[FairfieldLife] RE: The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year?

2013-08-29 Thread awoelflebater













Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I wish I knew dear Bob - now that you say it it did look like a reindeer
standing up like a human and with horns. Damn..LOL.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:24 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Doubt she's representative of all Goans, although she did have a certain
> terminal uniqueness about her.
>
>
> I love your story, it didn't happened to be Christmas did it? If it did, I
> might speculate on whether it was Santa or one of the Reindeer you saw
> (they stop in Goa you know).
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9sKpDSAQ7I
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> That was funny dear Bob, not sure why she was doing that, I thought the
> Goan Christians and Hindus got along pretty well - thanks for that. I have
> only been to Goa once, my dad took me there when I was 3-4 years old. He
> was in the Army - only 2 memories of Goa - of being out at the sea and once
> waking up in the middle of night in the army style dormitory to find some
> weird animal/human like creature dancing at the front of the hall. Scared
> the hell out of me, closed my eyes and crept further towards my dad. I have
> chalked up the origin of this mythical creature to the over-active
> imagination of a 4 year old :-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
>  Ravi,
>
>
> *Choosy* might have been a better choice than particular.
>
>
> I'm pleased Yahoo has not unleashed Neo on you yet, good karma is my guess.
>
>
> As you know, Dubai is pretty much an over the top suburb of Mumbai; at
> one of my companies a newbie hired a Goan receptionist because he liked
> the way she looked ( I didn't argue when I saw her), despite the fact most
> of our clients were Hindu. In the quarter following her hire both sales
> and cost of sales dropped noticeably; for a while we couldn't figure out
> the drop in sales till we realized she was throwing away messages from some
> of our largest Hindu buyers; when I told one of the managers to get rid of
> her he pointed out that the reason our costs had also dropped was that she
> was excellent at getting suppliers in the States on the phone; I asked him
> why, and he said he thought that with her Portuguese name they likely
> thought she was an exotic dancer from Brazil. We kept her and she made a
> lot of money for the company. I won't mention her name, but I will say that
> my all time favorite Goan name belongs to a sales guy I used to know, his
> name is Chrysler Marquis.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_K__3OKkFg
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob - I knew you would come back with something referring to you as
> young (didn't expect your palmist to figure in it so prominently though
> LOL).
>
> Anyway no issues with your posts, they all look fine. Yahoo hasn't
> unleashed Neo on me. I was referring to "She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted" - I was wondering if you
> missed anything after particular - oh well.
>
> So yeah you are good on the Goan.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Raja Ravi,
>
> I assumed since my palmist told me I was a young soul you'd give me a pass
> on ji; it won't happen again.
>
> Neo continues to outperform, I wonder my posts to RD and TB were also cut
> off? I clicked on the three dots in the LLHC of your post back and my full
> post to you was there, can you see all of it this time (before I tell you
> about the Goan):
>
>  Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks
> of himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his
> Saturday morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Did you miss something after "particular""Jack thinks of himself as
> particular..?"
>
> And now please relate the story of the Goan.
>
> And please don't call me ji, don't you know you are not supposed to
> address someone younger than you as ji?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his Saturday
> morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> :-)
>
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>


RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread bobpriced













[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year?

2013-08-29 Thread doctordumbass
For a Jag, very reliable, too.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
wrote:
>
> doc :
> > The XK8 coupe is a worthy sucessor to the XK-E, more muscular
> > looking, and compact, with the same lack of room for actual
> > passengers in the back seat. A leather and walnut burl encased
> > cockpit, inside a land rocket. Lots of fun, though anyone who has
> > one should know that all Jaguars demand special care and feeding.
> >
> These are some serious wheels!
> 
> 1999 Jaguar XK8 Coupe:
> http://tinyurl.com/nk5x4b9 
>   
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu
Ah, the joys of Linux.  I also see the new format on my Windows 
machine.  But not my Linux box. ;-)


On 08/29/2013 07:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Interesting, I only see the new format on my Android phone.  And with 
a picture of the Kremlin at the top. :-D


On 08/29/2013 07:26 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:


The new Yahoo interface is very inconsistent. I am getting a mix of 
the old interface and the new and it seems kind of random. Also, if I 
am not logged in, the last 6 hours or so of messages do not display, 
which means to see what has been currently happening, you have to log 
in, if this behaviour is found with other users and web browsers.









[FairfieldLife] Rep. Grayson: the military industrial complex wants the Syrian strike

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu
The progressive Democrat told CNN he was opposed to a U.S. military 
strike against Syria over its alleged use of chemical weapons.

“The administration would have to explain why this affects some vital 
American interest,” Grayson said. “I haven’t heard any discussion of 
that at all. I think the only people who really want in to happen are 
the military industrial complex. I just don’t understand how this 
involves us, Americans.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/29/rep-grayson-on-syria-strike-military-industrial-complex-wants-it-americans-dont/

I heard Grayson this afternoon interviewed by Nicole Sandler. He 
mentioned that Raytheon stock has been on the rise. Just follow the 
money, people.

The UK Parliament has rejected an attacked. Obama seems to think he is a 
dictator. Ain't it handy that Congress is on recess and probably why he 
is anxious to attack ASAP  before they come back. Obviously given 
public opinion, Congress won't authorize it.

If he goes ahead I think we should demand his impeachment and trial for 
war crimes.





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RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend













RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend













Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread Ravi Chivukula
That was funny dear Bob, not sure why she was doing that, I thought the
Goan Christians and Hindus got along pretty well - thanks for that. I have
only been to Goa once, my dad took me there when I was 3-4 years old. He
was in the Army - only 2 memories of Goa - of being out at the sea and once
waking up in the middle of night in the army style dormitory to find some
weird animal/human like creature dancing at the front of the hall. Scared
the hell out of me, closed my eyes and crept further towards my dad. I have
chalked up the origin of this mythical creature to the over-active
imagination of a 4 year old :-)



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM,  wrote:

>
>
>  Ravi,
>
>
> *Choosy* might have been a better choice than particular.
>
>
> I'm pleased Yahoo has not unleashed Neo on you yet, good karma is my guess.
>
>
> As you know, Dubai is pretty much an over the top suburb of Mumbai; at
> one of my companies a newbie hired a Goan receptionist because he liked
> the way she looked ( I didn't argue when I saw her), despite the fact most
> of our clients were Hindu. In the quarter following her hire both sales
> and cost of sales dropped noticeably; for a while we couldn't figure out
> the drop in sales till we realized she was throwing away messages from some
> of our largest Hindu buyers; when I told one of the managers to get rid of
> her he pointed out that the reason our costs had also dropped was that she
> was excellent at getting suppliers in the States on the phone; I asked him
> why, and he said he thought that with her Portuguese name they likely
> thought she was an exotic dancer from Brazil. We kept her and she made a
> lot of money for the company. I won't mention her name, but I will say that
> my all time favorite Goan name belongs to a sales guy I used to know, his
> name is Chrysler Marquis.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_K__3OKkFg
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob - I knew you would come back with something referring to you as
> young (didn't expect your palmist to figure in it so prominently though
> LOL).
>
> Anyway no issues with your posts, they all look fine. Yahoo hasn't
> unleashed Neo on me. I was referring to "She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted" - I was wondering if you
> missed anything after particular - oh well.
>
> So yeah you are good on the Goan.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Raja Ravi,
>
> I assumed since my palmist told me I was a young soul you'd give me a pass
> on ji; it won't happen again.
>
> Neo continues to outperform, I wonder my posts to RD and TB were also cut
> off? I clicked on the three dots in the LLHC of your post back and my full
> post to you was there, can you see all of it this time (before I tell you
> about the Goan):
>
>  Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks
> of himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his
> Saturday morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Did you miss something after "particular""Jack thinks of himself as
> particular..?"
>
> And now please relate the story of the Goan.
>
> And please don't call me ji, don't you know you are not supposed to
> address someone younger than you as ji?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his Saturday
> morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> :-)
>
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>


RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread bobpriced













Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Thanks dear Judy - I don't ever recall reading or hearing such a usage of
"particular" - that's good to know.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:37 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> "Particular" can mean fastidious, choosy, picky, hard-to-please. Not sure
> if that's what The Wife had in mind, but most likely along those lines.
> It's a legitimate use of the term. The lack of the indefinite article is a
> sign nothing has been left out. Otherwise she'd have said "Jack thinks of
> himself as *a* particular [something]..."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob - I knew you would come back with something referring to you as
> young (didn't expect your palmist to figure in it so prominently though
> LOL).
>
> Anyway no issues with your posts, they all look fine. Yahoo hasn't
> unleashed Neo on me. I was referring to "She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted" - I was wondering if you
> missed anything after particular - oh well.
>
> So yeah you are good on the Goan.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Raja Ravi,
>
> I assumed since my palmist told me I was a young soul you'd give me a pass
> on ji; it won't happen again.
>
> Neo continues to outperform, I wonder my posts to RD and TB were also cut
> off? I clicked on the three dots in the LLHC of your post back and my full
> post to you was there, can you see all of it this time (before I tell you
> about the Goan):
>
>  Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks
> of himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his
> Saturday morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Did you miss something after "particular""Jack thinks of himself as
> particular..?"
>
> And now please relate the story of the Goan.
>
> And please don't call me ji, don't you know you are not supposed to
> address someone younger than you as ji?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his Saturday
> morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> :-)
>
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>


RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread bobpriced













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu
Interesting, I only see the new format on my Android phone.  And with a 
picture of the Kremlin at the top. :-D


On 08/29/2013 07:26 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:


The new Yahoo interface is very inconsistent. I am getting a mix of 
the old interface and the new and it seems kind of random. Also, if I 
am not logged in, the last 6 hours or so of messages do not display, 
which means to see what has been currently happening, you have to log 
in, if this behaviour is found with other users and web browsers.







RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
The new Yahoo interface is very inconsistent. I am getting a mix of the old 
interface and the new and it seems kind of random. Also, if I am not logged in, 
the last 6 hours or so of messages do not display, which means to see what has 
been currently happening, you have to log in, if this behaviour is found with 
other users and web browsers.




Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear Bob - I knew you would come back with something referring to you as
young (didn't expect your palmist to figure in it so prominently though
LOL).

Anyway no issues with your posts, they all look fine. Yahoo hasn't
unleashed Neo on me. I was referring to "She said our Jack thinks of
himself as particular rather than introverted" - I was wondering if you
missed anything after particular - oh well.

So yeah you are good on the Goan.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Raja Ravi,
>
> I assumed since my palmist told me I was a young soul you'd give me a pass
> on ji; it won't happen again.
>
> Neo continues to outperform, I wonder my posts to RD and TB were also cut
> off? I clicked on the three dots in the LLHC of your post back and my full
> post to you was there, can you see all of it this time (before I tell you
> about the Goan):
>
>  Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks
> of himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his
> Saturday morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Did you miss something after "particular""Jack thinks of himself as
> particular..?"
>
> And now please relate the story of the Goan.
>
> And please don't call me ji, don't you know you are not supposed to
> address someone younger than you as ji?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his Saturday
> morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> :-)
>
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 8/29/2013 5:40 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Yes, there was an Iraqi general that said he saw WMD's being shipped 
in stripped-out commercial air craft to Syria from Baghdad. Reports 
today  are saying chemical weapons depots would not be targeted 
becuase of the danger. Must be a lot of them.

Maybe so. From what I've read, the chemicals and explosives were given
to the Baathist insurgents and the foreign terrorists by Saddam before the
invasion. Tons of chemical weapons may have been moved into Syria.

That was part of Saddam's plan, according to the IAEA.

Read more:

Subject: The missing explosives have been found
Author: Willytex
Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: October 28, 2004
http://tinyurl.com/nzmvfrw


*From:* Richard J. Williams 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:58 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war


> I'm still waiting to hear the *big lie* Bush told...
>
That's what I'm sayin'!

That the Saddham regime had WMD and that's why we had
to invade Iraq. At least 95% of our congress believed
Saddham had WMD - including Clinton, Kerry, Tenet and
Powell.

It was probably the liberal Bill Moyers who first
claimed Bush lied about the WMD.

There probably were WMD in Iraq but they got shipped
off to Syria!

You know there's a liberal in the White House when the
New York Times has a headline like this:

'Bomb Syria, Even if It Is Illegal'
New York Times:
http://tinyurl.com/onmw6sy

Mike Dixon:
> I'm still waiting to hear the *big lie* Bush told. If it was that 
Iraq had WMD's, that is what he was told and assured of by George 
Tenet, head of the CIA and appointed to that position by  William 
Jefferson Clinton. If you say something that is not true, it's not a 
lie if you believed it was true. You were just wrong. Lying is 
intended deception. Saddam Hussein gave just about every intelligence 
agency in the world the belief that he had WMD's, and was moving them 
around and hiding them. Saddam wanted people to believe he had them 
because he used them against his own people, the Kurds and against the 
Iranians and he kept Shiites under control with that lie.

