[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
another look at girish varma: http://excellenceinaction.globalgoodnews.com/06-aug/india3.html shempmcgurk wrote: Is this ... http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf ... the same guy as this: http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu If so, he's one creepy bastard! I think he fashions himself a Maharishi and can't wait for his uncle to die so that he can take a shot at sitting on the deer skin. Anyone getting a similar vibe?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like some dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture sans the picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a poster here on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just projection. If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), yeah, someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move on, or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada. I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And why shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is a boon from the Gods. Those who object to the money and all that are the same people who would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the dollars. I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating. He will enjoy all these material comforts in this life, that's his good karma. But lead the Movement in the future ? Me thinks not...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The 4 Varna System, Duty and not birth
And every one of the uncaged evil doers believes in God, believes that God is right there omnipresently, knows intimately the workings of their minds, and they feel proud of themselves like right-hand angels. Caste system, as if! God's tried every system, and the same thing happens everytime. Tweaking, spinning, obfuscating, diverting, bullying, extorting, and on and on it goes until the system is an instrument through which a tsunami of black karma can flow. If it ain't Kali Yuga, this is enough for me! Edg Well said !
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting
Morning I need to warn you all now I cannot snip as I truly cannot figure out how to do that on this program yet:) I apologize for any inconvenience - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting On May 4, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Incidentally, Buggy’s situation, as a blind person, is a good reason for all of us snipping. If he’s using a program which reads emails aloud, then if we don’t snip, he has to listen to many minutes of junk to get to the new material embedded in it. Which oftentimes turns out to be junk as well, so maybe the non-trimmers are doing Buggy a favor, albeit inadvertently. :) Sal -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 4/29/2007 6:30 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting
Buggy, Welcome to the group! Howzbout ya present us with a blurb about yourself? And, er, what kind of buggy should we be thinking of ya over here? Baby? Kookoo? Pissy? Insectoid? Flawed? Infested? Shay? Bugs Bunny? Wood Critter? Please don't say all the above! My mother was blind, so yeah gang, put your comments on the top of the emails! Hell, even us sighted folks hate scrolling down for 30 seconds only to find a two word (Yo Adrian!) response. Buggy, if you're the shay type, keep your whip handy. There's highwaymen, yapping dogs, and saints here, so you've been warned. Yappy Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning I need to warn you all now I cannot snip as I truly cannot figure out how to do that on this program yet:) I apologize for any inconvenience - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting On May 4, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Incidentally, Buggy's situation, as a blind person, is a good reason for all of us snipping. If he's using a program which reads emails aloud, then if we don't snip, he has to listen to many minutes of junk to get to the new material embedded in it. Which oftentimes turns out to be junk as well, so maybe the non-trimmers are doing Buggy a favor, albeit inadvertently. :) Sal -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 4/29/2007 6:30 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale of Two Cows
You buy as many cows as you want. You milk westerners. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INDIAN CORPORATION You have two cows. Indian bureaucracy makes it impossible to open a business and sell milk. You emigrate. You become enormously successful like all Indians do once they leave India. You buy as many cows as you want. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Midwesterner's political Primer DEMOCRATIC You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. Barbra Streisand sings for you. REPUBLICAN You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So? SOCIALIST You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor. You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow. COMMUNIST You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk. You wait in line for hours to get it. It is expensive and sour. CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows. BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE You have two cows. Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain. AMERICAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one. You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses. Your stock goes up. FRENCH CORPORATION You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows. You go to lunch and drink wine. Life is good. JAPANESE CORPORATION You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains. Most are at the top of their class at cow school. GERMAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour. Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year. ITALIAN CORPORATION You have two cows but you don't know where they are. While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman. You break for lunch. Life is good. RUSSIAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You have some vodka. You count them and learn you have five cows. You have some more vodka. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have. TALIBAN CORPORATION You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are two. You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts. You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons. IRAQI CORPORATION You have two cows. They go into hiding. They send audio tapes of their mooing. POLISH CORPORATION You have two bulls. Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them. BELGIAN CORPORATION You have one cow. The cow is schizophrenic. Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish. The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow. The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk. The cow asks permission to be cut in half. The cow dies happy. FLORIDA CORPORATION You have a black cow and a brown cow. Everyone votes for the best looking one. Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the black one. Some people vote for both. Some people vote for neither. Some people can't figure out how to vote at all. Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow. CALIFORNIA CORPORATION You have millions of cows. They make real California cheese. Only five speak English. Most are illegal. Arnold likes the ones with the big udders. - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links === message truncated === No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 2007, at 8:27 AM, new.morning wrote: What I find interesting is that you have these two people -- Curtis and Judy -- each of whom have been doing TM regularly for the past 35 years and yet one has a totally negative personality and the other has a totally positive personality. Isn't it fascinating how TM can be done by people of all sorts of political bents, world views, and attitudes and yet the light of consciousness shines through in one and hardly manifests in the other. Yet both meditate! I guess consciousness works in strange and wonderful ways and...uh, what's that you say? WHAT? You're saying Curtis does NOT practise TM? What? You say he hasn't done TM regularly in more than 15 years? Really? Gosh. Well, in the immortal words of Emily Litella: never mind. Its even more facsinating that an observer who has been meditating a similar amount of time could see all things in such black and white absolutist terms. A view that Judy is all negative and Curtis is all positive is quite a belly-laugh. What's even funnier is that Shemp apparently believes he can see the light of consciousness shining through. Actually he didn't say which he thought was the positive and which the negative one (I'm assuming this was deliberate). Your view of which had to be which is pretty telling. Actually it would have been difficult for Shemp to have made it any clearer without actually saying which he thought was which, so it isn't telling at all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
