[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Judy,
> > > You've finally convinced me...Barry has never been right,
> > > never will be, and can only spout lies, and not even very
> > > good ones at that.
> > 
> > On the other hand, what Barry seems to be
> > very good at is playing with his wind-up
> > toys. A few generalized comments, and the
> > toys go crazy and dance around doing exactly 
> > what he wanted them to.
> 
> When you pull wings off flies, do they run i funny
> circles too?
> 
> > He's especially good at making the wind-up
> > toys go crazy trying to get him to respond
> > to their dances, and then never responding. 
> > Winds them up even more.
> 
> No human is ever harmed by pulling wings off flies,
> eh?
> 
> > > Therefore, I hereby decree that Barry Wright be known
> > > from this day on as Barry Wrong.  Case closed.
> > 
> > I can live with that. You can get just as
> > many laughs in bars introducing yourself
> > to women as Mr. Wrong.
> 
> Women often have a remarkable capacity for self-destruction, just
> as men do.

Dude, YOU are the person who was making 
excuses for the TMO having illegal policies,
not me. All I did was set a couple of TBs
up to do so, knowing they would be unable
*not* to.

The assumption that the TMO is correct came
first. The excuses for *why* they are correct
came later. *That* is the nature of True
Believerism IMO. *That* is what you tend to 
do, on a regular basis. *That* is all I 
wanted to point out.

If your wings are feeling a little sore, I
would suggest that that's because you grew
the TB wings in the first place.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditator Done Good

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ya betcha, pilgrim.  The TMO should get him as the Rajah of 
> Brazil. He would be an efficient executive or administrator 
> for the movement.

The conditions of miners in Brazil is known and
lamented world-wide. They are considered some of
the most oppressed people on earth. And that's
not only OK for you but a sign of someone "doing
good" and displaying "cosmic efficiency," yes?

Wouldn't it have been MORE cosmically efficient
to pay them nothing instead of pennies (while 
making millions) and make them work the mines as
slaves? What would Krishna have done?  :-)

My point is that you seem to admire those who 
make money, and don't care a whit about how they
make it. Very TM of you.


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > < in my Willytex voice >
> > 
> > So you're saying that he made his money by being 
> > a mine owner in Brazil?
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGfXaqnvhfA
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > To All:
> > > 
> > > Here's an article from the NY Times about a meditator who found 
> > > cosmic efficiency in Brazil:
> > > 
> > > Saturday Profile
> > > For Wealthy Brazilian, Money From Ore and Might From the Cosmos 
> > >  
> > > By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
> > > Published: August 2, 2008
> > > SALVADOR, Brazil 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Joao Pina for The New York Times
> > > "I need to discover new reserves that can generate more wealth, 
> more 
> > > employment." -- João Carlos Cavalcanti 
> > > 
> > > "I AM connected to the divine, to these forces here," João Carlos 
> > > Cavalcanti, the Brazilian mining magnate, said as he swept an arm 
> out 
> > > across the lily pad-covered lake behind his $15 million mansion.
> > > 
> > > A gentle breeze rustled through his thick white beard. Mr. 
> Cavalcanti 
> > > stood on the pier and closed his eyes for a moment. A uniformed 
> > > servant, one of a staff of 15, hovered nearby with hors d'oeuvres 
> and 
> > > nonalcoholic drinks. She knew better than to disturb a man who 
> > > meditates for three hours a day and constantly refers to himself 
> as 
> > > a "mystical" person who draws strength from "the cosmos" — when 
> he is 
> > > not collecting expensive cars, fine paintings and other 
> playthings. 
> > > 
> > > Minutes later, as Mr. Cavalcanti made his way back up the hill, 
> > > through his Thai- and Indonesian-inspired gardens with Buddhist 
> > > statues, his cellphone rang. Another banker was calling, this one 
> > > from Canada, eager to do business with one of Brazil's newest 
> > > billionaires. Mr. Cavalcanti explained that he had big plans of 
> his 
> > > own, to form a "world mining bank" with Merrill Lynch and raise 
> > > capital for exploration projects around the world.
> > > 
> > > This is the life of the nouveau billionaire in Brazil — the life 
> that 
> > > Mr. Cavalcanti said he dreamed of from the age of 9 and from the 
> time 
> > > he immersed himself in biographies of Henry Ford, John Jacob 
> Astor 
> > > and John D. Rockefeller.
> > > 
> > > A geologist by training, Mr. Cavalcanti — who goes by J.C. — 
> applied 
> > > his knowledge and considerable gumption to discovering huge 
> reserves 
> > > of iron ore and other minerals. Today he pegs his net worth at 
> $1.2 
> > > billion, placing him among the 20 richest men in Brazil. Before 
> this 
> > > year is out, he vows to have $1 billion in liquid investments, to 
> go 
> > > with his 39 cars, 10 homes and two airplanes.
> > > 
> > > Mr. Cavalcanti, 59, is a charter member of an emerging mega-rich 
> > > group in Brazil, whose flourishing economy minted the third most 
> > > millionaires last year, after India and China, according to a 
> recent 
> > > study by Merrill Lynch and Capgemini, the big consulting firm. He 
> is 
> > > among the newly wealthy benefiting from Brazil's boom in 
> commodities 
> > > like soybeans and iron ore. 
> > > 
> > > The group includes Eike Batista, a mining and oil exploration 
> > > entrepreneur who is worth $6.6 billion, according to Forbes. Mr. 
> > > Batista, a college dropout and former champion powerboat racer, 
> has 
> > > boasted that he will become Brazil's richest man by next year. 
> > > 
> > > Today, the list of Brazil's billionaires still has its bankers 
> and 
> > > industrialists. Indeed an industrialist, Antônio Ermírio de 
> Moraes, 
> > > chairman of Votorantim Group, which produces metals, papers, 
> cement 
> > > and electricity, is reckoned the wealthiest person in South 
> America, 
> > > with a fortune of some $10 billion. Just behind him is a 
> financier, 
> > > Joseph Safra, who runs Safra Group, a banking and investment 
> > > conglomerate. Forbes pegs Mr. Safra at $8.8 billion.
> > > 
> > > Mr. Cavalcanti, the son of a railroad-track laborer, seemed 
> highly 
> > > unlikely to become a billionaire. He spent his early years in a 
> > > rustic two-bedroom 

[FairfieldLife] The word 'praaNaayaama' and its possible synonyms...

2008-08-07 Thread cardemaister

... in some upanishads with the word 'yoga' in their title.

1. yogakuNDalyupaniSat (yoga-kuNDali-upaniSat):

praaNa-rodha?

tatsaadhane dvayaM mukhyaM sarasvatyaastu chaalanam .
praaNarodhamathaabhyaasaadRjvii kuNDalinii bhavet .. 8..

tatsaadhane dvayaM mukhyaM sarasvatyaastu chaalanam .
?praaNa-rodham atha abhyaasaat?; Rjvii kuNDalinii bhavet.. 8..

praaNarodhamathedaaniiM pravakshyaami samaasataH .

?praaNarodham atha idaaniiM? pravakshyaami samaasataH .

2.  yogachuuDaamaNyupaniSat ( yoga-chuuDaamaNy-upaniSat)

- praaNa-saMrodha?

aasanaM praaNasaMrodhaH pratyaahaarashcha dhaaraNaa .
dhyaanaM samaadhiretaani yogaan.gaani bhavanti SaT .. 2..

- praaNaayama? (a verbal clause on the second line
is 'praanaan *nirodhayet*': a yogi should "nirodha"
praaNas [I think 'praaNaan' is accusative {engl.
objective} plural...])

alpakaalabhayaadbrahmanpraaNaayamaparo bhavet
yogino munashchaiva tataH praaNaannirodhayet .. 92..

- also 'praaNaayaama' (in locative singular with
the ending '-e'):

dhyaatvaa chandramasaM bimbaM praaNaayaame sukhii bhavet.. 96..

And the same in nominative singular (praaNaayaamaH):

puuraka.n dvaadasha.n kuryaatkumbhaka.n shhoDashaM bhavet.h .
rechaka.n dasha cho~NkaaraH praaNaayaamaH sa uchyate .. 103.

That upanishad seems to ignore yama and niyama, thus
having "only" six an.gas (ang-gas).






[FairfieldLife] Finnish Bush?

2008-08-07 Thread cardemaister

Puska = Bush (Dr. Pekka Puska)

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/30/6/1496

Letter to the Editor
Editors' Response—exporting failure
Shah Ebrahim and George Davey Smith

Our editorial described the limited effects of comprehensive
cardiovascular disease prevention programmes, widely evaluated in the
developed world, and questioned their relevance to developing countries.1

Dr Puska complains that we have not read the findings of the North
Karelia study carefully enough. Interpretation of what is shown by the
North Karelia study depends on understanding the nature of the
intervention, the time frame over which changes were examined, and
whether one is primarily interested in `explaining' the changes
observed within North Karelia without reference to other studies
examining the same question. The intervention comprised five arms:
health education, screening, a hypertension programme,
`intensification of treatment' (secondary prevention), and
rehabilitation, and as such, was focused mainly on individuals rather
than the population at large.2 As shown in Table 1 of our editorial,
the reductions in risk factors were, in fact, very similar after 10
years intervention in the control and intervention communities.1 CHD
mortality trends over the period 1969 to 1995 show a greater decline
in North Karelia than the rest of the country, but the 95% confidence
intervals for the slopes overlap.3 An intriguing pattern of decline is
hidden in the overall trend. First, North Karelia experienced an
almost immediate and rapid decline, a rise and a fall in CHD mortality
(1971–1975). Second, rates of decline were significantly greater in
the country as a whole than in North Karelia (1976–1985). Finally,
death rates tended to approximate to each other (1986–1995). Such
trends do not provide unambiguous support for the hypothesis that the
intervention was effective.

---

Methinks the positive results might be much more
reliably explained by the intense activity, in the 80's, of Yffers
in Finland and elsewhere. Naah, not really... ;-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: The word 'praaNaayaama' and its possible synonyms...

