit the 175 dollars an hour research fee into
 my PayPay account. A two hour retainer should be sufficient.

Well, no, you had already *done* the research,
obviously.  Otherwise you would have had no basis
for making that claim.

So tell us--just give us a few examples--of the Web
sites you were referring to.  No need to do any
additional research.

 Really, anyone who spent time in the movement and had NOT come 
 across people trying to hatch get-rich-quick schemes, just hasn't 
 been around.

That may be, but it's not the issue here, you see.

The issue is all those Web sites you claimed linked
MMY's Do nothing and accomplish everything to get-
rich-quick schemes.

So let's see a few examples of the sites you had in
mind, please.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: pc recording studio home setup

2005-11-12 Thread benjaminccollins


Kenny,

I havea  setup that I use for my Vedic Mytholoogy podcast. Personally,
I like using Sony Audio Studio for recording software.  It is readily
available from a variety of sources and not too expensive $69.

Then I suggest going to a place like MusiciansFriend.com and buy
yourself a good condenser mic ($70 for an MXL), stand $20, and a mixer
with a USB interface (Alesis for $114). and you are all set to go!

Let me know if you need any help.

 Ben




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Group
 
 I have a beautiful Taylor 12-string guitar (the sound transports me
 when I play) and a gorgeous Martin D-18 custom guitar and I want to
 lay down some multilayered tracks here at home so I can make beautiful
 music with myself (smooch).
 
 Has anyone reading here at FFLife had experience in setting up their
 pc as a recording studio? I need to start really basic just so I can
 lay down a rhythm track or two to practice along with and then
 eventually add some lead lines. 
 
 I'd appreciate any advice I can get about doing this.
 
 Post to me here or beep me at kennyhassman at yahoo dot com
 
 KH








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lalitha Sahasranam posted on-line

2005-11-12 Thread benjaminccollins


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, clucere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Which way does the Kamakshi Devi temple face?  Is it proper vastu?

It faces east, which is traditional, but all the others face it so
only 25% of them are proper.

The largest Vishnu temple in India is in Srirangam and it faces south
because it is oriented toward SriLanka.  The temple is Vishnu lying
down watching for Vibishina, Ravana's brother from the Ramayana story
who was a big devotee.

I guess my point is that proper vastu may be something of an over
simplification at times.







 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I have some recordings of Lalith Sahasranam which I will post on
  www.puja.net so anyone who wants them can download for free.  I think
  I also have a  transliteration and translation which I will also post
  in case you are interested.  The links will be towards the bottom of
  the main page.
  
  Interestingly enough the site where Agastya-rishi was given this
  knowledge by Varaha is the Varadaraja Temple in Kanchipuram southeast
  of Madras. 
  
  The temple is literally across the street from the place where my
  puja.net yagya group has our monthly yagyas.  Inside the temple walls
  is the 2nd largest Vishnu temple in all of India.  The temple has a
  large water pond in the middle of which is a special temple for a
  form of Vishnu that is kept in a special sealed box under the water
  and only taken out for pujas every 30 years!
  
  As an aside all of the temples in Kanchipuram face the main temple in
  the area, the Kamakshi Devi temple.  So there are many many south
  facing temples.  (so much for vastu!)
  
  Regards,
  Ben
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-12 Thread uns_tressor

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote: 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Nov 11, 2005, at 10:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  --- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  LB, your last post in this thread was truncated, so I
  couldn't include it, but I wanted to compliment you on
  your observations. As you note, science is, at its
  best, an international, public discourse. I can
  understand MIU's reluctance to hand over the raw data
  for reasons that have nothing to do with this
  discourse. All movement research is for one purpose
  only: to promote the teaching of TM/TM-Siddhis. It's
  for PR only. Those in charge, MMY, aren't interested
  in developing a coherent theory of the field effects
  of consciousness. They just want to sell TM. The MIU
  researchers won't hand over the raw data because the
  ME is very weak, almost noise, not pattern. It can
  easily be shown not to exist using alternative, and
  more traditional, statistical methods used in this
  type of research.
 
 
  You may be correct, but your evidence of this is...?
 
  Wake Up and smell the Raja's Cup. It's been in front of us all 
the
  time.
 
  How could we miss it?
 
  And if Vaj says there's been evidence in front of
  us all the time, by golly, it must be true.
 
  Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
  us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
  that link Do nothing and accomplish everything to
  get-rich-quick schemes?

 I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund 
 and  Jack Normand try to hatch


...No, you can't. You're a bullshitter, Vaj.
Put up or shut up.
Uns.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote: 
snip
   Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
   us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
   that link Do nothing and accomplish everything to
   get-rich-quick schemes?
 
  I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund 
  and  Jack Normand try to hatch
 
 ...No, you can't. You're a bullshitter, Vaj.

What, our Vaj, a bullshitter?  Say not so!

That would mean he's a gulp hypocrite.  How is
that possible?  I mean, he just got done telling
us the Maharishi Effect doesn't exist and that the
TM researchers are scam artists.

 Put up or shut up.

Or as Vaj would say, Wake up and smell the Raja's Cup.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
   On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote: 
 snip
Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
that link Do nothing and accomplish everything to
get-rich-quick schemes?
  
   I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary
   Osterlund and  Jack Normand try to hatch
  
  ...No, you can't. You're a bullshitter, Vaj.
 
 What, our Vaj, a bullshitter?  Say not so!
 
 That would mean he's a gulp hypocrite.  How is
 that possible?  I mean, he just got done telling
 us the Maharishi Effect doesn't exist and that the
 TM researchers are scam artists.

Come to think of it, perhaps it takes one to know one...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-12 Thread uns_tressor

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote: 
 snip
Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
that link Do nothing and accomplish everything to
get-rich-quick schemes?
  
   I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund 
   and  Jack Normand try to hatch
  
  ...No, you can't. You're a bullshitter, Vaj.
 
 What, our Vaj, a bullshitter?  Say not so!
 
 That would mean he's a gulp hypocrite.  How is
 that possible?  I mean, he just got done telling
 us the Maharishi Effect doesn't exist and that the
 TM researchers are scam artists.
 
  Put up or shut up.
 
 Or as Vaj would say, Wake up and smell the Raja's Cup.

I think Vaj is in trouble with his Sales Manager because 
his sales figures for October are down. If he doesn't
get 50% more conversions to his sect in November, then
he will lose his Christmas Bonus and his 14 day 
vacation in Florida.
Uns.





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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Spontaneous Experiences of the Divine

2005-11-12 Thread Ron F

--- Perfect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To: MMY yahoo group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Perfect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:30:49 -0500
 Subject: [Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi] Spontaneous Experiences of the Divine

 Q: There are records of artists, poets, scientists and saints who have had
 profoundly illuminating spiritual experiences. Could Maharishi explain the
 mechanics of such spontaneous experiences of the Divine, and why does it 
 happen
 for some but not most people?

 Answer from Maharishi: 
 http://www.mapi.com/answers/097_Spontaneous_Divine.mp3

 Originally aired on Maharishi Channel: 4 June 03.

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[FairfieldLife] More on Diksha

From a friend:

Sounds like Indian diksha is different than American. This is SERIOUSLY
powerful stuff. Why don't you give it a try and see for yourself? These
people are sincere. There's no pushing to go to the India course. There's NO
levels. As a matter of fact they emphasize that you don't have to go to
india to get enlightened...India is if you want to GIVE diksha yourself.
Seriously Rick this is real.

Thing is, I don't challenge that letter you sent. Could be true.  But I'm
not blowing off this whole thing because of that letter...I'm too selfish.
:)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Spontaneous Experiences of the Divine

2005-11-12 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Perfect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  To: MMY yahoo group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: Perfect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:30:49 -0500
  Subject: [Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi] Spontaneous Experiences of the 
Divine

  Q: There are records of artists, poets, scientists and saints 
who have had
  profoundly illuminating spiritual experiences. Could Maharishi 
explain the
  mechanics of such spontaneous experiences of the Divine, and why 
does it happen
  for some but not most people?

  Answer from Maharishi: 
http://www.mapi.com/answers/097_Spontaneous_Divine.mp3

  Originally aired on Maharishi Channel: 4 June 03.

I just listened to this excerpt. Initially MMY says that such 
experiences are *accidents*, but goes on to modify his statement by 
saying that such experiences are due to the karma of the 
experiencer, and therefore not really accidents, then modifies that 
by saying that a pathless path of knowledge and experience are good 
and necessary components of discovering oneself. 

To summarize, MMY appears to on the one hand validate such 
experiences, and on the other, wants to minimize the importance of 
divine experiences as a milestone of one's journey to oneself, or 
have the listener understand such experinces as one of an infinite 
number of possibilities within the context of understanding oneself.