This is just an *extraordinary* find. The parts of the mural shown in the two photos that have been released so far are glorious, incredibly graceful. Besides the one at Vaj's BBC link (be sure to click to see the enlarged detail), there's another photo in the Times this morning: http://tinyurl.com/33gkvj The cave in which they were found is part of a complex way up on a cliff; they had to use mountain- climbing equipment to get to it. How on earth did the *Buddhists* get there back in the 12th century?? The archeologists think the cave complex had been used as a teaching center. Apparently the cave had been used at one point by a snow leopard; they found its paw prints on the floor of the cave. A local peasant clued them in. He'd apparently gotten into the cave at one point when he was a kid. Just remarkable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find   The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north- central region.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 4, 2007, at 8:27 AM, new.morning wrote: What I find interesting is that you have these two people -- Curtis and Judy -- each of whom have been doing TM regularly for the past 35 years and yet one has a totally negative personality and the other has a totally positive personality. Isn't it fascinating how TM can be done by people of all sorts of political bents, world views, and attitudes and yet the light of consciousness shines through in one and hardly manifests in the other. Yet both meditate! I guess consciousness works in strange and wonderful ways and...uh, what's that you say? WHAT? You're saying Curtis does NOT practise TM? What? You say he hasn't done TM regularly in more than 15 years? Really? Gosh. Well, in the immortal words of Emily Litella: never mind. Its even more facsinating that an observer who has been meditating a similar amount of time could see all things in such black and white absolutist terms. A view that Judy is all negative and Curtis is all positive is quite a belly-laugh. What's even funnier is that Shemp apparently believes he can see the light of consciousness shining through. Actually he didn't say which he thought was the positive and which the negative one (I'm assuming this was deliberate). Your view of which had to be which is pretty telling. Actually it would have been difficult for Shemp to have made it any clearer without actually saying which he thought was which, so it isn't telling at all. Even a chimpanzee from Mars on his first vist to earth could pretty quickly figure out how Shemp feels about Judy. That Shemp's views -- both inherent and explicit in hundreds of past posts -- could be a mystery to some is, well, telling.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buggy, if you're the shay type, keep your whip handy. There's highwaymen, yapping dogs, and saints here, so you've been warned. LOL. Welcome, Buggy. By the way, how did your software translate the word before I said, Welcome, Buggy? I spelled out the letters L, O, and L, which is a well-known Internet acronym for Laughing Out Loud. I really would be interested in learning how your software reads it, and tries to pronounce it aloud. Heck, I'd be interested in hearing more about the software, period. [ Note to Rick: It might be nice to repost the monthly FAQ about common FFL acronyms, so that Bug could let us know which ones are pronounced in an understandable way and which are not. ] What I am laughing out loud about, Bug, is Edg's description of Fairfield Life. Ne pretty much nails it. This forum really is a strange and interesting amalgam of yapping highwayman saints, a kind of cyberspace Mos Eisley Cantina. Welcome. Pull up a stool and tell us a little about yourself, and what drew you here. Oh...one more thing. Let the Wookie win. :-) [ Smiley face above, to indicate attempted humor. How did the software pronounce that? Did it laugh? ]
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who knows? I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like some dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture sans the picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a poster here on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just projection. I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is innoculous. But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him beside a photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide-eyed Western cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most definitely creepy and Ghoulish. If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), yeah, someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move on, or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada. What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, the one where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like Maharishi, is sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev painting behind him? Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of a guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am interested in meeting...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:14 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting [ Note to Rick: It might be nice to repost the monthly FAQ about common FFL acronyms, so that Bug could let us know which ones are pronounced in an understandable way and which are not. ] He was sent that automatically when he joined.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who knows? I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like some dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture sans the picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a poster here on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just projection. I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is innoculous. But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him beside a photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide-eyed Western cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most definitely creepy and Ghoulish. If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), yeah, someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move on, or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada. What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, the one where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like Maharishi, is sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev painting behind him? Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of a guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am interested in meeting... Then why did you post on this subject in the first place? You used up one of your precious 5 posts on a subject you have zero interest in?
