[FairfieldLife] Scare Quotes redux (was Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > Nope didn't miss a thing. No political compromises yet but 60 > > > pieces of > > > legislation passed. Killings, executions and bombings are down. > > > Sunnis are > > > turning on Al Qaeda and working with Coalition forces for a > > > change. The Democrats > > > have a lot invested in the failure of the surge. If it works > > > they look very bad. > > > > It is such a cynical view from both sides to use the death of > > men, women and children as a political pawn to score points. > > really sickening and cold-hearted. Whether the surge "works" or > > not, I just want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as > > a country to recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > *Nobody* is "invested in failure" in Iraq. Of all the > right's calumnies, that is perhaps the most unspeakably > vile. > > It's the old "stab in the back" strategy, dragged out > and dressed up in an effort to excuse the failures > that have already occurred. Uh, Judy...using your *own* standards, aren't you insinuating above that either Jim or MDixon used the phrase "stab in the back?" You put it in quotes, after all. AND, you did so just after using quotes *fairly* "properly" (that is, accprding to the rules in Judy Stein's Big Book Of How To Write Gud) to *misquote* MDixon, who really said "invested in *the* failure," not "invested in failure." If you were doing the quote properly, you should have said "invested in ... failure," indicating with the elipses that you had left out one or more words. *By your own standards*, what you attributed to MDixon was technically a misquote of what he said. *By your own standards*, what you attributed to someone -- either Jim or MDixon -- was a made- up quote of your own, something that neither of them said or probably ever imagined. If it had been *me* you were having this dis- cussion with, and I had done what you just did, you would have been screaming to high heaven right now accusing me of maliciously claiming that you'd said something you didn't. You would have put this down to my long-estab- lished disregard for truth and honesty, and to my obvious malevolent intent towards you and my desire to portray you negatively here on FFL. And then you would have whined for a couple of more paragraphs, doing a smashing rendition of the Poor Me Blues. But it's *OK* when you do it. Right? Rules of punctuation usage and rules of "argu- mentation ethics" are only for *other* people. They don't *apply* to you. Right? And yes, for the others here who are rolling their eyes and thinking of Sal's song (nice work on that, Sal...more creativity and originality of thought in one post than Judy has displayed in 13 years), YES this is a silly nitpick. It's *insane* for me to claim that Judy meant to attribute the phrase "stab in the back" to either Jim or MDixon, just because she put it in quotes. So why isn't it insane when she claims the same thing about me and Vaj?
[FairfieldLife] Progress of one of the disciples
-- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Holly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Namaste Guru-ji and Guru-S, Namaste and Maha Shanti OM * The past few days the dissolution or apparent absortion into nothing > has, as stated earlier, been great. The mind appears to be floating > in empty space. G it has no substance in the end. * Thoughts and emotions come with great force, only > to fade because no sticking point can be found. G this is excellent progress. * While comforting on > one level, surges of very deep fear rage the body. Starting in the > belly and radiating through every known cell, this fear runs deeper > than ever imagined. G yes this is understood - ego fears and has nothing to base things on just the great unknown looms ahead. If it were known just how freeing it is to finally be dissolved into the great IS one would leap in head first. * Thoughts of Surrender are quickly delved into, > but the mind ALWAYS pulls back. "But"... "wait, what about"... "I > am not good enough, yet"... "I have further to go"... ad nauseum. > This only increases the fear. G the good news is eventually one will become so tired that there is no option left other than surrender. * It is felt as if on the edge of a > great abyss... darkeness consumes the future. G ah yes this one is known well. * Dreams of the future > are attempted, but fail miserably because there is nothing they can > stick to. The dreams have no hold. The mind is finding no > comfort. The mind is finding no home. G Excellent. * While Surrender has always been looked forward to with great > anticipation, this one has failed miserably so far. G it is a natural reaction to save what appears to be ones self - foolish but natural. hahahahahahaha * Each moment the lines of separtion fade more and more. G good * Each moment the mind seems > to fade into nothingness more and more. G good * Each moment the ever > present Reality blankets what is seen and felt. G more progress. * Each moment I am > losing more of "me", which brings the fear and Surrender, but then a > run backwards. Only, no matter where the thoughts may wander, there > IT is. No matter what is "wished" or "dreamed" there IT remains. G good * It consumes in ALL moments regardless of that "me". It consumes > despite and because of that "me". It is inescapable. G now you are getting it. * Would ask "where to go" or "what to do", but alas, seems pointless. > There is nowhere to go and nothing to do. I am in no man's land. G you are in the grasp of Grace. to bad. hahahahahahaha > Om that I AM, > Sarojini Love & Light 0
[FairfieldLife] More comments for the advancing disciple
Namaste Swami Siddhananda, > > *It gives great calm (albeit currently insulated by absolute terror) > to have watched "you" enter the Lotus never to return. The words > spoken swaddle this one in comfort... walking firmly (but slowly) in > Faith now, since there is no other option. S Yes, keep going, let go completely into the experience which will dissolve into pure awareness - for you have never been separate from this. *It is like being lost at > sea with no raft, no life jacket, no help in sight... nothing to > keep this one afloat. S It feels this way because all supports are being pulled away until it feels like you will cease to exist - breathe and relax, let whatever needs to explode do so. You will not go anywhere, only naked awareness will remain which is what you are right now minus the attachments. * Eventually, the legs will tire and that dark > ocean I am floating in will overcome. S But there is nothing to overcome, this is the great cosmic joke - there is nothing there only a dream shadow... *However, no "one" will return > to the surface. Only the Ocean will remain. S The ocean of universal awareness which is what you are right now and have always been - just have imagined yourself to be a separate wave moving to it's own rhythm - When this little wave realizes the ocean, it is a joy - there are still waves of thought and movement, but it is not seen as separate, the vision is whole and complete and remains that way - the same consciousness - one-self. Lost at sea, > Sarojini It is my heart prayer that you realize yourself (what a funny thing to say how can you ever be anything but yourself - these things are so funny aren't they?) Pure sky awareness IS 0 Swami Siddhananda
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > > > > You think God > > > > is stupid? > > > > > > Well bliss is stupid according to seer sri pete. And since God is > > > bliss, you do the math. > > > > Well, to be stupid is good for yoga, someone I know says. > > > Hi, I think innocent is much better for yoga.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > > > > You think God > > > > is stupid? > > > > > > Well bliss is stupid according to seer sri pete. And since God is > > > bliss, you do the math. > > > > Well, to be stupid is good for yoga, someone I know says. > > > Hi, I think innocent is much better for yoga.:-) Its partly synonymous but not completely. To be innocent can be an instruction, to be stupid is more like a natural condition. ;-) Furthermore, knowing one is stupid will lead to humility, which is again good for yoga. Being clever will likely lead to a reliance on the mind, which is likely a hindrance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:13 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would someone please seed these as torrents? > > > 1. MMY on Kundalini from Lake Louise, Canada 1968 > > http://www.box.net/shared/by1nmnoznv > I'm not sure if I got it right, but I think he called /kuNDalinii/ 'germ of life'. Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana and prana is the essence of life. Beyond that, I wouldn't read too much into it because his knowledge of kundalini-vidya was clearly lacking.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 7/31/07 11:12:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parliament headed into a monthlong summer recess on Monday, halting work despite calls from the United States and the prime minister for lawmakers to shorten their break to push through important legislation. The decision to take off the month of August almost surely eliminates hopes that the 275-member Council of Representatives will pass laws sought by American officials as evidence that the country is making progress toward stability...p The Iraqi Parliament was originally scheduled for a two month recess. They shortened it to one month, the same amount of time our Congress takes off each summer to "listen" to their constituents at home. Rome wasn't built in a day and it took over a hundred years for us to guarantee the rights of freed slaves and give women the right to vote. The surge as you said earlier was meant to give the Iraqi government and it's people more security and breathing room. It has just been in place and effect a couple of months and showing promise but that is not enough for those that called it a failure before it ever started, for political purposes. The Democrats have set them selves up that they need it to fail to stay in power. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 7/31/07 11:06:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is such a cynical view from both sides to use the death of men, women and children as a political pawn to score points. really sickening and cold-hearted. Whether the surge "works" or not, I just want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) Do you really want it to be for nothing?:) Why don't you want it to be a success? I'll tell you why, because then you can say you were right. Pure ego and it gives the Democrats another chance to relive the days following the defeat in Vietnam . If it works, there is a new democracy in an area of the world that is used to tyrants and dictators that breed the very unrest and hopelessness that fuels the violence so common to the middle east. It also allows people in other middle eastern nations to ask why they couldn't have the same thing. In effect you said it from your heart, you want a defeat, you want failure, you want it to solve nothing. It really is hard to accomplish anything when you have to drag around so much dead weight. There is an old saying, Either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 7/31/07 11:49:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whether the surge "works" or > not, I just want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as > a country to recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) *Nobody* is "invested in failure" in Iraq. Of all the right's calumnies, that is perhaps the most unspeakably vile. It's the old "stab in the back" strategy, dragged out and dressed up in an effort to excuse the failures that have already occurred. Flanigan's sentence says it all Judy. He doesn't care if it works. He just wants it over and for us to say it solved nothing. THAT is defeatism. It's no stab in the back but a slap in the face, so drink your own vile! Why couldn't flanigan have wished for it to be over soon with a success? It's because success will show the world never to trust the Democrats to follow through on commitments. Success will show the Democrats to be defeatists. As I said, the Democrats have way too much invested in defeat. It has to happen for them to have any power. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 7/31/07 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whether the surge "works" or not, I just want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > I couldn't agree more with the above paragraph. Could you imagine our children going to school in the morning hoping they come home alive by the end of the day. Americans have no idea just how bad it is. Something has got to give by the end of the Fall season in Iraq or we need to get out of there el pronto. Yes, this is the Democrat view. They want a defeat so they can say it was all for nothing. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights
In a message dated 8/1/07 12:25:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's just some of what the Republicans have > obstructed: raising the minimum wage; ethics > reform; immigration reform; Medicare > prescription drug reform; electronic campaign > funding disclosure; funding for renewable energy; > funding for the intelligence community; > appointing conferees on the 9/11 Commission > recommendations. Actually the Republicans had far better Ideas on many of these issues. Ideas with teeth in them that the Democrats stripped out of legislation or prevented to begin with. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Scare Quotes redux (was Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nope didn't miss a thing. No political compromises yet but 60 > > > > pieces of > > > > legislation passed. Killings, executions and bombings are down. > > > > Sunnis are > > > > turning on Al Qaeda and working with Coalition forces for a > > > > change. The Democrats > > > > have a lot invested in the failure of the surge. If it works > > > > they look very bad. > > > > > > It is such a cynical view from both sides to use the death of > > > men, women and children as a political pawn to score points. > > > really sickening and cold-hearted. Whether the surge "works" or > > > not, I just want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as > > > a country to recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > > > *Nobody* is "invested in failure" in Iraq. Of all the > > right's calumnies, that is perhaps the most unspeakably > > vile. > > > > It's the old "stab in the back" strategy, dragged out > > and dressed up in an effort to excuse the failures > > that have already occurred. > > Uh, Judy...using your *own* standards, aren't > you insinuating above that either Jim or MDixon > used the phrase "stab in the back?" Nope. (BTW, the question mark should go outside the quote marks, since it's not part of the quoted phrase.) Obviously I wouldn't be referring to Jim, because he isn't right wing. For MDixon, see below. > You put it in quotes, after all. AND, you did > so just after using quotes *fairly* "properly" > (that is, accprding to the rules in Judy Stein's > Big Book Of How To Write Gud) to *misquote* > MDixon, who really said "invested in *the* > failure," not "invested in failure." If you > were doing the quote properly, you should have > said "invested in ... failure," indicating with > the elipses that you had left out one or more > words. Not needed when the original is right there to see. I was broadening the *idea* slightly by leaving out "the" and not including "surge" at the end: not only is nobody invested in the failure of the surge, nobody is invested in failure in Iraq generally. > *By your own standards*, what you attributed to > MDixon was technically a misquote of what he > said. *By your own standards*, what you attributed > to someone -- either Jim or MDixon -- was a made- > up quote of your own, something that neither of > them said or probably ever imagined. "Stab in the back" is a historical reference (which is why I preceded it with "old" and followed it with "dragged out and dressed up," you see). MDixon certainly has the *idea* in mind; it's one of the current right-wing talking points that the Democrats' push to withdraw the troops will bring about failure in Iraq, as if the venture hadn't already failed big-time. I'm obviously not suggesting that's what Jim had in mind, because he isn't right wing, and he wasn't referring to failure per se but to *any* means of using the war for political advantage. (Google the phrase to find out how it and the idea behind it have been used in the past by the right against the left.) > If it had been *me* you were having this dis- > cussion with, and I had done what you just did, > you would have been screaming to high heaven right > now accusing me of maliciously claiming that you'd > said something you didn't. Nope, because I'd have had the good sense to see from the context that you weren't attempting to suggest that it was a phrase I had used (even if I weren't familiar with the historical background). > You would have put this down to my long-estab- > lished disregard for truth and honesty, and to > my obvious malevolent intent towards you and my > desire to portray you negatively here on FFL. > And then you would have whined for a couple of > more paragraphs, doing a smashing rendition of > the Poor Me Blues. > > But it's *OK* when you do it. Right? > > Rules of punctuation usage and rules of "argu- > mentation ethics" are only for *other* people. > They don't *apply* to you. Right? > > And yes, for the others here who are rolling > their eyes and thinking of Sal's song (nice work > on that, Sal...more creativity and originality > of thought in one post than Judy has displayed > in 13 years), YES this is a silly nitpick. It's > *insane* for me to claim that Judy meant to > attribute the phrase "stab in the back" to > either Jim or MDixon, just because she put it > in quotes. > > So why isn't it insane when she claims the same > thing about me and Vaj? Because of the context, of course. Sorry. Nice try, no cigar.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/31/07 11:06:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It is such a cynical view from both sides to use the death of men, > women and children as a political pawn to score points. really > sickening and cold-hearted. Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > > > > Do you really want it to be for nothing?:) Why don't you want it to be a > success? I'll tell you why, because then you can say you were right. Pure ego > and it gives the Democrats another chance to relive the days following the > defeat in Vietnam . If it works, there is a new democracy in an area of the world > that is used to tyrants and dictators that breed the very unrest and > hopelessness that fuels the violence so common to the middle east. It also allows > people in other middle eastern nations to ask why they couldn't have the same > thing. In effect you said it from your heart, you want a defeat, you want > failure, you want it to solve nothing. It really is hard to accomplish anything > when you have to drag around so much dead weight. There is an old saying, > Either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. > I don't want it to be for nothing, so I can blah, blah, blah...The reality of it, and any other war in the Middle East is that it IS for nothing. There will never be a democracy established in Iraq by killing. Think about it-- there were maybe 50,000 so-called insurgents in Iraq when this mess started, yet the casualties inflicted have reached by some estimates one million Iraqis. Even if half of those were innocent men, women and children, that still leaves a half million fighting us. Where are they coming from? I'll tell you-- we are breeding them, by invading their country and killing their families. How we magically manifest a democratic country out of that is someone's fanciful and twisted dream, but it sure isn't reality. And my odds are on reality.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: File - FFL Guidelines.txt
Are there any rules on this forum? Like, rules that do not permit nitpicking, personal attacks, insults, venting, excessive posting, pasting articles, snipping, referencing, respect, logic, or lying? If not, then I'd like to suggest a few rules. > Guidelines File 12/22/05 >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/31/07 11:06:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It is such a cynical view from both sides to use the death of men, > women and children as a political pawn to score points. really > sickening and cold-hearted. Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > > > > Do you really want it to be for nothing?:) Why don't you want it to be a > success? I'll tell you why, because then you can say you were right. Pure ego > and it gives the Democrats another chance to relive the days following the > defeat in Vietnam . If it works, there is a new democracy in an area of the world > that is used to tyrants and dictators that breed the very unrest and > hopelessness that fuels the violence so common to the middle east. It also allows > people in other middle eastern nations to ask why they couldn't have the same > thing. In effect you said it from your heart, you want a defeat, you want > failure, you want it to solve nothing. That isn't what he said, now, is it? He said it has not and will not solve anything, and what he wants is for everyone to recognize that fact. Most do, by now. It really is hard to accomplish anything > when you have to drag around so much dead weight. The "dead weight" being dragged around is the neocons' wet dream you have so clearly articulated above. It was always a fantasy. There is an old saying, > Either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. About time for the Republicans to follow that very sage advice and get behind the Democrats' lead in bringing an end to this catastrophe.