I agree with his perspective, though I am not sure if it apparent 
what he is talking about if one is hearing it from waking state 
consciousness. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Diksha

2005-11-12 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From a friend:
 
 Sounds like Indian diksha is different than American. This is 
SERIOUSLY
 powerful stuff. Why don't you give it a try and see for yourself? 
These
 people are sincere. There's no pushing to go to the India course. 
There's NO
 levels. As a matter of fact they emphasize that you don't have to 
go to
 india to get enlightened...India is if you want to GIVE diksha 
yourself.
 Seriously Rick this is real.
 
 Thing is, I don't challenge that letter you sent. Could be true.  
But I'm
 not blowing off this whole thing because of that letter...I'm too 
selfish.
 :)

If we are equating diksha with techniques to facilitate an opening 
or a release of crown energy, folks probably want to be a little 
careful here. It is powerful stuff and probably best if we just let 
it occur naturally. 





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From an ex-member of the Kalki cult

on 11/12/05 2:20 AM, Brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 feste37 wrote:
 
 Actually, the people in Fairfield who give deeksha
 don't charge for it. It's free for anyone who wants it,
 although you can leave a donation if you want. There is
 no pressure on anyone to give or to recruit.
 
 i am curious how big of a following there is in fairfield
 now, taking this deeksha ... just a handful, or is it
 a growing trend now that TMO is faltering? Do they have
 their own Center in fairfield, for this Kalki deeksha thing?
 Or a website?

Nathan and Marie Zenack have been to India and are authorized to give Diksha
and do so regularly. Don't know how many participate. Also the Chalanda Ma
(Sai Ma) folks give Diksha.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

on 11/12/05 7:17 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund and
 Jack Normand try to hatch. Jack even started a course on it and got
 us to attend his seminar. He thought he was enlightened at the time.

Were those Fairfield guys, doing that in Fairfield?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study


On Nov 12, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

 on 11/12/05 7:17 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund and
 Jack Normand try to hatch. Jack even started a course on it and got
 us to attend his seminar. He thought he was enlightened at the time.

 Were those Fairfield guys, doing that in Fairfield?

No, Pennsylvania. Although one of the get rich quick seminars they  
attended was originally in Fairfield (in the 80's). Promised to make  
you a millionaire for about 15,000 dollars.

It didn't.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: pc recording studio home setup--version 2 $100!

2005-11-12 Thread benjaminccollins

It also occurs to me that there very nice condenser mic that goes
right into your PC's USB port for about $79.  Then all you need is the
software.  There is some free audio editing software called Audacity
that you can get from SourceForge.com.  So you are in business for
less than $100!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Kenny,
 
 I havea  setup that I use for my Vedic Mytholoogy podcast. Personally,
 I like using Sony Audio Studio for recording software.  It is readily
 available from a variety of sources and not too expensive $69.
 
 Then I suggest going to a place like MusiciansFriend.com and buy
 yourself a good condenser mic ($70 for an MXL), stand $20, and a mixer
 with a USB interface (Alesis for $114). and you are all set to go!
 
 Let me know if you need any help.
 
  Ben
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello Group
  
  I have a beautiful Taylor 12-string guitar (the sound transports me
  when I play) and a gorgeous Martin D-18 custom guitar and I want to
  lay down some multilayered tracks here at home so I can make beautiful
  music with myself (smooch).
  
  Has anyone reading here at FFLife had experience in setting up their
  pc as a recording studio? I need to start really basic just so I can
  lay down a rhythm track or two to practice along with and then
  eventually add some lead lines. 
  
  I'd appreciate any advice I can get about doing this.
  
  Post to me here or beep me at kennyhassman at yahoo dot com
  
  KH
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: pc recording studio home setup--version 2 $100!

2005-11-12 Thread Kenny H

Ben
Thanks for both your posts with the recommendations. I will check this
out over the weekend.
Ken

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It also occurs to me that there very nice condenser mic that goes
 right into your PC's USB port for about $79.  Then all you need is the
 software.  There is some free audio editing software called Audacity
 that you can get from SourceForge.com.  So you are in business for
 less than $100!
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Kenny,
  
  I havea  setup that I use for my Vedic Mytholoogy podcast. Personally,
  I like using Sony Audio Studio for recording software.  It is readily
  available from a variety of sources and not too expensive $69.
  
  Then I suggest going to a place like MusiciansFriend.com and buy
  yourself a good condenser mic ($70 for an MXL), stand $20, and a mixer
  with a USB interface (Alesis for $114). and you are all set to go!
  
  Let me know if you need any help.
  
   Ben
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
   Hello Group
   
   I have a beautiful Taylor 12-string guitar (the sound transports me
   when I play) and a gorgeous Martin D-18 custom guitar and I want to
   lay down some multilayered tracks here at home so I can make
beautiful
   music with myself (smooch).
   
   Has anyone reading here at FFLife had experience in setting up their
   pc as a recording studio? I need to start really basic just so I can
   lay down a rhythm track or two to practice along with and then
   eventually add some lead lines. 
   
   I'd appreciate any advice I can get about doing this.
   
   Post to me here or beep me at kennyhassman at yahoo dot com
   
   KH
  
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 12, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
snip
  Were those Fairfield guys, doing that in Fairfield?
 
 No, Pennsylvania. Although one of the get rich quick seminars 
 they attended was originally in Fairfield (in the 80's). Promised to 
 make you a millionaire for about 15,000 dollars.

What about all the Web sites you claimed linked MMY's
Do nothing, accomplish everything to get-rich-quick
schemes, Vaj?






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[FairfieldLife] How to shoot beyond the target: (article on TM - needs leters to the editor- join in)

2005-11-12 Thread Hagen J. Holtz






Meditation movement lacks proper 
credentialsEditorialBy Emerald editorial boardNovember 10, 2005A sold-out 
crowd packed into 150 Columbia Tuesday night to hear famous filmmaker David 
Lynch speak. Perhaps they came to learn about the meaning of his dark films, but 
Lynch primarily used his time to promote the controversial practice of 
Transcendental Meditation.
This does not seem to be a problem or does it 
?A practitioner of TM for 32 years, Lynch wants to raise 
billions of dollars to teach it to any child in America who wants to learn it. 
Like many TM proponents, Lynch, accompanied by two âexperts,â described TM 
as a way to usher in world peace and achieve greater personal effectiveness. 
Lynch and his comrades couched the practice in scientific terms.But they 
didnât give the audience the whole story.Now famous as the Beatlesâ 
one-time guru, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi founded TM in India in 1958 as the 
outgrowth of a Hindu spiritual movement.
A preferredly 
applied prejudice ofcritics.
Since then, 
more than 6 million people have learned TM, according to the organizationâs 
Web site. Learning the technique costs $2,500.At first, TM practitioners 
meditate for about 20 minutes twice daily with their eyes closed, repeating a 
syllabic phrase or âmantraâ to reach âpure awarenessâ and rid themselves 
of conscious thought.
A bit superficial description of the 
mechanism.We donât dispute the fact that meditation in 
general can be calming and beneficial. Yet we raise questions consumers should 
seriously consider before purchasing this commodity as a means to attain 
peace.
That one should do.First, we question 
the high cost. During his speech, Lynch said people who really want peace will 
find the money to pay for TM classes. Some advocates say the cost ensures the TM 
movement will persevere and grow, and that the price wouldnât seem outrageous 
if we lived in a culture that values meditation.
This is a lame 
argumentation of the TM-Movement. If I persue a non-attractive price, then I 
should not be surprised, why noone is joining.
And by the waywhat gives the movement the 
right to sell a spiritual good, which is not evenits 
"possession",for a price, which rather enhances materialistic 
thinking than an attitude of spiritual-matter oriented 
balance.
Yet people 
can learn many types of meditation for free from books and classes. Proponents 
claim the TM mantras are more effective than repeating secular sounds, but some 
books on meditation say otherwise.
Opinion against opinion. Scientific research is able to 
distinguish the difference. And this has nothing to do with "TM-Science". 
Scientists can find out common criteria.We also question the 
scientific merits of TM. Advocates claim a multitude of scientific studies 
validate the physiological benefits of TM. Many of these studies, however, are 
conducted at the organizationâs own Maharishi University of Management and 
they are not necessarily published in peer-reviewed journals. 
This is an 
assumption but not a proof for falsification.
Any scholars 
thinking about trying TM should check out these scientific claims, especially 
those that suggest TM is different from other forms of meditation. We also 
cannot find any credible evidence to support the claim that TM creates peace by 
âradiating an influence of harmony to your surroundings.â In light of the 
recent heated debate over the scientific merit of Intelligent Design, TM should 
come under equally rigorous investigation.
Then look more thoroughly into it and find out the 
difference!People with certain religious beliefs 
should also investigate the religious roots of TM. 
Even our modern 
science has its religious roots. So it is ridiculous to look for religious 
roots. What should be the recognition ?
Although advocates 
claim it is simply a âmental techniqueâ and not a religion or philosophy, 
historical facts clearly show TM is rooted in Hinduism; the mantras people 
repeat during TM are the names of Hindu gods.
There might be a 
coincidence but this does not proof anything.
Moreover, 
the movement lost a 1979 suit after the New Jersey Supreme Court ruled TM was 
based on religious concepts and shouldnât be taught in schools. TM has been 
presented in a secular package to appeal to Westerners.
TM is as little based on religious concepts as sleep is 
based on that. It would be interesting how the court might have 
argued.Millions of people like Lynch have found TM to be a 
satisfying and worthwhile purchase, as demonstrated by their longtime 
commitments to the practice. However, we hope listeners at Lynchâs recent 
speech take the initiative to investigate the statements made by this salesman 
of pseudo-science and evaluate whether they belong in an academic setting like 
this University. We think they donât.
It seems that you are right in being suspicious about the 
way of presentation, which does not seem to be down to earth anymore. But this

[FairfieldLife] Re: eating meat/ostrich anyone?