>
>
>
> 
> From: Richard J. Williams 
> To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:07 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
>
> Â
>
> Ann:
> > Authfriend, your beautiful mind is wasted on her.
> >
> Does it bother anyone else that the mime is talking?
>
> It won't be long now and we'll know who is the real leader
> of the free world. What if Obama is wrong, and it turns
> out that Assad didn't use WMD, or that he has no WMD?
>
> We already know that George W. Bush was a liar, and that
> John Kerry is too, so we've been down this road before.
>
> If it took us 10 years to get out of Afghanistan, it would
> probably take 20 to get out of Syria, if ever. Go figure.
>
> The question is, will punishing Assad end the civil war in
> Syria? No.
>
> So, is Russia irrelevant?
>
> "If there's any doubt about the answer, consider two
> numbers: 8,500 and 1."
>
> 'The Guns of August'
> http://tinyurl.com/ndaqpgnÂ
>
> 'Why It's a Mistake to Ignore Russia'
> http://tinyurl.com/ocs72fgÂ
>
> Â
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > >
> > > > dear Bhairitu, here's my confession:
> > >
> > > This isn't a "confession," Share. There's no need to
> > > exalt yourself here.
> > >
> > > > all this recent talk about West Wing had me remembering
> > > > various bits of various episodes. When I read Doc's comments,
> > > > I remembered an episode when the president's people took a
> > > > discrete
> > >
> > > The word is "discreet," not "discrete."
> > >
> > > > poll to find out how the nation would feel about a certain
> > > > issue.
> > >
> > > You still don't understand what was wrong with your
> > > hypothetical poll on Syria, do you? (I mean, aside
> > > from the fact that the administration would be highly
> > > unlikely to bomb Syria in this present situation on
> > > the basis of the results of a poll.) Now, *that* would
> > > be a confession.
> > >
> > > > I thought Doc asked some good questions and that was the
> > > > first response that came to my mind, that they took a poll.
> > >
> > > He did ask a good question, but it was more rhetorical
> > > than information oriented. It made the point that there
> > > *should* have been outrage months ago about the shelling
> > > of apartment buildings. And your hypothetical poll was
> > > in no way a response to that point.
> > >
> > > > I think Xeno is right, I do tend to be more intuitive than
> > > > linear in my thinking. But mainly I tend to make connections.
> > >
> > > "Intuitive" sounds better than "sloppy." You just make any
> > > old connection that crosses your mind in order to have
> > > something to say, Share. You don't bother to think things
>

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread bobpriced













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear Bob,

Did you miss something after "particular""Jack thinks of himself as
particular..?"

And now please relate the story of the Goan.

And please don't call me ji, don't you know you are not supposed to address
someone younger than you as ji?


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Raviji, it was a big hit with the wife. She said our Jack thinks of
> himself as particular rather than introverted, but #8 captures his Saturday
> morning posting efforts to the FFL.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088DhELIqw8
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> :-)
>
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
>
>
>
> 
>


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread Ravi Chivukula
A nice picture of your dog in your other post dear Ann . I have some old
photos of my first pet, a German Shepherd named Rambo, back in India - I
should scan and post it sometime. I don't know about being a better human
if I can love a cat, like any Indian the idea of cats as pets seemed
strange but my ex apparently liked them and she wanted a cat. And then I
loved cats so much - the second one named Veena- after the last syllables
of our names and Veena was such a riot. When she was a little kitten she
never walked, she just flew from one place to another, any moving object
was a potential target and I even remember her leaping and hanging on to my
ex's skirt every time LOL. I unfortunately don't have any of her pictures.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ann  wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > LOL - love #23 & #24
> >
> > I guess I love cats more than dogs (does that make me an introvert? :-)),
> > so I absolutely loved #7, that cute, little cat jumping all over that
> > introverted dog :-)
>
> I loved that picture of the lab in #9, classic. And if you can love a cat
> you're a better human than me; I think they are generally harder to love
> but a dog is a no brainer - or at least they gravitate to my heart easily.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:54 PM, emilymae.reyn  ...>wrote:
> >
> > > Excellent Ravi.
> > >
> > > No. 23.  She goes to bed before her owner does
> > > No. 24.  She maintains an existentially ferocious exterior to protect
> her
> > > inner introvert
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
> > > > <
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The long Dharma of Equal Rights

2013-08-29 Thread Buck
These last few days in America have been mass teaching days in the large human 
dharma of spiritual equality.  The ML King civil rights speech at the 
Washington monument.  Did you listen to the whole King speech?  I went to see 
"The Butler" today during the heat of the day.  This morning starting the day 
listening to Jefferson Airplane songs of the 60's, Volunteers of America.  
Would be nice now to hear Bevan reflect about the birth right of equality in 
the unifying field of the transcendent as an entitled Declaration and First 
amendment basis of having the unified experience of all religion of truth and 
spirituality by virtue of the human nervous system and a grace of the Unified 
Field.Have a Revolution!  Quintessentially America, "Jai" Brahmananda 
Saraswati, Maharishi and such illumined saints, the great millenarian 
revolutionaries of the 20th Century.  It's beautiful.  It's America. The 
unfoldment of Transcendentalism as the underlying arc of our American history 
and legacy experience as a [manifest] destiny in the World.
Volunteer of America,
-Buck in the Dome 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 
> Nice montage commemoration of the Martin Luther King I have a dream
> speech.
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23853578
> 
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year?

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
doc :
> The XK8 coupe is a worthy sucessor to the XK-E, more muscular
> looking, and compact, with the same lack of room for actual
> passengers in the back seat. A leather and walnut burl encased
> cockpit, inside a land rocket. Lots of fun, though anyone who has
> one should know that all Jaguars demand special care and feeding.
>
These are some serious wheels!

1999 Jaguar XK8 Coupe:
http://tinyurl.com/nk5x4b9 
   


[FairfieldLife] RE: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread bobpriced













[FairfieldLife] RE: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread bobpriced













[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread bobpriced













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 77 authfriend 
 75 Richard J. Williams 
 68 Ann 
 65 doctordumbass
 51 obbajeeba 
 39 Bhairitu 
 31 bobpriced 
 30 Ravi Chivukula 
 28 emilymae.reyn 
 26 Seraphita 
 25 Michael Jackson 
 25 Buck 
 20 Alex Stanley 
 19 turquoiseb 
 14 cardemaister
 14 Jason 
 13 Mike Dixon 
 12 sharelong60 
 11 emptybill 
 10 John 
  9 merudanda 
  9 iranitea 
  9 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  9 RoryGoff 
  8 Rick Archer 
  8 Duveyoung 
  7 Susan 
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  5 srijau
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Yep, even Maharishi said not all dreaming is unstressing.





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:49 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
 


  
The term 'lucid dream' refers to an unmistakable engagement on the astral 
plane, not the common imaginary (unstressing) dream state, though both use deep 
sleep as a foundation.

There is a difference, for me, in the experience. In clarity and stillness, a 
reality that transcends the dreamspace, with tangible, yet very very subtle 
results. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Well, Doc, I like the tantric ness of that phrase hard boiled mystic and I 
> think it fits you well. Lordy, what is in the air these days?! I've been 
> having some rich dreams too but not about anyone from Funny Farm Lounge. So 
> far (-:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Its an unusual relationship I have with Barry. I don't know if he is aware of 
> it, though I have engaged him in lucid dreams, three times, over the years. 
> The last time was earlier in this week. I won't go into details, except to 
> say it was quite normal, and mutually beneficial.
> 
> As always, Doc, the hard-boiled mystic - lol 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > And I really enjoyed seeing this side of you, Doc (-:
> > I also liked that phrase about sunroof and stars.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:41 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > I really enjoyed this, Barry. Both experiences you shared, getting high 
> > with "the Madonna" in Big Sur, and your conversation last night. I like 
> > your phrase, "driving with the sunroof...open, to feel closer to the 
> > stars". 
> > 
> > I am often in awe of those I meet. Once you get beyond the social 
> > interface, everyone is pretty fucking amazing. These days, everyone is 
> > really peaking their potential. Some of these athletes, artists and 
> > scientists are so gifted, I look at what they do, with my jaw on the floor, 
> > thinking how could I accomplish that in *ten* lifetimes.
> > 
> > Great to see another side of you, and enjoy the south of France - looks 
> > like it agrees with you.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > I arrived back at our vacation house late last night, after driving with
> > > the sunroof of the car open so I could feel closer to the stars that are
> > > so present here in the south of France and that are so missing in Paris.
> > > I was feeling high and nostalgic and happy, so didn't feel like spoiling
> > > that by reading FFL in depth, but a quick scan of Message View revealed
> > > the phrase in the Subject line above, so because that's one of my
> > > favorite nostalgia songs, I clicked on the post and listened to it. It
> > > provided a marvelous "final touch" to an already marvelous evening, so I
> > > thank whoever posted it. If you like the song, too, check out this
> > > version. which contains a few clips from that rarest of rarities, the
> > > long-lost Bob Dylan/Sam Shepard film "
> > >  
> > >  Renaldo & Clara
> > >   ."
> > > 
> > >    
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wI0j9nkkE
> > > 
> > > 
> > > My feelings of nostalgia were heightened by the song, because I was on
> > > my way home from a Great Conversation, and singer reminded me of one of
> > > my first such conversations in this lifetime. That one took place on a
> > > cliff in Big Sur, on the lawn of what is now the Esalen Institute, and
> > > was at the time the Big Sur Hot Springs Inn. I had arrived there a day
> > > early for a small folk festival, and like the other early-arrivers found
> > > my way to the cliff edge to watch the sun set over the Pacific.
> > > 
> > > I wound up sitting among a small group of people, not really noticing
> > > who they were when I first sat down. I *did* notice that they were
> > > passing a joint, and because I'd never smoked grass before, that
> > > intrigued me. Then one of them noticed me and passed me the doobie, from
> > > which I gratefully took my first puff. It was only then that I noticed
> > > that one of the people passing it to me was Joan Baez, and that I was
> > > sitting among a small group of the festival performers, which also
> > > included her sis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
PS to Xeno: Dirty Dancing was set in your neck of the woods!





 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ugh, that twerking word, Richard! No name and form value IMHO! It sounds like 
> a combo of tweeting and jerking!

Well, I do not like the word 'enthuse'. But twerk is now in the Oxford English 
Dictionary (which can be accessed for about $30 a month online) so there are 
enough instances of use to justify it as being a part of the English language. 
As with everything else, language changes vastly over time.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Twerking is a dance move that involves a person, usually a woman, shaking her 
hips in an up-and-down bouncing motion, causing the dancer to shake, "wobble" 
and "jiggle." This motion, when incorporated into dance moves, is also referred 
to as "sissing" (sexual intercourse simulation). When done by men it's usually 
directed at a particular person, often female, to indicate a disrespectful 
assessment of her reputation. According to the Oxford Dictionary Online to 
twerk is "to dance to popular music in a sexually provocative manner involving 
thrusting hip movements and a low, squatting stance." Twerking carries both 
gendered and racialized connotations.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Xeno, in my day it was called dirty dancing and it was not at all twerky!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x43vK0k6A2I





From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ugh, that twerking word, Richard! No name and form value IMHO! It sounds like 
> a combo of tweeting and jerking!

Well, I do not like the word 'enthuse'. But twerk is now in the Oxford English 
Dictionary (which can be accessed for about $30 a month online) so there are 
enough instances of use to justify it as being a part of the English language. 
As with everything else, language changes vastly over time.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Twerking is a dance move that involves a person, usually a woman, shaking her 
hips in an up-and-down bouncing motion, causing the dancer to shake, "wobble" 
and "jiggle." This motion, when incorporated into dance moves, is also referred 
to as "sissing" (sexual intercourse simulation). When done by men it's usually 
directed at a particular person, often female, to indicate a disrespectful 
assessment of her reputation. According to the Oxford Dictionary Online to 
twerk is "to dance to popular music in a sexually provocative manner involving 
thrusting hip movements and a low, squatting stance." Twerking carries both 
gendered and racialized connotations.


   


[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread feste37













[FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread doctordumbass
The term 'lucid dream' refers to an unmistakable engagement on the astral 
plane, not the common imaginary (unstressing) dream state, though both use deep 
sleep as a foundation.

There is a difference, for me, in the experience. In clarity and stillness, a 
reality that transcends the dreamspace, with tangible, yet very very subtle 
results. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Well, Doc, I like the tantric ness of that phrase hard boiled mystic and I 
> think it fits you well. Lordy, what is in the air these days?! I've been 
> having some rich dreams too but not about anyone from Funny Farm Lounge. So 
> far (-:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Its an unusual relationship I have with Barry. I don't know if he is aware of 
> it, though I have engaged him in lucid dreams, three times, over the years. 
> The last time was earlier in this week. I won't go into details, except to 
> say it was quite normal, and mutually beneficial.
> 
> As always, Doc, the hard-boiled mystic - lol 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > And I really enjoyed seeing this side of you, Doc (-:
> > I also liked that phrase about sunroof and stars.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:41 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > I really enjoyed this, Barry. Both experiences you shared, getting high 
> > with "the Madonna" in Big Sur, and your conversation last night. I like 
> > your phrase, "driving with the sunroof...open, to feel closer to the 
> > stars". 
> > 
> > I am often in awe of those I meet. Once you get beyond the social 
> > interface, everyone is pretty fucking amazing. These days, everyone is 
> > really peaking their potential. Some of these athletes, artists and 
> > scientists are so gifted, I look at what they do, with my jaw on the floor, 
> > thinking how could I accomplish that in *ten* lifetimes.
> > 
> > Great to see another side of you, and enjoy the south of France - looks 
> > like it agrees with you.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > I arrived back at our vacation house late last night, after driving with
> > > the sunroof of the car open so I could feel closer to the stars that are
> > > so present here in the south of France and that are so missing in Paris.
> > > I was feeling high and nostalgic and happy, so didn't feel like spoiling
> > > that by reading FFL in depth, but a quick scan of Message View revealed
> > > the phrase in the Subject line above, so because that's one of my
> > > favorite nostalgia songs, I clicked on the post and listened to it. It
> > > provided a marvelous "final touch" to an already marvelous evening, so I
> > > thank whoever posted it. If you like the song, too, check out this
> > > version. which contains a few clips from that rarest of rarities, the
> > > long-lost Bob Dylan/Sam Shepard film "
> > >  
> > >  Renaldo & Clara
> > >   ."
> > > 
> > >    
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wI0j9nkkE
> > > 
> > > 
> > > My feelings of nostalgia were heightened by the song, because I was on
> > > my way home from a Great Conversation, and singer reminded me of one of
> > > my first such conversations in this lifetime. That one took place on a
> > > cliff in Big Sur, on the lawn of what is now the Esalen Institute, and
> > > was at the time the Big Sur Hot Springs Inn. I had arrived there a day
> > > early for a small folk festival, and like the other early-arrivers found
> > > my way to the cliff edge to watch the sun set over the Pacific.
> > > 
> > > I wound up sitting among a small group of people, not really noticing
> > > who they were when I first sat down. I *did* notice that they were
> > > passing a joint, and because I'd never smoked grass before, that
> > > intrigued me. Then one of them noticed me and passed me the doobie, from
> > > which I gratefully took my first puff. It was only then that I noticed
> > > that one of the people passing it to me was Joan Baez, and that I was
> > > sitting among a small group of the festival performers, which also
> > > included her sister Mimi (wife of my hero at that time, the late Richard
> > > Farina) and Al Kooper, whose work I knew from a couple of Dylan albums.
> > > But I figured my best bet was to treat them as if I didn't recognize who
> > > they were, and interact with them like I w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war

2013-08-29 Thread Mike Dixon
Yes, there was an Iraqi general that said he saw WMD's being shipped in  
stripped-out commercial air craft to Syria from Baghdad. Reports today  are 
saying chemical weapons depots would not be targeted becuase of the danger. 
Must be a lot of them.


