[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > What about the hats used for graduation from college in the USA ? > > Looks pretty weird to me... > > What! Every school child knows, "mein hat it has four corners, four > corners has mein hat. And had it not four corners, it would not be > mein hat" > Well, whadya know! Like "My Hut hat vier Ecken(sp?)"? > Where have you been? > > lurk >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brahmanada wouldn't even be accessible to us if not for Maharishi, > so its impossible to separate the two-- they are continuously > working in tandem; one heart and one goal. This notion that Guru Dev > has somehow spurned Maharishi or that Maharishi is lost in the sauce > is a silly one from my point of view. I respect others' points of > view on this though-- seriously. They share the same breath as I see it. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
I agree with you totally on every point. I am having fun, but I am not at all deluded about what is happening here. It is because I love America that I am really concerned. a curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was just sticking up for Americans Angela. We gotta big country here full of people from everywhere. I don't like to see us summed up any one way just because we have had two terms of Foghorn Leghorn. "Boy's as sharp as a bowling ball." "benefit of the doubt", not yet baby. I think you've been sling'n hash like a short order cook. Americans are just a form of human and we aren't mostly any one way. That is the best quality of America for me. My America serves Vietnamese Pho for lunch anytime I feel like it. Glad you're having fun in this great country. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtisdeltablues, thanks a billion, dude, I think this has the makings of a really good conversation. > First off, I love wherever I am to death. And I am profoundly at home here in Ff, but I fucking miss China where I was equally at home. > The fact is that I see this place going down the fascist road to hell that I have experienced once in my life first hand already. Now, in a rabbit warren, this experience would be considered essential knowledge for survival . I'm pretty good at reading the road signs. I am a fourth generation refugee. I'm genetically programmed that way, I can't help it. And then, like it or not, I got an amazing education---there is not doubt about that. > Now, if I say Americans are a bunch of stupid assholes, I probably mean exactly that. And one reason I am so good at recognizing the indisputable and scientifically established fact that Americans are a bunch of stupid assholes is because I am for friggin sure one of you. It's true I'm not a citizen, but you can think of my status as a kind common law marriage. Jefferson, would have accorded me citizenship a thousand time over, and I am truly sorry Bush is not so inclined. > I also believe that every weakness is the other side of a strength. If this weren't true, it would be impossible to get through life. > > I love that you love my questions. Of course they have answers. Not only do they have answers, they have an infinite number of possible answers you could spin and then argue for successfully and support with studies. Another thing you can say about Americans is that they have studies about everything including studies of studies of studies. > > In a world like this, of course a good rabbit knows how to cover her tracks. > > Did the rest of the world notice that Americans have a relatively short attention span in some legitimate manner that you would recognize as being legit? I think they have. But see, a kind of heart to heart recognition of one human to another, a recognition beyond time, place, and condition, necessarily precedes the super-scientific studies. The studies are the stories we invent when we can't seem to trust another's knowledge and love. > > There are studies, and you can find them on the Internet. And oh, by the way, I must confess to abysmal stupidity when it comes to the Internet, as some of you have correctly surmised. I have kind of just discovered it. Don't forget that not only am I senile as hell, I'm also a recovering technophobe who was basically raised in 19th century Germany. Bombing somebody back to the stone age is one of those expressions that is an excellent example of anagoge. The war literally bombed the place back about a hundred years. > > I do not blindly buy into bashing anyone, you abominable troll; bashing is much more successful if you can actually see the target. > I am so very happy that flaming evil is allowed here. > Thanks again, dude, for giving me the benefit of the doubt. a > > curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > "There are no statistics" is not a statement a careful student or > observer would make. He or she would say instead, "I am aware of no > statistics." > > > Consider me not careful when responding to your post. Good point. > > > As it happens, there are numerous studies on attention span, > including cross cultural studies. > > > > To judge my statement on attention span a prejudice is itself > prejudicial. "Prejudice" means "pre-judgment." You cannot know if I > am making a pre-judgment until you ask what my judgment is based on. > Is it based on merely informal observation? Hearsay? Ethnographic > studies? > > Excellent questions all. So do they have answers or was this a > sophist trick to cover your tracks? > > > > > Whether a short attention span is a good thing or a bad thing > depend
[FairfieldLife] Mahalakshmi yagya-Nov. 9th
>From a friend: Vedic Holiday of MahaLakshmi -November 9th Auspicious Yagya Period for Promoting Business & Prosperity Blessings of Wealth, Success and Spiritual Growth HYPERLINK "http://www.bhawnayagya.org"www.bhawnayagya.org HYPERLINK "http://docs.google.com/File?id=dcqkd55d_24fmcf27fk"; The Vedic Holiday Of Maha Lakshmi is coming November 9th. MahaLakshmi Day is the day of celebration of light. It is the festival and celebration of the light which dispels the darkness of ignorance and opens the way to spiritual awakening. On Maha Lakshmi Day, the goddess of wealth, Lakshmi, is worshiped to bring blessings of wealth and prosperity in spiritual and material life. Abundance of bliss, fulfillment, light and love are the keywords of this most auspicious time of year. The month of November is a favorable time for the performance of Lakshmi Yagyas.The pundits at Bhavana Pujan Kendra located in Benares, India will be offering several ways to participate in yagyas at this special time of year; 1. Traditional Yagya for Maha Lakshmi Day. There will be a yagya performed for success, wealth and spiritual growth for all interested participants. This will be a one day yagya performed at the traditional time of midnight on November 9th. Family sponsorship to participate in this yagya will be $108. 2. Two week long MahaLakshmi Yagyas for business success, wealth and abundance will begin at the beginning of November. Sponsorship for the two week yagya will be $350. 3. Month long MahaLakshmi Yagyas for business success, wealth and abundance will start the beginning of November. Sponsorship for the month long yagya will be $600. Please contact us via email at HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] to indicate your interest No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] Today's puja to Guru Dev
'Today's Puja to Guru Dev with Purusha, with Purusha of the world, Purusha of this generation, is the unfoldment of that mechanics of administration which is spontaneously eternally silent. It is never anything other than itself, eternally remaining Purusha [infinite silence, the Self]. 'Eternally remaining Purusha, even the Vedic tradition does not find an expression. They say Purushottama [the Supreme Purusha, Totality], as its one feature of superlative degree, that skill of administration which is Unity, eternal Unity, never diversity. Eternal Unity ever administers with perfect order the whole field of diversity."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Oprah's scandal-ridden school the TM one?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > > I had a vice-president at MIU ask me to > > pee on him (wasn't into water sports at the time, so I had to say > > no) - > > But you are now?.I'm bustin' up, this is cracking me up! Ha, ha... > ** Hey, bubba, don't knock it til you tried it, OK? Nuthin better 'n downing a couple quarts of beer and giving some guy the ole golden rinse...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
I was just sticking up for Americans Angela. We gotta big country here full of people from everywhere. I don't like to see us summed up any one way just because we have had two terms of Foghorn Leghorn. "Boy's as sharp as a bowling ball." "benefit of the doubt", not yet baby. I think you've been sling'n hash like a short order cook. Americans are just a form of human and we aren't mostly any one way. That is the best quality of America for me. My America serves Vietnamese Pho for lunch anytime I feel like it. Glad you're having fun in this great country. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtisdeltablues, thanks a billion, dude, I think this has the makings of a really good conversation. > First off, I love wherever I am to death. And I am profoundly at home here in Ff, but I fucking miss China where I was equally at home. > The fact is that I see this place going down the fascist road to hell that I have experienced once in my life first hand already. Now, in a rabbit warren, this experience would be considered essential knowledge for survival . I'm pretty good at reading the road signs. I am a fourth generation refugee. I'm genetically programmed that way, I can't help it. And then, like it or not, I got an amazing education---there is not doubt about that. > Now, if I say Americans are a bunch of stupid assholes, I probably mean exactly that. And one reason I am so good at recognizing the indisputable and scientifically established fact that Americans are a bunch of stupid assholes is because I am for friggin sure one of you. It's true I'm not a citizen, but you can think of my status as a kind common law marriage. Jefferson, would have accorded me citizenship a thousand time over, and I am truly sorry Bush is not so inclined. > I also believe that every weakness is the other side of a strength. If this weren't true, it would be impossible to get through life. > > I love that you love my questions. Of course they have answers. Not only do they have answers, they have an infinite number of possible answers you could spin and then argue for successfully and support with studies. Another thing you can say about Americans is that they have studies about everything including studies of studies of studies. > > In a world like this, of course a good rabbit knows how to cover her tracks. > > Did the rest of the world notice that Americans have a relatively short attention span in some legitimate manner that you would recognize as being legit? I think they have. But see, a kind of heart to heart recognition of one human to another, a recognition beyond time, place, and condition, necessarily precedes the super-scientific studies. The studies are the stories we invent when we can't seem to trust another's knowledge and love. > > There are studies, and you can find them on the Internet. And oh, by the way, I must confess to abysmal stupidity when it comes to the Internet, as some of you have correctly surmised. I have kind of just discovered it. Don't forget that not only am I senile as hell, I'm also a recovering technophobe who was basically raised in 19th century Germany. Bombing somebody back to the stone age is one of those expressions that is an excellent example of anagoge. The war literally bombed the place back about a hundred years. > > I do not blindly buy into bashing anyone, you abominable troll; bashing is much more successful if you can actually see the target. > I am so very happy that flaming evil is allowed here. > Thanks again, dude, for giving me the benefit of the doubt. a > > curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > "There are no statistics" is not a statement a careful student or > observer would make. He or she would say instead, "I am aware of no > statistics." > > > Consider me not careful when responding to your post. Good point. > > > As it happens, there are numerous studies on attention span, > including cross cultural studies. > > > > To judge my statement on attention span a prejudice is itself > prejudicial. "Prejudice" means "pre-judgment." You cannot know if I > am making a pre-judgment until you ask what my judgment is based on. > Is it based on merely informal observation? Hearsay? Ethnographic > studies? > > Excellent questions all. So do they have answers or was this a > sophist trick to cover your tracks? > > > > > Whether a short attention span is a good thing or a bad thing > depends on a number of different variables. As I have already > indicated, it can be a very good thing. Letting go of the past is a > necessary component in any kind of creativity. And, presumably, we > wouldn't want the whole planet populated by a bunch of stodgy > nineteenth century German scholars. I'm not qualified to judge if > there is (or
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stranglers Classic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=oIHBUGvAUMo > > OffWorld > >From what I have seen, there's always a frown with Golden Brown, eventually.
[FairfieldLife] Stranglers Classic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oIHBUGvAUMo OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Clash Classic
Yes. http://youtube.com/watch?v=OAkfHShATKY OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Oprah's scandal-ridden school the TM one?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a vice-president at MIU ask me to > pee on him (wasn't into water sports at the time, so I had to say > no) - But you are now?.I'm bustin' up, this is cracking me up! Ha, ha...