2005-11-12 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After many years of following a primarily vegetarian diet I have
 blimped out with no end in sight. It's clear that the grains,
 startchy veggies, beans will keep packing the pounds on my
 already not small frame.

That was my experience as well. I hit my mid-30's and the weight
started packing on until I hit 190 pounds in the summer of 2003, at
age 42. Six months later, on a diet of meat and veggies and a tiny
fraction the grain and beans I used to eat, I was down to 160. A year
and a half of weight training has muscled me up to 175, and I've never
felt better. Lots of energy. Nice physique.
 
 Also, has anyone tried ostrich? 

Ostrich and emu are delish... I think they look and taste quite
similar to beef. But, proper cooking is essential! They have very
little fat, and when overcooked, become tough as leather. Gotta at
least leave some pink in the middle (rare is best, IMO).

Alex






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is the truth?

2005-11-12 Thread Irmeli Mattsson

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 From a friend of mine in Germany:

 -- Forwarded Message
 From: Peter Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Peter Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:01:28 +0100
 To: NATHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Where is the truth?

 Peter,
 Thanks for nice and very free notes.
  I feel also some changes,
 but  I did not yet have find truth.
 Maybe because the truth is also a concept.

 By.
 M

 Dear M

 there is only one realm in which we cannot find truth: in the self
created
 realm of our mind where we dwell in expectation, hope and anticipation.

 When your mind functions in the hoping and wishing mode we somehow
deny the
 truth of the moment by separating us from what is.

 The Truth is aways in front of our eyes. The more we are present and
 participate with the realiyt of the moment the more the truth will
reveal
 itself to us.

 What is the most difficult thing in life?
 To see that which is in front of your eyes
 -Johann Wolfgang Goethe-

 The more you are spending time in hoping, anticipating, expecting,
dreaming
 and wishing the more space you will create between you and truth.

 You are spending to much time in looking for something that may only
exist
 in your imagination

 You are made out of truth, every cell and every neuron of your brain is
 reverberating and oscillating in the frequency of truth, you are
surrounded
 by nothing but truth, every thought you think, every emotion you
feel and
 every perception you undertake is nothing but the experience of truth.

 How can you say that you have not yet find the truth?

 What you are looking for?

 How can a fish being constantly in water be thirsty?

 Everything around you is not only an expression of truth but truth
itself.

 You are swimming in truth, truth is penetrating every fiber of your
being.

 The entire universe with its infinite space-time-geometry is nothing but
 truth.

 There is nothing in this existence that is not truth.

 Stop this nonsense of meditation if after decades of practise you
are still
 looking for truth. 

 Every part of truth that you can ever imagine is already there.
Nothing is
 missing. 

 All the glory of this world is truth; all the misery of this world
is truth,
 too. 

 Death, suffering, ageing, ignorance are also truth. The entire world
in all
 its phases of evolution is truth in the process of expression.

 It is not necessary to give up this worldly life to gain the Kingdom of
 God. 
 This world is itself the Kingdom of God.
 -Anasuya Devi-

 There is nothing that is wrong. Everything has its place. And
everything is
 working at it´s optimum.

 But we can only see and appreciate that when we are able to face
inner and
 outer reality without defence, without denial, without escape and
without
 rebellion against what is.

 Just stop searching and open your eyes or continue to search because
also
 this searching and seemingly not finding is also truth.

 Imagine: If you would start looking for your glases or contact lenses  -
 even though they are exactly there where they are supposed to be -
on your
 nose or already on your eyes - you would only delay the time to find
them.

 You already have all the experience you need.
 You need not gather any more; rather you must go beyond experience.
 Whatever effort you make, whatever method (sadhana) you follow,
 will merely generate more experience, but will not take you beyond.
 Nor will reading books help you.
 They will enrich your mind,
 but the person you are will remain intact.
 If you expect any benefits from your search,
 material, mental or spiritual, you have missed the point.
 Truth gives no advantage.
 It gives you no higher status, no power over others,
 all you get is truth and freedom from the false.
 -Sri Nirsagadatta Maharaj-

 Enjoy the truth of the moment that is right now revealing itself to you.

 Peter

For me truth or truthfulness is more a process. It means finding out
or seeing what has been hidden, concealed. Close to this understanding
comes the Greek word aletheia = truth, exposing the concealed.

I don't like the concept absolute truth. And I feel quite suspicious
about enlightened masters, who declare they have found it. At the very
minimum I consider their understanding to be quite limited, although I
don't doubt the authenticity of their experience.

For me truth means exposing distorted or limited notions in
both the inner and outer realities. It means also finding out aspects
and structures that so far have been hidden.
These hidden structures can be found both in the objective domain and
in the subjective and they can also be energies and emotions.

When something in the subject, I, gets revealed it is moved form the
I to the realm of objects. The mind is something the I can look at
and therefore it belongs to the domain of objects.

The mind is not felt as an outer world. It is

Re: [FairfieldLife] pc recording studio home setup

No need to get a Mac these days since there are plenty of good recording 
apps for Windows.  There are two reasons musicians get Macs and that was 
in the early days the bus was easier implement audio hardware on (though 
I found Mac programming a pain in the butt) and many musicians are too 
flaky to handle anything more complicated than a Mac. :)   Even the 
defacto pro standard ProTools is available for Windows.

I use Cakewalk's Sonar myself but mainly for MIDI and also have several 
other multi-channel capable audio apps to use.   I also just updated 
Nero to version 7 and the audio software in it does Dolby 5.1 and 7.1 
which is cool to play with.

Ben has given some good recommendations for Windows programs.  Audacity 
is good but a little slow compared to some of the commercial packages.  
Cool Edit which was an affordable editor was bought by Adobe which 
turned it into a multi-channel package and priced much higher.

Good luck with your recordings!

- Bhairitu


Kenny H wrote:

Hello Group

I have a beautiful Taylor 12-string guitar (the sound transports me
when I play) and a gorgeous Martin D-18 custom guitar and I want to
lay down some multilayered tracks here at home so I can make beautiful
music with myself (smooch).

Has anyone reading here at FFLife had experience in setting up their
pc as a recording studio? I need to start really basic just so I can
lay down a rhythm track or two to practice along with and then
eventually add some lead lines. 

I'd appreciate any advice I can get about doing this.

Post to me here or beep me at kennyhassman at yahoo dot com

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is the truth?

2005-11-12 Thread Jason Spock











 "truth or truthfulness is more a process."

The reality you perceive is the truth for you

 "For me truth means exposing distorted or limited notions in both the inner and outer realities"

 There can only one reality. Rest is all Maya, illusion.

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 For me truth or truthfulness is more a process. It means finding out or seeing what has been hidden, concealed. Close to this understanding comes the Greek word "aletheia" = truth, exposing the concealed.
 I don't like the concept "absolute truth". And I feel quite suspicious about enlightened masters, who declare they have found it. At the very minimum I consider their understanding to be quite limited, although I don't doubt the authenticity of their experience.
 For me truth means exposing distorted or limited notions in both the inner and outer realities. It means also finding out aspects and structures that so far have been hidden. These hidden structures can be found both in the objective domain and in the subjective and they can also be energies and emotions.
 When something in the subject, "I", gets revealed it is moved form the "I" to the realm of objects. The mind is something the "I" can look at and therefore it belongs to the domain of objects.
 The mind is not felt as an outer world. It is a new domain appearing in humans, a self-consciousness, a recognition of inner functions and structures, that the animals don't have. Also among humans there are huge differences in how evolved and conscious this domain of the mind is.
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[FairfieldLife] Self referal term

2005-11-12 Thread anonymousff


Can someone elaborate on the Self Referral attribute of the Self.
Also do we know it to be true or is it part of the Ved belief system?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] More on Diksha

Rick Archer wrote:

From a friend:

Sounds like Indian diksha is different than American. This is SERIOUSLY
powerful stuff. Why don't you give it a try and see for yourself? These
people are sincere. There's no pushing to go to the India course. There's NO
levels. As a matter of fact they emphasize that you don't have to go to
india to get enlightened...India is if you want to GIVE diksha yourself.
Seriously Rick this is real.