 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
  
   
 


> I'm still waiting to hear the *big lie* Bush told...
>
That's what I'm sayin'!

That the Saddham regime had WMD and that's why we had
to invade Iraq. At least 95% of our congress believed 
Saddham had WMD - including Clinton, Kerry, Tenet and 
Powell. 

It was probably the liberal Bill Moyers who first 
claimed Bush lied about the WMD. 

There probably were WMD in Iraq but they got shipped 
off to Syria! 

You know there's a liberal in the White House when the 
New York Times has a headline like this:

'Bomb Syria, Even if It Is Illegal'
New York Times:
http://tinyurl.com/onmw6sy

Mike Dixon:
> I'm still waiting to hear the *big lie* Bush told. If it was that Iraq had 
> WMD's, that is what he was told and assured of by George Tenet, head of the 
> CIA and appointed to that position by  William Jefferson Clinton. If you say 
> something that is not true, it's not a lie if you believed it was true. You 
> were just wrong. Lying is intended deception. Saddam Hussein gave just about 
> every intelligence agency in the world the belief that he had WMD's, and was 
> moving them around and hiding them. Saddam wanted people to believe he had 
> them because he used them against his own people, the Kurds and against the 
> Iranians and he kept Shiites under control with that lie.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Richard J. Williams 
> To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:07 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
> 
>   
> 
> Ann:
> > Authfriend, your beautiful mind is wasted on her.
> >
> Does it bother anyone else that the mime is talking?
> 
> It won't be long now and we'll know who is the real leader 
> of the free world. What if Obama is wrong, and it turns 
> out that Assad didn't use WMD, or that he has no WMD? 
> 
> We already know that George W. Bush was a liar, and that 
> John Kerry is too, so we've been down this road before. 
> 
> If it took us 10 years to get out of Afghanistan, it would 
> probably take 20 to get out of Syria, if ever. Go figure.
> 
> The question is, will punishing Assad end the civil war in 
> Syria? No. 
> 
> So, is Russia irrelevant?
> 
> "If there's any doubt about the answer, consider two 
> numbers: 8,500 and 1."
> 
> 'The Guns of August'
> http://tinyurl.com/ndaqpgn 
> 
> 'Why It's a Mistake to Ignore Russia'
> http://tinyurl.com/ocs72fg 
> 
>  
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > dear Bhairitu, here's my confession:
> > > 
> > > This isn't a "confession," Share. There's no need to
> > > exalt yourself here.
> > > 
> > > > all this recent talk about West Wing had me remembering
> > > > various bits of various episodes. When I read Doc's comments,
> > > > I remembered an episode when the president's people took a
> > > > discrete
> > > 
> > > The word is "discreet," not "discrete."
> > > 
> > > > poll to find out how the nation would feel about a certain
> > > > issue.
> > > 
> > > You still don't understand what was wrong with your
> > > hypothetical poll on Syria, do you? (I mean, aside
> > > from the fact that the administration would be highly
> > > unlikely to bomb Syria in this present situation on
> > > the basis of the results of a poll.) Now, *that* would
> > > be a confession.
> > > 
> > > > I thought Doc asked some good questions and that was the
> > > > first response that came to my mind, that they took a poll.
> > > 
> > > He did ask a good question, but it was more rhetorical
> > > than information oriented. It made the point that there
> > > *should* have been outrage months ago about the shelling
> > > of apartment buildings. And your hypothetical poll was 
> > > in no way a response to that point.
> > > 
> > > > I think Xeno is right, I do tend to be more intuitive than
> > > > linear in my thinking. But mainly I tend to make connections.
> > > 
> > > "Intuitive" sounds better than "sloppy." You just make any
> > > old connection that crosses your mind in order to have
> > > something to say, Share. You don't bother to think things
> > > through, so your connections rarely add value.
> > > 
> > > > Anyway, thanks for your intelligent comments and article.
>

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year?

2013-08-29 Thread doctordumbass
The XK8 coupe is a worthy sucessor to the XK-E, more muscular looking, and 
compact, with the same lack of room for actual passengers in the back seat. A 
leather and walnut burl encased cockpit, inside a land rocket. Lots of fun, 
though anyone who has one should know that all Jaguars demand special care and 
feeding.
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
wrote:
>
> "The E-Type Jaguar is widely regarded as the most beautiful car of all
> time.
> Its long, elegant nose, clean sides and slim haunches—combined with
> headlights that look as alert and inviting as the eyes of a
> supermodel—stand
> out among dozens of also-rans in the beauty contest of automotive
> attraction."
> 
> 'The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year'
> Forbes:
> http://tinyurl.com/lcffzup
>   
>   
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
You are right. I heard it on NPR yesterday, and misread the Wikipedia article 
after hearing the incorrect report. There is this tendency to see what the mind 
is thinking. I used to have an older copy of the OED, but no longer. The DVD is 
very expensive as is the online subscription (although you can try 30 days for 
free). Maybe the local library. The Brewster NY Library is rather small.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, judy stein  wrote:
>
> Actually "twerk" is not in the Oxford English Dictionary; that's been 
> misreported. It's in
> the Oxford Dictionaries Online. This is from the press release announcing the
> additions of "twerk," "selfie," and a few other new terms:
> 
> ===
> It is important to note that the new words mentioned above have been added to 
> Oxford Dictionaries Online, not 
> the Oxford English Dictionary. Why is this?
> 
> • The dictionary content in ODO focuses on current English and includes 
> modern meanings and uses of words
> • The OED, on the other hand, is a historical dictionary and it forms a 
> record of all the core words and meanings
> in English over more than 1,000 years, from Old English to the present day, 
> including many obsolete and historical
> terms. Words are never removed from the OED.
> ===
> 
> On Thu, 8/29/13, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
>  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  Date: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 5:26 PM
>  
>  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
>  Share Long  wrote:
>  >
>  > Ugh, that twerking word, Richard! No name and form
>  value IMHO! It sounds like a combo of tweeting and jerking!
>  
>  Well, I do not like the word 'enthuse'. But twerk is now in
>  the Oxford English Dictionary (which can be accessed for
>  about $30 a month online) so there are enough instances of
>  use to justify it as being a part of the English language.
>  As with everything else, language changes vastly over time.
>  
>  FROM WIKIPEDIA:
>  Twerking is a dance move that involves a person, usually a
>  woman, shaking her hips in an up-and-down bouncing motion,
>  causing the dancer to shake, "wobble" and "jiggle." This
>  motion, when incorporated into dance moves, is also referred
>  to as "sissing" (sexual intercourse simulation). When done
>  by men it's usually directed at a particular person, often
>  female, to indicate a disrespectful assessment of her
>  reputation. According to the Oxford Dictionary Online to
>  twerk is "to dance to popular music in a sexually
>  provocative manner involving thrusting hip movements and a
>  low, squatting stance." Twerking carries both gendered and
>  racialized connotations.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: YES! My kinda city

2013-08-29 Thread doctordumbass
Very cool idea! Saw something similar in a waterfront park in New England 
recently, bench swings for adults. Bus stops, even better.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> 
> [https://sphotos-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/548996_101515693260\
> 60658_130818370_n.jpg]
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread judy stein
Actually "twerk" is not in the Oxford English Dictionary; that's been 
misreported. It's in
the Oxford Dictionaries Online. This is from the press release announcing the
additions of "twerk," "selfie," and a few other new terms:

===
It is important to note that the new words mentioned above have been added to 
Oxford Dictionaries Online, not 
the Oxford English Dictionary. Why is this?

• The dictionary content in ODO focuses on current English and includes modern 
meanings and uses of words
• The OED, on the other hand, is a historical dictionary and it forms a record 
of all the core words and meanings
in English over more than 1,000 years, from Old English to the present day, 
including many obsolete and historical
terms. Words are never removed from the OED.
===

On Thu, 8/29/13, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 5:26 PM
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 Share Long  wrote:
 >
 > Ugh, that twerking word, Richard! No name and form
 value IMHO! It sounds like a combo of tweeting and jerking!
 
 Well, I do not like the word 'enthuse'. But twerk is now in
 the Oxford English Dictionary (which can be accessed for
 about $30 a month online) so there are enough instances of
 use to justify it as being a part of the English language.
 As with everything else, language changes vastly over time.
 
 FROM WIKIPEDIA:
 Twerking is a dance move that involves a person, usually a
 woman, shaking her hips in an up-and-down bouncing motion,
 causing the dancer to shake, "wobble" and "jiggle." This
 motion, when incorporated into dance moves, is also referred
 to as "sissing" (sexual intercourse simulation). When done
 by men it's usually directed at a particular person, often
 female, to indicate a disrespectful assessment of her
 reputation. According to the Oxford Dictionary Online to
 twerk is "to dance to popular music in a sexually
 provocative manner involving thrusting hip movements and a
 low, squatting stance." Twerking carries both gendered and
 racialized connotations.
 
 
 
 
 
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year?

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
"Matthew DeBord of The Big Money argued that despite its
poor reviews and sales, the Aztek was the car that, in the
long run, could save GM. He praised GM for being daring
and trying to create an entirely new market in vehicles,
rather than simply copying successful formulas.

He argued that the Aztek's failure is similar to the failure of
the Apple's Newton and Mac Portable - two failed products
that revolutionized the computer industry and became the
basis for later successful products made by Apple."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Aztek


  

Note:Walter White drove an Aztec.



[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Duveyoung













[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ugh, that twerking word, Richard! No name and form value IMHO! It sounds like 
> a combo of tweeting and jerking!

Well, I do not like the word 'enthuse'. But twerk is now in the Oxford English 
Dictionary (which can be accessed for about $30 a month online) so there are 
enough instances of use to justify it as being a part of the English language. 
As with everything else, language changes vastly over time.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Twerking is a dance move that involves a person, usually a woman, shaking her 
hips in an up-and-down bouncing motion, causing the dancer to shake, "wobble" 
and "jiggle." This motion, when incorporated into dance moves, is also referred 
to as "sissing" (sexual intercourse simulation). When done by men it's usually 
directed at a particular person, often female, to indicate a disrespectful 
assessment of her reputation. According to the Oxford Dictionary Online to 
twerk is "to dance to popular music in a sexually provocative manner involving 
thrusting hip movements and a low, squatting stance." Twerking carries both 
gendered and racialized connotations.



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu
You're probably right.  Groups are probably not a profit center but they 
do know if they drop them there will be a big stink.  Some companies run 
a Group for their products which is kinda cheapo.  Driving folks away 
would be a method of doing it gradually.


On 08/29/2013 01:37 PM, Duveyoung wrote:


 New format sucks big time.  Must be Yahoo is saving a ton of bucks to 
piss us off this much.  Must be they hate the groups thing and can't 
dump it cuz of all the posters being pissed to lose their stuff.  So 
they're DRIVING US AWAY WITH INCONVENIENCE.

Edg



--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

I tried signing directly into 'Groups', which I never do, and I 
stumbled across the Red Square picture, and a bunch of topic threads, 
and thought I was tripping.


Since then, I have been accessing FFL by logging into my Yahoo mail 
account first, and accessing my 'Groups' page from there. Same old, 
same old - don't see any differences, in function, or appearance.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
 wrote:

>
>
> What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it is a 
complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of mine is now on 
Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.

>





[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
One thing Yahoo seems to be doing is updating their web pages to HTML5 which 
will allow more resources for page development, maintenance and display, and 
make it easier to code for current browsers which have adopted many features of 
HTML5 (which is an unfinished, in-progress specification). The earlier 
interface was in HTML4 which is starting to become very dated. The page I am 
now on, the posting reply page, is still in HTML4.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Ugh, that twerking word, Richard! No name and form value IMHO! It sounds like a 
combo of tweeting and jerking!





