[FairfieldLife] Nice cartoon series created from some of Roger Ebert's last words

[turquoiseb]

http://zenpencils.com/comic/118-roger-ebert-on-kindness/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, V3.02

[turquoiseb]

Thanks for the photo-reworking, if it amuses you. Your quest -- to try
to find some of the magic I found in that street in a 2D photo snapped
of it without much thought or planning or artistry on an iPhone --
reminds me of a favorite book cover from cartoonist Gahan Wilson:


I always loved this one. The landscape the painter sits in is empty, for
others. For the artist, it is not. Then again, Wilson tends to see
monsters in his landscapes, whereas I see Silence. As much as I loved
his cartoons, I somehow think I got the better deal.  :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

This  image of Rue Mouffetard illustrates the difference between what we
see  with our eyes, and what cameras record. The eye and brain do some
heavy  duty processing so that our experience is quite luminous, with
bright  light and shadow filled with light. When we take a picuture, the
camera  records a linear range of brightnesses without the visual
compensations  that we provide, I suppose say that developed via
evolution. Also the  camera has a more limited range of contrast. Here
is Barry's original  photo:

>[https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/580660_61147590\
2\
> 209880_1729325346_n.jpg]
> Rue Mouffetard.

I  ran this picture through some software that aims to restore, at least
partially, the perceptual effect of the way the brain and eye process a 
scene. It partially compensates for the way a camera reproduces a scene,
and makes it slightly more like the way we see an image. But it cannot 
do everything. For example, the sky is nearly blank white. There is 
photometric evidence in the image the sky may have been blue, but that 
evidence is so slight, it is unreliable. The camera's sensor was 
saturated so the only way to know what color the sky was would be to ask
Barry what he remembers when he took the picture, and that could be 
'added' to fake it, and make it look perhaps more like the original 
scene. Here is the version of Barry's image adjusted more or less 
scientifically to a human visual perception, withing the limits of what 
his camera was able to record (a cell phone camera perhaps).

Rue Mouffetard with visual processing.
[http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/or/509727527/name/turq-rue-mouffet\
ard.jpg]

This  is very urban. Mostly I have lived in suburban environments. That
is  sub-urban. A little more out-in-the-country like. I have rarely
lived in  big cities where buildings are this crowded together. Barry
must like  this. The aerial views of Leiden also show rather dense
population  outside of the parks

Cobblestone street. Once, cities, long ago  probably had very narrow
streets. Only people walking. Then came horses  and wagons. The streets
got a little wider. In the 19th century,  automobiles showed up, and
streets got a little wider. Now we have large  lorries (trucks for you
Americans) that require a large turning radius  to get around corners,
and so streets are now designed even wider. This  street in Paris looks
as if it harks back to the 19th century and even  before, when life was
a bit less frantic as far as travel speed.

Paris  is a huge city. For those wanting a detailed view here is a link
to a  26GP size image of Paris. This picture has about 25 thousand times
more  detail than the image Barry posted here:

http://www.paris-26-gigapixels.com/index-en.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

LOL..thanks dear Ann, give me a couple of days. I usually memorize the
chart in my head and contemplate on it in my free time to make sure I don't
miss anything. I am slow since I don't do this often. Of course I can start
talking about it as I see it but then it won't make much sense to you if I
talk about houses and planets but I will just summarize and do the detailed
one for the heck of it so you could see my thought process.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Ann  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well dear Ann - astrologers can get pretty carried away and come up
> with
> > > > magical theories. In essence, from a purely theoretical perspective
> one
> > > > can, I can - devoid of all mystical, magical crap, karma,
> reincarnation
> > > > bullshit - come up with a reasonable, logical, analytical
> astrological
> > > > analysis that provides insights into one's strengths, weaknesses,
> > > > personality. I don't know how it works - but it does and of course
> it's
> > > not
> > > > an exact Science, it's more of an intuitive, analysis since the
> signs,
> > > > planets have various significations and an intelligent astrologer
> has to
> > > > put everything in the right perspective. Since you are skeptical I
> can do
> > > > one for you if you would like and you can measure the success of the
> > > > reading.
> > >
> > > Dear Ravi, I would love you to do whatever you want to with me. What
> next?
> > > Need birth dates etc?
> > >
> >
> > Yes dear Ann - time of birth and place is what's needed. If you don't
> want
> > to post it here let me know.
>
> No, it's all very good, I would love you to read me.
> Date of birth November 5, 1956. Place: Dunkirk, New York. Time 8:25 am
> (that is as close in time as I know.) Anything else? My life and destiny
> are in your hands.
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well dear Ann - astrologers can get pretty carried away and come up with
> > > magical theories. In essence, from a purely theoretical perspective one
> > > can, I can - devoid of all mystical, magical crap, karma, reincarnation
> > > bullshit - come up with a reasonable, logical, analytical astrological
> > > analysis that provides insights into one's strengths, weaknesses,
> > > personality. I don't know how it works - but it does and of course it's
> > not
> > > an exact Science, it's more of an intuitive, analysis since the signs,
> > > planets have various significations and an intelligent astrologer has to
> > > put everything in the right perspective. Since you are skeptical I can do
> > > one for you if you would like and you can measure the success of the
> > > reading.
> >
> > Dear Ravi, I would love you to do whatever you want to with me. What next?
> > Need birth dates etc?
> >
> 
> Yes dear Ann - time of birth and place is what's needed. If you don't want
> to post it here let me know.

No, it's all very good, I would love you to read me.
Date of birth November 5, 1956. Place: Dunkirk, New York. Time 8:25 am (that is 
as close in time as I know.) Anything else? My life and destiny are in your 
hands. 
> 
> After I sent that I was questioning if I was up for it and figured you may
> not take up my offer. Anyway it should be fun :-), remember it's no magic
> or vodoo or some divine intuition, just reading based on various
> significations.
> ​​
> 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula  > ...>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > Thanks Ann - of course my main intent was to make sure you didn't feel
> > bad
> > > > because I know this person's dysfunctional behavior - like I said
> > still an
> > > > intelligent man. Not his stupid theory. Just watched his video, could
> > only
> > > > tolerate about 30 seconds of it - yeah looks pathetic.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Ann  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back
> > he
> > > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
> > approach
> > > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
> > created
> > > >> including one for Mac.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating.
> > Here is
> > > >> one link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html
> > > >>
> > > >> I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history,
> > that
> > > >> he could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design,
> > > >> wardrobe and makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past
> > the
> > > >> low production values to the meat of the thing.
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Ann,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for
> > many
> > > >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > > >> That's why he acts that way.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > JR
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" 
> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in
> > this
> > > >> forum?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had
> > our
> > > >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just
> > couldn't
> > > >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second
> > hand
> > > >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms
> > that
> > > >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling
> > sideshow
> > > >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just
> > not
> > > >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it.
> > Maybe
> > > >> in my next life.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>

[FairfieldLife] Humming on the handle of Crop Circle Lust

[obbajeeba]

Another question of quest for the Nabby one:

Humming on the handle of Crop Circle Lust

Hovering humming vibrating on the handle 
of creation can't keep that thing away 
from the circles they look like holes 
and holes are on ho's I mean women who play
what do the aliens have to say?
About this?
About a dick on a man that needs penetration
What do the Aliens have to say,
What do the aliens say?
Are the crop circles cropped from alien lust?
Does the hovercraft glide keep the KY Nye?
Does the flock keep a spread those dam pheasants
shot dead by a hunter's gun he-man hole punching
tool and die leads to more porn that one can 
be torn from.
 O' hum the crop circle glide tonight!
Aliens sexting crop circle posts going back down 
on that beautiful handle of creation! 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>  
> > Shut up about rape, Nabby.  
> 
> Since you are a woman you have no idea how frustrated a man looking at only 
> pictures or films can become. You don't have to be a shrink to understand 
> that he can get so frustrated that he might run into the street and molest 
> the first girl he meets.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > Well dear Ann - astrologers can get pretty carried away and come up with
> > magical theories. In essence, from a purely theoretical perspective one
> > can, I can - devoid of all mystical, magical crap, karma, reincarnation
> > bullshit - come up with a reasonable, logical, analytical astrological
> > analysis that provides insights into one's strengths, weaknesses,
> > personality. I don't know how it works - but it does and of course it's
> not
> > an exact Science, it's more of an intuitive, analysis since the signs,
> > planets have various significations and an intelligent astrologer has to
> > put everything in the right perspective. Since you are skeptical I can do
> > one for you if you would like and you can measure the success of the
> > reading.
>
> Dear Ravi, I would love you to do whatever you want to with me. What next?
> Need birth dates etc?
>

Yes dear Ann - time of birth and place is what's needed. If you don't want
to post it here let me know.

After I sent that I was questioning if I was up for it and figured you may
not take up my offer. Anyway it should be fun :-), remember it's no magic
or vodoo or some divine intuition, just reading based on various
significations.
​​

> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula  ...>wrote:
>
> >
> > > Thanks Ann - of course my main intent was to make sure you didn't feel
> bad
> > > because I know this person's dysfunctional behavior - like I said
> still an
> > > intelligent man. Not his stupid theory. Just watched his video, could
> only
> > > tolerate about 30 seconds of it - yeah looks pathetic.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Ann  wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back
> he
> > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
> approach
> > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
> created
> > >> including one for Mac.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating.
> Here is
> > >> one link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html
> > >>
> > >> I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history,
> that
> > >> he could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design,
> > >> wardrobe and makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past
> the
> > >> low production values to the meat of the thing.
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Ann,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for
> many
> > >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > >> That's why he acts that way.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > JR
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" 
> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in
> this
> > >> forum?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had
> our
> > >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just
> couldn't
> > >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second
> hand
> > >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms
> that
> > >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling
> sideshow
> > >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just
> not
> > >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it.
> Maybe
> > >> in my next life.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Ann, Ann.
> Ann. I could not have said or thought it better!  haha

I love the way you punctuated this. 

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he 
> > > claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely 
> > > fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding 
> > > sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > > 
> > > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to 
> > > astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created 
> > > including one for Mac.
> > 
> > Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating. Here is 
> > one link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.
> > 
> > http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html
> > 
> > I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history, that 
> > he could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design, 
> > wardrobe and makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past the 
> > low production values to the meat of the thing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Ann,
> > > > 
> > > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many 
> > > > years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome. 
> > > > That's why he acts that way.
> > > > 
> > > > JR
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this 
> > > > > > forum?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our 
> > > > > first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just 
> > > > > couldn't get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's 
> > > > > second hand store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his 
> > > > > mannerisms that appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some 
> > > > > travelling sideshow magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is 
> > > > > brilliant... I'm just not evolved enough to appreciate him past the 
> > > > > superficial hilarity of it. Maybe in my next life.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Well dear Ann - astrologers can get pretty carried away and come up with
> magical theories. In essence, from a purely theoretical perspective one
> can, I can - devoid of all mystical, magical crap, karma, reincarnation
> bullshit - come up with a reasonable, logical, analytical astrological
> analysis that provides insights into one's strengths, weaknesses,
> personality. I don't know how it works - but it does and of course it's not
> an exact Science, it's more of an intuitive, analysis since the signs,
> planets have various significations and an intelligent astrologer has to
> put everything in the right perspective. Since you are skeptical I can do
> one for you if you would like and you can measure the success of the
> reading.

Dear Ravi, I would love you to do whatever you want to with me. What next? Need 
birth dates etc?
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Ann - of course my main intent was to make sure you didn't feel bad
> > because I know this person's dysfunctional behavior - like I said still an
> > intelligent man. Not his stupid theory. Just watched his video, could only
> > tolerate about 30 seconds of it - yeah looks pathetic.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Ann  wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> >> >
> >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach
> >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> >> including one for Mac.
> >>
> >> Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating. Here is
> >> one link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.
> >>
> >> http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html
> >>
> >> I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history, that
> >> he could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design,
> >> wardrobe and makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past the
> >> low production values to the meat of the thing.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Ann,
> >> > >
> >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> >> That's why he acts that way.
> >> > >
> >> > > JR
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> >> forum?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
> >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
> >> in my next life.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Ann, Ann.
Ann. I could not have said or thought it better!  haha

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he 
> > claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely 
> > fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding 
> > sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > 
> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to 
> > astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created 
> > including one for Mac.
> 
> Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating. Here is one 
> link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.
> 
> http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html
> 
> I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history, that he 
> could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design, wardrobe 
> and makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past the low 
> production values to the meat of the thing.
> > 
> > 
> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Ann,
> > > 
> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many 
> > > years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome. 
> > > That's why he acts that way.
> > > 
> > > JR
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this 
> > > > > forum?
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first 
> > > > belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get 
> > > > past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand 
> > > > store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms 
> > > > that appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling 
> > > > sideshow magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... 
> > > > I'm just not evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial 
> > > > hilarity of it. Maybe in my next life.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Well dear Ann - astrologers can get pretty carried away and come up with
magical theories. In essence, from a purely theoretical perspective one
can, I can - devoid of all mystical, magical crap, karma, reincarnation
bullshit - come up with a reasonable, logical, analytical astrological
analysis that provides insights into one's strengths, weaknesses,
personality. I don't know how it works - but it does and of course it's not
an exact Science, it's more of an intuitive, analysis since the signs,
planets have various significations and an intelligent astrologer has to
put everything in the right perspective. Since you are skeptical I can do
one for you if you would like and you can measure the success of the
reading.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> Thanks Ann - of course my main intent was to make sure you didn't feel bad
> because I know this person's dysfunctional behavior - like I said still an
> intelligent man. Not his stupid theory. Just watched his video, could only
> tolerate about 30 seconds of it - yeah looks pathetic.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Ann  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
>> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
>> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
>> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
>> >
>> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach
>> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
>> including one for Mac.
>>
>> Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating. Here is
>> one link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.
>>
>> http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html
>>
>> I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history, that
>> he could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design,
>> wardrobe and makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past the
>> low production values to the meat of the thing.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ann,
>> > >
>> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
>> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
>> That's why he acts that way.
>> > >
>> > > JR
>> > >
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
>> forum?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
>> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
>> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
>> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
>> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
>> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
>> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
>> in my next life.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ 
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>  
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" richard@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > > falls away.
> > > > >
> > Share:
> > > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do
> > > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something
> > > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > > >
> > > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > > about it...
> > > >
> > authfriend:
> > > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> > >
> > It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one:
> > the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on
> > the vibratory nature of the qualia.
> >
> > It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill
> > that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which
> > agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness
> > vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism.
> >
> > > That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
> > > science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
> > > just about everything has "something to do with the
> > > vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
> > > So you're not really saying anything of any interest...
> > >
> > It's the non-TMer theories by the  pundits like Xeno and
> > Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL!
> >
> > Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:
> >
> > "The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda',
> > both the objective exterior reality and the subjective
> > world..."
> >
> > Spanda:
> >
> > "The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is
> > usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism
> >
>
> Any relationship to the much later introduced Spandex?
>
> "The Spandex system, introduced by DuPont (c. 1959 AD) is usually
described as 'jiggly/molding of cellulite'.
>
> "The central tenet of this system is everything should be clothed in
'Spandex', both the body's exterior fleshy folds as well as the inner
layers of fat..."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandex
>
> Thoughts anyone?