[FairfieldLife] 'Gratitude For Your LIfe in General'
-- Gratitude For Your Life In General -- If you will be the vibration of happiness, you will see EXPERIENTIALLY that, you will get the reflection in all the ways that are reflective of your happiness - to the degree that your happiness vibration is turned on, you will get that reality. However, here's that clause, pay attention, here's what you call in your language, "the fine print." This is what we perceive in observing your society, trip many of you up and get you into trouble: Many of you will still place a CONDITION on your happiness even when you think you are doing it this way. "Oh yes, I will be happy because I know that if I'm happy then I'll get this happy reality, then I'll get what I want." If/then, if/then - you are still making it conditional on what happens outside you, and there is no outside... So the idea to really bring it down to focus is to understand this: in order for the principle to really work, in order for reality to reflect back to you the true reflection of your happiness you have to be happy with no expectation that you will get a reflection back. That's how it works. That's what makes it effortless, that's what makes it flawless, that's what makes it interesting. Is that you understand that in all of this, you don't have to think about what will come back to you, you simply can take it for GRANTED, you can KNOW you can simply already have the gratitude to be infinite, to KNOW that when you are happy nothing else can happen, but happy reflections. (Bartholomew through Mary-Margaret Moore) - www.amazon.com - Gratitude For Your Challenges & Challengers -- Life affords no higher pleasure than that of surmounting difficulties, passing from one step of success to another, forming new wishes and seeing them gratified. (Samuel Johnson) - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Scare Quotes redux (was Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...)
jstein wrote: > ...the question mark should go outside > the quote marks, since it's not part of the > quoted phrase.) > Is that a rule on this forum, that we have to put the question mark "outside the quote marks"?
[FairfieldLife] Hillary is right, Obama is naive
_Obama might send troops into Pakistan - Yahoo! News_ (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7) Let's see, we risk an all out war with a nation we know has nukes and is populated with Islamic fundamentalists and we are lead by Democrats who can not commit themselves to victory. We topple a fragile government who is helpful to us and risk creating another Iran, but one that already has nukes. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Scare Quotes redux (was Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...)
TurquoiseB wrote: > YES this is a silly nitpick. > So, you're saying that nitpicking is NOT against the rules by *your* standards. > Uh, Judy...using your *own* standards, aren't > you insinuating above that either Jim or MDixon > used the phrase "stab in the back?" > > You put it in quotes, after all. AND, you did > so just after using quotes *fairly* "properly" > (that is, accprding to the rules in Judy Stein's > Big Book Of How To Write Gud) to *misquote* > MDixon, who really said "invested in *the* > failure," not "invested in failure." If you > were doing the quote properly, you should have > said "invested in ... failure," indicating with > the elipses that you had left out one or more > words. > > *By your own standards*, what you attributed to > MDixon was technically a misquote of what he > said. *By your own standards*, what you attributed > to someone -- either Jim or MDixon -- was a made- > up quote of your own, something that neither of > them said or probably ever imagined. > > If it had been *me* you were having this dis- > cussion with, and I had done what you just did, > you would have been screaming to high heaven right > now accusing me of maliciously claiming that you'd > said something you didn't. > > You would have put this down to my long-estab- > lished disregard for truth and honesty, and to > my obvious malevolent intent towards you and my > desire to portray you negatively here on FFL. > And then you would have whined for a couple of > more paragraphs, doing a smashing rendition of > the Poor Me Blues. > > But it's *OK* when you do it. Right? > > Rules of punctuation usage and rules of "argu- > mentation ethics" are only for *other* people. > They don't *apply* to you. Right? > > And yes, for the others here who are rolling > their eyes and thinking of Sal's song (nice work > on that, Sal...more creativity and originality > of thought in one post than Judy has displayed > in 13 years), YES this is a silly nitpick. It's > *insane* for me to claim that Judy meant to > attribute the phrase "stab in the back" to > either Jim or MDixon, just because she put it > in quotes. > > So why isn't it insane when she claims the same > thing about me and Vaj? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/31/07 11:12:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Parliament headed into a monthlong summer recess on Monday, > halting work despite calls from the United States and the prime > minister for lawmakers to shorten their break to push through > important legislation. > > The decision to take off the month of August almost surely > eliminates hopes that the 275-member Council of Representatives > will pass laws sought by American officials as evidence that > the country is making progress toward stability... > > The Iraqi Parliament was originally scheduled for a two month > recess. They shortened it to one month, the same amount of time > our Congress takes off each summer to "listen" to their > constituents at home. The U.S. isn't in the middle of a civil war with a largely nonfunctional/dysfunctional government. And U.S. troops don't get to take a month off; they have to continue to fight and die in the blistering heat on their extended and repeated deployments, whether the parliament for which they're trying to provide breathing room so it can get something done is around to actually get things done or has taken off for a month of rest and relaxation out of the heat. Rome wasn't built in a day > and it took over a hundred years for us to guarantee the rights > of freed slaves and give women the right to vote. The Iraqis are now down to one to two hours of electricity per day, and: "roughly four million Iraqis, many of them children, are in dire need of food aid;...70 percent of the country lacks access to adequate water supplies, up from 50 percent in 2003; and...90 percent of the country's hospitals lack basic medical and surgical supplies43 percent of Iraqis live in 'absolute poverty,' earning less than $1 a dayUnemployment and hunger are particularly acute among the estimated two million people displaced internally from their homes by violence, many of whom are jobless, homeless and largely left on their own" The surge as > you said earlier was meant to give the Iraqi government and > it's people more security and breathing room. It has just > been in place and effect a couple of months and showing > promise but that is not enough for those that called it a > failure before it ever started, for political purposes. Nobody called it a failure before it started. Many thought it was highly unlikely to be successful, including top commanders in Iraq, who were forthwith replaced by Bush. As to whether there's any progress, according to Michael O'Hanlon's testimony yesterday before a House subcommittee, "progress has only been against aqi [Al Qaeda in Irag],...sectarian violence and the civil war is as bad as ever, and...the current strategy will probably fail." (I'm quoting Matthew Yglesias, who attended the hearing, on O'Hanlon's testimony.) O'Hanlon was strongly in favor of the war. The Democrats have set them selves up that > they need it to fail to stay in power. Bullshit. The war is already a failure. The Democrats don't want it to be an even *bigger* failure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would someone please seed these as torrents? > > > 1. MMY on Kundalini from Lake Louise, Canada 1968 > > http://www.box.net/shared/by1nmnoznv > > 2. MMY - Expressions ofIndividuality from Infinity - Humboldt > > http://www.box.net/shared/06vgkogoz2 > > 3. and 4. parts 1 and 2. Residence course with Satyanand and Jerry > Jarvis - Cape Cod, Mass 1968 > > Part 1: > > http://www.box.net/shared/v7sfm3vx4q > > Part 2: > > http://www.box.net/shared/dr9kyu9lxo WOW! Thankyou, thankyou, thankyoulistening as I write!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/31/07 11:49:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Whether the surge "works" or > > not, I just want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as > > a country to recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > *Nobody* is "invested in failure" in Iraq. Of all the > right's calumnies, that is perhaps the most unspeakably > vile. > > It's the old "stab in the back" strategy, dragged out > and dressed up in an effort to excuse the failures > that have already occurred. > > Flanigan's sentence says it all Judy. He doesn't care if > it works. He just wants it over and for us to say it solved > nothing. He wants us to RECOGNIZE that it solved nothing; that's already a fait accompli, and most Americans realize it by now. I'd add that it has not only solved nothing, it's created a vast mountain of new and significantly more dangerous problems. THAT is defeatism. It's no > stab in the back but a slap in the face, so drink your own > vile! Why couldn't flanigan have wished for it to be over > soon with a success? It's because success will show the > world never to trust the Democrats to follow through on > commitments. Success will show the Democrats to be > defeatists. As I said, the Democrats have way too much > invested in defeat. It has to happen for them to have any > power. You've just presented the "stab in the back" talking point very nicely, thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
jstein wrote: > The U.S. isn't in the middle of a civil war with a > largely nonfunctional/dysfunctional government. > Not to be nitpicking, but didn't you post recently that the U.S. was in the middle of a civil war in Iraq with a largely nonfunctional/dysfunctional government? And don't U.S. troops get to take a month off when they return to the States? And, doesn't it get kind of cold up there in Tikrit in the winter? Apparently they get lots of rain in Southern Iraq too. And, isn't it the fault of the Iraqi government that Iraqis have one to two hours of electricity per day? And, weren't roughly four million Iraqis, many of them children, in dire need of food aid during the U.N. embargo, while Saddam was building palaces? And, did you not once post that there were no al Qaeda in Iraq? And' did not Dingy Harry and Joe Biden say that the surge was a failure before it even started? And, didn't you misspell "them selves"? And, didn't you just post that the war against the terrorists is already a failure, setting the Democrats up to stay in power, thus making it an even bigger failure? And, isn't it true that you don't use much logic and like to nitpick about punctuation and spelling? What's up that bullshit? > > Parliament headed into a monthlong summer recess on Monday, > > halting work despite calls from the United States and the prime > > minister for lawmakers to shorten their break to push through > > important legislation. > > > > The decision to take off the month of August almost surely > > eliminates hopes that the 275-member Council of Representatives > > will pass laws sought by American officials as evidence that > > the country is making progress toward stability... > > > > The Iraqi Parliament was originally scheduled for a two month > > recess. They shortened it to one month, the same amount of time > > our Congress takes off each summer to "listen" to their > > constituents at home. > > The U.S. isn't in the middle of a civil war with a > largely nonfunctional/dysfunctional government. > And U.S. troops don't get to take a month off; they > have to continue to fight and die in the blistering > heat on their extended and repeated deployments, > whether the parliament for which they're trying to > provide breathing room so it can get something done > is around to actually get things done or has taken > off for a month of rest and relaxation out of the > heat. > > Rome wasn't built in a day > > and it took over a hundred years for us to guarantee the rights > > of freed slaves and give women the right to vote. > > The Iraqis are now down to one to two hours of > electricity per day, and: > > "roughly four million Iraqis, many of them children, > are in dire need of food aid;...70 percent of the > country lacks access to adequate water supplies, up > from 50 percent in 2003; and...90 percent of the > country's hospitals lack basic medical and surgical > supplies43 percent of Iraqis live in 'absolute > poverty,' earning less than $1 a dayUnemployment > and hunger are particularly acute among the estimated > two million people displaced internally from their > homes by violence, many of whom are jobless, homeless > and largely left on their own" > > The surge as > > you said earlier was meant to give the Iraqi government and > > it's people more security and breathing room. It has just > > been in place and effect a couple of months and showing > > promise but that is not enough for those that called it a > > failure before it ever started, for political purposes. > > Nobody called it a failure before it started. > Many thought it was highly unlikely to be > successful, including top commanders in Iraq, > who were forthwith replaced by Bush. > > As to whether there's any progress, according to > Michael O'Hanlon's testimony yesterday before a > House subcommittee, "progress has only been > against aqi [Al Qaeda in Irag],...sectarian > violence and the civil war is as bad as ever, > and...the current strategy will probably fail." > (I'm quoting Matthew Yglesias, who attended the > hearing, on O'Hanlon's testimony.) > > O'Hanlon was strongly in favor of the war. > > The Democrats have set them selves up that > > they need it to fail to stay in power. > > Bullshit. The war is already a failure. The > Democrats don't want it to be an even *bigger* > failure. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
Vaj wrote: > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana > and prana is the essence of life. > Yes, but doesn't the Sanskrit term "rasa" refer to the sacred ambrosia, sexual fluid, the essence of life, described in the Tantras? Rasa isn't mentioned in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras which predate the Tantras. 'The Alchemical Body: Siddha Traditions in Medieval India' by David Gordon White University Of Chicago Press, 1998 > Beyond that, I wouldn't read too much into it because his > knowledge of kundalini-vidya was clearly lacking. > Beyond that, I wouldn't read too much into it except to note that once again you've got your Indian history all mixed up. The Tantras were composed during the Gupta Age. The term prana in Hatha Yoga refers to the breath, not to rasa - rasa is nectar, a warm fluid, sometimes extracted from plants like the sacred mushroom and sometimes from women dakinis. 'Biographies of Rasik Saints' by H.D. Swami Prakashanand Saraswati ISDL, 1981 P.S. Have you ever considered using a standard Sanskrit lexicon? Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: 1 rasa m. the sap or juice of plants. Mercury, quicksilver (sometimes regarded as a kind of quintessence of the human body, else where as the seminal fluid of Shiva; semen virile RV. i, 105, 2. http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche
[FairfieldLife] Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) This is not a gotcha moment. I am trying to understand what you (and Rory -- its one body/mind/mouth) really mean when you describe your abilities -- and how far they reach. If you are able to "resolve" unwhole particles, nurturing , culturing or inducing wholeness in them, and hopefully "healing" traumatized and negativity imprisoned particles, Why don't you? Why don't you have wholeness, and/or your wholeness, swallow these errant particles -- making them whole? If you have these skills, why is the middles east not flourishing in peace? Same with your abilities to easily and swiftly fulfill all of your desires. Are you desires limited to a small domain of your localized relative life? Don't you desire lasting peace in the ME -- and throughout the world? Don't you wish for peace and prosperity in Darfur? Don't you desire to a ready and affordable solution to Global Warming? Don't you wish a light would turn on inside GWB? Don't you desire a cure for cancer? If you do desire these things, then it appears that your abilities to quickly and easily fulfill all desires is quite limited.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
On Aug 1, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Vaj wrote:
> Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana
> and prana is the essence of life.