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
 


  
On 8/29/2013 12:41 PM, Share Long wrote:

  
>Good points about parents protecting their kids, Richard. Do you think that's 
>why yahoo placed it so high in their *news* list?
>
Maybe, but watching Lindsay was like watching a train wreck movie in
slow motion! But these girls can't compare to the gay and lesbian,
cross-dressing, transgender, neo-nazi skinheads I read about in the
paper. Compared to them, Miley is like a nice country girl from
Fairfield, Iowa.

“When I was growing up, it wasn’t called twerking. That was called a
‘ho move,” she said."

Miley Cyrus ‘going to hell in a twerking hand basket’:
http://s2smagazine.com/79032/sherri-shepherd-miley-cyrus-going-to-hell-in-a-twerking-hand-basket/




>
> From: Richard J. Williams 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
> 
>
>
>  
>On 8/29/2013 11:26 AM, Share Long wrote:
>
>  
>>I don't know bhairitu, sometimes I think war is the running amuck of what 
>>Freud called the superego, that human aspect that thinks it's right and 
>>everyone should do as it says. 
>>
>>
>>
>>As for their counting on Americans to have short memories, I think they're 
>>also counting on Americans being easily distracted. This is what triggers me, 
>>what I see in the yahoo news line up. I mean, who really cares what dance 
>>move some silly entertainment person did?! 
>>
It's probably the parents that care what their children are watching on TV and 
where they are surfing on the internet. Maybe they don't approve of their 
daughters going around dressed in their underwear simulating deviant sex in 
public, or for that matter, their sons going around town with their pants 
hanging down showing their boxer shorts. 
>
>Hollywood kids like Miley and Lindsay are
  going off the rails in public - just like
  juveniles at an unsupervised birthday party
  with alcohol - caught up in a Hollywood spiral
  downwards, trapped inside a young girl's body,
  stuffed with drugs and craving attention. I
  could be wrong about this but I don't think
  so.
>
>"Children marinating in a culture of online
  porn, sexting, rainbow parties and worse have
  little experience with other ways of relating
  emotionally." - Kathleen Parker
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Bhairitu 
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54 AM
>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
>> 
>>
>>
>>  
>>War is the product of an adolescent mind.  We've been told for over a decade 
>>that al-Qaeda is our enemy.  Now their our allies?  Guess Barack's puppet 
>>masters think we were born yesterday.  In fact, they count on the American 
>>public to have short memories.  One thing practicing yoga all these years 
>>should do for you is give you a great memory.  Many of us remember growing up 
>>during the Cold War and being told that in the Soviet Union they spied on 
>>everyone and there was no privacy.  Now they want to do the same here. 
>>
>>Do you actually
  believe that Obama
  "weighs the options"
  and makes the
  decisions in the WH? 
  Wow John, I've a
  bridge nearby that
  will be available next
  week at a new low
  price.
>>
>>BTW, I'm not
  paranoid.  I'm angry
  as any decent human
  being should be about
  these villains
  corrupting society and
  stealing our rights
  and our money.  Do I
  hate America?  You
  betcha, because this
  is no longer
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Same here, Doc




 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  


Since then, I have been accessing FFL by logging into my Yahoo mail account 
first, and accessing my 'Groups' page from there. Same old, same old - don't 
see any differences, in function, or appearance.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly assigned to 
> the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it is a complete mess. I just 
> checked, and another Yahoo ID of mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a 
> clusterfuck of pure fail.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread emilymae.reyn
Yep, I just did it the way Doc did and also the message I'm replying to shows 
up.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I tried signing directly into 'Groups', which I never do, and I stumbled 
> across the Red Square picture, and a bunch of topic threads, and thought I 
> was tripping. 
> 
> Since then, I have been accessing FFL by logging into my Yahoo mail account 
> first, and accessing my 'Groups' page from there. Same old, same old - don't 
> see any differences, in function, or appearance.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly assigned to 
> > the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it is a complete mess. I 
> > just checked, and another Yahoo ID of mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a 
> > clusterfuck of pure fail.
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
After I posted my last message, the FFL interface reverted to the old one. I do 
not know why that occurred. Perhaps it is because I have software in my browser 
that blocks scripting selectively, which enables me to prevent advertisers from 
gleaning information up to a point.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Yep, for me too





 From: Alex Stanley 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  
Judy wrote:
> I had to copy and paste from her post

That's another thing I've noticed: on posts sent via the neo interface, when I 
reply to them on the website (the old version, in my case) the editor loads up 
empty, with the post I'm replying to not quoted. That's really annoying.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Any change in a computer interface that deviates much from what people used 
before causes many problems. If we were 10-year olds, we probably could adapt 
more quickly. I think Rick need a new banner photo or art for this new 
interface as the old one, clunky as it is is hardly the right shape, and Yahoo 
seems to have put one in by default.

Let's see how adaptable meditators and former meditators are. This interface is 
doing without too many problems on my desktop, but I also read FFL on a 
non-Apple tablet, and it is causing a lot of hangups, which also might be part 
of the web browser's fault, as it also has been rebuilt.

We have here an example of Darwinian evolution. Our environment has changed. Do 
we have insufficient adaptability to survive?




[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Duveyoung













[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread doctordumbass
I tried signing directly into 'Groups', which I never do, and I stumbled across 
the Red Square picture, and a bunch of topic threads, and thought I was 
tripping. 

Since then, I have been accessing FFL by logging into my Yahoo mail account 
first, and accessing my 'Groups' page from there. Same old, same old - don't 
see any differences, in function, or appearance.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly assigned to 
> the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it is a complete mess. I just 
> checked, and another Yahoo ID of mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a 
> clusterfuck of pure fail.
>




[FairfieldLife] The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year?

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
"The E-Type Jaguar is widely regarded as the most beautiful car of all
time.
Its long, elegant nose, clean sides and slim haunches—combined with
headlights that look as alert and inviting as the eyes of a
supermodel—stand
out among dozens of also-rans in the beauty contest of automotive
attraction."

'The Most Beautiful Cars Of The Year'
Forbes:
http://tinyurl.com/lcffzup
  
   


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 8/29/2013 12:41 PM, Share Long wrote:
Good points about parents protecting their kids, Richard. Do you think 
that's why yahoo placed it so high in their *news* list?


Maybe, but watching Lindsay was like watching a train wreck movie in 
slow motion! But these girls can't compare to the gay and lesbian, 
cross-dressing, transgender, neo-nazi skinheads I read about in the 
paper. Compared to them, Miley is like a nice country girl from 
Fairfield, Iowa.


“When I was growing up, it wasn’t called twerking. That was called a ‘ho 
move,” she said."


Miley Cyrus ‘going to hell in a twerking hand basket’:
http://s2smagazine.com/79032/sherri-shepherd-miley-cyrus-going-to-hell-in-a-twerking-hand-basket/




*From:* Richard J. Williams 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

On 8/29/2013 11:26 AM, Share Long wrote:
I don't know bhairitu, sometimes I think war is the running amuck of 
what Freud called the superego, that human aspect that thinks it's 
right and everyone should do as it says.


As for their counting on Americans to have short memories, I think 
they're also counting on Americans being easily distracted. This is 
what triggers me, what I see in the yahoo news line up. I mean, who 
really cares what dance move some silly entertainment person did?!
It's probably the parents that care what their children are watching 
on TV and where they are surfing on the internet. Maybe they don't 
approve of their daughters going around dressed in their underwear 
simulating deviant sex in public, or for that matter, their sons going 
around town with their pants hanging down showing their boxer shorts.


Hollywood kids like Miley and Lindsay are going off the rails in 
public - just like juveniles at an unsupervised birthday party with 
alcohol - caught up in a Hollywood spiral downwards, trapped inside a 
young girl's body, stuffed with drugs and craving attention. I could 
be wrong about this but I don't think so.


"Children marinating in a culture of online porn, sexting, rainbow 
parties and worse have little experience with other ways of relating 
emotionally." - Kathleen Parker




*From:* Bhairitu  
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

War is the product of an adolescent mind. We've been told for over a 
decade that al-Qaeda is our enemy.  Now their our allies?  Guess 
Barack's puppet masters think we were born yesterday.  In fact, they 
count on the American public to have short memories. One thing 
practicing yoga all these years should do for you is give you a great 
memory.  Many of us remember growing up during the Cold War and being 
told that in the Soviet Union they spied on everyone and there was no 
privacy. Now they want to do the same here.


Do you actually believe that Obama "weighs the options" and makes the 
decisions in the WH? Wow John, I've a bridge nearby that will be 
available next week at a new low price.


BTW, I'm not paranoid.  I'm angry as any decent human being should be 
about these villains corrupting society and stealing our rights and 
our money.  Do I hate America?  You betcha, because this is no longer 
"America."


On 08/28/2013 08:34 PM, John wrote:

Bhairitu,

One of Obama's options is to NOT attack directly but to supply the 
rebels with the needed weapons and ammunitions they need to fight 
Assad. He might also choose a "no fly zone" against Assad's 
airforce. That means, the US Air Force will be involved in enforcing 
this policy.


This could possibly tip the progress of the war towards the rebel. 
At the same time, the rebel leadership should be able to setup a new 
government for the benefit of the Syrian people.


At this time, Obama is still weighing his options and we should find 
out very soon what that option will be.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Bhairitu  
 wrote:

>
> "If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has 
ensured –
> for the very first time in history – that the United States will 
be on

> the same side as al-Qa'ida."
>
> 
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html

>
> Of course al-CIAda as some of us call it was started by the CIA to 
fight

> against the Russians in Afghanistan. Your tax dollars at work proud
> Americans!
>














[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Alex Stanley
But, with posts sent via the original website, quoting works just fine:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> Judy wrote:
> > I had to copy and paste from her post
> 
> That's another thing I've noticed: on posts sent via the neo interface, when 
> I reply to them on the website (the old version, in my case) the editor loads 
> up empty, with the post I'm replying to not quoted. That's really annoying.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Alex Stanley
Judy wrote:
> I had to copy and paste from her post

That's another thing I've noticed: on posts sent via the neo interface, when I 
reply to them on the website (the old version, in my case) the editor loads up 
empty, with the post I'm replying to not quoted. That's really annoying.



[FairfieldLife] Re: New FFL Home Page Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Buck
Hey while we are looking I'd like to see the opening description of FFL
improved in context for the person looking in on the group.  Just a
little bit by adding an accurate phrase about the more unique nature of
the current Fairfield spiritual community.
Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of
truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi
University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971.
There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as
well as many others pursuing various spiritual paths.  The larger
Fairfield, Iowa meditating community is "Based on balancing labor
and leisure [to meditate] while working together for the benefit of the
community".

[-Buck in the Dome]
< What the hell happened? Why do we have a Red Square banner at the top
of the page and not our lovely floating in space Fairfield Square? <
This really sucks.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 8/29/2013 12:57 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


Its an unusual relationship I have with Barry. I don't know if he is 
aware of it, though I have engaged him in lucid dreams, three times, 
over the years. The last time was earlier in this week. I won't go 
into details, except to say it was quite normal, and mutually beneficial.


Yeah, Barry doesn't really do dialog very well - he's much better at 
just posting. Online he's very biased and can't seem to work well with 
others as far as exchanging information - he's very secretive at times.


Years ago I made him mad at me when I posted a comment about Rama and 
the the levitation event - Barry never seemed to got over it. That was 
ten years ago - he gets his feelings hurt easily, I guess.


But I only mentioned it at the time because he was poking fun at the 
Maharishi for teaching 'bun hopping'. Now that was really funny!!!




As always, Doc, the hard-boiled mystic - lol

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Share Long  
wrote:

>
> And I really enjoyed seeing this side of you, Doc (-:
> I also liked that phrase about sunroof and stars.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:41 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
>
>
>
> Â
> I really enjoyed this, Barry. Both experiences you shared, getting 
high with "the Madonna" in Big Sur, and your conversation last night. 
I like your phrase, "driving with the sunroof...open, to feel closer 
to the stars".

>
> I am often in awe of those I meet. Once you get beyond the social 
interface, everyone is pretty fucking amazing. These days, everyone is 
really peaking their potential. Some of these athletes, artists and 
scientists are so gifted, I look at what they do, with my jaw on the 
floor, thinking how could I accomplish that in *ten* lifetimes.

>
> Great to see another side of you, and enjoy the south of France - 
looks like it agrees with you.