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like some dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture sans the picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a poster here on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just projection. If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), yeah, someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move on, or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada. I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And why shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is a boon from the Gods. Those who object to the money and all that are the same people who would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the dollars. I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating. Yep, worldly money good, holy money bad. What's up with that? There's a great excerpt that bob brigante posted recently from Guru Dev where he talks about the uselessness of the unmanifest aspect of God. So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass money is bad is a strange perspective to say the least.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who knows? I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like some dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture sans the picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a poster here on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just projection. I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is innoculous. But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him beside a photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide- eyed Western cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most definitely creepy and Ghoulish. If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), yeah, someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move on, or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada. What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, the one where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like Maharishi, is sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev painting behind him? Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of a guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am interested in meeting... Then why did you post on this subject in the first place? You used up one of your precious 5 posts on a subject you have zero interest in? The subject at the time wasn't Girish per se, rather it was that this guy was creepy or something, and I didn't see any creepiness looking at his face, and thought it was the association with Maharishi that was driving the perception of creepiness. I wasn't interested in Girish then either, just the possibility of a projected creepiness of him, due to his association with Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north-central region. This is clearly a future Buddhist Movie Of The Week. I mean, it's got Indiana Jones written all over it. One of the team members has climbed Everest 7 times, and says that this experience is cooler. There are probably lawyers in Hollywood who are trying to option the story for their production companies as we speak. Not that that's a bad thing. :-) Hey!, I'd *love* to see the movie of discovering this cave. A good film crew would build the mystery slowly, as it built for the finders, and then they'd let them see the Buddha paintings at the very end, and linger over them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find   The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north-central region. I am just curious why they date the paintings just back to the 12th century? I am thinking they could be much older.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find   The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north- central region. I am just curious why they date the paintings just back to the 12th century? I am thinking they could be much older. At this point, I'd guess, it's stylistic, what other 12th century Buddhist paintings looked like. They may eventually do scientific testing of some sort, but I doubt they've gotten to that yet (if they had, they'd be more definite about the dating). Notice that the story as back *at least* to the 12th century, which seems to indicate they also think the paintings could be older. I wish there were more on the Web about the find! They should create a Web site with lotsa photos and detailed information.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale of Two Cows
Friend, Have you forgotten, The West Looted, Ravaged and Milked the Eastern World for over 300 years.?? gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 06:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale of Two Cows You milk westerners. --- ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ netscape. net wrote: INDIAN CORPORATION You have two cows. Indian bureaucracy makes it impossible to open a business and sell milk. You emigrate. You become enormously successful like all Indians do once they leave India. You buy as many cows as you want. --- Jason Spock jedi_spock@ ... wrote: A Midwesterner' s political Primer DEMOCRATIC You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. Barbra Streisand sings for you. REPUBLICAN You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So? SOCIALIST You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor. You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow. COMMUNIST You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk. You wait in line for hours to get it. It is expensive and sour. CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows. BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE You have two cows. Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain. AMERICAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one. You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses. Your stock goes up. FRENCH CORPORATION You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows. You go to lunch and drink wine. Life is good. JAPANESE CORPORATION You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains. Most are at the top of their class at cow school. GERMAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour. Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year. ITALIAN CORPORATION You have two cows but you don't know where they are. While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman. You break for lunch. Life is good. RUSSIAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You have some vodka. You count them and learn you have five cows. You have some more vodka. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have. TALIBAN CORPORATION You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are two. You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts. You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons. IRAQI CORPORATION You have two cows. They go into hiding. They send audio tapes of their mooing. POLISH CORPORATION You have two bulls. Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them. BELGIAN CORPORATION You have one cow. The cow is schizophrenic. Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish. The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow. The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk. The cow asks permission to be cut in half. The cow dies happy. FLORIDA CORPORATION You have a black cow and a brown cow. Everyone votes for the best looking one. Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the black one. Some people vote for both. Some people vote for neither. Some people can't figure out how to vote at all. Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow. CALIFORNIA CORPORATION You have millions of cows. They make real California cheese. Only five speak English. Most are illegal. Arnold likes the ones with the big udders. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
Tell us something about Tien Tai. Yes, the body-mind is a bunch of 'components'. But the mind does NOT trans-migrate or reincarnate. It's your astral body which is a bundle of Vibrations and Latent tendencies which re-incarnate and which is what you call your soul. The Notion of 'Past lives' is something that is based upon the various bodies you choose to manifest yourself. Past lives is from the material, biological angle. From the Astral, Vibratory Plane, past-lives are aggregates of the relative self continually changing. Both are correct. So, I don't see much of a difference between the Hindu and Buddhist World-View regarding this aspect. qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 19:23:41 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from? ---Comment below: ...that Hinduism is the only religion that reflects Nature to it's fullest possible extent. Actually, Buddhism is more consistent with the most up-to-date hypotheses concerning Cosmology - i.e. the origins of the universe itself; along with speculations on the major unanswered questions. Briefly, the universe appears to be holographic; and Buddhism had the rudiments of holography in the works of Tien Tai. Thus, Buddhist cosmology was about 1500 years ahead of modern hypotheses. In regard to the nature of the relative self; I regard Buddhism as being superior to Hinduism on the basis of my observations on the body/mind; namely, the body/mind is a bunch components rather than a reincarnating Soul. Thus, from one incarnation to the next, the relative self is continually changing and it would not be correct to say that one had past lives. (the past lives were simply aggregates of components, some of which carry over into the present.) The part of the mind/brain which records the latent memories is (in itself) just another component. In regard to ethics, Buddhism attempts to explain this by intially, fusing the concept with the Laws of Karma and Dharma. Co Jason Spock jedi_spock@ ... wrote: Sorry for the delayed response. I agree with you. MMY's version certainly has more depth. True religion should reflect Nature. Hinduism is the only religion that reflects Nature to it's fullest possible extent. The concept of Ethics is Universal. It does not change with time. Unfortunately the Indian Gov't does NOT give any importance or seriousness to the teaching of Ethics in Indian schools. Also no importance is given to Hygiene and sanitation. Both subjects should be taught in all schools all over the World. - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)