Thing is, I don't challenge that letter you sent. Could be true.  But I'm
not blowing off this whole thing because of that letter...I'm too selfish.
:)

  

Shaktipat is a rather simple technique but you have to build up a lot of 
shakti before you give it out or you'll deplete your own.  Most gurus 
will not allow you to give it until they are satisfied that you are 
completely charged.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: A book you might enjoy

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Re: [FairfieldLife] More on Diksha


On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 Rick Archer wrote:

 From a friend:

 Sounds like Indian diksha is different than American. This is  
 SERIOUSLY
 powerful stuff. Why don't you give it a try and see for yourself?  
 These
 people are sincere. There's no pushing to go to the India course.  
 There's NO
 levels. As a matter of fact they emphasize that you don't have to  
 go to
 india to get enlightened...India is if you want to GIVE diksha  
 yourself.
 Seriously Rick this is real.

 Thing is, I don't challenge that letter you sent. Could be true.   
 But I'm
 not blowing off this whole thing because of that letter...I'm too  
 selfish.
 :)



 Shaktipat is a rather simple technique but you have to build up a  
 lot of
 shakti before you give it out or you'll deplete your own.  Most gurus
 will not allow you to give it until they are satisfied that you are
 completely charged.

And that's typically only the lowest level of shaktipat...Chapter six  
of the tantraloka describes all the 9 levels, and many of these  
require a certain level of realization to impart.



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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is the truth?

2005-11-12 Thread Paula Youmans
































There can only one
reality. Rest is all Maya, illusion.























The more I think about this the more I
think another possibility exists, and that is no reality.

If it is seen at allits
already being taken through its 1st filterthe seer. 

I know its a lot like the tree
falling in the woods, but if something is being seen at all hasnt it
already changed? 

Meaning everything is an illusion?











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Re: [FairfieldLife] More on Diksha

Vaj wrote:

On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

  

Rick Archer wrote:



From a friend:


Sounds like Indian diksha is different than American. This is  
SERIOUSLY
powerful stuff. Why don't you give it a try and see for yourself?  
These
people are sincere. There's no pushing to go to the India course.  
There's NO
levels. As a matter of fact they emphasize that you don't have to  
go to
india to get enlightened...India is if you want to GIVE diksha  
yourself.
Seriously Rick this is real.

Thing is, I don't challenge that letter you sent. Could be true.   
But I'm
not blowing off this whole thing because of that letter...I'm too  
selfish.
:)



  

Shaktipat is a rather simple technique but you have to build up a  
lot of
shakti before you give it out or you'll deplete your own.  Most gurus
will not allow you to give it until they are satisfied that you are
completely charged.



And that's typically only the lowest level of shaktipat...Chapter six  
of the tantraloka describes all the 9 levels, and many of these  
require a certain level of realization to impart.
  

I doubt that. Shakti is shakti.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study


On Nov 12, 2005, at 1:03 PM, authfriend wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Nov 12, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 snip
 Were those Fairfield guys, doing that in Fairfield?

 No, Pennsylvania. Although one of the get rich quick seminars
 they attended was originally in Fairfield (in the 80's). Promised to
 make you a millionaire for about 15,000 dollars.

 What about all the Web sites you claimed linked MMY's
 Do nothing, accomplish everything to get-rich-quick
 schemes, Vaj?

Like someone once opined here 'there will always be some people who  
will believe everything M. teaches until they see pictures of him  
loading dead babies with a pitchfork from a truck'. And I'd bet that  
a lot of them would believe it was actually a new knowledge being  
brought out on 'Maharishi Vedic Abortion' or something. There will  
always be these people. So tell me, why should I waste my time on  
you? Honestly, given your posts over many years, I wouldn't be  
surprised if I found you on my doorstep one day, Science of Being in  
hand and a cart of research tomes and charts in tow, ready to convert  
me a la the Jehovah's Witnesses.

I hardly am interested in wasting my time on something which--no  
matter how compelling--you wouldn't believe anyways. Really, I have  
better things to do.

I'm sure you can do a web search Judith. If not, there are courses  
taught at many community colleges.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] More on Diksha

on 11/12/05 12:14 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And that's typically only the lowest level of shaktipat...Chapter six
 of the tantraloka describes all the 9 levels, and many of these
 require a certain level of realization to impart.
  
 
 I doubt that. Shakti is shakti.

That's like saying that a gentle breeze is the same as a hurricane.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 12, 2005, at 1:03 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Nov 12, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
  snip
  Were those Fairfield guys, doing that in Fairfield?
 
  No, Pennsylvania. Although one of the get rich quick seminars
  they attended was originally in Fairfield (in the 80's). 
Promised to
  make you a millionaire for about 15,000 dollars.
 
  What about all the Web sites you claimed linked MMY's
  Do nothing, accomplish everything to get-rich-quick
  schemes, Vaj?
 
 Like someone once opined here 'there will always be some people
 who will believe everything M. teaches until they see pictures of 
 him loading dead babies with a pitchfork from a truck'. And I'd bet 
 that a lot of them would believe it was actually a new knowledge 
 being brought out on 'Maharishi Vedic Abortion' or something. There 
 will always be these people. So tell me, why should I waste my time 
 on you? Honestly, given your posts over many years, I wouldn't be  
 surprised if I found you on my doorstep one day, Science of Being 
 in hand and a cart of research tomes and charts in tow, ready to 
 convert me a la the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Idiotic, and a complete non sequitur to boot.

 I hardly am interested in wasting my time on something which--no  
 matter how compelling--you wouldn't believe anyways. Really, I 
 have better things to do.

I'm asking you to back up a claim you made.

Do you really think if you supplied a couple of
URLs to Web sites that actually did link MMY's
Do nothing and accomplish everything to get-
rich-quick schemes, as you had claimed, that I'd
refuse to believe they existed?

That's pretty silly, Vaj.

But even so, there must be others here whom
you would consider reasonable who are now 
wondering why you refuse to do such a simple
thing as supply some URLs that you claim
already to have found.

 I'm sure you can do a web search Judith. If not, there are courses  
 taught at many community colleges.

Yes, as you know, I did a search already and was
unable to locate any such sites.  That's why I'm
asking you to produce the URLs to the ones you
already claim to have found.

It's a simple request, Vaj.  You've spent more
time and effort explaining why you don't want 
to do it than it would have taken you to do in
the first place.

Now, why would that be?






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[FairfieldLife] FWD; Kalki Trusts Probed

2005-11-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Fwd, this was shared around here last week by e-mail.  I do not know 
the truth of it, but the form of the graft and corruption is an 
interesting parrallel for what may be in the TMO indian trusts.  

In listening to the Kalki videos at the meetings here, there is a 
lot of ego in the guy and about him.  Likewise with Sai Ma there is 
a lot of empire building going on and they are very theatrical 
inside it making it happen for themselves with devotee money.  Money 
corrupts, infinite money corrupts infinitely?


 News
 
 4th November, 2003
 
 Taxmen probe Kalki Bhagwan trusts
 
 He claims to be the 10th and last avatar of Lord Vishnu and has 
 whipped up quite a following in Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and 
 Karnataka. But investigations by income tax authorities have 
 revealed that the self-proclaimed 'Kalki Bhagwan' has been 
 siphoning off funds meant for public projects.
 
 A former LIC clerk-turned-godman, V. Vijaykumar alias Kalki had 
 floated about a dozen trusts. The trusts collected funds to build 
 schools and homes for the poor in Chittoor district in Andhra. But 
 queries by the income tax authorities revealed that most of the 
 trusts were managed by his family members.
 
 Moreover, within a short span of 10 years, Vijaykumar and son 
 N.K.V. Krishna have become multi-millionaires.
 
 In a recent statement to the I-T department, Krishna admitted that 
 33 vehicles were owned by him, his companies, his wife Ananda Giri 
 (a preacher in the Kalki camp) and the trusts.
 
 The I-T authorities also discovered that Kalki had 'donated' about 
 Rs 1.80 crore in 2001 to the Shri Bhagwan Seva Trust, in which his 
 son Krishna and daughter-in-law Preetha were the only trustees. Of 
 this, Kalki received Rs 60 lakh in cash at his ashrams.
 
 Huge cash gifts were also traced to private bank accounts of 
 family members. For example, Krishna had shown Rs 50 lakh as 
 'gift' from Ananda Giri in his 2000-01 assessment.
 
 When I-T officials sought a meeting with Kalki, his son told them 
 that his father did not grant interview to everybody. Sources said 
 Kalki did not respond properly to I-T notices either.
 