>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, turquoiseb  wrote:

> >
> > I arrived back at our vacation house late last night, after 
driving with
> > the sunroof of the car open so I could feel closer to the stars 
that are
> > so present here in the south of France and that are so missing in 
Paris.
> > I was feeling high and nostalgic and happy, so didn't feel like 
spoiling
> > that by reading FFL in depth, but a quick scan of Message View 
revealed

> > the phrase in the Subject line above, so because that's one of my
> > favorite nostalgia songs, I clicked on the post and listened to it. It
> > provided a marvelous "final touch" to an already marvelous 
evening, so I

> > thank whoever posted it. If you like the song, too, check out this
> > version. which contains a few clips from that rarest of rarities, the
> > long-lost Bob Dylan/Sam Shepard film "
> > 
> >  Renaldo & Clara
> >  ."
> >
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wI0j9nkkE
> > 
> >
> > My feelings of nostalgia were heightened by the song, because I was on
> > my way home from a Great Conversation, and singer reminded me of 
one of

> > my first such conversations in this lifetime. That one took place on a
> > cliff in Big Sur, on the lawn of what is now the Esalen Institute, and
> > was at the time the Big Sur Hot Springs Inn. I had arrived there a day
> > early for a small folk festival, and like the other early-arrivers 
found

> > my way to the cliff edge to watch the sun set over the Pacific.
> >
> > I wound up sitting among a small group of people, not really noticing
> > who they were when I first sat down. I *did* notice that they were
> > passing a joint, and because I'd never smoked grass before, that
> > intrigued me. Then one of them noticed me and passed me the 
doobie, from

> > which I gratefully took my first puff. It was only then that I noticed
> > that one of the people passing it to me was Joan Baez, and that I was
> > sitting among a small group of the festival performers, which also
> > included her sister Mimi (wife of my hero at that time, the late 
Richard
> > Farina) and Al Kooper, whose work I knew from a couple of Dylan 
albums.
> > But I figured my best bet was to treat them as if I didn't 
recognize who
> > they were, and interact with them like I would anyone else. That 
turned

> > out to be the best approach I could have possibly taken, because we
> > wound up enjoying each others' company and having the most marvelous
> > stoned, soaring conversation I'd ever experienced in my life.
> >
> > The song also captured a similar here-and-n

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread awoelflebater













[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] YES! My kinda city

2013-08-29 Thread turquoiseb

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60658_130818370_n.jpg]





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu
I had things a little backward and my Chrome view of FFL was the one 
that is not supposed to be logged in and it's Firefox that has the 
login.  I still got the old interface with the login.


I'll see if I can sniff out a view of Neo.

On 08/29/2013 11:20 AM, Share Long wrote:
Michael, huh? When I go to the FFL group page it's same old, same old. 
Which is great as far as I'm concerned. I go there by clicking on the 
link that appears at the bottom of posts. Could that be why?




*From:* Michael Jackson 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:07 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

the yahoo email is unchanged - its just when you log onto the 
Fairfieldlife yahoo group page itself that you get the new, spiffy Neo.




*From:* Alex Stanley 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:18 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, "authfriend" 
 wrote:

>
>
> Also:
>
> Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

I have no idea how it looks in Yahoo webmail. My Gmail feed in 
Thunderbird is unchanged.


> How about Digest, do you know?

I have no idea.










Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: thank you Raja Louis!

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 8/29/2013 10:19 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:

then how come the Toronto folks elected him?

Because he is a drunken, bumbling buffoon?





*From:* Ann 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:56 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: thank you Raja Louis!

Rob ford is a drunken, bumbling buffoon but the city of Toronto is 
beautiful and interesting and full of culture - unlike it's loser mayor.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Michael Jackson 
 wrote:

>
> Toronto is such a livable city because everyone is laid back from 
smoking pot.

>
>
> Toronto Mayor Rob Ford smoked 'a lot' of marijuana
> The acknowledgement by Ford, who is shown here in a May file photo, 
drew a laugh from the press pack

> Continue reading the main story
> Related Stories
> * Toronto's Ford denies 'crack video'
> * Trudeau 'smoked cannabis' while MP
> Toronto Mayor Rob Ford has said he has smoked "a lot" of marijuana, 
as a national debate on legalisation of the drug builds.
> Mr Ford, who leads Canada's largest city, became the fourth Canadian 
politician in a week to acknowledge using the drug.
> Separately, he has denied rumours he was caught on video smoking 
crack cocaine and that he was addicted to it.

> In June, Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau called for legalisation.
> Reporters confronted Mr Ford on Wednesday after Ontario
> Premier Kathleen Wynne acknowledged she had smoked marijuana 35 years
> ago, before entering politics.
> "Oh yeah, I won't deny that," Mr Ford said with a laugh when asked 
if he had smoked marijuana. "I've smoked a lot of it."

> Last week, New Democratic Party leader Thomas Mulcair also
> acknowledged using marijuana but would not say when, and Mr Trudeau 
said he had smoked marijuana since becoming a member of parliament.
> Rumours of hard drug use by Mr Ford first circulated in March after 
two media outlets said they had seen a video that purportedly

> showed him smoking crack cocaine.
> The video has not been released publicly and has not been
> verified. Mr Ford has said he does not smoke crack cocaine and is 
not an addict.

>
>
>
>
> 
> From: "srijau@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] thank you Raja Louis!
>
>
>
> Â
> "Bogota, Colombia, improving the most: by 7.9 per cent since 2008, 
because of an end to violence"
> 
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/08/28/toronto_fourth_most_livable_city_in_world_economist.html

>








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit vs. Hebrew?

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 8/29/2013 10:44 AM, obbajeeba wrote:


Especially the Northern Indo-European ("Sanskrit") parts of India are 
mostly like


a huge gypsy camp?? Whereas the Dravidian Southern parts tend
to be more, hmm... orderly??
Maybe, but that's mostly modern history, but  in the past the 
civilization in South Asia was very sophisticated. Long before the 
arrival of the Sanskrit speaking people from the north around 1500 BCE, 
the Dravidian Harappans by 2400 BCE had already invented planned and 
orderly cities and towns, when the Vedic Aryans were still nomadic 
shepherds and small cattle barons living in yurts and tents. So, there's 
been a lot of cultural downgrading in the Northern parts of India since 
the arrival of the Caucasians with their caste system, the Mongol 
hordes, Arabs invaders, and the later British occupation.


http://answers.yahoo.com/harappan achievements 





I believe something like every 50th human bean in the US of A is Jewish,
but about half of the success of America in many areas (science, medicine,
music, entertainment, finance, etc.) can be attributed to Jews??

That's one of the reasons why this fella started to learn Hebrew and 
forget

Sanskrit??

Not sure if I buy that as a reason of any people who follow a religion 
or a type of language to be better or smarter.  It probably goes more 
like this, lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY0mSb26l_o






[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I'm flummoxed, confounded and this message may not get where I want it to go. 
I'll press send and see what happens. Raunchy, you are officially my guinea 
pig. The only way I seem to be able to read posts anymore is to read my mail 
instead. Before that I always used the website to read and type. This new 
format might just be the answer to posting limits 'cause I'm not sure I can 
figure this all out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread sharelong60

Thanks, Judy, now I remember what Digest is though I've never used that format 
for receiving posts.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

2013-08-29 Thread Buck

Yes, responding to this ongoing threat to our group community here on FFL posed 
by the posting of these posters there should be zero tolerance for the perp of 
the ad hominem here at FFL.
-Buck

> 
> Seems Yahoo By policy guidelines of moderation is not the only internet
> provider Ratcheting up troll-controls:
> 
> Huffingtonpost:  "I predict the same will happen here and anywhere
> else where troll-controls are ratcheting up. Instead of killing
> business, it will bring back those who've stayed away, unwilling to put
> up with online ugliness; in fact, several people I've heard from have
> made that exact point."
> 
> "this action by HuffPost, as well as the moderation policies on
> Facebook and other sites, are good efforts towards raising the bar.
> Tweaks will surely be needed, but it's a start. Most meaningful online
> discourse does not require anonymity to be rich, candid and inspiring,
> but it does require a willingness to develop smart, respectful,
> effective communication skills. That used to be a societal norm; it
> ought to be again. I hope, like the cigarette ban, we get to the point
> where we can't even remember what it was like when trollers ran the
> show, just as it seems strange to remember when the table next to us
> could smoke-out our dinner without consideration."
> 
> It is timely, -Buck
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lorraine-devon-wilke/welcome-to-the-cult-o\
> f-an_b_3813766.html
>  of-an_b_3813766.html>
> 
> >
> >
> > Yup, the ad hominem is right up the with pornography on Yahoo groups. 
> Yahoo is being ahead of the curve on this on the internet.  Yahoo really
> is being quite good and spiritual with its new guidelines for groups. 
> FFL should come into alignment.
> >
> > >
> > > Friends, But the larger problem we have now is with the new Yahoo
> guidelines and our under-moderated ad hominem homid members threatening
> the life=blood of the whole group.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > People obviously have way too many posts to fire and burn here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Recent case in point, quote:  "I thought it was mean spirited,
> actually. Same old invectives hurled at someone:
> > > > > " Are you dumb, or dull, or nuts?""
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact,
> and share ideas with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the terms and
> conditions of your use ..  some of the key things to remember are:
> > > > > > > 1. You may not harass, abuse, threaten, or advocate
> violence"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, personal by its nature the use the ad hominem is abuse on
> all these levels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends;
> > > > > > > > But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum
> for FFL:  Yes, by the virtue of the new Yahoo-groups guidelines being
> placed over us we should directly outlaw the ad hominem and name-calling
> forms of argument as lower than the lowest and directly banish those who
> use them here as the fundamental and great threat to our whole way of
> life here on a Yahoo-group that they are.
> > > > > > > > Kindly,
> > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  Yep these people have taken toll the life spark of
> FairfieldLife here on Yahoo-groups with the Ad hominems.   Time comes
> now to do with serious moderation or surely let the list die entirely. 
> Seems a time has come for action one way or the other.  Radical action. 
> Resuscitation or it dies.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is
> vitriol
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are
> the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil
> society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse.  Yes, by stark
> contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time
> when the post count was limited to 35 per week.  This list cries out for
> a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation.  A strict speed limit
> of 35 posts per week.
> > > > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern
> Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@ writes:
> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope
> is clearly failing.  The lowest form of writing and argument evidently
> dominates FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL.  As an
> elder of the FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL
> from the lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem .  These
> people's abuse of the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too
> much.  Something radical, something different needs to be don

[FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams


Thanks for posting this,  but these kinds of conversations aren't all that 
infrequent when you live in Los Angeles or Hollywood. 

When I was renting the old Tom Mix place in Laurel Canyon, Niel Young once came 
over to my place one day and we both walked over to Frank Zappa's to watch home 
movies. From what I've heard, Joni Mitchell wrote one of her songs at my place 
too. Go figure.

As for conversation, intelectuals most of these guys were not - but if you 
agreed with their liberal point-of-view they were fun to small talk with. 

But,I can't imagine you taking your first hit on weed and then trying to 
converse with Joan, Mimi, and Al - that's just too funny to imagine! How did 
you keep from laughing your head off?

One time I took a flight to San Francisco and got stuck sitting next to Alan 
Ginsberg. The next night, when I was working a Doug Sahm concert, I got a 
message backstage that someone was asking for me at the back door - it was 
Allen.

Later after the concert we went to the Jefferson Airplane's house and I played 
pool with Mac Rebennack, Dr.John - the Night Tripper. These kinds of things 
happen all the time out in California, especially if you're involved in the 
show business trade.

What's really funny is you and Crumb getting together to have a conversation - 
you're one of the most liberal guys on the planet and Crumb is a confirmed 
Repug, at least he was when I talked to him back in the 60s. 

You actually told Crumb you had been in cults for the major part of your adult 
life? I wonder what Crumb had to say about that and the Rama levitation event? 
LoL!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I arrived back at our vacation house late last night, after driving with
> the sunroof of the car open so I could feel closer to the stars that are
> so present here in the south of France and that are so missing in Paris.
> I was feeling high and nostalgic and happy, so didn't feel like spoiling
> that by reading FFL in depth, but a quick scan of Message View revealed
> the phrase in the Subject line above, so because that's one of my
> favorite nostalgia songs, I clicked on the post and listened to it. It
> provided a marvelous "final touch" to an already marvelous evening, so I
> thank whoever posted it. If you like the song, too, check out this
> version. which contains a few clips from that rarest of rarities, the
> long-lost Bob Dylan/Sam Shepard film "
>  
>  Renaldo & Clara
>   ."
> 
>    
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wI0j9nkkE
> 
> 
> My feelings of nostalgia were heightened by the song, because I was on
> my way home from a Great Conversation, and singer reminded me of one of
> my first such conversations in this lifetime. That one took place on a
> cliff in Big Sur, on the lawn of what is now the Esalen Institute, and
> was at the time the Big Sur Hot Springs Inn. I had arrived there a day
> early for a small folk festival, and like the other early-arrivers found
> my way to the cliff edge to watch the sun set over the Pacific.
> 
> I wound up sitting among a small group of people, not really noticing
> who they were when I first sat down. I *did* notice that they were
> passing a joint, and because I'd never smoked grass before, that
> intrigued me. Then one of them noticed me and passed me the doobie, from
> which I gratefully took my first puff. It was only then that I noticed
> that one of the people passing it to me was Joan Baez, and that I was
> sitting among a small group of the festival performers, which also
> included her sister Mimi (wife of my hero at that time, the late Richard
> Farina) and Al Kooper, whose work I knew from a couple of Dylan albums.
> But I figured my best bet was to treat them as if I didn't recognize who
> they were, and interact with them like I would anyone else. That turned
> out to be the best approach I could have possibly taken, because we
> wound up enjoying each others' company and having the most marvelous
> stoned, soaring conversation I'd ever experienced in my life.
> 
> The song also captured a similar here-and-now sense of nostalgia and joy
> last night, because I'd just come from another such Great Conversation.
> My best friend Laurel and I drove over to Sauve to have dinner with our
> former next-door-neighbor, good friend, and landlord during the years we
> lived there, Robert. Joining us was another friend from Sauve, a jazz
> pianist of some repute named Tony. We met at Robert's house and then
> walked over to a new restaurant in town, created inside what had until
> recently been a defunct train station, and had dinner. The cuisine was
> excellent, as was their house wine (Laurel, Tony and I sharing it,
> because Robert

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Michael, huh? When I go to the FFL group page it's same old, same old. Which is 
great as far as I'm concerned. I go there by clicking on the link that appears 
at the bottom of posts. Could that be why?





 From: Michael Jackson 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  
the yahoo email is unchanged - its just when you log onto the Fairfieldlife 
yahoo group page itself that you get the new, spiffy Neo. 