I downloaded this film some time ago, but never got around to watching it until last night. I think that subconsciously I was waiting to watch it near the area in which it was filmed, and in which the story takes place. It's Spain, 1944. The revolution is over, and Franco's troops have won. Outposts have been created at the various frontiers to fight against the still-active anti-Fascists. And into one of these outposts is brought Ofelia (the real star of the movie, a young actress to watch), the stepdaughter-against-her-will to a sadistic Fascist Captain (Sergi Lopez, in a fine but unsympa- thetic performance), whom her mother has married because he knocked her up and wants his unborn son more than he wants anything else in his life. And, of course, he pays for things like food and clothing, stuff that she'd otherwise have little access to in Franco's Spain, since her husband (Ofelia's father) was killed in the revolution as a traitor to the Franco forces. Gnarly situation. Ofelia deals with it the way she deals with other gnarly situations, by retreating into an inner world that only she can see. This world is full of fairies and laby- rinths and fauns and giant frogs and menacing quasihuman beasts with their eyes in the palms of their hands. In this inner world she is a Princess of the realm, someone who had lost her way in a previous incarnation and become trapped in the gnarly world of Fascist Spain. All she has to do to return to the world that she originally came from is to accomplish three dangerous tasks, before the moon becomes full. This is such a marvelous movie, in so many ways, that I can't really go into it here. Seamless special effects make Ofelia's world bloom as accurately for her as it does for us. There is great acting not only from the aforementioned Ivana Baquero, who plays Ofelia, and Sergi Lopez, but one of Ofelia's few friends in the Fascist outpost is played by Maribel Verdú, the radiant and very talented star of Y tu mama tambien. She is in a way the heroic counterpart in the real world of Ofelia in her world. One of the things that I find most interesting about this film, and one of the main reasons I'm writing about it to Fairfield Life, is the sheer consistency of one trend in the reviews of this film I saw in the press. Many critics loved it; I first discovered the film because it wound up on so many critics' Ten Best of 2006 lists. But almost without exception, each of those critics refers to Ofelia's world as imaginary, the unreal place that she retreats into to escape the horror of her everyday reality. I find that very interesting, because I saw the entire film -- both the shock of Franco's Spain and the beauty/awe of Ofelia's world -- as equal partners in a very real visionscape. I saw the whole film as mythic, and what the critics saw as Ofelia's retreats into fantasy I saw as merely a psychic twostep into another dimension, a separate reality, a parallel universe, to which she alone has access because she alone can see it. I think this is a *marvelous* film, and suspect that many here might find it interesting, too. Marek in particular (I think it was you I had the short conversation with about simultaneous incarnations) might like it. Just think of Ofelia as bouncing back and forth between two simultaneous incarnation-streams, trying to make sense of the simultaneity of it all. If you do watch it, the countryside it's filmed in looks a lot like where I am right now, in Catalunya. That kind of rocky, rugged, rolling countryside, but in my case ending at a beach. Think Big Sur, except that they speak Catalan and Spanish here. That and there are fewer So you want lipo with that pina colada bars in Big Sur. But in Big Sur they make the women wear the top parts of their bathing suits, so that kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?
[FairfieldLife] Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX
Would you tell us if these Artificial Sweeteners are safe. Fructo-OligoSaccharide. Galacto-OligoSaccharide. Sucralose MaltoDextrin. Are these Vedic foods.?? Would Maharishi approve of these Sweeteners.? I am not able to get much insights on Google on these Oligo-Saccharide. - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like some dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture sans the picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a poster here on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just projection. If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), yeah, someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move on, or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada. I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And why shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is a boon from the Gods. Those who object to the money and all that are the same people who would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the dollars. I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating. Yep, worldly money good, holy money bad. What's up with that? There's a great excerpt that bob brigante posted recently from Guru Dev where he talks about the uselessness of the unmanifest aspect of God. So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass money is bad is a strange perspective to say the least. Attempts to amass money is not bad. Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non- profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains IS bad. And it's not holy either. If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family. Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to confirm whether it's true. Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. al. that have been made here? One thing that is NOT acceptable to me: leaders and figureheads of non-profit organisations that solicit and accept donor money who appoint blood relatives to positions of administration and control over such monies. Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money plus absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture make. It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is occuring in this instance. But the fact that relatives are running the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more vital. Do you not agree?
[FairfieldLife] Re: El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)
Thanks, Turq, I'll get it and watch it. Even though I read the good reviews about it (and they were all unfailingly positive), I never got around to checking it out. Your recommendation has pushed me over the edge. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded this film some time ago, but never got around to watching it until last night. I think that subconsciously I was waiting to watch it near the area in which it was filmed, and in which the story takes place. It's Spain, 1944. The revolution is over, and Franco's troops have won. Outposts have been created at the various frontiers to fight against the still-active anti-Fascists. And into one of these outposts is brought Ofelia (the real star of the movie, a young actress to watch), the stepdaughter-against-her-will to a sadistic Fascist Captain (Sergi Lopez, in a fine but unsympa- thetic performance), whom her mother has married because he knocked her up and wants his unborn son more than he wants anything else in his life. And, of course, he pays for things like food and clothing, stuff that she'd otherwise have little access to in Franco's Spain, since her husband (Ofelia's father) was killed in the revolution as a traitor to the Franco forces. Gnarly situation. Ofelia deals with it the way she deals with other gnarly situations, by retreating into an inner world that only she can see. This world is full of fairies and laby- rinths and fauns and giant frogs and menacing quasihuman beasts with their eyes in the palms of their hands. In this inner world she is a Princess of the realm, someone who had lost her way in a previous incarnation and become trapped in the gnarly world of Fascist Spain. All she has to do to return to