 These disclosures were made by the I-T department and the CBI 
 after a former follower Vishwanath Swami filed a PIL in the Madras 
 High Court.
 







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Re: [FairfieldLife] More on Diksha

Rick Archer wrote:

on 11/12/05 12:14 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

And that's typically only the lowest level of shaktipat...Chapter six
of the tantraloka describes all the 9 levels, and many of these
require a certain level of realization to impart.
 

  

I doubt that. Shakti is shakti.



That's like saying that a gentle breeze is the same as a hurricane.

  

Sure wind is wind the volume of can be different.  Certainly once one is 
able to give shaktipat one can grow in the ability.  Vaj is presuming 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

Alright, Judy, I did the search.  (That'll be $175, Vaj.  Just send it to my PO box. :)  And came up with exactly one.

Sal


On Nov 12, 2005, at 3:49 PM, authfriend wrote:

 I'm asking you to back up a claim you made.

 Do you really think if you supplied a couple of
 URLs to Web sites that actually did link MMY's
 Do nothing and accomplish everything to get-
 rich-quick schemes, as you had claimed, that I'd
 refuse to believe they existed?

 That's pretty silly, Vaj.

 But even so, there must be others here whom
 you would consider reasonable who are now 
 wondering why you refuse to do such a simple
 thing as supply some URLs that you claim
 already to have found.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Alright, Judy, I did the search.  (That'll be $175, Vaj.  Just send
 it to my PO box. :)  And came up with exactly one.

And it was...?



 
 Sal
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2005, at 3:49 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
   I'm asking you to back up a claim you made.
 
   Do you really think if you supplied a couple of
   URLs to Web sites that actually did link MMY's
   Do nothing and accomplish everything to get-
   rich-quick schemes, as you had claimed, that I'd
   refuse to believe they existed?
 
   That's pretty silly, Vaj.
 
   But even so, there must be others here whom
   you would consider reasonable who are now
   wondering why you refuse to do such a simple
   thing as supply some URLs that you claim
   already to have found.







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[FairfieldLife] SPECIAL NEWS REPORT: Field of TM Dreams - Christianity Today Magazine

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[FairfieldLife] Article- Governing From- Inside the Bunker

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Gimbel

Inside the bunker His administration has become its own republic of fear, and Bush is a prisoner to the right Sidney BlumenthalThursday November 3, 2005The Guardian
One year after his re-election President Bush governs from a bunker. "We go forward with complete confidence," he proclaimed in his second inaugural address. He urged "our youngest citizens" to see the future "in the determined faces of our soldiers", to choose between "evil" and "courage". But as he listened that day, Vice-President Dick Cheney knew the election had been secured by a cover-up.
"I would have wished nothing better," declared Patrick Fitzgerald in his press conference of October 28 announcing the indictment of I Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the vice-president's chief of staff, "that, when the subpoenas were issued in August 2004, witnesses testified then, and we would have been here in October 2004 instead of October 2005. No one would have went to jail."

The indictment documents that Cheney confirmed the identity of Valerie Plame to him. The indictment also describes a figure called "Official A", subsequently disclosed to be Karl Rove, the president's chief political adviser, who informed Libby that he had told the conservative columnist Robert Novak of Plame's status. The next day Libby conferred with Cheney on how to handle the matter; that very day, Libby revealed Plame's identity to two reporters. Then Libby falsely testified that he had learned Plame's name from reporters.
On September 30 2003 President Bush emphatically stated that he wanted anyone in his administration with information about the Plame leak to "come forward". On June 10 2004 he pledged that anyone on his staff who leaked Plame's name would be fired.
When the Libby indictment was announced, Bush and Cheney praised him as a fine public servant. Still under investigation, Rove remains in the West Wing. But Cheney knew during the presidential campaign that he had discussed with Libby how to deal with Plame. Now Bush knows that Rove had enabled Robert Novak to publish her identity. But the president's promise to fire officials is suddenly inoperative.
Libby's alleged cover-up was undertaken in the spirit of neoconservative Leninism. Any tactic is rationalised by the vanguard, which sets all policy and uses the party as its instrument. If he had testified truthfully in October 2004 the result would have consumed the final days of the campaign. His Leninist logic permitted him to protect the Republican cause, but he has tainted Bush's victory in history.
Bush took his 2004 win as a resounding mandate for a rightwing agenda. With each right turn, however, his popularity declined. Iraq acted as an accelerator of his fall. His nomination of Harriet Miers for the supreme court was an acknowledgement of his sharply narrowed political space. While the Republican masses supported him, the Leninist right staged a revolt. In Bush's cronyism and opportunism they saw his deviation. With the prosecutor's indictment imminent, Bush withdrew Miers. Broadly unpopular, he could not suffer a split right. His new nominee, federal judge Samuel Alito, a reliable sectarian, is a tribute to his bunker strategy.
Hostage to his failed fortune, Bush is a prisoner of the right. His administration has become its own republic of fear. Libby's trial will reveal the administration's political methods. Cheney, along with a host of others, will be called to testify. Whatever other calamities may befall Bush, their spectre harries him to the right. "Disunity, dissolution and vacillation" are hallmarks of "the path of conciliation", as Lenin wrote in What is to be Done. The vanguard on "the path of struggle" criticised for being "an exclusive group," must oppose any retreat proposed by the "opportunist rearguard". "We are surrounded on all sides by enemies, and we have to advance almost constantly under their fire."
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is the truth?

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Gimbel

The Truth is always in the Present; not in the past and not in thee 
future; 
The Truth is Known always in the moment.
Pay attention to the moment, it contains all knowledge of the Truth.
At the finest level of reality, of creation, and please remember:
Don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters.


-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 There can only one reality.  Rest is all Maya, illusion.
 
   _  
 
  
 
 The more I think about this the more I think another possibility 
exists, and
 that is no reality.
 
 If it is seen at all.it's already being taken through its 1st 
filter.the
 seer. 
 
 I know it's a lot like the tree falling in the woods, but if 
something is
 being seen at all hasn't it already changed?  
 
 Meaning everything is an illusion?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Diksha

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Gimbel

Recently, I was visiting Oregon, and noticed a couple of guys, 
Standing at a certain spot, on a cliff, overlooking the ocean.
They were both getting ready to jump off that cliff;
With hang-gliders, desiring to sail on the breezes;
Which appeared to be blowing gently, 300 feet above the ocean, below.
Each waited; It was fairly quiet day;
Hardly any wind was blowing...
Only a slight breeze was enough, with all that volumn and expansion;
Of air, a vast horizon, and a very high cliff;
Only a faint hint of a breeze was necessary;
To sail unabated freely, and effortlessly.


-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rick Archer wrote:
 
 on 11/12/05 12:14 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 And that's typically only the lowest level of 
shaktipat...Chapter six
 of the tantraloka describes all the 9 levels, and many of these
 require a certain level of realization to impart.
  
 
   
 
 I doubt that. Shakti is shakti.
 
 
 
 That's like saying that a gentle breeze is the same as a hurricane.
 
   
 
 Sure wind is wind the volume of can be different.  Certainly once 
one is 
 able to give shaktipat one can grow in the ability.  Vaj is 
presuming 
 the level I stated.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

http://ca-foreignbooks.books-online-store.net/case/foreignbooks/business-and-investing/general/1883669_7.html


On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:25 PM, authfriend wrote:

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:
 >
 > Alright, Judy, I did the search.  (That'll be $175, Vaj.  Just send
 > it to my PO box. :)  And came up with exactly one.

 And it was...?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Nov 11, 2005, at 10:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
 
 
  --- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  LB, your last post in this thread was truncated, so I
  couldn't include it, but I wanted to compliment you on
  your observations. As you note, science is, at its
  best, an international, public discourse. I can
  understand MIU's reluctance to hand over the raw data
  for reasons that have nothing to do with this
  discourse. All movement research is for one purpose
  only: to promote the teaching of TM/TM-Siddhis. It's
  for PR only. Those in charge, MMY, aren't interested
  in developing a coherent theory of the field effects
  of consciousness. They just want to sell TM. The MIU
  researchers won't hand over the raw data because the
  ME is very weak, almost noise, not pattern. It can
  easily be shown not to exist using alternative, and
  more traditional, statistical methods used in this
  type of research.
 
 
  You may be correct, but your evidence of this is...?
 
  Wake Up and smell the Raja's Cup. It's been in front of us all 
the
  time.
 
  How could we miss it?
 
  And if Vaj says there's been evidence in front of
  us all the time, by golly, it must be true.
 
  Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
  us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
  that link Do nothing and accomplish everything to
  get-rich-quick schemes?
 
 Right after you deposit the 175 dollars an hour research fee into 
my  
 PayPay account. A two hour retainer should be sufficient.
 
 Really, anyone who spent time in the movement and had NOT come 
across  
 people trying to hatch get-rich-quick schemes, just hasn't been 
around.
 