[FairfieldLife] View From Israel
Oct 25, 2007 21:47 | Updated Oct 26, 2007 16:47 Column one: Preventing World War III By CAROLINE GLICK It goes without saying that if and when a decision is made in Jerusalem or Washington to carry out an attack against Iran's nuclear installations the public will only learn of the decision in retrospect. All the same, over the last few weeks, it has been impossible to miss the fact that the Iranian nuclear program has become the subject of intense and ever increasing international scrutiny. This naturally gives rise to the impression that something is afoot. Take for example the head of the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency Muhammad elBaradei's recent remarks on the subject. Speaking to ,i>Le Monde on Monday, elBaradei asserted that it will take Iran between three to eight years to acquire a nuclear arsenal. Consequently, he argued, there is no reason to consider conducting a military strike against Teheran's program. There is still plenty of time for diplomacy, or sanctions or even incentives for the ayatollahs, he said. ElBaradei's statement is only interesting when it is compared to a statement he made in December 2005 to the Independent. Back then Baradei's view was that Iran was just "a few months" away from producing atomic bombs. But then too he saw no reason to attack. As he put it when he warned that Iran was on the precipice of nuclear weapons, using force would just "open Pandora's box." "There would be efforts to isolate Iran; Iran would retaliate, and at the end of the day, you have to go back to the negotiation table to find the solution," elBaradei warned. Given that the IAEA's Egyptian chief has been unstinting in his view that no obstacle should be placed in Iran's path to nuclear bombs, what makes his statements from 2005 and today interesting is what they tell us about his changing perception of the West's intentions. At the end of 2005, he was fairly certain that the West - led by the US - lacked the will to attack Iran. By making the statement he made at the time, he sought to demoralize the West and so convince it that there was nothing to be done to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Now, when faced with a real possibility that the US or Israel or a combination of states are ready and willing to attack Iran's nuclear installations, elBaradei seeks to undermine them by questioning the salience of the threat. ElBaradei's statement of course was not made in a vacuum. It came against the backdrop of an increasing unanimity of opinion among top Bush administration members that Iran must be prevented from acquiring nuclear weapons. Last Thursday, President George W. Bush said that a nuclear armed Iran would foment World War III. The next day, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, who until recently was known to oppose military action against Iran and to minimize the danger that a nuclear-armed Iran would constitute to the US, said at a press briefing that a nuclear-armed Iran would likely spark a nuclear arms race in the Middle East and was liable to foment a major war. Gates added that in light of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's stated desire to destroy Israel, "Washington couldn't trust that Iran would handle nuclear weapons responsibly." Standing next to Gates last Thursday was Admiral Michael Mullen, the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Mullen rebuffed assertions that the US campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq have strained military resources to the point that the US today cannot mount an effective campaign against Iran. As he put it, "From a military standpoint, there is more than enough reserve" to mount an attack against Iran's nuclear installations. While Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice continues to champion negotiations with the mullahs, in testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday Rice acknowledged that "the policies of Iran constitute perhaps the single greatest challenge for American security interests in the Middle East and possibly around the world." And then there is Israel. It appears that both the IDF and the government are earnestly preparing for the possibility of war. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's sudden visits to Moscow, Paris and London, and Defense Minister Ehud Barak's trip to Washington this week were all devoted to the Iranian nuclear project. One of the main things that we have learned from these reports about the September 6 Israeli strike against the North Korean nuclear installation in Syria is that Israeli intelligence on nuclear proliferation is more comprehensive, and at least in certain areas, superior to US intelligence. According to media reports of the strike, the US approved the Israeli operation after Israel brought the US incontrovertible evidence of the threat posed by the nuclear site. In light of Israel's apparent intelligence prowess, it seems reasonable to assume that Olmert and Barak did not fl
[FairfieldLife] Bob Dylan classic
They don't make them like this these days: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mvBkbPEoeAI OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Creation Hymn - Rig Veda 10:129:1-7 [was: Question for Cardemeister]
--Thanks!...this can be encapsulated into: AUM BHOOR BHUWAH SWAHA, TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM BHARGO DEVASAYA DHEEMAHI DHIYO YO NAHA PRACHODAYAT. Summary of the Gayatri Mantra Gayatri Mantra (the mother of the vedas), the foremost mantra in hinduism and hindu beliefs, inspires wisdom. Its meaning is that "May the Almighty God illuminate our intellect to lead us along the righteous path". Oh God! Thou art the Giver of Life, Remover of pain and sorrow, The Bestower of happiness, Oh! Creator of the Universe, May we receive thy supreme sin-destroying light, May Thou guide our intellect in the right direction. Gayatri Mantra in Sanskrit Word for Word Meaning of the Gayatri Mantra Aum = Brahma ; bhoor = embodiment of vital spiritual energy(pran) ; bhuwah = destroyer of sufferings ; swaha = embodiment of happiness ; tat = that ; savitur = bright like sun ; varenyam = best choicest ; bhargo = destroyer of sins ; devasya = divine ; dheemahi = may imbibe ; dhiyo = intellect ; yo = who ; naha = our ; prachodayat = may inspire! - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 3a. Question for Cardemeister > > Posted by: "Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick_archer > > Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:07 pm ((PDT)) > > > > A friend wants to know: > > > Do you have a copy of the 10th Mandala? I'm looking for a hymn that > > describes creation there, how from nothing came something "that one > > unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength" or something like that. Is > > there any way you could help me locate that hymn? > > > The Hymn of Creation > Rig Veda, Mandala 10, Sukta 129, Verses 1-7 > > The rishi is Paramatma (under his name Parameshthin), > The devata is Paramatma (the author of the creation, preservation, and > dissolution of the various entities/bhavas - which are the subjects of > the hymn), > The chhandas is ?. > > This is from the 10th mandala (circle) of Rig Veda - the mandala of > Purusha, Atman, the Self - consisting of 192 suktas. > This is sukta 129 out of 192; it has passed the halfway point of the man- > dala (from the 1st sukta - 100% fullness of emptiness - to the 96th sukta, > 100% fullness of fullness); it is about 1/3 of the way back up toward the > beginning of the mandala (100% fullness of emptiness) - so this sukta con- > tains about 33% fullness of emptiness increasing and 66% fullness of full- > ness decreasing. It would be the natural balancing partner to the 33rd > sukta; the sum total of each pair of opposites across the diameter of the > mandala (circle) is zero. They arise in pairs and balance each other > out. > > As a side note, please remember that the surface meaning of the words > is a very superficial level of vedic cognition (and even more so when > it's gone through translation into other languages - in this case English). > For example, just refer to the surface meaning of the 1st words of Rig > Veda (agnim ile purohitam...) and then to the actual truth cognized in the > vibrational quality of those sounds (ah/fullness, g/emptiness, nim/eternal > continuance of this 'yin/yang' vibration between fullness and emptiness). > With that in mind, take the translated surface meaning of the words, > included below, with their proper weight. > > -- > > I. Translated by H. H. Wilson > (This is the version reprinted by the TM movement decades ago, possibly > because it was copyright-free and thus easily available.) > > 1. The non-existent was not, the existent was not; then the world was not, > nor the firmament, nor that which is above (the firmament). How could > there by any investing envelope, and where? Of what (could there be) feli- > city? How (could there be) the deep unfathomable water? > > 2. Death was not nor at that period immortality, there was no indication > of day or night; that One unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength, > other than That there was nothing else whatever. > > 3. There was darkness covered by darkness in the beginning, all this > (world) was undistinguishable water; that empty united (world) which was > covered by a mere nothing, was produced through the power of austerity. > > 4. In the beginning there was desire, which was the first seed of mind; > sages having meditated in their hearts have discovered by their wisdom > the connection of the existent with the non-existent. > > 5. Their ray was stretched out, whether across, or below, or above; (some) > were shedders of seed, (others) were mighty; food was inferior, the eater > was superior. > > 6. Who really knows? Who in this world may declare it? Whence was this > creation, whence was it engendered? The gods (were) subsequent to the > (world's) creation; so who knows whence it arose? > > 7. He from whom this creation arose, he may uphold it, or he may not (no > one else can); he who is its superintendent in
[FairfieldLife] The Creation Hymn - Rig Veda 10:129:1-7 [was: Question for Cardemeister]
> 3a. Question for Cardemeister > Posted by: "Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick_archer > Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:07 pm ((PDT)) > > A friend wants to know: > Do you have a copy of the 10th Mandala? I'm looking for a hymn that > describes creation there, how from nothing came something "that one > unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength" or something like that. Is > there any way you could help me locate that hymn? The Hymn of Creation Rig Veda, Mandala 10, Sukta 129, Verses 1-7 The rishi is Paramatma (under his name Parameshthin), The devata is Paramatma (the author of the creation, preservation, and dissolution of the various entities/bhavas - which are the subjects of the hymn), The chhandas is ?. This is from the 10th mandala (circle) of Rig Veda - the mandala of Purusha, Atman, the Self - consisting of 192 suktas. This is sukta 129 out of 192; it has passed the halfway point of the man- dala (from the 1st sukta - 100% fullness of emptiness - to the 96th sukta, 100% fullness of fullness); it is about 1/3 of the way back up toward the beginning of the mandala (100% fullness of emptiness) - so this sukta con- tains about 33% fullness of emptiness increasing and 66% fullness of full- ness decreasing. It would be the natural balancing partner to the 33rd sukta; the sum total of each pair of opposites across the diameter of the mandala (circle) is zero. They arise in pairs and balance each other out. As a side note, please remember that the surface meaning of the words is a very superficial level of vedic cognition (and even more so when it's gone through translation into other languages - in this case English). For example, just refer to the surface meaning of the 1st words of Rig Veda (agnim ile purohitam...) and then to the actual truth cognized in the vibrational quality of those sounds (ah/fullness, g/emptiness, nim/eternal continuance of this 'yin/yang' vibration between fullness and emptiness). With that in mind, take the translated surface meaning of the words, included below, with their proper weight. -- I. Translated by H. H. Wilson (This is the version reprinted by the TM movement decades ago, possibly because it was copyright-free and thus easily available.) 1. The non-existent was not, the existent was not; then the world was not, nor the firmament, nor that which is above (the firmament). How could there by any investing envelope, and where? Of what (could there be) feli- city? How (could there be) the deep unfathomable water? 2. Death was not nor at that period immortality, there was no indication of day or night; that One unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength, other than That there was nothing else whatever. 3. There was darkness covered by darkness in the beginning, all this (world) was undistinguishable water; that empty united (world) which was covered by a mere nothing, was produced through the power of austerity. 4. In the beginning there was desire, which was the first seed of mind; sages having meditated in their hearts have discovered by their wisdom the connection of the existent with the non-existent. 5. Their ray was stretched out, whether across, or below, or above; (some) were shedders of seed, (others) were mighty; food was inferior, the eater was superior. 6. Who really knows? Who in this world may declare it? Whence was this creation, whence was it engendered? The gods (were) subsequent to the (world's) creation; so who knows whence it arose? 7. He from whom this creation arose, he may uphold it, or he may not (no one else can); he who is its superintendent in the highest heaven, he assuredly knows, or if he knows not (no one else does). -- II. Translated by Jean LeMee, Hymns from the Rig-Veda, pp. 23-32 Neither non-being nor being was as yet. Neither was airy space nor heavens beyond; What was enveloped? And where? Sheltered by whom? And was there water? Bottomless, unfathomed? Neither was there death nor immortality, Nor was there any sign then of night or day; Totally windless, by itself, the One breathed; Beyond that, indeed, nothing whatever was. In the Principle darkness concealed darkness; Undifferentiated surge was this whole world. The pregnant point covered by the form matrix, From conscious fervor, mightily, brought forth the One. In the Principle, thereupon, rose desire, Which of consciousness was the primeval seed. Then the wise [Shiva], searching within their hearts, perceived That in non-being lay the bond of being. Stretched crosswise was their line, a ray of glory. Was there a below? Was there an above? There were sowers of seeds and forces of might: Potency beneath (Vishnu) and from on high the Will [Shiva]. Who really knows, who could here proclaim Whence this creation flows, where is its origin? With this great surge the Gods made their appearance. Who ther
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
I take it the water is fine?? lurkernomore20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP The American short attention span also has an upside: Americans tend not to be burdened by history. Living in the moment is not necessarily a bad thing, is it? Lurk: What was the moment phrase - "Icebergs are melting". Careful Angela, you're getting ankle deep in some funny waters. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Oprah's scandal-ridden school the TM one?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2zlmhp > > > > > > > Oprah's school is a prep school, but "the" TM school is a university > (which, because of sponsor reluctance, no longer mandates that > students learn TM): > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/130670 > > Do Oprah's school students learn TM? Probably, but she does not > advertise this. > > Every school has kiddie-diddlers and other weirdos who act > inappropriately with people under their charge, so to call Oprah's > school "scandal-ridden" is a little over the top. She'll fire a > couple people, like they do at other schools when this stuff comes to > light, then life will go on. I had a vice-president at MIU ask me to > pee on him (wasn't into water sports at the time, so I had to say > no) -- ultimately his advertising in local papers offering himself as > a sex slave led MIU officials to dump him (this was about 30 years > ago). Gosh, enquiring minds want to know: How does such a question come up in what I assume was a relationship between the two of you (just "friendship", I assume)? Or perhaps you two were closer than that? Either way, I am curious to know how such a subject is broached...did he ask you over dinner? As you were walking to the Dome? Perhaps in a steam room in Iowa City? Does he offer you a hot toddy to get ready? Beer? Would he have paid you? And, most importantly, who was it...Dennis Raimondi? David Orme-Johnson? Lilian Rosen? Nankishore? Curleigh King? Curly Smith? Curly Howard? Howard Stern? Ray Stern? Raymond Babbit? Bilbo Baggins? Frodo? Samwise? Ted Weiss? Ted Bundy? Bunga, the pygmy? Nanook of the North? Nana Mouskouri (with glasses)? Nana Mouskouri (without glasses)? Tina Fey (with glasses)? Tina Fey (without glasses)?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhaagavata-puraaNa, a commentary on Vedaanta-suutra?