2008-08-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> ... in some upanishads with the word 'yoga' in their title.
> 
> 1. yogakuNDalyupaniSat (yoga-kuNDali-upaniSat):
> 
> praaNa-rodha?
> 
> tatsaadhane dvayaM mukhyaM sarasvatyaastu chaalanam .
> praaNarodhamathaabhyaasaadRjvii kuNDalinii bhavet .. 8..
> 
> tatsaadhane dvayaM mukhyaM sarasvatyaastu chaalanam .
> ?praaNa-rodham atha abhyaasaat?; Rjvii kuNDalinii bhavet.. 8..
> 
> praaNarodhamathedaaniiM pravakshyaami samaasataH .
> 
> ?praaNarodham atha idaaniiM? pravakshyaami samaasataH .
> 
> 2.  yogachuuDaamaNyupaniSat ( yoga-chuuDaamaNy-upaniSat)
> 
> - praaNa-saMrodha?
> 
> aasanaM praaNasaMrodhaH pratyaahaarashcha dhaaraNaa .
> dhyaanaM samaadhiretaani yogaan.gaani bhavanti SaT .. 2..
> 
> - praaNaayama? (a verbal clause on the second line
> is 'praanaan *nirodhayet*': a yogi should "nirodha"
> praaNas [I think 'praaNaan' is accusative {engl.
> objective} plural...])
> 
> alpakaalabhayaadbrahmanpraaNaayamaparo bhavet
> yogino munashchaiva tataH praaNaannirodhayet .. 92..
> 
> - also 'praaNaayaama' (in locative singular with
> the ending '-e'):
> 
> dhyaatvaa chandramasaM bimbaM praaNaayaame sukhii bhavet.. 96..
> 
> And the same in nominative singular (praaNaayaamaH):
> 
> puuraka.n dvaadasha.n kuryaatkumbhaka.n shhoDashaM bhavet.h .
> rechaka.n dasha cho~NkaaraH praaNaayaamaH sa uchyate .. 103.
> 
> That upanishad seems to ignore yama and niyama, thus
> having "only" six an.gas (ang-gas).
>

3. yogatattvopaniSat (yoga-tattva-upaniSat):

- praaNa-saMyama

sa eva layayogaH syaaddhaThayogamataH shR^iNu .
yamashcha niyamashchaiva aasanaM praaNasa.nyamaH .. 24..
pratyaahaaro dhaaraNaa cha dhyaanaM bhruumadhyame harim.h .
samaadhiH samataavasthaa saashhTaa~Ngo yoga uchyate .. 25..

[Just for fun, I'll try to guess what the fvck that means:

That was laya-yoga (explained?). Now, listen (when I explain
to you what the heck is) haTha-yoga; yama and niyama and
aasana and *praaNasaMyama*, pratyaahara and dhaaraNaa and
dhyaana on /Shiva between the brows/?? (bhruu-madhyame
harim) (plus) samaadhi, "the sameness-condition"??, are called yoga of
eight limbs.]

- praaNaayaama

praaNaayaamaM tataH kuryaatpadmaasanagataH svayam.h 

(S/he should then perform praaNaayaama in padmaasana.)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress

2008-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Judy,
> > > > You've finally convinced me...Barry has never been right,
> > > > never will be, and can only spout lies, and not even very
> > > > good ones at that.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, what Barry seems to be
> > > very good at is playing with his wind-up
> > > toys. A few generalized comments, and the
> > > toys go crazy and dance around doing exactly 
> > > what he wanted them to.
> > 
> > When you pull wings off flies, do they run i funny
> > circles too?
> > 
> > > He's especially good at making the wind-up
> > > toys go crazy trying to get him to respond
> > > to their dances, and then never responding. 
> > > Winds them up even more.
> > 
> > No human is ever harmed by pulling wings off flies,
> > eh?
> > 
> > > > Therefore, I hereby decree that Barry Wright be known
> > > > from this day on as Barry Wrong.  Case closed.
> > > 
> > > I can live with that. You can get just as
> > > many laughs in bars introducing yourself
> > > to women as Mr. Wrong.
> > 
> > Women often have a remarkable capacity for self-destruction, just
> > as men do.
> 
> Dude, YOU are the person who was making 
> excuses for the TMO having illegal policies,
> not me. All I did was set a couple of TBs
> up to do so, knowing they would be unable
> *not* to.
> 
> The assumption that the TMO is correct came
> first. The excuses for *why* they are correct
> came later. *That* is the nature of True
> Believerism IMO. *That* is what you tend to 
> do, on a regular basis. *That* is all I 
> wanted to point out.
> 
> If your wings are feeling a little sore, I
> would suggest that that's because you grew
> the TB wings in the first place.
>

As one of the flies, I sincerely thank  you...


L





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress

2008-08-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dude, YOU are the person who was making 
> excuses for the TMO having illegal policies,
> not me.

Actually, of course, we don't know that the TMO's
policies are illegal; that's just Barry's 
assumption. The three cases Barry mentioned don't
even begin to show that, and he won't do any of
the work necessary to determine whether the laws
in question apply to the TMO's policies, because
all he was interested in doing was bashing the
TMO, Lawson, and me, not in making a legitimate
point.

For example, he can't cite the specific laws under
which the cases he mentioned were decided. He
doesn't even know if they were decided under state
or federal law. He doesn't know whether these laws
apply to a company's sales force. He also doesn't
know whether they apply to independent contractors,
which many TM teachers are. Independent contractors
are not covered by much of the law that applies to
salaried employees. He doesn't know whether the laws
in question apply to nonprofits, which the TMO is.

In other words, Barry doesn't know what he's talking
about, nor does he care.

 All I did was set a couple of TBs
> up to do so, knowing they would be unable
> *not* to.
> 
> The assumption that the TMO is correct came
> first. The excuses for *why* they are correct
> came later.

Nor does Barry know this, unless he's perfected
the mind-reading siddhi. Nor does that even
matter, if the "excuses" (he means "reasons") are
valid.

But that, again, isn't what Barry's interested in.
His purpose is merely to find something with which
to demonize anyone who defends the TMO on any basis:

 *That* is the nature of True
> Believerism IMO. *That* is what you tend to 
> do, on a regular basis.

Translation: Barry's assumption that Lawson and
I are True Believers came first; the excuses for
*why* we are True Believers came later.



> *That* is all I wanted to point out.

Barry can do all the pointing-out he wants, but
that doesn't mean his points have any value.
They rarely do, and certainly don't in this case.




[FairfieldLife] Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread uns_tressor
Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
effectively castrated.

Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
the various space time continuums, and control the
flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
providing further proof, if this were necessary.

Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
to your 8 year reign.
Uns.




[FairfieldLife] Quickies: why is it necessary...

2008-08-07 Thread cardemaister
... for PVTM to be able to result to the fourth (praaNaayaama)?

I think that from the TM point of view it's rather necessary
for basic TM to result to the fourth praaNaayaama, because,
it seems to me, that according to Patañjali, that is a conditio
sine qua non, or stuff, for the siddhis. 

Why is that? Because /dhaaraNaa/ is the first "stage" of /saMyama/
and, according to YS -- it seems to me -- the fourth (praaNaayaama)
makes /manas/ /yogya/ for /dhaaraNaa/:

dhaaraNaasu *ca* yogyataa manasaH (YS II 53).

yogya   mfn. (fr. %{yoga} and 1. %{yuj}) fit for the yoke Pa1n2. 5-1 ,
102 ; belonging to a partic. remedy S3a1rn3gS. ; useful , serviceable
, proper , fit or qualified for , able or equal to , capable of (gen.
loc. dat. inf. with act. or pass. sense , or comp.) Ka1tyS3r. MBh.
Ka1v. &c. ; perceptible Kap. ; ***fit for Yoga, proper for
religious meditation L***. ; m. a draught animal AV. S3Br. ; a
calculator of expedients W. ; the constellation Pushya L. ; (%{A4}) f.
preparation , contrivance RV. ; exercise , practice , (esp.) bodily
exercise , gymnastics , drill MBh. Ka1v. Sus3r. ; (pl.) the straps
with which horses are attached to the yoke of a carriage , traces (?)
RV. iii , 3 , 6 ; the earth L. ; N. of Bharan2i1 L. ; of the wife of
Su1rya L. ; n. (only L.) a vehicle or any machine ; a cake ; sandal ;
a kind of drug.

yogyatA f. suitableness , fitness , propriety , ability R. Katha1s.
&c. ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] n. %{-pUrvapakSa-rahasya} n. %{-rahasya} n.
%{-vAda} m. %{-vicAra} m. N. of wks.

It might also be "interesting", that /maandukyopaniSat/ calls
the fourth state /c[h]aturtha/ instead of, say, /turiiya/:

naantaHpraGYaM na bahishhpraGYaM nobhayataHpraGYaM na praGYAnaghanaM
na praGYaM naapraGYam.h | adR^ishhTamavyavahaaryamagraahyamalakshaNaM
achintyamavyapadeshyamekaatmapratyayasaaraM prapaJNchopashamaM
shaantaM shivamadvaitaM ***chaturthaM*** manyante sa aatmaa sa
viGYeyaH .. 7..









[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread feste37
Next will be bin Laden's cleaning lady (she MUST have known, see), his
dentist, and the guy who used to sell him his morning newspaper.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> effectively castrated.
> 
> Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> the various space time continuums, and control the
> flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> providing further proof, if this were necessary.
> 
> Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> to your 8 year reign.
> Uns.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> effectively castrated.

Don't you mean axles of evil?

 
> Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> the various space time continuums, and control the
> flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> providing further proof, if this were necessary.
> 
> Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> to your 8 year reign.
> Uns.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Yoga Asanas, Course Three

2008-08-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> 
>  From someone who is from the Nath tradition and access to the core of  
> that (Ha- Tha-: the Sun-Moon) 

FWIW:

haTha   m. violence , force (ibc. , %{ena} , and %{At} , `" by force ,
forcibly "') R. Ra1jat. Katha1s. &c. ; obstinacy , pertinacity (ibc.
and %{At} , `" obstinately , persistently "') Pan5cat. Katha1s. ;
absolute or inevitable necessity (as the cause of all existence and
activity ; ibc. , %{At} , and %{ena} , `" necessarily , inevitably ,
by all means "') MBh. Ka1v. &c. ; = %{haTha-yoga} Cat. ; oppression W.
; rapine ib. ; going in the rear of an enemy L. ; Pistia Stratiotes L.

2   hatha   m. a blow , stroke RV. ; killing , slaughter ib. ; a man
stricken with despair Un2. ii , 2 Sch. 



tradition(s) I can tell you authentic  
> traditions do still exist, and also that this type of gross- 
> oversimplification is egregious in it's distortion of working  
> tradition. This is a part of it, but there is depth here I have yet to  
> see in TM praxis--and I really doubt we ever will.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Yoga Asanas, Course Three

2008-08-07 Thread Vaj

On Aug 7, 2008, at 9:45 AM, cardemaister wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






 From someone who is from the Nath tradition and access to the  
core of

that (Ha- Tha-: the Sun-Moon)


FWIW:

haTha   m. violence , force (ibc. , %{ena} , and %{At} , `" by force ,
forcibly "') R. Ra1jat. Katha1s. &c. ; obstinacy , pertinacity (ibc.
and %{At} , `" obstinately , persistently "') Pan5cat. Katha1s. ;
absolute or inevitable necessity (as the cause of all existence and
activity ; ibc. , %{At} , and %{ena} , `" necessarily , inevitably ,
by all means "') MBh. Ka1v. &c. ; = %{haTha-yoga} Cat. ; oppression W.
; rapine ib. ; going in the rear of an enemy L. ; Pistia Stratiotes L.