the world that she originally came from is to accomplish three dangerous tasks, before the moon becomes full. This is such a marvelous movie, in so many ways, that I can't really go into it here. Seamless special effects make Ofelia's world bloom as accurately for her as it does for us. There is great acting not only from the aforementioned Ivana Baquero, who plays Ofelia, and Sergi Lopez, but one of Ofelia's few friends in the Fascist outpost is played by Maribel Verdú, the radiant and very talented star of Y tu mama tambien. She is in a way the heroic counterpart in the real world of Ofelia in her world. One of the things that I find most interesting about this film, and one of the main reasons I'm writing about it to Fairfield Life, is the sheer consistency of one trend in the reviews of this film I saw in the press. Many critics loved it; I first discovered the film because it wound up on so many critics' Ten Best of 2006 lists. But almost without exception, each of those critics refers to Ofelia's world as imaginary, the unreal place that she retreats into to escape the horror of her everyday reality. I find that very interesting, because I saw the entire film -- both the shock of Franco's Spain and the beauty/awe of Ofelia's world -- as equal partners in a very real visionscape. I saw the whole film as mythic, and what the critics saw as Ofelia's retreats into fantasy I saw as merely a psychic twostep into another dimension, a separate reality, a parallel universe, to which she alone has access because she alone can see it. I think this is a *marvelous* film, and suspect that many here might find it interesting, too. Marek in particular (I think it was you I had the short conversation with about simultaneous incarnations) might like it. Just think of Ofelia as bouncing back and forth between two simultaneous incarnation-streams, trying to make sense of the simultaneity of it all. If you do watch it, the countryside it's filmed in looks a lot like where I am right now, in Catalunya. That kind of rocky, rugged, rolling countryside, but in my case ending at a beach. Think Big Sur, except that they speak Catalan and Spanish here. That and there are fewer So you want lipo with that pina colada bars in Big Sur. But in Big Sur they make the women wear the top parts of their bathing suits, so that kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
My TM-tutor says that all documents even the ones that are audited are 'Cooked up'. 'Cooking the book', is practiced in an Art form in india because of decades of Socialism and high rate of Taxes. He says that Money is brought into india in the form of Gold and It directly goes to the two Nephews. ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 17:15:43 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy Attempts to amass money is not bad. Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non- profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains IS bad. And it's not holy either. If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family. Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to confirm whether it's true. Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. al. that have been made here? One thing that is NOT acceptable to me: leaders and figureheads of non-profit organisations that solicit and accept donor money who appoint blood relatives to positions of administration and control over such monies. Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money plus absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture make. It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is occuring in this instance. But the fact that relatives are running the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more vital. Do you not agree? - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you tell us if these Artificial Sweeteners are safe. Fructo-OligoSaccharide. Galacto-OligoSaccharide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligosaccharide These aren't artificial; they're substances found in plants. They're not only safe but can be beneficial by nurturing friendly bacteria in the intestinal tract. Sucralose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose This is definitely artificial. There's a detailed discussion about its safety on this page. Concerns are theoretical and anecdotal, not based on experiment. MaltoDextrin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltodextrin This is made from starch, so it isn't really artificial either. No known safety concerns, but it can aggravate celiac disease if it's made from starch from wheat or barley. It's used primarily as a thickening agent, not a sweetener, although it's mildly sweet. Are these Vedic foods.?? Would Maharishi approve of these Sweeteners.? Almost certainly he wouldn't approve of sucralose, nor is it Vedic, since it was developed only recently. Ayurveda generally prefers fresh, unprocessed food, so maltodextrin would probably not be on the approved list. I am not able to get much insights on Google on these Oligo- Saccharide.
[FairfieldLife] Deadly tornado hits Kansas
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6628613.stm anywhere near Central Uni???
[FairfieldLife] Re: El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think this is a *marvelous* film, and suspect that many here might find it interesting, too. A real gem. Saw it twice. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My TM-tutor says that all documents even the ones that are audited are 'Cooked up'. 'Cooking the book', is practiced in an Art form in india because of decades of Socialism and high rate of Taxes. He says that Money is brought into india in the form of Gold and It directly goes to the two Nephews. I wonder, then, if there is such a thing as an international forensic auditor; that is, a CPA-type professional that can cut through the quirks of a particular culture's tricks in order to get at the heart of what's going on financially in circumstances such as this. ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 17:15:43 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy Attempts to amass money is not bad. Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non- profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains IS bad. And it's not holy either. If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family. Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to confirm whether it's true. Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. al. that have been made here? One thing that is NOT acceptable to me: leaders and figureheads of non-profit organisations that solicit and accept donor money who appoint blood relatives to positions of administration and control over such monies. Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money plus absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture make. It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is occuring in this instance. But the fact that relatives are running the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more vital. Do you not agree? - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: My TM-tutor says that all documents even the ones that are audited are 'Cooked up'. 'Cooking the book', is practiced in an Art form in india because of decades of Socialism and high rate of Taxes. He says that Money is brought into india in the form of Gold and It directly goes to the two Nephews. I wonder, then, if there is such a thing as an international forensic auditor; that is, a CPA-type professional that can cut through the quirks of a particular culture's tricks in order to get at the heart of what's going on financially in circumstances such as this. If there were (thinking William Gibson-ish here for a moment), wouldn't it be likely that they would make more money by going to the rich cats and offering to *not* practice their art, for a price, than they might make by practicing it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning all, I am disabled (blind) so am not sure how I can rack how many posts I respond too so I do not break your rules here anyone go many ideas how I can track these? I assume you are using some sort of special devise for the vision-impaired that enables you to hear (or feel, through Braille) the text that comes over the internet into your computer. As such, your computer monitor is sitting there not being used. Since it is serving no useful purpose, I suggest that you put it to use as a sort of tote board in order to keep track of your posts. The smooth surface of its screen combined with the extra-sensitive sense of touch blind people develop through their experience with Braille will come in handy in this regard. Here's what you do: take a sharp, hard object like a rock or a piece of gravel from your driveway. Every time you make a post to FairFieldLife, scratch a notch onto the surface of the monitor and -- Voila! -- you've got a tally sheet sitting conveniently right there in front of you on your desktop that you can easily run your fingers across in order to determine how many posts you've made. It should look something like this:
[FairfieldLife] Re: El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)
That one did get away from me. Thanks Unc. s.