 I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund 
and  
 Jack Normand try to hatch. Jack even started a course on it and 
got  
 us to attend his seminar. He thought he was enlightened at the time.
 
 And they were convinced that enlightenment and wealth went hand in 
hand.


If you're a householder, why wouldn't it be that way? ENlightenment 
should mean (in my understanding) that your dharma is in harmony with 
your lifestyle, and for a householder, comfort, wealth (to some 
extent), and other signs of relative success should be obvious.

THat doesn't mean that the wealthy should be enlightened, but that 
someone who is enlightened within the householder tradition should 
be well off at least...







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

Actually The one I just sent in was Do less and accomplish more + get rich quick  But then I remembered you were talking about Do nothing and accomplish everything + get rich quick (I thought it didn't look right the second time.) So here's that one--it's the original one I found:

http://www.attracting-prosperity.com/powerful-sleep.html

On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:25 PM, authfriend wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:
 >
 > Alright, Judy, I did the search.  (That'll be $175, Vaj.  Just send
 > it to my PO box. :)  And came up with exactly one.

 And it was...?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lalitha Sahasranam posted on-line

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, clucere [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Which way does the Kamakshi Devi temple face?  Is it proper vastu?
 
 It faces east, which is traditional, but all the others face it so
 only 25% of them are proper.
 
 The largest Vishnu temple in India is in Srirangam and it faces 
south
 because it is oriented toward SriLanka.  The temple is Vishnu lying
 down watching for Vibishina, Ravana's brother from the Ramayana 
story
 who was a big devotee.
 
 I guess my point is that proper vastu may be something of an over
 simplification at times.
 
 
 

Or Vastu may not be an important consideration for those who 
constructed the temple. Most Indian musicians are NOT ghandarvan 
these days.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: pc recording studio home setup--version 2 $100!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It also occurs to me that there very nice condenser mic that goes
 right into your PC's USB port for about $79.  Then all you need is 
the
 software.  There is some free audio editing software called Audacity
 that you can get from SourceForge.com.  So you are in business for
 less than $100!

You can get interference from USB ports if they are placed wrong, or 
so I have read.


 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Kenny,
  
  I havea  setup that I use for my Vedic Mytholoogy podcast. 
Personally,
  I like using Sony Audio Studio for recording software.  It is 
readily
  available from a variety of sources and not too expensive $69.
  
  Then I suggest going to a place like MusiciansFriend.com and buy
  yourself a good condenser mic ($70 for an MXL), stand $20, and a 
mixer
  with a USB interface (Alesis for $114). and you are all set to go!
  
  Let me know if you need any help.
  
   Ben
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
   Hello Group
   
   I have a beautiful Taylor 12-string guitar (the sound 
transports me
   when I play) and a gorgeous Martin D-18 custom guitar and I 
want to
   lay down some multilayered tracks here at home so I can make 
beautiful
   music with myself (smooch).
   
   Has anyone reading here at FFLife had experience in setting up 
their
   pc as a recording studio? I need to start really basic just so 
I can
   lay down a rhythm track or two to practice along with and then
   eventually add some lead lines. 
   
   I'd appreciate any advice I can get about doing this.
   
   Post to me here or beep me at kennyhassman at yahoo dot com
   
   KH
  
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: pc recording studio home setup

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No need to get a Mac these days since there are plenty of good 
recording 
 apps for Windows.  There are two reasons musicians get Macs and 
that was 
 in the early days the bus was easier implement audio hardware on 
(though 
 I found Mac programming a pain in the butt) and many musicians are 
too 
 flaky to handle anything more complicated than a Mac. :)   Even the 
 defacto pro standard ProTools is available for Windows.
 
 I use Cakewalk's Sonar myself but mainly for MIDI and also have 
several 
 other multi-channel capable audio apps to use.   I also just 
updated 
 Nero to version 7 and the audio software in it does Dolby 5.1 and 
7.1 
 which is cool to play with.
 
 Ben has given some good recommendations for Windows programs.  
Audacity 
 is good but a little slow compared to some of the commercial 
packages.  
 Cool Edit which was an affordable editor was bought by Adobe which 
 turned it into a multi-channel package and priced much higher.
 
 Good luck with your recordings!
 

If you already have a PC, and don't want to spend money on getting a 
Mac, obviously a Mac isn't part of the answer.

However, Garageband and its big brothers (Logic Express and Logic 
Pro) are really kool music products, and Garageband comes bundled 
with every new Mac. The upgrade to the latest version of Garageband 
is part of the iLife suite for $79. That's the latest versions of  
iMovie HD, iDVD, iTune, iPhoto and Garageband.

They integrate quite well, also, which is why they're sold as a suite 
of upgrades.

BTW, Mac programming in MacOS X is very kool. John Carmack of id 
Software used the original version to create Doom. Tim Berners-Lee 
used it to create thefirst web-browser. A version of the Mac 
development software is bundled with every new Mac and the latest 
version is availableas a free download from Apple.

You can use it to develop Mac/X-WIndows GUI applications, or plain 
old UNIX CLI programs.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 http://ca-foreignbooks.books-online-store.net/case/foreignbooks/ 
 business-and-investing/general/1883669_7.html

Sal, this is a page of books from Amazon in Canada
on business and investing; it's not about a get-rich-
quick scheme.

And I was unable to find any mention of Do nothing and
accomplish everything anywhere on the page.

Can you say why you thought this had something to do
with Vaj's claim that Do nothing and accomplish
everything was linked on the Web to get-rich-quick
schemes?

 
 
 On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:25 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
   
Alright, Judy, I did the search.  (That'll be $175, Vaj.  Just 
send
it to my PO box. :)  And came up with exactly one.
 
   And it was...?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Self referal term

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 Can someone elaborate on the Self Referral attribute of the Self.
 Also do we know it to be true or is it part of the Ved belief system?
 ( I understand it but when I was trying to explain to someone 
   I got stuck :) )


The only attribute the Self really has is Self Referral (awareness).





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[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Diksha

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 on 11/12/05 12:14 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  And that's typically only the lowest level of shaktipat...Chapter 
six
  of the tantraloka describes all the 9 levels, and many of these
  require a certain level of realization to impart.
   
  
  I doubt that. Shakti is shakti.
 
 That's like saying that a gentle breeze is the same as a hurricane.



Well, yeah, like duh.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

On Nov 12, 2005, at 6:26 PM, authfriend wrote:

 Sal, this is a page of books from Amazon in Canada
 on business and investing; it's not about a get-rich-
 quick scheme.

Oh.  Well, at least I get an A for effort, if nothing else.
 And I was unable to find any mention of Do nothing and
 accomplish everything anywhere on the page.

 Can you say why you thought this had something to do
 with Vaj's claim that Do nothing and accomplish
 everything was linked on the Web to get-rich-quick
 schemes?

See my next message.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SPECIAL NEWS REPORT: Field of TM Dreams - Christianity Today Magazine

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/001/11.74.html


And old article. Would that the predictions had been accurate 
concerning university enrollment, etc.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

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 Actually The one I just sent in was Do less and accomplish more + 
 get rich quick

Gee, Sal, even with Do less... this doesn't
qualify; it's not a get-rich-quick scheme at
all but a $27.95 (Canadian) book on time
management.

  But then I remembered you were talking about Do 
 nothing and accomplish everything + get rich quick (I thought it 
 didn't look right the second time.) So here's that one--it's the 
 original one I found:
 
 http://www.attracting-prosperity.com/powerful-sleep.html

This is the book by TM teacher Fred Gratzon I
described when I first checked out Vaj's claim
on the Web.  Sorry, but it isn't a get-rich-quick
scheme either.

Here's one testimonial that describes it:

-
Having read the Lazy Way to Success, I feel my definition of achiving 
success has changed quite dramatically. I feel that book has made me 
think differently about my approach to work. Today, I think that to 
have fun at work, to be passionate about what I do, and to carefully 
think before I do, is more important than having my nose to the 
grindstone.

I would recommend this book to anyone who wishes to achieve success 
in life and despite the title of this book, is willing to work at it, 
of course in the right way. The book emphasises approach over sheer 
hard work. The book makes one think about one's priorities in life. 
The book has transformed my daily routine  in fact I no longer go to 
work  for the sake of work. I go to the office to bring value to the 
lives of my co-workers, to help them find their true calling in life. 
The book is a noble journey  a pilgrimage to success.
--

The book appears to be more about *fulfillment*
than monetary success per se, and it certainly
isn't a get-rich-quick scheme of the type Vaj
has been talking about.

So he must have had some other Web sites in mind.

Or not, as the case may be.