 From: Alex Stanley 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> 
> Also:
> 
> Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

I have no idea how it looks in Yahoo webmail. My Gmail feed in Thunderbird is 
unchanged.

> How about Digest, do you know?

I have no idea.




 

[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha Passing List

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu

BTW, did the Thunderbird filter work for you?

On 08/29/2013 05:25 AM, merudanda wrote:


Timeless, isn't it:
While others shout of war's disaster.
> > Oh, we won't give in,
> > Let's go living in the past.
> > Let us close our eyes;
...





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Well, Doc, I like the tantric ness of that phrase hard boiled mystic and I 
think it fits you well. Lordy, what is in the air these days?! I've been having 
some rich dreams too but not about anyone from Funny Farm Lounge. So far (-:





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
 


  
Its an unusual relationship I have with Barry. I don't know if he is aware of 
it, though I have engaged him in lucid dreams, three times, over the years. The 
last time was earlier in this week. I won't go into details, except to say it 
was quite normal, and mutually beneficial.

As always, Doc, the hard-boiled mystic - lol 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> And I really enjoyed seeing this side of you, Doc (-:
> I also liked that phrase about sunroof and stars.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:41 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
> 
> 
> 
>   
> I really enjoyed this, Barry. Both experiences you shared, getting high with 
> "the Madonna" in Big Sur, and your conversation last night. I like your 
> phrase, "driving with the sunroof...open, to feel closer to the stars". 
> 
> I am often in awe of those I meet. Once you get beyond the social interface, 
> everyone is pretty fucking amazing. These days, everyone is really peaking 
> their potential. Some of these athletes, artists and scientists are so 
> gifted, I look at what they do, with my jaw on the floor, thinking how could 
> I accomplish that in *ten* lifetimes.
> 
> Great to see another side of you, and enjoy the south of France - looks like 
> it agrees with you.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > I arrived back at our vacation house late last night, after driving with
> > the sunroof of the car open so I could feel closer to the stars that are
> > so present here in the south of France and that are so missing in Paris.
> > I was feeling high and nostalgic and happy, so didn't feel like spoiling
> > that by reading FFL in depth, but a quick scan of Message View revealed
> > the phrase in the Subject line above, so because that's one of my
> > favorite nostalgia songs, I clicked on the post and listened to it. It
> > provided a marvelous "final touch" to an already marvelous evening, so I
> > thank whoever posted it. If you like the song, too, check out this
> > version. which contains a few clips from that rarest of rarities, the
> > long-lost Bob Dylan/Sam Shepard film "
> >  
> >  Renaldo & Clara
> >   ."
> > 
> >    
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wI0j9nkkE
> > 
> > 
> > My feelings of nostalgia were heightened by the song, because I was on
> > my way home from a Great Conversation, and singer reminded me of one of
> > my first such conversations in this lifetime. That one took place on a
> > cliff in Big Sur, on the lawn of what is now the Esalen Institute, and
> > was at the time the Big Sur Hot Springs Inn. I had arrived there a day
> > early for a small folk festival, and like the other early-arrivers found
> > my way to the cliff edge to watch the sun set over the Pacific.
> > 
> > I wound up sitting among a small group of people, not really noticing
> > who they were when I first sat down. I *did* notice that they were
> > passing a joint, and because I'd never smoked grass before, that
> > intrigued me. Then one of them noticed me and passed me the doobie, from
> > which I gratefully took my first puff. It was only then that I noticed
> > that one of the people passing it to me was Joan Baez, and that I was
> > sitting among a small group of the festival performers, which also
> > included her sister Mimi (wife of my hero at that time, the late Richard
> > Farina) and Al Kooper, whose work I knew from a couple of Dylan albums.
> > But I figured my best bet was to treat them as if I didn't recognize who
> > they were, and interact with them like I would anyone else. That turned
> > out to be the best approach I could have possibly taken, because we
> > wound up enjoying each others' company and having the most marvelous
> > stoned, soaring conversation I'd ever experienced in my life.
> > 
> > The song also captured a similar here-and-now sense of nostalgia and joy
> > last night, because I'd just come from another such Great Conversation.
> > My best friend Laurel and I drove over to Sauve to have dinner with our
> > former next-door-neighbor, good friend, and landlord during the years we
> > lived there, Robert. Joining us was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
It's probably already to late to prove anything in Syria. And it's 
already late to make any military strikes at Syria to do any good. It 
looks like Obama not screwed up the 'red line', but screwed up the 'not 
attacking' as well.


France and the UK are already starting to balk at any military 
intervention. Probably no European country is even close to putting any 
boots on the ground in Syria. And why should any Western country want to 
interfere in another religious civil war in the Middle East?


Anyone that does commit to using military force had better be damn sure, 
as sure as they can be, before taking any military action in Syria. 
"Because once you're into it, there isn't any backing out, whether it's 
a no-fly zone, safe zone...whatever it is," - Chuck Hagel


'Syria crisis tests U.S. defense chief wary of war'
Reuters:
http://tinyurl.com/q6btomz

'Russia sending warships to the Mediterranean: report'
AFP:
http://tinyurl.com/pn264a2

On 8/29/2013 10:54 AM, Bhairitu wrote:


War is the product of an adolescent mind.  We've been told for over a 
decade that al-Qaeda is our enemy.  Now their our allies?  Guess 
Barack's puppet masters think we were born yesterday.  In fact, they 
count on the American public to have short memories.  One thing 
practicing yoga all these years should do for you is give you a great 
memory.  Many of us remember growing up during the Cold War and being 
told that in the Soviet Union they spied on everyone and there was no 
privacy.  Now they want to do the same here.


Do you actually believe that Obama "weighs the options" and makes the 
decisions in the WH?  Wow John, I've a bridge nearby that will be 
available next week at a new low price.


BTW, I'm not paranoid.  I'm angry as any decent human being should be 
about these villains corrupting society and stealing our rights and 
our money.  Do I hate America?  You betcha, because this is no longer 
"America."


On 08/28/2013 08:34 PM, John wrote:


Bhairitu,

One of Obama's options is to NOT attack directly but to supply the 
rebels with the needed weapons and ammunitions they need to fight 
Assad. He might also choose a "no fly zone" against Assad's airforce. 
That means, the US Air Force will be involved in enforcing this policy.


This could possibly tip the progress of the war towards the rebel. At 
the same time, the rebel leadership should be able to setup a new 
government for the benefit of the Syrian people.


At this time, Obama is still weighing his options and we should find 
out very soon what that option will be.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Bhairitu  wrote:

>
> "If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has 
ensured --
> for the very first time in history -- that the United States will 
be on

> the same side as al-Qa'ida."
>
> 
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html

>
> Of course al-CIAda as some of us call it was started by the CIA to 
fight

> against the Russians in Afghanistan. Your tax dollars at work proud
> Americans!
>








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Jackson
the yahoo email is unchanged - its just when you log onto the Fairfieldlife 
yahoo group page itself that you get the new, spiffy Neo. 





 From: Alex Stanley 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> 
> Also:
> 
> Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

I have no idea how it looks in Yahoo webmail. My Gmail feed in Thunderbird is 
unchanged.

> How about Digest, do you know?

I have no idea.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread doctordumbass
Its an unusual relationship I have with Barry. I don't know if he is aware of 
it, though I have engaged him in lucid dreams, three times, over the years. The 
last time was earlier in this week. I won't go into details, except to say it 
was quite normal, and mutually beneficial.

As always, Doc, the hard-boiled mystic - lol 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> And I really enjoyed seeing this side of you, Doc (-:
> I also liked that phrase about sunroof and stars.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:41 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
>  
> 
> 
>   
> I really enjoyed this, Barry. Both experiences you shared, getting high with 
> "the Madonna" in Big Sur, and your conversation last night. I like your 
> phrase, "driving with the sunroof...open, to feel closer to the stars". 
> 
> I am often in awe of those I meet. Once you get beyond the social interface, 
> everyone is pretty fucking amazing. These days, everyone is really peaking 
> their potential. Some of these athletes, artists and scientists are so 
> gifted, I look at what they do, with my jaw on the floor, thinking how could 
> I accomplish that in *ten* lifetimes.
> 
> Great to see another side of you, and enjoy the south of France - looks like 
> it agrees with you.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > I arrived back at our vacation house late last night, after driving with
> > the sunroof of the car open so I could feel closer to the stars that are
> > so present here in the south of France and that are so missing in Paris.
> > I was feeling high and nostalgic and happy, so didn't feel like spoiling
> > that by reading FFL in depth, but a quick scan of Message View revealed
> > the phrase in the Subject line above, so because that's one of my
> > favorite nostalgia songs, I clicked on the post and listened to it. It
> > provided a marvelous "final touch" to an already marvelous evening, so I
> > thank whoever posted it. If you like the song, too, check out this
> > version. which contains a few clips from that rarest of rarities, the
> > long-lost Bob Dylan/Sam Shepard film "
> >  
> >  Renaldo & Clara
> >   ."
> > 
> >    
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wI0j9nkkE
> > 
> > 
> > My feelings of nostalgia were heightened by the song, because I was on
> > my way home from a Great Conversation, and singer reminded me of one of
> > my first such conversations in this lifetime. That one took place on a
> > cliff in Big Sur, on the lawn of what is now the Esalen Institute, and
> > was at the time the Big Sur Hot Springs Inn. I had arrived there a day
> > early for a small folk festival, and like the other early-arrivers found
> > my way to the cliff edge to watch the sun set over the Pacific.
> > 
> > I wound up sitting among a small group of people, not really noticing
> > who they were when I first sat down. I *did* notice that they were
> > passing a joint, and because I'd never smoked grass before, that
> > intrigued me. Then one of them noticed me and passed me the doobie, from
> > which I gratefully took my first puff. It was only then that I noticed
> > that one of the people passing it to me was Joan Baez, and that I was
> > sitting among a small group of the festival performers, which also
> > included her sister Mimi (wife of my hero at that time, the late Richard
> > Farina) and Al Kooper, whose work I knew from a couple of Dylan albums.
> > But I figured my best bet was to treat them as if I didn't recognize who
> > they were, and interact with them like I would anyone else. That turned
> > out to be the best approach I could have possibly taken, because we
> > wound up enjoying each others' company and having the most marvelous
> > stoned, soaring conversation I'd ever experienced in my life.
> > 
> > The song also captured a similar here-and-now sense of nostalgia and joy
> > last night, because I'd just come from another such Great Conversation.
> > My best friend Laurel and I drove over to Sauve to have dinner with our
> > former next-door-neighbor, good friend, and landlord during the years we
> > lived there, Robert. Joining us was another friend from Sauve, a jazz
> > pianist of some repute named Tony. We met at Robert's house and then
> > walked over to a new restaurant in town, created inside what had until
> > recently been a defunct train station, and had dinner. The cuisine was
> > excellent, as was their house wine (Laurel, Tony and I sharing it,
> > because Robert hasn't imbibed alcohol, drugs, or anything else of that
> > ilk for over 40 years), but it 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu

On 08/29/2013 10:39 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, "authfriend" 
 wrote:

>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, "Alex Stanley" 
 wrote:

> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, "authfriend"  
wrote:

> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, "Alex Stanley" 
 wrote:

> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly
> > > > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > > > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > > > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> > >
> > > Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?
> >
> > If Yahoo is reading the feedback forum that they provided,
> > they surely have an inkling that people are NOT happy with
> > it:
> >
> > http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451
>
> Yeah, my question was ill-phrased. I meant, any hint that
> Yahoo might be thinking about FIXING the problems?

I haven't read enough to see if anyone at Yahoo has responded.

> > > Are there any instructions for using it?
> >
> > The main Yahoo Groups page has a box in the upper right that
> > says, "Thank You! Thank you for being a great customer. We
> > made changes to your Y! Groups experience. Take a quick
> > tour", and there's a button to click for the product tour.
> > Apparently, for moderators, it nukes the moderator access
> > and controls.
>
> Jeez. Thanks. One more question: Do you know if there are any
> particular browsers that work better than others for
> negotiating the Neo interface on the Web?
>

I don't know. Basically, the neo interface is the Yahoo Groups version 
of Yahoo's new webmail interface, where it loads more posts as you 
scroll down. Any current web browser should be able to handle it.




Heh, I checked the site on Chrome where I maintain the web login and I 
wasn't logged in so clicked on "My Groups" and it said there were no 
groups associated with this email.  That isn't true or I wouldn't be 
able to post via email or receive posts via email.  Yet another Yahoo 
fuck-up.


Yahoo has been a long time joke in the Bay Area and known for their 
shitty programming.  Hell, they still can't keep my location in place 
even though on Yahoo News it clearly shows me logged in and my account 
info says where I'm from.  Just shit poor engineering by cheap 20 
somethings fresh out of college who think they know everything and know 
next to nothing.  Like the little shit I talked to a year ago at tech 
show who was at the YouTube booth.


When many of us grew up we had folks a little older than us boxing our 
ears in our early twenties.  It was their way of saying "you think you 
know something but you don't know that much yet."  Today's kids grew up 
with the "you always win" bullshit which was perpetuated in the 
educational field starting in the 1980s to fend off teenage suicides.


And speaking of YouTube they keep harping at me when I visit there about 
using MY real name from my Gmail account for the channel name.  I keep 
clicking on the choice of leaving the channel name as it is.  The little 
dumb shits have never heard of "stage names."


Or how about LinkedIn treating me, a senior citizen, like I'm a 20 
something starting out "my career."  We could all teach those little 
shits a thing or two.