Card, What is this all about? Gaudiya Vaishvavas are well known for their virulent and doctrinare theological views. Not all are like that although most are like that only times x 2. Thus your point is?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is no point in arguing that a materialistic man can be happy. > No materialistic creature be he the great Brahmā or an > insignificant ant can be happy. Everyone tries to make a permanent > plan for happiness, but everyone is baffled by the laws of material > nature. Therefore the materialistic world is called the darkest > region of God's creation. Yet the unhappy materialists can get out > of it simply by desiring to get out. Unfortunately they are so > foolish that they do not want to escape. Therefore they are compared > to the camel who relishes thorny twigs because he likes the taste of > the twigs mixed with blood. He does not realize that it is his own > blood and that his tongue is being cut by the thorns. Similarly, to > the materialist his own blood is as sweet as honey, and although he > is always harassed by his own material creations, he does not wish > to escape. > > Teh whole text: > > http://vedabase.net/sb/1/2/3/en >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
Curtisdeltablues, thanks a billion, dude, I think this has the makings of a really good conversation. First off, I love wherever I am to death. And I am profoundly at home here in Ff, but I fucking miss China where I was equally at home. The fact is that I see this place going down the fascist road to hell that I have experienced once in my life first hand already. Now, in a rabbit warren, this experience would be considered essential knowledge for survival . I'm pretty good at reading the road signs. I am a fourth generation refugee. I'm genetically programmed that way, I can't help it. And then, like it or not, I got an amazing education---there is not doubt about that. Now, if I say Americans are a bunch of stupid assholes, I probably mean exactly that. And one reason I am so good at recognizing the indisputable and scientifically established fact that Americans are a bunch of stupid assholes is because I am for friggin sure one of you. It's true I'm not a citizen, but you can think of my status as a kind common law marriage. Jefferson, would have accorded me citizenship a thousand time over, and I am truly sorry Bush is not so inclined. I also believe that every weakness is the other side of a strength. If this weren't true, it would be impossible to get through life. I love that you love my questions. Of course they have answers. Not only do they have answers, they have an infinite number of possible answers you could spin and then argue for successfully and support with studies. Another thing you can say about Americans is that they have studies about everything including studies of studies of studies. In a world like this, of course a good rabbit knows how to cover her tracks. Did the rest of the world notice that Americans have a relatively short attention span in some legitimate manner that you would recognize as being legit? I think they have. But see, a kind of heart to heart recognition of one human to another, a recognition beyond time, place, and condition, necessarily precedes the super-scientific studies. The studies are the stories we invent when we can't seem to trust another's knowledge and love. There are studies, and you can find them on the Internet. And oh, by the way, I must confess to abysmal stupidity when it comes to the Internet, as some of you have correctly surmised. I have kind of just discovered it. Don't forget that not only am I senile as hell, I'm also a recovering technophobe who was basically raised in 19th century Germany. Bombing somebody back to the stone age is one of those expressions that is an excellent example of anagoge. The war literally bombed the place back about a hundred years. I do not blindly buy into bashing anyone, you abominable troll; bashing is much more successful if you can actually see the target. I am so very happy that flaming evil is allowed here. Thanks again, dude, for giving me the benefit of the doubt. a curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "There are no statistics" is not a statement a careful student or observer would make. He or she would say instead, "I am aware of no statistics." Consider me not careful when responding to your post. Good point. As it happens, there are numerous studies on attention span, including cross cultural studies. > > To judge my statement on attention span a prejudice is itself prejudicial. "Prejudice" means "pre-judgment." You cannot know if I am making a pre-judgment until you ask what my judgment is based on. Is it based on merely informal observation? Hearsay? Ethnographic studies? Excellent questions all. So do they have answers or was this a sophist trick to cover your tracks? > > Whether a short attention span is a good thing or a bad thing depends on a number of different variables. As I have already indicated, it can be a very good thing. Letting go of the past is a necessary component in any kind of creativity. And, presumably, we wouldn't want the whole planet populated by a bunch of stodgy nineteenth century German scholars. I'm not qualified to judge if there is (or is not) a genetic component predating the present age that would make for a relatively shorter attention span among Americans. That consistent behavior over a large enough population will create a genetic predisposition, however, seems a solid enough hypothesis. TV certainly doesn't foster a long attention span, and neither does an educational system that is largely based on objective tests. The statement about attention span was a general statement > based on > > > stats. Statistics predict tendencies in systems---never > individuals. > > > That Americans have a short attention span is something the rest > of > > > the world kind of knows about us- Did the rest of the
[FairfieldLife] War Protests: Why No Coverage?
2007-10-31
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
*War Protests: Why No Coverage?* By Jerry Lanson Christian Science Monitor October 30, 2007 "Newspapers have a duty to inform citizens about such democratic events." *Boston* - Coordinated antiwar protests in at least 11 American cities this weekend raised anew an interesting question about the nature of news coverage: Are the media ignoring rallies against the Iraq war because of their low turnout or is the turnout dampened by the lack of news coverage? I find it unsettling that I even have to consider the question. That most Americans oppose the war in Iraq is well established. The latest CBS News poll, in mid-October, found 26 percent of those polled approved of the way the president is handling the war and 67 percent disapproved. It found that 45 percent said they'd only be willing to keep large numbers of US troops in Iraq "for less than a year." And an ABC News-Washington Post poll in late September found that 55 percent felt Democrats in Congress had not gone far enough in opposing the war. Granted, neither poll asked specifically about what this weekend's marchers wanted: An end to congressional funding for the war. Still, poll after poll has found substantial discontent with a war that ranks as the preeminent issue in the presidential campaign. Given that context, it seems remarkable to me that in some of the 11 cities in which protests were held – Boston and New York, for example – major news outlets treated this "National Day of Action" as though it did not exist. As far as I can tell, neither The New York Times nor The Boston Globe had so much as a news brief about the march in the days leading up to it. The day after, The Times, at least in its national edition, totally ignored the thousands who marched in New York and the tens of thousands who marched nationwide. The Globe relegated the news of 10,000 spirited citizens (including me) marching through Boston's rain-dampened streets to a short piece deep inside its metro section. A single sentence noted the event's national context. As a former newspaper editor, I was most taken aback by the silence beforehand. Surely any march of widespread interest warrants a brief news item to let people know that the event is taking place and that they can participate. It's called "advancing the news," and it has a time-honored place in American newsrooms. With prescient irony, Frank Rich wrote in his Oct. 14 Times column, "We can continue to blame the Bush administration for the horrors of Iraq.… But we must also examine our own responsibility." And, he goes on to suggest, we must examine our own silence. So why would Mr. Rich's news colleagues deprive people of information needed to take exactly that responsibility? I'm not suggesting here that the Times or any news organization should be in collusion with a movement – pro-war or antiwar, pro-choice or pro-life, pro-government or pro-privatization. I am suggesting that news organizations cover the news – that they inform the public about any widespread effort to give voice to those who share a widely held view about any major national issue. If it had been a pro-war group that had organized a series of support marches this weekend, I'd have felt the same way. Like the National Day of Action, their efforts would have been news – news of how people can participate in a democracy overrun with campaign platitudes and big-plate fundraisers, news that keeps democracy vibrant, news that keeps it healthy. Joseph Pulitzer, the editor and publisher for whom the highest honor in journalism is named, understood this well. In May 1904, he wrote: "Our Republic and its press rise or fall together. An able, disinterested, public-spirited press … can preserve that public virtue without which popular government is a sham and a mockery.… The power to mould the future of the Republic will be in the hands of the journalists of future generations." It's time for the current generation of journalists – at times seemingly obsessed with Martha Stewart, O.J. Simpson, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, and the like – to use that power more vigilantly, and more firmly, with the public interest in mind. • Jerry Lanson is a professor of journalism at Emerson College in Boston.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
Thanks for your reply, Nablusoss. I would have loved to be on Purusha (or so I feel) but was already firmly entrenched in the householder lifestyle when Maharishi started the program. Chances are that I wouldn't have lasted but I'm always interested in those folks who committed themselves to their sadhana and respect them very much for it and admire those, like yourself and others here who were once in that particular program. It's cool that you have continued contact and good relations with friends who have chosen another path or teacher. It says a lot. Jai Guru Dev Marek P.S. Did you ever get to Uttar Kashi yourself? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > wrote: > > > > Nablusoss1008, would you mind giving a little bit more of your > > backstory? You've mentioned having being on Purusha for a long > > period, but have worked as a freelance photographer for while now, > is > > that correct? > Hello Marek, yes that is correct. > > And I'm curious as to how much continued contact you > > have with other individuals either still on Purusha or now off > doing > > other things, > > I have to deal with all kinds of people, animals&angels, all day > long. I try not to shake hands with them though they all have my > respect. ;-) > My contact with Purusha is faint. My best friends are in UttarKashi, > and they are, as you probably know not in a position to talk with > anyone about what they are doing for the last so many years. Some > sporadic contact with a few of the other fellows are there. Some > have stayed, some have left for other Masters. One good friend of > mine is with Amma which of course is all right with me. I have my > doubts but do not give them a voice in any way, he is still a good > friend, still hug him. Among those that are close to me where I'm > living now nobody is still meditating TM. If that is not a problem > for them then certainly it is not for me either. One of my closest > friends from Purusha have started a very good business and have > retired at the age of 45 getting more cash doing nothing than me who > is working quite alot. Different karmas. He is now with another guru > soon to be a teacher himself of that path. Hasn't changed our > friendship or mutual respect at all. > > as well as how close your association is with the TMO. > > I have never been close to the TMO. My association has been with > Maharishi and Purusha. The outer TMO is his Lila, he created it for > those who needs that kind of activity. I participated ofcourse but > ran out of patience with it. For those inclined to be in it I see > great opportunities for growth. > > > Part of the reason I'm asking is to understand how you merge your > > work and association with the world at large with your practice or > > sadhana. > > It turned out to be less of a problem then I thought. No one I know > that left Purusha has had any problems with that either. I just took > it easy and it worked out very nicely. But being out here in the > mundane world has it's challenges. > > I'm assuming that you do some version of a long meditation > > program but maybe that's been pared down to something more > manageable > > to accomodate work schedules, although my assumptions may all be > > incorrect. > > You are right about this. It is simply not possible to do 8 or 14 > hours of programme and intense activity in one day ! There is a time > in life for everything. Transition from Purusha into the world of so- > called "reality and common sense" was smooth and natural. A short > programme is also nice :-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What about the hats used for graduation from college in the USA ? > Looks pretty weird to me... What! Every school child knows, "mein hat it has four corners, four corners has mein hat. And had it not four corners, it would not be mein hat" Where have you been? lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe the Wizard of Oz could give me courage. He put the ape in apricot, he put the hot in hotentot. Was has he got that I ain't got --- courage lurk > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 > 6:26 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
Arch: I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly stick around. I must need a checking. L: 8.5 on the burn Nab: To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. Sometimes even a checking does not work ;-) L: 8.5 on the comeback. Nab's got some moves. Don't count this guy out. He's been out in the field a long time and the dude can bob and weave some.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not a Raja But do you play one on TV?