[FairfieldLife] Tm and the blind
Questions. If a blind person takes TM how are they supposed to follow the directions exactly? Close the eyes. Open the eyes. Seems like they are going to have to skip directions. Does this mean they are not getting the full benefit from TM? Or would it be possible for us sighted people to fudge the rules a bit and still get the full benefit? s.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who knows? I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like some dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture sans the picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a poster here on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just projection. I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is innoculous. But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him beside a photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide-eyed Western cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most definitely creepy and Ghoulish. If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), yeah, someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move on, or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada. What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, the one where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like Maharishi, is sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev painting behind him? Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of a guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am interested in meeting... All these people whining about Girish clothing traditionally obviously has not been in India for a long time. All the upp and coming young people, specially from priviledged backgrounds now increasingly dress traditionally. Only their fathers wear western dresses these days. You see this more and more often, especially at very expensive hotels in Delhi and Mumbai.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And why shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is a boon from the Gods. Those who object to the money and all that are the same people who would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the dollars. I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating. Yep, worldly money good, holy money bad. What's up with that? There's a great excerpt that bob brigante posted recently from Guru Dev where he talks about the uselessness of the unmanifest aspect of God. So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass money is bad is a strange perspective to say the least. And curiously widespread. If God is unmanifest and manifest, money surely will be a part of HE/SHE/IT.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money plus absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture make. It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is occuring in this instance. But the fact that relatives are running the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more vital. Do you not agree? Apparently Amma disagreed
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass money is bad is a strange perspective to say the least. And curiously widespread. If God is unmanifest and manifest, money surely will be a part of HE/SHE/IT. i quite agree, even in Hindu mythology, wealth is merely the blessings of Goddess Lakshmi. However, the Western spiritual history developed a very different traditional outlook, saying that wealth is a hindrance and poverty is a path to more perfect spirituality. this is how the West has viewed it: The Counsels of Perfection are chastity, poverty and obedience (cf. canons 599-601). Religious vows of keeping the councils were first taken by St. Francis of Assisi and his followers. They were the first of the mendicant orders. These vows are taken now by all Catholic religious communities founded since the twelveth century. These counsels have been analyzed as a way to keep the world from distracting the soul, on the grounds that the principal good things of this world easily divide themselves into three classes. There are the riches which make life easy and pleasant, there are the pleasures of the flesh which appeal to the appetites, and, lastly, there are honours and positions of authority which delight the self-love of the individual. These three matters, in themselves often innocent and not forbidden to the devout Christian, may yet, even when no kind of sin is involved, hold back the soul from its true aim and vocation, and delay it from becoming entirely conformed to the will of God. It is, therefore, the object of the three counsels of perfection to free the soul from these hindrances. The love of riches is opposed by the counsel of poverty; the pleasures of the flesh, even the lawful pleasures of holy matrimony, are excluded by the counsel of chastity; while the desire for worldly power and honour is met by the counsel of holy obedience. Abstinence from unlawful indulgence in any of these directions is forbidden to all Christians as a matter of precept. The further voluntary abstinence from what is in itself lawful is the subject of the counsels, and such abstinence is not in itself meritorious, but only becomes so when it is done for the sake of Christ, and in order to be more free to serve Him. taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_counsels
[FairfieldLife] Nirvana
I was going to write tonight from Nirvana, but I've decided against it. I was there earlier and lemme tell you...no matter what you've heard in all of those spiritual books, Nirvana is *way* overrated. I had been looking forward to kicking back in the environment the ads proclaimed as Sitges' Best Chillout Bar, surrounded by Buddhas and drinks with little floating lotuses in them, but Noo. It turned out to be a tightass bar, full of young upscale Spanish youth longing to chillout, as the ads had invited them to do, but somehow lacking the knack. So I moved back to the Bar Pay-Pay. The Waitress With The Legs Designed In Brahmaloka is not here tonight, so I might just be able to write a little something about Nirvana, even if I'm not there. Nope. Not a damned thing. Wouldn't it be a kick if Nirvana the spiritual goal turned out to be a lot like Nirvana the bar? You struggle and struggle for lifetimes, performing weirdass sadhanas like bouncing on your butt on slabs of foam, and after eons of Class-A tapas like that you finally reach Nirvana...and it's like the bar of the same name in Sitges? Full of stuck-up people who came there looking to chill but who never quite mastered it? Bummer.