2   hatha   m. a blow , stroke RV. ; killing , slaughter ib. ; a man
stricken with despair Un2. ii , 2 Sch.



The ha-Tha = sun-moon definition comes directly from one of the Natha  
yogic texts. IIRC it's from the Goraksha-samhita by Gorashanath (the  
founder of Sun-Moon yoga).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
uns_tressor wrote:
> Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> effectively castrated.
> 
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who gives aid to and 
helps the terrorists like Osama bin Laden should be 
shot on the spot, especially their drivers, who
deliver the bombs at weddings and funerals. Anyone
who drives bin Laden around in a car deserves the
death penalty - just hang them, save a good bullet. 

> Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> the various space time continuums, and control the
> flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> providing further proof, if this were necessary.
>
This is B.S.
 
> Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> to your 8 year reign.
> 
There hasn't been a successful terrorist attack on
U.S. soil in over five years. Good job, Mr. Bush!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
feste wrote:
> Next will be bin Laden's cleaning lady (she MUST have 
> known, see), his dentist, and the guy who used to sell 
> him his morning newspaper.  
> 
Anyone who helps the terrorists like Osama bin Laden 
should be arrested, especially his cleaning lady, dentist, 
and the guy who used to sell bin Laden a morning newspaper. 

The Afghan government has a price on bin Laden's head.
Anyone who knowingly conceals information about the
killer bin Laden should be arrested, in my opinion, and
kept in jail until they reveal everything they know about
him.

You two need to get some smarts and stop this liberal
B.S. Almost every one on the planet wants to stop bin
Lasen from killing more innocent people at weddings and
funerals. Wake up and smell the coffee!

> > Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> > of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> > effectively castrated.
> > 
> > Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> > would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> > chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> > the various space time continuums, and control the
> > flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> > No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> > providing further proof, if this were necessary.
> > 
> > Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> > to your 8 year reign.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
Tom wrote:
> Multiple choice?
> 
> A)  Once again psychotically obsessing about TurquoiseB. 
> B)  Being a psycho school marm.
> C)  Engaged in psychotic ruminations that it *MUST* 
> always be about you.
> D)  Acting like a bitter psycho crack pot and twisting 
> the truth 
>
You need to stop the lying, Tom.

> until it suits your needs just as Andrew Scholnick 
> observed.
>
Maybe you've been here too long already, Tom. Maybe it's
time for you to take a break from posting, and then return, 
in a year or two, when you can dialog like a scholar, if 
not a gentleman. At, present you are neither, Sir.

> E)  All of the above.
> 
> I'll take E, thank you.
>






[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Yoga Asanas, Course Three

2008-08-07 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Aug 6, 2008, at 6:18 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> I remember those. I believe it was relatively reasonable, 650 
> or
> > > >> 850 IIRC. I'm thinking lates 80's early 90's.
> > > >
> > > > The hatha yoga course was one of several the
> > > > centers were supposed to be offering, if they
> > > > could get enough people to sign up. I can't now
> > > > remember what the others were. Probably at least
> > > > one was about Ayur-Veda. Another may have been
> > > > the pranayam course Vaj mentions.
> > > >
> > > > When I first heard of them, in the early '90s,
> > > > they cost $1,200. They were said to be like
> > > > getting another advanced technique.
> > > >
> > > > I think I remember they were called "12 Lesson
> > > > Courses." That was the overall name.
> > 
> > Your memories are the same as mine, Judy.  Was one of the
> > courses offered by Aleric and about how human physiology
> > mirrors the Ved and what different parts of the brain were 
> > known to do, all based on Tony's book?
> 
> Do not remember. Certainly could have been. Who's Aleric?

I think his mname was Aleric Alender, I believe a Gov from LA.
> 
> > I also heard that when MMY was developing the yoga asanas
> > course, he had invited several hatha yoga specialists over
> > from India.  They talked and MMY came up with the super 
> > gentle approach that was contrary to all they had believed.
> > They disagreed with MMY's ultra gentle approach.  HOwever,
> > after they discussed it further, MMY refused to budge, and
> > then they tried out his approach.  Word was that they were 
> > enthusiastic about the new way of doing asanas.  This is
> > what I heard from a TM teacher (TB) who had taken the course,
> > so ti may not be valid info.
> 
> It's horribly frustrating not to be able to remember
> the bit of theoretical background I heard, also from
> a TB TM teacher/Purusha. What I *do* remember is that
> it was one of those MMY explanations that pretty much
> turned the traditional notions on their heads and
> that were like a lightbulb going off when you heard
> them because they made so much sense.
> 
> Wait, this just came back to me: It had a lot to do
> with Self-referral, finding Self-referral in the body.
> You were to put the attention on the muscles (and
> joints?) that were being used for a particular asana,
> and this would make some kind of mind-body connection
> that would facilitate Self-referral. Something along
> those lines. If the muscles were being stretched, that
> would inhibit making the connection, just as
> concentration on the mantra inhibits transcending.
>

Exactly, now that you mention it, that is what I recall being told.   I also 
recall that bringing 
awareness to the muscles would enable blockages and stiffness to melt away more 
readily 
due to Self Referral.  But if there was discomfort due to over stretching, it 
could not 
happen. I think a notebook was given to course participants that contained the 
philosophy 
and the poses - someone somewhere must have it. 

In traditional hatha yoga there are  ways of doing the poses that are called 
"restorative."  
Gentle stretch, props to support the body, relaxing into a pose.  It maybe that 
MMY heard 
of that and expanded on it.

> There was more to it, but I think that may have been
> the basis.
> 
> I also recall there was an emphasis on proper
> breathing once you'd gotten used to the postures--
> inhaling with expansion, exhaling with contraction--
> but that's pretty standard with hatha yoga. It was
> never emphasized, to my knowledge, with the asanas
> taught at residence courses, though.
>





[FairfieldLife] Jason Mraz - Bella Luna

2008-08-07 Thread do.rflex

nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC9aHY3bej4



[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> uns_tressor wrote:
> > Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> > of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> > effectively castrated.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned, anyone who gives aid to and 
> helps the terrorists like Osama bin Laden should be 
> shot on the spot, especially their drivers, who
> deliver the bombs at weddings and funerals. Anyone
> who drives bin Laden around in a car deserves the
> death penalty - just hang them, save a good bullet. 

Well, as an American taxpayer, you gave aid
and support to Osama bin Laden when the United
States set him up and funded him in Afghanistan
when he fought for the Mujahadeen.

Please report to your local execution center,
where you will be hanged, as will all American 
taxpayers. (Last person in, please hang yourself.)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
nab wrote:
> I simply don't get it; why on earth is anyone taking 
> what this Turk writes, who is so obviously disturbed, 
> seriously ?
>
It's been years since I had a dialog with the Turq. He
has a very prejudice opinion of anyone living in Texas.
So, I've avoided dialoging with him for a long time.

But, you shouldn't be too hard on the Turq - he's over
there in a foreign land and obviously there's not much
to do. Some people just feel better when they have 
someone to talk to. 

> I certainly don't and also see no reason whatever for 
> others to bother about the rubbish and games he is 
> playing here on FFL.
> 
> Just leave him alone to heal.
>
Just leave him alone to troll.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > As far as I'm concerned, anyone who gives aid to and 
> > helps the terrorists like Osama bin Laden should be 
> > shot on the spot, especially their drivers, who
> > deliver the bombs at weddings and funerals. Anyone
> > who drives bin Laden around in a car deserves the
> > death penalty - just hang them, save a good bullet. 
> >
TurquoiseB wrote:
> Well, as an American taxpayer, you gave aid
> and support to Osama bin Laden when the United
> States set him up and funded him in Afghanistan
> when he fought for the Mujahadeen.
>
You've been drinking too much of the Kool Aid, Turq.

As an American taxpayer, I did not give any aid to
Osama bin Laden or any other terrorist. All my payroll 
taxes go to pay the interest on the U.S. national debt 
which liberals like you caused with your incessant need 
for government payouts and social services.
 
> Please report to your local execution center,
> where you will be hanged, as will all American 
> taxpayers. 
>
Unlike yourself, I already volunteered for the U.S.
military to protect my country.

> (Last person in, please hang yourself.)
>
Go wait at the train station in Madrid, Turq, and get 
yourself another cup of the Kool Aid, save some rope.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress

2008-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> nab wrote:
> > I simply don't get it; why on earth is anyone taking 
> > what this Turk writes, who is so obviously disturbed, 
> > seriously ?
> >
> It's been years since I had a dialog with the Turq. He
> has a very prejudice opinion of anyone living in Texas.
> So, I've avoided dialoging with him for a long time.
> 
> But, you shouldn't be too hard on the Turq - he's over
> there in a foreign land and obviously there's not much
> to do. Some people just feel better when they have 
> someone to talk to. 
> 
> > I certainly don't and also see no reason whatever for 
> > others to bother about the rubbish and games he is 
> > playing here on FFL.
> > 
> > Just leave him alone to heal.
> >
> Just leave him alone to troll.

He's a potbellied, tired looking man past his prime who does not know 
what to do with his life, who hates his past and has no Present life 
apart from scraping by, presenting an imaginary "understanding" of 
Buddhist knowledge, sitting alone in bars somewhere sending off 50 
long posts full of nothing to FFL every week.
 
You are right, he deserves everybodys sympathy. Or contempt.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> uns_tressor wrote:
> > Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> > of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> > effectively castrated.
> > 
> As far as I'm concerned, anyone who gives aid to and 
> helps the terrorists like Osama bin Laden should be 
> shot on the spot, especially their drivers, who
> deliver the bombs at weddings and funerals. Anyone
> who drives bin Laden around in a car deserves the
> death penalty - just hang them, save a good bullet. 
> 
> > Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> > would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> > chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> > the various space time continuums, and control the
> > flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> > No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> > providing further proof, if this were necessary.

Methinks it's Large Hadron Collider, that is, a hadron
collider that is large, not a collider that lets
large hadrons collide...???



> >
> This is B.S.
>  
> > Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> > to your 8 year reign.
> > 
> There hasn't been a successful terrorist attack on
> U.S. soil in over five years. Good job, Mr. Bush!
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread R.G.
 (snip)
> > > Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> > > to your 8 year reign.
> > > 
> > There hasn't been a successful terrorist attack on
> > U.S. soil in over five years. Good job, Mr. Bush!
 (snip)
Mr. Bush had a memo, on this date, seven years ago;
Warning of an attack on the possibly an airline hijacking;
And possible targets in Washington and New York...

9/11 could have been prevented?

Anthrax attack, letters sent out one week, after 9/11.
Seven years later, suspect commits suicide: case closed.

Bush & Co. decides to invade Iraq, and uses false information in 
order to do so.

Bush & Co. work for Big Oil, leaves country  bankrupt, corrupted and 
diminished.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Bhairitu
uns_tressor wrote:
> Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> effectively castrated.
>
> Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> the various space time continuums, and control the
> flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> providing further proof, if this were necessary.
>
> Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> to your 8 year reign.
> Uns.
Good point and I had just been reading Paul Craig Roberts article which 
makes a similar point. Roberts though a member of the Reagan 
administration is *not* a fan of the Bush cabal:

Do You Feel Safe Now?

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Now that military officers selected by the Bush Pentagon have reached a 
split verdict convicting Salim Hamdan, a onetime driver for Osama bin 
Laden, of supporting terrorism, but innocent of terrorist conspiracy, do 
you feel safe?

Or are we superpower Americans still at risk until we capture bin 
Laden’s dentist, barber, and the person who installed the carpet in his 
living room?

The Bush Regime with its comic huffings and puffings is unaware that it 
has made itself the laughing stock of the world, a comedy version of the 
Third Reich.

Hamdan was not defended by the slick lawyers that got O.J. Simpson off, 
and he most certainly did not have a jury of his peers. Hamdan was 
defended by a Pentagon appointed US Navy officer, and his jurors were 
all Pentagon appointed US military officers with an eye on their 
careers. Even in this Kangaroo Court, Hamdan was cleared of the main charge.

The US Navy officer who was Hamdan’s appointed attorney is certainly no 
terrorist sympathizer. Yet even this United States officer said that the 
rules Bush designed for the military tribunals were designed to achieve 
convictions. He also said that the judge allowed evidence that would not 
have been admitted by any civilian or military US court. He said that 
the interrogations of Hamdan, which comprised the basis of the Bush 
Regime’s case, were tainted by coercive tactics, including sleep 
deprivation and solitary confinement.

Does this make you a proud American?

More here:
http://counterpunch.org/roberts08072008.html




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
With this legal precedent in place, if Mayor Wynne of 
Vedic City is ever convicted of a crime, should we
expect the little pundit boy who runs along beside 
him holding the umbrella over his head to keep the 
sun off of his tinfoil turban to do time, too?  :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> uns_tressor wrote:
> > Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> > of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> > effectively castrated.
> >
> > Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> > would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> > chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> > the various space time continuums, and control the
> > flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> > No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> > providing further proof, if this were necessary.
> >
> > Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> > to your 8 year reign.
> > Uns.
> 
> Good point and I had just been reading Paul Craig Roberts article 
> which makes a similar point. Roberts though a member of the Reagan 
> administration is *not* a fan of the Bush cabal:
> 
> Do You Feel Safe Now?
> 
> By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
> 
> Now that military officers selected by the Bush Pentagon have reached a 
> split verdict convicting Salim Hamdan, a onetime driver for Osama bin 
> Laden, of supporting terrorism, but innocent of terrorist
conspiracy, do 
> you feel safe?
> 
> Or are we superpower Americans still at risk until we capture bin 
> Laden's dentist, barber, and the person who installed the carpet in his 
> living room?
> 
> The Bush Regime with its comic huffings and puffings is unaware that it 
> has made itself the laughing stock of the world, a comedy version of
the 
> Third Reich.
> 
> Hamdan was not defended by the slick lawyers that got O.J. Simpson off, 
> and he most certainly did not have a jury of his peers. Hamdan was 
> defended by a Pentagon appointed US Navy officer, and his jurors were 
> all Pentagon appointed US military officers with an eye on their 
> careers. Even in this Kangaroo Court, Hamdan was cleared of the main
charge.
> 
> The US Navy officer who was Hamdan's appointed attorney is certainly no 
> terrorist sympathizer. Yet even this United States officer said that
the 
> rules Bush designed for the military tribunals were designed to achieve 
> convictions. He also said that the judge allowed evidence that would
not 
> have been admitted by any civilian or military US court. He said that 
> the interrogations of Hamdan, which comprised the basis of the Bush 
> Regime's case, were tainted by coercive tactics, including sleep 
> deprivation and solitary confinement.
> 
> Does this make you a proud American?
> 
> More here:
> http://counterpunch.org/roberts08072008.html
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread mainstream20016
First things, First.  
He must first be tortured, sleep deprived, and isolated - then, after 
conviction -  he'll do 
life behind bars. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> With this legal precedent in place, if Mayor Wynne of 
> Vedic City is ever convicted of a crime, should we
> expect the little pundit boy who runs along beside 
> him holding the umbrella over his head to keep the 
> sun off of his tinfoil turban to do time, too?  :-)
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > uns_tressor wrote:
> > > Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> > > of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> > > effectively castrated.
> > >
> > > Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> > > would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> > > chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> > > the various space time continuums, and control the
> > > flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> > > No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> > > providing further proof, if this were necessary.
> > >
> > > Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> > > to your 8 year reign.
> > > Uns.
> > 
> > Good point and I had just been reading Paul Craig Roberts article 
> > which makes a similar point. Roberts though a member of the Reagan 
> > administration is *not* a fan of the Bush cabal:
> > 
> > Do You Feel Safe Now?
> > 
> > By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
> > 
> > Now that military officers selected by the Bush Pentagon have reached a 
> > split verdict convicting Salim Hamdan, a onetime driver for Osama bin 
> > Laden, of supporting terrorism, but innocent of terrorist
> conspiracy, do 
> > you feel safe?
> > 
> > Or are we superpower Americans still at risk until we capture bin 
> > Laden's dentist, barber, and the person who installed the carpet in his 
> > living room?
> > 
> > The Bush Regime with its comic huffings and puffings is unaware that it 
> > has made itself the laughing stock of the world, a comedy version of
> the 
> > Third Reich.
> > 
> > Hamdan was not defended by the slick lawyers that got O.J. Simpson off, 
> > and he most certainly did not have a jury of his peers. Hamdan was 
> > defended by a Pentagon appointed US Navy officer, and his jurors were 
> > all Pentagon appointed US military officers with an eye on their 
> > careers. Even in this Kangaroo Court, Hamdan was cleared of the main
> charge.
> > 
> > The US Navy officer who was Hamdan's appointed attorney is certainly no 
> > terrorist sympathizer. Yet even this United States officer said that
> the 
> > rules Bush designed for the military tribunals were designed to achieve 
> > convictions. He also said that the judge allowed evidence that would
> not 
> > have been admitted by any civilian or military US court. He said that 
> > the interrogations of Hamdan, which comprised the basis of the Bush 
> > Regime's case, were tainted by coercive tactics, including sleep 
> > deprivation and solitary confinement.
> > 
> > Does this make you a proud American?
> > 
> > More here:
> > http://counterpunch.org/roberts08072008.html
> >
>





[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread mainstream20016
My affect is improving daily as the end of 8 long years of the Bush reign is 
just a few 
months away !!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> First things, First.  
> He must first be tortured, sleep deprived, and isolated - then, after 
> conviction -  he'll do 
> life behind bars. 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > With this legal precedent in place, if Mayor Wynne of 
> > Vedic City is ever convicted of a crime, should we
> > expect the little pundit boy who runs along beside 
> > him holding the umbrella over his head to keep the 
> > sun off of his tinfoil turban to do time, too?  :-)
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > uns_tressor wrote:
> > > > Well - the job is virtually done with the incarceration
> > > > of Osama Bin Laden's chauffeur. The Axis of Evil is 
> > > > effectively castrated.
> > > >
> > > > Probably one of the very first thing that you folks
> > > > would have been taught on your arrival at MIU is that
> > > > chauffeurs guard the interstitial vortices between
> > > > the various space time continuums, and control the
> > > > flow of Pure Evil between interlocking universes.
> > > > No doubt the Hadron Large Collider will soon be 
> > > > providing further proof, if this were necessary.
> > > >
> > > > Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax 
> > > > to your 8 year reign.
> > > > Uns.
> > > 
> > > Good point and I had just been reading Paul Craig Roberts article 
> > > which makes a similar point. Roberts though a member of the Reagan 
> > > administration is *not* a fan of the Bush cabal:
> > > 
> > > Do You Feel Safe Now?
> > > 
> > > By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
> > > 
> > > Now that military officers selected by the Bush Pentagon have reached a 
> > > split verdict convicting Salim Hamdan, a onetime driver for Osama bin 
> > > Laden, of supporting terrorism, but innocent of terrorist
> > conspiracy, do 
> > > you feel safe?
> > > 
> > > Or are we superpower Americans still at risk until we capture bin 
> > > Laden's dentist, barber, and the person who installed the carpet in his 
> > > living room?
> > > 
> > > The Bush Regime with its comic huffings and puffings is unaware that it 
> > > has made itself the laughing stock of the world, a comedy version of
> > the 
> > > Third Reich.
> > > 
> > > Hamdan was not defended by the slick lawyers that got O.J. Simpson off, 
> > > and he most certainly did not have a jury of his peers. Hamdan was 
> > > defended by a Pentagon appointed US Navy officer, and his jurors were 
> > > all Pentagon appointed US military officers with an eye on their 
> > > careers. Even in this Kangaroo Court, Hamdan was cleared of the main
> > charge.
> > > 
> > > The US Navy officer who was Hamdan's appointed attorney is certainly no 
> > > terrorist sympathizer. Yet even this United States officer said that
> > the 
> > > rules Bush designed for the military tribunals were designed to achieve 
> > > convictions. He also said that the judge allowed evidence that would
> > not 
> > > have been admitted by any civilian or military US court. He said that 
> > > the interrogations of Hamdan, which comprised the basis of the Bush 
> > > Regime's case, were tainted by coercive tactics, including sleep 
> > > deprivation and solitary confinement.
> > > 
> > > Does this make you a proud American?
> > > 
> > > More here:
> > > http://counterpunch.org/roberts08072008.html
> > >
> >
>





[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Yoga Asanas, Course Three

2008-08-07 Thread yifuxero
-http://www.stressfreeschools.org/video/harvardclub/alaric.html