>
Yes, but doesn't the Sanskrit term "rasa" refer to the sacred
ambrosia, sexual fluid, the essence of life, described in the
Tantras? Rasa isn't mentioned in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras which
predate the Tantras.
In this context rasa means "essence" (of some thing). I was not
referring to rasa-shastra.
'The Alchemical Body: Siddha Traditions in Medieval India'
by David Gordon White
University Of Chicago Press, 1998
> Beyond that, I wouldn't read too much into it because his
> knowledge of kundalini-vidya was clearly lacking.
>
Beyond that, I wouldn't read too much into it except to note
that once again you've got your Indian history all mixed up.
The Tantras were composed during the Gupta Age. The term
prana in Hatha Yoga refers to the breath, not to rasa - rasa
is nectar, a warm fluid, sometimes extracted from plants like
the sacred mushroom and sometimes from women dakinis.
Once again you show you utter lack of understanding and knowledge.
The tantras pre-date written history, Sanskrit and devanagari.
'Biographies of Rasik Saints'
by H.D. Swami Prakashanand Saraswati
ISDL, 1981
P.S. Have you ever considered using a standard Sanskrit
lexicon?
Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
1 rasa m. the sap or juice of plants. Mercury, quicksilver
(sometimes regarded as a kind of quintessence of the human
body, else where as the seminal fluid of Shiva; semen virile
RV. i, 105, 2.
http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche
Actually I use it fairly frequently, along with my own digitized,
searchable copy of Monier-Williams.
In Sanskrit translation, context is important, so therefore your
remarks are, as usual, deliberately misleading. If you look at the
first line of your aforementioned dictionary entry you would have
found the relevant definition:
"the best or finest or prime part of anything, essence"
And it would have been appropriate to include the entire entry:
rasa
m. (ifc. f. %{A}) the sap or juice of plants , Juice of fruit , any
liquid or fluid , the best or finest or prime part of anything ,
essence , marrow RV. &c. &c. ; water , liquor , drink MBh. Ka1v.
&c. ; juice of the sugar-cane , syrup Sus3r. ; any mixture ,
draught , elixir , potion R. BhP. ; melted butter L. ; (with or scil.
%{gavAm}) milk MBh. ; (with or scil. %{viSasya}) poison Das3. Ra1jat.
[869,3] ; nectar L. ; soup , broth L. ; a constituent fluid or
essential juice of the body , serum , (esp.) the primary juice called
chyle (formed from the food and changed by the bile into blood) ib. ;
mercury , quicksilver (sometimes regarded as a kind of quintessence
of the human body , else where as the seminal fluid of S3iva)
Sarvad. ; semen virile RV. i , 105 , 2 ; myrrh L. ; any mineral or
metallic salt Cat. ; a metal or mineral in a state of fusion (cf. %
{upa-} , %{mahA-r-}) ; gold L. ; Vanguieria Spinosa L. ; a species of
amaranth L. ; green onion L. ; resin L. ; = %{amRta} L. ; taste ,
flavour (as the principal quality of fluids , of which there are 6
original kinds , viz. %{madhura} , sweet ; %{amla} , sour ; %
{lavaNa} , salt ; %{kaTuka} , pungent ; %{tikta} , bitter ; and %
{kaSAya} , astringent ; sometimes 63 varieties are distinguished ,
viz. beside the 6 original ones , 15 mixtures of 2 , 20 of 3 , 15 of
4 , 6 of 5 , and 1 of 6 flavours) S3Br. &c. &c. ; N. of the number `"
six "' VarBr2S. S3rutab. ; any object of taste , condiment , sauce ,
spice , seasoning MBh. Ka1v. &c. ; the tongue (as the organ of taste)
BhP. ; taste or inclination or fondness for (loc. with or scil. %
{upari} , or comp.) , love , affection , desire MBh. Ka1v. &c. ;
charm pleasure , delight ib. ; (in rhet.) the taste or character of a
work , the feeling or sentiment prevailing in it (from 8 to 10 Rasas
are generally enumerated , viz. %{zRGgAra} , love ; %{vIra} ,
heroism ; %{bIbhatsa} , disgust ; %{raudra} , anger or fury ; %
{hAsya} , mirth ; %{bhayAnaka} , terror ; %{karuNa} , pity ; %
{adbhuta} , wonder ; %{zAnta} , tranquillity or contentment ; %
{vAtsalya} , paternal fondness ; the last or last two are sometimes
omitted ; cf. under %{bhAva}) Bhar. Das3ar. Ka1vya7d. &c. ; the
prevailing sentiment in human character Uttarar. Ra1jat. ; (with
Vaishn2avas) disposition of the heart or mind , religious sentiment
(there are 5 Rasas or Ratis forming the 5 degrees of %{bhakti} q.v. ,
viz. %{zAnti} , %{dAsya} , %{sAkhya} , %{vAtsalya} , and %{mAdhurya})
W. ; a kind of metre Pin3g. ; N. of the sacred syllable , `" Om , `"
S3a1n3khGr2. ; the son of a Nisha1da and a S3anaki1 L. ; (%{A}) f.
see s.v.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greenland getting colder, not warmer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Latest Scientific Studies Refute Fears of Greenland Melt > > > > > > > > > > Posted By Marc Morano Marc_Morano@ 9:39 AM ET > > > > > > > > > > > > Ha Ha Ha ... Couldn't find anyone more biased could you Shemp? > > > > > > > > > Whether I could or couldn't doesn't change the reality of whether > > > Greenland is getting colder. > > > > > > The overwhelming evidence that I've seen just about all over the MSM > > and the internet indicates that it's warming dramatically. You're > > clearly coming from ideology and not fact. > > > I say, and I say it again: > you been had. > > You been took. > > You been hoodwinked. > > Bamboozled. Led astray. > > Run amuck. You're the one who's bought the paid-for-propaganda by special interests, particularly Big Oil. You're the one who's willing to fuck the environment for a buck.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, in Judy's response to my "Scare Quotes redux" post, > I think we have a clear picture of how the "rules" Judy > tries to force others to follow with regard to language > don't apply to her. Nope, more fantasy. I don't try to "force" anybody to follow rules, number one; number two, as I pointed out in some detail and Barry has conveniently ignored, context plays a major role in determining what someone is implying. In context, it was clear I wasn't implying someone had said something they hadn't; in context, it's clear Barry was. > Let's tackle another subject -- overposting. Since the > establishment of the 35-post-per-week limit, Judy has > gone over that limit more times than she has abided by > it, and more than any other person on this forum. (You > can check this yourself using the Yahoo Advanced Search > feature if you don't trust me.) That's odd, given that Yahoo Advanced Search says I've made 422 posts in the 12 weeks the 35-post limit has been in effect, May 5 through July 27, a whopping 2 posts over the total limit for those 12 weeks (12 x 35 = 420). Gosh, I guess maybe we *shouldn't* trust Barry. > "We now have a policy that limits all members > to 35 posts a week. Members are responsible > for counting and restricting their own posts, > *but members who regularly exceed their weekly > quota will be put on moderated status*." > > So, Judy, you *have* gone over this limit regularly. > Are you now willing to be placed on moderated status, > or is this yet another example of how the rules that > apply to other people *don't* apply to you? If Rick wants to put me on moderated status for those two extra posts over the entire 12 weeks, he's certainly within his rights to do so. > Me, I don't care one way or another whether Judy is > placed on moderated status ROTFL! , but I do wish that she > and other posters who often go over their limits would > stop. Here's why. > > While the 35-post-per-week limit is arbitrary, it was > established for a *reason*. The reason was that some > folks (myself among them) had gotten obsessive about > posting to FFL And now Barry has become obsessive about counting other people's posts and making a huge deal of it when anybody goes over. > And I really do believe that it's a conscious decision. > How hard is it to keep a "tote sheet" of one's posts for > the week? I certainly do it, and it's no trouble at all. > Last week Judy leaped into the fray and used her last > posts of the week angrily defending Jim I made one single post in response to Barry's. when I mentioned > his overposting and poked fun at him for it; Of course, Barry didn't just "poke fun" at Jim; he nastily suggested Jim had ignored Rick's warning. she then went > on to overpost herself, unable to control herself. My single extra post so agitated Barry, who had reached his posting limit already, that he lost control and fired off an insulting private email to me. *After* > Jim's overposting had been pointed out to him a second time, > he went on to post twice more. He stopped as soon as he saw Barry's post. He'd missed Rick's warning. I'm sorry, but there is > something more than simple forgetfulness going on here. What's going on is that people are having a good time chatting and aren't freakishly obsessing about the number of posts they (and everyone else) have made, the way Barry is. > News flash, dudes -- authority doesn't come from claiming > it; it only comes from earning it. Show some respect for > the FFL community and you might earn their respect in return. > Continue to actively show your disrespect for and disdain > for that community, and you will incur the same in return. > It's just karma. Consider yours. 'Nuff said. Sorry, Barry, but you personally do not determine the respect of the FFL community. You're only one member; you don't speak for everybody else. As for your own status vis-a-vis the community, you might consider whether making patently false statements and misrepresenting what you and others have said and done (as in the post I'm responding to) is the sort of thing that's likely to earn you respect.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra (3,500 dollars?!)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "new7892001" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Just wondering, how much does a mantra cost these days? > > > $3,500.00 > > > > > > > When I got my first one (the second one from Maharishi himself, in > > 1971) I could manage financially. > > > > But now I heard that it costs around 2.500 dollars, (though there > is > > discount for families). > > If so, why so expensive? > > > > Filters out the riff-raff. > > > > > Is it only for the well-to-do folks? > > > > > Yes. > > We want only the best. > > > Arrogance, ignorance, business-greed and 'spirituality', a rather peculiar cocktail... a 'best'-glue impossible to transcend and get unstuck of, even by the TMers repeating the mantra while still waiting & hoping for 'Cosmic Consciousness', and contemplating the 'scientific charts and proofs', for the last 50 years. Fact, no? A top Raja in the hierarchy of TM, told me so, as well as of the power-tripping between teachers and Rajas and also that TMers are totally wrong thinking that repeating the mantra is enough - insight is what is necessary; an Ex top TM-Governer told me of the fake 'levitation' and the falsified commercial pictures. A rather corrupt affair. How sad! Heard?... MMY said at last Guru Purnam on TV that now, what's in, is doing more and more Puja, and also he suggested for the TM teachers to hurry up and get CC, or else the new born souls, who are very advanced spiritually will take over the scene and TM will be pushed in the background (and naturally out of business) and then how will the org. _get_ 'the best' and their money? > > > > > Best wishes, > > j.-- > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/J-Krishnamurti_andLife/ > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/25/07 11:19:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hi, > > Just wondering, how much does a mantra cost these days? > > When I got my first one (the second one from Maharishi himself, in > 1971) I could manage financially. > > But now I heard that it costs around 2.500 dollars, (though there is > discount for families). > If so, why so expensive? > Is it only for the well-to-do folks? > > Best wishes, > j.-- > > > > Hi J. my best guess is, M doesn't want it taught anymore but won't say "no" > to somebody who wants it so badly they are willing to part with a large sum > of money. Thank you for the explanation. > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >
[FairfieldLife] Chakras are the milestones on the path of kundalin...MMY.