[FairfieldLife] de Herrera interview
You know, David Lynch, he was taught in March of 1972 and he has never missed a meditation. Isn't that amazing? I'll bet there are a lot of people in the Hollywood scene who do meditation. I have to tell you one little thing about David, because I love him dearly. I was going through an old address book, the kind where you push a button and this little piece of paper fell out and it was a little note from Helen Lutes whose husband used to be the head of Maharishi's organization for years and she said on this, If you need somebody who does carpentry and a little painting, there is this young man who lives in a garage around the corner from me and his name is David Lynch. I've shown that to David. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Transcendental_Meditation/ message 1564 (requires membership)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deadly tornado hits Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6628613.stm anywhere near Central Uni??? * Nah, CU is in the north near the NE border, Greensberg is close to the OK border in the south: http://tinyurl.com/ckqgv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana
the joy of drinking... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to write tonight from Nirvana, but I've decided against it. I was there earlier and lemme tell you...no matter what you've heard in all of those spiritual books, Nirvana is *way* overrated. I had been looking forward to kicking back in the environment the ads proclaimed as Sitges' Best Chillout Bar, surrounded by Buddhas and drinks with little floating lotuses in them, but Noo. It turned out to be a tightass bar, full of young upscale Spanish youth longing to chillout, as the ads had invited them to do, but somehow lacking the knack. So I moved back to the Bar Pay-Pay. The Waitress With The Legs Designed In Brahmaloka is not here tonight, so I might just be able to write a little something about Nirvana, even if I'm not there. Nope. Not a damned thing. Wouldn't it be a kick if Nirvana the spiritual goal turned out to be a lot like Nirvana the bar? You struggle and struggle for lifetimes, performing weirdass sadhanas like bouncing on your butt on slabs of foam, and after eons of Class-A tapas like that you finally reach Nirvana...and it's like the bar of the same name in Sitges? Full of stuck-up people who came there looking to chill but who never quite mastered it? Bummer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the joy of drinking... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html Many thanks for this, Bob. Such a funny, well- written review makes me want to order the book. The Bar is certainly a source of fascination. Honestly, I really don't drink that much -- too fuckin' old to get away with it -- but I really do appreciate a good bar. I'm a fan of the Bars With Ambiance Of Their Own. It doesn't have to be a classy, upscale, designer-Buddhist ambiance, like the Buddhabars in Paris and in Barcelona. Obviously. I blew out of the Nirvana bar in Sitges within minutes. By comparison, the Bar Pay Pay down the block is tacky to the max. But it's got soul, man. One feels good sitting here and watching the passersby. One has cool conversations here, and has them consistently. What more can one ask of a bar? The social lubricants of human society such as aloohol have been around as long as there have been humans, and thus are an important part of the sociology of the human race. I mean, *cave men* found ways to distill plants and get high. Ponder that. Even though they were only one rung up the evolutionary ladder from chimpanzees, the earliest humans carried with them the chimps' inherent desire to get high, to shift their state of attention. In the absence of technologies such as meditation, bars are where humans go to shift their state of attention. Most of the humans on this planet are unaware of technologies such as meditation. There- fore, in my book, bars are interesting. That's where you would go if you were a seeker who had found no other way to shift your state of attention. The best bar I've ever had the privilege of sitting and writing in is no more. It was Windows On The World, in the World Trade Center. *Magnif- icent* ambiance. The next best bar I've ever been in is the bar at Yab Yum in Amsterdam. This may be a stretch for those still attached to the puri- tanical ways of the TMO; Yab Yum is a brothel, the highest-class brothel in Amsterdam, at the time I was going there. But, it's also the kind of brothel where you might run into the Stones at the bar, or politicians from major countries of the world. It's a real trip. It's also a visual treat. The bar was decorated, rather well, with authentic Asian art. I'm some- what of a collector of Asian Art, and can only drool over some of the pieces they have on display there. In a brothel. Go figure. And in that bar/brothel I have had some of the highest conversations I have had on planet Earth. Again, go figure. And then there was the Nirvana bar, tonight. All flash, no substance. There is an actual silence that underlies Yab Yum, and that underlies the Bar Pay-Pay as I write this that is sorely missing from Nirvana. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I was going to write tonight from Nirvana, but I've decided against it. I was there earlier and lemme tell you...no matter what you've heard in all of those spiritual books, Nirvana is *way* overrated. I had been looking forward to kicking back in the environment the ads proclaimed as Sitges' Best Chillout Bar, surrounded by Buddhas and drinks with little floating lotuses in them, but Noo. It turned out to be a tightass bar, full of young upscale Spanish youth longing to chillout, as the ads had invited them to do, but somehow lacking the knack. So I moved back to the Bar Pay-Pay. The Waitress With The Legs Designed In Brahmaloka is not here tonight, so I might just be able to write a little something about Nirvana, even if I'm not there. Nope. Not a damned thing. Wouldn't it be a kick if Nirvana the spiritual goal turned out to be a lot like Nirvana the bar? You struggle and struggle for lifetimes, performing weirdass sadhanas like bouncing on your butt on slabs of foam, and after eons of Class-A tapas like that you finally reach Nirvana...and it's like the bar of the same name in Sitges? Full of stuck-up people who came there looking to chill but who never quite mastered it? Bummer.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the joy of drinking... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html The social lubricants of human society such as aloohol have been around as long as there have been humans, and thus are an important part of the sociology of the human race. I mean, *cave men* found ways to distill plants and get high. Ponder that. Even though they were only one rung up the evolutionary ladder from chimpanzees, the earliest humans carried with them the chimps' inherent desire to get high, to shift their state of attention. See http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/51357/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: the joy of drinking... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html Many thanks for this, Bob. Such a funny, well- written review makes me want to order the book. The Bar is certainly a source of fascination. Nice. One of the coolest, hottest places I remember though I was only there a handful of times was the Hong Kong cafe in Paramaribo, Surinam. A town on the equator carved out of the Amazon jungle, blazing hot. The bar was on the second floor of a building, with a big shaded veranda for sitting and watching the mostly indoors town during the hot afternoon. Used to sit there while drinking ice cold liters of dutch beer, watching the few people on the street braving the sun. Walking in the heat after that was pretty trippy, with heat radiating up off the street and the ground-- palm trees, scrub grass, and the jungle canopy always on any horizon. The colors of everything intensified by the equatorial light, and always feeling submerged in the thickness of the heat.
[FairfieldLife] Best source for info on supplements (Fructo-Oligosaccharides, etc).