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > On Aug 6, 2008, at 6:18 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >> I remember those. I believe it was relatively reasonable, 
650 
> > or
> > > > >> 850 IIRC. I'm thinking lates 80's early 90's.
> > > > >
> > > > > The hatha yoga course was one of several the
> > > > > centers were supposed to be offering, if they
> > > > > could get enough people to sign up. I can't now
> > > > > remember what the others were. Probably at least
> > > > > one was about Ayur-Veda. Another may have been
> > > > > the pranayam course Vaj mentions.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I first heard of them, in the early '90s,
> > > > > they cost $1,200. They were said to be like
> > > > > getting another advanced technique.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I remember they were called "12 Lesson
> > > > > Courses." That was the overall name.
> > > 
> > > Your memories are the same as mine, Judy.  Was one of the
> > > courses offered by Aleric and about how human physiology
> > > mirrors the Ved and what different parts of the brain were 
> > > known to do, all based on Tony's book?
> > 
> > Do not remember. Certainly could have been. Who's Aleric?
> 
> I think his mname was Aleric Alender, I believe a Gov from LA.
> > 
> > > I also heard that when MMY was developing the yoga asanas
> > > course, he had invited several hatha yoga specialists over
> > > from India.  They talked and MMY came up with the super 
> > > gentle approach that was contrary to all they had believed.
> > > They disagreed with MMY's ultra gentle approach.  HOwever,
> > > after they discussed it further, MMY refused to budge, and
> > > then they tried out his approach.  Word was that they were 
> > > enthusiastic about the new way of doing asanas.  This is
> > > what I heard from a TM teacher (TB) who had taken the course,
> > > so ti may not be valid info.
> > 
> > It's horribly frustrating not to be able to remember
> > the bit of theoretical background I heard, also from
> > a TB TM teacher/Purusha. What I *do* remember is that
> > it was one of those MMY explanations that pretty much
> > turned the traditional notions on their heads and
> > that were like a lightbulb going off when you heard
> > them because they made so much sense.
> > 
> > Wait, this just came back to me: It had a lot to do
> > with Self-referral, finding Self-referral in the body.
> > You were to put the attention on the muscles (and
> > joints?) that were being used for a particular asana,
> > and this would make some kind of mind-body connection
> > that would facilitate Self-referral. Something along
> > those lines. If the muscles were being stretched, that
> > would inhibit making the connection, just as
> > concentration on the mantra inhibits transcending.
> >
> 
> Exactly, now that you mention it, that is what I recall being 
told.   I also recall that bringing 
> awareness to the muscles would enable blockages and stiffness to 
melt away more readily 
> due to Self Referral.  But if there was discomfort due to over 
stretching, it could not 
> happen. I think a notebook was given to course participants that 
contained the philosophy 
> and the poses - someone somewhere must have it. 
> 
> In traditional hatha yoga there are  ways of doing the poses that 
are called "restorative."  
> Gentle stretch, props to support the body, relaxing into a pose.  
It maybe that MMY heard 
> of that and expanded on it.
> 
> > There was more to it, but I think that may have been
> > the basis.
> > 
> > I also recall there was an emphasis on proper
> > breathing once you'd gotten used to the postures--
> > inhaling with expansion, exhaling with contraction--
> > but that's pretty standard with hatha yoga. It was
> > never emphasized, to my knowledge, with the asanas
> > taught at residence courses, though.
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Sal Sunshine


On Aug 7, 2008, at 1:02 PM, mainstream20016 wrote:


First things, First.
He must first be tortured, sleep deprived, and isolated - then,  
after conviction -  he'll do

life behind bars.


I've got it!  He'll have to wear an idiotic tinfoil hat, a long white
robe,  declare himself Raja of a fictional country as well
as Mayor of a nonexistent entity called by some flaky name
like Vedic City.  And when they come to haul him off to
Oakdale, the last thing he'll hear will be a bagpipe version
of "Baby, You're A Rich Man."

 Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paris Hilton Responds to McCain Ad

2008-08-07 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Paris Hilton can read?
>>>   
>> Paris Hilton, apparently, is no dummy, believe
>> it or not; she just plays one on TV.
>>
>> 
>
> Yeah, was remarking to my son that she was obviously reading lines
> or had memorized the lines, but either way, there was no sense of
> woodenness that almost everyone except accomplished actors has
> when they are repeating even their own words to someone, or perhaps
> that the Paris Hilton woodenness is part of her public persona.
>
> She's obviously very talented to have pulled off the dumb blond routine
> for so long. What her IQ is, is a different question, of course, since
> IQ isn't correlated with acting skill, in many/most people, past the ability
> to read and memorize and follow stage directions.
>
>
> Lawson
There are a number of actors in Hollywood who are there because they 
have high IQs and are able to pull off acting well even if it  wasn't 
their field of study in college.  James Woods comes to mind as he if I 
recall has a master degree in mathematics from MIT.  They get into these 
things as it looks more fun than a boring regular job.  And with so many 
graduating with actual acting skills the day of the "just the pretty 
face that takes 20 takes to get lines right" has well passed.  I recall 
the commentary on "What Dreams May Come" where the director mentioned 
that it took Robin Williams 9 takes to get things right so they had to 
shoot a lot of Anabella Sciorra seperately as she is a  "one take" 
actress. 

As a recording musician on some of the sessions I played a producer 
might bring in someone who was a newbie at recording and we'd sit their 
bored waiting for the guy to play his part without flubbing up.  We 
usually had are stuff down by the second take as the first was just a 
run through to see how it worked.  By the time the guy could play his 
part we were flubbing up because we were bored.

Obviously Paris's whole image is a put on.  My bet she grew up more 
geeky and used a makeover artist to look glamorous.  This happens all 
the time.



 




[FairfieldLife] Just Try This Out ...

2008-08-07 Thread Barbara Thomas
The site I'm always reading and telling you about has now published a 
Master Index that contains 180 different articles regarding every 
aspect of the Bible imaginable, with the following challenge: "IF 
anyone can provide Scripture that supports their "idea" or claim that 
anything we have published is not 100% Biblical, email the Verse(s) 
which prove us wrong and we will publish them.

I know from reading this site that A LOT of people have expressed 
OPINIONS that this, or that, which the site has published is not 
Scriptural, but when they are told to cite Book, Chapter, and Verse 
to support their views, they invariably come back obviously citing 
some Verse completely out of context. And this, believe it or not, is 
more often than not, usually done by preachers, and/or people 
claiming to be Bible Scholars. Almost everyone does a lot of 
criticizing when they first start reading, until they realize 
that "that" is what the Bible actually says.

So, for those who are wanting the pure unadulterated Word, supported 
by a common logic approach to what is actually stated in the Bible, 
come get some of exactly that. Same goes for those who would like to 
have their views and opinions of what the Bible says compared with 
what it actually does say.

Try it out. It has to be the most informative teaching site I have 
ever found on the internet.

http://www.theamericannightmare.org/ONLY__What_It_Actually_Says.html

Laura




[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > > There hasn't been a successful terrorist 
> > > attack on U.S. soil in over five years. 
> > > Good job, Mr. Bush!
> > > 
babajii wrote:
> Mr. Bush had a memo, on this date, seven years 
> ago; Warning of an attack on the possibly an 
> airline hijacking; And possible targets in 
> Washington and New York...
> 
Maybe so, but Mr. George Tenet, the DCI, didn't 
know what day and what time the attack would occur. 
If Tenet had known the exact time and date, he 
would have said so in his book.

Read more:

'At the Center of the Storm'
by George Tenet
HarperCollins, 2007
http://tinyurl.com/5eevoe

> 9/11 could have been prevented?
>
Anything 'could have been prevented', but obviously 
Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and all the rest of your 
congressional leaders, including the terrorism czar 
Richard Clarke, failed - they failed us and let us 
down.

'9/11 conspiracy theories'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

> Anthrax attack, letters sent out one week, after 
> 9/11. Seven years later, suspect commits suicide: 
> case closed.
>
The anthrax attack is not considered to be a terrorist 
attack. Apparently it was committed by a single 
individual.

Read more:

'Anthrax scientist commits suicide'
By Lara Jakes Jordan and David Dishmeau
Associated Press,
http://tinyurl.com/5f9hvp
 
> Bush & Co. decides to invade Iraq, and uses 
> false information in order to do so.
>
The Senate Intelligence Committee had the same 
information that Bush & Co. had - they all agreed 
that Saddam was a threat. The majority of your 
congressional leaders voted to authorize the 
president to use force. The United States and 
coalition forces are in Iraq now with the full
authorization of the United Nations.

> Bush & Co. work for Big Oil, leaves country 
> bankrupt, corrupted and diminished.
>
How, exactly, do you think that working for 'Big 
Oil' has made the country bankrupted, corrupted 
and diminished? In case you haven't been out for 
awhile, the country needs more oil, but no oil
is exported to the U.S. from Iraq. 

Gad Buddy:
http://tinyurl.com/5qo2zl



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Try This Out ...

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara Thomas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The site I'm always reading and telling you about has now 
> published a Master Index that contains 180 different articles 
> regarding every aspect of the Bible imaginable, with the 
> following challenge: "IF anyone can provide Scripture that 
> supports their "idea" or claim that anything we have published 
> is not 100% Biblical, email the Verse(s) which prove us wrong 
> and we will publish them.

100% Biblical. 

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but 
the book that starts by wanting me to believe 
in a talking snake is definitely my "gold 
standard" for credibility. 

If it's Biblical it must be true, right? You
know, the way if it's Vedic, it's good?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
> He said that the interrogations of Hamdan, which 
> comprised the basis of the Bush Regime's case, were 
> tainted by coercive tactics... 
>
Get a clue - the very fact that Hamdan was bin Laden's
driver is proof enough to send Hamdan to jail for thirty 
years. It is unlawful to provide aid to terrorists.

> including sleep deprivation and solitary confinement.
> 
Oh, my Gawd - Osama bin Laden's driver was deprived of 
some sleep? This is just outrageous!
 
> More here:
> http://counterpunch.org/roberts08072008.html
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
> With this legal precedent in place, if Mayor Wynne of 
> Vedic City is ever convicted of a crime, should we
> expect the little pundit boy who runs along beside 
> him holding the umbrella over his head to keep the 
> sun off of his tinfoil turban to do time, too?  :-)
>
What an idiot!
 
Only if the mayor was convicted of terrorism and the
boy pundit drove him to the site of the crime. You are
not even being logical today - put down the pipe and
step away from the laptop. The Mayor of Vedic City
isn't even charged with terrorism. It hasn't even
been established if the mayor has a pundit boy with
an umbrella over his head with a tinfoil turban.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread uns_tressor
>  cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Methinks it's Large Hadron Collider, that is, a hadron
> collider that is large, not a collider that lets
> large hadrons collide...???
> 
Mind you, if it does end up forming a black hole,
and turns much of that end of Europe inside out,
there will be a whole lotta large colliding going
on.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Tom wrote:
> > Multiple choice?
> > 
> > A)  Once again psychotically obsessing about TurquoiseB. 
> > B)  Being a psycho school marm.
> > C)  Engaged in psychotic ruminations that it *MUST* 
> > always be about you.
> > D)  Acting like a bitter psycho crack pot and twisting 
> > the truth 
> >
> You need to stop the lying, Tom.
> 
> > until it suits your needs just as Andrew Scholnick 
> > observed.
> >
> Maybe you've been here too long already, Tom. Maybe it's
> time for you to take a break from posting, and then return, 
> in a year or two, when you can dialog like a scholar, if 
> not a gentleman. At, present you are neither, Sir.
> 
> > E)  All of the above.
> > 
> > I'll take E, thank you.
> >
>

Thanks for the tips WillyTex.

Now, can yas give me some tips on where to find your 
favorite primo prariedog tacos? Surely this will make the
the time I spend in Texas over the next coupla months
more tolerable. Then you can shut your pie-hole.

Best wishes and thanks in advance. 





[FairfieldLife] Bin Laden's Driver Eligible For Release In 5 Months

2008-08-07 Thread do.rflex


GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba — A military jury gave Osama bin
Laden's driver a stunningly lenient sentence on Thursday, making him
eligible for release in just five months despite the prosecutors'
request for a sentence tough enough to frighten terrorists around the
globe.

Salim Hamdan's sentence of 5 1/2 years, including five years and a
month already served at Guantanamo Bay, fell far short of the 30 years
to life that prosecutors wanted. It now goes for mandatory review to a
Pentagon official who can shorten the sentence but not extend it.

It remains unclear what will happen to Hamdan once his sentence is
served, since the U.S. military has said it won't release anyone who
still represents a threat. The judge, Navy Capt. Keith Allred, said
Hamdan would likely be eligible for the same administrative review
process as other prisoners.

Hamdan thanked the jurors for the sentence and repeated his apology
for having served bin Laden.

"I would like to apologize one more time to all the members and I
would like to thank you for what you have done for me," Hamdan told
the panel of six U.S. military officers, hand-picked by the Pentagon
for the first U.S. war crimes trial in a half century.

The military has not said where Hamdan will serve his sentence, but
the commander of the detention center, Navy Rear Adm. David Thomas,
said last week that convicted prisoners will be held apart from the
general detainee population at the isolated U.S. military base in
southeast Cuba.

"I hope the day comes that you return to your wife and daughters and
your country, and you're able to be a provider, a father, and a
husband in the best sense of all those terms," the judge told Hamdan.

Hamdan, dressed in a charcoal sports coat and white robe, responded:
"God willing."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/07/bin-ladens-driver-gets-5_n_117557.html







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
> Bhairitu wrote:
>   
>> He said that the interrogations of Hamdan, which 
>> comprised the basis of the Bush Regime's case, were 
>> tainted by coercive tactics... 
>>
>> 
> Get a clue - the very fact that Hamdan was bin Laden's
> driver is proof enough to send Hamdan to jail for thirty 
> years. It is unlawful to provide aid to terrorists.
>   
Great then we can send Bush to jail for thirty years because he and his 
family did business with the Bin Laden family!
>   
>> including sleep deprivation and solitary confinement.
>>
>> 
> Oh, my Gawd - Osama bin Laden's driver was deprived of 
> some sleep? This is just outrageous!
>   
Okay, if it isn't so bad let's try it with you, Willy.  A few weeks at 
even just 2 hours of sleep a night should wind you up at Austin State 
Hospital



[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> >  cardemaister  wrote:
> > 
> > Methinks it's Large Hadron Collider, that is, a hadron
> > collider that is large, not a collider that lets
> > large hadrons collide...???
> > 
> Mind you, if it does end up forming a black hole,
> and turns much of that end of Europe inside out,
> there will be a whole lotta large colliding going
> on.

ROTFL!!!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.

2008-08-07 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 There hasn't been a successful terrorist 
 attack on U.S. soil in over five years. 
 Good job, Mr. Bush!

 
> babajii wrote:
>   
>> Mr. Bush had a memo, on this date, seven years 
>> ago; Warning of an attack on the possibly an 
>> airline hijacking; And possible targets in 
>> Washington and New York...
>>
>> 
> Maybe so, but Mr. George Tenet, the DCI, didn't 
> know what day and what time the attack would occur. 
> If Tenet had known the exact time and date, he 
> would have said so in his book.
>
> Read more:
>
> 'At the Center of the Storm'
> by George Tenet
> HarperCollins, 2007
> http://tinyurl.com/5eevoe
>
>   
If there's anything we've learned about the Bush administration is that 
they lie, they lie, they lie.



[FairfieldLife] Tabloid's Claims Threaten Edwards' Role At Party's Convention

2008-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
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TABLOID'S CLAIMS THREATEN EDWARDS' ROLE AT PARTY'S CONVENTION
By Mark Johnson
Lorenzo Perez and Lisa Zagaroli contributed to this story
Charlotte Observer
August 6, 2008

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/46637.html

RALEIGH, N.C. - Former Sen. John Edwards has a deadline to save his spot on
the national stage.

With two weeks to go before their national convention, a number of Democrats
are saying that Edwards needs to publicly address National Enquirer stories
that have alleged he had an affair with a campaign worker and fathered her
baby.

If Edwards fails to clear up the story in short order, he risks party
officials deciding not to have him speak or, if they do, creating a
distraction from a week focused on Barack Obama accepting the nomination.

"If there is not an explanation that¹s satisfactory, acceptable and meets
high moral standards, the answer is 'no,' he would not be a prime candidate
to make a major address to the convention," said Don Fowler, a former
Democratic National Committee chair.

Democrats gather in Denver on Aug. 25 and Edwards, as the 2004 vice
presidential nominee and a presidential candidate who won delegates this
year, ordinarily would be locked in as a speaker.

"He absolutely does have to (resolve it). If it's not true, he has to issue
a stronger denial," said Gary Pearce, the Democratic strategist who ran
Edwards¹ 1998 Senate race. "It's a very damaging thing. Š

"The big media has tried to be responsible and handle this with kid gloves,
but it's clearly getting ready to bust out. If it's not true, he's got to
stand up and say, 'This is not true. That is not my child and I'm going to
take legal action against the people who are spreading these lies.' It's not
enough to say, 'That¹s tabloid trash,' " Pearce said.

Edwards is widely regarded as a rousing speaker, particularly on poverty,
and still has as many as 19 delegates pledged to him, making him a logical
choice for a high-profile convention role under normal circumstances.

Convention organizers said Wednesday that the schedule of speakers has not
yet been announced.

Edwards' political currency declines with each day the story goes
unresolved, Fowler and other Democratic strategists said.

An appearance at the convention would only highlight the unresolved story,
said Chris Lehane, a Democratic consultant and former aide to then-Vice
President Al Gore. A convention speaking appearance could become the moment
that drives news media coverage of the alleged affair to explode.

"You want to address these issues long before you get to that point," Lehane
said. "Otherwise people who haven¹t written about it before, now start
writing about it." Edwards' decision not to take questions about the alleged
affair has allowed doubts to linger and political bloggers to speculate. The
National Enquirer has reported that he fathered a child with a former
campaign worker and met with her in a Beverly Hills hotel last month. He
made no response to the National Enquirer¹s posting on Wednesday of what it
said was a photo of Edwards and his illegitimate child. Two weeks ago, after
the National Enquirer ran the story about the hotel liaison, he dismissed a
reporter¹s question in Houston and used the "tabloid trash" line.

He brushed off a McClatchy reporter in Washington last week: "Can't do it
now, I'm sorry."

His designated staffer for press contacts has not responded to e-mail
requests for an interview.

No one answered a reporter who rang a buzzer at the gate of Edwards' Orange
County home on Wednesday.

Friends and former staffers refuse to comment now, though they helped
Edwards last fall by dismissing an October story in the Enquirer of a sexual
relationship between Edwards and a campaign videographer when it initially
broke.

"Sorry cannot help you on this one," wrote Jennifer Palmieri, a former top
Edwards aide, in an e-mail Wednesday.

The Enquirer's October story, citing unnamed sources, claimed that Edwards
was having an affair with a woman who had filmed a series of videos during
his presidential campaign. The tabloid later reported that she was pregnant.

Two weeks ago, the tabloid posted a story online chronicling how Edwards had
visited the woman, Rielle Hunter, and their child on July 21 at a Beverly
Hills hotel and that the paper¹s reporters confronted him afterward.

Hunter posted an online statement at the time denying the October story. In
December, a campaign worker for Edwards, Andrew Young, claimed paternity of
the woman¹s then-unborn child. Last week, though, the Charlotte Observer
obtained a copy of the child's birth certificate, which did not list the
father. Hunter's lawyer would say only that "a lot of women do that" and
that it was a personal matter between Hunter and Young.

Presidential candid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Try This Out ...

2008-08-07 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara Thomas"
> barbara_thomas73@ wrote:
> >
> > The site I'm always reading and telling you about has now
> > published a Master Index that contains 180 different articles
> > regarding every aspect of the Bible imaginable, with the
> > following challenge: "IF anyone can provide Scripture that
> > supports their "idea" or claim that anything we have published
> > is not 100% Biblical, email the Verse(s) which prove us wrong
> > and we will publish them.
>
> 100% Biblical.
>
> I don't know about the rest of you guys, but
> the book that starts by wanting me to believe
> in a talking snake is definitely my "gold
> standard" for credibility.
>
> If it's Biblical it must be true, right? You
> know, the way if it's Vedic, it's good?

 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)

2008-08-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Maybe you've been here too long already, Tom. Maybe 
> > it's time for you to take a break from posting, and 
> > then return, in a year or two, when you can dialog 
> > like a scholar, if not a gentleman. At, present you 
> > are neither, Sir.
> > 
Tom wrote:
> Thanks for the tips WillyTex.
> 
> Now, can yas give me some tips on where to find your 
> favorite primo prariedog tacos?
>
Up your ass you'd know where to find primo 'prariedog' 
tacos, Tom!  

> Surely this will make the the time I spend in Texas 
> over the next coupla months more tolerable. 
> 
Don't forget to visit Radiance, the home of the 
Superradiance Program and the Maharishi Golden Dome of 
Pure Knowledge, near Austin, Texas.

> Then you can shut your pie-hole.
>
It's very difficult to eat primo 'prariedog' tacos with 
your pie hole shut!

> Best wishes and thanks in advance.
>
When your are lost everything, be a sign.

http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/b_a_sign.jpg







[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Guru Dev

2008-08-07 Thread netineti3
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM, netineti3 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxh2Txy9_C4
> >>>
> >>> Here's the well-known Guru Dev film footage [on YouTube], but with
> >> an added
> >>> 'wire-recording' of Guru Dev speaking (not corresponding to the
> >> footage).
> >>> The sound quality is surprisingly good, and you can hear the  
> >>> audience
> >>> laughing several times; Starting around 2:20 you will see a few
> >> seconds of
> >>> Maharishi talking animatedly when he was Guru Dev's disciple.
> >>
> >> Nice video, do you know what form of mediation the Guru Dev practiced
> >> to reach his Sahaja-Samadhi?
> >>
> >
> > Do you really think only meditation is the path?
> > Sahaja samadhi is what?
> 
> 
> Samaya Sri Vidya from Hindu Anuttara-tantra.

Vaj,

Are you saying this is what he practised?


>




[FairfieldLife] Immortal the movie-Vaj

2008-08-07 Thread netineti3
Vaj,

The day you suggested this movie I put it into my netflix cue and had
it the next day.
Watched it and enjoyed. Gave it about a 7 out of 10.
INteresting animation and concept.

Thanks!



[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2008-08-07 Thread Bhairitu
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[FairfieldLife] 'Black Hole Experiment set for 9/10'

2008-08-07 Thread Robert

Large Hadron Collider to start on Sept. 10
This 2007 file photo shows the magnet core of the world's largest 
superconducting solenoid magnet, part of the Large Hadron Collider particle 
accelerator. Some 2000 scientists from 155 institutes in 36 countries are 
working together to build the particle detector. (AP Photo/Keystone, Martial 
Trezzini) 

The world's biggest particle collider is set to accelerate its first beam of 
protons on Sept. 10, according to the European Organization for Nuclear 
Research.
The organization, which goes by the French acronym CERN, said the Large Hadron 
Collider (LHC) has completed a cool down phase and is now ready for a few final 
tests before it begins accelerating, and later colliding, particle beams.
"We're finishing a marathon with a sprint," said LHC project leader Lyn Evans 
in a statement. "It's been a long haul, and we're all eager to get the LHC 
research program underway."
The LHC is expected to be the most powerful tool yet for physicists hoping to 
uncover the secrets behind the laws of the universe, both on the tiny scale of 
quantum mechanics and the huge areas affected by galaxies and black holes.
The collider, which lies in a 27 kilometre-long circuit underground beneath the 
Franco-Swiss border, has been built at an estimated cost of $9 billion Cdn.
How it will work
The accelerator will push two proton beams using a ring of super-cooled magnets 
to speeds and energies never before reached under controlled conditions and 
crash them into one another to create and detect a host of new particles.
When running at its peak, the LHC will be able to push particles at a top 
energy of seven tera-electron volts (TeV), or seven million-million electron 
volts.
But for its first test on Sept. 10, the LHC will be running with an injection 
energy of 450 GeV, or 0.45 TeV. Once the circulating beams have been 
established — likely in 2009 — the accelerator will move to higher energies.
Thousands of researchers from around the world will be working at the LHC to 
interpret the results of its particle collisions.
In particular, they will be looking for signs of the Higgs boson, a previously 
undetected particle thought to impart mass. Scientists have been searching for 
it since it was first proposed as part of the Standard Model of physics, a 
theory used to explain the interaction between electromagnetism and the strong 
and weak nuclear forces, which — along with gravity — make up the four 
fundamental forces of nature.
The detection or lack of detection of this and other particles and even extra 
dimensions could help scientists back up or disprove current theories of the 
universe and give us a better understanding of the origin and composition of 
the universe.
Protesters predict disaster
The project has also attracted protests in Europe from people who fear the 
particle collider will trigger a disaster, with some scenarios suggesting the 
accelerator will create a black hole that will swallow the Earth.
The CERN physicists have dismissed these claims, with Evans saying in June: 
"Obviously, the world will not end when the LHC switches on."
Cliff Burgess, a physics and astronomy professor at McMaster University and 
associate member of the Waterloo-Ont.-based Perimeter Institute, said the 
collisions at LHC won't be very different from the collisions of cosmic rays 
and other particles that hit the Earth and travel across the universe.
"We understand well how a lot of stars work and have some understanding of how 
pulsars work, and none of that got screwed up by cosmic rays hitting them," 
said Burgess. "And cosmic rays can hit at much higher energies."
Burgess said even if black holes were created in the LHC, they would almost 
certainly be tiny and evaporate in the form of radiation.
Last Updated: Thursday, August 7, 2008  


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Immortal the movie-Vaj

2008-08-07 Thread gullible fool

 
I watched "But I'm a Cheerleader" on HBO recently and highly recommend 
it. "Fall" is also an interesting movie. 

"...but mountain doesn't move!"

--- On Thu, 8/7/08, netineti3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: netineti3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Immortal the movie-Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 6:50 PM

Vaj,

The day you suggested this movie I put it into my netflix cue and had
it the next day.
Watched it and enjoyed. Gave it about a 7 out of 10.
INteresting animation and concept.

Thanks!




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Immortal the movie-Vaj

2008-08-07 Thread Vaj


On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:50 PM, netineti3 wrote:


Vaj,

The day you suggested this movie I put it into my netflix cue and had
it the next day.
Watched it and enjoyed. Gave it about a 7 out of 10.
INteresting animation and concept.

Thanks!



Glad you liked it!

I watch so many darn movies, I need to start writing some of the great  
ones down.


A recent excellent series and still playing on the Sundance channel is  
Jennifer Fox's Flying: Confessions of a Free Woman, which originally  
aired on Dutch TV is a must see. Done in six, 1 hour chapters it's a  
wonderful and deep portrait of a woman and womanhood, all over the  
world.


http://www.flyingconfessions.com/about_WatchTrailer.php

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Yoga Asanas, Course Three

2008-08-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > Wait, this just came back to me: It had a lot to do
> > with Self-referral, finding Self-referral in the body.
> > You were to put the attention on the muscles (and
> > joints?) that were being used for a particular asana,
> > and this would make some kind of mind-body connection
> > that would facilitate Self-referral. Something along
> > those lines. If the muscles were being stretched, that
> > would inhibit making the connection, just as
> > concentration on the mantra inhibits transcending.
> 
> Exactly, now that you mention it, that is what I recall being
> told.

Oh, good! I'm delighted to know I wasn't just
making it up out of old fragments of this-and-that.

   I also recall that bringing 
> awareness to the muscles would enable blockages and stiffness
> to melt away more readily due to Self Referral.  But if there
> was discomfort due to over stretching, it could not happen.

Yup, that sounds right.

 I think a notebook was given to course participants that contained
> the philosophy and the poses - someone somewhere must have it.

Boy, I'd love to see it.

> In traditional hatha yoga there are  ways of doing the poses
> that are called "restorative." Gentle stretch, props to support
> the body, relaxing into a pose.  It maybe that MMY heard 
> of that and expanded on it.

Could well be. But he tied it all in theoretically
with the rest of his teaching. It's always been
that wholeness of what he taught that has caught
my fancy (with regard to the nature and mechanics
of consciousness, that is, not his political or
social or economic theories!).




[FairfieldLife] 'My Dream, this morning...'

2008-08-07 Thread Robert
I had a dream this morning which was unusual, 
And which I thought, I would share...
 
I was watching Maharishi and Guru Dev...
Sitting cross-legged, in facing each other...
They seemed to be fixated on each other,
And Maharishi seemed to be hugging him,
And stroking his forehead and face...
There was a feeling of love, and of accomplishment.
The was a feeling of completion.
The dream only lasted a few minutes,
But left a deep impression upon me.
R.G.


  

[FairfieldLife] 'Obama=Walks the Walk/McCain=Talks the talk'

2008-08-07 Thread Robert
As we have seen, Senator Obama has been vetted...
On the other hand;
Senator McCain seems to be in everyone's pocket-
>From Disney, to Britney to Who KNows What?
John will be;
Whomever 'They' want him to be
Sad, john, sad...
 
R.G.  Madison, Wisconsin.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> > > Maybe you've been here too long already, Tom. Maybe 
> > > it's time for you to take a break from posting, and 
> > > then return, in a year or two, when you can dialog 
> > > like a scholar, if not a gentleman. At, present you 
> > > are neither, Sir.
> > > 
> Tom wrote:
> > Thanks for the tips WillyTex.
> > 
> > Now, can yas give me some tips on where to find your 
> > favorite primo prariedog tacos?
> >
> Up your ass you'd know where to find primo 'prariedog' 
> tacos, Tom!  

Thats outrageous!
Why does it always come down to sex with you WillyTex?
I told you I'm not gay!
http://tinyurl.com/suwu8
Now, GFY.
 
> > Surely this will make the the time I spend in Texas 
> > over the next coupla months more tolerable. 
> > 
> Don't forget to visit Radiance, the home of the 
> Superradiance Program and the Maharishi Golden Dome of 
> Pure Knowledge, near Austin, Texas.

Are there taco stands nearby?
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'My Dream, this morning...'

2008-08-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had a dream this morning which was unusual, 
> And which I thought, I would share...
>  
> I was watching Maharishi and Guru Dev...
> Sitting cross-legged, in facing each other...
> They seemed to be fixated on each other,
> And Maharishi seemed to be hugging him,
> And stroking his forehead and face...
> There was a feeling of love, and of accomplishment.
> The was a feeling of completion.
> The dream only lasted a few minutes,
> But left a deep impression upon me.
> R.G.
>

That wasn't Maharishi and Guru Dev that you saw
It was B. Hussein Obama and his beloved mentor 
of twenty years
the good Reverend Jeremiah Wright
Yeah, that Rev. Wright
the racist demagogue
who danced and pranced
and spouted shit from his pie-hole
while B. Hussein sat in his pew
and ate it up
for twenty years
since B. Hussein has zero accomplishments to his name
except of course as the Messiah to be
and since
he has flip-flopped
on virtually every important issue
as well as the minor ones
no one has any clue
what the hell he stands for
or what constitutes his character
therefore
we are forced
to examine
the influences over this man
during his lifetime
and we come up with men
such as Jeremiah the Bullshit Frog
and it's not a pretty sight



[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2008-08-07 Thread FairfieldLife

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2008-08-07 Thread shempmcgurk
Rick:

FFLife is now a classified Ad depot?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
>
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife 
> group.
> 
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>   Description : Sony TV for sale 
> 
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Local%20Services%
20-%20For%20Sale/27%22%20TV 
> 
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> 
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>




[FairfieldLife] Testify or Impeach

2008-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
Dear Friend -

 

On September 26, congressional oversight may be dead.  The Constitution that
has served our nation so well since 1789 may be hopelessly and forever
diminished.  Our federal government and, in turn, our nation may never be
the same.

 

Those are the stakes.

 

In order for our government to function, we must have checks and balances.
In order to prevent a president from assuming king-like powers and to ensure
that all presidents are held accountable for their actions, Congress must
have effective congressional oversight ability.  And, of course, our
presidents must respect that power.

 

George W. Bush does not.

 

It is time to put an end to this defiling of our Constitution.  The U.S.
House of Representatives has set September 26 as a target date for
adjournment.  By that time, Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, and Josh Bolten must
comply with the congressional subpoenas they have been issued - and which a
federal judge has ordered them to follow. 

 

If they do not, then George W. Bush must be impeached and removed from
office.

 

If he is not removed from office, Congress will have established a standard
under which a president may deny Congress's investigative power without
penalty.  That simply cannot happen.

 

That is why I just sent an E-mail to the White House through the American
Freedom Campaign's Web site.  The simple message is that President Bush must
direct his current and former officials to comply with congressional
subpoenas or he will deserve -- and if all goes well he will face
--impeachment.

 

I urge you to join my in this effort.  Just use the following link to send
your own message to the White House.

 

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2165/t/1027/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2
5316

 

Thanks for taking action. 



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2008-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:07 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

 

Rick:

FFLife is now a classified Ad depot?

For years there has been a folder in the files section where one can post
notices about commercial services. I see no harm in posting for sale items
there either. Does anyone object to that?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Testify or Impeach

2008-08-07 Thread shempmcgurk
Oh, this is precious.

Nutwings pushing for the impeachment of a sitting lame-duck president 
as a presidential election looms.

Republicans everywhere must be on their knees praying to God that 
this idiots continue their campaign.  There is no better way to 
irritate undecided's and to get them into the Republican camp on 
voting day.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Friend -
> 
>  
> 
> On September 26, congressional oversight may be dead.  The 
Constitution that
> has served our nation so well since 1789 may be hopelessly and 
forever
> diminished.  Our federal government and, in turn, our nation may 
never be
> the same.
> 
>  
> 
> Those are the stakes.
> 
>  
> 
> In order for our government to function, we must have checks and 
balances.
> In order to prevent a president from assuming king-like powers and 
to ensure
> that all presidents are held accountable for their actions, 
Congress must
> have effective congressional oversight ability.  And, of course, our
> presidents must respect that power.
> 
>  
> 
> George W. Bush does not.
> 
>  
> 
> It is time to put an end to this defiling of our Constitution.  The 
U.S.
> House of Representatives has set September 26 as a target date for
> adjournment.  By that time, Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, and Josh 
Bolten must
> comply with the congressional subpoenas they have been issued - and 
which a
> federal judge has ordered them to follow. 
> 
>  
> 
> If they do not, then George W. Bush must be impeached and removed 
from
> office.
> 
>  
> 
> If he is not removed from office, Congress will have established a 
standard
> under which a president may deny Congress's investigative power 
without
> penalty.  That simply cannot happen.
> 
>  
> 
> That is why I just sent an E-mail to the White House through the 
American
> Freedom Campaign's Web site.  The simple message is that President 
Bush must
> direct his current and former officials to comply with congressional
> subpoenas or he will deserve -- and if all goes well he will face
> --impeachment.
> 
>  
> 
> I urge you to join my in this effort.  Just use the following link 
to send
> your own message to the White House.
> 
>  
> 
> http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2165/t/1027/campaign.jsp?
campaign_KEY=2
> 5316
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for taking action.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditator Done Good

2008-08-07 Thread John





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Ya betcha, pilgrim.  The TMO should get him as the Rajah of 
> > Brazil. He would be an efficient executive or administrator 
> > for the movement.
> 
> The conditions of miners in Brazil is known and
> lamented world-wide. They are considered some of
> the most oppressed people on earth. And that's
> not only OK for you but a sign of someone "doing
> good" and displaying "cosmic efficiency," yes?
> 
> Wouldn't it have been MORE cosmically efficient
> to pay them nothing instead of pennies (while 
> making millions) and make them work the mines as
> slaves? What would Krishna have done?  :-)
> 
> My point is that you seem to admire those who 
> make money, and don't care a whit about how they
> make it. Very TM of you.
> 

You're making an assumption that the mine featured in the film clip 
is owned by the meditator-billionaire in question.  The conclusion 
one should make is that we don't know who owns the mine.  Therefore, 
the person in question is innocent until proven guilty.

This is the kind of mentality that Bush made in accusing Hussein of 
having weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.  In making this 
irresponsible assumption, Bush mad an ass of you, me and the American 
public.


JR 















> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
> > > < in my Willytex voice >
> > > 
> > > So you're saying that he made his money by being 
> > > a mine owner in Brazil?
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGfXaqnvhfA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To All:
> > > > 
> > > > Here's an article from the NY Times about a meditator who 
found 
> > > > cosmic efficiency in Brazil:
> > > > 
> > > > Saturday Profile
> > > > For Wealthy Brazilian, Money From Ore and Might From the 
Cosmos 
> > > >  
> > > > By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
> > > > Published: August 2, 2008
> > > > SALVADOR, Brazil 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > Joao Pina for The New York Times
> > > > "I need to discover new reserves that can generate more 
wealth, 
> > more 
> > > > employment." -- João Carlos Cavalcanti 
> > > > 
> > > > "I AM connected to the divine, to these forces here," João 
Carlos 
> > > > Cavalcanti, the Brazilian mining magnate, said as he swept an 
arm 
> > out 
> > > > across the lily pad-covered lake behind his $15 million 
mansion.
> > > > 
> > > > A gentle breeze rustled through his thick white beard. Mr. 
> > Cavalcanti 
> > > > stood on the pier and closed his eyes for a moment. A 
uniformed 
> > > > servant, one of a staff of 15, hovered nearby with hors 
d'oeuvres 
> > and 
> > > > nonalcoholic drinks. She knew better than to disturb a man 
who 
> > > > meditates for three hours a day and constantly refers to 
himself 
> > as 
> > > > a "mystical" person who draws strength from "the cosmos" — 
when 
> > he is 
> > > > not collecting expensive cars, fine paintings and other 
> > playthings. 
> > > > 
> > > > Minutes later, as Mr. Cavalcanti made his way back up the 
hill, 
> > > > through his Thai- and Indonesian-inspired gardens with 
Buddhist 
> > > > statues, his cellphone rang. Another banker was calling, this 
one 
> > > > from Canada, eager to do business with one of Brazil's newest 
> > > > billionaires. Mr. Cavalcanti explained that he had big plans 
of 
> > his 
> > > > own, to form a "world mining bank" with Merrill Lynch and 
raise 
> > > > capital for exploration projects around the world.
> > > > 
> > > > This is the life of the nouveau billionaire in Brazil — the 
life 
> > that 
> > > > Mr. Cavalcanti said he dreamed of from the age of 9 and from 
the 
> > time 
> > > > he immersed himself in biographies of Henry Ford, John Jacob 
> > Astor 
> > > > and John D. Rockefeller.
> > > > 
> > > > A geologist by training, Mr. Cavalcanti — who goes by J.C. — 
> > applied 
> > > > his knowledge and considerable gumption to discovering huge 
> > reserves 
> > > > of iron ore and other minerals. Today he pegs his net worth 
at 
> > $1.2 
> > > > billion, placing him among the 20 richest men in Brazil. 
Before 
> > this 
> > > > year is out, he vows to have $1 billion in liquid 
investments, to 
> > go 
> > > > with his 39 cars, 10 homes and two airplanes.
> > > > 
> > > > Mr. Cavalcanti, 59, is a charter member of an emerging mega-
rich 
> > > > group in Brazil, whose flourishing economy minted the third 
most 
> > > > millionaires last year, after India and China, according to a 
> > recent 
> > > > study by Merrill Lynch and Capgemini, the big consulting 
firm. He 
> > is 
> > > > among the newly wealthy benefiting from Brazil's boom in 
> > commodities 
> > > > like soybeans and iron ore. 
> > > > 
> > > > The group includes Eike Batista, a mining and oil exploration 
> > > > entrepreneur who is worth $6.6 billion, according to Forbes. 
Mr. 
> > > > Batista, a college dropout and former

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditator Done Good

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ya betcha, pilgrim.  The TMO should get him as the Rajah of 
> > > Brazil. He would be an efficient executive or administrator 
> > > for the movement.
> > 
> > The conditions of miners in Brazil is known and
> > lamented world-wide. They are considered some of
> > the most oppressed people on earth. And that's
> > not only OK for you but a sign of someone "doing
> > good" and displaying "cosmic efficiency," yes?
> > 
> > Wouldn't it have been MORE cosmically efficient
> > to pay them nothing instead of pennies (while 
> > making millions) and make them work the mines as
> > slaves? What would Krishna have done?  :-)
> > 
> > My point is that you seem to admire those who 
> > make money, and don't care a whit about how they
> > make it. Very TM of you.
> 
> You're making an assumption that the mine featured in the film clip 
> is owned by the meditator-billionaire in question.  The conclusion 
> one should make is that we don't know who owns the mine.  
> Therefore, the person in question is innocent until proven guilty.
> 
> This is the kind of mentality that Bush made in accusing Hussein of 
> having weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.  In making this 
> irresponsible assumption, Bush mad an ass of you, me and the 
> American public.

I do not make any assumption at all, and I make
no specific "accusation" at all. I am merely 
pointing out that when I read an article telling
me to admire someone for having made money, I 
tend to want to know HOW he made his money, and
whether he might have made it from something 
like being a mine owner, which in Brazil is 
pretty much equivalent to being a slaver.

For you, the ONLY thing that seemed to matter
was that he made a lot of money. As I said at 
the start, how very TM of you.





[FairfieldLife] The sun in motion

2008-08-07 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.thesuninmotion.com/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Immortal the movie-Vaj

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, netineti3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Vaj,
> 
> The day you suggested this movie I put it into my netflix cue and had
> it the next day.
> Watched it and enjoyed. Gave it about a 7 out of 10.
> INteresting animation and concept.
> 
> Thanks!

It's by Enki Bilal, France's best-known and
best-respected author of graphic novels. It's
interesting in that it's one of the few instances
(so far) of the actual artist of one of these
graphic novels bringing it to the screen. That
and a former Miss France playing the part of
the blue-haired babe.  :-)






[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditator Done Good

2008-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I do not make any assumption at all, and I make
> no specific "accusation" at all. I am merely 
> pointing out that when I read an article telling
> me to admire someone for having made money, I 
> tend to want to know HOW he made his money, and
> whether he might have made it from something 
> like being a mine owner, which in Brazil is 
> pretty much equivalent to being a slaver.
> 
> For you, the ONLY thing that seemed to matter
> was that he made a lot of money. As I said at 
> the start, how very TM of you.

Since you clearly don't get what I'm hinting 
at, John, I'll explain it a little. I'm suggest-
ing that when it comes to admiring people, you 
have very low standards.

Your whole *point* in posting the article seemed
to be, "See! This guy practices TM and he found
an iron ore field and got rich. Voila! TM works!
*This* is how 'support of nature' works!"

Low standards.

If the guy had gotten rich by inventing a tech-
nology that freed us from dependence on polluting
fossil fuels, I might admire him. If the guy had
found a way to get rich by improving the living
standards for the people of Brazil as a whole,
I might admire him. If the guy had found a cure
for cancer, I might have admired him.

All he did is make money, and he made his money
in a field that -- in his country -- is pretty
much synonymous with slavery. World organizations
have worked for decades to try to improve the
near-slavery-like work and lifestyle conditions 
of miners in Brazil. So am I supposed to *admire*
this person for having made his money this way? 
No way.

But you seem to. The question of HOW he made his 
money never entered your mind. Having made a bundle 
of money is ENOUGH for you to admire him. 

I rest my point, and restate my thesis: How very
TM of you, admiring people because they're a member 
of the same elitist club you are, and made money. 

Would you admire a TMer if he made his millions
as an arms dealer? As a cocaine dealer? I'm betting
that the money and the TMer status would be all
that mattered to you. Low standards.