>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More good news from Raja Luis

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> They speak Polish in Peru?

So funny, the first time I read it I thought the same thing. But then what is a 
"Polish" puja set or what is it to "Polish" a puja set?
> 
> 
> From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:50 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More good news from Raja Luis
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays wrote:
> >
> > Forwarded from: Margot Suettmann msuettmann@
> >
> > More news from Raja Luis:
> >
> > In Peru a presentation by the local Governors to 200 school directors
> became so full of bliss and filled with the joy of life, that the
> feeling became "viral," and resulted in the directors requesting
> Consciousness-Based Education for another 300,000 students in their
> areas.
> 
> Great news, thanks for posting. There are 27 million in that country -
> perhaps the time is ripe for learning spanish and polish the Puja-set !
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thanks Ann - of course my main intent was to make sure you didn't feel bad
because I know this person's dysfunctional behavior - like I said still an
intelligent man. Not his stupid theory. Just watched his video, could only
tolerate about 30 seconds of it - yeah looks pathetic.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Ann  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> >
> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to
> astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> including one for Mac.
>
> Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating. Here is
> one link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.
>
> http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html
>
> I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history, that
> he could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design,
> wardrobe and makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past the
> low production values to the meat of the thing.
>
> >
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > > Ann,
> > >
> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> That's why he acts that way.
> > >
> > > JR
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> forum?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > >
> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
> in my next life.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

John - yes lagna is Sagittarius, but supposedly Mars in own house doesn't
cause Kuja Dosha. Either way I myself never paid attention to Kuja dosha in
the past much when by definition ​​42% can have it - it doesn't make any
sense. Anyway Rahu is in UL, not 7th from it - may be you took Mars as the
lord of Scorpio but with Ketu as the lord it is reverse - not sure if you
use JHL. And no issues with her parents and not a different caste either,
though I did not know it beforehand but she was from a different state -
that's what Rahu could indicate.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, John  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ravi,
>
> It sounds like your lagna is Sagittarius. Mars in the 12th house means
> that you have kujadosha, which is the main candidate for your divorce.
>
> Also, Rahu is in the seventh house from the Upapada lagna and can cause a
> divorce. This feature means that one of her relatives, probably her father,
> was against the marriage in the first place. Further, it appears that she
> came from a different caste than you.
>
> JR
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > Well John it should have been clear from my description that it was a
> love
> > marriage and not an arranged. I always hated arranged marriages anyway.
> So,
> > I don't know nothing afflicting 7th or 7th lord - probably Rahu in Kumbha
> > and Upapada Lagna​. Oh and there is the drishti of Rahu from 3rd, Sani
> from
> > 5th and Mangal from 12th on the empty 7th house but that in itself may
> not
> > mean anything, 7th lord is alone, unaspected in the 1st house.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:28 PM, John  wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula  > > ...>wrote:
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
> religion.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
> dysfunctionality,
> > > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > > >
> > > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> > > attending
> > > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me
> > > why - I
> > > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her
> recent
> > > statement,
> > > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > > >
> > > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual
> > > masturbation.
> > > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that
> causes
> > > them
> > > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that
> you
> > > have
> > > > > been talking about?
> > > > >
> > > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> > > relentless
> > > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras,
> I'm the
> > > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit -
> I
> > > was
> > > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
> falling
> > > for
> > > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience -
> falling in
> > > love
> > > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> > > magical,
> > > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
> Never
> > > mind.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
> intoxicating -
> > > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could
> have
> > > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
> > > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck
> here
> > > dealing
> > > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to
> sign
> > > > up for - fuck I hate this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey Ravi,
> > >
> > > You said you were married. Was it a love marriage or an arranged one?
> If
> > > it was arranged, why do you think the marriage failed in jyotish terms.
> > >
> > > JR
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba <
> no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > >wrote:
>
> > > > >
> > > > >> **
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
>  > > >
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years
> back
> > > he
> > > > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was
> extremely
> > > > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always
> demanding
> > > > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I serious

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Buck]

>
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Origins of the ME
> > and the TM western millenarian movement:
> > 
> > "There is a much better way of helping others.  It is not to have the 
> > desire as such but to meditate so purely that there is such a wealth of 
> > goodness in the individual that anyone who is in need can come and get it 
> > naturally.  In this way it will be abundantly available to everyone, very 
> > much like the sun which does not direct its light to any single place, but 
> > anyone who wants to have help or light from the sun can take it.  So the 
> > better way is to have finer energy or more Sattva in oneself; this can be 
> > used by anybody who needs it."  
> > 
> > --Swami Shantanand Saraswati   
> > 
> >
> 
> Quote 
> Source:
>  book in LB Shriver's reading library,
> 
> Good Company
> An Anthology of
> sayings, stories, and
> answers to questions of
> His Holiness Shantanand Saraswati
> [Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math]
> The Luminary who followed Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati
> as Shankaracharya.
> 
> Do See FFL post #345760   
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/345760  
> to get the flow of the ME in modern spiritual regeneration.  
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read the story 
> > > > of Sodom and Glocca Morra. Abraham asks God how many righteous souls it 
> > > > would take for him not to destroy the cities of the plains. He bargains 
> > > > with God from about fifty down to about ten. Once the number of 
> > > > righteous drops below a certain point, God will not guarantee their 
> > > > safety from His wrath.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, the Millenarian Effect
> > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one 
> > > > > > > > > > created by revolutionary action. 
> > > > > > > > > >

A MME, Meissner Millenarian Effect. ***see Fairfieldlife message 343576, 
heaven on earth:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343576  

> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > people  meditating (as little as the square root of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > one percent of the population) can quietly transform 
> > > > > > > > > > > > trends in society from conflict and enmity to peace and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > cooperation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started as a ME 
> > > > > > > > with Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held that huge group 
> > > > > > > > puja in India that brought an end to World War II. It was a 
> > > > > > > > cover story on Life magazine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual 
> > > > > > > Regeneration bringing revolution to all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for It is 
> > > > > > good; for It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all of humanity 
> > > > > > say: 'It's steadfast love endures for ever'"
> > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > That land of Bliss and 
> > > > > Glory exists above us,
> > > > > under us, around us,
> > > > > within us, without us, if
> > > > > we open our eyes to see,
> > > > > The Unified Field.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > It is true, 
> > > > The Transcendental Movement
> > > > Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism
> > > > To Affect a Heaven on Earth.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read
> > the story of Sodom and Glocca Morra.
> 
> Say, Mike, how *are* things in Glocca Morra?
>

Great tobacco.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[John]

Ravi,

It sounds like your lagna is Sagittarius.  Mars in the 12th house means that 
you have kujadosha, which is the main candidate for your divorce.

Also, Rahu is in the seventh house from the Upapada lagna and can cause a 
divorce.  This feature means that one of her relatives, probably her father, 
was against the marriage in the first place.  Further, it appears that she came 
from a different caste than you.

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Well John it should have been clear from my description that it was a love
> marriage and not an arranged. I always hated arranged marriages anyway. So,
> I don't know nothing afflicting 7th or 7th lord - probably Rahu in Kumbha
> and Upapada Lagna​. Oh and there is the drishti of Rahu from 3rd, Sani from
> 5th and Mangal from 12th on the empty 7th house but that in itself may not
> mean anything, 7th lord is alone, unaspected in the 1st house.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:28 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula  > ...>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > >
> > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> >
> > > >
> > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality,
> > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > >
> > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> > attending
> > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me
> > why - I
> > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her recent
> > statement,
> > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > >
> > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual
> > masturbation.
> > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes
> > them
> > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > >
> > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you
> > have
> > > > been talking about?
> > > >
> > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> > relentless
> > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the
> > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > >
> > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I
> > was
> > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling
> > for
> > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in
> > love
> > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> > magical,
> > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never
> > mind.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure, intoxicating -
> > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could have
> > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
> > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck here
> > dealing
> > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to sign
> > > up for - fuck I hate this.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hey Ravi,
> >
> > You said you were married. Was it a love marriage or an arranged one? If
> > it was arranged, why do you think the marriage failed in jyotish terms.
> >
> > JR
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba  > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  > >
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back
> > he
> > > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
> > approach
> > > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
> > created
> > > >> including one for Mac.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Ann,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for
> > many
> > > >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > > >> That's why he acts that way.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > JR
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" 
> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in
> > this
> > > >> forum?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:

> It is true, 
> The Transcendental Movement
> Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism
> To Affect a Heaven on Earth.

Where is Judy when we need an editor?

The transcendental movement is a revolutionary millenarianism to affect a 
heaven on Earth.

'affect' means to influence or effect a change in

'To "affect" a heaven on Earth' implies that there might be more than one 
heaven on Earth, and that the transcendental movement will cause a change in 'a 
heaven on Earth', but not be the cause of it. And it does not say just what 
that affect will be. It could make it less heaven on Earth, for example.

What you meant to say was 'the transcendental movement will effect a heaven on 
Earth', and probably, knowing your style, not just any old heaven on Earth; so 
you probably meant to say 'the transcendental movement will effect heaven on 
Earth'.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he claimed 
> he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely fragile, 
> emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding sympathy from 
> others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> 
> Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to 
> astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created 
> including one for Mac.

Thanks Ravi, you have encouraged me to do a little investigating. Here is one 
link, but you already know all about Das Goravani.

http://www.dasgoravani.com/DasGoravani/The_Goravani_Theory.html

I still assert, despite his personal and seemingly troubled history, that he 
could use a capable production assistant to aid in his set design, wardrobe and 
makeup. Otherwise ignoramuses like me will not get past the low production 
values to the meat of the thing.
> 
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> 
> > Ann,
> > 
> > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many years. 
> > His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome. That's why 
> > he acts that way.
> > 
> > JR
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this forum?
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > 
> > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first 
> > > belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get 
> > > past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand 
> > > store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that 
> > > appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow 
> > > magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not 
> > > evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. 
> > > Maybe in my next life.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Buck]

> 
> 
> Origins of the ME
> and the TM western millenarian movement:
> 
> "There is a much better way of helping others.  It is not to have the desire 
> as such but to meditate so purely that there is such a wealth of goodness in 
> the individual that anyone who is in need can come and get it naturally.  In 
> this way it will be abundantly available to everyone, very much like the sun 
> which does not direct its light to any single place, but anyone who wants to 
> have help or light from the sun can take it.  So the better way is to have 
> finer energy or more Sattva in oneself; this can be used by anybody who needs 
> it."  
> 
> --Swami Shantanand Saraswati   
> 
>

Quote 
Source:
 book in LB Shriver's reading library,

Good Company
An Anthology of
sayings, stories, and
answers to questions of
His Holiness Shantanand Saraswati
[Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math]
The Luminary who followed Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati
as Shankaracharya.

Do See FFL post #345760   
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/345760  
to get the flow of the ME in modern spiritual regeneration.  

> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > >
> > > I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read the story 
> > > of Sodom and Glocca Morra. Abraham asks God how many righteous souls it 
> > > would take for him not to destroy the cities of the plains. He bargains 
> > > with God from about fifty down to about ten. Once the number of righteous 
> > > drops below a certain point, God will not guarantee their safety from His 
> > > wrath.
> > >
> > 
> > Yes, the Millenarian Effect
> >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one 
> > > > > > > > > created by revolutionary action. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of 
> > > > > > > > > > > people  meditating (as little as the square root of one 
> > > > > > > > > > > percent of the population) can quietly transform trends 
> > > > > > > > > > > in society from conflict and enmity to peace and 
> > > > > > > > > > > cooperation.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started as a ME 
> > > > > > > with Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held that huge group 
> > > > > > > puja in India that brought an end to World War II. It was a cover 
> > > > > > > story on Life magazine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual 
> > > > > > Regeneration bringing revolution to all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for It is 
> > > > > good; for It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all of humanity 
> > > > > say: 'It's steadfast love endures for ever'"
> > > > > -Buck
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > That land of Bliss and 
> > > > Glory exists above us,
> > > > under us, around us,
> > > > within us, without us, if
> > > > we open our eyes to see,
> > > > The Unified Field.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > It is true, 
> > > The Transcendental Movement
> > > Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism
> > > To Affect a Heaven on Earth.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Buck]

Origins of the ME
and the TM western millenarian movement:

"There is a much better way of helping others.  It is not to have the desire as 
such but to meditate so purely that there is such a wealth of goodness in the 
individual that anyone who is in need can come and get it naturally.  In this 
way it will be abundantly available to everyone, very much like the sun which 
does not direct its light to any single place, but anyone who wants to have 
help or light from the sun can take it.  So the better way is to have finer 
energy or more Sattva in oneself; this can be used by anybody who needs it."
  