"Sushumna, (passage) 1/100th width of a hair in spine,when nervous system is free of stresses the breath will flow from both nostrils." "Symbol of life force present in each living being." "Germ of life is like a serpent, it becomes awake." "6 chakras open gives clear experience of Being...that is called enlightenment." "1000 petal lotus (7th) full of light, full of awareness, pure being, then it is Cosmic Consciousness." MMY paraphrased. During 'conscious' transcending we will experience phenomenon associated with each chakra! Such as different sounds like bells, flutes, harps, etc. That's how we know we are actually transcending..Billyg.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
jstein wrote: > About time for the Republicans to follow that > very sage advice and get behind the Democrats' > lead in bringing an end to this catastrophe. > So, how many Democrats voted to use force to oust Saddam Hussien? Another question: Have the Democrats ever won a war?
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana and > prana is the essence of life. I think you meant 'prana' and 'apana'yes?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
MMY's out for his obvious failure in the fulfillment of his stated desires is that "Nature" guided it or that the people's "deservability" wasn't high enough. It reminds me of a story Peg Leg Sam the harmonica playing hobo told. He was playing to draw crowds for a medicine show where the guy was selling the legendary "snake oil". He told the people that it would cure snake bites and it was 500 times thinner than water so it would cure all ailments. He used to hold up a live rattler for attention but this time when he was putting it back in the box the snake bit him. As he was screaming for a doctor the crowd asked "why don't you just use your magical snake oil?" The crowd caught on that he wanted nothing to do with his own medicine and kept screaming for a real doctor. The crowd ran them both out of town! People selling "fulfillment of all desires" are exploiting a beautiful human ability to dream and have hope. Once you put in the stipulation that "nature" can override your desires or that people might not "deserve" the good you wish on them, you end up with a theory without falsifiability. Same rigged system with fulfillment of prayers, if it doesn't work it was God's will. Think anybody on a plane falling out of the sky ever tried praying their way out of it? How did that work out for them? Step right up, step right up... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > This is not a gotcha moment. I am trying to understand what you (and > Rory -- its one body/mind/mouth) really mean when you describe your > abilities -- and how far they reach. > > If you are able to "resolve" unwhole particles, nurturing , culturing > or inducing wholeness in them, and hopefully "healing" traumatized and > negativity imprisoned particles, Why don't you? Why don't you have > wholeness, and/or your wholeness, swallow these errant particles -- > making them whole? If you have these skills, why is the middles east > not flourishing in peace? > > Same with your abilities to easily and swiftly fulfill all of your > desires. Are you desires limited to a small domain of your localized > relative life? Don't you desire lasting peace in the ME -- and > throughout the world? Don't you wish for peace and prosperity in > Darfur? Don't you desire to a ready and affordable solution to Global > Warming? Don't you wish a light would turn on inside GWB? Don't you > desire a cure for cancer? > > If you do desire these things, then it appears that your abilities to > quickly and easily fulfill all desires is quite limited. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting
TurquoiseB wrote: > Ok, in Judy's response to my "Scare Quotes redux" post, > I think we have a clear picture of how the "rules" Judy > tries to force others to follow with regard to language > don't apply to her. I guess it's because she is "special." > [Scare quotes here...I don't mean to imply that Judy > *called* herself special, even though she clearly *does* > consider herself special.] > Barry, you are so *special* to post this about the nitpicker Judy. Now we have a clear picture of what you do when not visiting a flea market - overpost - yadda yadda yadda. Did I spell that right? Ok, so, what's up with this history of overposting to FFL? Sounds like you've either got a lot of time on your hands or you're on a big ego108 trip. Newsflash: Do you ever post any news about the comings-and-goings of the Maharish? You're over in France right? Couldn't you just rent a boxcar and drive up to Flea Town and check things out? If you did that, you'd be really *special*, in my opinion, since I seem to be the only respondent on this forum that has been inside a Maharishi Golden Dome in years. Now let's tackle another problem, Shoki: Why did you post all that mis-information about Buddhists? So what's *up* with that? > Let's tackle another subject -- overposting. Since the > establishment of the 35-post-per-week limit, Judy has > gone over that limit more times than she has abided by > it, and more than any other person on this forum. (You > can check this yourself using the Yahoo Advanced Search > feature if you don't trust me.) She has done so *regularly*. > Here are the FFL Guidelines on posting limits (emphasis mine): > > "We now have a policy that limits all members > to 35 posts a week. Members are responsible > for counting and restricting their own posts, > *but members who regularly exceed their weekly > quota will be put on moderated status*." > > So, Judy, you *have* gone over this limit regularly. > Are you now willing to be placed on moderated status, > or is this yet another example of how the rules that > apply to other people *don't* apply to you? > > Me, I don't care one way or another whether Judy is > placed on moderated status, but I do wish that she > and other posters who often go over their limits would > stop. Here's why. > > While the 35-post-per-week limit is arbitrary, it was > established for a *reason*. The reason was that some > folks (myself among them) had gotten obsessive about > posting to FFL, and were doing so hundreds of times > a week, flooding the newsgroup with their opinions > and their arguments, and ruining it for other people. > > Then came the 5-post limit, and then the (IMO better) > 35-per-week limit. And almost everyone abides by it. > Almost everyone. > > So what's *up* with these folks who get "carried away" > and post over their limit, especially the ones who do > so regularly? Is it *just* that, as Sal suggested last > week, they're so dumb that they can't count to 35? I > think not. I think the phenomenon has to do with three > things -- ego, ego, and ego. > > Ego1 is these posters' seeming belief that what they > have to say is so important that they have the "right" > to say it, no matter what anyone else thinks. > > Ego2 is an issue of self control, or rather the lack > of it. The 'repeat offenders' often not only reject > the idea of mindfulness or monitoring their behavior, > they reject it *angrily*, as if anyone who suggests > that they practice a little of it are fucking with > them personally, depriving them of their essential > human rights. From my perspective, what's really going > on is that they *can't* monitor their behavior; their > compulsions *run* them. They are locked into a compul- > sive "Gotta reply, gotta rebut, gotta attack those who > 'attack' me" syndrome. > > Ego3 has to do with respect. The 35-post-per-week limit > has been soundly applauded by most people on this forum. > Many who had previously fled have returned; voices that > had been silenced are beginning to speak up again. And > yet some are still trying to drown them out, and clearly > feeling that they have the right to do so, no matter > what the larger community feels. And that's the operative > word for Ego3 in my opinion -- community. The 'repeat > offenders' don't really *feel* a sense of community. They > act as if FFL revolves around *them*. There is a strong > *lack of respect* for others implicit in having made the > conscious decision to exceed the limit set by the FFL > community. > > And I really do believe that it's a conscious decision. > How hard is it to keep a "tote sheet" of one's posts for > the week? I certainly do it, and it's no trouble at all. > Last week Judy leaped into the fray and used her last > posts of the week angrily defending Jim when I mentioned > his overposting and poked fun at him for it; she then went > on to overpost herself, unable to control herself. *After* > Jim's over
[FairfieldLife] Short comment - what it is like to be enlightened
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Holly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Namaste Swami Siddhananda, > Namaste and Maha Shanti OM * It gives great calm (albeit currently insulated by absolute terror) > to have watched "you" enter the Lotus never to return. The words > spoken swaddle this one in comfort... walking firmly (but slowly) in > Faith now, since there is no other option. It is like being lost at > sea with no raft, no life jacket, no help in sight... nothing to > keep this one afloat. Eventually, the legs will tire and that dark > ocean I am floating in will overcome. However, no "one" will return > to the surface. Only the Ocean will remain. G no one returns but Life Begins - it is as if a whole other earth has been entered and yet nothing has changed on the surface. It is an amazing Mystery that takes place. > Lost at sea, > Sarojini Maha Shanti OM 0
[FairfieldLife] Amma on Fox TV
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[FairfieldLife] Re: finally, a tombstone for Bevan?
"Invincibility for America"?! ... a re-inforcement of Nationalistic consciousness and national Identity? Apparently the world is _already_ doing quite well, in that respect... does it need a monument and celebration? Will the mantra do it? Even TM teachers and Rajas are divided and fight between themselves, lost in power tripping, in spite of the 'statistics' of 'IF 1 in 1000... '-mantra. Money and armaments and national divisions... a sheer mad-house, but now in the name of 'spiritual' "crowning of invincibility" and towers, which all religions with their proud invincibility-self-image have already done, for aeons. Am sure that the Buddha, incl. Krishna are turning in their graves. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "George DeForest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maharishi's Extraordinary Gifts > > Culminating in a Tower of Invincibility Construction on the Maharishi > Tower of Invincibility began on June 17 and will be completed in time > for the Guru Purnima Celebration July 29. The Tower will be 45 feet > high and covered with inscriptions to commemorate the remarkable > achievements of the Invincible America Assembly. > > We are now completing the most significant year in the history of the > University and Maharishi's Worldwide Movement for the Transcendental > Meditation(r) program the year of the Invincible America Assembly to > crown America with permanent invincibility. > > The Assembly began on July 23, 2006, under the leadership of Dr. John > Hagelin and Dr. Bevan Morris, and by now everyone is aware of the > results the immediate and sustained upturn in the economy, the > rising support for peace among the American people and in Congress, > even the absence of hurricanes. > > And Maharishi has sent gift after gift hundreds of Yogic Flying > Vedic Pandits, the PurushaSM program, the Purusha Rajas, the Raj > Rajeshwaris. > > By far the most significant gift was his daily attention to the > Assembly, his personal guidance of "Number One" experiences > masterpieces of experience, as Maharishi called them which have been > so very fulfilling to him. In the course of his interactions with > Assembly participants, Maharishi has brought out knowledge he said he > had been waiting 50 years to say. His guidance has resulted in even > more profound depth of experience. > > So significant has this past year been that Maharishi has invited the > University to build a Maharishi Tower of Invincibility to commemorate > the magnificent achievements of the Invincible America Assembly for > all future generations. > > Since October 2006, nearly 500 Yogic Flying Vedic Pandits have joined > the Invincible America Assembly at Maharishi University of Management > and Maharishi Vedic City. > > The Maharishi Tower of Invincibility will be one of the campus's most > striking features. Dr. Eike Hartmann has designed a square structure > 45 feet high, with a stepped dome and a golden Kalash. Each of the > four sides is 15 feet wide and will be covered with inscribed white > marble panels: > > The eastern panel will celebrate Guru Dev, His Divinity Brahmananda > Saraswati, through whose grace the Invincible America Assembly has > dawned. > > The second panel will honor Maharaja Nader Raam, His Excellency Dr. > Bevan Morris, and His Excellency Dr. John Hagelin. > > The third panel will honor the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for > an Invincible America, which has provided financial support for the > establishment of a permanent group of at least 2,500 Yogic Flyers in > the United States. > > The fourth panel will honor Maharishi University of Management and all > those who gave their service and generous gifts to make the Invincible > America Assembly possible. > > The Maharishi Tower of Invincibility is positioned on the hill between > the two Golden Domes. It will be surrounded by a beautiful garden and > viewing areas, with four powerful searchlights aimed into the sky. The > steel structure is being erected and the white marble tiles are being > placed even now. > > Maharishi is deeply inspired by the building of the Maharishi Tower of > Invincibility and is now asking others around the world to also create > similar Maharishi Towers of Invincibility in their countries. Join us > in inaugurating the first Tower July 29. > > > Entire contents copyright > (c)2007 Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. > All rights reserved. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
jim wrote: > I don't want it to be for nothing, > But, what have you done to help win the war? Have you served in the military or made any sacrifices? Do you vote? > so I can blah, blah, blah... > > The reality of it, and any other war in the Middle > East is that it IS for nothing. > So, you admit that we are in a war. > There will never be a democracy established in Iraq by > killing. Think about it-- there were maybe 50,000 so-called > insurgents in Iraq when this mess started, yet the casualties > inflicted have reached by some estimates one million Iraqis. > So, how many people did Saddam kill? Two million? Hitler killed five million; Pol Pot killed three million; when the Dems cut off defensive funds to Vietnam, millions were killed. How many have been killed in Darfur while you stood by and din nothing? At some point you have to stand up and try to do something. Has there ever been anything you believed in enough to stand up and fight for it? > Even if half of those were innocent men, women and children, > that still leaves a half million fighting us. Where are they > coming from? > >From a Muscleman school? > I'll tell you-- we are breeding them, > So, you are breeding them. > by invading their country and killing their families. > Invade their country and kill all the terrorists and their families, yes, that is the idea. Establish democracy in the Middle East, just like we did in Germany and in Japan and Korea. Just like we will have to do in Darfur and in Iran and in Pakistan, sooner or later. > How we magically manifest a democratic country out of that > is someone's fanciful and twisted dream, but it > sure isn't reality. > So, how many years has the U.S. had military troops in Germany, Japan, and Korea, Jim? Fifty years? > And my odds are on reality.:-) > Magic or reality? You will never bring peace to the Middle East teaching the terrorists how to bounce on their bums - my odds are that this will never happen. How much would you be willing to wager?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:21 AM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana and > prana is the essence of life. I think you meant 'prana' and 'apana'yes? No.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:21 AM, BillyG. wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana and > > > prana is the essence of life. > > > > I think you meant 'prana' and 'apana'yes? > > > No. Thought you were talking about the ascending and descending currents of prana, but I was mistaken, you are correct prana is the essense of life. I stand corrected...btw, thanks for the great audio Mucho Gracias!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