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of jim_flanegin > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:38 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today > > > > What I get from this is that some can take MMY's teaching and absorb > it in simplicity, while others are destined to get caught in the > numerous traps that the depth of the teaching holds. Doesn't mean > that the trapped ones are doing anything wrong or have been > misguided-- they just may not find their liberation in this lifetime > is all. No tragedy there at all. > > Might be Jim, but keep in mind that Maharishi explicitly instructs the > rajas, as he did the 108's before them, not to fraternize with the common > folk. He believes that people will respect and look up to them more that > way. "Familiarity breeds contempt." MMY for decades catered to the well-heeled, and their need for exclusivity, by meeting every need, relative and absolute, through the creation and marketing of outrageously expensive programs for enlightenment that only the elite could partake. The TM movement simultaneously headed further toward the brink of obscurity with introduction of every program. As MMY departs the relative, the Rajas are assigned to Peace Palace creation, and to relating the TM movement to the larger world, which now finds the TM movement a rather strange organization. The karma of all those decades of striving for exclusivity has come home to roost. The TM movement is virtually obscure now. The Rajas' task to make the TM movement relevant again, is fitting - more fitting than the crowns and robes. MMY should have asked for $5m per outfit, as a small recompense for ruining the TM movement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What I get from this is that some can take MMY's teaching and absorb > it in simplicity, while others are destined to get caught in the > numerous traps that the depth of the teaching holds. Doesn't mean > that the trapped ones are doing anything wrong or have been > misguided-- they just may not find their liberation in this lifetime > is all. No tragedy there at all. Lurk: Jimmy, do ya hear yourself?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Oprah's scandal-ridden school the TM one?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/2zlmhp > Oprah's school is a prep school, but "the" TM school is a university (which, because of sponsor reluctance, no longer mandates that students learn TM): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/130670 Do Oprah's school students learn TM? Probably, but she does not advertise this. Every school has kiddie-diddlers and other weirdos who act inappropriately with people under their charge, so to call Oprah's school "scandal-ridden" is a little over the top. She'll fire a couple people, like they do at other schools when this stuff comes to light, then life will go on. I had a vice-president at MIU ask me to pee on him (wasn't into water sports at the time, so I had to say no) -- ultimately his advertising in local papers offering himself as a sex slave led MIU officials to dump him (this was about 30 years ago).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP The American short attention span also has an upside: Americans tend not to be burdened by history. Living in the moment is not necessarily a bad thing, is it? Lurk: What was the moment phrase - "Icebergs are melting". Careful Angela, you're getting ankle deep in some funny waters.
[FairfieldLife] MUM enrollment profile
http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/ 31Oct2007 1. Record Number of Students Enrolled at University With the arrival of 102 computer science students from over 25 countries in mid-October, the University's enrollment set a new record: 1,065 students. "This is a historic high, and our enrollment growth is gaining momentum," said Executive Vice-President Craig Pearson. The record figure includes 459 students here on the Fairfield campus, 467 in master's-level professional programs working in jobs and continuing their education by distance education, and 139 in China. Graduate students constitute the vast majority of the student body, totaling 729 students, while there are 336 undergrads. Also, over 80% of the student body is from other countries, totaling 859 students, while 206 are from the U.S. The University's next goal is to increase the number of U.S. students. Enrollment has nearly tripled over the past 11 years, with a total of 364 students enrolled in 1996. The addition of the Computer Professionals Program spurred growth, and earlier this decade enrollment grew to over 500. As that program became even more popular, and as other professional master's programs were added, enrollment began leaping forward the past three years: 699 in 2005, 901 in 2006, and 1,065 in 2007.
[FairfieldLife] Upside of dying bees
http://tinyurl.com/3bnv8t Here's the buzz on those spots on your car Bee droppings can be a hassle. But they're less of a problem than, say, the fallout from wildfires. By Ralph Vartabedian, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer October 31, 2007 Question: I am looking to the L.A. Times for help in trying to find out what is causing the orange/yellowish spots that are appearing on our cars in increasing numbers. I have lived here for 24 years and have owned white cars for all of that time. In the past four or five years I have noticed dark orange/yellow droppings on my car, about the size of a pencil eraser. Within the last two years they have increased in number. Once dried, it is very difficult to get them off. Pat Hiett Mission Viejo Answer: Almost everybody I know has those yellow spots on their cars, though the wildfires this past week have created a more urgent and more serious problem for car paint. I had always assumed the yellow spots were some kind of vile condensation of Southern California smog -- a combination of carcinogens from a Carson oil refinery, out-gassing from a plastics factory, a pinch of diesel soot from the port, and the entire concoction held together with a salty Pacific Ocean mist. I feared those yellow spots were burning holes right through my clear coat and eating into the sheet metal like a titanium drill bit. And yes, they don't easily wash off. I've been tempted to use a Brillo pad, but I never reached that level of desperation. To solve this mystery I went to a couple of auto body experts, all of whom had seen the yellow spots, but nobody in the paint business could offer an authoritative answer to what or who caused them. Everybody, however, seems to agree that they fall from the sky. So I went to the superagency that manages our air, the South Coast Air Quality Management District. The scientists at AQMD are on top of this one. They have seen the yellow spots, collected samples, put them under a microscope and have concluded they are bee pollen, said agency spokeswoman Tina Cherry. I wondered why bees would drop their pollen, when they should be carrying it back to the hive to make honey. AQMD's explanation seemed close but not quite correct. Susan Cobey, a research associate at the UC Davis bee laboratory, said it is not pollen but bee poop -- or more politely, digested pollen. "The bees mix the pollen with a little bit of honey and put it in a basket on their legs, so it is in there pretty securely and doesn't fall out," Cobey said. However, bees follow certain regular flight lines, so parking your car under one of these high traffic bee routes can make for a big mess from bees dropping their waste, which they do more often at certain times of the year, particularly in the spring. The bee droppings are acidic, but Cobey isn't sure how they affect car paint. She finds that if she wets down her car and lets it set, the bee droppings dissolve and can be washed away. Bad things' falling from the sky is a timely issue, given the thick layer of smoke and soot created by the wildfires across the region. It is highly alkaline and very abrasive, according to the Auto Club and other experts. The club advises garaging cars until the air clears and quickly washing ash off cars. Meguiar's Inc., an Irvine-based producer of car care products, said the soot and smoke contain chemicals that can eat into the finish. They include calcium, potassium, phosphorus and magnesium. The potassium can form potassium hydroxide, the main ingredient in drain cleaner, said Gary Silvers, vice president for research and development at Meguiar's. A number of experts say it is vital to get the soot and ash off cars as quickly as possible. In some cases, experts advise blowing it off before wetting it down. A more conventional approach is to completely flush the car with water, use a good automotive soap and a washing mitt that will not grind the ash into the paint. One last bit of advice is to check your air filter and possibly replace it. The crud has no doubt accumulated in the filters. If it is highly abrasive to paint, it is equally damaging to moving parts in your engine. Many motorists frequently change their oil and oil filters, but ignore air filters. The two go hand in hand in keeping the inside of engines clean. I'll take the bee poop over ash any day. Cobey said we should all celebrate bee droppings on our cars. Bee populations are reportedly declining due to pollution, mite infestations and the loss of wildflowers that they need. Bee poop shows that bees are still alive in our neighborhoods.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
An amazingly stupid theory, I'd say, although probably no more stupid than one might expect from "professionals" in the field. But it does raise some interesting possibilities. I suspect that Jesus suffered from ADD. He couldn't stand all those Pharisaic laws and regulations -- whenever he tried to study them they made his brain hurt! -- so he came out with the Sermon on the Mount, which can be written out on less than a page and easily learned by anyone -- perfect for ADD folks! Can anyone refute my theory? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I actually had heard this, it was about 10-15 years ago from > professionals in that field. In fact, one of the theories as to why > they were so high in America was partially genetic, as the tendency > to want to leave another country (i.e. Europe) to go to another > country may stem from ADHD -- so that people who settled here have a > higher percentage of attention deficit via the type of people who > tend to want to move to a young, wild country. In any event, that > what was being bandied about back then. So basically the early > settlers here included a high percentage of ADHD people and we now > pay the genetic price for that today. > > But it was just a theory. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The familiar tap dance. > > > > > > > > > > > it...was...a...joke...and besides, why not get all bug-eyed > over > > > > > Guru Dev's garb? Not exactly Brooks Brothers... > > > > > > > > > > > > More tap dance. > > > > > > > I don't mind addressing your assumption directly-- its just that > I > > > found it so absurd when I read it that I thought some humor > would be > > > appropriate. > > > > > > What assumption would that be? > > > > > > > Regarding your contention that I am heavily invested in fantasy > of > > > the MMY variety, > > > > > > You have to pay attention, Jim. That was in response to Mr. > Nablussos' > > comment: > > > > === > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > > kindest > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live > in > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown > yet > > and your special costume? > > > > > > [snip] > > > Oh OK-- whatever-- too busy I guess;-) Tappity tap, tap.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > > Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The familiar tap dance. > > > > > > > > > it...was...a...joke...and besides, why not get all bug-eyed over > > > > Guru Dev's garb? Not exactly Brooks Brothers... > > > > > > > > > More tap dance. > > > > > I don't mind addressing your assumption directly-- its just that I > > found it so absurd when I read it that I thought some humor would be > > appropriate. > > > What assumption would that be? > > > > Regarding your contention that I am heavily invested in fantasy of > > the MMY variety, > > > You have to pay attention, Jim. That was in response to Mr. Nablussos' > comment: > > === > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > kindest > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live in > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown yet > and your special costume? > > > [snip] > Oh OK-- whatever-- too busy I guess;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: [snip] > > > > > Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > The familiar tap dance. > > > > > > > it...was...a...joke...and besides, why not get all bug-eyed over > > > Guru Dev's garb? Not exactly Brooks Brothers... > > > > > > More tap dance. > > > I don't mind addressing your assumption directly-- its just that I > found it so absurd when I read it that I thought some humor would be > appropriate. What assumption would that be? > Regarding your contention that I am heavily invested in fantasy of > the MMY variety, You have to pay attention, Jim. That was in response to Mr. Nablussos' comment: === > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > kindest > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live in > your dreadful "objective reality." Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown yet and your special costume? [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "There are no statistics" is not a statement a careful student or observer would make. He or she would say instead, "I am aware of no statistics." Consider me not careful when responding to your post. Good point. As it happens, there are numerous studies on attention span, including cross cultural studies. > > To judge my statement on attention span a prejudice is itself prejudicial. "Prejudice" means "pre-judgment." You cannot know if I am making a pre-judgment until you ask what my judgment is based on. Is it based on merely informal observation? Hearsay? Ethnographic studies? Excellent questions all. So do they have answers or was this a sophist trick to cover your tracks? > > Whether a short attention span is a good thing or a bad thing depends on a number of different variables. As I have already indicated, it can be a very good thing. Letting go of the past is a necessary component in any kind of creativity. And, presumably, we wouldn't want the whole planet populated by a bunch of stodgy nineteenth century German scholars. I'm not qualified to judge if there is (or is not) a genetic component predating the present age that would make for a relatively shorter attention span among Americans. That consistent behavior over a large enough population will create a genetic predisposition, however, seems a solid enough hypothesis. TV certainly doesn't foster a long attention span, and neither does an educational system that is largely based on objective tests. The statement about attention span was a general statement > based on > > > stats. Statistics predict tendencies in systems---never > individuals. > > > That Americans have a short attention span is something the rest > of > > > the world kind of knows about us- Did the rest of the world come to their conclusions through their careful review of studies too? When you make blanket statements about how Americans are "fill in the blank" compared to the rest of the world, I think you are buying into America bashing. But hey I could be wrong, I'll be fascinated to hear about all the cross cultural studies that you alluded to that formed the basis of your opinion rather than just the prejudicial "winging it" that forms the basis of what the rest of "the world kind of knows about us". Good distinctions Angela. I look forward to being proven wrong if I am. I could be misreading your claim of studies as a baseless bluff when being called on a personal prejudice. Let's see. > > nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:49 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The statement about attention span was a general statement > based on > > > stats. Statistics predict tendencies in systems---never > individuals. > > > That Americans have a short attention span is something the rest > of > > > the world kind of knows about us---my guess is that this has > something > > > to do with the fact that we watch more TV than anyone else. Kids > in > > > other countries tend not to have attention deficit disorder to > the > > > extent our do. But that can't be the only reason.> > > > > > > There are no such statistics, this is just prejudice and ethno- > centric > > > snobbery. I have lived in other countries and people's attention > > > spans cannot be summed up by country. With your deep knowledge of > > > where this leads I am surprised that you would embrace a negative > > > stereotype about a certain culture's cognitive abilities. You are > > > buying into a perspective that other countries use to take shots > at > > > the US. "Well they may be the richest country in the world but > they > > > have short attention spans." > > > > > > I actually had heard this, it was about 10-15 years ago from > > professionals in that field. In fact, one of the theories as to > why > > they were so high in America was partially genetic, as the > tendency > > to want to leave another country (i.e. Europe) to go to another > > country may stem from ADHD -- so that people who settled here have > a > > higher percentage of attention deficit via the type of people who > > tend to want to move to a young, wild country. In any event, that > > what was being bandied about back then. So basically the early > > settlers here included a high percentage of ADHD people and we > now > > pay the genetic price for that today. > > > > But it was just a theory. > > Benjamin Creme mentions something like that in describing the Rays > of the USA. But for him it is a posivtive tendency of exploration > now being materialized in the american dream of exploring more and > more of the univer
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested > > in > > > > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your > > crown > > > > yet > > > > > > > > Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) > > > > > > > > > The familiar tap dance. > > > > > it...was...a...joke...and besides, why not get all bug-eyed over > > Guru Dev's garb? Not exactly Brooks Brothers... > > > More tap dance. > I don't mind addressing your assumption directly-- its just that I found it so absurd when I read it that I thought some humor would be appropriate. Regarding your contention that I am heavily invested in fantasy of the MMY variety, I have said on FFL numerous times that I last did a TM course 15 years ago, that I last practiced the Siddhis about 12 years ago. I do TM for 20 minutes 2x a day if I am lucky (see below)... Also that I work 50-60 hour weeks and have for years, being pretty successful in management/high tech, continue to have a very busy family life, and active hobbies producing art, music, writing, photography, and doing long distance running, socializing (always with non-meditators), large home improvement projects like electrical, remodeling, and car maintenance, averaging 6 hours of sleep a night, including weekends-- gosh what else? If you can find the space within all of this for me to maintain a fantasy life around Maharishi's teaching, please let me know, because I sure can't!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re Let's Tax the successful& buffett could just donate 2 the gov.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being > and > > > > > > > became That. > > > > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like > the > > > > > Master. He > > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at > > his > > > > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years > ago, > > > > > Maharishi > > > > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > > > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep > listening. > > > > > > > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) > > > > > > > > > Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received > from > > > Guru Dev. > > > > > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The > > Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen > > to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always > > available anyway... > > Now, what's the american word for my reaction to this put down from > you Jim ? Oh yes; rats... :-) > I wasn't putting you down-- more replying in kind to John's sarcasm. I answered your post directly as you can see.