IMO, Life Extension Foundation: http://www.lef.org The most popular Fructo-Oligosaccharide is simply FOS, perfectly safe. My favorite suppliers for supplements: Swanson's Health Foods in Fargo, ND , and Vitacost in Florida. In regard to brain nutrients, I assume that everybody reading this is taking their DHA which may be obtained from fish oil. (a significant part of the brain is made up of DHA). To maximize the benefits of DHA, this should be taken along with PS, Phosphatidylserice. But there are three phosphatidyl's of importance: 1. PS 2. PC (PhosphatidylCholine 3. GPC: GlyceroPhospoCholine Information on these important brain nutrients may be found at http://www.phospholipidsonline.com Also, I'm mentioning these nutrients since there are many supplements of value that are not Vedic. Some are Vedic but have Western names, for example, Gojij, a powerful red/orange berry that grows in the Himalayas.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best source for info on supplements (Fructo-Oligosaccharides, etc).
you can get vegan DHA now that comes straight from the algae --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, Life Extension Foundation: http://www.lef.org The most popular Fructo-Oligosaccharide is simply FOS, perfectly safe. My favorite suppliers for supplements: Swanson's Health Foods in Fargo, ND , and Vitacost in Florida. In regard to brain nutrients, I assume that everybody reading this is taking their DHA which may be obtained from fish oil. (a significant part of the brain is made up of DHA). To maximize the benefits of DHA, this should be taken along with PS, Phosphatidylserice. But there are three phosphatidyl's of importance: 1. PS 2. PC (PhosphatidylCholine 3. GPC: GlyceroPhospoCholine Information on these important brain nutrients may be found at http://www.phospholipidsonline.com Also, I'm mentioning these nutrients since there are many supplements of value that are not Vedic. Some are Vedic but have Western names, for example, Gojij, a powerful red/orange berry that grows in the Himalayas.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX
Lol, Dr. Pete's a crazy psychiatrist. He has no expertise in this area. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you tell us if these Artificial Sweeteners are safe. Fructo-OligoSaccharide. Galacto-OligoSaccharide. Sucralose MaltoDextrin. Are these Vedic foods.?? Would Maharishi approve of these Sweeteners.? I am not able to get much insights on Google on these Oligo- Saccharide. - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
Attempts to amass money is not bad. Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non- profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains IS bad. And it's not holy either. If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family. Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to confirm whether it's true. Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. al. that have been made here? For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking account/ savings account. Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit slip from my current account. ... The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit required to make a repair appointment this summer. ... They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility for our country, and for creating a more perfect world. ... Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very precious work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level you can, and thank you in advance for your support. ... Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent generosity... There has never been so much given to this community for so little cost.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attempts to amass money is not bad. Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non- profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains IS bad. And it's not holy either. If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family. Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to confirm whether it's true. Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. al. that have been made here? For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking account/ savings account. Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit slip from my current account. ... The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit required to make a repair appointment this summer. ... They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility for our country, and for creating a more perfect world. ... Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very precious work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level you can, and thank you in advance for your support. ... Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent generosity... There has never been so much given to this community for so little cost. ?? What does the above have to do with anything? Did I incorrectly read the Kaplan posts that were posted here? Did I not read here that if you cross the Shrivastava family that you do it risking your own physical safety? Did I not read here that a donor who once sent $1 million to the Movement in India was told that the money was lost in transit? What does the fucking cultspeak that you blather above mean in this conversation??
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago
If you want to visit FF, a lot of FF people are in Chicago this weekend and next, seeing Mother Meera there in Oak Park. I stopped by on Friday there and the parking garage was full of Jefferson County Iowa cars. Lots gathering there and more expected for the weekend after work. In the Oak Park restaurants afterwards in the evenings too with FF folks. Very fun pilgrimage for the FF meditating community. Mother Meera: http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/ Chicago Program: http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp -Gov Doug,FF
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago
In a message dated 5/5/2007 11:56:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Doug, Did you see her? Mother Meera. What was your experience if you did. I will be seeing her in the New York area for the first time on May 20th and 21st. Love and Light. Lou Valentino If you want to visit FF, a lot of FF people are in Chicago this weekend and next, seeing Mother Meera there in Oak Park. I stopped by on Friday there and the parking garage was full of Jefferson County Iowa cars. Lots gathering there and more expected for the weekend after work. In the Oak Park restaurants afterwards in the evenings too with FF folks. Very fun pilgrimage for the FF meditating community. Mother Meera: _http://www.mmdarshahttp://wwhttp_ (http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/) Chicago Program: _http://www.mothermehttp://wwwhttp://www.mhtt_ (http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp) -Gov Doug,FF ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attempts to amass money is not bad. Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non- profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains IS bad. And it's not holy either. If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family. Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to confirm whether it's true. Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. al. that have been made here? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking account/ savings account. Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit slip from my current account. ... The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit required to make a repair appointment this summer. ... They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility for our country, and for creating a more perfect world. ... Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very precious work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level you can, and thank you in advance for your support. ... Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent generosity... There has never been so much given to this community for so little cost. ?? What does the above have to do with anything? Did I incorrectly read the Kaplan posts that were posted here? Did I not read here that if you cross the Shrivastava family that you do it risking your own physical safety? Did I not read here that a donor who once sent $1 million to the Movement in India was told that the money was lost in transit? What does the fucking cultspeak that you blather above mean in this conversation?? Oh Dear Shemp, may be it is their cry of wolf too much. But it may be up they are up against it. You know, a lot of money over the dam and under the bridge. They might be up against it with people like you and the Kaplans wanting an accounting and all. Hey,I was hoping that betwx the two of us may be we could come up with a hundred dollars of shingles to fix the roof. I already gave a hundred dollars to the roof last week when the letter first came out. May be if you would match me, then between the two of us there could be a hundred dollars of shingles. Who knows? May be that is part of the problem. A lot of people have voted with their feet. I mean,now come show your faith, belief, or experience? How about a hundred bucks, from FFL? Your Friend, JGD, Gov Doug fra FF