jstein wrote: > You've just presented the "stab in the back" talking > point very nicely, thank you. > The stab in the back are all those congressional leaders who voted to go to war against Iraq and now say they didn't mean to go to war with Iraq, the Dems and Pubs and people like you. The Dems could have prevented the mistake in the first place if they have not voted to authorize the President to use force against Saddam. The Dems could have prevented 9-11 if they had done their job. The Dems could have won the war in Korea and in Vietnam if they weren't such back-stabbers. The Dems could have provided U.N. food aid in Somalia instead of retreating like cowards from Mohamed Farrah Aidid. > > *Nobody* is "invested in failure" in Iraq. Of all the > > right's calumnies, that is perhaps the most unspeakably > > vile. > > > > It's the old "stab in the back" strategy, dragged out > > and dressed up in an effort to excuse the failures > > that have already occurred. > > > > Flanigan's sentence says it all Judy. He doesn't care if > > it works. He just wants it over and for us to say it solved > > nothing. > > > He wants us to RECOGNIZE that it solved nothing; that's > already a fait accompli, and most Americans realize it > by now. > Stop the lying, Judy. Over 50% of voting Americans voted for Bush AFTER the Iraq invasion. Over 90% of Republican voters still support the war. 99% of all congressional leaders voted to use force to oust Saddam. The U.S. congress voted aginst de-funding the war effort in Iraq. > I'd add that it has not only solved nothing, > It has solved the question of who is willing to fight to win a war. > it's created a vast mountain of new and > To vote to go to war, then vote to retreat in defeat before winning the war, is not only a back-stab and a slap-in-the-face to every fighting soldier, it is a national shame. > significantly more dangerous problems. > And you want to give the federal government the job of providing national health care? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Fox TV
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HYPERLINK > "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kWVzrLQb4"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=- > 0kWVzrLQb4 Very nice report. My wife and I went to see Amma yesterday here in Rio. There was a huge crowd of about 3,000. The atmosphere was very 'at home'. My wife and I are both TMers and really enjoyed getting a hug from Amma.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
> > The Tantras were composed during the Gupta Age. > > Vaj wrote: > The tantras pre-date written history, > How would you be knowing anything about anything before written history in India in an age millions of years ago? You need to get some smarts, Vaj, there were no tantras before written history, because there was no written history before the invention of writing. Before written history is pre-history. History in India begins with the historical Buddha. Writing in India dates from the 2nd century B.C. > > P.S. Have you ever considered using a standard Sanskrit > > lexicon? > > > If you look at the first line of your aforementioned dictionary > entry you would have found the relevant definition: > > "the best or finest or prime part of anything, essence" > That's what I said: sexual fluid and nectar of mushroom - the prime part, the essence of life. It's in the tantras. Have you ever read a tantra, Vaj? > And it would have been appropriate to include the entire > entry: > So, where does it say in the dictionary say that rasa means prana - life force? In fact, there is no such thing as prana - that's part of an Indian myth. There is no "force" that exists outside existence that enters into human life and causes change at will - that's magic. There is cause and effect; sexual activity involving rasa: one thing leads to another. That's tantra in a nutshell. Never heard of anyone getting pregnant smelling someone else's bad breath. No kundalini snake, no magic breath, just rasa and activity alternated with rest. It's that simple. > > Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: > > > > 1 rasa m. the sap or juice of plants. Mercury, quicksilver > > (sometimes regarded as a kind of quintessence of the human > > body, else where as the seminal fluid of Shiva; semen virile > > RV. i, 105, 2. > > > > http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/31/07 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > >> I couldn't agree more with the above paragraph. Could you imagine our >> > children going to school in the morning hoping they come home alive by the > end of > the day. Americans have no idea just how bad it is. Something has got to > give by the end of the Fall season in Iraq or we need to get out of there el > pronto. > > > > Yes, this is the Democrat view. They want a defeat so they can say it was > all for nothing. > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > So what do you actually think this stupid Iraq war is about, Dixie? It's their country. We don't belong there. We messed it up. We can offer to help clean up the mess under the Iraqis supervision but they seem to prefer we leave. I was against this war from the start and even as it was being proposed. I know the mindset of a tyrant and George W. Bush is a tyrant. He and his administration deserves no support from the citizens of the United States. He belongs in a prison along with the rest of his cohorts. This is about oil. It is about lining the pockets of the rich and if you're stupid enough to think your pockets are going to get lined along the way for sucking up to them then you truly are a fool. You along with the Republicans and NeoCons now have the karma of having destroyed the United States. May you rest in hell.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
On Aug 1, 2007, at 12:02 PM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:21 AM, BillyG. wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana and > > > prana is the essence of life. > > > > I think you meant 'prana' and 'apana'yes? > > > No. Thought you were talking about the ascending and descending currents of prana, but I was mistaken, you are correct prana is the essense of life. I stand corrected...btw, thanks for the great audio Mucho Gracias! Actually William108 shared that, and he tells me he has more on the way.
[FairfieldLife] Disciple told surrender if enlightenment is desired
> Namaste dear Swami G. Namaste and Maha Shanti OM * I think I would take some time to think things over. G OK you do that. * Right now it is very hard for me to surrender to You. G there has never been Surrender - not now - not before. there was a pull of heart but not Surrender. Perhaps on one level there is still some pull of Heart to some degree. * I hope that would change but I don't see anything I can do to change this situation right now. G this is your choice. * I understand that without surrender there would be no evolution but I can't fake it. G This is a choice to be sure. Being argumentative is also a choice. * I also can't just let go by closing the eyes and telling myself to let go. I need help to surrender and even though I know You are able and willing to help I am not in a situation in which I am open enough to receive help from You. G this has been quite obvious for quite some time. Ego doesn't want to Surrender anything. Ego doesn't want to Surrender anywhere. * This is very unfortunate but it is as it is. The change must come from some outside help because I can not do it myself. G Sorry but this is an absolute crap-itis answer and here is why. There was a Guru - a Swami from the South. He had one methodology there were no mantras given - no energy work - no teachings - no Satsang. i think while in Mexico you saw this book. But his only methodology was that through the path of Karma Yoga and Surrender. Surrender came at a price as his disciple Had to commit to being with him (leaving his job - and all he had behind) - He said to this potential disciple Do you want to be my Sadhaka ? And he Had to decide in That moment with no turning back. Either yes or no. He choose yes. He wasn't even allowed to go back home to tell his wife right away. He had been a very successful buisness up to that point. One that was in charge. Now what was this Methodology to learn Surrender - Listen - Follow through and what Work is given you to do - And SHUT UP. There is not one instant of opening ones mouth in complaining or argument. Do you think this was easy for one who had always been the boss up to that point. Do you think that Surrender came from outside or inside ? His methdology was through Work - Hard Work - and no questions were allowed to be asked - the answer was simply Yes Swamiji - Yes Guruji. Now this was not easy - at first his mind raced and anger welled up but he held his tongue and the continued friction within without gaining an outlet to expression started to work it's wonders. He did progress and as the friction wore away the energy turned from resistance to that of Heart Opening. Surrender is a Choice - do you want to have an external methodology of gaining Surrender then it would have to be something this extreme to break through the hard headed mentality of ego. That Guru - that Swami had a very hard methodology but it is one that can work. Karma Yoga - Constant Seva without complaint - without anywhere for negative expression to emmergy - the mind simply must endure it's own caustic nature until it finally stills in Surrender. Because there is NO Argument and one self implodes through their own energy like the snake that eats it's own tail and continues eating until there is nothing left. Now this is a hard way to do the path - it can work - but Nothing is given to sustain one. No Balanced Breath - No mantra - No Satsang - Nothing but Surrender - Surrender - and more Surrender of the mind and willingness of the Heart. Surrender at first is an action of determination. Just like being in a convent or any religious place of commitment one has to Surrender to what is given AS it is given and there is not one moment of argumentiveness that will take place. No monk - No nun - No one in any type of a religious order would ever be allowed to embrace one moment of this type of behavior. Surrender is adopted the hard way. It isn't just well whatever comes that i want to do i will do and the rest will get blown off. When in an order OR an committed Ashram one does what is given Without complaint and Surrender is entered into Freely as a way to wear down ego's posturing. i was way to lax in allowing your nonsense of arumentivity in mexico - and so it has continued. And this idea that it is simply a jewish trait is another justification for Not bending ones head or knee in humility. You stand with knees locked. How long will Ego continue to posture ? Do you want egos crown or to enter Realization and Liberation ? The reason it is so tough in monastery's and ashrams is to break through egos tough hide to the softness within. * There is nothing much I can do but maybe pray for help and hope for the best. G there is much you can do - it is to Shut Up - bend the Knee - and recognise that you are not the teacher, and if you knew the way and were out of suffering you would not be here. But you ARE here. You say
[FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra
Bhairitu wrote: > Of course you can get good meditation techniques for less > than that these days. > Which meditation techniques do you consider to be good? Are they easy and simple to learn? Can they help a person learn to transcend? Do they include free checking for life? And, where would a person get them these days and where would all the money go? Can you be specific? At my age, I'm not much interested in left-handed basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense syllables or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating on the tip of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony Robbins course or get audited by a Scientologist. It costs over $1500 just to take a one day computer course these days. The average tuition for university is over $15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could cost a person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a bargain to me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru cult like you and some others did.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra
In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation for $150.00. A mantra is selected from the birth information. It can be taught over the phone also. A follow up consultation a week later to answer further questions and a CD for listening in the first week to make sure the practice is going well. It differs from TM because the mantra is selected from the birth information. TM teachers are not astrologically trained. There is no need for a puja so the religious part of the practice is left solely up to the person who is learning. For more information on me go to _Astrological Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) I can be reached at 641-469-3521 if you have interest and need more questions asked. Bhairitu wrote: > Of course you can get good meditation techniques for less > than that these days. > Which meditation techniques do you consider to be good? Are they easy and simple to learn? Can they help a person learn to transcend? Do they include free checking for life? And, where would a person get them these days and where would all the money go? Can you be specific? At my age, I'm not much interested in left-handed basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense syllables or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating on the tip of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony Robbins course or get audited by a Scientologist. It costs over $1500 just to take a one day computer course these days. The average tuition for university is over $15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could cost a person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a bargain to me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru cult like you and some others did. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: Disciple told surrender if enlightenment is desired
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste dear Swami G. > > > > Namaste and Maha Shanti OM > > > > > > * I think I would take some time to think things over. > > > > G OK you do that. > > > > * Right now it is very hard for me to surrender to You. > > > > G there has never been Surrender - not now - not before. > > there was a pull of heart but not Surrender. Perhaps on > > one level there is still some pull of Heart to some degree. > > > > * I hope that would change but I don't see anything I can do > > to change this situation right now. > > > > G this is your choice. > > This is 100% correct in my experience too-- the caveat being that > the seeker must be 100% comfortable with the Guru. My choice was > easy- Brahmananda Saraswati began mainfesting visibly in my > conciousness, and the rest followed. Though it was sometimes really > tough just having Him on one side and what appeared to be completely > the wrong thing to do on the other, and as I said earlier just > jumping, and trusting.:-) In my spiritual queries to Guru Dev, I once asked him what Maharishi is doing these days because it appears to be very much *other* than what my meditation experience tells me is right. The answer I got was not to bother about Maharishi. What he's doing has nothing to do with me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 8:48:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nobody called it a failure before it started. Many thought it was highly unlikely to be successful, including top commanders in Iraq, who were forthwith replaced by Bush. Henry Reid, on the Senate floor, called it a failure before all the troops in the surge had even gotten to Iraq. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra
Just what I want, a mantra empowered by the shakti of willytext! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation > for $150.00. A mantra is > selected from the birth information. It can be > taught over the phone also. A > follow up consultation a week later to answer > further questions and a CD for > listening in the first week to make sure the > practice is going well. It > differs from TM because the mantra is selected from > the birth information. TM > teachers are not astrologically trained. There is no > need for a puja so the > religious part of the practice is left solely up to > the person who is learning. > For more information on me go to _Astrological > Varieties_ > (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) I can be reached > at 641-469-3521 if you have interest and need > more questions asked. > > > > > Bhairitu wrote: > > Of course you can get good meditation techniques > for less > > than that these days. > > > Which meditation techniques do you consider to be > good? Are > they easy and simple to learn? Can they help a > person learn > to transcend? Do they include free checking for > life? And, > where would a person get them these days and where > would > all the money go? Can you be specific? > > At my age, I'm not much interested in left-handed > basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense > syllables > or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating on > the tip > of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony > Robbins > course or get audited by a Scientologist. > > It costs over $1500 just to take a one day computer > course > these days. The average tuition for university is > over > $15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could > cost > a person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning > TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a > bargain to > me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru cult > like you > and some others did. > > > > > > > > > > ** Get a sneak > peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Funnily enough, since only the Absolute is/isn't, every action, > ultimately, is divine. The Judy/Turq war being a case in point. > For some reason, those who come here need this sort of posting. > I, for one, apologize that my presence here, somehow, is > promoting this battle and these two innocents must suffer the > role of being my teachers about this issue. Glad you finally stepped up and took responsibility for it, dude. :-) It's been a tough, compassionate road pretending to battle the battleaxe all this time, but I knew that you needed to see it and learn from it, so there you jolly well are, aren't you? If the God-dude commands it, what right have I got to refuse? :-) :-) :-) Seriously, I *know* it's embarrassing. I'm not sure Judy does. After these last two replies of hers, now that I've got a clear, unequivocal idea of *exactly* how honest she is, I don't really foresee the need to interact with her much more. Let us hope this turns out to be the case, even if it forces you to turn to the Jerry Springer Show for your hit of conflict. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Disciple told surrender if enlightenment is desired