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Good points about parents protecting their kids, Richard. Do you think that's 
why yahoo placed it so high in their *news* list?





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
 


  
On 8/29/2013 11:26 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
>I don't know bhairitu, sometimes I think war is the running amuck of what 
>Freud called the superego, that human aspect that thinks it's right and 
>everyone should do as it says. 
>
>
>
>As for their counting on Americans to have short memories, I think they're 
>also counting on Americans being easily distracted. This is what triggers me, 
>what I see in the yahoo news line up. I mean, who really cares what dance move 
>some silly entertainment person did?! 
>
It's probably the parents that care what their children are watching on TV and 
where they are surfing on the internet. Maybe they don't approve of their 
daughters going around dressed in their underwear simulating deviant sex in 
public, or for that matter, their sons going around town with their pants 
hanging down showing their boxer shorts. 

Hollywood kids like Miley and Lindsay are going off the rails in
public - just like juveniles at an unsupervised birthday party with
alcohol - caught up in a Hollywood spiral downwards, trapped inside
a young girl's body, stuffed with drugs and craving attention. I
could be wrong about this but I don't think so.

"Children marinating in a culture of online porn, sexting, rainbow
parties and worse have little experience with other ways of relating
emotionally." - Kathleen Parker



>
> From: Bhairitu 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
> 
>
>
>  
>War is the product of an adolescent mind.  We've been told for over a decade 
>that al-Qaeda is our enemy.  Now their our allies?  Guess Barack's puppet 
>masters think we were born yesterday.  In fact, they count on the American 
>public to have short memories.  One thing practicing yoga all these years 
>should do for you is give you a great memory.  Many of us remember growing up 
>during the Cold War and being told that in the Soviet Union they spied on 
>everyone and there was no privacy.  Now they want to do the same here. 
>
>Do you actually believe that Obama "weighs
the options" and makes the decisions in the
WH?  Wow John, I've a bridge nearby that
will be available next week at a new low
price.
>
>BTW, I'm not paranoid.  I'm angry as any
decent human being should be about these
villains corrupting society and stealing our
rights and our money.  Do I hate America? 
You betcha, because this is no longer
"America."
>
>On 08/28/2013 08:34 PM, John wrote:
>
>  
>>Bhairitu,
>>
>>One of Obama's options is to NOT attack
directly but to supply the rebels with
the needed weapons and ammunitions they
need to fight Assad. He might also
choose a "no fly zone" against Assad's
airforce. That means, the US Air Force
will be involved in enforcing this
policy.
>>
>>This could possibly tip the progress of
the war towards the rebel. At the same
time, the rebel leadership should be
able to setup a new government for the
benefit of the Syrian people.
>>
>>At this time, Obama is still weighing
his options and we should find out very
soon what that option will be.
>>
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>
>>> "If Barack Obama decides to attack
the Syrian regime, he has ensured – 
>>> for the very first time in history
– that the United States will be on 
>>> the same side as al-Qa'ida."
>>> 
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html
>>> 
>>> Of course al-CIAda as some of us
call it was started by the CIA to fight 
>>> against the Russians in
Afghanistan. Your tax dollars at work
proud 
>>> Americans!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > > > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > > > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > > > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> > > 
> > > Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?
> > 
> > If Yahoo is reading the feedback forum that they provided,
> > they surely have an inkling that people are NOT happy with
> > it:
> > 
> > http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451
> 
> Yeah, my question was ill-phrased. I meant, any hint that
> Yahoo might be thinking about FIXING the problems?

I haven't read enough to see if anyone at Yahoo has responded.
   
> > > Are there any instructions for using it?
> > 
> > The main Yahoo Groups page has a box in the upper right that
> > says, "Thank You! Thank you for being a great customer. We
> > made changes to your Y! Groups experience. Take a quick
> > tour", and there's a button to click for the product tour.
> > Apparently, for moderators, it nukes the moderator access
> > and controls.
> 
> Jeez. Thanks. One more question: Do you know if there are any 
> particular browsers that work better than others for
> negotiating the Neo interface on the Web?
>

I don't know. Basically, the neo interface is the Yahoo Groups version of 
Yahoo's new webmail interface, where it loads more posts as you scroll down. 
Any current web browser should be able to handle it.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Is it possible for anyone to explain to me about the difference between Digest 
and Web site? When I go to the archives, which is that?




 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> 
> Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?
> 
> Are there any instructions for using it?

Also:

Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

How about Digest, do you know?


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 8/29/2013 11:26 AM, Share Long wrote:
I don't know bhairitu, sometimes I think war is the running amuck of 
what Freud called the superego, that human aspect that thinks it's 
right and everyone should do as it says.


As for their counting on Americans to have short memories, I think 
they're also counting on Americans being easily distracted. This is 
what triggers me, what I see in the yahoo news line up. I mean, who 
really cares what dance move some silly entertainment person did?!
It's probably the parents that care what their children are watching on 
TV and where they are surfing on the internet. Maybe they don't approve 
of their daughters going around dressed in their underwear simulating 
deviant sex in public, or for that matter, their sons going around town 
with their pants hanging down showing their boxer shorts.


Hollywood kids like Miley and Lindsay are going off the rails in public 
- just like juveniles at an unsupervised birthday party with alcohol - 
caught up in a Hollywood spiral downwards, trapped inside a young girl's 
body, stuffed with drugs and craving attention. I could be wrong about 
this but I don't think so.


"Children marinating in a culture of online porn, sexting, rainbow 
parties and worse have little experience with other ways of relating 
emotionally." - Kathleen Parker




*From:* Bhairitu 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

War is the product of an adolescent mind.  We've been told for over a 
decade that al-Qaeda is our enemy.  Now their our allies?  Guess 
Barack's puppet masters think we were born yesterday.  In fact, they 
count on the American public to have short memories.  One thing 
practicing yoga all these years should do for you is give you a great 
memory.  Many of us remember growing up during the Cold War and being 
told that in the Soviet Union they spied on everyone and there was no 
privacy.  Now they want to do the same here.


Do you actually believe that Obama "weighs the options" and makes the 
decisions in the WH?  Wow John, I've a bridge nearby that will be 
available next week at a new low price.


BTW, I'm not paranoid.  I'm angry as any decent human being should be 
about these villains corrupting society and stealing our rights and 
our money.  Do I hate America? You betcha, because this is no longer 
"America."


On 08/28/2013 08:34 PM, John wrote:

Bhairitu,

One of Obama's options is to NOT attack directly but to supply the 
rebels with the needed weapons and ammunitions they need to fight 
Assad. He might also choose a "no fly zone" against Assad's airforce. 
That means, the US Air Force will be involved in enforcing this policy.


This could possibly tip the progress of the war towards the rebel. At 
the same time, the rebel leadership should be able to setup a new 
government for the benefit of the Syrian people.


At this time, Obama is still weighing his options and we should find 
out very soon what that option will be.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Bhairitu  
 wrote:

>
> "If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured –
> for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on
> the same side as al-Qa'ida."
>
> 
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html

>
> Of course al-CIAda as some of us call it was started by the CIA to 
fight

> against the Russians in Afghanistan. Your tax dollars at work proud
> Americans!
>










Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
I think they pay attention to that feedback as it is again possible to visit 
later pages by clicking on an arrow rather than scrolling down which a lot of 
people complained about. But it's taken them some time to respond.





 From: Alex Stanley 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> 
> Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?

If Yahoo is reading the feedback forum that they provided, they surely have an 
inkling that people are NOT happy with it:

http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451

> Are there any instructions for using it?
>

The main Yahoo Groups page has a box in the upper right that says, "Thank You! 
Thank you for being a great customer. We made changes to your Y! Groups 
experience. Take a quick tour", and there's a button to click for the product 
tour. Apparently, for moderators, it nukes the moderator access and controls.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Email is fine. In fact, can now get to later pages either by scrolling or by 
clicking a little arrow for Next Page. BUT for getting to a url, an extra step 
is now needed.





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> 
> Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?
> 
> Are there any instructions for using it?

Also:

Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

How about Digest, do you know?


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> > 
> > Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?
> 
> If Yahoo is reading the feedback forum that they provided,
> they surely have an inkling that people are NOT happy with
> it:
> 
> http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451

Yeah, my question was ill-phrased. I meant, any hint that
Yahoo might be thinking about FIXING the problems?
  
> > Are there any instructions for using it?
> 
> The main Yahoo Groups page has a box in the upper right that
> says, "Thank You! Thank you for being a great customer. We
> made changes to your Y! Groups experience. Take a quick
> tour", and there's a button to click for the product tour.
> Apparently, for moderators, it nukes the moderator access
> and controls.

Jeez. Thanks. One more question: Do you know if there are any 
particular browsers that work better than others for
negotiating the Neo interface on the Web?





[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> 
> Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?
> 
> Are there any instructions for using it?

Also:

Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

How about Digest, do you know?




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> 
> Also:
> 
> Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

I have no idea how it looks in Yahoo webmail. My Gmail feed in Thunderbird is 
unchanged.
 
> How about Digest, do you know?

I have no idea.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> 
> Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?

If Yahoo is reading the feedback forum that they provided, they surely have an 
inkling that people are NOT happy with it:

http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451
 
> Are there any instructions for using it?
>

The main Yahoo Groups page has a box in the upper right that says, "Thank You! 
Thank you for being a great customer. We made changes to your Y! Groups 
experience. Take a quick tour", and there's a button to click for the product 
tour. Apparently, for moderators, it nukes the moderator access and controls.



[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> > assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> > is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> > mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.
> 
> Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?
> 
> Are there any instructions for using it?

Also:

Is it as bad with email as it is with the Web site?

How about Digest, do you know?




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread turquoiseb


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being 
> randomly assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" 
> interface...

And at random times. I've gotten stuck with it
several times today, and then it just randomly
flips back to the old interface. 

> ...and it is a complete mess. I just checked, and 
> another Yahoo ID of mine is now on Neo, and it is 
> truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.

That's really it: "a clusterfuck of pure fail." 
By far the worst "upgrade" in a long history of
sucky "improvements." If they roll this out, 
they will lose their "lead" over Google within
a month, and never get it back. 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
So, I installed Thunderbird on the advice of Alex and Barry2 - it's much 
better  - and intuitive as well. Did I mention that Thunderbird is free?


On 8/29/2013 11:55 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:



What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it is a 
complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of mine is now on 
Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.







[FairfieldLife] Re: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

2013-08-29 Thread emilymae.reyn
My Jack Russell wears her heart on her sleeve and she's very devoted to me; I 
had never experienced "dog love" before - but I've learned a lot from her.  
She's higher maintenance than our sweet cat, but that's O.K., she's worth it. I 
do need to put us both through more training.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > LOL - love #23 & #24
> > 
> > I guess I love cats more than dogs (does that make me an introvert? :-)),
> > so I absolutely loved #7, that cute, little cat jumping all over that
> > introverted dog :-)
> 
> I loved that picture of the lab in #9, classic. And if you can love a cat 
> you're a better human than me; I think they are generally harder to love but 
> a dog is a no brainer - or at least they gravitate to my heart easily.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:54 PM, emilymae.reyn wrote:
> > 
> > > Excellent Ravi.
> > >
> > > No. 23.  She goes to bed before her owner does
> > > No. 24.  She maintains an existentially ferocious exterior to protect her
> > > inner introvert
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > To subscribe, send a message to:
> > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > Or go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly 
> assigned to the Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it
> is a complete mess. I just checked, and another Yahoo ID of
> mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a clusterfuck of pure fail.

Have you seen any signs that Yahoo knows there are problems?

Are there any instructions for using it?



[FairfieldLife] Re: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Alex Stanley

What happened is that you got Neo'd. People are being randomly assigned to the 
Yahoo Groups brand new "Neo" interface, and it is a complete mess. I just 
checked, and another Yahoo ID of mine is now on Neo, and it is truly a 
clusterfuck of pure fail.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
And I really enjoyed seeing this side of you, Doc (-:
I also liked that phrase about sunroof and stars.





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust
 


  
I really enjoyed this, Barry. Both experiences you shared, getting high with 
"the Madonna" in Big Sur, and your conversation last night. I like your phrase, 
"driving with the sunroof...open, to feel closer to the stars". 

I am often in awe of those I meet. Once you get beyond the social interface, 
everyone is pretty fucking amazing. These days, everyone is really peaking 
their potential. Some of these athletes, artists and scientists are so gifted, 
I look at what they do, with my jaw on the floor, thinking how could I 
accomplish that in *ten* lifetimes.