--Swami Shantanand Saraswati   



> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read the story of 
> > Sodom and Glocca Morra. Abraham asks God how many righteous souls it would 
> > take for him not to destroy the cities of the plains. He bargains with God 
> > from about fifty down to about ten. Once the number of righteous drops 
> > below a certain point, God will not guarantee their safety from His wrath.
> >
> 
> Yes, the Millenarian Effect
>  
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one 
> > > > > > > > created by revolutionary action. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of people 
> > > > > > > > > >  meditating (as little as the square root of one percent 
> > > > > > > > > > of the population) can quietly transform trends in society 
> > > > > > > > > > from conflict and enmity to peace and cooperation.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started as a ME 
> > > > > > with Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held that huge group 
> > > > > > puja in India that brought an end to World War II. It was a cover 
> > > > > > story on Life magazine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual 
> > > > > Regeneration bringing revolution to all.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for It is good; 
> > > > for It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all of humanity say: 
> > > > 'It's steadfast love endures for ever'"
> > > > -Buck
> > > >
> > > 
> > > That land of Bliss and 
> > > Glory exists above us,
> > > under us, around us,
> > > within us, without us, if
> > > we open our eyes to see,
> > > The Unified Field.
> > >
> > 
> > It is true, 
> > The Transcendental Movement
> > Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism
> > To Affect a Heaven on Earth.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read the story of 
> Sodom and Glocca Morra. Abraham asks God how many righteous souls it would 
> take for him not to destroy the cities of the plains. He bargains with God 
> from about fifty down to about ten. Once the number of righteous drops below 
> a certain point, God will not guarantee their safety from His wrath.
>

Yes, the Millenarian Effect
 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created 
> > > > > > > by revolutionary action. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of people  
> > > > > > > > > meditating (as little as the square root of one percent of 
> > > > > > > > > the population) can quietly transform trends in society from 
> > > > > > > > > conflict and enmity to peace and cooperation.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started as a ME with 
> > > > > Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held that huge group puja in 
> > > > > India that brought an end to World War II. It was a cover story on 
> > > > > Life magazine.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual 
> > > > Regeneration bringing revolution to all.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for It is good; 
> > > for It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all of humanity say: 'It's 
> > > steadfast love endures for ever'"
> > > -Buck
> > >
> > 
> > That land of Bliss and 
> > Glory exists above us,
> > under us, around us,
> > within us, without us, if
> > we open our eyes to see,
> > The Unified Field.
> >
> 
> It is true, 
> The Transcendental Movement
> Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism
> To Affect a Heaven on Earth.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Michael Jackson]

Why do you think the pundits in Fairfield keep trying to get out of the 
compound? They wanna get over to the Irish whiskey and ale tasting at the 
Hy-Vee.





 From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"
 


  
Damn. This so poetic, Ravi. 
How true too. 
I know pandits who get drunk. Whiskey is a Gurjarati favorite!
Sadu morning in the fresh green way of drying herb makes a smoke taste so good 
before the early prayer..

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Paratha bill, stop irritating me please - what's martini got to do with
> being a Brahmin? Can a couple of martinis make you lose your inner freedom?
> So that must mean martini is more powerful than inner freedom?
> Self-knowledge that can be lost by a couple of martinis must mean it's not
> real.
> 
> A stupid maritini more powerful than a consciousness that recognizes and
> wakes up to its freedom - that's paratha bill's wisdom for you. Can worth
> be attached to a human? Stop being so idiotic.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM, emptybill  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Arrogance is delusional estimation of one's own worth.
> >
> > You must be joking. Only honest reflection denudes a fool from his
> > stupidity.
> >
> > Are you a just "Brahmana in name only" hanging out and drinking
> > martini's for dinner?
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > Humility is an acquired trait. It's not the Dalai Lama's well crafted,
> > inauthentic, I'll s$ck your d!ck for your money and adulation, humility.
> > Only a genuinely arrogant person can really be humble, so oh my dear
> > Paratha Bill - practice your arrogance !!!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ravioli - you are so modest. You are not just the only Brahmana left
> > in
> > > > the universe but you are Brahma Deva himself.
> > > >
> > > > No wonder everything's so fugged up.
> > > > Hail stones to your wholly name.
> > > >
> > > > om ravi gomaya ravi gomaya svaha sva-haha
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > chivukula.ravi@:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
> >
> > > > religion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
> > > > dysfunctionality,
> > > > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> > > > attending
> > > > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask
> > me
> > > > why - I
> > > > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her
> > > > recent statement,
> > > > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their
> > intellectual
> > > > masturbation.
> > > > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that
> > causes
> > > > them
> > > > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah -
> > that
> > > > you have
> > > > > > been talking about?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> > > > relentless
> > > > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras,
> > I'm
> > > > the
> > > > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit
> > - I
> > > > was
> > > > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
> > > > falling for
> > > > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience -
> > falling
> > > > in love
> > > > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> > > > magical,
> > > > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
> > > > Never mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
> > > > intoxicating -
> > > > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could
> > > > have
> > > > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life
> > so
> > > > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck
> > > > here dealing
> > > > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended
> > to
> > > > sign
> > > > > up for - fuck I hate this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba
> > > > no_reply@:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> **
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> >
> > > > > >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thank you dear. Forgive parathabill - he knows not what he does.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:05 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Damn. This so poetic, Ravi.
> How true too.
> I know pandits who get drunk. Whiskey is a Gurjarati favorite!
> Sadu morning in the fresh green way of drying herb makes a smoke taste so
> good before the early prayer..
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > Paratha bill, stop irritating me please - what's martini got to do with
> > being a Brahmin? Can a couple of martinis make you lose your inner
> freedom?
> > So that must mean martini is more powerful than inner freedom?
> > Self-knowledge that can be lost by a couple of martinis must mean it's
> not
> > real.
> >
> > A stupid maritini more powerful than a consciousness that recognizes and
> > wakes up to its freedom - that's paratha bill's wisdom for you. Can worth
> > be attached to a human? Stop being so idiotic.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM, emptybill  wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Arrogance is delusional estimation of one's own worth.
> > >
> > > You must be joking. Only honest reflection denudes a fool from his
> > > stupidity.
> > >
> > > Are you a just "Brahmana in name only" hanging out and drinking
> > > martini's for dinner?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Humility is an acquired trait. It's not the Dalai Lama's well
> crafted,
> > > inauthentic, I'll s$ck your d!ck for your money and adulation,
> humility.
> > > Only a genuinely arrogant person can really be humble, so oh my dear
> > > Paratha Bill - practice your arrogance !!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ravioli - you are so modest. You are not just the only Brahmana
> left
> > > in
> > > > > the universe but you are Brahma Deva himself.
> > > > >
> > > > > No wonder everything's so fugged up.
> > > > > Hail stones to your wholly name.
> > > > >
> > > > > om ravi gomaya ravi gomaya svaha sva-haha
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > > chivukula.ravi@:
>
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
>
> > >
> > > > > religion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
> > > > > dysfunctionality,
> > > > > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> > > > > attending
> > > > > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't
> ask
> > > me
> > > > > why - I
> > > > > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her
>
> > > > > recent statement,
> > > > > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their
>
> > > intellectual
> > > > > masturbation.
> > > > > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that
> > > causes
> > > > > them
> > > > > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah -
> > > that
> > > > > you have
> > > > > > > been talking about?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> > > > > relentless
> > > > > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras,
> > > I'm
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this
> shit
> > > - I
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
> > > > > falling for
> > > > > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience -
> > > falling
> > > > > in love
> > > > > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was
> mystical,
> > > > > magical,
> > > > > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
> > > > > Never mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
> > > > > intoxicating -
> > > > > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I
> could
> > > > > have
> > > > > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life
> > > so
> > > > > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm
> stuck
>
> > > > > here dealing
> > > > > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended
> > > to
> > > > > sign
> > > > > > up for - fuck I hate this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba
> > > > > no_reply@:
>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Damn. This so poetic, Ravi. 
How true too. 
I know pandits who get drunk. Whiskey is a Gurjarati favorite!
Sadu morning in the fresh green way of drying herb makes a smoke taste so good 
before the early prayer..

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Paratha bill, stop irritating me please - what's martini got to do with
> being a Brahmin? Can a couple of martinis make you lose your inner freedom?
> So that must mean martini is more powerful than inner freedom?
> Self-knowledge that can be lost by a couple of martinis must mean it's not
> real.
> 
> A stupid maritini more powerful than a consciousness that recognizes and
> wakes up to its freedom - that's paratha bill's wisdom for you. Can worth
> be attached to a human? Stop being so idiotic.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM, emptybill  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Arrogance is delusional estimation of one's own worth.
> >
> > You must be joking. Only honest reflection denudes a fool from his
> > stupidity.
> >
> > Are you a just "Brahmana in name only" hanging out and drinking
> > martini's for dinner?
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > Humility is an acquired trait. It's not the Dalai Lama's well crafted,
> > inauthentic, I'll s$ck your d!ck for your money and adulation, humility.
> > Only a genuinely arrogant person can really be humble, so oh my dear
> > Paratha Bill - practice your arrogance !!!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ravioli - you are so modest. You are not just the only Brahmana left
> > in
> > > > the universe but you are Brahma Deva himself.
> > > >
> > > > No wonder everything's so fugged up.
> > > > Hail stones to your wholly name.
> > > >
> > > > om ravi gomaya ravi gomaya svaha sva-haha
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > chivukula.ravi@:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
> >
> > > > religion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
> > > > dysfunctionality,
> > > > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> > > > attending
> > > > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask
> > me
> > > > why - I
> > > > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her
> > > > recent statement,
> > > > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their
> > intellectual
> > > > masturbation.
> > > > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that
> > causes
> > > > them
> > > > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah -
> > that
> > > > you have
> > > > > > been talking about?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> > > > relentless
> > > > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras,
> > I'm
> > > > the
> > > > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit
> > - I
> > > > was
> > > > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
> > > > falling for
> > > > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience -
> > falling
> > > > in love
> > > > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> > > > magical,
> > > > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
> > > > Never mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
> > > > intoxicating -
> > > > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could
> > > > have
> > > > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life
> > so
> > > > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck
> > > > here dealing
> > > > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended
> > to
> > > > sign
> > > > > up for - fuck I hate this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba
> > > > no_reply@:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> **
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > chivukula.ravi@
> >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years
> > > > back he
> > > > > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was
> > extremely
> > > > > >> fragile, emo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Paratha bill, stop irritating me please - what's martini got to do with
being a Brahmin? Can a couple of martinis make you lose your inner freedom?
So that must mean martini is more powerful than inner freedom?
Self-knowledge that can be lost by a couple of martinis must mean it's not
real.

A stupid maritini more powerful than a consciousness that recognizes and
wakes up to its freedom - that's paratha bill's wisdom for you. Can worth
be attached to a human? Stop being so idiotic.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM, emptybill  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Arrogance is delusional estimation of one's own worth.
>
> You must be joking. Only honest reflection denudes a fool from his
> stupidity.
>
> Are you a just "Brahmana in name only" hanging out and drinking
> martini's for dinner?
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Humility is an acquired trait. It's not the Dalai Lama's well crafted,
> inauthentic, I'll s$ck your d!ck for your money and adulation, humility.
> Only a genuinely arrogant person can really be humble, so oh my dear
> Paratha Bill - practice your arrogance !!!
> >
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "emptybill" emptybill@... wrote:
> >
> > > Ravioli - you are so modest. You are not just the only Brahmana left
> in
> > > the universe but you are Brahma Deva himself.
> > >
> > > No wonder everything's so fugged up.
> > > Hail stones to your wholly name.
> > >
> > > om ravi gomaya ravi gomaya svaha sva-haha
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula
> > > chivukula.ravi@...:
>
> > > >
> > > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
>
> > > religion.
> > > > >
> > > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
> > > dysfunctionality,
> > > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > > >
> > > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> > > attending
> > > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask
> me
> > > why - I
> > > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her
> > > recent statement,
> > > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > > >
> > > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their
> intellectual
> > > masturbation.
> > > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that
> causes
> > > them
> > > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah -
> that
> > > you have
> > > > > been talking about?
> > > > >
> > > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> > > relentless
> > > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras,
> I'm
> > > the
> > > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit
> - I
> > > was
> > > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
> > > falling for
> > > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience -
> falling
> > > in love
> > > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> > > magical,
> > > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
> > > Never mind.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
> > > intoxicating -
> > > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could
> > > have
> > > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life
> so
> > > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck
> > > here dealing
> > > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended
> to
> > > sign
> > > > up for - fuck I hate this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba
> > > no_reply@...:
> > > > >
> > > > >> **
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > > chivukula.ravi@
>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years
> > > back he
> > > > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was
> extremely
> > > > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always
> demanding
> > > > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt
> it.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
> > > approach
> > > > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
> > > created
> > > > >> including one for Mac.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John" jr_esq@ wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Ann,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depres

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Ways to Starve a Multi-National GMO Conglomerate

[Michael Jackson]

Brilliant!




 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Ways to Starve a Multi-National GMO 
Conglomerate
 


  
On 06/04/2013 03:17 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> Bhairitu:
>> As I pointed out the other day, just because it's at
>> the farmer's market doesn't mean it is non-GMO. Ask
>> at each booth. I asked at the booth selling ears of
>> corn and they were GMO.
>>
> Did they have a label? Otherwise, how do you know?

Apparently Willy doesn't know what a farmer's market is.  Probably 
because he buys his food at his corner liquor store. :-D


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Nabby, 
Talk to the hand.
A woman is not just a woman as in a hole to poke, to _uck, to penetrate, which 
is not a place a man lives in but is born out of, a man who is frustrated 
looking at pictures or films is about the same as how frustrated people are to 
look at that nice new car, the new computer, that prized political position 
giving power, that ipad you have been waiting for...they are all the same- 
Desire for what is not yours. 
It is the thought of a woman not having a mind to choose a mate, that makes men 
rape women, unwillingly. Willingly would be when she says, "Hey baby, tie my 
arms and legs and pretend to rape me, you  big hunk." That is when a woman's 
mind says it is okay.
A man has 2 hands, and there are lots of grapefruit to squeeze, if you know 
what I mean. 89 cents a grapefruit. Out in the wilds, free. 
Sheep, and whatever ... sorry this is for people over 18:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwegzhXAqaQ

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>  
> > Shut up about rape, Nabby.  
> 
> Since you are a woman you have no idea how frustrated a man looking at only 
> pictures or films can become. You don't have to be a shrink to understand 
> that he can get so frustrated that he might run into the street and molest 
> the first girl he meets.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
[...]
> > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > about it.
> 
> Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> philosophers and scientists, have written about them.
> 

Does someone in PC experience qualia?

It's a tricky question to ask, letalone answer.


L

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Ways to Starve a Multi-National GMO Conglomerate

[Bhairitu]

On 06/04/2013 03:17 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> Bhairitu:
>> As I pointed out the other day, just because it's at
>> the farmer's market doesn't mean it is non-GMO. Ask
>> at each booth. I asked at the booth selling ears of
>> corn and they were GMO.
>>
> Did they have a label? Otherwise, how do you know?

Apparently Willy doesn't know what a farmer's market is.  Probably 
because he buys his food at his corner liquor store. :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[emptybill]

Arrogance is delusional estimation of one's own worth.

You must be joking. Only honest reflection denudes a fool from his
stupidity.