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Namaste dear Swami G. > > Namaste and Maha Shanti OM > > > * I think I would take some time to think things over. > > G OK you do that. > > * Right now it is very hard for me to surrender to You. > > G there has never been Surrender - not now - not before. > there was a pull of heart but not Surrender. Perhaps on > one level there is still some pull of Heart to some degree. > > * I hope that would change but I don't see anything I can do > to change this situation right now. > > G this is your choice. This is 100% correct in my experience too-- the caveat being that the seeker must be 100% comfortable with the Guru. My choice was easy- Brahmananda Saraswati began mainfesting visibly in my conciousness, and the rest followed. Though it was sometimes really tough just having Him on one side and what appeared to be completely the wrong thing to do on the other, and as I said earlier just jumping, and trusting.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not a gotcha moment. I am trying to understand what you (and > Rory -- its one body/mind/mouth) really mean when you describe your > abilities -- and how far they reach. I am not in full agreement with Jim's statement above -- I certainly see where he is coming from, and I (moderately) support him in his desires, but more immediately I completely support the indescribable perfection of the status quo :-) > If you are able to "resolve" unwhole particles, nurturing , culturing > or inducing wholeness in them, and hopefully "healing" traumatized and > negativity imprisoned particles, Why don't you? Why don't you have > wholeness, and/or your wholeness, swallow these errant particles -- > making them whole? I am doing this constantly, with the particles who actually wish to surrender into me :-) >If you have these skills, why is the middles east > not flourishing in peace? Not everyone wants peace, and everyone is busily manifesting their own "paradise" from their actual desires. And really any time we are in pain and attack another, from believing in a "should" thought, a thought in rebellion against what IS, we ourselves are not at peace; we are contributing to war :-) > Same with your abilities to easily and swiftly fulfill all of your > desires. Are you desires limited to a small domain of your localized > relative life? Don't you desire lasting peace in the ME -- and > throughout the world? Don't you wish for peace and prosperity in > Darfur? Don't you desire to a ready and affordable solution to Global > Warming? Don't you wish a light would turn on inside GWB? Don't you > desire a cure for cancer? I am certainly not against any of these possibilities, and I'll be happy to see many of them unfold in due time, but I am fully content with all these things as they are in this moment -- I *LOVE* the way all these things are in this moment; it is all radiantly perfect, divine -- simply because it all IS. Resisting what IS in this moment only creates stress and suffering. As BK says (slightly paraphrased), "I don't argue with what IS; that's God, and I don't argue with God; I only lose 100% of the time!" :-) > If you do desire these things, then it appears that your abilities to > quickly and easily fulfill all desires is quite limited. I don't desire any of these things in this moment; my desires are generally pretty closely in line with what IS. When we passionately love what IS, then what-IS passionately loves us, and that's how the desires we do have are miraculously fulfilled so quickly and easily :-) *L*L*L*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
The ancient rishis could do anything, it's said. Rama's guru could have snapped his fingers, and Sita would have been returned, and Ravana squashed, but nope. Why didn't that happen? Ramana Maharshi says, "Those guys don't care about anything." That said, Krishna does care about the evil afoot and intervened via stooge Arjuna. Go figure. I guess Krishna, as an avatar, is of differing ilk than seers etc. Once enlightened, whatever desires appear to others to be "still a sign of attachment" are to be considered sattvic, we're told, because they're coming from the Absolute not an ego. If this is true, then an unenlightened person's egoic expectations and predictions of an "enlightened one's ego" will necessarily be wrong/limited. To fault Rory for "not living up to" localized, meat robot definitions shows a certain lack of clarity about the basic concept that, once enlightened, no local ego is responsible for any thinking that happens. If the enlightened person wants a 12 ounce steak, medium rare, it is not a case of the local ego "still sinning," but instead, it's understood to be one of those "exceptions to the rule" situations, and the enlightened person is given a "karmic free pass" in that, for reasons unknown, the Absolute needs an enlightened person to mess up and this will fulfill some esoteric need of manifestion -- a good thing even if it seems bad to the entire world of local egos. Arjuna's martial arts guru was on the evil side. When Arjuna asked why, he said, "To prove even an enlightened person cannot take the side of evil and win." He said this with enough arrows sticking in him that he couldn't fall to the ground. He asked for three arrows to prop up his head as he dieda pillow of points. Funnily enough, since only the Absolute is/isn't, every action, ultimately, is divine. The Judy/Turq war being a case in point. For some reason, those who come here need this sort of posting. I, for one, apologize that my presence here, somehow, is promoting this battle and these two innocents must suffer the role of being my teachers about this issue. Same deal with Hitler etc. But who has the nerve to tell a Jew that maybe Hitler was merely a karmic pawn, that six million souls decided to "hide from karma" disguising themselves as sweet natured, deeply religious, largely innocent personalities, but they had to be rooted out and it took a crazy house painter to do it? Arjuna wipes out a whole sector of his society, let's call it what it was -- genocide and ethnic cleansing -- and he's a hero. Moses kills whole tribes and he's a hero. Hitler follows his "inner vision of a perfect world," and we're all using him as our model for evil incarnate. Not that Hitler was enlightened, not that Judy and Turq are not. If I could go back in time, I'd put a cap in Hit's ass for sure, but even now I cannot say for sure that that would be an evolutionary act. I've been enthralled with the concept of "perfection," but now I see that I wouldn't know it if I saw it, and if I did see it, I won't have any way to prove it. Why bother? "That's the question" -- Hamlet. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > This is not a gotcha moment. I am trying to understand what you (and > Rory -- its one body/mind/mouth) really mean when you describe your > abilities -- and how far they reach. > > If you are able to "resolve" unwhole particles, nurturing , culturing > or inducing wholeness in them, and hopefully "healing" traumatized and > negativity imprisoned particles, Why don't you? Why don't you have > wholeness, and/or your wholeness, swallow these errant particles -- > making them whole? If you have these skills, why is the middles east > not flourishing in peace? > > Same with your abilities to easily and swiftly fulfill all of your > desires. Are you desires limited to a small domain of your localized > relative life? Don't you desire lasting peace in the ME -- and > throughout the world? Don't you wish for peace and prosperity in > Darfur? Don't you desire to a ready and affordable solution to Global > Warming? Don't you wish a light would turn on inside GWB? Don't you > desire a cure for cancer? > > If you do desire these things, then it appears that your abilities to > quickly and easily fulfill all desires is quite limited. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Funnily enough, since only the Absolute is/isn't, every action, > > ultimately, is divine. The Judy/Turq war being a case in point. > > For some reason, those who come here need this sort of posting. > > I, for one, apologize that my presence here, somehow, is > > promoting this battle and these two innocents must suffer the > > role of being my teachers about this issue. > > Glad you finally stepped up and took responsibility > for it, dude. :-) > > It's been a tough, compassionate road pretending to > battle the battleaxe all this time, but I knew that > you needed to see it and learn from it, so there > you jolly well are, aren't you? If the God-dude > commands it, what right have I got to refuse? > > :-) :-) :-) > > Seriously, I *know* it's embarrassing. I'm not sure > Judy does. After these last two replies of hers, now > that I've got a clear, unequivocal idea of *exactly* > how honest she is, I don't really foresee the need > to interact with her much more. Let us hope this > turns out to be the case, even if it forces you to > turn to the Jerry Springer Show for your hit of > conflict. :-) Good Lord. What a load of horseshit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 8:48:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Democrats have set them selves up that > they need it to fail to stay in power. Bullshit. The war is already a failure. The Democrats don't want it to be an even *bigger* failure. Judy what will be the future of the Democrat Party if the surge should succeed and the Iraqi government makes significant strides in reconciliation within the next 6 months to a year, before the US presidential elections? Do you think Democrats will fair well in the elections? ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just what I want, a mantra empowered by the shakti of > willytext! You might try "Nuck'n Futs" After a few hundred reps it might give you your answer! > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation > > for $150.00. A mantra is > > selected from the birth information. It can be > > taught over the phone also. A > > follow up consultation a week later to answer > > further questions and a CD for > > listening in the first week to make sure the > > practice is going well. It > > differs from TM because the mantra is selected from > > the birth information. TM > > teachers are not astrologically trained. There is no > > need for a puja so the > > religious part of the practice is left solely up to > > the person who is learning. > > For more information on me go to _Astrological > > Varieties_ > > (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) I can be reached > > at 641-469-3521 if you have interest and need > > more questions asked. > > > > > > > > > > Bhairitu wrote: > > > Of course you can get good meditation techniques > > for less > > > than that these days. > > > > > Which meditation techniques do you consider to be > > good? Are > > they easy and simple to learn? Can they help a > > person learn > > to transcend? Do they include free checking for > > life? And, > > where would a person get them these days and where > > would > > all the money go? Can you be specific? > > > > At my age, I'm not much interested in left-handed > > basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense > > syllables > > or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating on > > the tip > > of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony > > Robbins > > course or get audited by a Scientologist. > > > > It costs over $1500 just to take a one day computer > > course > > these days. The average tuition for university is > > over > > $15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could > > cost > > a person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning > > TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a > > bargain to > > me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru cult > > like you > > and some others did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** Get a sneak > > peek of the all-new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
I posted and hosted, however the original transfer from tapes to digital was done by William108 on this list, who very kindly has agreed to share his private collection of audio tapes. On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:32 PM, qntmpkt wrote: --Vaj, were you the person who posted the audio addresses? Thanks. I forwarded the addresses to Jerry Jarvis - he says he's very grateful. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:21 AM, BillyG. wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana and > > > prana is the essence of life. > > > > I think you meant 'prana' and 'apana'yes? > > > No. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 8:50:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > > > > Do you really want it to be for nothing?:) Why don't you want it to be a > success? > I don't want it to be for nothing, so I can blah, blah, blah...The Well, I really don't blame you for contradicting yourself here. It is embarrassing to admit you want our country to fail in it's efforts to bring a functioning Democracy to a troubled part of the world. Your only concern is for us to get out and say we accomplished nothing. Perhaps you think a full scale retreat and defeat along with feeling of guilt would be of more benefit to the United States and the world than a full scale victory of leaving Iraq with a reconciled functioning democratic government that is capable of maintaining it's own security. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 12:02 PM, BillyG. wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:21 AM, BillyG. wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of > > prana and > > > > > prana is the essence of life. > > > > > > > > I think you meant 'prana' and 'apana'yes? > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > Thought you were talking about the ascending and descending currents > > of prana, but I was mistaken, you are correct prana is the essense of > > life. I stand corrected...btw, thanks for the great audio Mucho > > Gracias! > > > Actually William108 shared that, and he tells me he has more on the way. Manthat's great, beautiful glimpses into the early movement!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 8:48:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Nobody called it a failure before it started. > Many thought it was highly unlikely to be > successful, including top commanders in Iraq, > who were forthwith replaced by Bush. > > > > Henry Reid, on the Senate floor, called it a failure before all the troops > in the surge had even gotten to Iraq. Harry Reid represents the views of the vast majority of the American people. The fast dwindling numbers of ideological Kool-Aid poisoned war-mongers like you, don't.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > > > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > > > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > new.morning wrote: > > > This is not a gotcha moment. I am trying to understand what you (and > > Rory -- its one body/mind/mouth) really mean when you describe your > > abilities -- and how far they reach. > > I am not in full agreement with Jim's statement above -- I certainly > see where he is coming from, and I (moderately) support him in his > desires, but more immediately I completely support the indescribable > perfection of the status quo :-) > Let me just say that I am voicing my feeling aboput this war in an entirely selfish way, that it irritates me, and seems like such a low life thing for us humans to do. I am not condemning those who see it as necessary or those caught up in it, for as Rory says, that stuff has to go on just because it does, and I am completely in agreement with that. However I find the whole thing unpleasant and messy and wish to make my self heard in that regard. More as a catalyst than anything else. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 8:48:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > The Democrats have set them selves up that > > they need it to fail to stay in power. > > Bullshit. The war is already a failure. The > Democrats don't want it to be an even *bigger* > failure. > > > > Judy what will be the future of the Democrat Party When you're speaking to me, you'll use the correct name of the party, or you won't receive a response. Do you understand? ] if the surge should > succeed and the Iraqi government makes significant strides in reconciliation > within the next 6 months to a year, before the US presidential elections? Do you > think Democrats will fair well in the elections? > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Disciple told surrender if enlightenment is desired
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Swami G. > > > > > > Namaste and Maha Shanti OM > > > > > > > > > * I think I would take some time to think things over. > > > > > > G OK you do that. > > > > > > * Right now it is very hard for me to surrender to You. > > > > > > G there has never been Surrender - not now - not before. > > > there was a pull of heart but not Surrender. Perhaps on > > > one level there is still some pull of Heart to some degree. > > > > > > * I hope that would change but I don't see anything I can do > > > to change this situation right now. > > > > > > G this is your choice. > > > > This is 100% correct in my experience too-- the caveat being that > > the seeker must be 100% comfortable with the Guru. My choice was > > easy- Brahmananda Saraswati began mainfesting visibly in my > > conciousness, and the rest followed. Though it was sometimes really > > tough just having Him on one side and what appeared to be completely > > the wrong thing to do on the other, and as I said earlier just > > jumping, and trusting.:-) > > > In my spiritual queries to Guru Dev, I once asked him what Maharishi > is doing these days because it appears to be very much *other* than > what my meditation experience tells me is right. The answer I got was > not to bother about Maharishi. What he's doing has nothing to do with me. > He knows you well.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 8:50:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I > just > > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > > > > > > > > > Do you really want it to be for nothing?:) Why don't you want it > to be a > > success? > > > I don't want it to be for nothing, so I can blah, blah, blah...The > > > > Well, I really don't blame you for contradicting yourself here. It is > embarrassing to admit you want our country to fail in it's efforts to bring a > functioning Democracy to a troubled part of the world. Your only concern is for > us to get out and say we accomplished nothing. Perhaps you think a full scale > retreat and defeat along with feeling of guilt would be of more benefit to > the United States and the world than a full scale victory of leaving Iraq with > a reconciled functioning democratic government that is capable of > maintaining it's own security. > if democracy results there tomorrow, I am all for it and I will laud your praises as the prescient one among us. However, if it doesn't occur tomorrow, I will feel sadness for those who continue to die for this "grand experiment". Won't you??:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I posted and hosted, however the original transfer from tapes to > digital was done by William108 on this list, who very kindly has > agreed to share his private collection of audio tapes. > I really appreciate the sharing on both your parts, and look forward to examining this bit of treasure. Thank you Vaj, and William108. Are you planning to offer more of the recordings?:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
--Vaj, were you the person who posted the audio addresses? Thanks. I forwarded the addresses to Jerry Jarvis - he says he's very grateful. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:21 AM, BillyG. wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Yes, that's because kundalini is the essence (rasa) of prana and > > > prana is the essence of life. > > > > I think you meant 'prana' and 'apana'yes? > > > No. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Fox TV
In a message dated 8/1/2007 12:19:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Amma is a huge blessing. Even the reporters on Fox news by the end of this report where moved by her and her followers generosity. What a wonderful break from all of the negative news reports. And the million dollars to the Katrina victims in America is so wonderful. Thanks for sharing this with us Rick. Lsoma. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HYPERLINK > "_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kWVzrLQb4) "_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhtt_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-) > 0kWVzrLQb4 Very nice report. My wife and I went to see Amma yesterday here in Rio. There was a huge crowd of about 3,000. The atmosphere was very 'at home'. My wife and I are both TMers and really enjoyed getting a hug from Amma. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra
In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:30:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Googie, Googie. JGD Just what I want, a mantra empowered by the shakti of willytext! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > > > I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation > for $150.00. A mantra is > selected from the birth information. It can be > taught over the phone also. A > follow up consultation a week later to answer > further questions and a CD for > listening in the first week to make sure the > practice is going well. It > differs from TM because the mantra is selected from > the birth information. TM > teachers are not astrologically trained. There is no > need for a puja so the > religious part of the practice is left solely up to > the person who is learning. > For more information on me go to _Astrological > Varieties_ > (_http://www.yogavisihttp://www.y_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) ) I can be reached > at 641-469-3521 if you have interest and need > more questions asked. > > > > > Bhairitu wrote: > > Of course you can get good meditation techniques > for less > > than that these days. > > > Which meditation techniques do you consider to be > good? Are > they easy and simple to learn? Can they help a > person learn > to transcend? Do they include free checking for > life? And, > where would a person get them these days and where > would > all the money go? Can you be specific? > > At my age, I'm not much interested in left-handed > basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense > syllables > or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating on > the tip > of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony > Robbins > course or get audited by a Scientologist. > > It costs over $1500 just to take a one day computer > course > these days. The average tuition for university is > over > $15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could > cost > a person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning > TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a > bargain to > me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru cult > like you > and some others did. > > > > > > > > > > peek of the all-new AOL at > _http://discover.http://discovehttp://disco_ (http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour) > __ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. _http://travel.http://tra_ (http://travel.yahoo.com/) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 10:22:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jstein wrote: > About time for the Republicans to follow that > very sage advice and get behind the Democrats' > lead in bringing an end to this catastrophe. > So, how many Democrats voted to use force to oust Saddam Hussien? Another question: Have the Democrats ever won a war? Oh, but Willy, the Democrats didn't vote to use "force", only to "authorize" the use of force. Did you hear one of them protests our troops invasion of Iraq and say their vote was misused or did they wait until it became evident that no WMD's would be found and then it was only a trickle that started to whine. As long as it looked easy they were for it, but when the going got tuff, they try to say they never supported it. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Funnily enough, since only the Absolute is/isn't, every action, > > ultimately, is divine. The Judy/Turq war being a case in point. > > For some reason, those who come here need this sort of posting. > > I, for one, apologize that my presence here, somehow, is > > promoting this battle and these two innocents must suffer the > > role of being my teachers about this issue. > > Glad you finally stepped up and took responsibility > for it, dude. :-) > > It's been a tough, compassionate road pretending to > battle the battleaxe all this time, but I knew that > you needed to see it and learn from it, so there > you jolly well are, aren't you? If the God-dude > commands it, what right have I got to refuse? > > :-) :-) :-) > > Seriously, I *know* it's embarrassing. I'm not sure > Judy does. After these last two replies of hers, now > that I've got a clear, unequivocal idea of *exactly* > how honest she is, Translation: 100 percent, to Barry's great discomfiture. I don't really foresee the need > to interact with her much more. Translation: Barry tried to "get" me twice and fouled up thoroughly both times, so he thinks maybe he should stay away from me for a while and hope everybody forgets how badly he embarrassed himself by lying. Trouble is, when he starts in again, as he always does, he's going to continue to foul up because he hasn't yet learned the lesson about being honest. Let us hope this > turns out to be the case, even if it forces you to > turn to the Jerry Springer Show for your hit of > conflict. :-) >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Amma on Fox TV
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
Thank you to whomever was responsible for putting those 4 talks online. I have only listened to the first one -- on kundalini -- but I found it absolutely fascinating. In addition to Maharishi mentioning the "Shushumna" and the "thousand- petaled lotus", did anyone catch his mention of "angels"? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would someone please seed these as torrents? > > > 1. MMY on Kundalini from Lake Louise, Canada 1968 > > http://www.box.net/shared/by1nmnoznv > > 2. MMY - Expressions ofIndividuality from Infinity - Humboldt > > http://www.box.net/shared/06vgkogoz2 > > 3. and 4. parts 1 and 2. Residence course with Satyanand and Jerry > Jarvis - Cape Cod, Mass 1968 > > Part 1: > > http://www.box.net/shared/v7sfm3vx4q > > Part 2: > > http://www.box.net/shared/dr9kyu9lxo >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:55 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I posted and hosted, however the original transfer from tapes to > digital was done by William108 on this list, who very kindly has > agreed to share his private collection of audio tapes. > I really appreciate the sharing on both your parts, and look forward to examining this bit of treasure. Thank you Vaj, and William108. Are you planning to offer more of the recordings?:-) Yes and I just had an anonymous offer of some tapes on Unity from Humboldt.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Fox TV
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:16 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Fox TV --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HYPERLINK > "HYPERLINK "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kWVzrLQb4"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=- 0kWVzrLQb4"HYPERLINK "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=- > 0kWVzrLQb4 Very nice report. My wife and I went to see Amma yesterday here in Rio. There was a huge crowd of about 3,000. The atmosphere was very 'at home'. My wife and I are both TMers and really enjoyed getting a hug from Amma. Please send reports if you go again. She had big crowds in Chile too. 5-8,000 for most programs and reportedly, 20,000 for the final one (Devi Bhava), although it may have been more like 12,000. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra
On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: > Of course you can get good meditation techniques for less > than that these days. > Which meditation techniques do you consider to be good? Are they easy and simple to learn? Can they help a person learn to transcend? Do they include free checking for life? And, where would a person get them these days and where would all the money go? Can you be specific? At my age, I'm not much interested in left-handed basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense syllables or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating on the tip of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony Robbins course or get audited by a Scientologist. It costs over $1500 just to take a one day computer course these days. The average tuition for university is over $15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could cost a person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a bargain to me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru cult like you and some others did. Here's a better bargain: Please plan to join us for the Ahimsa Center meditation retreat with Dr. B. Alan Wallace. The Retreat, Balancing the Heart and the Mind, will take place at Cal Poly Pomona, Bronco Student Center on the weekend of August 11 and 12. In this retreat we will focus on two methods for meditative quiescence, or shamatha. We will begin with the practice of mindfulness of the breathing--an effective approach to soothing the body and calming the discursive mind. We will then explore an approach to shamatha that is particularly pertinent for meditative practice called “settling the mind in its natural state.” The attainment of shamatha is widely regarded in the Buddhist tradition as an indispensable foundation for the cultivation of contemplative insight (vipashyana), and this retreat is designed to provide participants with a sufficient theoretical understanding and a basis in experience to enable them to proceed effectively toward this extraordinary state of mental and physical balance. In addition, instruction will be offered on the cultivation of the four immeasurables–loving-kindness, compassion, empathetic joy, and equanimity. They are so called, for the development of these qualities of the heart that can break down all barriers that are created by attachment and aversion, opening our hearts boundlessly to all beings. This retreat will be valuable for college faculty and students, school teachers, business and community leaders, peace workers, mediators and other professionals who are interested in achieving balance and harmony in their lives. Members: $105, Nonmemeber: $125 For more information, including accommodation, please visit : http://www.csupomona.edu/~ahimsacenter/retreat/retreat_aug_07.html Tara Sethia, Ph.D. Director, Ahimsa Center Professor, History Department California State Polytechnic University 3801 West Temple Avenue Pomona, CA 91768 Phone (909) 869 3868 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.csupomona.edu/ahimsacenter
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 11:36:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May you rest in hell. The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:55 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > I posted and hosted, however the original transfer from tapes to > > > digital was done by William108 on this list, who very kindly has > > > agreed to share his private collection of audio tapes. > > > > > I really appreciate the sharing on both your parts, and look forward > > to examining this bit of treasure. Thank you Vaj, and William108. Are > > you planning to offer more of the recordings?:-) > > > Yes and I just had an anonymous offer of some tapes on Unity from > Humboldt. > Excellent!:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scope of Desire Fulfillment, Scope of Wholenes Swallowing Particles.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > Funnily enough, since only the Absolute is/isn't, every action, > > > ultimately, is divine. The Judy/Turq war being a case in point. > > > For some reason, those who come here need this sort of posting. > > > I, for one, apologize that my presence here, somehow, is > > > promoting this battle and these two innocents must suffer the > > > role of being my teachers about this issue. > > > > Glad you finally stepped up and took responsibility > > for it, dude. :-) > > > > It's been a tough, compassionate road pretending to > > battle the battleaxe all this time, but I knew that > > you needed to see it and learn from it, so there > > you jolly well are, aren't you? If the God-dude > > commands it, what right have I got to refuse? > > > > :-) :-) :-) > > > > Seriously, I *know* it's embarrassing. I'm not sure > > Judy does. After these last two replies of hers, now > > that I've got a clear, unequivocal idea of *exactly* > > how honest she is, > > Translation: 100 percent, to Barry's great > discomfiture. > > I don't really foresee the need > > to interact with her much more. > > Translation: Barry tried to "get" me twice and > fouled up thoroughly both times, so he thinks > maybe he should stay away from me for a while > and hope everybody forgets how badly he > embarrassed himself by lying. > > Trouble is, when he starts in again, as he > always does, he's going to continue to foul up > because he hasn't yet learned the lesson about > being honest. > > yep- read this all the same way. Your clarity is literally refreshing.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Print version of Fox News story
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 11:36:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > May you rest in hell. > > > > > The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. An empty rhetorical attempt at self-vindication from a guy who cheerleads perpetuating the unnecessary human atrocities in Iraq against a guy who is appalled by it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 12:55:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy what will be the future of the Democrat Party When you're speaking to me, you'll use the correct name of the party, or you won't receive a response. Nice cop out ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] 'Several Articles on Kundalini Awakening'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 12:59:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Well, I really don't blame you for contradicting yourself here. It is > embarrassing to admit you want our country to fail in it's efforts to bring a > functioning Democracy to a troubled part of the world. Your only concern is for > us to get out and say we accomplished nothing. Perhaps you think a full scale > retreat and defeat along with feeling of guilt would be of more benefit to > the United States and the world than a full scale victory of leaving Iraq with > a reconciled functioning democratic government that is capable of > maintaining it's own security. > if democracy results there tomorrow, I am all for it and I will laud your praises as the prescient one among us. However, if it doesn't occur tomorrow, I will feel sadness for those who continue to die for this "grand experiment". Won't you??:-) It's a shame that even one person died, but if it, the current war effort, succeeds, it could be a catalyst to create a much needed change for many nations in that region to be as prosperous and peaceful as we see in European democracies. It won't come cheap but will be worth it in the long run. Your problem is not that you want it tomorrow, you wanted it yesterday without the work. Patience and perseverance are virtues and a few years of hard work and sacrifices are nothing in the scheme of things when you are talking about changing the way people in a large part of the world have lived for centuries, if not millennia. Grand experiments such as this usually do cost lives but are usually well worth it in the future. The other alternative is to leave them alone and let them stew in their own misery and take out their frustrations on anyone not like them. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/1/07 11:36:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > May you rest in hell. > > > > > The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > Only if you believe in curses. But then note folks he didn't respond to my other points: "So what do you actually think this stupid Iraq war is about, Dixie? It's their country. We don't belong there. We messed it up. We can offer to help clean up the mess under the Iraqis supervision but they seem to prefer we leave. I was against this war from the start and even as it was being proposed. I know the mindset of a tyrant and George W. Bush is a tyrant. He and his administration deserves no support from the citizens of the United States. He belongs in a prison along with the rest of his cohorts. This is about oil. It is about lining the pockets of the rich and if you're stupid enough to think your pockets are going to get lined along the way for sucking up to them then you truly are a fool. You along with the Republicans and NeoCons now have the karma of having destroyed the United States." Nothing to say, eh?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 2:20:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], MDi > > In a message dated 8/1/07 12:55:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Judy what will be the future of the Democrat Party > > When you're speaking to me, you'll use the correct > name of the party, or you won't receive a response. > > Nice cop out. Not a copout. Use the correct name, and I'll respond. I'll never refer to them they way you want me to because it's intent is on making the ignorant think they are the only party that is for democratic values. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/1/07 12:55:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Judy what will be the future of the Democrat Party > > When you're speaking to me, you'll use the correct > name of the party, or you won't receive a response. > > Nice cop out. Not a copout. Use the correct name, and I'll respond.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 2:26:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > May you rest in hell. > > > > The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. > > > Only if you believe in curses. But then note folks he didn't respond to > my other points: > > "So what do you actually think this stupid Iraq war is about, Dixie? > It's their country. We don't belong there. We messed it up. We can > offer to help clean up the mess under the Iraqis supervision but they > seem to prefer we leave. I was against this war from the start and even > as it was being proposed. I know the mindset of a tyrant and George W. > Bush is a tyrant. He and his administration deserves no support from > the citizens of the United States. He belongs in a prison along with > the rest of his cohorts. This is about oil. It is about lining the > pockets of the rich and if you're stupid enough to think your pockets > are going to get lined along the way for sucking up to them then you > truly are a fool. You along with the Republicans and NeoCons now have > the karma of having destroyed the United States." > > Why would I dignify your questions with answers after telling me to go to > hell? Nice copout.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 2:20:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 12:55:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > Judy what will be the future of the Democrat Party > > > > When you're speaking to me, you'll use the correct > > name of the party, or you won't receive a response. > > > > Nice cop out. > > Not a copout. Use the correct name, and I'll respond. > > I'll never refer to them they way you want me to because it's intent is on > making the ignorant think they are the only party that is for democratic > values. Nonsense. The Democratic Party is so named because it originated in a split in the 1820s in the Democratic-Republican Party founded in 1792 by Thomas Jefferson. "Democrat Party" is a slur, plain and simple. There's no excuse for it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 1:56:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 8/1/07 11:36:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > May you rest in hell. > > > > > The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. An empty rhetorical attempt at self-vindication from a guy who cheerleads perpetuating the unnecessary human atrocities in Iraq against a guy who is appalled by it. Isn't that what Christians do? When they get fed up that they can't convert you they just tell you "you're going to hell"? http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
In a message dated 8/1/07 2:26:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May you rest in hell. > > > > > The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. > > > > > _http://discover.http://discovehttp://disco_ (http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour) > > Only if you believe in curses. But then note folks he didn't respond to my other points: "So what do you actually think this stupid Iraq war is about, Dixie? It's their country. We don't belong there. We messed it up. We can offer to help clean up the mess under the Iraqis supervision but they seem to prefer we leave. I was against this war from the start and even as it was being proposed. I know the mindset of a tyrant and George W. Bush is a tyrant. He and his administration deserves no support from the citizens of the United States. He belongs in a prison along with the rest of his cohorts. This is about oil. It is about lining the pockets of the rich and if you're stupid enough to think your pockets are going to get lined along the way for sucking up to them then you truly are a fool. You along with the Republicans and NeoCons now have the karma of having destroyed the United States." Why would I dignify your questions with answers after telling me to go to hell? ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Special...or not...
I meant to comment on this. Being in the entertainment industry I've had the opportunity to know some famous folks. My approach was to never gush over them and treat them just like anyone else. You'd be surprised how many celebrities will respond favorably to this. I know from what attention I got in my field that sometimes fame and fans can be uncomfortable. TurquoiseB wrote: > Have any of you ever noticed that life sometimes seems to > go out of its Way to offer you reflections of the things > you've been thinking about, and pondering? Pondering not > in the sense of 'ponderous,' or heavy, just pondering in > the sense of thinkin' about, comin' back to from time > to time during the day like one comes back to a koan, > touching upon it at different times of the day and from > different points of view, like it was fun...a thing to > "think through" or just try to get a kinda handle on, > something to have fun with and explore? Today was one > of those days for me. > > It started kinda funky. I woke up and decided again that > rather than go to a cafe and try to write, I'd go to a cafe > and read someone else's writing. So I grabbed by newly- > arrived-in-the-mail copy of the latest (and last) Harry > Potter novel, and headed out the door with it. I got no > further than my own doorstep when I was accosted by a > stalker. > > He wasn't stalking me. He was stalking my next-door neighbor, > the Famous Comic Artist. But because I live in an apartment > in the artist's house, and the Artist Himself -- the one > he'd been camped out on our doorsteps stalking -- hadn't > appeared, he glommed onto me. On the surface, he was a fairly > benign fan -- Belgian, clutching a gift basket for Robert, > explaining to me (a total stranger, ferchrissakes) that he'd > come all the way from Belgium on a kind of pilgrimage to meet > The Artist. > > I did not for a moment doubt his sincerity or his fervor. > This guy obviously had a fairly serious hero thang goin' down > with my next-door neighbor. He explained that he'd come all > this way just in the hope that he could meet him, just for a > couple of minutes, just to thank him for his work and for how > much it had inspired him. I explained to him that The Artist > was more than a bit of a recluse, and that because he went > away often to a rented place in the mountains to work on his > latest project, he might not even be in town this week. But > the guy said he was going to wait anyway, and sat down on a > doorstep opposite our house. I wished him good luck and > headed off to the cafe. > > But once there, after ordering my coffee but before opening > my book, I called The Artist's wife and told them that they > had another stalker on their hands. I explained to her that > he had *seemed* benevolent, but definitely warned her that > he was outside her door, waiting. She thanked me and I went > back to my coffee, and started reading about Harry Potter. > > Harry's an interesting guy. He grew up thinking he was just > an ordinary kid, and then he found out that he was special. > In the world of magic that he grew up unaware of, he had > been a legend since his infancy. When he arrived on the scene, > most of the people he ran into had heard his legend (which he > had been blissfully unaware of) long before they'd met him. > > So if you're an ordinary guy thrown suddenly into the role > of being considered "special," whaddya do? Well, Harry finds > a few close friends, kids who accept him for just who he is, > not who he's "supposed" to be. And around them he can kick > back and relax and just be himself, without having to think > about being "special," and living up to it. > > I read for a couple of hours and then walked back home. Soon > afterwards the phone rang, and it was The Artist's wife, > calling to update me on my earlier phone call. It turns out > that she went outside to see the guy, and thanked him for > coming and all, but explained to him that Robert was medi- > tating right now, and thus wasn't available to meet him. > > The guy started crying. Right there on the street, bawling > like a baby, as distraught as my neighbor had ever seen a > person. So she took pity on him and invited him into her > parlor and left him there crying while she went to talk to > her husband -- a painfully shy guy to start with -- and tell > him what was goin' down. Well, The Artist, high on compassion > from a nice, shiny meditation, said, "Why not?" and walked > downstairs to meet this guy. > > And it starts out sweet, but within no less than the couple > of minutes that the guy had told me he wanted with him, the > fan turns aggressive, asking The Artist to draw something > personal for him. When my friend, shocked, said that he > didn't "do requests," the guy started demanding that The > Artist give him -- for free -- copies of his artwork that > he had lying around. The couple who lived in the house that > they'd moved to to get *away* from such
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 12:59:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Well, I really don't blame you for contradicting yourself here. It > is > > embarrassing to admit you want our country to fail in it's > efforts to bring a > > functioning Democracy to a troubled part of the world. Your only > concern is for > > us to get out and say we accomplished nothing. Perhaps you think > a full scale > > retreat and defeat along with feeling of guilt would be of more > benefit to > > the United States and the world than a full scale victory of > leaving Iraq with > > a reconciled functioning democratic government that is capable of > > maintaining it's own security. > > > if democracy results there tomorrow, I am all for it and I will laud > your praises as the prescient one among us. However, if it doesn't > occur tomorrow, I will feel sadness for those who continue to die > for this "grand experiment". Won't you??:-) > > > > > It's a shame that even one person died, but if it, the current war effort, > succeeds, it could be a catalyst to create a much needed change for many > nations in that region to be as prosperous and peaceful as we see in European > democracies. It won't come cheap but will be worth it in the long run. I doubt it will succeed, but not because I want it to fail, or am not willing to sacrifice for it. Basically my issue is that the war wasn't designed to bring democracy to the middle east. The war was designed to do a lot of things, and after all of them failed, then the justification for bringing democracy to the middle east was dreamt up- and if you are honest and recall how this went down, no one, and I mean *no one* was talking about invading Iraq to bring democracy when this began. So maybe we can change horses in mid-stream and have it all come out OK. Seems like an expensive toss of the dice though.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/07 1:56:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > In a message dated 8/1/07 11:36:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > noozguru@ writes: > > > > May you rest in hell. > > > > > > > > > > The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. > > An empty rhetorical attempt at self-vindication from a guy who > cheerleads perpetuating the unnecessary human atrocities in Iraq > against a guy who is appalled by it. > > > > Isn't that what Christians do? When they get fed up that they can't convert > you they just tell you "you're going to hell"? is perpetuating the Human atrocities in Iraq, it's Al Qaeda inflaming > sectarian violence and Iraq's themselves. None of that existed before Bush invaded Iraq. > The US wants to leave them with a > functional democratic government that can create security for it and it's people. Clearly no such thing is happening. The situation only continues to get worse year after year as the killing escalates. People with your view apparently won't be happy until the killing spreads throughout the Middle East. The right wing nuts are giddy to attack Iran. Neocon Bill Kristol, his PNAC gang and the AEI warmongers can't wait...for more barbaric aggression by the USA. My grandfather always used to say, "You can't argue with results." The 'results' in Iraq are devastating and catastrophic and continue to get worse. People like you are driven by deadly ideology, not common sense. > If > you want to see human atrocities, just pull the troops out now. Hell, even > Hillary and Joe Biden can see that! But then maybe Nooz wouldn't care how many > people killed each other as long as we were not there. The Iraqis *themselves* want the US to get the hell out of their country.
[FairfieldLife] MMY Audio: Unity and Prayer
Another MMY Audio shared by an anonymous donor. MMY Audio: Unity and Prayer From: Humboldt State College http://www.box.net/shared/kxb6l5xl8x 3 MMY Unity and Prayer.mp3
[FairfieldLife] Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/1/07 2:26:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > May you rest in hell. > >> >> >> The curse binds the curser to the coursed for eternity. >> >> >> >> >> _http://discover.http://discovehttp://disco_ >> > (http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour) > >> >> > Only if you believe in curses. But then note folks he didn't respond to > my other points: > > "So what do you actually think this stupid Iraq war is about, Dixie? > It's their country. We don't belong there. We messed it up. We can > offer to help clean up the mess under the Iraqis supervision but they > seem to prefer we leave. I was against this war from the start and even > as it was being proposed. I know the mindset of a tyrant and George W. > Bush is a tyrant. He and his administration deserves no support from > the citizens of the United States. He belongs in a prison along with > the rest of his cohorts. This is about oil. It is about lining the > pockets of the rich and if you're stupid enough to think your pockets > are going to get lined along the way for sucking up to them then you > truly are a fool. You along with the Republicans and NeoCons now have > the karma of having destroyed the United States." > > > > > Why would I dignify your questions with answers after telling me to go to > hell? > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Another weaselly rightie reply.