Great to see another side of you, and enjoy the south of France - looks like it 
agrees with you.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I arrived back at our vacation house late last night, after driving with
> the sunroof of the car open so I could feel closer to the stars that are
> so present here in the south of France and that are so missing in Paris.
> I was feeling high and nostalgic and happy, so didn't feel like spoiling
> that by reading FFL in depth, but a quick scan of Message View revealed
> the phrase in the Subject line above, so because that's one of my
> favorite nostalgia songs, I clicked on the post and listened to it. It
> provided a marvelous "final touch" to an already marvelous evening, so I
> thank whoever posted it. If you like the song, too, check out this
> version. which contains a few clips from that rarest of rarities, the
> long-lost Bob Dylan/Sam Shepard film "
>  
>  Renaldo & Clara
>   ."
> 
>    
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wI0j9nkkE
> 
> 
> My feelings of nostalgia were heightened by the song, because I was on
> my way home from a Great Conversation, and singer reminded me of one of
> my first such conversations in this lifetime. That one took place on a
> cliff in Big Sur, on the lawn of what is now the Esalen Institute, and
> was at the time the Big Sur Hot Springs Inn. I had arrived there a day
> early for a small folk festival, and like the other early-arrivers found
> my way to the cliff edge to watch the sun set over the Pacific.
> 
> I wound up sitting among a small group of people, not really noticing
> who they were when I first sat down. I *did* notice that they were
> passing a joint, and because I'd never smoked grass before, that
> intrigued me. Then one of them noticed me and passed me the doobie, from
> which I gratefully took my first puff. It was only then that I noticed
> that one of the people passing it to me was Joan Baez, and that I was
> sitting among a small group of the festival performers, which also
> included her sister Mimi (wife of my hero at that time, the late Richard
> Farina) and Al Kooper, whose work I knew from a couple of Dylan albums.
> But I figured my best bet was to treat them as if I didn't recognize who
> they were, and interact with them like I would anyone else. That turned
> out to be the best approach I could have possibly taken, because we
> wound up enjoying each others' company and having the most marvelous
> stoned, soaring conversation I'd ever experienced in my life.
> 
> The song also captured a similar here-and-now sense of nostalgia and joy
> last night, because I'd just come from another such Great Conversation.
> My best friend Laurel and I drove over to Sauve to have dinner with our
> former next-door-neighbor, good friend, and landlord during the years we
> lived there, Robert. Joining us was another friend from Sauve, a jazz
> pianist of some repute named Tony. We met at Robert's house and then
> walked over to a new restaurant in town, created inside what had until
> recently been a defunct train station, and had dinner. The cuisine was
> excellent, as was their house wine (Laurel, Tony and I sharing it,
> because Robert hasn't imbibed alcohol, drugs, or anything else of that
> ilk for over 40 years), but it was really the conversation that made the
> evening so spectacular.
> 
> Robert's an artist of some note. He's also painfully shy, so we were the
> perfect company for him -- good friends who treated him as a good
> friend, and nothing more. After all, he'd moved to this small town 22
> years earlier to *avoid* being recognized everywhere he went, in a
> country that rightly considered him pretty much a god, one of the
> primary inventors of an artform (BD - Bande Dessiné - the graphic
> novel) that they held in high esteem. It was pretty mu

[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread raunchydog













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
I don't know bhairitu, sometimes I think war is the running amuck of what Freud 
called the superego, that human aspect that thinks it's right and everyone 
should do as it says. 


As for their counting on Americans to have short memories, I think they're also 
counting on Americans being easily distracted. This is what triggers me, what I 
see in the yahoo news line up. I mean, who really cares what dance move some 
silly entertainment person did?! 



 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda
 


  
War is the product of an adolescent mind.  We've been told for over a decade 
that al-Qaeda is our enemy.  Now their our allies?  Guess Barack's puppet 
masters think we were born yesterday.  In fact, they count on the American 
public to have short memories.  One thing practicing yoga all these years 
should do for you is give you a great memory.  Many of us remember growing up 
during the Cold War and being told that in the Soviet Union they spied on 
everyone and there was no privacy.  Now they want to do the same here. 

Do you actually believe that Obama "weighs the options" and makes
  the decisions in the WH?  Wow John, I've a bridge nearby that will
  be available next week at a new low price.

BTW, I'm not paranoid.  I'm angry as any decent human being should
  be about these villains corrupting society and stealing our rights
  and our money.  Do I hate America?  You betcha, because this is no
  longer "America."

On 08/28/2013 08:34 PM, John wrote:

  
>Bhairitu,
>
>One of Obama's options is to NOT attack directly but to
  supply the rebels with the needed weapons and ammunitions
  they need to fight Assad. He might also choose a "no fly
  zone" against Assad's airforce. That means, the US Air
  Force will be involved in enforcing this policy.
>
>This could possibly tip the progress of the war towards
  the rebel. At the same time, the rebel leadership should
  be able to setup a new government for the benefit of the
  Syrian people.
>
>At this time, Obama is still weighing his options and we
  should find out very soon what that option will be.
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>
>> "If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime,
  he has ensured – 
>> for the very first time in history – that the United
  States will be on 
>> the same side as al-Qa'ida."
>> 
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html
>> 
>> Of course al-CIAda as some of us call it was started
  by the CIA to fight 
>> against the Russians in Afghanistan. Your tax dollars
  at work proud 
>> Americans!
>>
>
>

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

2013-08-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

> Handles became popular because with 300 baud modems you didn't
> want to waste bits on your full name.  Nor did we want to
> waste bits on "Dear", so the memo form was adopted for email
> and online posts.

FWIW, many women use gender-neutral handles these days to avoid
harassment.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on the dangers of porn

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
...more importantly, don't tell Medicare (-:





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on the 
dangers of porn
 


  
just don't tell the Social Security Administration...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Lauren Hutton made my day a few years ago when I read this quote of hers in a 
> magazine: 60 is the new 30!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:44 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on 
> the dangers of porn
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Even though she hides it behind the microphone pretty well, I am sorta 
> > curious if she is distantly related to David Letterman, who also has a gap 
> > between *his* two front teeth?
> 
> And don't forget one of the most unforgettable teeth gapers Lauren Hutton.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll bet she can touch her tongue to her nose, whaddya think? Here's
> > > Madonna from 1984 - everybody clapped - she takes off her veil at about
> > > a minute in.  Ha.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXPMLTmpPpY
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bhairitu:
> > > > > Ever notice how fundamentalists and conservatives produce some of
> > > the
> > > > > flattest videos and movies?
> > > > >
> > > > Addressing the important issues!
> > > >
> > > > No, I haven't noticed that about conservative movies - but I have
> > > > noticed
> > > > how lurid and crass some of the liberal Hollywood TV music performers
> > > > have become, which has led to a general musical bankruptcy these days.
> > > >
> > > > Go figure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > p-main-lead>
> > > >
> > > > "Most of the media backlash focused on Cyrus' crass opportunism,
> > > > which
> > > > stole the show from Lady Gaga, normally no slouch in the foot-stamping
> > > > look-at-me department. But the real scandal was how atrocious Cyrus'
> > > > performance was in artistic terms. She was clumsy, flat-footed and
> > > > cringingly unsexy, an effect heightened by her manic grin."
> > > >
> > > > 'Miley, Go Back to School'
> > > > Time Magazine:
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/o3f9pgc
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on the dangers of porn

2013-08-29 Thread Share Long
Well these are not exactly parallel because death and rebirth are opposites 
whereas 30 and 60 years old exist on a continuum.





 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:50 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on the 
dangers of porn
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Lauren Hutton made my day a few years ago when I read this quote of hers in a 
> magazine: 60 is the new 30!

And death is, perhaps, rebirth!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:44 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on 
> the dangers of porn
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Even though she hides it behind the microphone pretty well, I am sorta 
> > curious if she is distantly related to David Letterman, who also has a gap 
> > between *his* two front teeth?
> 
> And don't forget one of the most unforgettable teeth gapers Lauren Hutton.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll bet she can touch her tongue to her nose, whaddya think? Here's
> > > Madonna from 1984 - everybody clapped - she takes off her veil at about
> > > a minute in.  Ha.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXPMLTmpPpY
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bhairitu:
> > > > > Ever notice how fundamentalists and conservatives produce some of
> > > the
> > > > > flattest videos and movies?
> > > > >
> > > > Addressing the important issues!
> > > >
> > > > No, I haven't noticed that about conservative movies - but I have
> > > > noticed
> > > > how lurid and crass some of the liberal Hollywood TV music performers
> > > > have become, which has led to a general musical bankruptcy these days.
> > > >
> > > > Go figure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > p-main-lead>
> > > >
> > > > "Most of the media backlash focused on Cyrus' crass opportunism,
> > > > which
> > > > stole the show from Lady Gaga, normally no slouch in the foot-stamping
> > > > look-at-me department. But the real scandal was how atrocious Cyrus'
> > > > performance was in artistic terms. She was clumsy, flat-footed and
> > > > cringingly unsexy, an effect heightened by her manic grin."
> > > >
> > > > 'Miley, Go Back to School'
> > > > Time Magazine:
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/o3f9pgc
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread raunchydog













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu
Ariana Huffington is a computer illiterate probably still trying to 
figure out her Blackberry.  A lot of the late comers to computer seem to 
hate anonymity but it is as old as the hills.  And so are trolls.  You 
must not have read the "letters to the editors" in newspapers back in 
the day where they printed your real name.  Thing is, everyone new these 
curmudgeons who were always writing in to the paper and pushing their 
agendas to get attention.  They were the online era trolls.


Handles became popular because with 300 baud modems you didn't want to 
waste bits on your full name.  Nor did we want to waste bits on "Dear", 
so the memo form was adopted for email and online posts.


And if you have to use your real name, have you ever checked to see how 
many people just in Iowa have the same name as you not to mention the 
US?  Last I checked there were 11 people in the Bay Area who had the 
same name I have.


The sky isn't falling because the posting limits went away and I would 
declare it a success.  Sure the first week there were a lot of posts but 
look at the trend, this week is more moderate.  We don't need any 
fucking posting limits!  Nor do we need any "block chairmen" to moderate 
our speech.  This isn't Cuba, Buck.



On 08/29/2013 03:05 AM, Buck wrote:


Seems Yahoo! By policy guidelines of moderation is not the only 
internet provider Ratcheting up troll-controls:


Huffingtonpost: "I predict the same will happen here and anywhere else 
where troll-controls are ratcheting up. Instead of killing business, 
it will bring back those who've stayed away, unwilling to put up with 
online ugliness; in fact, several people I've heard from have made 
that exact point."


"this action by /HuffPost/, as well as the moderation policies on 
Facebook and other sites, are good efforts towards raising the bar. 
Tweaks will surely be needed, but it's a start. Most meaningful online 
discourse /does not/require anonymity to be rich, candid and 
inspiring, but it does require a willingness to develop smart, 
respectful, effective communication skills. That used to be a societal 
norm; it ought to be again. I hope, like the cigarette ban, we get to 
the point where we can't even remember what it was like when trollers 
ran the show, just as it seems strange to remember when the table next 
to us could smoke-out our dinner without consideration."



It is timely, -Buck


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lorraine-devon-wilke/welcome-to-the-cult-of-an_b_3813766.html 




>

>
> Yup, the ad hominem is right up the with pornography on Yahoo 
groups. Yahoo is being ahead of the curve on this on the internet. 
Yahoo really is being quite good and spiritual with its new guidelines 
for groups. FFL should come into alignment.

>
> >
> > Friends, But the larger problem we have now is with the new Yahoo 
guidelines and our under-moderated ad hominem homid members 
threatening the life=blood of the whole group.

> >
> > >
> > > People obviously have way too many posts to fire and burn here.
> > > >
> > > > Recent case in point, quote: "I thought it was mean spirited, 
actually. Same old invectives hurled at someone:

> > > > " Are you dumb, or dull, or nuts?""
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, 
interact, and share ideas with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the 
terms and conditions of your use ..  some of the key things to 
remember are:

> > > > > > 1. You may not harass, abuse, threaten, or advocate violence"
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, personal by its nature the use the ad hominem is abuse 
on all these levels.

> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends;
> > > > > > > But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum 
for FFL: Yes, by the virtue of the new Yahoo-groups guidelines being 
placed over us we should directly outlaw the ad hominem and 
name-calling forms of argument as lower than the lowest and directly 
banish those who use them here as the fundamental and great threat to 
our whole way of life here on a Yahoo-group that they are.

> > > > > > > Kindly,
> > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yep these people have taken toll the life spark of 
FairfieldLife here on Yahoo-groups with the Ad hominems. Time comes 
now to do with serious moderation or surely let the list die entirely. 
Seems a time has come for action one way or the other. Radical action. 
Resuscitation or it dies.

> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much 
is vitriol

> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly 
are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in 
civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by 
stark contrast

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and al-Qaeda

2013-08-29 Thread Bhairitu
War is the product of an adolescent mind.  We've been told for over a 
decade that al-Qaeda is our enemy.  Now their our allies?  Guess 
Barack's puppet masters think we were born yesterday.  In fact, they 
count on the American public to have short memories.  One thing 
practicing yoga all these years should do for you is give you a great 
memory.  Many of us remember growing up during the Cold War and being 
told that in the Soviet Union they spied on everyone and there was no 
privacy. Now they want to do the same here.


Do you actually believe that Obama "weighs the options" and makes the 
decisions in the WH?  Wow John, I've a bridge nearby that will be 
available next week at a new low price.


BTW, I'm not paranoid.  I'm angry as any decent human being should be 
about these villains corrupting society and stealing our rights and our 
money.  Do I hate America?  You betcha, because this is no longer "America."


On 08/28/2013 08:34 PM, John wrote:


Bhairitu,

One of Obama's options is to NOT attack directly but to supply the 
rebels with the needed weapons and ammunitions they need to fight 
Assad. He might also choose a "no fly zone" against Assad's airforce. 
That means, the US Air Force will be involved in enforcing this policy.


This could possibly tip the progress of the war towards the rebel. At 
the same time, the rebel leadership should be able to setup a new 
government for the benefit of the Syrian people.


At this time, Obama is still weighing his options and we should find 
out very soon what that option will be.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Bhairitu  wrote:

>
> "If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured --
> for the very first time in history -- that the United States will be on
> the same side as al-Qa'ida."
>
> 
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html

>
> Of course al-CIAda as some of us call it was started by the CIA to 
fight

> against the Russians in Afghanistan. Your tax dollars at work proud
> Americans!
>






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