Are you a just "Brahmana in name only" hanging out and drinking
martini's for dinner?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Humility is an acquired trait. It's not the Dalai Lama's well crafted,
inauthentic, I'll s$ck your d!ck for your money and adulation, humility.
Only a genuinely arrogant person can really be humble, so oh my dear
Paratha Bill - practice your arrogance !!!
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "emptybill" emptybill@... wrote:
>
> > Ravioli - you are so modest. You are not just the only Brahmana left
in
> > the universe but you are Brahma Deva himself.
> >
> > No wonder everything's so fugged up.
> > Hail stones to your wholly name.
> >
> > om ravi gomaya ravi gomaya svaha sva-haha
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula
> > chivukula.ravi@...:
> > >
> > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > >
> > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
> > religion.
> > > >
> > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
> > dysfunctionality,
> > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > >
> > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> > attending
> > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask
me
> > why - I
> > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her
> > recent statement,
> > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > >
> > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their
intellectual
> > masturbation.
> > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that
causes
> > them
> > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > >
> > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah -
that
> > you have
> > > > been talking about?
> > > >
> > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> > relentless
> > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras,
I'm
> > the
> > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > >
> > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit
- I
> > was
> > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
> > falling for
> > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience -
falling
> > in love
> > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> > magical,
> > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
> > Never mind.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
> > intoxicating -
> > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could
> > have
> > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life
so
> > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck
> > here dealing
> > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended
to
> > sign
> > > up for - fuck I hate this.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba
> > no_reply@...:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > chivukula.ravi@
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years
> > back he
> > > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was
extremely
> > > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always
demanding
> > > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt
it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
> > approach
> > > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
> > created
> > > >> including one for Mac.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John" jr_esq@ wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Ann,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression
for
> > many
> > > >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's
> > Syndrome.
> > > >> That's why he acts that way.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > JR
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to
be in
> > this
> > > >> forum?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just
had
> > our
> > > >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I
just
> > couldn't
> > > >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's
second
> > han

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Well John it should have been clear from my description that it was a love
marriage and not an arranged. I always hated arranged marriages anyway. So,
I don't know nothing afflicting 7th or 7th lord - probably Rahu in Kumbha
and Upapada Lagna​. Oh and there is the drishti of Rahu from 3rd, Sani from
5th and Mangal from 12th on the empty 7th house but that in itself may not
mean anything, 7th lord is alone, unaspected in the 1st house.





On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:28 PM, John  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula  ...>wrote:
>
> >
> > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > >
> > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
>
> > >
> > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality,
> > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > >
> > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> attending
> > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me
> why - I
> > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her recent
> statement,
> > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > >
> > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual
> masturbation.
> > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes
> them
> > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > >
> > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you
> have
> > > been talking about?
> > >
> > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> relentless
> > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the
> > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > >
> > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I
> was
> > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling
> for
> > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in
> love
> > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> magical,
> > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never
> mind.
> > >
> >
> > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure, intoxicating -
> > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could have
> > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
> > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck here
> dealing
> > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to sign
> > up for - fuck I hate this.
> >
> >
>
> Hey Ravi,
>
> You said you were married. Was it a love marriage or an arranged one? If
> it was arranged, why do you think the marriage failed in jyotish terms.
>
> JR
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba  >wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  >
>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back
> he
> > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
> approach
> > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
> created
> > >> including one for Mac.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Ann,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for
> many
> > >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > >> That's why he acts that way.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > JR
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" 
> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in
> this
> > >> forum?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had
> our
> > >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just
> couldn't
> > >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second
> hand
> > >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms
> that
> > >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling
> sideshow
> > >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just
> not
> > >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it.
> Maybe
> > >> in my next life.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
> > >> wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> 
> > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> >
> > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> >
> > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality,
> > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> >
> > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> > think he just went there to mock everyone.  Anyway​ her recent statement,
> > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> >
> > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual masturbation.
> > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes them
> > to perpetuate this deception?
> >
> > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you have
> > been talking about?
> >
> > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, relentless
> > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the
> > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> >
> > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
> > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling for
> > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in love
> > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, magical,
> > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never mind.
> >
> 
> And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure, intoxicating -
> she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could have
> loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
> miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck here dealing
> with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to sign
> up for - fuck I hate this.
> 
>

Hey Ravi,

You said you were married.  Was it a love marriage or an arranged one?  If it 
was arranged, why do you think the marriage failed in jyotish terms.

JR





 
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> >> >
> >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach
> >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> >> including one for Mac.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Ann,
> >> > >
> >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> >> That's why he acts that way.
> >> > >
> >> > > JR
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> >> forum?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
> >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
> >> in my next life.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Humility is not to be trusted, niceness not to be trusted - it can always
be corrupted, be tainted.

I'm unmoved by humility and niceness.

When someone gets angry at me, displays arrogance they have my attention, I
get excited - I know it is authentic and soon would follow some useful
insight into that person.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
>
>> To put it another way paratha bill.
>>
>> I always question my humility - I always question myself if I was being
>> sincere, honest and innocent in my expression of humility. I can never be
>> sure - I can never guarantee my humility being untainted, uncorrupted by my
>> self-interest.
>>
>> But I never question my arrogance - I know it's always an honest,
>> sincere, authentic and innocent expression.
>>
>
> ​Hence - arrogance is more authentic than humility.
> ​
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Ravi Chivukula > > wrote:
>>
>>> No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
>>> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
>>> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
>>> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
>>>
>>> Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to
>>> astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
>>> including one for Mac.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ann,
>>>
>>> Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
>>> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
>>> That's why he acts that way.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
>>> forum?
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
>>> >
>>> > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
>>> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
>>> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
>>> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
>>> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
>>> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
>>> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
>>> in my next life.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> To put it another way paratha bill.
>
> I always question my humility - I always question myself if I was being
> sincere, honest and innocent in my expression of humility. I can never be
> sure - I can never guarantee my humility being untainted, uncorrupted by my
> self-interest.
>
> But I never question my arrogance - I know it's always an honest, sincere,
> authentic and innocent expression.
>

​Hence - arrogance is more authentic than humility.
​


>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
>
>> No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
>> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
>> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
>> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
>>
>> Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to
>> astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
>> including one for Mac.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Ann,
>>
>> Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
>> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
>> That's why he acts that way.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
>> forum?
>> > >
>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
>> >
>> > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first
>> belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get
>> past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand store
>> garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
>> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
>> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
>> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
>> in my next life.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

To put it another way paratha bill.

I always question my humility - I always question myself if I was being
sincere, honest and innocent in my expression of humility. I can never be
sure - I can never guarantee my humility being untainted, uncorrupted by my
self-interest.

But I never question my arrogance - I know it's always an honest, sincere,
authentic and innocent expression.




On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
>
> Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to
> astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> including one for Mac.
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> That's why he acts that way.
>
> JR
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this forum?
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> >
> > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first
> belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get
> past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand store
> garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
> in my next life.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
 
> Shut up about rape, Nabby.  

Since you are a woman you have no idea how frustrated a man looking at only 
pictures or films can become. You don't have to be a shrink to understand that 
he can get so frustrated that he might run into the street and molest the first 
girl he meets.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Humility is an acquired trait. It's not the Dalai Lama's well crafted, 
inauthentic, I'll s$ck your d!ck for your money and adulation, humility. Only a 
genuinely arrogant person can really be humble, so oh my dear Paratha Bill - 
practice your arrogance !!!


On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "emptybill"  wrote:

> Ravioli - you are so modest. You are not just the only Brahmana left in
> the universe but you are Brahma Deva himself.
> 
> No wonder everything's so fugged up.
> Hail stones to your wholly name.
> 
> om ravi gomaya ravi gomaya svaha sva-haha
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula
> chivukula.ravi@...wrote:
> >
> > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > >
> > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
> religion.
> > >
> > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
> dysfunctionality,
> > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > >
> > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
> attending
> > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me
> why - I
> > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her
> recent statement,
> > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > >
> > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual
> masturbation.
> > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes
> them
> > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > >
> > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that
> you have
> > > been talking about?
> > >
> > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
> relentless
> > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm
> the
> > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > >
> > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I
> was
> > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
> falling for
> > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling
> in love
> > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
> magical,
> > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
> Never mind.
> > >
> >
> > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
> intoxicating -
> > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could
> have
> > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
> > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck
> here dealing
> > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to
> sign
> > up for - fuck I hate this.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba
> no_reply@yahoogroups.comwrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> chivukula.ravi@
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years
> back he
> > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
> approach
> > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
> created
> > >> including one for Mac.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John" jr_esq@ wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Ann,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for
> many
> > >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's
> Syndrome.
> > >> That's why he acts that way.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > JR
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in
> this
> > >> forum?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had
> our
> > >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just
> couldn't
> > >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second
> hand
> > >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his
> mannerisms that
> > >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling
> sideshow
> > >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm
> just not
> > >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of
> it. Maybe
> > >> in my next life.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Step right up and Rub the Ravi belly of eternity. Get it right here!
> > No match made in heaven, just banging good Brahmin pure bred lucky Ravi 
> > will relieve your tensions and keep pain away. Wait! Disclaimer: Pain is 
> > part of the process, poetic use only. Back to the show! Our Rub the Ravi 
> > Chia Pet can be purchased with any of what you gots. 
> > Taxes and tags not included. Interest rates may vary. 
> > 
> >
> 
> Swami Gulabjamunanda is the greatest guru who ever lived, offering the best 
> enlightenment that money can buy, and even he can't compete with Ravi.
> 

Yeah - Swami GJ Ananda knows I really fancy him. I get real excited upon 
meeting his pure sugary, gratifying, intoxicating self.

> 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[emptybill]

Ravioli - you are so modest. You are not just the only Brahmana left in
the universe but you are Brahma Deva himself.

No wonder everything's so fugged up.
Hail stones to your wholly name.

om ravi gomaya ravi gomaya svaha sva-haha


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@...wrote:
>
> > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> >
> > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by
religion.
> >
> > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their
dysfunctionality,
> > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> >
> > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's
attending
> > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me
why - I
> > think he just went there to mock everyone.  Anyway​ her
recent statement,
> > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> >
> > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual
masturbation.
> > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes
them
> > to perpetuate this deception?
> >
> > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that
you have
> > been talking about?
> >
> > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless,
relentless
> > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm
the
> > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> >
> > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I
was
> > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by
falling for
> > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling
in love
> > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical,
magical,
> > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps.
Never mind.
> >
>
> And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure,
intoxicating -
> she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could
have
> loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
> miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck
here dealing
> with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to
sign
> up for - fuck I hate this.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba
no_reply@yahoogroups.comwrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years
back he
> >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> >> >
> >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical
approach
> >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he
created
> >> including one for Mac.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John" jr_esq@ wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Ann,
> >> > >
> >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for
many
> >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's
Syndrome.
> >> That's why he acts that way.
> >> > >
> >> > > JR
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in
this
> >> forum?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had
our
> >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just
couldn't
> >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second
hand
> >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his
mannerisms that
> >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling
sideshow
> >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm
just not
> >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of
it. Maybe
> >> in my next life.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Step right up and Rub the Ravi belly of eternity. Get it right here!
> No match made in heaven, just banging good Brahmin pure bred lucky Ravi will 
> relieve your tensions and keep pain away. Wait! Disclaimer: Pain is part of 
> the process, poetic use only. Back to the show! Our Rub the Ravi Chia Pet can 
> be purchased with any of what you gots. 
> Taxes and tags not included. Interest rates may vary.   
> 
>

Swami Gulabjamunanda is the greatest guru who ever lived, offering the best 
enlightenment that money can buy, and even he can't compete with Ravi.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

LOL, love it dear.

On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:10 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> Step right up and Rub the Ravi belly of eternity. Get it right here!
> No match made in heaven, just banging good Brahmin pure bred lucky Ravi will 
> relieve your tensions and keep pain away. Wait! Disclaimer: Pain is part of 
> the process, poetic use only. Back to the show! Our Rub the Ravi Chia Pet can 
> be purchased with any of what you gots. 
> Taxes and tags not included. Interest rates may vary. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> wrote:
> >
> > Right dear, now you know the one who comforts, soothes is the real enemy 
> > because reality doesn't soothe or comfort. Reality's a bitch and the Ravi 
> > the only real Pandit, Brahmin. Ah - that feels good. LOL.
> > 
> > 
> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 3:36 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > 
> > > Another good wrte. 
> > > It is pathetic, the ways of the mystical feelings we feel or we think we 
> > > feel, because again, they are all temporary. The best non attachment to 
> > > these things that sway us. A child sees a red balloon and wants it. Cries 
> > > when it flies away. 
> > > We all want every good feeling to last forever and they is why we as a 
> > > species are drawn to those who appear to have answers of comfort, the 
> > > mystical, the sexual, etc.
> > > Shudras! The answer is Pandits are Shudras! Could very well be.
> > > When money becomes their goal, what else but a broom is needed to clean 
> > > up the mess left behind? 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > > 
> > > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> > > > 
> > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, 
> > > > their
> > > > lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > > 
> > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why 
> > > > - I
> > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her recent statement,
> > > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > > 
> > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual 
> > > > masturbation.
> > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes 
> > > > them
> > > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > > 
> > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you 
> > > > have
> > > > been talking about?
> > > > 
> > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, 
> > > > relentless in
> > > > the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the 
> > > > only
> > > > Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > > 
> > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
> > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling 
> > > > for
> > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in 
> > > > love
> > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, 
> > > > magical,
> > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never 
> > > > mind.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back 
> > > > > > he
> > > > > claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > > > > fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > > > > sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical 
> > > > > > approach to
> > > > > astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> > > > > including one for Mac.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ann,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for 
> > > > > > > many
> > > > > years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > > > > That's why he acts that way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JR
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in 
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > forum?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my hu

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Step right up and Rub the Ravi belly of eternity. Get it right here!
No match made in heaven, just banging good Brahmin pure bred lucky Ravi will 
relieve your tensions and keep pain away. Wait! Disclaimer: Pain is part of the 
process, poetic use only. Back to the show! Our Rub the Ravi Chia Pet can be 
purchased with any of what you gots. 
Taxes and tags not included. Interest rates may vary.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Right dear, now you know the one who comforts, soothes is the real enemy 
> because reality doesn't soothe or comfort. Reality's a bitch and the Ravi the 
> only real Pandit, Brahmin. Ah - that feels good. LOL.
> 
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 3:36 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> > Another good wrte. 
> > It is pathetic, the ways of the mystical feelings we feel or we think we 
> > feel, because again, they are all temporary. The best non attachment to 
> > these things that sway us. A child sees a red balloon and wants it. Cries 
> > when it flies away. 
> > We all want every good feeling to last forever and they is why we as a 
> > species are drawn to those who appear to have answers of comfort, the 
> > mystical, the sexual, etc.
> > Shudras! The answer is Pandits are Shudras! Could very well be.
> > When money becomes their goal, what else but a broom is needed to clean up 
> > the mess left behind? 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > > 
> > > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> > > 
> > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, 
> > > their
> > > lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > > 
> > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - 
> > > I
> > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her recent statement,
> > > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > > 
> > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual 
> > > masturbation.
> > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes them
> > > to perpetuate this deception?
> > > 
> > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you have
> > > been talking about?
> > > 
> > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, relentless 
> > > in
> > > the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the only
> > > Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > > 
> > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
> > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling for
> > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in 
> > > love
> > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, magical,
> > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never 
> > > mind.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> > > > claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > > > fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > > > sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach 
> > > > > to
> > > > astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> > > > including one for Mac.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ann,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> > > > years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > > > That's why he acts that way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JR
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> > > > forum?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> > > > first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just 
> > > > couldn't
> > > > get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> > > > store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms 
> > > > that
> > > > appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> > > > magician. Other tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> 
> > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> >
> > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> >
> > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality,
> > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> >
> > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> > think he just went there to mock everyone.  Anyway​ her recent statement,
> > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> >
> > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual masturbation.
> > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes them
> > to perpetuate this deception?
> >
> > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you have
> > been talking about?
> >
> > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, relentless
> > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the
> > only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> >
> > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
> > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling for
> > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in love
> > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, magical,
> > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never mind.
> >
> 
> And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure, intoxicating -
> she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could have
> loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
> miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck here dealing
> with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to sign
> up for - fuck I hate this.

Exactly.

> 
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> >> >
> >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach
> >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> >> including one for Mac.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Ann,
> >> > >
> >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> >> That's why he acts that way.
> >> > >
> >> > > JR
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> >> forum?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
> >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
> >> in my next life.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, V3.02

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

This image of Rue Mouffetard illustrates the difference between what we
see with our eyes, and what cameras record. The eye and brain do some
heavy duty processing so that our experience is quite luminous, with
bright light and shadow filled with light. When we take a picuture, the
camera records a linear range of brightnesses without the visual
compensations that we provide, I suppose say that developed via
evolution. Also the camera has a more limited range of contrast. Here is
Barry's original photo:

>[https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/580660_61147590\
2\
> 209880_1729325346_n.jpg]
> Rue Mouffetard.

I ran this picture through some software that aims to restore, at least
partially, the perceptual effect of the way the brain and eye process a
scene. It partially compensates for the way a camera reproduces a scene,
and makes it slightly more like the way we see an image. But it cannot
do everything. For example, the sky is nearly blank white. There is
photometric evidence in the image the sky may have been blue, but that
evidence is so slight, it is unreliable. The camera's sensor was
saturated so the only way to know what color the sky was would be to ask
Barry what he remembers when he took the picture, and that could be
'added' to fake it, and make it look perhaps more like the original
scene. Here is the version of Barry's image adjusted more or less
scientifically to a human visual perception, withing the limits of what
his camera was able to record (a cell phone camera perhaps).

Rue Mouffetard with visual processing.
[http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/or/509727527/name/turq-rue-mouffet\
ard.jpg]

This is very urban. Mostly I have lived in suburban environments. That
is sub-urban. A little more out-in-the-country like. I have rarely lived
in big cities where buildings are this crowded together. Barry must like
this. The aerial views of Leiden also show rather dense population
outside of the parks

Cobblestone street. Once, cities, long ago probably had very narrow
streets. Only people walking. Then came horses and wagons. The streets
got a little wider. In the 19th century, automobiles showed up, and
streets got a little wider. Now we have large lorries (trucks for you
Americans) that require a large turning radius to get around corners,
and so streets are now designed even wider. This street in Paris looks
as if it harks back to the 19th century and even before, when life was a
bit less frantic as far as travel speed.

Paris is a huge city. For those wanting a detailed view here is a link
to a 26GP size image of Paris. This picture has about 25 thousand times
more detail than the image Barry posted here:

http://www.paris-26-gigapixels.com/index-en.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[laughinggull108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > falls away.
> > > >
> Share:
> > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > >
> > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > about it...
> > >
> authfriend:
> > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> >
> It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
> the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
> the vibratory nature of the qualia. 
> 
> It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill 
> that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which 
> agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness 
> vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism. 
> 
> > That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
> > science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
> > just about everything has "something to do with the
> > vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
> > So you're not really saying anything of any interest...
> >
> It's the non-TMer theories by the  pundits like Xeno and 
> Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL!
> 
> Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:
> 
> "The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda', 
> both the objective exterior reality and the subjective 
> world..."
> 
> Spanda:
> 
> "The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is 
> usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism
>

Any relationship to the much later introduced Spandex?

"The Spandex system, introduced by DuPont (c. 1959 AD) is usually described as 
'jiggly/molding of cellulite'.

"The central tenet of this system is everything should be clothed in 'Spandex', 
both the body's exterior fleshy folds as well as the inner layers of fat..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandex

Thoughts anyone?

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Dear Nabby,
Really? 
So a man who watches porn and beats off to the images that has extinguished his 
loins, is going to rape a woman? 
Nabby, when a husband is horny and he gets some, at least most of the time 
after one or two times, heh, he can't get it up for a while because he is 
exhausted. The same with a man who watches porn, is out of "stuff," and usually 
rests. 
Most men I know who watch porn, get off on porn end of story. 
Rape has been going on in India just as long as any other place with and 
without porn. It is just reported about in the media more now a days.
I know lots of women who were raped by their brothers, by their fathers and 
father's friends. It is not talked about much and was happening before the 
invention of the VCR.. yes, it is sick.
Let's say when people rape 8 year old girls, one usually hears those 
confessions of guilt by the women when they are over their 30's. The women feel 
guilty. 
Shut up about rape, Nabby. You are a man and do not know what women get, 
because most women do not share those stories... and their are many more than 
reported.. Have a nice day. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > 
> > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> > 
> > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, their
> > lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > 
> > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> > think he just went there to mock everyone.  
> 
> Anyway​ her recent statement, porn's causing increased rape in India.
> 
> 
> 
> With the availability of internet rapidly improoving in India it makes sense 
> and it's certainly one of the better statements I've heard from Amma.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Right dear, now you know the one who comforts, soothes is the real enemy 
because reality doesn't soothe or comfort. Reality's a bitch and the Ravi the 
only real Pandit, Brahmin. Ah - that feels good. LOL.


On Jun 4, 2013, at 3:36 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> Another good wrte. 
> It is pathetic, the ways of the mystical feelings we feel or we think we 
> feel, because again, they are all temporary. The best non attachment to these 
> things that sway us. A child sees a red balloon and wants it. Cries when it 
> flies away. 
> We all want every good feeling to last forever and they is why we as a 
> species are drawn to those who appear to have answers of comfort, the 
> mystical, the sexual, etc.
> Shudras! The answer is Pandits are Shudras! Could very well be.
> When money becomes their goal, what else but a broom is needed to clean up 
> the mess left behind? 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > 
> > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> > 
> > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, their
> > lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > 
> > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anyway​ her recent statement,
> > porn's causing increased rape in India.
> > 
> > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual masturbation.
> > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes them
> > to perpetuate this deception?
> > 
> > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you have
> > been talking about?
> > 
> > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, relentless in
> > the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the only
> > Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> > 
> > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
> > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling for
> > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in love
> > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, magical,
> > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never mind.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> > > claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > > fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > > sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > > >
> > > > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to
> > > astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> > > including one for Mac.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ann,
> > > > >
> > > > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> > > years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > > That's why he acts that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > JR
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> > > forum?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> > > first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
> > > get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> > > store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> > > appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> > > magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> > > evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. 
> > > Maybe
> > > in my next life.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Another good wrte. 
It is pathetic, the ways of the mystical feelings we feel or we think we feel, 
because again, they are all temporary. The best non attachment to these things 
that sway us. A child sees a red balloon and wants it. Cries when it flies 
away. 
We all want every good feeling to last forever and they is why we as a species 
are drawn to those who appear to have answers of comfort, the mystical, the 
sexual, etc.
Shudras!  The answer is Pandits are Shudras!  Could very well be.
When money becomes their goal, what else but a broom is needed to clean up the 
mess left behind? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> 
> Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> 
> One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, their
> lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> 
> And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> think he just went there to mock everyone.  Anyway​ her recent statement,
> porn's causing increased rape in India.
> 
> And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual masturbation.
> God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes them
> to perpetuate this deception?
> 
> Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you have
> been talking about?
> 
> A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, relentless in
> the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the only
> Brahmin in this entire Universe.
> 
> Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
> never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling for
> my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in love
> with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, magical,
> wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never mind.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> > claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> > fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> > sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> > >
> > > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to
> > astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> > including one for Mac.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ann,
> > > >
> > > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> > years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> > That's why he acts that way.
> > > >
> > > > JR
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> > forum?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> > first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
> > get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> > store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> > appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> > magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> > evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
> > in my next life.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
>
> Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
>
> One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality,
> their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
>
> And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> think he just went there to mock everyone.  Anyway​ her recent statement,
> porn's causing increased rape in India.
>
> And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual masturbation.
> God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes them
> to perpetuate this deception?
>
> Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you have
> been talking about?
>
> A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, relentless
> in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the
> only Brahmin in this entire Universe.
>
> Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
> never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling for
> my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in love
> with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, magical,
> wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never mind.
>

And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure, intoxicating -
she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could have
loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so
miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. ​Damn - now I'm stuck here dealing
with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to sign
up for - fuck I hate this.


>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
>> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
>> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
>> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
>> >
>> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach
>> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
>> including one for Mac.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ann,
>> > >
>> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
>> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
>> That's why he acts that way.
>> > >
>> > > JR
>> > >
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
>> forum?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
>> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
>> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
>> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
>> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
>> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
>> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
>> in my next life.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ 
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, V3.02

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

This image of Rue Mouffetard illustrates the difference between what we
see with our eyes, and what cameras record. The eye and brain do some
heavy duty processing so that our experience is quite luminous, with
bright light and shadow filled with light. When we take a picuture, the
camera records a linear range of brightnesses without the visual
compensations that we provide, I suppose say that developed via
evolution. Also the camera has a more limited range of contrast. Here is
Barry's original photo:

>[https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/580660_61147590\
2\
> 209880_1729325346_n.jpg]
> Rue Mouffetard.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo, 6/15

[Richard J. Williams]

> > David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at
> > Bonnaroo, 6/15
> >
> At best, the Lynch gang will be laughed off the 
> stage...
> 
nablusoss: 
> Don't you have anything better to do?
> 
Probably not - it's difficult these days to get
a good job when you haven't taken a single college
course and the only experience is being a baker
for a year at a religious school and you can't
even spell good. 

What else would he be doing right now? 

Once a waiter, always a waiter - just ask Kirk 
Bernhardt, MIU class of '86, the TMO cook. Kirk's
been a cook down in New Orleans for what, 27 or
more years? LoL!

There's nothing like a good education in order 
to get ahead. I've read that you need a B..A. to 
get an entry-level job at McDonald's. Go figure.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Mike Dixon]

My favorite Archie Bunkerism, Sodom and Glocca Morra.


From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

  
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
wrote:
>
> I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read
> the story of Sodom and Glocca Morra.

Say, Mike, how *are* things in Glocca Morra?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More good news from Raja Luis

[Mike Dixon]

They speak Polish in Peru?


From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:50 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More good news from Raja Luis

  


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays wrote:
>
> Forwarded from: Margot Suettmann msuettmann@...
>
> More news from Raja Luis:
>
> In Peru a presentation by the local Governors to 200 school directors
became so full of bliss and filled with the joy of life, that the
feeling became "viral," and resulted in the directors requesting
Consciousness-Based Education for another 300,000 students in their
areas.

Great news, thanks for posting. There are 27 million in that country -
perhaps the time is ripe for learning spanish and polish the Puja-set !

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Jun 4, 2013, at 2:55 PM, nablusoss1008  wrote:

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> > 
> > Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> > 
> > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, their
> > lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> > 
> > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> > think he just went there to mock everyone. 
> 
> Anyway​ her recent statement, porn's causing increased rape in India.
> 
> With the availability of internet rapidly improoving in India it makes sense 
> and it's certainly one of the better statements I've heard from Amma.
> 

Are you kidding me Nabs? There wasn't porn in India and it was much worse. 
Medieval, ravaging Islamic invaders raping women isn't part of Indian history 
books - for me it explains the still prevailing conservative attitude towards 
women in North India compared to South India. And like my friend Eric said on 
my FB chat she can't stop the Brahmacharis from masturbating or from the 
Brahmacharinis from indulging in lesbian sex, that ashram does nothing but 
encourage all kinds of life-abnegating dysfunctional behavior and various other 
repressive, perverted practices. That porn increases rape statement will no 
doubt be challenged by researchers.
> 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Ways to Starve a Multi-National GMO Conglomerate

[Richard J. Williams]

Bhairitu:
> As I pointed out the other day, just because it's at 
> the farmer's market doesn't mean it is non-GMO. Ask 
> at each booth. I asked at the booth selling ears of 
> corn and they were GMO.
>
Did they have a label? Otherwise, how do you know?

One guy I know drives all the way across town just to
get some un-sulphured raisins. He probably is the cause
of global warming. Go figure.

 
> If we all put the pressure on and walk away when it 
> is GMO eventually the farmers will tell Monsanto and 
> the other GMO companies to get lost.
>
So, what your point? All human food will be GMO after 
the human climate change sets in. LoL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo, 6/15

[Richard J. Williams]

mjackson74:
> I know a lot of people to go to Bonaroo every year. 
> Most of them are there to smoke dope, drink liquor 
> and have a big time with music, not listen to 
> pitch-men offer them something they can't deliver. 
> At best, the Lynch gang will be laughed off the 
> stage. 
> 
Maybe so, but if the Lynch gang levitate over the
concert, all the artists and audience will be very
impressed! 

> The David Lynch Foundation will launch its new 
> performance division, DLF Live, at the Bonnaroo 
> Music and Arts Festival on June 15, 2013...

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo, 6/15

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
  At best, the Lynch gang will be laughed off the stage.



Don't you have anything better to do ?



  
> From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 3:51 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at
Bonnaroo, 6/15
>
>
>
> Â
> The David Lynch Foundation will launch its new performance division,
DLF Live, at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival on June 15, 2013. DLF
Live will harness the power of arts and creativity to bring meditation
to at-risk communities. The launch will be marked by a screening of
Meditation, Creativity, Peace, a documentary highlighting filmmaker
David Lynch and his decades-long dedication to meditation and the arts.
The screening is sponsored by the David Lynch Foundation (DLF) and will
be hosted by James McCartney, musician and son of legend Paul McCartney
and Bob Roth, Executive Director of DLF.
> DLF Live will produce concerts, film festivals, stand-up comedy shows,
film competitions, conferences and arts events to support the work of
the David Lynch Foundation. All proceeds will go towards DLF's work to
bring healing through meditation to underserved communities. One of DLF
Live's goals will be to raise funds to teach meditation to 1,000,000
at-risk youth around the world over the next five years. DLF Live's
Board of Advisors includes music industry leaders Russell Simmons,
Scooter Braun, Dan McCarroll and Craig Kallman.
> "Transcendental Meditation and creativity are beautifully and
naturally connected, as music, film, the arts and meditation all
communicate on the deepest level of consciousness," said David Lynch.
"What better place to launch DLF Live than at Bonnaroo, a festival where
art rules the day." DLF has previously produced benefit concerts and
events featuring Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Wynton Marsalis, Martin
Scorsese, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Brand and Dr. Mehmet Oz.
>
> Read more about David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo,
6/15 - BWWMusicWorld by music.broadwayworld.com
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways to Starve a Multi-National GMO Conglomerate

[Bhairitu]

On 06/04/2013 12:57 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/10-ways-to-starve-a-multi-national-gmo-conglomerate-05302013
>
>

As I pointed out the other day, just because it's at the farmer's market 
doesn't mean it is non-GMO.  Ask at each booth.  I asked at the booth 
selling ears of corn and they were GMO.

If we all put the pressure on and walk away when it is GMO eventually 
the farmers will tell Monsanto and the other GMO companies to get lost.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.
> 
> Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.
> 
> One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, their
> lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.
> 
> And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
> her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
> think he just went there to mock everyone.  

Anyway​ her recent statement, porn's causing increased rape in India.



With the availability of internet rapidly improoving in India it makes sense 
and it's certainly one of the better statements I've heard from Amma.

[FairfieldLife] Re: More good news from Raja Luis

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays wrote:
>
> Forwarded from: Margot Suettmann msuettmann@...
>
> More news from Raja Luis:
>
> In Peru a presentation by the local Governors to 200 school directors
became so full of bliss and filled with the joy of life, that the
feeling became "viral," and resulted in the directors requesting
Consciousness-Based Education for another 300,000 students in their
areas.


Great news, thanks for posting. There are 27 million in that country -
perhaps the time is ripe for learning spanish and polish the Puja-set !

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it.

Triple threat to the ​true inner search symbolized by religion.

One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, their
lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion.

And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's attending
her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me why - I
think he just went there to mock everyone.  Anyway​ her recent statement,
porn's causing increased rape in India.

And then idiots like Jim & Xeno here​ and their intellectual masturbation.
God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes them
to perpetuate this deception?

Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you have
been talking about?

A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, relentless in
the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm the only
Brahmin in this entire Universe.

Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I was
never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling for
my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in love
with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, magical,
wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never mind.



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he
> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely
> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding
> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> >
> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to
> astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created
> including one for Mac.
> >
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > > Ann,
> > >
> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many
> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.
> That's why he acts that way.
> > >
> > > JR
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this
> forum?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > >
> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our
> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't
> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand
> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that
> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow
> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not
> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe
> in my next life.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Share Long]

Richard, I would love to see Wilbur hooked up to an fMRI and then start 
producing both ordinary and higher states of consciousness.  Anyway, doesn't 
Maharishi talk about soma as the junction point between matter and spirit?  
Anybody remember?  As for the definition, I don't agree.  I'd say that 
consciousness is the state of being conscious.  It's a state not a having, not 
any kind of doing.

I think the hard problem is like the eye trying to see itself.  




 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
 


  


Share Long:
> ...everything is about vibration but do we understand 
> everything about the deepest nature of vibration and 
> its functioning?
>
Apparently the really hard question is the definition 
of consciousness, so that makes discussion of altered 
states of consciousness even more difficult. So, what 
we need is an operational definition of consciousness.

The Blackwell Companion to Consciousness:

Consciousness—The having of perceptions, thoughts, 
and feelings; awareness.

> I think not and that I think is at the basis of 
> understanding why we perceive colors and smells and 
> sounds, etc. 
>
For TMers the most thorough account of the spiritual 
approach may be Ken Wilber who compares western and 
eastern ways of thinking about the mind and 
consciousness. 

> Maybe something to do with resonance between stimuli 
> and receptor cells.  As yet, the instruments of
> measurement aren't built to measure at these levels, 
> which I will add for the sake of the materialists 
> among us, is nonetheless a material level.

> Soma?
>
Mycologists have proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, 
that the Vedic Soma, the Elixir of Immortality, was a 
decoction formulated with an alkaloid which in most 
cases resulted in spiritual euphoria, even religious 
ecstasy. The consumption of Soma was prescribed by the
rishis, for God's sake, Share. It's in the Ayerveda 
formulary of the Dhanvantari! LoL!

> As I'm writing this it comes to me that there is 
> a level that is probably both material and non 
> material like emptybill's Spanda.  Let's build the 
> instruments to measure that!
> 
According to Wilber, consciousness is a 'spectrum', 
with ordinary awareness is at one end, and more 
profound types of awareness are found at higher 
levels.

Work cited:

'The Spectrum of Consciousness'
by Ken Wilber
pp. 3–16 

> > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > falls away.
> > > >
> Share:
> > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > >
> > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > about it...
> > >
> authfriend:
> > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> >
> It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
> the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
> the vibratory nature of the qualia. 
> 
> It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill 
> that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which 
> agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness 
> vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism. 
> 
> > That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
> > science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
> > just about everything has "something to do with the
> > vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
> > So you're not really saying anything of any interest...
> >
> It's the non-TMer theories by the  pundits like Xeno and 
> Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL!
> 
> Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:
> 
> "The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda', 
> both the objective exterior reality and the subjective 
> world..."
> 
> Spanda:
> 
> "The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is 
> usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Ravi Chivukula]

Right and someone like ​the sophisticated "me" comes along and offers
tremendous insights into other "me"'s - especially the Xeno "me", the
Grandpa Xeno "me"

What does the "me" of Grandpa Xeno show - the "me" of the Xeno shows a
pretty effed up "me" that fantasizes on enlightenment and Unity, that has
wrapped up these into a philosophy, into a way of living, that is
inauthentic, that has alienated from reality.

The interesting question for me is - is the sophisticated "me" hitting the
core delusion of the Grandpa Xeno "me"?



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> To go back to the original statement you made above 'there is *something
> it is like* to be you, to be me', etc., this, from Nagels paper, might have
> more than one interpretation depending on one's state of experience.
>
> Now for me, everything is like what it is like because it just is that
> way, without embellishment, but there is nothing like what it is to be me.
> There is a sense of personhood in that the eyes see from a particular point
> of reference, but it is very peculiar in that there is no sense that the
> vision of the eyes is something to do with an entity, a me. The sense of me
> is like a vacuum, it feels cored out. It is rather odd if the attention
> goes to looking for it.
>
> When you look for where and what the me is, what do you find? Do you find
> anything at all? And if a person is engaged in spiritual practices, does
> this 'me' maintain a constant identity as they progress? I think this
> question may have different answers for different people. Exactly what is a
> 'me'? How do you describe to someone else what a 'me' is. Does a plant have
> a 'me'. Does a squirrel have a 'me'?, does a bacterium have a 'me'? At what
> point in an evolutionary scale does a 'me' come to be and what are its
> properties? Are there any laws that apply to being a 'me' or a 'not-me'?
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] More good news from Raja Luis

[Dick Mays]

Forwarded from: Margot Suettmann 

More news from Raja Luis:

In Peru a presentation by the local Governors to 200 school directors became so 
full of bliss and filled with the joy of life, that the feeling became "viral," 
and resulted in the directors requesting Consciousness-Based Education for 
another 300,000 students in their areas.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[authfriend]

Share, please read my response to you, not just the quotes
from it in Richard's post.

My response ends with this:

It's not going to help with the hard problem. You're just
on the wrong track with this, Share. You can't get there
from here.

That's the bottom line with regard to the hard problem.
Leave it to the folks who understand what it is.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ok, Judy, yes everything is about vibration but do we understand everything 
> about the deepest nature of vibration and its functioning?  I think not and 
> that I think is at the basis of understanding why we perceive colors and 
> smells and sounds, etc.  Maybe something to do with resonance between 
> stimuli and receptor cells.  As yet, the instruments of measurement aren't 
> built to measure at these levels, which I will add for the sake of the 
> materialists among us, is nonetheless a material level.  Soma?  As I'm 
> writing this it comes to me that there is a level that is probably both 
> material and non material like emptybill's Spanda.  Let's build the 
> instruments to measure that!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Richard J. Williams 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 1:02 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > falls away.
> > > >
> Share:
> > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > >
> > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > about it...
> > >
> authfriend:
> > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> >
> It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
> the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
> the vibratory nature of the qualia. 
> 
> It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill 
> that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which 
> agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness 
> vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism. 
> 
> > That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
> > science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
> > just about everything has "something to do with the
> > vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
> > So you're not really saying anything of any interest...
> >
> It's the non-TMer theories by the  pundits like Xeno and 
> Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL!
> 
> Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:
> 
> "The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda', 
> both the objective exterior reality and the subjective 
> world..."
> 
> Spanda:
> 
> "The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is 
> usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
> > > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > > falls away.
> > > > >
> > Share:
> > > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > > >
> > > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > > about it...
> > > >
> > authfriend:
> > > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> > >
> > It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
> > the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
> > the vibratory nature of the qualia.
> 
> Uh, no. Don't encourage her. She's confused enough already.

To go back to the original statement you made above 'there is *something it is 
like* to be you, to be me', etc., this, from Nagels paper, might have more than 
one interpretation depending on one's state of experience. 

Now for me, everything is like what it is like because it just is that way, 
without embellishment, but there is nothing like what it is to be me. There is 
a sense of personhood in that the eyes see from a particular point of 
reference, but it is very peculiar in that there is no sense that the vision of 
the eyes is something to do with an entity, a me. The sense of me is like a 
vacuum, it feels cored out. It is rather odd if the attention goes to looking 
for it. 

When you look for where and what the me is, what do you find? Do you find 
anything at all? And if a person is engaged in spiritual practices, does this 
'me' maintain a constant identity as they progress? I think this question may 
have different answers for different people. Exactly what is a 'me'? How do you 
describe to someone else what a 'me' is. Does a plant have a 'me'. Does a 
squirrel have a 'me'?, does a bacterium have a 'me'? At what point in an 
evolutionary scale does a 'me' come to be and what are its properties? Are 
there any laws that apply to being a 'me' or a 'not-me'?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Richard J. Williams]

Share Long:
> ...everything is about vibration but do we understand 
> everything about the deepest nature of vibration and 
> its functioning?
>
Apparently the really hard question is the definition 
of consciousness, so that makes discussion of altered 
states of consciousness even more difficult. So, what 
we need is an operational definition of consciousness.

The Blackwell Companion to Consciousness:

Consciousness—The having of perceptions, thoughts, 
and feelings; awareness.

> I think not and that I think is at the basis of 
> understanding why we perceive colors and smells and 
> sounds, etc. 
>
For TMers the most thorough account of the spiritual 
approach may be Ken Wilber who compares western and 
eastern ways of thinking about the mind and 
consciousness. 

> Maybe something to do with resonance between stimuli 
> and receptor cells.  As yet, the instruments of
> measurement aren't built to measure at these levels, 
> which I will add for the sake of the materialists 
> among us, is nonetheless a material level.

> Soma?
>
Mycologists have proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, 
that the Vedic Soma, the Elixir of Immortality, was a 
decoction formulated with an alkaloid which in most 
cases resulted in spiritual euphoria, even religious 
ecstasy. The consumption of Soma was prescribed by the
rishis, for God's sake, Share. It's in the Ayerveda 
formulary of the Dhanvantari! LoL!

> As I'm writing this it comes to me that there is 
> a level that is probably both material and non 
> material like emptybill's Spanda.  Let's build the 
> instruments to measure that!
> 
According to Wilber, consciousness is a 'spectrum', 
with ordinary awareness is at one end, and more 
profound types of awareness are found at higher 
levels.

Work cited:

'The Spectrum of Consciousness'
by Ken Wilber
pp. 3–16 

> > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > falls away.
> > > >
> Share:
> > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > >
> > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > about it...
> > >
> authfriend:
> > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> >
> It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
> the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
> the vibratory nature of the qualia. 
> 
> It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill 
> that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which 
> agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness 
> vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism. 
> 
> > That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
> > science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
> > just about everything has "something to do with the
> > vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
> > So you're not really saying anything of any interest...
> >
> It's the non-TMer theories by the  pundits like Xeno and 
> Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL!
> 
> Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:
> 
> "The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda', 
> both the objective exterior reality and the subjective 
> world..."
> 
> Spanda:
> 
> "The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is 
> usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo, 6/15

[Michael Jackson]

I know a lot of people to go to Bonaroo every year. Most of them are there to 
smoke dope, drink liquor and have a big time with music, not listen to 
pitch-men offer them something they can't deliver. At best, the Lynch gang will 
be laughed off the stage. 





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 3:51 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo, 
6/15
 


  
The David Lynch Foundation will launch its new performance division, DLF Live, 
at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival on June 15, 2013. DLF Live will harness 
the power of arts and creativity to bring meditation to at-risk communities. 
The launch will be marked by a screening of Meditation, Creativity, Peace, a 
documentary highlighting filmmaker David Lynch and his decades-long dedication 
to meditation and the arts. The screening is sponsored by the David Lynch 
Foundation (DLF) and will be hosted by James McCartney, musician and son of 
legend Paul McCartney and Bob Roth, Executive Director of DLF.
DLF Live will produce concerts, film festivals, stand-up comedy shows, film 
competitions, conferences and arts events to support the work of the David 
Lynch Foundation. All proceeds will go towards DLF's work to bring healing 
through meditation to underserved communities. One of DLF Live's goals will be 
to raise funds to teach meditation to 1,000,000 at-risk youth around the world 
over the next five years. DLF Live's Board of Advisors includes music industry 
leaders Russell Simmons, Scooter Braun, Dan McCarroll and Craig Kallman.
"Transcendental Meditation and creativity are beautifully and naturally 
connected, as music, film, the arts and meditation all communicate on the 
deepest level of consciousness," said David Lynch. "What better place to launch 
DLF Live than at Bonnaroo, a festival where art rules the day." DLF has 
previously produced benefit concerts and events featuring Paul McCartney, Ringo 
Starr, Wynton Marsalis, Martin Scorsese, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Brand and Dr. 
Mehmet Oz.

Read more about David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo, 6/15 - 
BWWMusicWorld by music.broadwayworld.com
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Richard J. Williams]

> > > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > > falls away.
> > > > >
> > Share:
> > > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > > >
> > > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > > about it...
> > > >
> > authfriend:
> > > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> > >
Richard:
> > It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
> > the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
> > the vibratory nature of the qualia.
> >
authfriend:
> Uh, no. Don't encourage her. She's confused enough already.
>
Uh, yes. Share hit the nail on the head. Maybe emptybill
was confused. Go figure.

"Maharishi's idea of the expansion of the "I" to cosmic 
dimensions is not founded upon Shankara's Kevala Advaita 
but rather upon the teaching of Kashmiri Shaivism.  It is 
this teaching about Shiva's "Aham" (I) contracting 
through Anava mala to become the illusioned and powerless 
individual (anu) and then expanding to realize it's real 
status as Shiva that is the source of this idea. He 
received this view from Swami Lakshman Joo and not from 
SBS. 

That is why SCI has little to do with Shankara's Advaita. 
This is likewise true of MMY's Rig Veda bhasya which 
reads like Kashmiri Shaivism couched in psycho-quantum 
mechanics." - emptybill

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/345270

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[merudanda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oNiuDuEVllc#t=9\
0s


Aaah  forget this particular bird (hopeless but not serious)of the
Leprecauns of Gort na Gloca Mora,
Does that laddie/With the twinklin' eye/Come whistlin' by/And does he
walk away/Sad and dreamy there/Not to see you there
there at end of the rainbow

and,my dear Judy, don't you know:
The whole world is turning into a regular Sodom and Glocca Morra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anuDJ2pvdho

Are you frightened, for a wind
Crept along the grass to say
Something that was in your mind
Yesterday—?
Let metell you
Something
Something that You did not know
Could be found out by the wind,
You had buried it so low
In your mind.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
> >
> > I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read
> > the story of Sodom and Glocca Morra.
>
> Say, Mike, how *are* things in Glocca Morra?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[card]

> Spanda:
> 
> "The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is 
> usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism
>

yasyonmeSa-nimeSaabhyaaM jagataH pralayodayau
taM shakti-cakra-vibhava-prabhavaM shankaraM stumaH!

-- spanda-kaarikaa

[FairfieldLife] 10 Ways to Starve a Multi-National GMO Conglomerate

[nablusoss1008]

http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/10-ways-to-starve-a-multi-national-gmo-conglomerate-05302013

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo, 6/15

[nablusoss1008]

  [David-Lynch-Foundation-to-Launch-DLF-Live-at-Bonnaroo-615-20010101]

The David Lynch Foundation
  will
launch its new performance division, DLF Live
 , at the Bonnaroo Music
and Arts Festival
 
on June 15, 2013. DLF Live will harness the power of arts and creativity
to bring meditation to at-risk communities. The launch will be marked by
a screening of Meditation, Creativity, Peace, a documentary highlighting
filmmaker David Lynch and his decades-long dedication to meditation and
the arts. The screening is sponsored by the David Lynch Foundation
  (DLF) and
will be hosted by James McCartney, musician and son of legend Paul
McCartney   and
Bob Roth, Executive Director of DLF.

DLF Live will produce concerts, film festivals, stand-up comedy shows,
film competitions, conferences and arts events to support the work of
the David Lynch Foundation
 . All
proceeds will go towards DLF's work to bring healing through meditation
to underserved communities. One of DLF Live's goals will be to raise
funds to teach meditation to 1,000,000 at-risk youth around the world
over the next five years. DLF Live's Board of Advisors includes music
industry leaders Russell Simmons, Scooter Braun, Dan McCarroll and Craig
Kallman.

"Transcendental Meditation
  and
creativity are beautifully and naturally connected, as music, film, the
arts and meditation all communicate on the deepest level of
consciousness," said David Lynch. "What better place to launch DLF Live
than at Bonnaroo, a festival where art rules the day." DLF has
previously produced benefit concerts and events featuring Paul
McCartney, Ringo Starr, Wynton Marsalis, Martin Scorsese, Ellen
DeGeneres, Russell Brand
  and Dr. Mehmet
Oz.


Read more about David Lynch Foundation to Launch DLF Live at Bonnaroo,
6/15 - BWWMusicWorld
  by 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 music.broadwayworld.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Share Long]

Ok, Judy, yes everything is about vibration but do we understand everything 
about the deepest nature of vibration and its functioning?  I think not and 
that I think is at the basis of understanding why we perceive colors and smells 
and sounds, etc.  Maybe something to do with resonance between stimuli and 
receptor cells.  As yet, the instruments of measurement aren't built to measure 
at these levels, which I will add for the sake of the materialists among us, is 
nonetheless a material level.  Soma?  As I'm writing this it comes to me that 
there is a level that is probably both material and non material like 
emptybill's Spanda.  Let's build the instruments to measure that!





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 1:02 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
 


  


> > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > falls away.
> > >
Share:
> > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > yet to be understood by modern science.
> >
> > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > about it...
> >
authfriend:
> Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
>
It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
the vibratory nature of the qualia. 

It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill 
that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which 
agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness 
vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism. 

> That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
> science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
> just about everything has "something to do with the
> vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
> So you're not really saying anything of any interest...
>
It's the non-TMer theories by the  pundits like Xeno and 
Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL!

Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:

"The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda', 
both the objective exterior reality and the subjective 
world..."

Spanda:

"The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is 
usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he claimed 
> he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely fragile, 
> emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding sympathy from 
> others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.
> 
> Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to 
> astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created 
> including one for Mac.
> 
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:
> 
> > Ann,
> > 
> > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many years. 
> > His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome. That's why 
> > he acts that way.
> > 
> > JR
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this forum?
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > > 
> > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first 
> > > belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get 
> > > past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand 
> > > store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that 
> > > appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow 
> > > magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not 
> > > evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. 
> > > Maybe in my next life.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read
> the story of Sodom and Glocca Morra.

Say, Mike, how *are* things in Glocca Morra?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ravi Chivukula]

No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he claimed 
he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely fragile, 
emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding sympathy from 
others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it.

Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach to 
astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created including 
one for Mac.


On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John"  wrote:

> Ann,
> 
> Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many years. 
> His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome. That's why he 
> acts that way.
> 
> JR
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this forum?
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> > 
> > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first 
> > belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get 
> > past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand store 
> > garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that 
> > appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow 
> > magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not 
> > evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe 
> > in my next life.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Mike Dixon]

I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read the story of 
Sodom and Glocca Morra. Abraham asks God how many righteous souls it would take 
for him not to destroy the cities of the plains. He bargains with God from 
about fifty down to about ten. Once the number of righteous drops below a 
certain point, God will not guarantee their safety from His wrath.


From: Buck 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

  

>
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created by 
> > > > > > revolutionary action. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of people  
> > > > > > > > meditating (as little as the square root of one percent of the 
> > > > > > > > population) can quietly transform trends in society from 
> > > > > > > > conflict and enmity to peace and cooperation.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started as a ME with 
> > > > Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held that huge group puja in 
> > > > India that brought an end to World War II. It was a cover story on Life 
> > > > magazine.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual Regeneration 
> > > bringing revolution to all.
> > >
> > 
> > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for It is good; for 
> > It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all of humanity say: 'It's 
> > steadfast love endures for ever'"
> > -Buck
> >
> 
> That land of Bliss and 
> Glory exists above us,
> under us, around us,
> within us, without us, if
> we open our eyes to see,
> The Unified Field.
>

It is true, 
The Transcendental Movement
Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism
To Affect a Heaven on Earth.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > > falls away.
> > > >
> Share:
> > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > > yet to be understood by modern science.
> > >
> > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > > about it...
> > >
> authfriend:
> > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> > philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
> >
> It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
> the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
> the vibratory nature of the qualia.

Uh, no. Don't encourage her. She's confused enough already.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Bhairitu]

I think that many "doctors" would classify about any tech geek as having 
Asperger's.  It takes unusual people to do unusual and interesting 
things.  We certainly don't want everyone on the planet to be "the norm" 
or the average bumpkin.   What a boring world that would be.

On 06/04/2013 10:18 AM, John wrote:
> Ann,
>
> Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON.  He suffered depression for many years.  
> His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.  That's why 
> he acts that way.
>
> JR
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>>> Jyotish according to Das Goravani.  Does he qualify to be in this forum?
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
>> Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first 
>> belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get past 
>> the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand store garb, 
>> the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that appeared akin 
>> to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow magician. Other 
>> than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not evolved enough to 
>> appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe in my next life.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Richard J. Williams]

> > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > > falls away.
> > >
Share:
> > But my speculation is that it might have something to do 
> > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something 
> > yet to be understood by modern science.
> >
> > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> > about it...
> >
authfriend:
> Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
> functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
> philosophers and scientists, have written about them...
>
It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: 
the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on 
the vibratory nature of the qualia. 

It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill 
that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which 
agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness 
vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism. 

> That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
> science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
> just about everything has "something to do with the
> vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
> So you're not really saying anything of any interest...
>
It's the non-TMer theories by the  pundits like Xeno and 
Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL!

Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:

"The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda', 
both the objective exterior reality and the subjective 
world..."

Spanda:

"The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is 
usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

[Richard J. Williams]

Share Long:
> ...asking the important questions!
>
Why are sense perceptions often prone to 
error?

> OTOH, sense perception is what we got...
>
So, how can we tell that our conviction is 
more reliable than the erroneous view?

We can appeal to our other senses for some
corroboration. We can compare our opinion 
with past experiences; we can repeat the 
experiment; we can appeal to instruments;
or we can invoke the testimony of others. 

In this case we have the testimony of 
Barry, who saw with his own eyes Rama 
levitate and hover inside a lecture hall 
and fill the whole room with golden light. 

You're probably thinking that Dr. Pete 
would say that Barry was hallucinating, or
stoned, but Barry testified that a whole 
group of people saw this happen.

According to Barry, your consciousness 
goes to a limbo state called 'Bardo', after 
death; there to wait a little while, and 
then to be reborn as another soul-monad 
with a new personality and consciousness.

So, it's really all settled: we have the 
sworn testimony of Barry about the 
mechanics of consciousness AND the answer 
to what happens to us when we die.

If anyone disagrees with this, let them 
keep their pie-holes shut, because where 
I come from silence usually indicates 
agreement, and nobody has refuted Barry's 
testimony since 2003. 

Except maybe Judy, who said Barry was a 
liar, although I don't think even Judy has 
disputed Barry's tale of the Rama hover
event.

"I studied with a guy who could turn huge 
rooms in convention centers gold, to the 
point where even the security guards saw 
it, but that never made me think he was 
enlightened, only that he could do cool 
things with light." - Uncle Tantra 2003 

Go figure.

> > ...I used to think Thomas lacked faith. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[John]

Ann,

Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON.  He suffered depression for many years.  
His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome.  That's why he 
acts that way.

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Jyotish according to Das Goravani.  Does he qualify to be in this forum?
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> 
> Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first belly 
> laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get past the 
> band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand store garb, the 
> psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that appeared akin to a 
> really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow magician. Other than 
> that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not evolved enough to 
> appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe in my next life.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Judy I was replying to the phrase something it is like to be you.

Yes, Share, I assumed that's what you were replying to.

> That's what reminded me of Iness Amness Isness.

And as I said, I don't think that has anything to do
with the "hard problem."

> Thanks for the article about the hard problem. I've read it
> a few times now. My first response is that we don't know
> enough about the brain to understand how we experience qualia.

Yes, that's why it's called "the hard problem," you see.

> But my speculation is that it might have something to do with
> the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something yet to be
> understood by modern science.

That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern
science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand,
just about everything has "something to do with the
vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another.
So you're not really saying anything of any interest.

> Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote
> about it.

Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a
functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people,
philosophers and scientists, have written about them.

> But they did so in code. Of course at this moment I remember
> no titles of what I've read about this but maybe some of the
> Vedic scholars here can help out.

It's not going to help with the hard problem. You're just
on the wrong track with this, Share. You can't get there
from here.


> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:23 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Judy what this reminds me of is Maharishi's explanation that
> > the three deepest levels of individuality are what he calls
> > Iness, Amness, Isness, the latter being the deepest.  I like
> > the word Isness because IMO it best avoids the connotation of
> > an object, which so many phrases used in this context are
> > unable to avoid.
> 
> Honestly, Share, I don't think the "hard problem" has much
> of anything to do with this explanation of Maharishi's. I
> think you miss what the discussion is about and thoroughly
> confuse the issue if you try to see it in those very
> esoteric terms.
> 
> Again, I'd recommend you have a look at Wikipedia's page:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness
> 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:24 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about 
> > Consciousness
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > 
> > snip
> > 
> > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > falls away.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

[Share Long]

Richard, asking the important questions!  I ditto this question, Dr. PS.  OTOH, 
sense perception is what we got.  But if our senses are so accurate, then how 
come there are sounds that dogs can hear that we can't?  I go by my senses 
rather than my knowledge for example when a red pickup truck is heading 
straight at my body.  I mean, I know it's mostly empty space, but I get out of 
the way.  Why doesn't knowledge trump in this situation?  I think it's because 
my sense perception is not highly developed and that if it was, the truck and I 
would pass right through each other.   





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> Until I stick my fingers into the wounds in his side, I'll pass on this one! 
> Back in the day when I was a young TM pup I used to think Thomas lacked 
> faith. Now I realize that he was the wisest of the disciples. He was nobody's 
> fool!

So, how much faith do you have in sense perception?

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > In 1973, I met a follower of Yogananda whose GF was a TM teacher living 
> > > in Switzerland while MMY was there. HE told me a story she told him that 
> > > she arrived early for an appointment and peeked her head in the door to 
> > > his room and found him floating above the ground. I protested, saying 
> > > that if MMY was at the point where he could do that kind of thing, he 
> > > would have known she was about to enter the room and would have made sure 
> > > she didn't see anything because that was his thing: to keep his own state 
> > > of consciousness a secret.
> > > 
> > > Nearly 40 years later, after practicing the TM-Sidhis for almost 29 
> > > years, I now realize that the ability to float during TM-Sidhis doesn't 
> > > mean that much as far as one's ability to be able to do some other 
> > > arbitrary siddhi while engaging in the first.
> > > 
> > > Doesn't mean that she really did see him floating, but the purported 
> > > incident took place 5 years or so after the conversation with the 
> > > Beatles, so it's not a contradiction: in 1968, MMY wasn't doing Yogic 
> > > Flying. In 1973, allegedly, he was.
> > > 
> > > L
> > 
> > Taping of his room at the Kulm was often done remotely from the video-bus 
> > parked outside the building. Once one of the operators, name witheld for 
> > this crowd of nay-sayers, sat down in front of the monitor which was 
> > directed at Maharish's couch only to see Maharishi slowly arriving at the 
> > sofa... from above.
> >
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Share Long]

Judy I was replying to the phrase something it is like to be you.  That's what 
reminded me of Iness Amness Isness.  Thanks for the article about the hard 
problem.  I've read it a few times now.  My first response is that we don't 
know enough about the brain to understand how we experience qualia.  But my 
speculation is that it might have something to do with the vibratory nature of 
energy and matter, something yet to be understood by modern science.  Though I 
think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote about it.  But they did so in 
code.  Of course at this moment I remember no titles of what I've read about 
this but maybe some of the Vedic scholars here can help out.  





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Judy what this reminds me of is Maharishi's explanation that
> the three deepest levels of individuality are what he calls
> Iness, Amness, Isness, the latter being the deepest.  I like
> the word Isness because IMO it best avoids the connotation of
> an object, which so many phrases used in this context are
> unable to avoid.

Honestly, Share, I don't think the "hard problem" has much
of anything to do with this explanation of Maharishi's. I
think you miss what the discussion is about and thoroughly
confuse the issue if you try to see it in those very
esoteric terms.

Again, I'd recommend you have a look at Wikipedia's page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:24 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> 
> snip
> 
> What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> falls away.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[obbajeeba]

Yes! Yes! Yes!  Clipboard Paste!  hahahhaaha!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Jyotish according to Das Goravani.  Does he qualify to be in this forum?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Once and Future Meditating Movement

[Richard J. Williams]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Hey LB, good to have you back. What sorts of computers do they have up
> there? And how about the internet connection? Fiber Optic, or do they have
> something even better?
> 
They probably have mind to mind direct contact, Rick.

> 
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of L BS
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 4:30 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Once and Future Meditating Movement
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Without the organizing and facilitating efforts of our revolutionary
> millenarian meditating movement, without the practicing meditator as the
> mainstay of the mediating community, Humanity can never achieve a
> millenarian's heaven on earth. *** 
> ***see heaven on earth:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343576 
> > 
> > The meditating movement is the core of leadership of the practicing
> meditator. Without this core, the cause of the ME cannot be victorious. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > A well-disciplined meditating movement armed with the theory and
> practice of the ME, using the method of transcending meditation and linked
> with groups of transcending meditators; an army of such transcendentalists
> under the leadership of such a movement; a united front of all revolutionary
> spiritually regenerative meditators and all revolutionary group
> transcendentalist meditations under the leadership of such a revolutionary
> and millenarian [belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created
> by revolutionary action] movement -these are the three main weapons with
> which we have to defeat that enemy of spiritless materialism.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Ongoing, we must have trust in our masses of practicing meditators and
> we must have trust in the meditating movement. These are two cardinal
> principles. If we doubt these principles, we shall accomplish nothing. 
> > > > -Buck
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Buck, you do realize that according to standard scientific research
> methods that the ME does not exist? The studies have so many methodological
> flaws that they can not be taken seriously. I wish there was a ME but there
> isn't. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Armed with the scientific ME theory and our transcendentalist
> spiritual experience the meditating movement has brought a new style of
> thinking to life, a new style of living which essentially entails
> integrating scientific theory with spiritual practice, forging close links
> of the practicing meditator anywhere and groups coming together practicing
> meditation in groups everywhere. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The meditating movement must become one with the meditator
> community so that they may see it as their own movement. Such a movement
> will be invincible.
> > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let's avert the danger, shall we Buck, rather than crushing
> anyone!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > From: Buck 
> > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>   
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:13 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Important change in the
> Invincible America Assembly
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Every meditator must be helped to understand that as long as
> we rely on the meditating movement, believe firmly in the inexhaustible
> creative power of the meditating community and hence trust and identify
> ourselves with them, then we can surmount any difficulty, and no enemy can
> crush us while we can crush any enemy. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Enemy?"
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I think you've misunderstood the purpose of the
> "Invincible America" course.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Invincibility" means to inspire everyone to want to be a
> genuine friend, so that one has no enemies.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > L
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, I am addressing my comments here to the post-Maharishi
> leadership of our movement and our meditating community. This is proven
> advice that I freely bring to their tables. As Winston Churchill once
> advised his people at the end of his life, "Stick with the Americans". 
> > > > > > > > > With Great Respect,
> > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

[Richard J. Williams]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> Until I stick my fingers into the wounds in his side, I'll pass on this one! 
> Back in the day when I was a young TM pup I used to think Thomas lacked 
> faith. Now I realize that he was the wisest of the disciples. He was nobody's 
> fool!

So, how much faith do you have in sense perception?

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > In 1973, I met a follower of Yogananda whose GF was a TM teacher living 
> > > in Switzerland while MMY was there. HE told me a story she told him that 
> > > she arrived early for an appointment and peeked her head in the door to 
> > > his room and found him floating above the ground. I protested, saying 
> > > that if MMY was at the point where he could do that kind of thing, he 
> > > would have known she was about to enter the room and would have made sure 
> > > she didn't see anything because that was his thing: to keep his own state 
> > > of consciousness a secret.
> > > 
> > > Nearly 40 years later, after practicing the TM-Sidhis for almost 29 
> > > years, I now realize that the ability to float during TM-Sidhis doesn't 
> > > mean that much as far as one's ability to be able to do some other 
> > > arbitrary siddhi while engaging in the first.
> > > 
> > > Doesn't mean that she really did see him floating, but the purported 
> > > incident took place 5 years or so after the conversation with the 
> > > Beatles, so it's not a contradiction: in 1968, MMY wasn't doing Yogic 
> > > Flying. In 1973, allegedly, he was.
> > > 
> > > L
> > 
> > Taping of his room at the Kulm was often done remotely from the video-bus 
> > parked outside the building. Once one of the operators, name witheld for 
> > this crowd of nay-sayers, sat down in front of the monitor which was 
> > directed at Maharish's couch only to see Maharishi slowly arriving at the 
> > sofa... from above.
> >
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Once and Future Meditating Movement

[Rick Archer]

Hey LB, good to have you back. What sorts of computers do they have up
there? And how about the internet connection? Fiber Optic, or do they have
something even better?

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of L BS
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 4:30 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Once and Future Meditating Movement

 

  



Without the organizing and facilitating efforts of our revolutionary
millenarian meditating movement, without the practicing meditator as the
mainstay of the mediating community, Humanity can never achieve a
millenarian's heaven on earth. *** 
***see heaven on earth:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343576 
> 
> The meditating movement is the core of leadership of the practicing
meditator. Without this core, the cause of the ME cannot be victorious. 
> 
> > 
> > A well-disciplined meditating movement armed with the theory and
practice of the ME, using the method of transcending meditation and linked
with groups of transcending meditators; an army of such transcendentalists
under the leadership of such a movement; a united front of all revolutionary
spiritually regenerative meditators and all revolutionary group
transcendentalist meditations under the leadership of such a revolutionary
and millenarian [belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created
by revolutionary action] movement -these are the three main weapons with
which we have to defeat that enemy of spiritless materialism.
> > 
> > >
> > > Ongoing, we must have trust in our masses of practicing meditators and
we must have trust in the meditating movement. These are two cardinal
principles. If we doubt these principles, we shall accomplish nothing. 
> > > -Buck
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Buck, you do realize that according to standard scientific research
methods that the ME does not exist? The studies have so many methodological
flaws that they can not be taken seriously. I wish there was a ME but there
isn't. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Armed with the scientific ME theory and our transcendentalist
spiritual experience the meditating movement has brought a new style of
thinking to life, a new style of living which essentially entails
integrating scientific theory with spiritual practice, forging close links
of the practicing meditator anywhere and groups coming together practicing
meditation in groups everywhere. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The meditating movement must become one with the meditator
community so that they may see it as their own movement. Such a movement
will be invincible.
> > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let's avert the danger, shall we Buck, rather than crushing
anyone!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > From: Buck 
> > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:13 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Important change in the
Invincible America Assembly
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Every meditator must be helped to understand that as long as
we rely on the meditating movement, believe firmly in the inexhaustible
creative power of the meditating community and hence trust and identify
ourselves with them, then we can surmount any difficulty, and no enemy can
crush us while we can crush any enemy. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "Enemy?"
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I think you've misunderstood the purpose of the
"Invincible America" course.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "Invincibility" means to inspire everyone to want to be a
genuine friend, so that one has no enemies.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > L
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, I am addressing my comments here to the post-Maharishi
leadership of our movement and our meditating community. This is proven
advice that I freely bring to their tables. As Winston Churchill once
advised his people at the end of his life, "Stick with the Americans". 
> > > > > > > > With Great Respect,
> > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > As we go forward as a meditating movement we must make a
distinction between the anti-meditation enemy and ourselves, and we must not
adopt

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

[Richard J. Williams]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Well you know as asinine as this theory is, there might
> > actually be some merit in it if you consider Marshy real
> > personality. I mean if he was really scared someone would
> > string him up if he levitated, yet he was more than
> > willing to have his gullible followers do the
> > demonstrations for him and let them take the risk, yeah I
> > can believe it since he was a self serving sob.
> 
> I believe the hypothetical assumed Maharishi could levitate
> but not any of his followers (see the last paragraph below
> from Lawson's post).
> 
We have eyewitnesses that levitation is possible.
And MMY weighed less than Rama.

> > 
> > But there was never any risk because regardless of Nabby fantasy about his 
> > friends vision and other stories, Marshy could fly about as well as any of 
> > the yogic flyer demonstrators over the years which is to say not at all.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Ann 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 9:27 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I disagree. I don't know if MMY could fly or not, but really, do you 
> > > think he would have lived very long if he demonstrated Yogic Flying to 
> > > the masses?
> > 
> > Interesting theory and one I had not considered; sort of like witch 
> > burnings by the superstitious and closed minded masses. I am not so sure 
> > you are correct however. Half of the world would want to revere him and the 
> > other half might cry "demon", or "witch" or "devil" or other wonderfully 
> > colourful term. The world is a funny place. Even if Jesus Christ himself 
> > appeared there would be those willing to nail him up all over again. If MMY 
> > could fly like a bird I don't think part of his reason for not doing so in 
> > public would be because he was afraid of a burning or stoning by the 
> > horrified masses.
> > > 
> > >  TM centers throughout the world would be burned to the ground shortly 
> > > afterwards, and that could still happen today, 35 years after he started 
> > > making the claim.
> > > 
> > > Not saying that anyone associated with the TM organization ever has or 
> > > ever will float ala the TM-Sidhis, just saying that there's practical 
> > > reasons NOT not to be the one lone floater in the world. Better to let 
> > > people accept the idea gradually as Everyman eventually shows HE can do 
> > > it (assuming it can be done).
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Richard J. Williams]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Judy what this reminds me of is Maharishi's explanation that
> > the three deepest levels of individuality are what he calls
> > Iness, Amness, Isness, the latter being the deepest.  I like
> > the word Isness because IMO it best avoids the connotation of
> > an object, which so many phrases used in this context are
> > unable to avoid.
> 
> Honestly, Share, I don't think the "hard problem" has much
> of anything to do with this explanation of Maharishi's. I
> think you miss what the discussion is about and thoroughly
> confuse the issue if you try to see it in those very
> esoteric terms.
> 
> Again, I'd recommend you have a look at Wikipedia's page:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness
> 
Wiki-Judy. Someone just post a definition of the term consciousness.

 > 
> 
> 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:24 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about 
> > Consciousness
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > 
> > snip
> > 
> > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> > falls away.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Buck]

>
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created by 
> > > > > > revolutionary action. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of people  
> > > > > > > > meditating (as little as the square root of one percent of the 
> > > > > > > > population) can quietly transform trends in society from 
> > > > > > > > conflict and enmity to peace and cooperation.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started as a ME with 
> > > > Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held that huge group puja in 
> > > > India that brought an end to World War II.  It was a cover story on 
> > > > Life magazine.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual Regeneration 
> > > bringing revolution to all.
> > >
> > 
> > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for It is good; for 
> > It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all of humanity say: 'It's 
> > steadfast love endures for ever'"
> > -Buck
> >
> 
> That land of Bliss and 
> Glory exists above us,
> under us, around us,
> within us, without us, if
> we open our eyes to see,
> The Unified Field.
>

It is true, 
The Transcendental Movement
Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism
To Affect a Heaven on Earth.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Judy what this reminds me of is Maharishi's explanation that
> the three deepest levels of individuality are what he calls
> Iness, Amness, Isness, the latter being the deepest.  I like
> the word Isness because IMO it best avoids the connotation of
> an object, which so many phrases used in this context are
> unable to avoid.

Honestly, Share, I don't think the "hard problem" has much
of anything to do with this explanation of Maharishi's. I
think you miss what the discussion is about and thoroughly
confuse the issue if you try to see it in those very
esoteric terms.

Again, I'd recommend you have a look at Wikipedia's page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness





> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:24 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> 
> snip
> 
> What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
> simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
> *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
> You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
> makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
> falls away.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

[Buck]

>
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism:
> > > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created by 
> > > > > revolutionary action. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of people  
> > > > > > > meditating (as little as the square root of one percent of the 
> > > > > > > population) can quietly transform trends in society from conflict 
> > > > > > > and enmity to peace and cooperation.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started as a ME with Guru 
> > > Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held that huge group puja in India that 
> > > brought an end to World War II.  It was a cover story on Life magazine.
> > >
> > 
> > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual Regeneration 
> > bringing revolution to all.
> >
> 
> Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for It is good; for 
> It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all of humanity say: 'It's 
> steadfast love endures for ever'"
> -Buck
>

That land of Bliss and 
Glory exists above us,
under us, around us,
within us, without us, if
we open our eyes to see,
The Unified Field.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

[Share Long]

Judy what this reminds me of is Maharishi's explanation that the three deepest 
levels of individuality are what he calls Iness, Amness, Isness, the latter 
being the deepest.  I like the word Isness because IMO it best avoids the 
connotation of an object, which so many phrases used in this context are unable 
to avoid.




 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:

snip

What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very
simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is
*something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett.
You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it
makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just
falls away.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Jyotish according to Das Goravani.  Does he qualify to be in this forum?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls

Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our first belly 
laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't get past the band 
aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand store garb, the 
psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that appeared akin to a 
really hilarious takeoff of some travelling sideshow magician. Other than that 
I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just not evolved enough to appreciate him 
past the superficial hilarity of it. Maybe in my next life.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4
> > >
> >
>