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[FairfieldLife] An international government conspiracy? Yep.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com is one of my favorite websites. Josh 
Marshall has been tracking the Plame CIA-outing issue since it first 
started and has done quite a bit of investigative reporting concerning 
it. He's been publishing a series of online articles and commentaries 
on just how far-reaching the background issue (the forged Niger 
documents that prompted AmbassadorWilson's trip to Niger) really is. It 
has tentacles reaching into the highest levels of both the US and 
Italian governments. It's not just about bad intel, or political 
payback - it was a genuine international conspiracy to take us (the 
entire world) into war, though he doesn't put in it those terms.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: An international government conspiracy? Yep.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's not just about bad intel, or political 
 payback - it was a genuine international conspiracy to take us (the 
 entire world) into war, though he doesn't put in it those terms.


Here's his latest comment:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com

(November 11, 2005 -- 12:17 PM EDT)

Very interesting news out of Italy this morning, and news which 
appears to confirm a theory advanced recently by a poster at 
theleftcoaster.com (big coup for him, about which I'll explain more 
later). As you know, I've reported that the second report from 
Italian intelligence to the CIA about the Niger-Iraq story, the 
report in February of 2002, was a text transcription of what would 
later turn out to be one of the forged documents. 

But there's one more small detail, reported this morning in La 
Repubblica. The report sent over from Italy removed the out-of-date 
names (one of the key reasons they were spotted later as forgeries) 
and replaced them with the correct names. In other words, there seems 
to have been a conscious effort to cover up the fact that the 
documents were bogus, to clean them up, as it were.

This raises a number of questions, which I'll try to address in a 
subsequent post. I'm running between meetings this morning. But for 
now one more detail.

La Repubblica has confirmed that three days after SISMI sent its 
original report to the CIA on October 15th, 2001, Nicolo Pollari 
himself followed up with another report on October 18th. This follow-
up was in response to a CIA query about the quality of the sourcing 
behind the report on the 15th. 

Pollari told the CIA that the report was quite credible and that the 
information originated with a woman working for SISMI in the Niger 
Embassy in Rome.

More soon on what this all means. 

-- Josh Marshall 











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[FairfieldLife] 2012 - Is Something Big Coming?

2005-11-12 Thread Blue Star




From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/






A.D. 2012 
Is Something Big Coming? 
 
"A birthing planet vibrating at a lower tone than evolving Earth is preparing itself to receive beings who prefer to embrace greed and power, those who desire to control, possess and destroy that which is not rightfully theirs. The awaiting planet is far from Earth, but it is not altogether unlike Earth."
Arcturian Songs of the Masters of LightPatricia L. Pereira

There have been many prophesies for us to think about over the ages. Some have materialized while others have not.
All prophecy is fluid and changeable. The future is not set in stone. The reason is simple. We create our own reality through our collective thinking (mass consciousness). What a prophet "sees" is one of the probable outcomes of our future. If we don't like what the prophet has to say, we have the power to change it.
Cosmic cycles are nothing new to our ancestors and are a part of the lore and history of many ancient civilizations. For example, the Mayans studied them with a passion and they formed the basis of their sky religion.
This is also the end of the 2160-year Age of Pisces, the beginning of Aquarius, the close of the Mesoamerican fifth world and the ending of the Kali Yuga of the Hindus. The sacred scriptures of the Indian Vedas describe cycles of creation spanning millions of years in the past including civilizations that flourished and those that decayed and perished.
The momentous crossroads in cosmic time we are fast approaching at 2012 has been prophesized by the Hopis, the Mayans, the Aztecs and many others. Some of that information is briefly summarized below. 
In addition, I've also excerpted below fifteen different sources channeled transmissions that I take seriously. All are saying the same basic thing. And I find it hard to ignore.
Here is the information that has influenced my thinking...
(snipped here.) for the entire compilation, see :







http://www.fromthestars.com/page159.html


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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2012 - Is Something Big Coming?

2005-11-12 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Blue Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 From:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/
 
 
 A.D. 2012 
 Is Something Big Coming? 
  
 
 A birthing planet vibrating at a lower tone than evolving Earth 
is preparing itself to receive beings who prefer to embrace greed 
and power, those who desire to control, possess and destroy that 
which is not rightfully theirs. The awaiting planet is far from 
Earth, but it is not altogether unlike Earth.  
 
 Arcturian Songs of the Masters of Light
 Patricia L. Pereira
 
  
 
 There have been many prophesies for us to think about over the 
ages. Some have materialized while others have not. 
 
 All prophecy is fluid and changeable. The future is not set in 
stone. The reason is simple. We create our own reality through our 
collective thinking (mass consciousness). What a prophet sees is 
one of the probable outcomes of our future. If we don't like what 
the prophet has to say, we have the power to change it.
 
 Cosmic cycles are nothing new to our ancestors and are a part of 
the lore and history of many ancient civilizations. For example, the 
Mayans studied them with a passion and they formed the basis of 
their sky religion. 
 
 This is also the end of the 2160-year Age of Pisces, the beginning 
of Aquarius, the close of the Mesoamerican fifth world and the 
ending of the Kali Yuga of the Hindus. The sacred scriptures of the 
Indian Vedas describe cycles of creation spanning millions of years 
in the past including civilizations that flourished and those that 
decayed and perished. 
 
 The momentous crossroads in cosmic time we are fast approaching at 
2012 has been prophesized by the Hopis, the Mayans, the Aztecs and 
many others. Some of that information is briefly summarized below.  
 
 In addition, I've also excerpted below fifteen different sources 
channeled transmissions that I take seriously. All are saying the 
same basic thing. And I find it hard to ignore. 
 
 Here is the information that has influenced my thinking... 
 
 (snipped here.) for the entire compilation, see :
 
  
 http://www.fromthestars.com/page159.html
 
  

Interesting stuff, but as I read it I realized that in order to give 
it credence, I have to buy into the idea that we on Earth have 
somehow lost our way, and a great cataclysmic cleansing is due. And 
I don't buy it. Aside from the news organizations primarily focusing 
on failures and conflicts, the world is not in such a bad state. 

Does this mean we should not continue to be responsible stewards of 
this planet? Yes, and that challenges in that regard are pretty much 
continuous, due to the speed of life our technologies have brought  
about.

But I for one don't buy into the idea that we are all headed to hell 
in a hand basket, so to speak. Rather I ascribe that mindset to 
those that project a negative inner awareness, outwards.

Balance, vigilance and responsibility are all important traits to 
develop for ourselves, and our world. Let us keep our attention on 
that, vs. fearing for tomorrow.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

ROFL.  Well, I guess if anyone should know about doing nothing and getting rich, it's him.  How he's able to live the way he does after having run so many businesses into the ground is a mystery for sure.

Sal


On Nov 12, 2005, at 6:47 PM, authfriend wrote:

 This is the book by TM teacher Fred Gratzon I
 described when I first checked out Vaj's claim
 on the Web.  Sorry, but it isn't a get-rich-quick
 scheme either.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-12 Thread akasha_108

authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 why you refuse to do such a simple
 thing as supply some URLs that you claim
 already to have found.
 

And this is important, or even interesting, because ?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...

on 11/12/05 9:33 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To think that the primary technique of TM would EVER take a back seat
 to Haglin's pseudo-scientific Siddhi's program is amazing to me.

Why are you attributing ownership or authorship of the Sidhi program to
Hagelin? Hagelin wasn't a major player in the movement when Maharishi came
out with the sidhi program. Sounds to me like you're trying to shift blame
away from Maharishi. Common mistake. He calls the shots and always has. Deal
with it.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
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 on 11/12/05 9:33 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  To think that the primary technique of TM would EVER take a back 
seat
  to Haglin's pseudo-scientific Siddhi's program is amazing to me.
 
 Why are you attributing ownership or authorship of the Sidhi 
program to
 Hagelin? Hagelin wasn't a major player in the movement when 
Maharishi came
 out with the sidhi program. Sounds to me like you're trying to 
shift blame
 away from Maharishi. Common mistake. He calls the shots and always 
has. Deal
 with it.

I'm implying that MMY has swallowed Hagelin's research as 'proof'!  I 
think the jury is still out as to the relative numbers required to 
create such an effect. I realize that it was at the suggestion 
of 'another' yogi (apparently) that MMY came out with this totally 
premature yogic flying, etc. MMY really thinks you only need the 
square root of 1% of the population (yada, yada) to shift trends in 
the world...BASED ON HAGELIN'S RESEARCH! Who's the Yogi and who's the 
chela now???  Hummm, think about it, it explains everything!







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Self referal term

2005-11-12 Thread Peter



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 Can someone elaborate on the Self Referral attribute
 of the Self.
 Also do we know it to be true or is it part of the
 Ved belief system?
 ( I understand it but when I was trying to explain
 to someone 
   I got stuck :) )


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...

on 11/12/05 10:56 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 on 11/12/05 9:33 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 To think that the primary technique of TM would EVER take a back
 seat
 to Haglin's pseudo-scientific Siddhi's program is amazing to me.
 
 Why are you attributing ownership or authorship of the Sidhi
 program to
 Hagelin? Hagelin wasn't a major player in the movement when
 Maharishi came
 out with the sidhi program. Sounds to me like you're trying to
 shift blame
 away from Maharishi. Common mistake. He calls the shots and always
 has. Deal
 with it.
 
 I'm implying that MMY has swallowed Hagelin's research as 'proof'!  I
 think the jury is still out as to the relative numbers required to
 create such an effect. I realize that it was at the suggestion
 of 'another' yogi (apparently) that MMY came out with this totally
 premature yogic flying, etc. MMY really thinks you only need the
 square root of 1% of the population (yada, yada) to shift trends in
 the world...BASED ON HAGELIN'S RESEARCH! Who's the Yogi and who's the
 chela now???  Hummm, think about it, it explains everything!

The way I heard the story, it was the Shankaracharya, or the guy MMY was
propping up as the Shankaracharya (I can't begin to keep the details of that
whole mess straight) who suggested to MMY, during a quick trip to India
during the Fiuggi course, that he offer something more to the Westerners. So
Maharishi pulled out a copy of the Yoga Sutras and began experimenting on
half a dozen of the M-group types around him (I got this account from one of
them). The sidhis didn't come out until 1977. The 1% effect came out when
Domash was reigning physicist in 1974. There was a campaign in the UK in
which one of the slogans was you can be one of the 99 if you can get one of
your friends to be the one. Square root of 1% came out soon after the
sidhis, and Domash or Hagelin was physicist at that point. It was still
Domash until about 1980. Anyway, I think the theory preceded the research.
In other words, the theory of 1% or square root of 1% was bandied about
before any societal testing was done. And Maharishi spent countless hours
discussing this and lecturing about it. It's not like it was foisted on him
by cunning physicists. As always, he was calling the shots. He was tickled
pink to get a theory that would absolve him from having to get 10% of the
world's population meditating, or even 1%. Anyway, I don't think this
particular point has much to do with the failure of the movement. Although
the advent of the sidhis sure scared off a lot of respectable folks who were
beginning to take it seriously.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip

 The way I heard the story, it was the Shankaracharya, or the guy 
MMY was
 propping up as the Shankaracharya (I can't begin to keep the 
details of that
 whole mess straight) who suggested to MMY, during a quick trip to 
India
 during the Fiuggi course, that he offer something more to the 
Westerners. So
 Maharishi pulled out a copy of the Yoga Sutras and began 
experimenting on
 half a dozen of the M-group types around him (I got this account 
from one of
 them). The sidhis didn't come out until 1977. The 1% effect came 
out when
 Domash was reigning physicist in 1974. There was a campaign in the 
UK in
 which one of the slogans was you can be one of the 99 if you can 
get one of
 your friends to be the one. Square root of 1% came out soon after 
the
 sidhis, and Domash or Hagelin was physicist at that point. It was 
still
 Domash until about 1980. Anyway, I think the theory preceded the 
research.
 In other words, the theory of 1% or square root of 1% was bandied 
about
 before any societal testing was done. And Maharishi spent countless 
hours
 discussing this and lecturing about it. It's not like it was 
foisted on him
 by cunning physicists. As always, he was calling the shots. He was 
tickled
 pink to get a theory that would absolve him from having to get 10% 
of the
 world's population meditating, or even 1%. Anyway, I don't think 
this
 particular point has much to do with the failure of the movement. 
Although
 the advent of the sidhis sure scared off a lot of respectable folks 
who were
 beginning to take it seriously.

Thanks Rick, for the History lesson, I needed it. At any rate, it 
really 
supports my contention that MMY has rested the entire welfare of the 
TMorg's success on these bogus studies!! It's psuedo-science, it 
hasn't been proven satisfactorily. Remember..thru the window of 
science.  We might as well replace Guru Dev's picture with that of 
the greatest scientest of our age, the great John Hagelin!!  MMY's 
biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's program!







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[FairfieldLife] Christ cancels karma

2005-11-12 Thread shempmcgurk

A sign outside a church that I saw this week in Mesa, Arizona.






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[FairfieldLife] Tmorg replacing Guru Dev's picture with that of Dr. John Hagelin.

Might as wellthey bow down to the 'research'!!!   Research has 
become God! We know God because of the research, don't cha know, not 
because we experience him! And Maharishi, himself, has become Hagelins 
chela/desciple! Jai Guru Hagelin, Jai Guru Hagelin..





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ cancels karma

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 A sign outside a church that I saw this week in Mesa, Arizona.

As Charlie use to say, Christ was a 'trouble shooter' of sorts. He came 
to remove a roadblock in evolution (and took on the sins of 
the 'World'). But for most of use, we still have to go through the 
school of karma and learn the lessons of life, the sign is nothing but 
wishful thinking...Hey, hey Shemp!!!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mahesh Kozlowski Effect, was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

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 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  why you refuse to do such a simple
  thing as supply some URLs that you claim
  already to have found.
 
 And this is important, or even interesting, because ?

Oh, if blatant dishonesty and hypocrisy are of
no concern to you, I guess it wouldn't be.






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[FairfieldLife] instead of Vedaland ... Nature is Supporting this ...

2005-11-12 Thread Brahman

The newly opened AksharDham Temple in New Delhi, is truly a wonder and 
expects to be India's number one religious tourist destination. It 
only cost 40 million US dollars to build! 

Maharishi had a similar, good idea called Vedaland, but as usual, that 
was just all talk and no manifesting. Of course, nature abhors a 
vacuum, and so this other Hindu sect (BAPS) got the job done. So, no 
need to be disappointed any longer, Nature has taken care of things, 
even without the TMO!

see overview news article at:
   http://www.hinduismtoday.com/hpi/2005/11/12.shtml#1

see amazing pics inside the new temple, at their website:
   http://akshardham.com
lots of pics all over, be sure to click the links!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  on 11/12/05 9:33 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   To think that the primary technique of TM would EVER take a 
back 
 seat
   to Haglin's pseudo-scientific Siddhi's program is amazing to me.
  
  Why are you attributing ownership or authorship of the Sidhi 
 program to
  Hagelin? Hagelin wasn't a major player in the movement when 
 Maharishi came
  out with the sidhi program. Sounds to me like you're trying to 
 shift blame
  away from Maharishi. Common mistake. He calls the shots and 
always 
 has. Deal
  with it.
 
 I'm implying that MMY has swallowed Hagelin's research as 'proof'!  
I 
 think the jury is still out as to the relative numbers required to 
 create such an effect. I realize that it was at the suggestion 
 of 'another' yogi (apparently) that MMY came out with this totally 
 premature yogic flying, etc. MMY really thinks you only need the 
 square root of 1% of the population (yada, yada) to shift trends in 
 the world...BASED ON HAGELIN'S RESEARCH! Who's the Yogi and who's 
the 
 chela now???  Hummm, think about it, it explains everything!



Heh. Hagelin was the LAST researcher onthe ME not the first.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
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  The way I heard the story, it was the Shankaracharya, or the guy 
 MMY was
  propping up as the Shankaracharya (I can't begin to keep the 
 details of that
  whole mess straight) who suggested to MMY, during a quick trip to 
 India
  during the Fiuggi course, that he offer something more to the 
 Westerners. So
  Maharishi pulled out a copy of the Yoga Sutras and began 
 experimenting on
  half a dozen of the M-group types around him (I got this account 
 from one of
  them). The sidhis didn't come out until 1977. The 1% effect came 
 out when
  Domash was reigning physicist in 1974. There was a campaign in 
the 
 UK in
  which one of the slogans was you can be one of the 99 if you can 
 get one of
  your friends to be the one. Square root of 1% came out soon 
after 
 the
  sidhis, and Domash or Hagelin was physicist at that point. It was 
 still
  Domash until about 1980. Anyway, I think the theory preceded the 
 research.
  In other words, the theory of 1% or square root of 1% was bandied 
 about
  before any societal testing was done. And Maharishi spent 
countless 
 hours
  discussing this and lecturing about it. It's not like it was 
 foisted on him
  by cunning physicists. As always, he was calling the shots. He 
was 
 tickled
  pink to get a theory that would absolve him from having to get 
10% 
 of the
  world's population meditating, or even 1%. Anyway, I don't think 
 this
  particular point has much to do with the failure of the movement. 
 Although
  the advent of the sidhis sure scared off a lot of respectable 
folks 
 who were
  beginning to take it seriously.
 
 Thanks Rick, for the History lesson, I needed it. At any rate, it 
 really 
 supports my contention that MMY has rested the entire welfare of 
the 
 TMorg's success on these bogus studies!! It's psuedo-science, it 
 hasn't been proven satisfactorily. Remember..thru the window of 
 science.  We might as well replace Guru Dev's picture with that of 
 the greatest scientest of our age, the great John Hagelin!!  MMY's 
 biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's program!



Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of 
course...





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