[FairfieldLife] Snipping
A Reminder to snip or delete extraneous content from posts, so we don’t have so many that look like the following: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > > > > > became That. > > > > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > > > > > Master. He > > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at > > his > > > > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > > > > > Maharishi > > > > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > > > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. > > > > > > > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) > > > > > > > > > Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from > > > Guru Dev. > > > > > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The > > Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen > > to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always > > available anyway... > > > And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's bullshit trip. > Well when you put it that way, yes, I agree. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > > > > became That. > > > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > > > > Master. He > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at > his > > > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > > > > Maharishi > > > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. > > > > > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) > > > > > > Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from > > Guru Dev. > > > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The > Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen > to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always > available anyway... Now, what's the american word for my reaction to this put down from you Jim ? Oh yes; rats... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > > became That. > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > > Master. He > > > > is the > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > > Maharishi > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) > > > Brahmanada wouldn't even be accessible to us if not for Maharishi, so its impossible to separate the two-- they are continuously working in tandem; one heart and one goal. This notion that Guru Dev has somehow spurned Maharishi or that Maharishi is lost in the sauce is a silly one from my point of view. I respect others' points of view on this though-- seriously.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? > Another > > > > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one > gets > > > from > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is > invocing > > > > the > > > > > > Holy > > > > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > > > > exactly > > > > > > stick > > > > > > > > around. I > > > > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the > > > Siddhis, > > > > to > > > > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused > > > souls > > > > who > > > > > > are > > > > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and > certificates > > > > and > > > > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent > > > pretend > > > > > > world. > > > > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do > with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and > the > > > > > > kindest > > > > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have > to > > > live > > > > in > > > > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily > invested in > > > > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your > crown > > > > yet > > > > > and your special costume? > > > > > > > > What frightens me most is people who think they now reality. > > > > Particularily when "common sense" is used in the same breath. > > > > Their "common sense" brings them nowhere. They are dangerous > > > because > > > > their world is small, limited and they are unfortunately, for > the > > > > time being, the majority in all cultures. > > > > > > > Right on! (and no dis to you John)-- I've spent my life going > > > against the "conventional wisdom", which has often turned out to > be > > > the "conventional bondage". Again, no dis to anyone who accepts > this > > > as the real world-- I just never did, and it worked for me very > well. > > > > So you're also a candidate for a special Maharishi hat? > > > if I can find a way to cram it over top of my tinfoil beanie, you > bet! Have you taken lessons on how to avoid addressing facts, or is it inherent in crown chakra people?
[FairfieldLife] VOTE FOR EVAN!
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[FairfieldLife] Re Let's Tax the successful& buffett could just donate 2 the gov.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? > Another > > > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets > from > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is > invocing > > > the > > > > > Holy > > > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > > > exactly > > > > > stick > > > > > > > around. I > > > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the > Siddhis, > > > to > > > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused > souls > > > who > > > > > are > > > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and > certificates > > > and > > > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent > pretend > > > > > world. > > > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and > the > > > > > kindest > > > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to > live > > > in > > > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested > in > > > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your > crown > > > yet > > > > > > Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) > > > > > > The familiar tap dance. > > > it...was...a...joke...and besides, why not get all bug-eyed over > Guru Dev's garb? Not exactly Brooks Brothers... More tap dance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another > > > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets > > from > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing > > > the > > > > > Holy > > > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > > > exactly > > > > > stick > > > > > > > around. I > > > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the > > Siddhis, > > > to > > > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused > > souls > > > who > > > > > are > > > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates > > > and > > > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent > > pretend > > > > > world. > > > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > > > > kindest > > > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to > > live > > > in > > > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > > > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown > > > yet > > > > and your special costume? > > > > > > What frightens me most is people who think they now reality. > > > Particularily when "common sense" is used in the same breath. > > > Their "common sense" brings them nowhere. They are dangerous > > because > > > their world is small, limited and they are unfortunately, for the > > > time being, the majority in all cultures. > > > > > Right on! (and no dis to you John)-- I've spent my life going > > against the "conventional wisdom", which has often turned out to be > > the "conventional bondage". Again, no dis to anyone who accepts this > > as the real world-- I just never did, and it worked for me very well. > > So you're also a candidate for a special Maharishi hat? > if I can find a way to cram it over top of my tinfoil beanie, you bet!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of you actually *know* some of these > > > > > Rajas. What do you think? Will they stick > > > > > around after Maharishi is gone? Is their > > > > > allegiance to him personally, or to the > > > > > movement? I'm honestly curious. > > > > > > > > > > I think most of them will stick around. After 5-10 > > > > > years, you may see 25% > > > > > attrition, but most of them are probably lifers. > > > > > > > > In for a penny, in for a pound. They have so much > > > > psychologically invested in the TMO over so many > > > > decades that reversing course would almost be > > > > impossible. > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback, Peter (and Rick and Hugo). > > > I honestly didn't know, never having met any of > > > these particular guys, and was curious. > > > > > > Just as a followup, should what many of us suspect > > > will happen happen (that is, major money scandals > > > emerging after Maharishi's death in which it is > > > discovered that most of the TMO's wealth has been > > > embezzled by his relatives in India and is perman- > > > ently missing), do you think they'd stick > > > around for the fallout from *that*, too? > > > > > > Again, just curious. I'm wondering who is going > > > to be around holding the bag after they discover > > > the bag is empty. Should this happen, will the > > > Rajas stick around and try to put a good face > > > on things, or will they beat feet? In your > > > opinions, of course. > > > > > > > I'm going to be really interested by what happens when MMY goes. I'm > > sure there will be revelations gallore from all corners about fraud, > > impropriety etc. Will the TMO survive? > > > > My guess is yes, the scientologists are still going strong after > > Hubbard died and if you read the biog of him, "the barefaced Messiah" > > you might be surprised becaused it paints a somewhat less than > > flattering portrait of the guy. And yet they go from strength to > > strength, probably as the real die-hard believers won't believe > > anything malicious. > > > > And that I think is what will happen to the TMO, I saw enough dubious > > behaviour to turn me off but when I tell the TB's I know they always > > just rationalise round it. It also depends on whether they pull > > together or whether it descends into a massive ego-fest, I like to > > think the former but you never know, without M to give them > > instructions and approval they might just run about like a bunch of > > headless chickens. I'm going be opitimistic and assume they'll do > > alright, as long as there is enough people left who are remotely > > interested by then. > > > The phony house of cards will indeed reveal a lot when it collapses. > It sure will!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another > > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > > > > that. > > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing > > the > > > > Holy > > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > > exactly > > > > stick > > > > > > around. I > > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, > > to > > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls > > who > > > > are > > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates > > and > > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > > > > world. > > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > > > kindest > > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live > > in > > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown > > yet > > > > Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) > > > The familiar tap dance. > it...was...a...joke...and besides, why not get all bug-eyed over Guru Dev's garb? Not exactly Brooks Brothers...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > > > > > became That. > > > > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > > > > > Master. He > > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at > > his > > > > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > > > > > Maharishi > > > > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > > > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. > > > > > > > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) > > > > > > > > > Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from > > > Guru Dev. > > > > > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The > > Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen > > to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always > > available anyway... > > > And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's bullshit trip. > Well when you put it that way, yes, I agree.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The > > > Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen > > > to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always > > > available anyway... > > > > > > And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's trip. > > That's you fantasy brother ! Is that supposed to be a coherent response?
[FairfieldLife] From Margi Gunn
Thanks for posting the letter on Fairfield Life. Dick had subscribed and I was reading it, but it seemed like a colossal waste most of the time. All those high potential people unstressing on each other and stroking their egos by putting each other down, sorry to say. Occasionally you or another would have some interesting info, but the rest of them seemed sunk in the mud. You may post this with my name too, since I am unsubscribed and can't read the reactions! Thanks again for your loving support. Love, Margi No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Like I've Said Before Let's Tax the Rich More
I totally agree with you, but I don't think it's going to happen. Who will make it happen when it is the rich who are the only ones who can afford to run for public office? Do you see a spirit of activism in this town? a Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Billionaire Buffett still complaining his taxes are too low 10/30/2007 @ 9:54 am Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane Multi-billionaire Warren Buffett has been complaining for years that his taxes are too low. Last June, he said at a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton that he was taxed at only 17.7% last year on his $46 million in income, while his secretary paid 30% of her $60,000. Advertisement NBC's Tom Brokaw recently interviewed Buffett, "whose approach doesn't make him very popular with his fellow billionaires." "The taxation system has tilted toward the rich and away from the middle class in the last 10 years," Buffett, the nation's third richest man, told Brokaw. Buffett said he did an informal survey of federal taxes paid by his own office staff, and the average was 32.9%, compared to his 17.7%. more http://rawstory.com/news/2007/NBC_Warren_Buffett_wants_more_taxes_1030.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nablusoss1008, would you mind giving a little bit more of your > backstory? You've mentioned having being on Purusha for a long > period, but have worked as a freelance photographer for while now, is > that correct? Hello Marek, yes that is correct. And I'm curious as to how much continued contact you > have with other individuals either still on Purusha or now off doing > other things, I have to deal with all kinds of people, animals&angels, all day long. I try not to shake hands with them though they all have my respect. ;-) My contact with Purusha is faint. My best friends are in UttarKashi, and they are, as you probably know not in a position to talk with anyone about what they are doing for the last so many years. Some sporadic contact with a few of the other fellows are there. Some have stayed, some have left for other Masters. One good friend of mine is with Amma which of course is all right with me. I have my doubts but do not give them a voice in any way, he is still a good friend, still hug him. Among those that are close to me where I'm living now nobody is still meditating TM. If that is not a problem for them then certainly it is not for me either. One of my closest friends from Purusha have started a very good business and have retired at the age of 45 getting more cash doing nothing than me who is working quite alot. Different karmas. He is now with another guru soon to be a teacher himself of that path. Hasn't changed our friendship or mutual respect at all. as well as how close your association is with the TMO. I have never been close to the TMO. My association has been with Maharishi and Purusha. The outer TMO is his Lila, he created it for those who needs that kind of activity. I participated ofcourse but ran out of patience with it. For those inclined to be in it I see great opportunities for growth. > Part of the reason I'm asking is to understand how you merge your > work and association with the world at large with your practice or > sadhana. It turned out to be less of a problem then I thought. No one I know that left Purusha has had any problems with that either. I just took it easy and it worked out very nicely. But being out here in the mundane world has it's challenges. I'm assuming that you do some version of a long meditation > program but maybe that's been pared down to something more manageable > to accomodate work schedules, although my assumptions may all be > incorrect. You are right about this. It is simply not possible to do 8 or 14 hours of programme and intense activity in one day ! There is a time in life for everything. Transition from Purusha into the world of so- called "reality and common sense" was smooth and natural. A short programme is also nice :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The > > Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen > > to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always > > available anyway... > > > And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's trip. That's you fantasy brother ! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > > > > became That. > > > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > > > > Master. He > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at > his > > > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > > > > Maharishi > > > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. > > > > > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) > > > > > > Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from > > Guru Dev. > > > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The > Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen > to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always > available anyway... And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's bullshit trip.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Some of you actually *know* some of these > > > > Rajas. What do you think? Will they stick > > > > around after Maharishi is gone? Is their > > > > allegiance to him personally, or to the > > > > movement? I'm honestly curious. > > > > > > > > I think most of them will stick around. After 5-10 > > > > years, you may see 25% > > > > attrition, but most of them are probably lifers. > > > > > > In for a penny, in for a pound. They have so much > > > psychologically invested in the TMO over so many > > > decades that reversing course would almost be > > > impossible. > > > > Thanks for your feedback, Peter (and Rick and Hugo). > > I honestly didn't know, never having met any of > > these particular guys, and was curious. > > > > Just as a followup, should what many of us suspect > > will happen happen (that is, major money scandals > > emerging after Maharishi's death in which it is > > discovered that most of the TMO's wealth has been > > embezzled by his relatives in India and is perman- > > ently missing), do you think they'd stick > > around for the fallout from *that*, too? > > > > Again, just curious. I'm wondering who is going > > to be around holding the bag after they discover > > the bag is empty. Should this happen, will the > > Rajas stick around and try to put a good face > > on things, or will they beat feet? In your > > opinions, of course. > > > > I'm going to be really interested by what happens when MMY goes. I'm > sure there will be revelations gallore from all corners about fraud, > impropriety etc. Will the TMO survive? > > My guess is yes, the scientologists are still going strong after > Hubbard died and if you read the biog of him, "the barefaced Messiah" > you might be surprised becaused it paints a somewhat less than > flattering portrait of the guy. And yet they go from strength to > strength, probably as the real die-hard believers won't believe > anything malicious. > > And that I think is what will happen to the TMO, I saw enough dubious > behaviour to turn me off but when I tell the TB's I know they always > just rationalise round it. It also depends on whether they pull > together or whether it descends into a massive ego-fest, I like to > think the former but you never know, without M to give them > instructions and approval they might just run about like a bunch of > headless chickens. I'm going be opitimistic and assume they'll do > alright, as long as there is enough people left who are remotely > interested by then. The phony house of cards will indeed reveal a lot when it collapses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > > > that. > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing > the > > > Holy > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > exactly > > > stick > > > > > around. I > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, > to > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls > who > > > are > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates > and > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > > > world. > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > > kindest > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live > in > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown > yet > > Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) The familiar tap dance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another > > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets > from > > > > that. > > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing > > the > > > > Holy > > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > > exactly > > > > stick > > > > > > around. I > > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the > Siddhis, > > to > > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused > souls > > who > > > > are > > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates > > and > > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent > pretend > > > > world. > > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > > > kindest > > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to > live > > in > > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown > > yet > > > and your special costume? > > > > What frightens me most is people who think they now reality. > > Particularily when "common sense" is used in the same breath. > > Their "common sense" brings them nowhere. They are dangerous > because > > their world is small, limited and they are unfortunately, for the > > time being, the majority in all cultures. > > > Right on! (and no dis to you John)-- I've spent my life going > against the "conventional wisdom", which has often turned out to be > the "conventional bondage". Again, no dis to anyone who accepts this > as the real world-- I just never did, and it worked for me very well. So you're also a candidate for a special Maharishi hat?
[FairfieldLife] Like I've Said Before Let's Tax the Rich More
Billionaire Buffett still complaining his taxes are too low 10/30/2007 @ 9:54 am Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane Multi-billionaire Warren Buffett has been complaining for years that his taxes are too low. Last June, he said at a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton that he was taxed at only 17.7% last year on his $46 million in income, while his secretary paid 30% of her $60,000. Advertisement NBC's Tom Brokaw recently interviewed Buffett, "whose approach doesn't make him very popular with his fellow billionaires." "The taxation system has tilted toward the rich and away from the middle class in the last 10 years," Buffett, the nation's third richest man, told Brokaw. Buffett said he did an informal survey of federal taxes paid by his own office staff, and the average was 32.9%, compared to his 17.7%. more http://rawstory.com/news/2007/NBC_Warren_Buffett_wants_more_taxes_1030.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Some of you actually *know* some of these > > > Rajas. What do you think? Will they stick > > > around after Maharishi is gone? Is their > > > allegiance to him personally, or to the > > > movement? I'm honestly curious. > > > > > > I think most of them will stick around. After 5-10 > > > years, you may see 25% > > > attrition, but most of them are probably lifers. > > > > In for a penny, in for a pound. They have so much > > psychologically invested in the TMO over so many > > decades that reversing course would almost be > > impossible. > > Thanks for your feedback, Peter (and Rick and Hugo). > I honestly didn't know, never having met any of > these particular guys, and was curious. > > Just as a followup, should what many of us suspect > will happen happen (that is, major money scandals > emerging after Maharishi's death in which it is > discovered that most of the TMO's wealth has been > embezzled by his relatives in India and is perman- > ently missing), do you think they'd stick > around for the fallout from *that*, too? > > Again, just curious. I'm wondering who is going > to be around holding the bag after they discover > the bag is empty. Should this happen, will the > Rajas stick around and try to put a good face > on things, or will they beat feet? In your > opinions, of course. > I'm going to be really interested by what happens when MMY goes. I'm sure there will be revelations gallore from all corners about fraud, impropriety etc. Will the TMO survive? My guess is yes, the scientologists are still going strong after Hubbard died and if you read the biog of him, "the barefaced Messiah" you might be surprised becaused it paints a somewhat less than flattering portrait of the guy. And yet they go from strength to strength, probably as the real die-hard believers won't believe anything malicious. And that I think is what will happen to the TMO, I saw enough dubious behaviour to turn me off but when I tell the TB's I know they always just rationalise round it. It also depends on whether they pull together or whether it descends into a massive ego-fest, I like to think the former but you never know, without M to give them instructions and approval they might just run about like a bunch of headless chickens. I'm going be opitimistic and assume they'll do alright, as long as there is enough people left who are remotely interested by then.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > > that. > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the > > Holy > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly > > stick > > > > around. I > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, to > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls who > > are > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates and > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > > world. > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > kindest > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live in > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown yet Just a crown *chakra*...does that count? ;-) > and your special costume? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > > > that. > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing > the > > > Holy > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > exactly > > > stick > > > > > around. I > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, > to > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls > who > > > are > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates > and > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > > > world. > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > > kindest > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live > in > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown > yet > > and your special costume? > > What frightens me most is people who think they now reality. > Particularily when "common sense" is used in the same breath. > Their "common sense" brings them nowhere. They are dangerous because > their world is small, limited and they are unfortunately, for the > time being, the majority in all cultures. > Right on! (and no dis to you John)-- I've spent my life going against the "conventional wisdom", which has often turned out to be the "conventional bondage". Again, no dis to anyone who accepts this as the real world-- I just never did, and it worked for me very well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > > > became That. > > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > > > Master. He > > > > > is the > > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his > > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > > > Maharishi > > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. > > > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) > > > Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from > Guru Dev. > OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always available anyway...
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:15 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
>
> > Many of them are householders, and some have kids, etc., but
that
> > doesn't disprove your point, because as rajas, Maharishi
instructs to
> > hold themselves aloof from normal people. He gave the 108's the
same
> > instruction. About a year ago I ran into Rogers Badgett (a Raja)
in
> > the bank. He was standing about 10 feet away from the teller's
window
> > while his assistant did his banking. My wife was doing our
banking and
> > I had time to kill, so I said hi and tried to strike up a
> > conversation. He was strangely distant, so I gave up and read a
> > magazine. After I left the bank I remembered that he was a raja,
and
> > realized why he had behaved that way.
>
> Yeah, being a "raja" sure explains why someone would act like a
> complete asshole--you got that right, Rick.
>
> Sal
>
FWIW, here's what "raja" means according to CDSL:
Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
2 raja 1 m. (g. %{pacA7di}) = %{rajas} , dust (cf. %{nI-} , %{vi-r-
}) ; the pollen of flowers , Prasan3ga7bh. ; the menstrual excretion
(also n.) L. ; emotion , affection L.: the quality of passion Un2.
iv , 216 Sch. ; N. of one of Skanda's attendants MBh. ; of a king
(son of Viraja) VP.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another > reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > > > that. > > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing > the > > > Holy > > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't > exactly > > > stick > > > > > around. I > > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, > to > > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls > who > > > are > > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates > and > > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > > > world. > > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > > kindest > > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live > in > > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown > yet > > and your special costume? > > What frightens me most is people who think they now reality. > Particularily when "common sense" is used in the same breath. > Their "common sense" brings them nowhere. They are dangerous because > their world is small, limited and they are unfortunately, for the > time being, the majority in all cultures. So fantasy helps you, how?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
"There are no statistics" is not a statement a careful student or observer would make. He or she would say instead, "I am aware of no statistics." As it happens, there are numerous studies on attention span, including cross cultural studies. To judge my statement on attention span a prejudice is itself prejudicial. "Prejudice" means "pre-judgment." You cannot know if I am making a pre-judgment until you ask what my judgment is based on. Is it based on merely informal observation? Hearsay? Ethnographic studies? Whether a short attention span is a good thing or a bad thing depends on a number of different variables. As I have already indicated, it can be a very good thing. Letting go of the past is a necessary component in any kind of creativity. And, presumably, we wouldn't want the whole planet populated by a bunch of stodgy nineteenth century German scholars. I'm not qualified to judge if there is (or is not) a genetic component predating the present age that would make for a relatively shorter attention span among Americans. That consistent behavior over a large enough population will create a genetic predisposition, however, seems a solid enough hypothesis. TV certainly doesn't foster a long attention span, and neither does an educational system that is largely based on objective tests. nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:49 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > > wrote: > > > > > > The statement about attention span was a general statement based on > > stats. Statistics predict tendencies in systems---never individuals. > > That Americans have a short attention span is something the rest of > > the world kind of knows about us---my guess is that this has something > > to do with the fact that we watch more TV than anyone else. Kids in > > other countries tend not to have attention deficit disorder to the > > extent our do. But that can't be the only reason.> > > > > There are no such statistics, this is just prejudice and ethno- centric > > snobbery. I have lived in other countries and people's attention > > spans cannot be summed up by country. With your deep knowledge of > > where this leads I am surprised that you would embrace a negative > > stereotype about a certain culture's cognitive abilities. You are > > buying into a perspective that other countries use to take shots at > > the US. "Well they may be the richest country in the world but they > > have short attention spans." > > > I actually had heard this, it was about 10-15 years ago from > professionals in that field. In fact, one of the theories as to why > they were so high in America was partially genetic, as the tendency > to want to leave another country (i.e. Europe) to go to another > country may stem from ADHD -- so that people who settled here have a > higher percentage of attention deficit via the type of people who > tend to want to move to a young, wild country. In any event, that > what was being bandied about back then. So basically the early > settlers here included a high percentage of ADHD people and we now > pay the genetic price for that today. > > But it was just a theory. Benjamin Creme mentions something like that in describing the Rays of the USA. But for him it is a posivtive tendency of exploration now being materialized in the american dream of exploring more and more of the universe finding new "frontiers". http://www.shareintl.org Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Is Oprah's scandal-ridden school the TM one?
http://tinyurl.com/2zlmhp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > > that. > > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the > > Holy > > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly > > stick > > > > around. I > > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, to > > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls who > > are > > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates and > > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > > world. > > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > > kindest > > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live in > > your dreadful "objective reality." > > > Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in > fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown yet > and your special costume? What frightens me most is people who think they now reality. Particularily when "common sense" is used in the same breath. Their "common sense" brings them nowhere. They are dangerous because their world is small, limited and they are unfortunately, for the time being, the majority in all cultures.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
Nablusoss1008, would you mind giving a little bit more of your backstory? You've mentioned having being on Purusha for a long period, but have worked as a freelance photographer for while now, is that correct? And I'm curious as to how much continued contact you have with other individuals either still on Purusha or now off doing other things, as well as how close your association is with the TMO. Part of the reason I'm asking is to understand how you merge your work and association with the world at large with your practice or sadhana. I'm assuming that you do some version of a long meditation program but maybe that's been pared down to something more manageable to accomodate work schedules, although my assumptions may all be incorrect. I'm not asking for any negative reason or purpose but merely to find out more about how you conduct your life. If you'd prefer not to discuss it, that's fine, too. Thanks. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > wrote: > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > that. > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the > Holy > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly > stick > > > around. I > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, to > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls who > are > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates and > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > world. > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > kindest > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live in > your dreadful "objective reality." >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > wrote: > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from > that. > > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the > Holy > > > > Tradition. > > > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly > stick > > > around. I > > > > must need a checking. > > > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, to > > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls who > are > > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates and > > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend > world. > > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the > kindest > > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. > > Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live in > your dreadful "objective reality." Yes, reality seems to frighten people who've heavily invested in fantasy and accepted it in lieu of. Have you received your crown yet and your special costume?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greatness of the Rudram
Rudram is indeed one of the great Vedic mantras. I have posted a video of it being chanted by a pundit from the Kanchipuram Shankaracharya Mutt. You can find it at the bottom of the opening page at puja.net. There is also a podcast about the meaning of Rudram in the podcast section a couple episodes ago. Ben --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.tinyurl.com/2mr28c > > > > SRI RUDRAM & CHAMAKAM > > > Sri Rudram-Chamakam occupies a very important place in Vedic > literature and in the practice of Vedic Religion. It is the heart of > Krishna Yajurveda and is treasured in the centre of Taittiriya > Samhita. Sri Sivapanchakshari Mantram is enshrined in it. Sri Rudram > is known as Rudropanishad. Though it forms part of Karma Kanda, it > ranks at par with the Upanishads of the Jnana Kanda. And as it is > seen in all the 101 Shakhas of the Yajurveda, it is > called 'Satarudriyam'. > > Among the Vidyas, the Vedas are supreme; in the Vedas the Rudra > Ekadasi is supreme; in the Rudram the Panchakshari > Mantra 'NAMASIVAYA' is supreme; in the Mantra the two letters 'SIVA' > is supreme. As by pouring water at the root of a tree, all its > branches are nourished, so also by pleasing Rudra through Rudra Japa, > all the Devas are pleased. This is the best atonement (Prayaschittam) > for all sins and the foremost 'Sadhana' for attainment of cherished > desires. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from that. > > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the Holy > > > Tradition. > > > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly stick > > around. I > > > must need a checking. > > > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. > > > In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, to > follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls who are > looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates and > titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend world. > Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. > > You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the kindest > word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'. Fine, that's all right with me. As long as I do not have to live in your dreadful "objective reality."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from that. > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the Holy > > Tradition. > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly stick > around. I > > must need a checking. > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. In my view, apart from the actual TM and perhaps the Siddhis, to follow Maharishi at this point is for feeble or confused souls who are looking for guidance and maybe special hats and certificates and titles that have importance in Maharishi's most recent pretend world. Common sense and objective reality have little to do with it. You appear to be a dear and loyal fellow, nablussos, and the kindest word I can think of at the moment is 'naive'.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:51 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Do any of you former MIU guys remember the tape of Larry Domash presiding over a MERU graduation ceremony? He was wearing a huge floppy hat, something very traditional in Europe, but not the US. I remember that everyone was laughing so hard watching it, it must have been a forest academy. The shape of things to come. Yeah. We first saw that at the big course in Amherst the summer before everyone came to MIU. People laughed so hard throughout Domash’s talk that you couldn’t hear a word he said. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do any of you former MIU guys remember the tape of > Larry Domash presiding over a MERU graduation > ceremony? He was wearing a huge floppy hat, something > very traditional in Europe, but not the US. I remember > that everyone was laughing so hard watching it, it > must have been a forest academy. The shape of things > to come. I remember it well. Larry's gayest moment! Right out of Ringling Bros. he just needed the big floppy feet to go along with it! > > > --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > gotta say that you both sound like a couple of > > pussies-- I honestly > > > would not be able to do what those guys do-- not > > that I want to, but > > > I really don't have the balls to dress up like > > that and buy into > > > that reality so deeply and with such commitment > > and dedication. I > > > guess that makes me a pussy too...and while your > > at it, pass me a > > > shot of tequila, the good stuff, please. > > > > > > > Both Peter and I did buy into that reality so deeply > > and with such > > commitment and dedication at one time Jim. Then we > > caught a clue. > > > > Looking like a douchebag is your idea of manliness? > > It doesn't take > > balls it takes self-delusion to be a Raja. If they > > are your heroes > > then I think you will be drinking alone. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, wouldn't it be fun to get a few beers > > in 'em > > > > > and then ask, "What the f*ck, dude, just what > > the > > > > > f*ck?" > > > > > > > > Or we could just ditch the stiffs and find a > > joint with a couple of > > > > poles enthusiastically graced by America's > > finest. I think we both > > > > already know too much about the pompous > > bullshittery going on under > > > > those golden space caps. I would much rather > > spend some time in > > > the > > > > Champagne room with a chick with a luxury car's > > name and a fist > > > full > > > > of 20s! > > > > > > > > But back to your idea, I imagine we would have > > to get them into a > > > few > > > > rounds of shots before they would look us in the > > eye and > > > admit, "Yeah > > > > man, I'm sorry, I just got carried away with > > myself and I now look > > > > like a total tool!" > > > > > > > gotta say that you both sound like a couple of > > pussies-- I honestly > > > would not be able to do what those guys do-- not > > that I want to, but > > > I really don't have the balls to dress up like > > that and buy into > > > that reality so deeply and with such commitment > > and dedication. I > > > guess that makes me a pussy too...and while your > > at it, pass me a > > > shot of tequila, the good stuff, please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:45 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from that. > > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the Holy > > Tradition. > > > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly stick > around. I > > must need a checking. > > To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. Sometimes even a checking > does not work ;-) > > Maybe the Wizard of Oz could give me courage. Get a hug.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do any of you former MIU guys remember the tape of > Larry Domash presiding over a MERU graduation > ceremony? He was wearing a huge floppy hat, something > very traditional in Europe, but not the US. I remember > that everyone was laughing so hard watching it, it > must have been a forest academy. The shape of things > to come. What about the hats used for graduation from college in the USA ? Looks pretty weird to me...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from that. > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the Holy > Tradition. > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly stick around. I > must need a checking. To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. Sometimes even a checking does not work ;-) Maybe the Wizard of Oz could give me courage. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:49 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > > wrote: > > > > > > The statement about attention span was a general statement based on > > stats. Statistics predict tendencies in systems---never individuals. > > That Americans have a short attention span is something the rest of > > the world kind of knows about us---my guess is that this has something > > to do with the fact that we watch more TV than anyone else. Kids in > > other countries tend not to have attention deficit disorder to the > > extent our do. But that can't be the only reason.> > > > > There are no such statistics, this is just prejudice and ethno- centric > > snobbery. I have lived in other countries and people's attention > > spans cannot be summed up by country. With your deep knowledge of > > where this leads I am surprised that you would embrace a negative > > stereotype about a certain culture's cognitive abilities. You are > > buying into a perspective that other countries use to take shots at > > the US. "Well they may be the richest country in the world but they > > have short attention spans." > > > I actually had heard this, it was about 10-15 years ago from > professionals in that field. In fact, one of the theories as to why > they were so high in America was partially genetic, as the tendency > to want to leave another country (i.e. Europe) to go to another > country may stem from ADHD -- so that people who settled here have a > higher percentage of attention deficit via the type of people who > tend to want to move to a young, wild country. In any event, that > what was being bandied about back then. So basically the early > settlers here included a high percentage of ADHD people and we now > pay the genetic price for that today. > > But it was just a theory. Benjamin Creme mentions something like that in describing the Rays of the USA. But for him it is a posivtive tendency of exploration now being materialized in the american dream of exploring more and more of the universe finding new "frontiers". http://www.shareintl.org
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Do any of you former MIU guys remember the tape of Larry Domash presiding over a MERU graduation ceremony? He was wearing a huge floppy hat, something very traditional in Europe, but not the US. I remember that everyone was laughing so hard watching it, it must have been a forest academy. The shape of things to come. --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > gotta say that you both sound like a couple of > pussies-- I honestly > > would not be able to do what those guys do-- not > that I want to, but > > I really don't have the balls to dress up like > that and buy into > > that reality so deeply and with such commitment > and dedication. I > > guess that makes me a pussy too...and while your > at it, pass me a > > shot of tequila, the good stuff, please. > > > > Both Peter and I did buy into that reality so deeply > and with such > commitment and dedication at one time Jim. Then we > caught a clue. > > Looking like a douchebag is your idea of manliness? > It doesn't take > balls it takes self-delusion to be a Raja. If they > are your heroes > then I think you will be drinking alone. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Curtis, wouldn't it be fun to get a few beers > in 'em > > > > and then ask, "What the f*ck, dude, just what > the > > > > f*ck?" > > > > > > Or we could just ditch the stiffs and find a > joint with a couple of > > > poles enthusiastically graced by America's > finest. I think we both > > > already know too much about the pompous > bullshittery going on under > > > those golden space caps. I would much rather > spend some time in > > the > > > Champagne room with a chick with a luxury car's > name and a fist > > full > > > of 20s! > > > > > > But back to your idea, I imagine we would have > to get them into a > > few > > > rounds of shots before they would look us in the > eye and > > admit, "Yeah > > > man, I'm sorry, I just got carried away with > myself and I now look > > > like a total tool!" > > > > > gotta say that you both sound like a couple of > pussies-- I honestly > > would not be able to do what those guys do-- not > that I want to, but > > I really don't have the balls to dress up like > that and buy into > > that reality so deeply and with such commitment > and dedication. I > > guess that makes me a pussy too...and while your > at it, pass me a > > shot of tequila, the good stuff, please. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > > became That. > > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > > Master. He > > > > is the > > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his > > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > > Maharishi > > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. > > We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from Guru Dev.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? > > > > Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from that. > Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the Holy > Tradition. > > I've taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn't exactly stick around. I > must need a checking. To follow Maharishi is not for cowards. Sometimes even a checking does not work ;-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:14 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today > > > > > It would be Richard Ross-Potaloff, who dropped the > > Potaloff a while back, > > just as Tony Abou-Nader dropped the Abou (and the > > Tony). > > Ha! On Governor training his nickname was "Poodles" > Like most Rajas, on a personal level, these are all > good guys, not pompous or arrogant at all. > > Yeah, but pomposity and arrogance are being > programmed into them. Bevan > Morris used to be a pretty down-to-earth guy. Paul > Potter couldnt have been > sweeter or more innocent. Benny Feldman used to be > cheerful, easygoing, etc. Paul Potter is a great guy as is Kingsley Brooks. But Bevanhm. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - > Release Date: 10/30/2007 > 6:26 PM > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Flaming Evil not allowed here? (9-11 -- The Inside Job )
On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:49 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The statement about attention span was a general statement based on stats. Statistics predict tendencies in systems---never individuals. That Americans have a short attention span is something the rest of the world kind of knows about us---my guess is that this has something to do with the fact that we watch more TV than anyone else. Kids in other countries tend not to have attention deficit disorder to the extent our do. But that can't be the only reason.> There are no such statistics, this is just prejudice and ethno-centric snobbery. I have lived in other countries and people's attention spans cannot be summed up by country. With your deep knowledge of where this leads I am surprised that you would embrace a negative stereotype about a certain culture's cognitive abilities. You are buying into a perspective that other countries use to take shots at the US. "Well they may be the richest country in the world but they have short attention spans." I actually had heard this, it was about 10-15 years ago from professionals in that field. In fact, one of the theories as to why they were so high in America was partially genetic, as the tendency to want to leave another country (i.e. Europe) to go to another country may stem from ADHD -- so that people who settled here have a higher percentage of attention deficit via the type of people who tend to want to move to a young, wild country. In any event, that what was being bandied about back then. So basically the early settlers here included a high percentage of ADHD people and we now pay the genetic price for that today. But it was just a theory.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from that. Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the Holy Tradition. I’ve taught 1000+, and I know the lift, but I didn’t exactly stick around. I must need a checking. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w> > Yeah, being a "raja" sure explains why someone would act like a > complete asshole--you got that right, Rick. > > Sal I'm not a Raja, will never be. But shake your hand ? No thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > wrote: > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > became That. > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > Master. He > > > is the > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > Maharishi > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The big "if" is whether scandalous stuff will see the light of day after MMY > passes. It may stay concealed, as it has for so many years. It would take > concerted effort to reveal a lot of it, or a few brave whistle- blowers. A clear case for the famous rumormonger Rick Archer. He'll dig something up for sure, even though he cannot proove a thing :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on the Siddhi Powers
The short explanation of this which will be easily understood is enlightened are not performing Sidhis because there is no one to be the performer, no desires for such things but they do occur around the enlightened, it just happens A performer of sidhis is not enlightened --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ...Few people have a siddhi, but by their greediness for siddhi a good > many people are caused to get cheated. Our wish then is to be wary. We > are like the village guard who calls "Jagtay raho!" (Be awake!)... > > > There are five kinds of siddhis:- > "janmaushhadhimantratapaH samaadhijaaH siddhayaH." > [yogadarshanam (Patanjalis Yoga Sutras) ch4 v1] > > 'siddhis are attained by birth, drug, mantra, tapa & samadhi.' > > 1 > Truly, it occurs that someone is born as a siddha (one who has > supernatural powers). Must have worshipped in a former life, but not > so much as to have merged with Bhagavan (God), so in this way, by > previous worship people actually have miraculous siddhis - in this > manner Jada Bharata was a siddha from birth, who did not have to hear, > learn and memorise in order to understand. > > 2 > Various kinds of sidhhis are come to be seen by means of drugs. When I > was staying in the jungles, on several occasions Kola and Bhil (tribal > peoples) came and informed me of the properties of drugs. One time a > Bhil brought one such which would make a tiger senseless who saw only > a little of it from afar. By means of drugs a human being can live > several hundred years. By means of drugs many siddhis can come. So > there are also drugs that give the strength to fly for the one who > puts it in the mouth. > > 3 > From a mantra come siddhis. Once the deity of the mantra becomes > favourable it will act according to its ability. The proper form of > siddhis is of mantras. Common people receive siddhi from yakShini, > karNa-pishachi and bhuta-preta (demi-gods, demons and ghosts) or > trifling deities - and dark spirits of people inform of the past and > present or do amazing feats and [the medium] pretends to be a siddha > yogi. This is how straightforward simple people are deceived. > > 4 > siddhi occurs by doing tapa (austerity). Maintaining brahmacharya > (celibacy), fasting and enduring ones sadhana in order to gain God are > performances of tapa which are satvik (pure). From this [tapa] peace > and satisfaction grow. tapa aimed at dishonouring, killing, > bewitching, enchanting etc. are rajasik and tamasik tapa. By this > there will be neither peace nor satisfaction, the intrinsic enemies of > unrest and anxiety increase bringing about the downfall of the sadhaka. > > 5 > From samadhi come siddhis. But, these siddhis go to the sadhaka who > has gained the supreme situation or jivanmukti. With these siddhis the > duty is to be steady and if a good deal of work is not undertaken then > the steadfastness is gone. > > The significance of this is that if there are miracles seen in any > person this is not the true measure of a yogi. Seriously there are > yogis in whom miracles occur and they do not perform miracles for > their wealth or reputation. They only want for happiness in the world, > tenderness and compassion. Understand that folk should be saved from > misunderstandings about these siddhas. > > Do bhajans (hymns) to Bhagavan (God). You should become a ruler to the > siddhis then siddhis will wander behind you. > > How to be made a ruler? Not to belong to the world of imagination. > Until such time as your world is of a different kind, not longing for > a son, for wealth, for a wife, for prestige and reputation, until then > you will really be bereft of strength. The proverb is that "khuda" is > scared of the beggar (Pharsi / Urdu word "khuda" = God). > > Withdrawing from the fancies of the world, grow in desire of Paramatma > (the Supreme Self, God) then a multitude of siddhis will wander behind > you, [but] no siddhi will occur when you seek them. > > The way that one should possess is that where ones own honour is not > sacrificed. When you can be in the steady presence of the almighty > Paramatma, then it would be a calamity if you were to go stumbling > behind, here and there, following trifling siddhis. Be sure of this > the siddhis behind you will run away when they see you. If you do not > wish for siddhis, if you obstinately make a boundary with the siddhis > that obstuct your spiritual progress, then siddhis will stay surround you. > > The way to keep siddhis under control is by remaining bowed to > Bhagavan (the Supreme Being) and don't wish for the siddhis - this is > the way to freedom. > > If the siddhis wander behind you then they will be subjected. At that > time then the siddhis cannot be the swami (master), say they will > really be only slaves. Therefore don't be a slave to the siddhis, > become a master of the siddhis. Becoming a slave to Bhagavan you will > bec
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:38 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today What I get from this is that some can take MMY's teaching and absorb it in simplicity, while others are destined to get caught in the numerous traps that the depth of the teaching holds. Doesn't mean that the trapped ones are doing anything wrong or have been misguided-- they just may not find their liberation in this lifetime is all. No tragedy there at all. Might be Jim, but keep in mind that Maharishi explicitly instructs the rajas, as he did the 108’s before them, not to fraternize with the common folk. He believes that people will respect and look up to them more that way. “Familiarity breeds contempt.” No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Around here idiots influenced by some kind of weird american pop- > fashion and are running around with woollen hats in the summer. But > in contrast to Tony Nader they have nothing intelligent to say." > > > Thats where they hide their weed man. No, no thats the jamaicans or something. These wear tight small wollen caps even when it's 3o celisius or inside, in restaurants. Some hip hop thing perhaps. Looks stranger than Raja crowns IMO. But the fools consider themselves cool.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > wrote: > > > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > > became That. > > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the > Master. He > > > is the > > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his > feet.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > My experience is that Maharishi is nothing like Guru Dev *at > all* . At > > one time he may have been. But no longer. > > > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, > Maharishi > > has "taken a left turn away from God." > > > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. I see you ignored the points made and what Guru Dev actually *did* say. I write to another religious forum where 'true believers' perform your similar kind of tap dance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of TurquoiseB > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:32 AM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why become a Raja? Another > > reason? > > > > > > > > Some of you actually *know* some of these > > Rajas. What do you think? Will they stick > > around after Maharishi is gone? Is their > > allegiance to him personally, or to the > > movement? I'm honestly curious. > > > > I think most of them will stick around. After 5-10 > > years, you may see 25% > > attrition, but most of them are probably lifers. Agreed. Anyone who has taught knows the lift one gets from that. Totally independent of Maharishi because one is invocing the Holy Tradition.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:15 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Many of them are householders, and some have kids, etc., but that doesn’t disprove your point, because as rajas, Maharishi instructs to hold themselves aloof from normal people. He gave the 108’s the same instruction. About a year ago I ran into Rogers Badgett (a Raja) in the bank. He was standing about 10 feet away from the teller’s window while his assistant did his banking. My wife was doing our banking and I had time to kill, so I said hi and tried to strike up a conversation. He was strangely distant, so I gave up and read a magazine. After I left the bank I remembered that he was a raja, and realized why he had behaved that way. Yeah, being a "raja" sure explains why someone would act like a complete asshole--you got that right, Rick. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/31/07 6:16:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > About a year ago I ran into Rogers Badgett (a Raja) in the bank. He was > standing about 10 feet away from the tellerâs window while his assistant did his > banking. My wife was doing our banking and I had time to kill, so I said hi > and tried to strike up a conversation. He was strangely distant, so I gave up > and read a magazine. After I left the bank I remembered that he was a raja, > and realized why he had behaved that way. > > > This may or not be normal behavior for *rajas* but I have seen it in many > True Believers over the years. Holier than thou, won't shake hands in greetings, > "oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that." etc, we've all seen this kind of stuff > over the decades. Mind controlling and controlled social misfits. I think it > comes from being absorbed too much in one's self, not Self. M used to > prescribe a few minutes of TM, balanced by 10 to 12 hours of dynamic activity. A > few minutes in the bank prepares one to spend the whole day in the > market,interacting with society, not being aloof from it. > What I get from this is that some can take MMY's teaching and absorb it in simplicity, while others are destined to get caught in the numerous traps that the depth of the teaching holds. Doesn't mean that the trapped ones are doing anything wrong or have been misguided-- they just may not find their liberation in this lifetime is all. No tragedy there at all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > > > Stories about Maharishi > > > [snip] > > > >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > > became That. > > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He > > is the > > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.'" > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > My experience is that Maharishi is nothing like Guru Dev *at all* . At > one time he may have been. But no longer. > > It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi > has "taken a left turn away from God." > Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
In a message dated 10/31/07 6:16:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About a year ago I ran into Rogers Badgett (a Raja) in the bank. He was standing about 10 feet away from the teller’s window while his assistant did his banking. My wife was doing our banking and I had time to kill, so I said hi and tried to strike up a conversation. He was strangely distant, so I gave up and read a magazine. After I left the bank I remembered that he was a raja, and realized why he had behaved that way. This may or not be normal behavior for *rajas* but I have seen it in many True Believers over the years. Holier than thou, won't shake hands in greetings, "oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that." etc, we've all seen this kind of stuff over the decades. Mind controlling and controlled social misfits. I think it comes from being absorbed too much in one's self, not Self. M used to prescribe a few minutes of TM, balanced by 10 to 12 hours of dynamic activity. A few minutes in the bank prepares one to spend the whole day in the market,interacting with society, not being aloof from it. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > Someone sent me these: > > > > Stories about Maharishi [snip] >> Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and > became That. > > Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He > is the > > Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.'" > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev My experience is that Maharishi is nothing like Guru Dev *at all* . At one time he may have been. But no longer. It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has "taken a left turn away from God." Maharishi's phony bullshit 'rajas' trip with king Tony and all the trappings and clap-trap is a ghastly travesty in my eyes. The closest Guru Dev came to such nonsense was the traditional pomp and ceremony of the common people who loved him; the religion and tradition being participated in by the people *themselves*, the people Guru Dev served: ~~~Acharya Shri [Guru Dev] was as much at home with men of reason as he was with men of blind faith, who deified him. He participated whole-heartedly in the pageantry loved by the common people. Invariably he would be taken out in a procession passing through the main thoroughfares of the city. Arches would be constructed. The route would be decorated with flags and flowers. Almost everyone would turn out to have his darshan. Many devotees with big bowls containing sandalwood paste wqould move along applying it on the river of reverent foreheads on either side. He would inch along sitting in a decorated chariot that stopped every few yards. People would come forward and garland him and worship him in the traditional style. There would be a continuous shower of petals from the precariously packed roofs. and balconies of houses lining the route. What did he think of all of this 'tamasha'? He made it clear many a time, as he did with the citizens of Kanpur, "there was no need really to give me the sort of lavish welcome that you have just done. Yet Indian culture requires that the Guru should be given the highest respect and welcome, and therefore I do not object to all this fanfare and accept it. But there is yet a bigger welcome that all of you can give me. I have stepped down from the Himalayas and therefore deserve perhaps a Himalayan welcome. That welcome you can give me by giving me your most valuable possession. What is your most valuable possession? Welcome me with that. My experience is that human beings value their vices above everything else. They are not prepared to part with them at any cost. Expense one does not consider. One is even prepared to suffer insult and injury for the satisfaction of one's most prized vice. So make offerings of those vices to me.. That is my service. That is my worship. That offering I willingly accept. In Kanpur there is a custom to make offerings in bags.. But I am not one to be satisfied with offerings of rupees and paisas, which are like dist and pebbles to me. Offer to me bagfuls of your vices.~~~ ~~ From a biography of Guru Dev, 'Strange Facts About A Great Saint', by Dr. Raj R. P. Vama (pages 67-68)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? Thanks for your feedback, Peter (and Rick and Hugo). I honestly didn't know, never having met any of these particular guys, and was curious. Just as a followup, should what many of us suspect will happen happen (that is, major money scandals emerging after Maharishi's death in which it is discovered that most of the TMO's wealth has been embezzled by his relatives in India and is perman- ently missing), do you think they'd stick around for the fallout from *that*, too? Again, just curious. I'm wondering who is going to be around holding the bag after they discover the bag is empty. Should this happen, will the Rajas stick around and try to put a good face on things, or will they beat feet? In your opinions, of course. The big “if” is whether scandalous stuff will see the light of day after MMY passes. It may stay concealed, as it has for so many years. It would take concerted effort to reveal a lot of it, or a few brave whistle-blowers. If it is revealed, I imagine a lot of good folks will distance themselves from the TMO, or affiliate with a cleaner, pared-down version of it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM
