date:20090811

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance  wrote:
>
> I agree with what you say about Hagelin, but Tony Nader is intellectually 
> very capable.  He has both an MD and PhD from reputable institutions (one at 
> least, possibly both, from The American University in Beirut, Lebanon which 
> his is country of origin. 
> 
Even very clever and educated people can leave behind their intelligence and 
education when they get caught up in ideologies. He's passed exams but the only 
ideas he's had are obvious junk to anyone who knows how to put together a 
logical argument. 

His principle skill has been to cultivate favor with MMY and that is an area 
where he was a genius. Evidence;- he together with David Orme-Johnson were 
scheduled to speak at a conference on ethno-botany, i.e. medical herbs from a 
scientists point of view. They were bringing the Ayurvedic point of view and as 
is normal at these conferences had given the organizers abstracts of their 
talks in advance. So people were expecting some serious scientists talking 
intelligently about learning what ancient Indian culture knows about the 
medical uses of plants. What they got was something completely different. TN 
and DOJ turned up with a news film crew in tow so there could be a news report 
on MAV presented at a scientific conference. They ignored their abstracts and 
instead spoke about TM and the consciousness of plants, dissed everyone 
connected with the event and left after their allotted lectures without 
listening to other lectures or socializing with other participants. So the net 
result was strongly negative for the academic credibility of MIU (as it was 
then) and TM and MAV in general. But crucially TN had a video tape of himself 
giving a talk on MAV at a scientific conference which he could show to MMY, and 
report on a "great success, rapturous audience" and so on, the kind of thing 
MMY liked to hear. As far as TN was concerned that was the whole point of the 
exercise, not to spread knowledge and boost the standing of MIU, but to boost 
his own standing with MMY, even at the expense of the credibility of MIU. If 
you listen to TN's talks you'll notice that they're full of flattery and 
information free statements like "this is such beautiful knowledge" and not a 
lot else besides. 

People who are eager to boost their own standing in the TMO at the expense of 
the standing of the TMO in wider society should be regarded with deepest 
suspicion.

Although John and Tony are both very clever I'd identify the crucial difference 
as being that John does at least have a clear exit route from insanity. His 
ideas are open to being falsified and he'd have to change his mind if better 
evidence came along which refuted unified field theories. Tony's ideas are such 
a pile of elephant dung they're not even capable of being falsified so his exit 
route from insanity is less clear. His theories make no predictions, they're 
just a random collection of co-incidences with no thread of explanation. The 
only falsification one can make is to point that out, which is blindingly 
obvious to anyone with an appropriate education but invisible to people in the 
TMO. His exit route from insanity is more likely to come from a slow 
realization that dressing up as a king isn't a good way to present the TMO to 
the public. As the number of people at the court of Vlodrop decreases over the 
next 10 to 20 years he'll slowly realize something is wrong. Whereas John is 
likely to have to face up to reality when the results from CERN come in.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

Vaj, you may be correct, but as a species we all seem to be far more alike than 
different. We all apprehend the being that we are from different angles and 
with different approaches, but at some point all that evaporates, certainly, 
and what 'is' is all that remains.  

That's my take, at least, and that same apprehension of the imminent 
trancendent has been reiterated in many cultures and in many times in the past. 
 But maybe that only means that I've fallen for one of the oldest scams in the 
book.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> I'm sorry to say Marek, but I feel illusion of a philosophia perennis  
> as a continuing thread of generic gnosis, same-awakening, across time,  
> as some universal spiritual awakening (for different human-folk) to be  
> totally imaginary and anti-inner-anthemic. It goes against the grain  
> of the fact that we're all unique, each holding his/her own mythos,  
> our own Rig Ved (but not a synthetic thought-plane projection of our  
> imaginings of 'that').
> 
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
> 
> > The Perennial Philosophy in practice.
> >
> > **
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wise Latina



On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Robert wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:12 PM, scienceofabundance wrote:
>
> > I very much like the way the phrase "Wise Latina" is being rapidly
> > transformed from a "less than" phrase which was intended to "get"
> > Judge Sotomayer during her Supreme Court hearings, to a phrase of
> > which Latinas can be proud.
> >
> > One of the initiators of this campaign is a Latina Federal judge  
in

> > NY and her campaign is gaining extremely rapid strength.
> >
> > You go!!
>
> I should make my own T-Shirt:
>
> Wise Latina
> Lover
>
> I'm sure that'd get some attention!
> (well, one hopes) :-)
>
Se, amigo...mucho bueno idea, se?
One would hope as one gets older, one would also get wiser...as this  
would be necessary in order to keep the Wise Latina, interested in  
you, rather than the Bull Fighter, in Arena of Life...



Well in the cult of the Bull, one merely needs to know the rules of  
that story, of that thought-myth. It's a pretty old, earlier state-of- 
consciousness. Pre-Vedic. And like all 'games', one just needs to know  
how to arise to the typical challenges of that myth. But 'aye, there's  
the rub'...

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Party is Over!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
>
> What happened to the hope and the change? 
> 
> So, what really did happen to 'single payer' 
> universal health care? What happened to health 
> care 'universality'? 
> 
> What happened to the idea than we could lower 
> the exploding costs of health care? What 
> happened to the promise that Obama made that 
> he wouldn't turn this over to the special 
> interests pharmaceutical corporations? 
> 
> What happened and why did Obama turn his back 
> on the Progressives? What happened to The 
> Party?
> 
> "...when an industry gets secret concessions 
> out of the White House in return for a promise 
> to lend the industry's support to a key piece 
> of legislation, we're in big trouble."
> 
> Read more comments:
> 
> 'How the White House's Deal With Big Pharma 
> Undermines Democracy'
> Posted by Robert Reich  
> http://tinyurl.com/ngqhkn
> 
> AUSTIN - Hundreds of people lined the stairs 
> of the state capitol on Sunday afternoon to 
> rally against President Obama's health care 
> plan...
> 
> Read more:
> 
> 'Hundreds protest against Obama plan'
> http://tinyurl.com/mk2773
>
When exactly did Texas become such a Fascist State?
When did the Nazis take over the consciousness of the people, down there...
Do they put something in the water, or is it just that a lot of past life nazis 
were born there, or moved there, or what?
I really don't get Texas, and I wish,  the State of Texas, would be reclaimed 
by the Mexicans, and President Obama can approve, that Texas should be returned 
to Mexico, asap

r.g.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wise Latina

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:12 PM, scienceofabundance wrote:
> 
> > I very much like the way the phrase "Wise Latina" is being rapidly  
> > transformed from a "less than" phrase which was intended to "get"  
> > Judge Sotomayer during her Supreme Court hearings, to a phrase of  
> > which Latinas can be proud.
> >
> > One of the initiators of this campaign is a Latina Federal judge in  
> > NY and her campaign is gaining extremely rapid strength.
> >
> > You go!!
> 
> I should make my own T-Shirt:
> 
> Wise Latina
> Lover
> 
> I'm sure that'd get some attention!
> (well, one hopes) :-)
>
Se, amigo...mucho bueno idea, se?
One would hope as one gets older, one would also get wiser...as this would be 
necessary in order to keep the Wise Latina, interested in you, rather than the 
Bull Fighter, in Arena of Life...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

I'm sorry to say Marek, but I feel illusion of a philosophia perennis  
as a continuing thread of generic gnosis, same-awakening, across time,  
as some universal spiritual awakening (for different human-folk) to be  
totally imaginary and anti-inner-anthemic. It goes against the grain  
of the fact that we're all unique, each holding his/her own mythos,  
our own Rig Ved (but not a synthetic thought-plane projection of our  
imaginings of 'that').


On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:


The Perennial Philosophy in practice.

**

[FairfieldLife] 'Clinton's Pick-up Line...'

 Top 
Secret...recently de-classified

This was President Bill Clinton's pick-u[p] line...

After taking a High School trip to visit President John F. Kennedy...
At the White House, when Bill was only 16...
He was in some political club, and was there on a trip, 
With lot's of other club members, from around the country...

Bill pulled a photographer aside,
And asked him, to snap a picture,
When he shook President Kennedy's hand...
In that now famous picture...

On arriving back home, in his beloved Hot Springs, Arkansas...
He used the phrase...
Hello, how are you?
Would you like to shake the hand of the man who shook President Kennedy's 
hand...
Then he would lightly hold her hand, while giving that animal Clinton look...
Like [you are the only girl] in the whole world
Oh, my...
Lions, and Tigers, and Bears...
Oh, My!

r.g...

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not about Bill

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> KINSHASA, Congo  Hillary Clinton has a message for the world: It's not all 
> about Bill.
> 
> The secretary of state bristled Monday when  as she heard it  a Congolese 
> university student asked what her husband thought about an international 
> financial matter.
> 
> She hadn't traveled to Africa to talk about her husband the ex-president. But 
> even there, she couldn't escape his outsized shadow.
> 
> She abruptly reclaimed the stage for herself.
> 
> "My husband is not secretary of state, I am," she snapped. "I am not going to 
> be channeling my husband."
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/lbu7uq
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090810/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/af_clinton_i_m_secretary
>
Ya, know, I think she was just pissed off at Hubby Bill again, 'cause his 
birthday was yesterday, and he had a big party in Vegas...
And Hillary probaly picked up some 'Vegas Vibe'...
Like I'll bet that 'Idiot Husband of Mine'...is at his old shannigans agains..
Well you can take the 'Billy out of the Hills'
But, apparently it's harder to take the Hill out of Billy!
Oh, well, such are the delites of fame and fortune...

R.g.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

The Perennial Philosophy in practice.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
> 
> > Just today, as I was passing through security at the courthouse, I  
> > overheard one of the bailiffs use the phrase ". . . it was like that  
> > was her mantra or something . . . " This bailiff was unlikely to  
> > have ever done mantra meditation, and equally unlikely that the two  
> > security guards had either, but the word "mantra" was a term they  
> > were all familiar with. TM and its popularity injected the term into  
> > the common vernacular.
> >
> > That's pretty cool.
> 
> 
> I feel it definitely seeded the collective consciousness, esp. with  
> the Four Avatars -- John, Paul, George and Ringo--to share their love-- 
> and spread the seed naturally throughout the collective web they wove  
> and expanded with their music. Johnny Appleseeds.
> 
> Sri Sri Ravi Shankar seems to carrying on the original smile of TM. So  
> it moves on and evolves. Even more popular.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise Latina



On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:12 PM, scienceofabundance wrote:

I very much like the way the phrase "Wise Latina" is being rapidly  
transformed from a "less than" phrase which was intended to "get"  
Judge Sotomayer during her Supreme Court hearings, to a phrase of  
which Latinas can be proud.


One of the initiators of this campaign is a Latina Federal judge in  
NY and her campaign is gaining extremely rapid strength.


You go!!


I should make my own T-Shirt:

Wise Latina
Lover

I'm sure that'd get some attention!
(well, one hopes) :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation



On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:

Just today, as I was passing through security at the courthouse, I  
overheard one of the bailiffs use the phrase ". . . it was like that  
was her mantra or something . . . " This bailiff was unlikely to  
have ever done mantra meditation, and equally unlikely that the two  
security guards had either, but the word "mantra" was a term they  
were all familiar with. TM and its popularity injected the term into  
the common vernacular.


That's pretty cool.



I feel it definitely seeded the collective consciousness, esp. with  
the Four Avatars -- John, Paul, George and Ringo--to share their love-- 
and spread the seed naturally throughout the collective web they wove  
and expanded with their music. Johnny Appleseeds.


Sri Sri Ravi Shankar seems to carrying on the original smile of TM. So  
it moves on and evolves. Even more popular.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

Just today, as I was passing through security at the courthouse, I overheard 
one of the bailiffs use the phrase ". . . it was like that was her mantra or 
something . . . "  This bailiff was unlikely to have ever done mantra 
meditation, and equally unlikely that the two security guards had either, but 
the word "mantra" was a term they were all familiar with.  TM and its 
popularity injected the term into the common vernacular.

That's pretty cool.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
> 
> > I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi  
> > was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a  
> > twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right  
> > message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for  
> > some reason, primed for both.
> 
> Well, let's not forget he also actually got people interested in doing  
> weekend, week-long and month-long retreats. Asanas and some pranayama.  
> Cool folks to hang with. That's one of his greatest achievements in my  
> opinion--but the emphasis of regular, core practice was his hallmark  
> which he seeded to the masses, whether they even meditated or not. It  
> became a worldwide theme because of his impeccable marketing  
> management. And that may end up being the greatest significance of MMY  
> for the future.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation



On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:

I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi  
was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a  
twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right  
message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for  
some reason, primed for both.


Well, let's not forget he also actually got people interested in doing  
weekend, week-long and month-long retreats. Asanas and some pranayama.  
Cool folks to hang with. That's one of his greatest achievements in my  
opinion--but the emphasis of regular, core practice was his hallmark  
which he seeded to the masses, whether they even meditated or not. It  
became a worldwide theme because of his impeccable marketing  
management. And that may end up being the greatest significance of MMY  
for the future.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:05 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> An alternative to Transcendental Meditation
>
> August 10, 6:29 PMï¿¼Phoenix Alternative Religions Examinerï¿¼Wayne
> Purdin
>

Interesting market positioning. Now comes,

Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation.

Give this to a real business school as a mass market project:

Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package.
Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to
exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version.
The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation.
The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and  
meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to  
relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation  
incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or  
veterans service benefit plans.

Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version.
Broaden it out now.
Alternative Transcendental Meditation:
A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.

OK, you piqued my interest. What would the Bloomingdale, Eddie Bauer &  
L.L. Bean versions of packaged silence look like!?

Different from a Verma, Srivistava & Sons with a Brahmananda twist?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi was able to 
direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a twice daily basis, to 
boot.  But I think that it was just the right message and medium for the time 
and for the people who were, for some reason, primed for both.  

To whatever degree Maharishi's initial mission trajectory may have wavered in 
the latter part of his life (if it did at all), he came from an authentic and 
sincere background.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote:
> 
> > Give this to a real business school as a mass market project:
> 
> Health food stores typically have alternative 
> newspapers that list alternative and complementary 
> health care services. I used to look at these lists 
> regularly. I was looking to see what was being 
> offered by way of meditation instruction. Nothing 
> ever was. Nobody ever offered to teach people how 
> to meditate. I got the impression nobody cared to 
> learn meditation. Which makes Maharishi's achievement 
> that much more remarkable, I guess.
> 
> > 
> > Interesting market positioning.  Now comes,
> > 
> > Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation.
> > 
> > Give this to a real business school as a mass market project:
> > 
> > Craft promotions to segments.   The  Saks 5th Ave package.
> > Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer,  LLBean,  From health and beauty to 
> > exploring the inner silence of nature.  The Chicken Soup book version.
> > The Walmart store packaged version.  Bikers stop for meditation.
> > The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package.  Hot Rods and 
> > meditation.  Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve 
> > eye-strain.  Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive 
> > package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit 
> > plans. 
> > Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version.
> > Broaden it out now.
> > Alternative Transcendental Meditation:
> > A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.
>

[FairfieldLife] Wise Latina

I very much like the way the phrase "Wise Latina" is being rapidly transformed 
from a "less than" phrase which was intended to "get" Judge Sotomayer during 
her Supreme Court hearings, to a phrase of which Latinas can be proud. 

One of the initiators of this campaign is a Latina Federal judge in NY and her 
campaign is gaining extremely rapid strength. 

You go!!

[FairfieldLife] This is What a Feminist Looks Like

2009-08-11 Thread raunchydog





U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton toured an African refugee
camp Tuesday crowded with victims of violence and malnutrition, pledging
$17 million in American aid to help stem the tide of rampant sexual
abuse that has staggered war-ravaged eastern Congo.
This is what a feminist looks like
  Posted on August 11, 2009 by myiq2xu
  [hillaryclintonafrcia2460x276]



>From the New York Times
 :

Clinton's voice cracked with emotion as she described an epidemic of
rapes that has convulsed the Congo over 10 years of internecine
conflict. "We say to the world that those who attack civilian
populations using systematic rape are guilty of crimes against
humanity," she said.

Clinton toured Magunga Camp, a dust-choked warren of tents and tin-lined
huts in eastern Congo that is home to 18,000 men, women and children.
Most were uprooted from their villages by the on-again, off-again
conflict between Democratic Republic of Congo troops and rebel forces
that killed more than 5 million people since 1998.

"We believe there should be no impunity for the sexual and
gender-based violence committed by so many  that there must be
arrests and prosecutions and punishment," she said during a press
conference with Congolese Foreign Minister Alexis Thambwe Mwamba in the
eastern city of Goma.


The Guardian
 
adds:

Clinton urged university students in the Congolese capital, Kinshasa, to
mount a campaign against such abuses.

"The entire society needs to be speaking out against this," she
said. "It should be a mark of shame anywhere, in any country.




The media, of course, would rather talk about really important stuff,
like what a mad b**ch
  she is.




  [Hillary in Africa] Hillary in Africa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

I totally agree. He has lasted so long because TBs believed that MMY supported 
him.  He would not last a week in the real world. He has "power" from 
association and very little self-power.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91  wrote:
>
> 
> > But underneath it all, I have always seen great weakness - the classic 
> > bully syndrome.  Am I the only one? Lots of FFL members mention truthfully 
> > (as I have also seen) his "assholeness", but I have always thought of him 
> > as being a very weak person.
> >
> 
> Mmmm. I'd say he was "weak" in the sense that he's got no real ideas of his 
> own. He can only iterate over (and over and over) what other people have 
> said. The only ideas he comes up with are things like "I know let's pay money 
> to bankrupt people who disagree with us with legal bills" Not a sign of the 
> most incisive or perceptive intellect is it?
> 
> He's an enforcer, a classic bully who rises through the ranks of an 
> organization as it treads the path to fascism. People fear him but no one 
> likes him. He's has little or no support in the ranks other than from the 
> terminally simple minded. If the TMO moves away from fear based 
> administration he'll be left behind.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

I agree with what you say about Hagelin, but Tony Nader is intellectually very 
capable.  He has both an MD and PhD from reputable institutions (one at least, 
possibly both, from The American University in Beirut, Lebanon which his is 
country of origin. 

I knew him many, many years and MMY had him marked out as someone MMY was very 
interested in "grooming" as soon as he finished his MD/PhD*.  One piece of data 
that I just recall which supports that: MMY arranged a TTC Phase 3 for Tony and 
just one other person. About two months  later, a regular (i.e. sufficient 
numbers of students) TTC began, and Tony and the other guy joined the newer one 
hearing the first two months of tapes over again. 

*Some people may remember that Tony then got a post-doctoral fellowship of some 
kind at Harvard and made the university _very_ unhappy when he attempted to 
have readers of some of his work  believe that Harvard supported some of his 
ideas. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91  wrote:
>
>  
> > [Although, FWIW, I would not at all be surprised if Hagelin bailed one of 
> > these days. Of the three (Hagelin, Morris, Ram), I think he is the  only 
> > one with the strength to do so and definitely the only one with any chance 
> > of making it in the real world.  Given the culture Ram comes from, if he 
> > prostrates himself again and again and again(something he should  be 
> > used to by now) before his family and if they have money, he would be 
> > covered, I guess.]
> >
> Hagelin is an interesting case. I think there is some part of him which is 
> dimly aware that he's spouting junk. All that time with proper scientists and 
> having to do hard calculations must have left an impression somewhere. He's 
> the one who has to work hardest to keep himself convinced of what he's saying 
> because he does have the intelligence and the training to work out that it's 
> garbage. The others, Bevan and Tony, don't have the intellect to appreciate 
> fine points of reason and logic.
> 
> Hagelin keeps himself convinced by making lots of speeches to people who know 
> little or nothing about science and getting plenty of adulation from the 
> credulous. "All these people think I'm wonderful therefore I must be right" 
> is the rather distorted reasoning going on there. If he withdrew from the 
> adoring crowds and sat down with a pencil and paper to work things out he 
> might start having doubts
> 
> Of the other characters, Tony is quite a mild mannered person, even if he 
> doesn't have the training and natural aptitude to spot that his ideas are 
> garbage, he does at least have the temperament to stop the wilder nutjobs at 
> Vlodrop getting too far out of sync with reality. Seeing as he wears a crown 
> and issues "decrees" that's a relative thing only by comparison with people 
> like Schiffgens, Konhaus and  Morris who really are out of it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Clinton Derangement Syndrome

2009-08-11 Thread raunchydog

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> Video:
> http://tinyurl.com/kohy3s
> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/lost-in-translation-clinton-says-she-not-bill-is-the-secretary-of-state.html
>

"This appears to be the new CDS meme  "Hillary is a mad b**ch." They used to 
say she was "cold and calculating" but now she's out of control. Exactly how do 
they think she should have responded to the "What does your husband thnk?" 
question coming from the translator?

As for the Big Dawg stealing Hillary's thunder that is complete and utter 
horseshit. Bill flew to North Korea on a humanitarian mission approved by 
Hillary and the White House. If Hillary didn't want him to go he would not have 
gotten on the plane.

He flew over there, waved to the cameras, sat for some pictures, welcomed Laura 
Ling and Euna Lee when they got on the plane, flew home, smiled and waved to 
the cameras when they arrived and never said a word.  The only people saying 
anything bad about the trip are the Clinton haters.  As far as they're 
concerned the Big Dawg could have grabbed Little Kim by the scruff of the neck 
and made him agree to get rid of their nukes and hold democratic elections and 
it still wouldn't be good enough.

Until yesterday Hillary's trip to Africa has been mostly ignored by the major 
media  but not because of Bill. Do you see any mention in the report from 
Political Punch about sexual violence? Here's what Hillary is doing in Africa:

Speaking at a public forum in Nairobi, Kenya, Secretary Clinton previewed 
her upcoming stop in the eastern DRC city of Goma by saying she will use the 
occasion to denounce violence against women in the conflict area.

"I'll be in Goma. And I will be there primarily to speak out against the 
unspeakable violence against women and girls in eastern Congo. It is the worst 
example of man's inhumanity to women," she said.

Hillary is trying to do something about the rape and murder of women in Africa 
 and the media focuses on her reaction to a mistranslated question about trade 
with China.  As Violet Socks said:

I know if I'd just spent a day or two listening to mind-bogglingly horrific 
accounts of gang rape, I would be ready to beat the shit out of the next guy 
who said boo. I'd be all, fuck with me now, flipper. Bring it the fuck on.

One last thing  as Obamacare is spiraling and about to go down the drain guess 
what the Failbots are talking about?

Hillarycare."

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/cds-never-dies/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama comes out swinging today for Health Insurance Reform

2009-08-11 Thread raunchydog

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Someone suggested today on one of my listservs that President Obama ought to 
> be campaigning as hard for health-care reform as he did for his election. I 
> don't know if that's a fair shot, but you have to say, after watching his 
> performance today in New Hampshire at the town hall meeting on health care, 
> they may have a point: He was electric, charming, persuasive, and powerful.
> 
> ~~ David Neiwert 
> 
> 
> "Where we do disagree, let's disagree over things that are real, not these 
> wild misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to anything that's actually 
> been proposed."
> 
> ~~ President Obama
> 
>
> Watch Obama here: 
> http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/obama-personalizes-humanizes-health
>

Complete Transcript:

http://tinyurl.com/nmch2h
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/08/obama-healthcare-transcript-new-hampshire.html

Behind Closed Doors
by Dan Froomkin

"Despite an abundance of public remarks, Obama's actual strategy to achieve 
health-care reform still remains largely cloaked in secrecy. While the media's 
focus has been on the unseemly public wrangling in Congress, the White House 
has been doing two things: 1) Trying to influence legislators behind closed 
doors and 2) Making deals with industry leaders behind closed doors.

And disturbingly, the crucial endgame will apparently be played behind closed 
doors, as well. In a conference call with bloggers last month, Obama 
anticipated that the bills that eventually emerge from the House and Senate 
will, even then, still leave the most controversial issues basically undecided."

Read More:
http://tinyurl.com/lep8xp
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/our-fuzzy-president-is-ab_n_255524.html

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

2009-08-11 Thread Patrick Gillam

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote:

> Give this to a real business school as a mass market project:

Health food stores typically have alternative 
newspapers that list alternative and complementary 
health care services. I used to look at these lists 
regularly. I was looking to see what was being 
offered by way of meditation instruction. Nothing 
ever was. Nobody ever offered to teach people how 
to meditate. I got the impression nobody cared to 
learn meditation. Which makes Maharishi's achievement 
that much more remarkable, I guess.

> 
> Interesting market positioning.  Now comes,
> 
> Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation.
> 
> Give this to a real business school as a mass market project:
> 
> Craft promotions to segments.   The  Saks 5th Ave package.
> Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer,  LLBean,  From health and beauty to 
> exploring the inner silence of nature.  The Chicken Soup book version.
> The Walmart store packaged version.  Bikers stop for meditation.
> The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package.  Hot Rods and meditation. 
>  Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain.  
> Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts 
> of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. 
> Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version.
> Broaden it out now.
> Alternative Transcendental Meditation:
> A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.

[FairfieldLife] Recent in the Obamas health reform will kill people news



Investor's Business Daily  which poses as a reputable source of financial 
information  opines that:

People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't 
have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health 
Service would say the life of this brilliant man, 
because of his physical handicaps, is essentially 
worthless.

That would be Stephen Hawking, British professor, who was born in the UK and 
has lived there for his whole life.

~~ Paul Krugman
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/broken-tubes/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin


> But underneath it all, I have always seen great weakness - the classic bully 
> syndrome.  Am I the only one? Lots of FFL members mention truthfully (as I 
> have also seen) his "assholeness", but I have always thought of him as being 
> a very weak person.
>

Mmmm. I'd say he was "weak" in the sense that he's got no real ideas of his 
own. He can only iterate over (and over and over) what other people have said. 
The only ideas he comes up with are things like "I know let's pay money to 
bankrupt people who disagree with us with legal bills" Not a sign of the most 
incisive or perceptive intellect is it?

He's an enforcer, a classic bully who rises through the ranks of an 
organization as it treads the path to fascism. People fear him but no one likes 
him. He's has little or no support in the ranks other than from the terminally 
simple minded. If the TMO moves away from fear based administration he'll be 
left behind.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

2009-08-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> An alternative to Transcendental Meditation
> 
> August 10, 6:29 PMï¿¼Phoenix Alternative Religions Examinerï¿¼Wayne  
> Purdin
> 

Interesting market positioning.  Now comes,

Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation.

Give this to a real business school as a mass market project:

Craft promotions to segments.   The  Saks 5th Ave package.
Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer,  LLBean,  From health and beauty to 
exploring the inner silence of nature.  The Chicken Soup book version.
The Walmart store packaged version.  Bikers stop for meditation.
The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package.  Hot Rods and meditation.  
Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain.  Cut 
the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the 
stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. 
Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version.
Broaden it out now.
Alternative Transcendental Meditation:
A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.  




> 
>   NSR Inc. Founder David Spector
> 
> 
> Some readers think that I am a proponent of Transcendental  
> Meditation. And I've received email from TMers accusing me of putting  
> TM in a bad light by allowing negative comments about it. They're  
> both wrong. I am an objective reporter. In this article I will  
> objectively report on an alternative to TM, called Natural Stress  
> Relief (NSR).
> 
> You might ask, if TM is so great why do we need an alternative?
> 
> Unfortunately, TM has developed several aspects that prevent many  
> people from being able to learn. Its course fee has become  
> prohibitively high ($1500.00 for adults, $750 for students and $375  
> for children under 18), and it includes nonessential elements that  
> many find to be religious or mystical, and therefore objectionable to  
> some people. The need for an alternative was clear, and a nonprofit  
> group in Italy called Istituto Scientia, led by physics researcher  
> Fabrizio Coppola, got together in the late 1990's to develop a  
> comparable technique that did not have these objectional aspects. By  
> 2003, Istituto Scientia was offering their own course, called la  
> Tecnica Naturale Anti-Stress (TNAS) in Italian, and Natural Stress  
> Relief in English.
> 
> In 2006 David Spector, a former TM teacher, was inspired to help.  
> David founded Natural Stress Relief, Inc., an independent nonprofit  
> corporation, to produce and distribute the NSR learning materials in  
> hardcopy and CDs throughout the world in cooperation with Istituto  
> Scientia. Since 2006 nearly one thousand individuals have learned NSR  
> Meditation through NSR
> Meditation/USA.
> 
> I recently talked with David about NSR and this is what he had to say:
> 
> Q. Doesn't NSR violate copyright law? Aren't you guilty of plaigarism?
> 
> A. We have copied no written or copyrighted TM material except for  
> very brief and attributed quotations from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the  
> founder of TM.
> 
> Q. When I became a TM teacher, I had to sign a legal document  
> promising not to teach it outside of the TMO. How did you get around  
> this?
> 
> A: When I graduated from 8 months of teacher training in residence  
> with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1972, our group was asked orally not to  
> teach TM outside of Maharishi's organizations, and I have not done  
> so. My last TM teaching was done in 1974. I was also asked not to  
> reveal that pledge, but
> you did ask a direct question and I believe that only an honest  
> answer is ethical.
> 
> Maharishi was certainly very concerned (as am I) about what he liked  
> to call "the purity of the teaching", but he was at the same time  
> supportive (at least in the early 1970s) of people teaching the  
> simple, natural, effortless, and effective technique of transcending  
> to as many people as
> possible. He taught us that this knowledge is no one's property but  
> that it comes to us from the long and freely available Vedic  
> tradition passed from teacher to student in India. He said we should  
> enlighten the world, whether we called it TM and worked through his  
> organizations or whether we called it something else and worked  
> independently of his organizations.
> 
> An early example was Deepak Chopra, a disciple of Maharishi who  
> decided to form his own organization and teach his own techniques  
> based on the same Vedic tradition of effortless enlightenment.  
> Maharishi reluctantly approved his doing so and Deepak is still  
> helping the world today. Another example is the Advaita Meditation  
> organization, which is teaching mantra meditation independently with  
> the blessing of the current leader of that Vedic tradition in South  
> India at Sringeri (Maharishi was a disciple of the leader of the same  
> tradition in the north of India at Jyotir Math).
> 
> Q. What do you say to critics who

[FairfieldLife] Obama comes out swinging today for Health Insurance Reform



Someone suggested today on one of my listservs that President Obama ought to be 
campaigning as hard for health-care reform as he did for his election. I don't 
know if that's a fair shot, but you have to say, after watching his performance 
today in New Hampshire at the town hall meeting on health care, they may have a 
point: He was electric, charming, persuasive, and powerful.

~~ David Neiwert 


"Where we do disagree, let's disagree over things that are real, not these wild 
misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to anything that's actually been 
proposed."

~~ President Obama


Watch Obama here: 
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/obama-personalizes-humanizes-health

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Recent Health care Experience


I hope you send this out to media and politicians. It seems very common
in America. This lack of coverage would never have happened in Britain
where I am from. Everyone if covered, even foreigners. The question
never arises. The system is not perfect in UK, because they try to care
for eveyone - which is harder - but it still works really well. And the
lies right-wingers here in the US spread about "rationing care" is BS.
There is MORE care in Britain than here in the US. And all it costs is a
very small percentage off your paycheck. Most people don't even notice
the charge. And there are plenty private hospitals in Britain if you
want to go private, and private insurance providers if you want that.

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "martyboi" 
wrote:
>
> Well here's what my family's been  through as far as health care goes,
I think it's fairly typical.
>
> In March my 53 year old sister came down with multiple sclerosis (MS).
On one Friday night she went to bed feeling fine, on Saturday morning
her legs and left arm were no longer functioning correctly. She thought
she was having a stroke, so she went to the emergency room. They decided
she was having "trans ischemic attacks" and they sent her home. She got
worse and went back to the hospital the next day.
>
> They decided to do more tests. These included lots of blood work, MRI
etc. Still no diagnosis and they sent her home. She got "worser."  So
she went back and they did a spinal tap and other tests. Finally, four
weeks later she got her diagnosis  the delay in diagnosis caused a
delay in treatment with high power steroids which are known for greatly
reducing flairs and limiting damage from MS. The doctor, a recent
graduate, "just didn't feel comfortable" making an MS diagnosis.
>
> Now comes the good part. The insurance company decided that nobody can
just come down with MS, so she must have had a pre-existing condition
 therefore  she, they said, was entirely responsible for the
$120, 000 in medical test. Their rationale was that since she had only
been under that plan for nine months or so, she must have had MS brewing
inside much longer, therefore, they weren't gonna pay.
>
> So, my sister, who is still quite resourceful  - even with the severe
cognitive impairments caused by MS - had to call every health care
insurer she has ever had with every employer she had ever had, and have
them fax all her insurance records to the current insurer. After that,
they decided to pay. I believe they thought she was just too impaired to
fight back.
>
> The next little treat is the private disability insurance. After
"proving" she was disabled by getting certified by three separate
doctors mind you this is a women who cannot walk or lift her left
arm  they decided to pay her. So the formula was 60% of  the
average of the last two years's salary excluding overtime and bonuses.
They told her she was eligible for $1800 dollars a month and she had
better apply for early social security within three months or they would
cut her off. That's $1800 for room and board, food, medicine and medical
bills. One of her prescriptions is $50,000 dollars a year btw.  As a
result of that mix-up she has not paid her mortgage since April and her
home is already gone.
>
> When my eighty-six year old dad looked at her paperwork, he instantly
realized they were only giving her 40% of her salary. So, their
brilliant accountant with all their computers just could get that
calculation right? Now, they have said that they cannot fix this problem
until next November.
>
> In the meantime  her disability insurer is threatening to cut her
off if she doesn't get her Social Security started. The average wait
time to get early SSI is 2.5 years.
>
> When I see these people on TV screaming about "ObamaCare", I think
they must not have ever had to deal with a private insurer. The word
"evil" comes to mind. The entire system is very, very broken.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

 
> [Although, FWIW, I would not at all be surprised if Hagelin bailed one of 
> these days. Of the three (Hagelin, Morris, Ram), I think he is the  only one 
> with the strength to do so and definitely the only one with any chance of 
> making it in the real world.  Given the culture Ram comes from, if he 
> prostrates himself again and again and again(something he should  be used 
> to by now) before his family and if they have money, he would be covered, I 
> guess.]
>
Hagelin is an interesting case. I think there is some part of him which is 
dimly aware that he's spouting junk. All that time with proper scientists and 
having to do hard calculations must have left an impression somewhere. He's the 
one who has to work hardest to keep himself convinced of what he's saying 
because he does have the intelligence and the training to work out that it's 
garbage. The others, Bevan and Tony, don't have the intellect to appreciate 
fine points of reason and logic.

Hagelin keeps himself convinced by making lots of speeches to people who know 
little or nothing about science and getting plenty of adulation from the 
credulous. "All these people think I'm wonderful therefore I must be right" is 
the rather distorted reasoning going on there. If he withdrew from the adoring 
crowds and sat down with a pencil and paper to work things out he might start 
having doubts

Of the other characters, Tony is quite a mild mannered person, even if he 
doesn't have the training and natural aptitude to spot that his ideas are 
garbage, he does at least have the temperament to stop the wilder nutjobs at 
Vlodrop getting too far out of sync with reality. Seeing as he wears a crown 
and issues "decrees" that's a relative thing only by comparison with people 
like Schiffgens, Konhaus and  Morris who really are out of it.

[FairfieldLife] US Healthcare has been heavily Socialist for decades.


US Healthcare has been Socialist for decades. But the right-wing thinks
it is private.

US government is among the top ten highest spenders among UN countries.
THAT is why the US system survives. Without this government help, more
than half of your PRIVATE hospitals, and charity hospitals, would go
bankrupt. The new direction will make this socialist system in the US
more efficient, and going in a more beneficial direction for all.

Oh...and make no mistake, this bill will pass. The alternative is
bankruptcy for the country.

""Public spending accounts for between 45% and 56.1% of U.S. health care
spending.[41] Per-capita spending on health care by the U.S. government
placed it among the top ten highest spenders among United Nations member
countries in 2004.[42]""

""A 2003 study in Health Affairs estimated that uninsured people in the
U.S. received approximately $35 billion in uncompensated care in
2001.[60]...The study found that various levels of government finance
most uncompensated care, spending about $30.6 billion (in 2001) on
payments and programs to serve the uninsured and covering as much as
8085 percent of uncompensated care costs through grants and other
direct payments, tax appropriations, and Medicare and Medicaid payment
add-ons. Most of this money comes from the federal government, followed
by state and local tax appropriations for hospitals""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States#cite_note-\
content.healthaffairs.org-41


OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Recent Health care Experience

marty wrote:
> When I see these people on TV screaming about 
> "ObamaCare", I think they must not have ever 
> had to deal with a private insurer. The word 
> "evil" comes to mind. The entire system is 
> very, very broken.
>
"The White House, meanwhile, has decided, both 
in its legislative proposals and its rhetoric, 
to avoid the trickiest issues of long-term health 
care cost control, which will eventually have to 
involve, almost all experts agree, either 
government rationing of care, along the lines of 
private sector managed care, or huge new taxes 
to pay for the unsustainable cost increases..."

Read more:

'The New White House "Reality" Website'
By Anne Wexler
Time, August 10, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/mlc4u4

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow on the bogus claims of euthanasia and 'Death Panels'

John wrote:
> Maddow on the bogus claims of euthanasia 
> and 'Death Panels'...
>
So, you're opposed to a government health care system 
that pays for abortions. There is always a 'death panel', 
John, always will be, in a rationed health care system.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jon Stewart Takes On The Town Hall 'Crazies'

> > You need to get used to the facts, John. It is
> > a fact that SOMEBODY will decide when to pull
> > the plug on your Grandmother.
> >
Judy wrote:
> Yes, indeedy: *She* will, in an Advance Directive
> or Living Will that she'll decide on beforehand.
> 
> Which (as you know) has nothing to do with Sarah
> Palin's "death panel." There will be no such
> panel. She was lying.
>
You're going to have to do better than call us
liars and Nazis, Toots. You're not going to win
a debate by interjecting your personal politics 
into the health care debate - it won't work that 
way anymore.

There already is a panel that decides your health 
care, and who lives or who dies, it's called 
government Medicare. I believe Sarah Palin has hit 
the nail on the head. From what I have read and 
heard, Obama's Health care 'reform' will inevitably 
mean rationed care. 

Which will mean that someone or a group will decide 
who is eligible. There's always going to be a
panel - always going to be a government that 
decides, if it is a government run health care
system. There is now, there always will be a limit
to how long Granny can stay in the hospital if
she is on Medicare.

[FairfieldLife] The Party is Over!

What happened to the hope and the change? 

So, what really did happen to 'single payer' 
universal health care? What happened to health 
care 'universality'? 

What happened to the idea than we could lower 
the exploding costs of health care? What 
happened to the promise that Obama made that 
he wouldn't turn this over to the special 
interests pharmaceutical corporations? 

What happened and why did Obama turn his back 
on the Progressives? What happened to The 
Party?

"...when an industry gets secret concessions 
out of the White House in return for a promise 
to lend the industry's support to a key piece 
of legislation, we're in big trouble."

Read more comments:

'How the White House's Deal With Big Pharma 
Undermines Democracy'
Posted by Robert Reich  
http://tinyurl.com/ngqhkn

AUSTIN - Hundreds of people lined the stairs 
of the state capitol on Sunday afternoon to 
rally against President Obama's health care 
plan...

Read more:

'Hundreds protest against Obama plan'
http://tinyurl.com/mk2773

[FairfieldLife] Kill the bill!

What, you mean the government won't pay for
an abortion? This is just outrageous! What
kind of health care reform goes backward
instead of forward? And they want to throw
Grandma under the bus, ration her Oxy, and
cut her Medicare services. 

What happened to the idea of free 'universal 
health care'? You mean the millions of guest 
workers won't be even covered for basic 
services? 

And the Pharma got a secret deal so that 
medication costs can never be reduced? If so, 
then I'd say that we need to kill the bill. 

Better step back before the next election, 
because at this rate, Obama is dead in the 
water for a next term. This is August, and 
it's going to get really hot this summer.

"Despite what some protesters said, 'there 
will be no payment of taxpayer funds for 
abortion,' Dingell, 83, told the crowd..."

Read more:

'Tempers flare over health care plan'
By Patricia Anstett and Kathleen Gray
Detroit Free Press, August 7, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/nekjv2 

'Death Drugs Cause Uproar in Oregon'Death 
Drugs Cause Uproar in Oregon'
By Susan Donaldson James
ABC News, August 6, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/65nceu

[FairfieldLife] My Recent Health care Experience

2009-08-11 Thread martyboi

Well here's what my family's been  through as far as health care goes, I think 
it's fairly typical.

In March my 53 year old sister came down with multiple sclerosis (MS). On one 
Friday night she went to bed feeling fine, on Saturday morning her legs and 
left arm were no longer functioning correctly. She thought she was having a 
stroke, so she went to the emergency room. They decided she was having "trans 
ischemic attacks" and they sent her home. She got worse and went back to the 
hospital the next day. 

They decided to do more tests. These included lots of blood work, MRI etc. 
Still no diagnosis and they sent her home. She got "worser."  So she went back 
and they did a spinal tap and other tests. Finally, four weeks later she got 
her diagnosis  the delay in diagnosis caused a delay in treatment with high 
power steroids which are known for greatly reducing flairs and limiting damage 
from MS. The doctor, a recent graduate, "just didn't feel comfortable" making 
an MS diagnosis.

Now comes the good part. The insurance company decided that nobody can just 
come down with MS, so she must have had a pre-existing condition  therefore  
she, they said, was entirely responsible for the $120, 000 in medical test. 
Their rationale was that since she had only been under that plan for nine 
months or so, she must have had MS brewing inside much longer, therefore, they 
weren't gonna pay.

So, my sister, who is still quite resourceful  - even with the severe cognitive 
impairments caused by MS - had to call every health care insurer she has ever 
had with every employer she had ever had, and have them fax all her insurance 
records to the current insurer. After that, they decided to pay. I believe they 
thought she was just too impaired to fight back.

The next little treat is the private disability insurance. After "proving" she 
was disabled by getting certified by three separate doctors mind you this is a 
women who cannot walk or lift her left arm  they decided to pay her. So the 
formula was 60% of  the average of the last two years's salary excluding 
overtime and bonuses. They told her she was eligible for $1800 dollars a month 
and she had better apply for early social security within three months or they 
would cut her off. That's $1800 for room and board, food, medicine and medical 
bills. One of her prescriptions is $50,000 dollars a year btw.  As a result of 
that mix-up she has not paid her mortgage since April and her home is already 
gone.

When my eighty-six year old dad looked at her paperwork, he instantly realized 
they were only giving her 40% of her salary. So, their brilliant accountant 
with all their computers just could get that calculation right? Now, they have 
said that they cannot fix this problem until next November.

In the meantime  her disability insurer is threatening to cut her off if she 
doesn't get her Social Security started. The average wait time to get early SSI 
is 2.5 years.

When I see these people on TV screaming about "ObamaCare", I think they must 
not have ever had to deal with a private insurer. The word "evil" comes to 
mind. The entire system is very, very broken.

[FairfieldLife] Big Insurance gives awards for scariest lies about Health Care Reform




BIG  INSURANCE GIVES OUT AWARDS FOR SCARIEST LIES ABOUT HEALTH
CARE REFORM

"Since big government prohibits us from feeding Muslims to the lions,
what better way to keep people's eyes off the ball with a fun contest?"
--Ed Hanway, CEO of CIGNA





Satire by R J Shulman
BETHESDA, Maryland - (PTSD News) - Two heath insurance  giants
have announced the winners of their "Scare Health Care Reform 
to Death" contest. Starting in March, UnitedHealthcare and CIGNA
Health Insurance joined forces to create a contest that would award
prizes  to American citizens who came up with the scariest
talking points against  health care reform, slogans that would
most likely turn public opinion  against any changes to the
current system. Truth was not a requirement--in  fact, it was
discouraged for blocking the creative process.

"We had to distract  the public from the fact that a whopping
portion of America's wealth has  been flowing into a few big
insurance and pharmaceutical companies,"  said Stephen Hemsley,
CEO of UnitedHealthcare.

"We especially  wanted to keep them from finding out about my
bonus, my salary and my  stock options, said Ed Hanway, chairman
and CEO of CIGNA, "and since  big government prohibits us from
feeding Muslims to the lions, what better  way to keep people's
eyes off the ball with a fun contest?"

The response has been  decent, according to CIGNA , if a bit
derivative. "About 95% of the  entries said, 'it costs too much
taxpayer money' and included a tea bag,"  said Hanway.

The winners were announced  earlier today on "Fox and Friends."

Fifth place honors,  and the recipient of an "I Killed Health
Care Reform" button,  went to Frank Pharr of Henderson, North
Carolina. Mr. Pharr entered, "Kiss  your granny good-bye before
Obama's plan does."

Fourth place went  to Floydene Spangler of Big Spring, Texas,
who won a picture of Hanway's  $134 million dollar mansion on
the Jersey shore. She entered, "Obama's  heath care plan will
force you to give up your kidney to a Chinaman."

Third place was won  by Scott Lee Priestly of King of Prussia,
Pennsylvania, who said "Before  you can get any health care in
Obama's plan, you will have to convert  to being an A-Rab
Muslim." Mr. Priestly will receive $5 dollars off  his $1500
deductible on his health plan, but must cash it in before he 
gets canceled due to having a serious illness.

Second place was captured  by Paul Pope, of Tooele, Utah, who
won a chance to have one preexisting  condition excused before
he was canceled, unless the illness cost more  that $3,500. Paul
sent in a talking point that said, "Obama's health  care plan
will force your wife, girlfriend or daughter to be sold into 
slavery in Kenya."

The grand prize went  to Loulene Swift of Paradise Valley,
Arizona, who said, "Obama's  health care plan will ration health
care so only illegal gay immigrants  will get to see a doctor,
and these same gay illegals will be awarded  your house and your
guns." Ms. Swift won a free pass not to have  to wait in the
doctor's big waiting room before she is asked to wait in  the
doctor's small room. In other words, she gets to go directly to the
small room to wait.

The contest seems  to be working as the support for health care
reform has been steadily  falling.

11 Aug  2009
http://www.legitgov.org/shulman_insurance_awards_lies_110809.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The truth about health care reform

Rick Archer wrote:
> The truth: These accusations-of "death panels" and 
> forced euthanasia-are, of course, flatly untrue.
>
It is a fact that under Obama's plan there will be
rationing of medical care. There will always be a
rationing of medical care - that's what an insurance
medical system is. There is going to be a panel that
decides what is cost effective medical care, just like
they do now - it's a reform, Rick, not a new system. 

> The truth: With reform, choices will increase, not 
> decrease. 
>
For a single-payer system to work, everyone must join
- it will be a mandatory system. You can't opt out of 
a single-payer system. You can't have young people
opting out and choosing no insurance and letting the 
old people pay all the bills. You will not have a
a choice - you will join because the funds will be
automatically deducted from your bank account.

> Obama's reform plans will create a health insurance 
> exchange...
>
Screw your health insurance plan and screw all your
insurance companies, especially screw your government
insurance - they have been screwing you for years and
now you want to support an insurance company. We want
free, universal health care, Rick, not insurance.

> injecting competition into the market to drive 
> quality up and costs down.
>
There is not a single plan in the Obama bills that
would lower the cost of medical care. You can't give
'universal health care' without a cost increase, with
47 million additional people getting care that are not
presently getting it. You will never get costs down
if you accept everyone's pre-existing conditions.

The only way you are going to be able to lower costs 
is to get discount prescription medications, but Obama
made a secret deal with big Pharma that makes it 
ILLEGAL to buy cheap drugs from Mexico or Canada. 

> If you're happy with your coverage and doctors, you 
> can keep them.
> 
On a single-payer system, you will have no choice - 
everyone must pay into the system, so that everyone 
gets medical care. Nobody gets left behind - everyone 
gets care, everyone gets taken care of. Everyone will 
have to show proof of medical insurance, just like 
auto liability insurance.

> millions of businesses or individuals who choose to 
> opt into it, including many who simply can't afford 
> health care now. 
>
You forgot about the guest workers - you can't have a
health care system unless you include EVERYONE who 
needs medical care. Obama doesn't have a plan for 
immigration reform until 2013, so millions of people 
living and wotking in the U.S. will have no choice 
until a single-payer system is implemented. Everyone 
will pay in, and everyone is covered.

> discrimination for pre-existing conditions, insurers 
> that cancel coverage when you get sick, gender 
> discrimination, and lifetime and yearly limits on 
> coverage.
>
There is always going to be rationing, Rick, just like
there is now. There is a limit to how much the U.S. 
public will pay. When you start taxing the workers 
over 50% of their paycheck, there is going to be a 
riot and a tea party like you've never seen. 

> Health care reform plans will not reduce Medicare 
> benefits.
>
A single-payer system will replace Medicare, so it 
will be reduced to nothing. You can't have a universal 
health care system if you discriminate against older 
people - it just doesn't work like that, Rick. 
Everyone will get equal care in a democratic, free, 
universal health care system.

> We need health care reform now in order to prevent 
> bankruptcy-to control spiraling costs...
>
The country is already bankrupt - there is no gold in
Fort Knox. All you've got is a trillion plus deficit 
and paper money your print. You're fighting three wars, 
and buying everyone new cars and jet planes for your 
elected leaders. Your government cannot balance a 
check book. 

> Reform, with an affordable, high-quality public 
> option that can spur competition, is necessary to 
> bring down skyrocketing costs.
>
You just don't get it, Rick. Universal medical care 
should be free and available to all, in a single-payer 
system. You make one small payment and you get taken 
care of, for life. The only way you are going to bring 
down costs is to outlaw medical insurance companies 
and provide discount medications. 


> We need to make sure the truth about health care 
> reform is spread far and wide to combat right wing 
> lies.
>
You're not going to convince the older people to back 
your plan when you call them liars and Nazis. Just tell 
the truth, Rick, and leave the politics out of it. All 
you understand is left and right political propaganda.

The truth is, you don't really have a plan, you haven't 
read the 1 page bill, you probably don't even have 
any health insurance. And, if you do, you probably 
don't even understand it. 

> Check out this great new White House "Reality Check"
> 
Do a reality check, Rick: Obama is NOT in favor of a 
single-payer system. 

He is for reform of the curren

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jon Stewart Takes On The Town Hall 'Crazies'

2009-08-11 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
>
> John wrote:
> > ...the "death panel" debate.
> > 
> You can only use Sarah Palin as your whipping 
> post for so long, John. Perhaps you should 
> consider holding all politicians to the same 
> standard of truth as you do Sarah Palin.
> 
> The fact is, medical care reform WILL include 
> cost controls. It is a fact that Obama is FOR 
> a single-payer system.

But that isn't what he's trying to pass, so it's
irrelevant.

> A single-payer system in fact RATIONS care.

But that isn't what he's trying to pass, so it's
irrelevant.

And in any case, we already *have* a system that
rations care.

 A government board WILL 
> decide what is and isn't efficient based on 
> the facts.

It'll decide what's *effective* based on the
facts.

Which (as you know) has nothing to do with Sarah
Palin's "death panel." There will be no such
panel. She was lying.

> You need to get used to the facts, John. It is
> a fact that SOMEBODY will decide when to pull
> the plug on your Grandmother.

Yes, indeedy: *She* will, in an Advance Directive
or Living Will that she'll decide on beforehand.

Which (as you know) has nothing to do with Sarah
Palin's "death panel." There will be no such
panel. She was lying.

[FairfieldLife] Maddow on the bogus claims of euthanasia and 'Death Panels'



Rachel exposes more nonsense from the Health Care Reform fear merchants

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TUbcdnfxbU

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jon Stewart Takes On The Town Hall 'Crazies'

John wrote:
> ...the "death panel" debate.
> 
You can only use Sarah Palin as your whipping 
post for so long, John. Perhaps you should 
consider holding all politicians to the same 
standard of truth as you do Sarah Palin.

The fact is, medical care reform WILL include 
cost controls. It is a fact that Obama is FOR 
a single-payer system. A single-payer system 
in fact RATIONS care. A government board WILL 
decide what is and isn't efficient based on 
the facts. 

You need to get used to the facts, John. It is
a fact that SOMEBODY will decide when to pull
the plug on your Grandmother.

"He also points out a trade-off between providing 
a basic level of coverage for all and providing 
the opportunity for anyone with some coverage to 
get every possible benefit, treatment and 
procedure..."

Read more:

'Zeke Emanuel, The Death Panels, And Illogic In Politics'
Posted by Marc Ambinder
The Atlantic, August 11, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/r386sl

[FairfieldLife] Re: WOFFL 4 -- Seek Knowledge, Not Gurus

TurquoiseB wrote:
> The south of France at this time of year is awash with
> seekers of one sort or another, especially in the area
> I'm in. You've gotcher Cathar seekers...
>
"Twelfth-century enemies of the Cathars believed their 
rites included ritually kissing the anus of a cat, in 
which form Lucifer was said to appear. Toward the end 
of the twelfth-century, the Cathars were also slandered 
by the term bougre, from 'Bulgaria,' known to be the 
source of their heresy. Later the word came to mean 
'sodomite' and is the root of the British slang bugger 
and buggery" (193).

Source:

"The Templars and the Assasins"
by James Wasserman
Inner Traditions, 2001 

Read more:

From: Willytex
Subject: Re: Question for Delia -- Catharism
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: September 10, 2003
http://tinyurl.com/m77kcp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Obama Punking Us?

2009-08-11 Thread BillyG.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
>
> raunchydog wrote:
> > "The larger fear is that Obama might be just 
> > another corporatist, punking voters much as 
> > the Republicans do when they claim to be all 
> > for the common guy."
> > 
> > Read more:
> > http://tinyurl.com/mktayb
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/opinion/09rich.html
> >
> "Obama sought to dispel talk that his ultimate 
> goal is a single-payer federal health care system, 
> like that in countries such as Canada..." 
> 
> Read more:
> 
> 'Obama says health care critics use 'scare tactics''
> By Phillip Elliot
> Associated Press, August 11, 2009
> http://tinyurl.com/m57wxr

The man speak with fork'ed tongue

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Obama Punking Us?

raunchydog wrote:
> "The larger fear is that Obama might be just 
> another corporatist, punking voters much as 
> the Republicans do when they claim to be all 
> for the common guy."
> 
> Read more:
> http://tinyurl.com/mktayb
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/opinion/09rich.html
>
"Obama sought to dispel talk that his ultimate 
goal is a single-payer federal health care system, 
like that in countries such as Canada..." 

Read more:

'Obama says health care critics use 'scare tactics''
By Phillip Elliot
Associated Press, August 11, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/m57wxr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of guyfawkes91
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:52 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John
> Hagelin
>  
>   
> 
> > What would be better; the continuation of Kali Yuga or accepting Bevan as
> a fact ?
> >
> Bevan is the essence of Kali Yuga. He's the leader of the nutjob faction in
> Vlodrop. He's the main obstruction that's stopping the TMO move towards
> becoming more acceptable to the public and for people who have learned TM
> going on to become teachers. Tony Nader wanted to drop the prices so more
> people would learn and Bevan wouldn't allow it, though I hear that he's now
> been overruled. 
> 
> Whenever the movement has shown harshness or hardheartedness towards people,
> Bevan is there encouraging people towards more harshness. He is the driving
> force behind the plans to use legal teams to silence dissent. Wherever there
> has been dubious financial dealings Bevan is there. If you add up everything
> he's ever done you'll see that the sum total of Bevan's "achievements" has
> been to take all the social capital that the movement had in the late '70s
> and convert it into a lot of pompous long winded speeches that have no
> purpose other than to cement his authority. Everyone, rajas included, will
> breathe a sigh of relief when he breathes his last.
> 
> In a few years MUM will close because it can't get the staff. That is
> Bevan's doing.
> I've talked with a few MUM faculty who echo your sentiments about Bevan.
> They shudder when he comes around. He came into my classroom once when I was
> teaching there and it was like a dark cloud entered the room. No
> friendliness, looking around at everything with a grim, judgmental, pompous
> vibe.
>
But underneath it all, I have always seen great weakness - the classic bully 
syndrome.  Am I the only one? Lots of FFL members mention truthfully (as I have 
also seen) his "assholeness", but I have always thought of him as being a very 
weak person.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bishop Spong on getting to Heaven

Bishop Spong is one of  my favorite scholars of Christianity. Worth reading one 
of his books  for  anyone interested it Christianity.  

Not related to Bishop Spong's work, but it reminds me of it.  There has been a 
lot of scholarship over many years on how a small  band of Jesus followers 
(some say in the range of no more than 500 immediately after his death) gave 
rise to all  the Christianities we have today and over the past 2,000 years. 
Fascinating material, and one of the  principal reasons (if  not _the_ 
principal reason) was that Christianity became the state religion in Rome in 
about the 3rd or 4th century. 

The parallels I notice with MMY's approaches to spreading TM are fascinating.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> Donna Kaplan asks:
> 
> I have a question about the scripture passage from St. John's Gospel that you 
> quoted recently in one of your columns: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the 
> Life. No one comes to the Father but by me (meaning Jesus)." What about the 
> Jews?
> 
> Dear Donna,
> 
> There are several levels on which an answer to your question must be 
> contemplated:
> 
> Did Jesus actually say these words? I doubt it. They appear in the Fourth 
> Gospel, which was written 65-70 years after the death of Jesus. They are also 
> part of a series of "I Am" sayings, which appear nowhere except in John and 
> are regarded by most biblical scholars today as the words of the Christian 
> community that have been placed onto the lips of Jesus. They are clearly not 
> the words of the Jesus of history. The scholars in the Jesus Seminar regard 
> nothing in the Fourth Gospel, not a single one of the sayings attributed to 
> Jesus in that gospel, to be the authentic words of the Jesus of history. 
> Most of the Christians at the time that John's gospel was written were still 
> Jews. The Jews who were the followers of Jesus had just been expelled from 
> the Synagogue. The tensions between Revisionist Jews, who were also disciples 
> of Jesus, and the Orthodox Jews who controlled the Temple are in the 
> background of this gospel. 
> These words were certainly not meant to fuel an imperialistic missionary 
> campaign to convert Jews and others as they were interpreted by later 
> generations of Christians. The actual split between the Jews who were 
> disciples of Jesus and the Orthodox Party of traditional Jews did not occur 
> until almost 60 years after the crucifixion. That is, for the first 60 years 
> of Christian history, Christianity was itself a Jewish movement within in the 
> synagogue. 
> At this moment, I am reading Rudolf Bultmann's The Gospel of John: A 
> Commentary. He argues, persuasively I believe, that John portrays Jesus as 
> the logos enfleshed in human life, calling us all to a deeper sense of what 
> it means to be whole and human. To come to the God present in Jesus for John 
> was to discover the logos in each of us. That, argues Bultmann, is what Jesus 
> represented to the people of his day. It was that discovery, not some form of 
> doctrinal Christian belief or faith, that was for John the only doorway into 
> the ultimate reality we call God. That is quite different from saying that 
> only those that believe in what Christianity says about Jesus will enter the 
> Kingdom of Heaven. Recall that in Matthew's parable of the judgment (Mt. 
> chapter 25), Jesus says the criterion for eternal life is not what you 
> believe but how you respond to the presence of God in another human being, 
> especially those regarded as the least of our brothers and sisters. In that 
> parable neither the sheep nor the goats are ever asked what creed they say. 
> They are asked "did you see and respond to the presence of God in another 
> human being." It was the Epistle of John that states that if you cannot love 
> your neighbor whom you have seen, how can you expect to love God whom you 
> have not seen? 
> Those who quote John's gospel to validate their own exclusive religious 
> prejudices simply have no idea what John's Gospel is about. This Gospel does 
> not lend itself to proof texting. It is far too profound a work for that.
> 
>  John Shelby Spong
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
snip
> 
> What would be better; the continuation of Kali Yuga or accepting Bevan as a 
> fact ?
>
> Funny. Although it is clear what Nablusoss means, I am trying to think of 
> Bevan as a "fact".

Do you know Bevan Morris?

Oh, yes, sure - he's that fact in the TMO, isn't he?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

> > Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin
> > From: Invincible America 
> > 
> > 
> > "The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way."
> > - IA Course Participant
> > 
> > It's hard to argue with perfection.


In my experience, it's just as difficult to argue with TB bullsh*tters.

[Although, FWIW, I would not at all be surprised if Hagelin bailed one of these 
days. Of the three (Hagelin, Morris, Ram), I think he is the  only one with the 
strength to do so and definitely the only one with any chance of making it in 
the real world.  Given the culture Ram comes from, if he prostrates himself 
again and again and again(something he should  be used to by now) before 
his family and if they have money, he would be covered, I guess.]

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

2009-08-11 Thread Rick Archer

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of guyfawkes91
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:52 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John
Hagelin

> What would be better; the continuation of Kali Yuga or accepting Bevan as
a fact ?
>
Bevan is the essence of Kali Yuga. He's the leader of the nutjob faction in
Vlodrop. He's the main obstruction that's stopping the TMO move towards
becoming more acceptable to the public and for people who have learned TM
going on to become teachers. Tony Nader wanted to drop the prices so more
people would learn and Bevan wouldn't allow it, though I hear that he's now
been overruled. 

Whenever the movement has shown harshness or hardheartedness towards people,
Bevan is there encouraging people towards more harshness. He is the driving
force behind the plans to use legal teams to silence dissent. Wherever there
has been dubious financial dealings Bevan is there. If you add up everything
he's ever done you'll see that the sum total of Bevan's "achievements" has
been to take all the social capital that the movement had in the late '70s
and convert it into a lot of pompous long winded speeches that have no
purpose other than to cement his authority. Everyone, rajas included, will
breathe a sigh of relief when he breathes his last.

In a few years MUM will close because it can't get the staff. That is
Bevan's doing.
I've talked with a few MUM faculty who echo your sentiments about Bevan.
They shudder when he comes around. He came into my classroom once when I was
teaching there and it was like a dark cloud entered the room. No
friendliness, looking around at everything with a grim, judgmental, pompous
vibe.

[FairfieldLife] ‘Christian Right~Controls All Major U.S. Me dia!

‘Christian Right~Controls All Major U.S. Media!

'Top Secret!' [leaked to media/8/11/2009]

With the way this event... is going...
The Health-care debate...

One might think, that:
The Whole damn idiot media box, a-holes...

Are controlling the ‘sheep-like sleeping stupid masses’...

These a-holes are fun by Der Fuhrer, Rupert ‘The Fox’ Murdoch...(yeah, 
right?left!)
Rupert, is a prime agent for the CIA, and was recruited back in the ‘60’s...
By, Richard Mill[sh_t] house Nixon...

So, the only real free mass media agent,
At this point, fortuneteller, is Howard J. Stern!

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

On Aug 11, 2009, at 2:51 PM, guyfawkes91 wrote:

> What would be better; the continuation of Kali Yuga or accepting  
Bevan as a fact ?

>
Bevan is the essence of Kali Yuga. He's the leader of the nutjob  
faction in Vlodrop. He's the main obstruction that's stopping the  
TMO move towards becoming more acceptable to the public and for  
people who have learned TM going on to become teachers. Tony Nader  
wanted to drop the prices so more people would learn and Bevan  
wouldn't allow it, though I hear that he's now been overruled.

Just to put things in context, everything from Christianity,  
Islam...and TM Org / Neo-vaishnavism are ALL religions of the Kali  
yuga, what some traditional yogis have referred to as  the "black  
dharmas", meaning the dharmas or religions of the dark age. The TM  
Org may invoke the Vedas, but other than the Vedic yagyas everything  
is merely a mythical Vedism, born and bred in the Kali yuga.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin


> What would be better; the continuation of Kali Yuga or accepting Bevan as a 
> fact ?
>
Bevan is the essence of Kali Yuga. He's the leader of the nutjob faction in 
Vlodrop. He's the main obstruction that's stopping the TMO move towards 
becoming more acceptable to the public and for people who have learned TM going 
on to become teachers.  Tony Nader wanted to drop the prices so more people 
would learn and Bevan wouldn't allow it, though I hear that he's now been 
overruled. 

Whenever the movement has shown harshness or hardheartedness towards people, 
Bevan is there encouraging people towards more harshness. He is the driving 
force behind the plans to use legal teams to silence dissent. Wherever there 
has been dubious financial dealings Bevan is there. If you add up everything 
he's ever done you'll see that the sum total of Bevan's "achievements" has been 
to take all the social capital that the movement had in the late '70s and 
convert it into a lot of pompous long winded speeches that have no purpose 
other than to cement his authority. Everyone, rajas included, will breathe a 
sigh of relief when he breathes his last.

In a few years MUM will close because it can't get the staff. That is Bevan's 
doing.

[FairfieldLife] FW: The truth about health care reform

2009-08-11 Thread Rick Archer


Top Five Health Care Reform Lies-and How to Fight Back 

Lie #1: President Obama wants to euthanize your grandma!!!
The truth: These accusations-of "death panels" and forced euthanasia-are, of
course, flatly untrue. As an article from the Associated Press puts it: "No
'death panel' in health care bill."4 What's the real deal? Reform
legislation includes a provision, supported by the AARP, to offer senior
citizens access to a professional medical counselor who will provide them
with information on preparing a living will and other issues facing older
Americans.5 
Lie #2: Democrats are going to outlaw private insurance and force you into a
government plan!!!
The truth: With reform, choices will increase, not decrease. Obama's reform
plans will create a health insurance exchange, a one-stop shopping
marketplace for affordable, high-quality insurance options.6 Included in the
exchange is the public health insurance option-a nationwide plan with a
broad network of providers-that will operate alongside private insurance
companies, injecting competition into the market to drive quality up and
costs down.7
If you're happy with your coverage and doctors, you can keep them.8 But the
new public plan will expand choices to millions of businesses or individuals
who choose to opt into it, including many who simply can't afford health
care now. 
Lie #3: President Obama wants to implement Soviet-style rationing!!! 
The truth: Health care reform will expand access to high-quality health
insurance, and give individuals, families, and businesses more choices for
coverage. Right now, big corporations decide whether to give you coverage,
what doctors you get to see, and whether a particular procedure or medicine
is covered-that is rationed care. And a big part of reform is to stop that. 
Health care reform will do away with some of the most nefarious aspects of
this rationing: discrimination for pre-existing conditions, insurers that
cancel coverage when you get sick, gender discrimination, and lifetime and
yearly limits on coverage.9 And outside of that, as noted above, reform will
increase insurance options, not force anyone into a rationed situation.  
Lie #4: Obama is secretly plotting to cut senior citizens' Medicare
benefits!!!
The truth: Health care reform plans will not reduce Medicare benefits.10
Reform includes savings from Medicare that are unrelated to patient care-in
fact, the savings comes from cutting billions of dollars in overpayments to
insurance companies and eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse.11
Lie #5: Obama's health care plan will bankrupt America!!!
The truth: We need health care reform now in order to prevent bankruptcy-to
control spiraling costs that affect individuals, families, small businesses,
and the American economy.
Right now, we spend more than $2 trillion dollars a year on health care.12
The average family premium is projected to rise to over $22,000 in the next
decade13-and each year, nearly a million people face bankruptcy because of
medical expenses.14 Reform, with an affordable, high-quality public option
that can spur competition, is necessary to bring down skyrocketing costs.
Also, President Obama's reform plans would be fully paid for over 10 years
and not add a penny to the deficit.15
We're closer to real health care reform than we've ever been-and the next
few weeks will decide whether it happens. We need to make sure the truth
about health care reform is spread far and wide to combat right wing lies.
Can you forward this email to your friends today? And remember, also post it
on Facebook by clicking here: http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51746. And on
Twitter, by retweeting: @MoveOn Check out the Top 5 Health Care Lies-and How
to Fight Back. http://bit.ly/Bncs5
Thanks for all you do.
-Nita, Kat, Ilya, Michael and the rest of the team
P.S. Want more? Check out this great new White House "Reality Check"
website: http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/ or this excellent piece
from Health Care for America Now on some of the most outrageous lies:
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51729

&id=16778-619893-yUOs_Fx&t=1
Sources:
1. "More 'Town Halls Gone Wild': Angry Far Right Protesters Disrupt Events
With 'Incomprehensible' Yelling," Think Progress, August 4, 2009. 
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51733

&id=16778-619893-yUOs_Fx&t=2
2. "Fight the smears," Health Care for America NOW, accessed August 10,
2009. 
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51729

&id=16778-619893-yUOs_Fx&t=3
3. "Palin Paints Picture of 'Obama Death Panel' Giving Thumbs Down to Trig,"
ABC News, August 7, 2009. 
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51728

&id=16778-619893-yUOs_Fx&t=4
4. "No 'death panel' in health care bill," The Associated Press, August 10,
2009. 
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51747

[FairfieldLife] Jon Stewart Takes On The Town Hall 'Crazies'



Jon Stewart took on the town hall uprisings and their leaders last night in two 
segments, the first focusing on the media hypocrisy over the coverage of these 
events, and the second mocking the "death panel" debate.

Watch the clips here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/jon-stewart-vs-town-hall_n_256272.html

or,

http://snipurl.com/pnxg2  [www_huffingtonpost_com]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

2009-08-11 Thread BillyG.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500
> Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin
> From: Invincible America 
> 
> 
> "The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way."
> - IA Course Participant
> 
> It's hard to argue with perfection.
> Our Super Radiance numbers averaged more than 2,000 every day.
> 
> What happened nationwide?
> 
> No hurricanes - No hurricanes or tropical storms penetrated U.S. borders.
> Crime Rate Plummets-On July 20, the Washington Post reported, 
> "Violent crime has plummeted in the Washington area and in major 
> cities across the country, a trend criminologists describe as 
> baffling and unexpected."
> 
> And what happened here?
> 
> Great experiences - #1 experiences in the Golden Domes have been 
> deeper and richer than ever.
> Maharishi Vedic Pandit performance - 2,000 of us attended a live 
> performance of Maha Rudra Abhishek in the Golden Dome on Guru Purnima.
> More new Sidhas - More than 60 new Yogic Flyers graduated from CIC.
> Advanced training - More than 200 Governors attended Governor 
> Refresher Course and Workshop.
> Great weather! - July weather mildest on record ever for Iowa.
> 
> Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers 
> are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of 
> Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive.
> 
> We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs.
> 
> Let's give our President a burst of support from the heartland - 
> coherence in collective consciousness so that the country continues 
> moving forward harmoniously.
> 
> Our group has accomplished wonders. Let's keep the momentum of 
> positivity growing in America. Thank you for being here in wonderful 
> Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City.
> 
> JAI GURU DEV
> 
> Copyright 2009, Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. 
> Publication or reproduction of this communication in any form is 
> prohibited without permission.

I think Raja Hagelin and the others merely parrot what MMY has been doing for 
years. It's just more of the same, we all know they're not functioning "from 
the home of all the laws of nature", but more likely from a 'faint awareness' 
of the home of all the laws of nature. 

MMY and the tmorg have exaggerated the benefits of TM for years because they're 
in the business of selling TM and Ayurved to the World, doesn't mean it's not 
for a good cause, but they tend to believe the ends justify the means.IMO.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

2009-08-11 Thread nablusoss1008

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > 
> > How do you think this historic structure was created ? 
> > 
> > By using quitters, persons with treacherous tendensies or cowards and weak 
> > non-altruistic individuals attached to the everyday world ? By using 
> > unfocussed individuals perhaps with a heavy background in drugs ? By using 
> > individuals that did not had a strong desire for Masterhood in the 
> > Tradition of our Guru Dev ? Or individuals devoid of devotion, intellect, 
> > and a strong sense of purpose and flexibility towards the Master ?
> > 
> > This structure would never have become if it was not for individuals like 
> > Bevan. Like it or not, but the times demanded souls like him to step 
> > forward in difficult, fragmented times when this shining Yogi made His 
> > appearance. 
> > 
> > And they did.
> >

> All true...
> I just think it would be better without the haughty arrogant neo-nazi type 
> leadership, that Bevan, with his nifty sing-songy accent offers...
> 
> r.g.

What would be better; the continuation of Kali Yuga or accepting Bevan as a 
fact ?

[FairfieldLife] Unique Position Wanted Ad

2009-08-11 Thread It's just a ride

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http://tinyurl.com/mcwmdo

-- 
Ignorance is thinking you know everything. Wisdom is knowing you
don't... but I may be wrong.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

2009-08-11 Thread nablusoss1008

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> --I don't get it.  How many cases of MS, ALS, zits, or whatever, have been 
> cured by TM or other meditation techniques?.  Don't trust any of those 
> tweaked stats coming from MUM sources.  Totally bogus.

Can you "cure" heavy karmas as you mentioned ? You can't, karmas must be lived 
and experienced. But they can be slowed down considerably, and be made liveable 
if you have a proper Master.

I have a friend with Parkinson who is a Sidha for 29 years and who is living a 
perfectly normal life without difficulties, no shaking going on, much to the 
surprize of medical doctors. And a girlfriend diagnosed with MS, a meditator 
for 6 years who now have few signs of her dis-ease in daily life. Much to the 
surprize of doctors. 
Both claim TM "did it".

They are not cured by TM in any way but still live perfectly normal lives. The 
dis-ease is still in their physiology as stated by doctors, but in both cases 
TM has simply slowed down and made the dis-ease inpotent. The karma is not 
gone, estinguished by TM as it where, but softened considerably, "burnt in the 
fire of Yoga".

The karma will go completely during this lifetime if they are regular 
meditators, stay with the Tradition and the Self; they will be reborn without 
any signs of these horrible dis-eases.

Jai Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
> > >
> > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500
> > > Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin
> > > From: Invincible America 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way."
> > > - IA Course Participant
> > > 
> > > It's hard to argue with perfection.
> > > Our Super Radiance numbers averaged more than 2,000 every day.
> > > 
> > > What happened nationwide?
> > > 
> > > No hurricanes - No hurricanes or tropical storms penetrated U.S. borders.
> > > Crime Rate Plummets-On July 20, the Washington Post reported, 
> > > "Violent crime has plummeted in the Washington area and in major 
> > > cities across the country, a trend criminologists describe as 
> > > baffling and unexpected."
> > > 
> > > And what happened here?
> > > 
> > > Great experiences - #1 experiences in the Golden Domes have been 
> > > deeper and richer than ever.
> > > Maharishi Vedic Pandit performance - 2,000 of us attended a live 
> > > performance of Maha Rudra Abhishek in the Golden Dome on Guru Purnima.
> > > More new Sidhas - More than 60 new Yogic Flyers graduated from CIC.
> > > Advanced training - More than 200 Governors attended Governor 
> > > Refresher Course and Workshop.
> > > Great weather! - July weather mildest on record ever for Iowa.
> > > 
> > > Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers 
> > > are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of 
> > > Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive.
> > > 
> > > We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs.
> > > 
> > > Let's give our President a burst of support from the heartland - 
> > > coherence in collective consciousness so that the country continues 
> > > moving forward harmoniously.
> > > 
> > > Our group has accomplished wonders. Let's keep the momentum of 
> > > positivity growing in America. Thank you for being here in wonderful 
> > > Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City.
> > > 
> > > JAI GURU DEV
> > > 
> > > Copyright 2009, Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. 
> > > Publication or reproduction of this communication in any form is 
> > > prohibited without permission.
> > >
> > It's hard to argue with a program, so structured by His Holiness, that 
> > there is no other place in town with such a profound structure...
> > 
> > His Holiness, being a Capricorn, was thinking of the 'Long Run' and of 
> > course of 'Structure' on the billy goats way up to the top of the 
> > mountain...
> > 
> > My ex is a Capricorn...she thinks of the long run, and she loves 
> > structure...loves control...and is still climbing her mountain, without 
> > me...she's doing fine...
> > 
> > Anyway, I know there are other individuals around the world, who are 
> > becoming increasing enlightened day by day...
> > Still, I don't see any structure as profound as what His Holiness 
> > structured for us...
> 
> 
> How do you think this historic structure was created ? 
> 
> By using quitters, persons with treacherous tendensies or cowards and weak 
> non-altruistic individuals attached to the everyday world ? By using 
> unfocussed individuals perhaps with a heavy background in drugs ? By using 
> individuals that did not had a strong desire for Masterhood in the Tradition 
> of our Guru Dev ? Or individuals devoid of devotion, intellect, and a strong 
> sense of purpose and flexibility towards the Master ?
> 
> This structure would never have become if it was not for individuals like 
> Bevan. Like it or not, but the times demanded souls like him to step forward 
> in difficult, fragmented times when this shining Yogi made His appearance. 
> 
> And they did.
>
All true...
I just think it would be better without the haughty arrogant neo-nazi type 
leadership, that Bevan, with his nifty sing-songy accent offers...

r.g.

[FairfieldLife] 'Where are your papers?, Mr.Rush Limbaugh...'

‘Let’s See Your Birth Certificate, Rush Limbaugh!’

Were are your papers, Rush?
Are you sure, that you’re from this planet...
Or are you really from Pluto? Rush Limbaugh?
Let’s see your damned papers, you fat, drug-addicted,  asshole -bastard...
Rush, Rush, Rush...what an ass-hole!

~Roberto De Madison

[FairfieldLife] Top insurance executive turns whistleblower--the real story --please forward

2009-08-11 Thread Rick Archer

If you are interested in the real story behind our healthcare debate. Here
it is: Amy Goodman interviews a former top insurance industry executive. He
was the spokesperson for CIGNA one of the largest for profit insurance
corporations. He has turned whistleblower and explains exactly what they are
doing:
 
This is a shorter version:
http://www.truthout.org/081009B?n
 
Here is the complete 10 minute video:
 
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/16/former_insurance_exec_wendell_porter
 
Thank you Amy Goodman

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

2009-08-11 Thread nablusoss1008

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
> >
> > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500
> > Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin
> > From: Invincible America 
> > 
> > 
> > "The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way."
> > - IA Course Participant
> > 
> > It's hard to argue with perfection.
> > Our Super Radiance numbers averaged more than 2,000 every day.
> > 
> > What happened nationwide?
> > 
> > No hurricanes - No hurricanes or tropical storms penetrated U.S. borders.
> > Crime Rate Plummets-On July 20, the Washington Post reported, 
> > "Violent crime has plummeted in the Washington area and in major 
> > cities across the country, a trend criminologists describe as 
> > baffling and unexpected."
> > 
> > And what happened here?
> > 
> > Great experiences - #1 experiences in the Golden Domes have been 
> > deeper and richer than ever.
> > Maharishi Vedic Pandit performance - 2,000 of us attended a live 
> > performance of Maha Rudra Abhishek in the Golden Dome on Guru Purnima.
> > More new Sidhas - More than 60 new Yogic Flyers graduated from CIC.
> > Advanced training - More than 200 Governors attended Governor 
> > Refresher Course and Workshop.
> > Great weather! - July weather mildest on record ever for Iowa.
> > 
> > Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers 
> > are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of 
> > Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive.
> > 
> > We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs.
> > 
> > Let's give our President a burst of support from the heartland - 
> > coherence in collective consciousness so that the country continues 
> > moving forward harmoniously.
> > 
> > Our group has accomplished wonders. Let's keep the momentum of 
> > positivity growing in America. Thank you for being here in wonderful 
> > Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City.
> > 
> > JAI GURU DEV
> > 
> > Copyright 2009, Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. 
> > Publication or reproduction of this communication in any form is 
> > prohibited without permission.
> >
> It's hard to argue with a program, so structured by His Holiness, that there 
> is no other place in town with such a profound structure...
> 
> His Holiness, being a Capricorn, was thinking of the 'Long Run' and of course 
> of 'Structure' on the billy goats way up to the top of the mountain...
> 
> My ex is a Capricorn...she thinks of the long run, and she loves 
> structure...loves control...and is still climbing her mountain, without 
> me...she's doing fine...
> 
> Anyway, I know there are other individuals around the world, who are becoming 
> increasing enlightened day by day...
> Still, I don't see any structure as profound as what His Holiness structured 
> for us...


How do you think this historic structure was created ? 

By using quitters, persons with treacherous tendensies or cowards and weak 
non-altruistic individuals attached to the everyday world ? By using unfocussed 
individuals perhaps with a heavy background in drugs ? By using individuals 
that did not had a strong desire for Masterhood in the Tradition of our Guru 
Dev ? Or individuals devoid of devotion, intellect, and a strong sense of 
purpose and flexibility towards the Master ?

This structure would never have become if it was not for individuals like 
Bevan. Like it or not, but the times demanded souls like him to step forward in 
difficult, fragmented times when this shining Yogi made His appearance. 

And they did.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's who Barry wants to dialogue with...



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
wrote:
>
> ...and he'll probably apologise to them, too!
>
> 
>
> Executing Virgins, Iran Style
>
> By: Deborah Weiss
>
> FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, August 10, 2009
>
>
> Despite the fact that Iran's penal code prohibits the execution of
virgins, Iran executes more juveniles than any other country in the
world. >>
Take the branch out of your own eye first Shemp... Iraq Body Count
Documented civilian deaths from violence
   92,641  101,129 

  [From the Database]  



OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Thank God for Government intervention.


Thank God Obama saved General Motors !
GM says new Volt to get 230 mpg in city driving.  [FILE - In this
Wednesday, Aug. 5, 2009 file photo, Vice President Joe Biden]  
<http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Chevrolet-Volt-miles-per-gallon-Toyota-Pr\
ius/photo//090811/480/c7840ae1fbdf4d52b956e47cb65b745e//s:/ap/20090811/a\
p_on_bi_ge/us_gm_volt_mileage>  By KIMBERLY S. JOHNSON and TOM
KRISHER, AP Auto Writers Kimberly S. Johnson And Tom Krisher, Ap Auto
Writers  1 hr 20 mins ago
WARREN, Mich.  General Motors Corp. said Tuesday its Chevrolet Volt
rechargeable electric car should get 230 miles per gallon of gasoline in
city driving, more than four times the mileage of the current champion,
the Toyota Prius.

The Volt is powered by an electric motor and a battery pack with a
40-mile range. After that, a small internal combustion engine kicks in
to generate electricity for a total range of 300 miles. The battery pack
can be recharged from a standard home outlet.

GM came up with the 230-mile figure in early tests using draft
guidelines from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for calculating
the mileage of extended range electric vehicles, said Tony Posawatz,
GM's vehicle line director for the Volt.

If the figure is confirmed by the EPA, which does the tests for the
mileage posted on new car door stickers, the Volt would be the first car
to exceed triple-digit gas mileage, Posawatz said.

GM has produced about 30 Volts so far and is making 10 a week, CEO Fritz
Henderson said during a presentation of the vehicle at the company's
technical center in the Detroit suburb of Warren.

Henderson said charging the volt will cost about 40 cents a day.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_volt_mileage
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_volt_mileage>



OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Here's who Barry wants to dialogue with...

2009-08-11 Thread shempmcgurk

...and he'll probably apologise to them, too!



Executing Virgins, Iran Style

 By: Deborah Weiss 

FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, August 10, 2009


Despite the fact that Iran's penal code prohibits the execution of virgins, 
Iran executes more juveniles than any other country in the world.  The 
executions are conducted through hangings, stonings, and other barbaric 
measures consistent with Sharia law.  Since the age of personal responsibility 
in Iran is 13 for boys and 9 for girls, surely many of those sentenced to death 
are virgins.  How does the government get around this?  On the condition of 
anonymity, a Basiji guard recently spoke out to explain how Iran executes 
virgins.

 
The Basiji is a volunteer paramilitary force founded by the Ayatollah Khomeini 
in 1979.  Known as the people's militia, it is subordinate to the Iranian 
Revolutionary Guard and remains very loyal to Khomeini's successor, the Supreme 
Leader Khamenei.  

 
Explaining how he became a member of the Basiji, the guard stated that his 
father was a martyr in the Iran-Iraq war.  At age 16, his mother took him to 
the Basijis and pleaded with them to accept him so he'd have a better life.  
They agreed.  

 
The guard became a well-regarded member of the force.  His superiors were so 
impressed with him that they gave him the "honor" of temporarily marrying young 
girls prior to their executions.  The girls are forced into marriage with a 
prison guard, and then raped on their wedding night before being killed the 
next morning. 

The girls always fight back when their marriage is to be "consummated", so 
sometimes the guards put sleeping pills into the girls' food.  When the rapes 
were over, the guard would hear the girls crying and screaming.  He remembered 
one girl who clawed her own face and neck, resulting in deep scratches all 
over.  Though the non-consensual weddings are considered legal, the guard 
admitted that the girls were more afraid of their wedding nights than of their 
pending deaths.  "By morning the girls would have an empty expression; it 
seemed like they were ready or wanted to die."

 
In Sharia law, certain crimes are punishable by death.  According to Amnesty 
International, the Ayatollah, who followed strict Sharia law, had twenty 
thousand girls and women executed in the first three years of his rule.  Though 
Islam does not prohibit the execution of virgins, it does teach that virgins go 
to Paradise after death.  Many Islamic clerics, not satisfied with merely 
cutting short the lives of young girls, also wanted to ensure that the girls 
would suffer an eternity in hell.  Therefore, Iran made it illegal to execute 
virgins, but created a legal loophole by ordering guards to "marry" and rape 
their prisoners.  Authorities in many other Islamic countries also order their 
guards to systematically rape female prisoners.  In Iran, the crimes of 
homosexuality, fornication, armed robbery, kidnapping, drug trafficking are 
among those deemed capital offenses.  Often fornication charges are leveled 
even when the accused is raped.  The victim is rarely able to "prove" her 
innocence due to a lack of due process and the fact that the testimony of 
females is worth one half that of a man's.  

 
The Basiji guard spoke after recently being released from prison by Iranian 
authorities.  He had been jailed for the crime of releasing a 13 year old boy 
and a 15 year old girl after they were arrested for  protesting the 
Presidential election results in June.  Many other police and members of 
security forces have also been arrested for showing leniency to protestors or 
for releasing them from custody without authorization from higher-ups.  The 
guard released the two teens because they looked so young and he knew what was 
going to happen to them.  He believes it was primarily the release of the girl 
that got him into trouble.  However, while in prison he was treated well and 
spent most of his time praying and thinking about his wife and children.

 
Ironically, it is no longer the Presidential election results that Iranians are 
protesting, but the kind of  brutality and inhumanity that the Basiji guard 
himself perpetrated through his "temporary" marriages.  Iranians are tired of 
living under the oppression of an Islamic theocracy.  Protestors are willing to 
risk imprisonment, bodily injury and their lives for the cause of freedom.  
Many of them are under age 18.  

 
As of July 30, 2009, dozens of protestors have been killed and hundreds more 
have been arrested.  While in jail, they may have their fingernails ripped off, 
be forced to lick dirty toilet bowls or be beaten to death.  Numerous Islamic 
clerics are formally demanding the death penalty for protest leaders.

 
Though Iran publicly condemns the execution of minors, it justifies the 
execution of its own youth by defining minors to be those under age 13 if male 
and under age 9 if female.  Alternatively, sometimes Ira

[FairfieldLife] ‘The First One Now, Will Later Be Last!’

‘The First One Now, Will Later Be Last!’

~Bob Dylan  circa: 1960’s

[Prophesier: the Bush Era]...

Roberto De Madison, Verona, WI

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

 
> That's the ting with these Capricorns...~
> 
The Truth About Capricorns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIjBO26qjYM&feature=fvst

[FairfieldLife] I am the Secretary of State, Not Bill, says Hillary (fooled me)

2009-08-11 Thread It's just a ride

KINSHASA, Congo -- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton's
temper flared on Monday when a Congolese university student asked her
for her husband's thinking on an international financial matter.

A week after former President Bill Clinton traveled to North Korea to
secure the release of two detained American journalists and stole the
limelight from the start of his wife's first trip to Africa, Clinton
was clearly displeased by the question at town hall forum in Kinshasa.

"You want me to tell you what my husband thinks?" she replied
incredulously when the male student asked her what "Mr. Clinton"
thought of World Bank concerns about a multi-billion-dollar Chinese
loan offer to the Congo.

"My husband is not secretary of state, I am," an obviously annoyed
Clinton said sharply. "If you want my opinion, I will tell you my
opinion. I am not going to be channeling my husband."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/10/hillary-clinton-im-secretary-state/

http://tinyurl.com/md5lww



-- 
Ignorance is thinking you know everything. Wisdom is knowing you
don't... but I may be wrong.

[FairfieldLife] 'The Password is: You Bastards'

Hey listen, you Iowa Bastards!~
You want to come up to Chicago?
I own the whole damn town...you bastards...
Guess what?
Have on me, 'cause the bastards just locked me up,
And threw away the Key.
Bastards!
Just remember the password...
At the door...

You Bastards!

Al Capone, Chicago, IL  circa: 1933

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[FairfieldLife] 'JFK's sister says, Good-Bye'

  By MARK PRATT, Associated Press Writer Mark Pratt, Associated Press Writer   
– 19 mins ago

BOSTON – President John F. Kennedy's sister, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, who 
carried on the family's public service tradition by founding the Special 
Olympics and championing the rights of the mentally disabled, died early 
Tuesday surrounded by relatives at a Hyannis hospital. She was 88.

Shriver had suffered a series of strokes in recent years and died at Cape Cod 
Hospital, her family said in a statement. Her husband, her five children and 
all 19 of her grandchildren were by her side, the statement said.

"She was the light of our lives, a mother, wife, grandmother, sister and aunt 
who taught us by example and with passion what it means to live a faith-driven 
life of love and service to others," the family said.

The hospital is near the Kennedy family compound, where her sole surviving 
brother, Sen. Edward Kennedy, has been battling a brain tumor.

Sen. Kennedy said his earliest memory of his sister was as a young girl "with 
great humor, sharp wit, and a boundless passion to make a difference."

"She understood deeply the lesson our mother and father taught us — much is 
expected of those to whom much has been given," he said in a statement. 
"Throughout her extraordinary life, she touched the lives of millions, and for 
Eunice that was never enough."

President Barack Obama said Shriver will be remembered as "as a champion for 
people with intellectual disabilities, and as an extraordinary woman who, as 
much as anyone, taught our nation — and our world — that no physical or mental 
barrier can restrain the power of the human spirit."

As celebrity, social worker and activist, Shriver was credited with 
transforming America's view of the mentally disabled from institutionalized 
patients to friends, neighbors and athletes. Her efforts were inspired in part 
by the struggles of her mentally disabled sister, Rosemary.

Peter Collier, author of "The Kennedys, an American Drama," called Eunice 
Shriver the "moral force" of the Kennedy family.

"We have always been honored to share our mother with people of good will the 
world over who believe, as she did, that there is no limit to the human 
spirit," her family members said in the statement.

Shriver was also the sister of Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, the wife of 1972 vice 
presidential candidate and former Peace Corps director R. Sargent Shriver, and 
the mother of former NBC newswoman Maria Shriver, who is married to California 
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. With Eunice Shriver's death, Jean Kennedy Smith 
becomes the last surviving Kennedy daughter.

Schwarzenegger said his mother-in-law "changed my life by raising such a 
fantastic daughter, and by putting me on the path to service, starting with 
drafting me as a coach for the Special Olympics."

A 1960 Chicago Tribune profile of the women in then-candidate JFK's family said 
Shriver was "generally credited with being the most intellectual and 
politically minded of all the Kennedy women."

When her brother was in the White House, she pressed for efforts to help 
troubled young people and the mentally disabled. And in 1968, she started what 
would become the world's largest athletic competition for mentally disabled 
children and adults. Now, more than 1 million athletes in more than 160 
countries participate in Special Olympics meets each year.

"When the full judgment on the Kennedy legacy is made — including JFK's Peace 
Corps and Alliance for Progress, Robert Kennedy's passion for civil rights and 
Ted Kennedy's efforts on health care, work place reform and refugees — the 
changes wrought by Eunice Shriver may well be seen as the most consequential," 
Harrison Rainie, author of "Growing Up Kennedy," wrote in U.S. News & World 
Report in 1993.

It was Shriver who revealed the condition of her sister Rosemary to the nation 
during her brother's presidency.

"Early in life Rosemary was different," she wrote in a 1962 article for the 
Saturday Evening Post. "She was slower to crawl, slower to walk and speak. ... 
Rosemary was mentally retarded." Rosemary Kennedy underwent a lobotomy when she 
was 23, though that wasn't mentioned in the article. She lived most of her life 
in an institution in Wisconsin and died in 2005 at age 86.

The roots of the Special Olympics go back to a summer camp Shriver ran in 
Maryland in 1963. Shriver would "get right in the pool with the kids; she'd 
toss the ball," said a niece, former Maryland Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy 
Townsend, who volunteered at the camp as a teen. "It's that hands-on, gritty 
approach that awakened her to the kids' needs."

Realizing the children were far more capable of sports than experts said, 
Shriver organized the first Special Olympics in 1968 in Chicago. The two-day 
event drew more than 1,000 participants from 26 states and Canada.

By 2003, the Special Olympics World Summer Games, held that year in Dublin, 
Ireland, involved more than 6,500 athlet

[FairfieldLife] 'Now Hear This! Essene Channels 74 A.D.'

OK...This is how it all got lost...
It was due to the 'Bastardization of the Language' of the time...
The Hebrew was bastardized, and the original translations of 'The Master 
Yeshiva's'...Teachings!
The Damn Bastards, every singly one of them...everyone.
The bastards lost it to that old whittle downer, TIME!!!
The Romans were so busy with their F'-n, Eat'-n  and Kil'-n...
It all got all F'-d up...

Roberto De Madison.

[FairfieldLife] 'Munich [Nazi] Report for August 11th, 2009 ’

‘Another Nazi Bites the Dust!’

Nazi war criminal jailed for life

Munich, Germany August 11,2009

Josef Scheungraber was in court in Munich

A former German infantry commander has been jailed for life for his role in the 
killing of 14 civilians in an Italian village during World War II.

A Munich state court found 90-year-old Josef Scheungraber guilty of ordering 
the killings, in what was one of the last Nazi crimes trials in Germany.

Scheungraber had previously been sentenced in absentia by an Italian military 
court to life in prison.

The killings took place in Falzano di Cortona, in Tuscany, on 26 June 1944.

Scheungraber had always denied the charges, saying he handed the victims to the 
military police and did not know what happened to them.

His legal team had called for his acquittal due to contradictions in the 
testimony of witnesses 65 years after the events.

Free for decades

Dressed in a traditional Bavarian jacket, Scheungraber appeared in good health 
as his sentence was handed down.
Josef Scheungraber in court in Munich, Germany, 11 August 2009
The 90-year-old's trial is expected to be one of the last of its kind

The court found that as a 25-year-old Wehrmacht lieutenant, he had ordered the 
brutal killings in revenge for an attack by Italian partisans that left two 
German soldiers dead.

Although he was charged with 14 counts of murder and one of attempted murder, 
Scheungraber was actually convicted of 10 murders due to a lack of evidence.

German troops shot dead a 74-year-old woman and three men in the street before 
forcing 11 others into a farmhouse which they then blew up.

Only the youngest - a 15-year-old boy named Gino Massetti - survived, and he 
gave evidence during the trial in Munich.

Scheungraber, the former commander of a company of engineers, had lived for 
decades as a free man, and served on the town council in Ottobrunn, outside 
Munich.

He ran a furniture shop, attended German veterans' marches and recently 
received an award for municipal service.

Although he was sentenced to life in prison for the Tuscany killings by an 
Italian military tribunal in La Spezia in September 2006, Scheungraber did not 
attend that trial as Germany generally does not extradite its citizens without 
their consent.

[FairfieldLife] Alternative to Transcendental Meditation

An alternative to Transcendental MeditationAugust 10, 6:29 PMPhoenix Alternative Religions ExaminerWayne Purdin NSR Inc. Founder David SpectorSome readers think that I am a proponent of Transcendental Meditation. And I've received email from TMers accusing me of putting TM in a bad light by allowing negative comments about it. They're both wrong. I am an objective reporter. In this article I will objectively report on an alternative to TM, called Natural Stress Relief (NSR). You might ask, if TM is so great why do we need an alternative? Unfortunately, TM has developed several aspects that prevent many people from being able to learn. Its course fee has become prohibitively high ($1500.00 for adults, $750 for students and $375 for children under 18), and it includes nonessential elements that many find to be religious or mystical, and therefore objectionable to some people. The need for an alternative was clear, and a nonprofit group in Italy called Istituto Scientia, led by physics researcher Fabrizio Coppola, got together in the late 1990's to develop a comparable technique that did not have these objectional aspects. By 2003, Istituto Scientia was offering their own course, called la Tecnica Naturale Anti-Stress (TNAS) in Italian, and Natural Stress Relief in English. In 2006 David Spector, a former TM teacher, was inspired to help. David founded Natural Stress Relief, Inc., an independent nonprofit corporation, to produce and distribute the NSR learning materials in hardcopy and CDs throughout the world in cooperation with Istituto Scientia. Since 2006 nearly one thousand individuals have learned NSR Meditation through NSR Meditation/USA. I recently talked with David about NSR and this is what he had to say: Q. Doesn't NSR violate copyright law? Aren't you guilty of plaigarism? A. We have copied no written or copyrighted TM material except for very brief and attributed quotations from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of TM. Q. When I became a TM teacher, I had to sign a legal document promising not to teach it outside of the TMO. How did you get around this? A: When I graduated from 8 months of teacher training in residence with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1972, our group was asked orally not to teach TM outside of Maharishi's organizations, and I have not done so. My last TM teaching was done in 1974. I was also asked not to reveal that pledge, but you did ask a direct question and I believe that only an honest answer is ethical. Maharishi was certainly very concerned (as am I) about what he liked to call "the purity of the teaching", but he was at the same time supportive (at least in the early 1970s) of people teaching the simple, natural, effortless, and effective technique of transcending to as many people as possible. He taught us that this knowledge is no one's property but that it comes to us from the long and freely available Vedic tradition passed from teacher to student in India. He said we should enlighten the world, whether we called it TM and worked through his organizations or whether we called it something else and worked independently of his organizations. An early example was Deepak Chopra, a disciple of Maharishi who decided to form his own organization and teach his own techniques based on the same Vedic tradition of effortless enlightenment. Maharishi reluctantly approved his doing so and Deepak is still helping the world today. Another example is the Advaita Meditation organization, which is teaching mantra meditation independently with the blessing of the current leader of that Vedic tradition in South India at Sringeri (Maharishi was a disciple of the leader of the same tradition in the north of India at Jyotir Math). Q. What do you say to critics who accuse you of being in it for the money? A. Natural Stress Relief, Inc. is a nonprofit corporation registered in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The NSR organizations are not only nonprofit, but volunteer as well. The officers receive no income from sales of the NSR learning materials or from their personal support services. Indeed, our prices are a small fraction of what we could charge; they are only what we have found necessary to publicize and produce the NSR materials. Q. Is NSR identical to TM? A. NSR is not the same as TM. For example, NSR is self-learned from a manual and a CD, while TM is learned through personal instruction from a teacher. We only state that experimentation and experience have confirmed that it produces similar results (decreased stress, increased intelligence, creativity, ability to focus, etc.) as TM. Q. What research has been done on NSR and how does it compare with research on TM? A. NSR has been available to researchers for only 6 years, as compared to 51 years for TM. In spite of our newness, we have published two papers in peer-reviewed psychological journals. In addition, we have several unpublished studies (including a current longitudinal STAI study with N=45). All of our studi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500
> Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin
> From: Invincible America 
> 
> 
> "The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way."
> - IA Course Participant
> 
> It's hard to argue with perfection.
> Our Super Radiance numbers averaged more than 2,000 every day.
> 
> What happened nationwide?
> 
> No hurricanes - No hurricanes or tropical storms penetrated U.S. borders.
> Crime Rate Plummets-On July 20, the Washington Post reported, 
> "Violent crime has plummeted in the Washington area and in major 
> cities across the country, a trend criminologists describe as 
> baffling and unexpected."
> 
> And what happened here?
> 
> Great experiences - #1 experiences in the Golden Domes have been 
> deeper and richer than ever.
> Maharishi Vedic Pandit performance - 2,000 of us attended a live 
> performance of Maha Rudra Abhishek in the Golden Dome on Guru Purnima.
> More new Sidhas - More than 60 new Yogic Flyers graduated from CIC.
> Advanced training - More than 200 Governors attended Governor 
> Refresher Course and Workshop.
> Great weather! - July weather mildest on record ever for Iowa.
> 
> Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers 
> are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of 
> Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive.
> 
> We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs.
> 
> Let's give our President a burst of support from the heartland - 
> coherence in collective consciousness so that the country continues 
> moving forward harmoniously.
> 
> Our group has accomplished wonders. Let's keep the momentum of 
> positivity growing in America. Thank you for being here in wonderful 
> Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City.
> 
> JAI GURU DEV
> 
> Copyright 2009, Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. 
> Publication or reproduction of this communication in any form is 
> prohibited without permission.
>
It's hard to argue with a program, so structured by His Holiness, that there is 
no other place in town with such a profound structure...

His Holiness, being a Capricorn, was thinking of the 'Long Run' and of course 
of 'Structure' on the billy goats way up to the top of the mountain...

My ex is a Capricorn...she thinks of the long run, and she loves 
structure...loves control...and is still climbing her mountain, without 
me...she's doing fine...

Anyway, I know there are other individuals around the world, who are becoming 
increasing enlightened day by day...
Still, I don't see any structure as profound as what His Holiness structured 
for us...

It's just such a shame, Bevan [Nazi] Morris got himself so dug in and bullet 
proof,  with his Neo-Fascist Tendencies!

That's the ting with these Capricorns...~

~They always seem to attract these Mafia types for 'Protection'

It seems that... B. M...

Well, 

He came up with an offer for His Holiness that His Holiness couldn't refuse...

I think Bevan is a CIA agent, so apparently...who knows?

Roberto De Madison

[FairfieldLife] 'Hillary F-F-Freaks!'


 
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: I am the Secretary of State!
Not my Husband!
 
Somewhere in Africa, August 10th, 2009
 
When asked in Africa, what her husband thinks, Hillary snaps!...
 
Hey, listen you jerk-off...I AM Secretary of State, not my husband!
I am not here to channel my husband...
My husband hasn't F'd me in 5 years! Asshole!
Listen, I had to put up with his sh_t of too long...
F'n every Don, Chick and Hairy, in the oval office, I have had enough...
He blew the 2000 election for us, and he blew mine too...(not literallly)
My husband is an Ass-hole...
If you want to ask me a question, I will answer it now...
I'm not standing here with my head on my shoulders for show!
I actually have something to say!
Now, what were you saying about not having any bread?
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

  (snip)
>  Just in the time taken for me to type this, Mexican drug cartels have 
> probably murdered 108 people including innocents.
> Things are getting worse, not better. Reality checkduh
> (snip)

How to end the vile violence in Mexico?
Legalize the Sh_t...

[FairfieldLife] WOFFL 4 -- Seek Knowledge, Not Gurus

2009-08-11 Thread TurquoiseB

The south of France at this time of year is awash with
seekers of one sort or another, especially in the area
I'm in. You've gotcher Cathar seekers, you've gotcher 
Rennes-le-Chateau Mysterious Pot 'O Money seekers, and
you've gotcher Jeezus And Mary Magdalene's Holy Bloodline
seekers. There are more New Age crazies per square meter
than in Santa Fe, and that's saying something.  :-)

However, watching these folks roaming around ruins with
glassy eyes hoping for revelation, or pouring over the
books being hawked to seeker-tourists such as themselves
in the bookstalls, or overhearing them talking about 
their discoveries in the cafes, there is a trend that
seems to be showing up.

The French and Spanish seeker-tourists and those from 
mainland Europe seem to be seeking personal experience
or knowledge, with very few preconceptions or expect-
ations. Their main "driving force" seems to be curiosity. 
But the British and the American seeker seem to be 
questing after "authority," often in the form of some 
guru or teacher or scholar who tells them "the truth."

I find this interesting because I see the same phenom-
enon in some of the seekers on FFL. It's like they've 
taken the normal, everyday "cult of personality" that 
drives their media and extended it to their spirituality. 
They want...nay, NEED...a "talking head," a human being 
who is the personification of the spiritual knowledge 
they seek, and preferably one who is 1) charismatic 
and 2) will tell them what to do.

The Europeans are looking only for the knowledge. They
graciously allow the British and the Americans to look
for some guru or teacher to tell them what to do, and
then snicker behind their backs.

Last night in Mirepoix there were two "New Agey" talks
advertised on posters around the town. The first was
classic "guruspeak," some fellow whose photo was all 
over the posters trying to attract followers to his 
cult by giving a supposed talk about the "real" truth
of Rennes-le-Chateau. Another talk in the same town
was more of a slide show given by someone who was an
actual expert on the area. There was no photo of the
speaker on its posters, and no promise of enlightenment.
Both talks were to be given in English (not unusual at
this time of the tourist year, English being the new
lingua franca and all).

Out of curiosity I walked by the first talk as people 
were starting to arrive for it. As expected, they were 
ALL British and American...not a French or Spanish or
German or Dutch person in the crowd. They hung around
waiting for the talk to start and chatting about all
the gurus and teachers they had met, and playing "guru
oneupsmanship" with each other, on the level of, "Yes,
I experience darshan from , but it was *nothing*
compared to the darshan I experienced from ___." 

I moved along to the other talk, and that crowd was 
almost entirely Euro. There were no glassy-eyed New Agers,
and no pre-lecture "My guru's dick is longer than your
guru's dick" talk among the attendees. It was just a 
bunch of people hoping to learn a little something and
then go away and assimilate it into their own lives 
themselves, choosing what to believe and what not to
believe *by* themselves. No one at the second talk was 
looking for a "guru" or "authority" or anyone to tell 
them how to think or what to think or what to do with 
their lives. 

It should be obvious which talk I attended. :-) Many
regulars on Fairfield Life would have gone for the "guru" 
talk, hoping to find an "authority figure" or snag a little
free darshan. Me, I was just curious to see whether the 
guy giving the talk had uncovered a few facts in his 
research that I hadn't in mine. And he had; I came away 
happy to have learned a little something. 

At the cafe afterwards, a few of the people from the talk
I went to ran into a few of the people who went to the other
talk. Over coffee, it became obvious that the nearby chateau
of Puivert had been mentioned in both talks, and someone
brought up a question about it. One of the people who had
attended the "guru talk" said, "We'll ask __ that
question when we see him next...he'll tell us." One of the
women from the talk I glanced through one of the free bro-
chures that had been given away at our talk, looked the 
answer up herself, and read it aloud to the folks in the 
cafe. 

I cracked up. It was a perfect commentary on the trends I 
had been noticing. One group went to see a "guru" so that he
would tell them "the truth," and all they learned was that 
the next time they wanted to know something, they had to 
run to him and ask for "the truth" again. The other group 
learned how to figure out answers for themselves.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin