[FairfieldLife] Dr. Robert Lanza ; Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to Understanding the Nature of the Universe

2014-02-15 Thread Jason


Dr. Robert Lanza ; Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to 
Understanding the Nature of the Universe


http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/scientists-claim-that-quantum-theory-proves-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-at-death/

[FairfieldLife] A Big Think Interview With Raj Patel

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNokVyBTGy0 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNokVyBTGy0



[FairfieldLife] Howard Stern Show - Interview with meditators. The Donovan Interview

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJO841glyo 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJO841glyo

[FairfieldLife] Howard Stern Show - Interview with meditators. The Donovan Interview with Maharishi in India

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
About his extraordinary career, TM and with Maharishi in India
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJO841glyo 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJO841glyo



Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than 
it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes 
and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and 
holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep 
dip.

On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:49 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Shame on you MHJ.  Om,
 First-Class Bull-Manure you
 Spread Wide and spread Thick here, MHJ.   This TM now is not
 a “cult”
 no more as much as you might like to declare that it is.  As
 we used
 to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a
 'cult' like
 christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way
 too
 dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and
 the evident
 scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is
 something malevolent in what you do to something that is so
 good in
 itself as what is simply transcending meditation.   In this
 new
 corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation
 is plainly
 now different.  Your commentary is clearly out of date.  I
 appreciate
 that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to
 the
 hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you
 are out of
 it.
 
 -Buck in the Dome
 mjackson74 writes: I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State
 of
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful
 ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to
 Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
   
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  I shall
 begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole
 Goods so they don't support cults.
 
 
  On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support
 Peace
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of
 
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
 
 Drink: Vedic
 
 Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


[FairfieldLife] Howard Stein Show - interview with successful meditators - Jerry Seinfeld Calls In 02/04/14

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_ZIXNVs2k 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_ZIXNVs2k
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: Howard Stein Show - interview with successful meditators - Jerry Seinfeld Calls In 02/04/14

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
and this also with Jerry Seinfeld:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYkuLZuKVz4 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYkuLZuKVz4



[FairfieldLife] RE: Howard Stein Show - interview with successful meditators - Jerry Seinfeld Calls In 02/04/14

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbDJ3uBl9M 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbDJ3uBl9M

[FairfieldLife] The Howard Stein Show: Did Paul McCartney invent heavy metal music ?

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcYq3vtkITU 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcYq3vtkITU

[FairfieldLife] RE: Just For Those Special Brits Here At FFL

2014-02-15 Thread salyavin808
Oh dear hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Just For Those Special Brits Here At FFL

2014-02-15 Thread salyavin808
Thanks, these are all better than the ones I gotbut are you saying that not 
everyone is like this?

[FairfieldLife] Shockingly expensive!?

2014-02-15 Thread cardemaister
http://unmonday.com/collections/shop http://unmonday.com/collections/shop
957 USD!!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Shockingly expensive!?

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
Loved that speaker leather case, 249.- made of finnish cows ? Not so expensive 
:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Astounding Few Moments

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Sweet, Ann, thanks for posting and telling us about this wonderful website.





On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:09 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
For anyone who cherishes the exceptional, the courageous and the extraordinary 
check this out:
http://www.reshareworthy.com/owen-and-haatchi-documentary/



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Xeno, nice to know that even sociopaths have valentines. BTW, I had spanakopita 
for dinner last night at Dome Market! Go figure!




On Friday, February 14, 2014 4:59 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
According to the departed Ravi, I am a sociopath, and therefore could have no 
empathy whatever for your hurt feelings. |:-   I do have a Valentine this day, 
in the common sense (female), but it's not on FFL. She just started her 
program, but I must fix dinner, so I have to meditate later.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


Xeno, my feelings are hurt that you think turq has a better sense of smell than 
I do. Happy Valentine's Day (-:





On Friday, February 14, 2014 3:21 PM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote:

 
No. Barry and I have no private conversations. I have no knowledge of his 
private e-mail address or addresses, or of his current residence, though I have 
seen a depiction the general area he lives in, in the Netherlands, on a map and 
on Google Earth, since he described it in a post some time ago. I am sure he 
has no need to correspond with me. Button pushing does interest me. One of the 
tasks of spirituality is to reduce the number and sensitivity of the 
psychological buttons we have. Now, how many on this forum got their buttons 
pushed by my previous post?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


Hmm, Xeno seems to be studying to become a troll/button-pusher. Barry must be 
tutoring him behind
the scenes.

Thank you for this autobiographical post:
A new psychology paper studied the personalities of those who engage in 
trolling (known in some quarters as pushing buttons) on the Internet:


The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba and 
two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who engage in 
trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called 
Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others),
narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and 
empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).



Read more:


http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html





Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more than 
any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and 
meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots 
of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny 
looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. 
And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a 
flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or 
maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation 
in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM 
now is not hardly as bad as you portray it.  It is rapidly becoming more modern 
and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time.  And we 
don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle 
deep inside at the top.  If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see 
but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can.
 -Buck  

 

MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a 
cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots 
wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious 
observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting 
too much sheep dip. 

 Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick 
here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to 
declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 
'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too 
dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific 
spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you 
do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending 
meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental 
Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I 
appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the 
hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck 
in the Dome
 

 mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from 
Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.

 

 The Transcendental Meditative State of
Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
Drink: Vedic
Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/


 

 

 

   
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

  I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so 
they don't support cults.
 
 On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
   






[FairfieldLife] RE: Just For Those Special Brits Here At FFL

2014-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
At least some of the brits can sing :-)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp4339EbVn8 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp4339EbVn8
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uRlU81Kz0Q 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uRlU81Kz0Q
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S20yQaGSNQ 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S20yQaGSNQ



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/14/2014 8:48 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
This places button pushers in the strictly manipulative, deceitful, 
egotistical, self-obsessive remorseless unempathetic category.


The term 'button pusher' is frequently abused to slander opponents in 
heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of 
Internet etiquette.


[FairfieldLife] RE: Just For Those Special Brits Here At FFL

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Thanks, these are all better than the ones I gotbut are you saying that 
not everyone is like this?
 

 Nah, the rest of us go for stuff like cupids and hearts and gushing 
sentimentality.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
You need to read up on what cults actually are before you make such statements.

On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 1:02 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Nope, not a cult.  TM now as
 a corporation obviously
 is not a cult any more than any modern productive working
 corporation
 of employees is a 'cult'.  TM and meditators as a
 community now are
 just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline
 company. 
 And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking
 hats and
 coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner.
  And
 those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who
 organize
 a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight
 attendants or
 load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment.  TM is
 as very
 modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as
 Maharishi himself
 particularly set that in motion now.  TM now is not hardly
 as bad as you
 portray it.  It is rapidly becoming more modern and
 scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the
 time.  And we don't hardly see the gold hats and
 robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at
 the top.  If there is a cult it is possibly at that
 level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps
 and robes when they can.-Buck
  
 MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS
 different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I
 started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing
 robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu
 religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult,
 then you have been snorting too much sheep
 dip.
 Shame on you
 MHJ.  Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you
 Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ.   This TM now is not
 a “cult”
 no more as much as you might like to declare that it is.  As
 we used
 to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a
 'cult' like
 christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way
 too
 dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and
 the evident
 scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is
 something malevolent in what you do to something that is so
 good in
 itself as what is simply transcending meditation.   In this
 new
 corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation
 is plainly
 now different.  Your commentary is clearly out of date.  I
 appreciate
 that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to
 the
 hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you
 are out of
 it.-Buck
 in the Dome
 mjackson74 writes: I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State
 of
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful
 ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to
 Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
   
 
  ---In
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods so they don't support cults.
 
 
 
 On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support
 Peace
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of
 
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
 
 Drink: Vedic
 
 Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Again, dingbat, pushing buttons is the term Barry uses to characterize what 
he does. Is he slandering himself, do you think? 

  This places button pushers in the strictly manipulative, deceitful, 
egotistical, self-obsessive remorseless unempathetic category.
 

 The term 'button pusher' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated 
debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of Internet 
etiquette. 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

 You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than 
it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes 
and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and 
holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep 
dip.
 

 Cult can be just another word for family. Or community. Or support system. 
Question, which of these do not involve cult characteristics:
 The military
 Life in a monastery
 Life in a fraternity or sorority
 membership in the Masons
 membership in a gang
 life in FF Iowa
 I think the word cult is so loaded and has taken on such negative 
connotations that people can fail to see the few positive aspects of what cults 
are. For many, it is just a way of life, a way to stay feeling secure and a 
vehicle to stay surrounded by like-minded others. It isn't always a group 
headed by a brainwashing leader who controls everyone's every move - but it 
can be. I think lots of people seek out places where they feel like they are 
respected, understood, accepted and where common interests are pursued. These 
are just some of the insecurities and weaknesses that humans exhibit in 
various ways and at various times. I am not defending the TMO or cults, just 
saying that the word cult is often used to trigger a reaction, just as is the 
word religion.
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... 
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:49 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shame on you MHJ. Om,
 First-Class Bull-Manure you
 Spread Wide and spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not
 a “cult”
 no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As
 we used
 to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a
 'cult' like
 christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way
 too
 dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and
 the evident
 scientific spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is
 something malevolent in what you do to something that is so
 good in
 itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this
 new
 corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation
 is plainly
 now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I
 appreciate
 that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to
 the
 hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you
 are out of
 it. 
 
 -Buck in the Dome
 mjackson74 writes: I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State
 of
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful
 ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to
 Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
   
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  I shall
 begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole
 Goods so they don't support cults.
 
 
 On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support
 Peace
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of
 
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
 
 Drink: Vedic
 
 Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
 
   



Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
But big deal, they are selling yet another nostrum for those whose faith never 
dies - I guess they will trot out some vaidya clown to claim the ancient texts 
say that drinking this coffee is good for meditation.

On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 1:02 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Nope, not a cult.  TM now as
 a corporation obviously
 is not a cult any more than any modern productive working
 corporation
 of employees is a 'cult'.  TM and meditators as a
 community now are
 just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline
 company. 
 And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking
 hats and
 coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner.
  And
 those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who
 organize
 a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight
 attendants or
 load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment.  TM is
 as very
 modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as
 Maharishi himself
 particularly set that in motion now.  TM now is not hardly
 as bad as you
 portray it.  It is rapidly becoming more modern and
 scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the
 time.  And we don't hardly see the gold hats and
 robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at
 the top.  If there is a cult it is possibly at that
 level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps
 and robes when they can.-Buck
  
 MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS
 different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I
 started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing
 robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu
 religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult,
 then you have been snorting too much sheep
 dip.
 Shame on you
 MHJ.  Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you
 Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ.   This TM now is not
 a “cult”
 no more as much as you might like to declare that it is.  As
 we used
 to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a
 'cult' like
 christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way
 too
 dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and
 the evident
 scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is
 something malevolent in what you do to something that is so
 good in
 itself as what is simply transcending meditation.   In this
 new
 corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation
 is plainly
 now different.  Your commentary is clearly out of date.  I
 appreciate
 that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to
 the
 hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you
 are out of
 it.-Buck in the Dome
 mjackson74 writes: I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State
 of
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful
 ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to
 Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
   
 
  ---In
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods so they don't support cults.
 
 
 
 On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support
 Peace
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of
 
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
 
 Drink: Vedic
 
 Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Test: Can you spot the HYPOCRISY in this Barry Wright post?

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/14/2014 7:38 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Would not unflinching honesty require a response to what appears to be 
a breach of this assertion, without conditions!!?


To be honest, Steve, this post of Judy's is an example of Trollbaiting 
- the use of other trolls as an excuse for their own misbehavior, and in 
many cases, typecasting another user as a troll regardless of his or 
her intent.


[FairfieldLife] Sociological Research: Physical intimacy with strangers leads to Depression, Anxiety, low self-esteem

2014-02-15 Thread jedi_spock

Sociological Research: Physical intimacy with strangers 
leads to Depression, Anxiety, low self-esteem


As we predicted, people who engaged in more hookups had 
greater psychological distress. College students who 
recently engaged in casual sex reported lower levels of 
self-esteem, life-satisfaction, and happiness compared to 
those students who did not have casual sex in the past 
month. On the distress side of the equation, similarly, 
students who recently engaged in hookups had higher distress 
scores as indicated by levels of depression and anxiety. In 
contrast to the notion that men are okay with casual sex but 
women are not, we did not find sex differences in the 
relationships between casual sex and either distress or 
well-being. For both men and women engaging in true hookup 
sex, meaning with a casual stranger rather than a romantic 
partner or, even, “friend with benefits,” seemed to bode 
poorly for mental health and self-esteem. 

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/ 
201303/sexual-hookups-and-psychological-health 
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/sexual-hookups-and-psychological-health


In the first study to investigate the issue of self-esteem 
and hookups, both men and women who had ever engaged in an 
uncommitted sexual encounter had lower overall self-esteem 
scores compared with those without uncommitted sexual 
experiences (Paul et al., 2000). The potential causal 
direction of the relationship between self-esteem and 
uncommitted sex is yet unclear (Fielder  Carey, 2010; Paul 
et al., 2000).

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/02/ce-corner.aspx 
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/02/ce-corner.aspx

Casual sex has been glamorized in movies and on television. 
Casual sex websites, often accompanied with porn material, 
make it easy for partners to hook up.  

The philosophy underlying all this hype is that marriage is 
out; casual sex is harmless fun; everyone is doing it.

This is a seriously flawed philosophy. The psychological 
risks are minimized. The threat of possible psychological 
damage is ignored.

New research links casual sex to negative well-being, lower 
self-esteem, and higher levels of anxiety and depression...

http://blog.womenshealthmag.com/scoop/casual-sex/ 
http://blog.womenshealthmag.com/scoop/casual-sex/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Test: Can you spot the HYPOCRISY in this Barry Wright post?

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
I can't wait to see the Feeb fall for this one, even though he's perfectly well 
aware (as is Richard) that Barry typecasts himself as a troll, and I'm far more 
sinned against than sinning. If any troll deserves to be troll-baited once in 
awhile, it's Barry. 

 Would not unflinching honesty require a response to what appears to be a 
breach of this assertion, without conditions!!?
 

 To be honest, Steve, this post of Judy's is an example of Trollbaiting - the 
use of other trolls as an excuse for their own misbehavior, and in many cases, 
typecasting another user as a troll regardless of his or her intent.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/14/2014 1:19 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


A new psychology paper 
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324 studied the 
personalities of those who engage in trolling (known in some quarters 
as pushing buttons) on the Internet:




There is a fib in this sentence: this study mentioned on Slate, failed 
to define the termtroll and did not use the termbutton pusher in 
it's description. So, what we've got here is an example of circular 
logic: the undefined term troll is defined as a button pusher,which 
remains undefined.


The study found correlations, sometimes quite significant, between 
these traits and trolling behavior.


http://www.slate.com/internet_troll_personality_study/ 
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html


See the Troll FAQ:

http://rwilliams.us/troll_faq.htm


[FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread j_alexander_stanley
Sorry, Buck, I already sold my soul to the good folks in Bainbridge Island, WA, 
who make that unbelievably good Pegasus coffee. Combined with Radiance Dairy 
heavy cream, it is *truly* liquid enlightenment at its very finest. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Slate's readers are more than hip enough (as are FFLers) to know what trolling 
is. The actual study, I'd guess, does define it, but the text is behind a 
paywall. In any case, folks know it when they see it. But we can use the 
definition in your Troll FAQ: Troll - A person who sends duplicitous 
messages to get angry responses. 

 Barry's trolling is defined by his behavior. He calls it button pushing, but 
it's immediately identifiable as trolling by your own definition. Even Xeno, 
his staunchest defender, agrees.
 

 And of course there's no fib in the Slate article.
 

  A new psychology paper studied the personalities of those who engage in 
trolling (known in some quarters as pushing buttons) on the Internet:
 

 There is a fib in this sentence: this study mentioned on Slate, failed to 
define the termtroll and did not use the termbutton pusher in it's 
description. So, what we've got here is an example of circular logic: the 
undefined term troll is defined as a button pusher,which remains undefined. 
 
 The study found correlations, sometimes quite significant, between these 
traits and trolling behavior.
 
 http://www.slate.com/internet_troll_personality_study/ 
 
 See the Troll FAQ:
 
 http://rwilliams.us/troll_faq.htm http://rwilliams.us/troll_faq.htm
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
MJ, See Weber's comments on 'cult' in Melton's Intro to The Postcharismatic 
Fate of New Religious Movements:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565
 

 
 Your thesis around TM being a 'cult' has a problem in that we in TM no longer 
have a charismatic leader of TM. We are either administrators or meditators in 
TM and anyone in TM is enfranchised by a little of both under Maharishi's 
Absolute Theories of Management and Government. You clearly are full of your 
own personal BS and have your ax grinding about something.  I feels a sorrow 
for thee in thy lack of peace around this.
 -Buck
 

 “Which would you rather experience: living the paradox or understanding it to 
your satisfaction?” Not either position is mutually exclusive, or that there is 
a third possibility of both.
 


 

 

 MJ writes:
 

You need to read up on what cults actually are before you make such statements. 

 Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more 
than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and 
meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots 
of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny 
looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. 
And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a 
flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or 
maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation 
in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM 
now is not hardly as bad as you portray it.  It is rapidly becoming more modern 
and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time.  And we 
don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle 
deep inside at the top.  If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see 
but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can. -Buck  

 

MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a 
cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots 
wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious 
observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting 
too much sheep dip. 

 Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick 
here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to 
declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 
'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too 
dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific 
spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you 
do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending 
meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental 
Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I 
appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the 
hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck 
in the Dome
 

 mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from 
Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.

 

 The Transcendental Meditative State of
Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
Drink: Vedic
Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

  I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so 
they don't support cults.
 
 
 On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
   









[FairfieldLife] Married Kama Sutra: The World's Least Erotic Sex Manual

2014-02-15 Thread turquoiseb
http://marriedkamasutra.com/ http://marriedkamasutra.com/
Click the preview http://issuu.com/littlebrown/docs/marriedkamasut_hcpubf1-crop 
link





[FairfieldLife] RE: Married Kama Sutra: The World's Least Erotic Sex Manual

2014-02-15 Thread j_alexander_stanley
In our house, we practice Left-Handed Married Kama Sutra, where the man is the 
only one who knows how to properly load the dishwasher.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://marriedkamasutra.com/ http://marriedkamasutra.com/
Click the preview http://issuu.com/littlebrown/docs/marriedkamasut_hcpubf1-crop 
link







[FairfieldLife] John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread jchwelch
I've previously posted on FFL about John Knapp who (through 2011ish) had been 
around the TM/anti-TM circuit for decades. Folks who were around FFL prior to 
2010ish(?) are most likely familiar with Knapp. 

 

 I'm pretty sure I previously stated on FFL that I would post an update once NY 
state made a ruling regarding Knapp's Social Work license. NY state's ruling 
was made on 1/14/14. NY state made the ruling public sometime in the past week.

 

 Knapp was my former cult-recovery therapist from around July, 2008, until 
August, 2010.
 

 Brief timeline:
 October, 2010: Formal complaint was filed with NY State regarding John M. 
Knapp. (I filed the complaint.)
 December, 2010: NY state opened an official investigation
 November, 2012: NY state held a hearing for Knapp before the licensing board. 
Knapp did not show.
 January, 2014: NY state made its official ruling.
 

 From the NY Office of Professional Discipline site:
 John Knapp, Bloomington, IN

 Profession: Licensed Master Social Worker; Lic. No. 071643; Cal. No. 26202
 Regents Action Date: January 14, 2014
 Action: Found guilty of professional misconduct; Penalty: Revocation.
 Summary: Licensee was found guilty of practicing his profession with 
negligence, as well as with incompetence, on more than one occasion, and of 
unprofessional conduct.
 

 The ruling can can be found at the following link: 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw

 

 And that's that.
 

 To life,
 ~Carol


Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Heck TM does not even have a charismatic leader or leadership anymore. WE got 
administrators. It is kind of hard to have a cult without a charismatic leader 
that you could point to. That is defining of cults. Please see FFL post# 370565 
. No, people become meditators and then freely participating in this 
organization because they like meditation and appreciate all the good that the 
transcendent meditative state provides everyone individually and collectively. 
Our meditating organization is here to facilitate that good. That facilitating 
in our case now is the work of good in progress by our new incorporation as 
meditators. Our corporation as it always has been is certainly about affecting 
a positive revolutionary radical change in all of society for everybody. Most 
of us in TM are pretty clear about that. Are you with us or against us in this? 
 -U.S. Buck in the Dome
 

 MJ, See Weber's comments on 'cult' in Melton's Intro to The Postcharismatic 
Fate of New Religious Movements:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565
 


 MJ, Your thesis around TM being a 'cult' has a problem in that we in TM no 
longer have a charismatic leader of TM. We are either administrators or 
meditators in TM and anyone in TM is enfranchised by a little of both under 
Maharishi's Absolute Theories of Management and Government. You clearly are 
full of your own personal BS and have your ax grinding about something.  I 
feels a sorrow for thee in thy lack of peace around this.
 -Buck
 

 “Which would you rather experience: living the paradox or understanding it to 
your satisfaction?” Not either position is mutually exclusive, or that there is 
a third possibility of both.
 


 

 MJ writes:
 

You need to read up on what cults actually are before you make such statements. 

 Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more 
than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and 
meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots 
of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny 
looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. 
And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a 
flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or 
maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation 
in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM 
now is not hardly as bad as you portray it.  It is rapidly becoming more modern 
and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time.  And we 
don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle 
deep inside at the top.  If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see 
but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can. -Buck  

 

MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a 
cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots 
wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious 
observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting 
too much sheep dip. 

 Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick 
here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to 
declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 
'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too 
dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific 
spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you 
do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending 
meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental 
Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I 
appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the 
hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck 
in the Dome
 

 mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from 
Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.

 

 The Transcendental Meditative State of
Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS.
Drink: Vedic
Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

  I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so 
they don't support cults.
 
 
 On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM 
 The Transcendental Meditative 

[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jchwelch@... wrote:

 I've previously posted on FFL about John Knapp who (through 2011ish) had been 
around the TM/anti-TM circuit for decades. Folks who were around FFL prior to 
2010ish(?) are most likely familiar with Knapp. 

 

 I'm pretty sure I previously stated on FFL that I would post an update once NY 
state made a ruling regarding Knapp's Social Work license. NY state's ruling 
was made on 1/14/14. NY state made the ruling public sometime in the past week.

 

 Knapp was my former cult-recovery therapist from around July, 2008, until 
August, 2010.
 

 Brief timeline:
 October, 2010: Formal complaint was filed with NY State regarding John M. 
Knapp. (I filed the complaint.)
 December, 2010: NY state opened an official investigation
 November, 2012: NY state held a hearing for Knapp before the licensing board. 
Knapp did not show.
 January, 2014: NY state made its official ruling.
 

 From the NY Office of Professional Discipline site:
 John Knapp, Bloomington, IN

 Profession: Licensed Master Social Worker; Lic. No. 071643; Cal. No. 26202
 Regents Action Date: January 14, 2014
 Action: Found guilty of professional misconduct; Penalty: Revocation.
 Summary: Licensee was found guilty of practicing his profession with 
negligence, as well as with incompetence, on more than one occasion, and of 
unprofessional conduct.
 

 The ruling can can be found at the following link: 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw

 

 And that's that.
 

 To life,
 ~Carol
 

 Thanks for the update Carol. You seem to have fought a hard battle and 
emerged. Not really knowing more than the simple outline of this matter I can 
not comment with any authority as to an opinion on whether his revocation is 
positive or not. What I can do is to say that you appear a strong and 
persistent woman who fought for the thing she believed and for that I offer you 
my respect and congratulations on the outcome of the board's review.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
agin

On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 4:14 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Heck TM does not even have a
 charismatic leader or
 leadership anymore.  WE got administrators.  It is kind of
 hard to
 have a cult without a charismatic leader that you could
 point to. 
 That is defining of cults.  Please see FFL post# 370565 . 
 No, people
 become meditators and then freely participating in this
 organization
 because they like meditation and appreciate all the good
 that the
 transcendent meditative state provides everyone individually
 and
 collectively.  Our meditating organization is here to
 facilitate that
 good.  That facilitating in our case now is the work of good
 in
 progress by our new incorporation as meditators.  Our
 corporation as
 it always has been is certainly about affecting a positive
 revolutionary radical change in all of society for
 everybody.  Most
 of us in TM are pretty clear about that.  Are you with us or
 against
 us in this? 
 
 -U.S. Buck in the Dome
 MJ, See
 Weber's comments on 'cult' in Melton's Intro
 to The
 Postcharismatic Fate of New Religious 
Movements:http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565
 
 MJ, Your thesis around TM being a
 'cult' has a problem in
 that we in TM no longer have a charismatic leader of TM.  We
 are
 either administrators or meditators in TM and anyone in TM
 is
 enfranchised by a little of both under Maharishi's
 Absolute Theories
 of Management and Government.  You clearly are full of your
 own
 personal BS and have your ax grinding about something.
  I feels a sorrow for thee in thy lack of peace around
 this.-Buck
 “Which would you
 rather
 experience: living the paradox or understanding it to your
 satisfaction?”  Not either position is mutually exclusive,
 or that
 there is a third possibility of both.
 
 MJ
 writes:
 You need to read up on what cults actually are
 before you make such statements.
 Nope, not a
 cult.  TM now as a corporation obviously
 is not a cult any more than any modern productive working
 corporation
 of employees is a 'cult'.  TM and meditators as a
 community now are
 just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline
 company.
 And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking
 hats and
 coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner.
  And
 those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who
 organize
 a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight
 attendants or
 load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment.  TM is
 as very
 modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as
 Maharishi himself
 particularly set that in motion now.  TM now is not hardly
 as bad as you
 portray it.  It is rapidly becoming more modern and
 scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the
 time.  And we don't hardly see the gold hats and
 robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at
 the top.  If there is a cult it is possibly at that
 level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps
 and robes when they can.-Buck  
 MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS
 different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I
 started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing
 robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu
 religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult,
 then you have been snorting too much sheep
 dip.
 Shame on you
 MHJ.  Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you
 Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ.   This TM now is not
 a “cult”
 no more as much as you might like to declare that it is.  As
 we used
 to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a
 'cult' like
 christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way
 too
 dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and
 the evident
 scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is
 something malevolent in what you do to something that is so
 good in
 itself as what is simply transcending meditation.   In this
 new
 corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation
 is plainly
 now different.  Your commentary is clearly out of date.  I
 appreciate
 that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to
 the
 hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you
 are out of
 it.-Buck in the Dome
 mjackson74 writes: I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults.
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State
 of
 Consciousness is Found Within Restful
 ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to
 Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  I
 shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from
 Whole Goods so 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Married Kama Sutra: The World's Least Erotic Sex Manual

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater
The illustrations of this little book are priceless.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
Coffee helps reduce kapha as does tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look like 
Michael Moore if he didn't drink coffee and smoke.


On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote:


Is this a joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in the domes now?


If anything is bound to interfere with those subtle level of awareness 
it's coffee. That's what I was taught anyway. Obviously it's not an 
official TM product but then David Lynch drinks it like it's going out 
of fashion. And smokes like a chimney too! I look forward to the vedic 
coffin nails advert...



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within 
Restful ALERTNESS.


Drink:
 Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

http://vediccoffee.com/








[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
I've followed this fairly closely. Carol was not the only victim. It's 
excellent news that Knapp will no longer be able to use that license in a 
professional capacity to inflict harm on others who might seek therapy with 
him. Congratulations, Carol, well done. 

 I've previously posted on FFL about John Knapp who (through 2011ish) had been 
around the TM/anti-TM circuit for decades. Folks who were around FFL prior to 
2010ish(?) are most likely familiar with Knapp.
 

 I'm pretty sure I previously stated on FFL that I would post an update once NY 
state made a ruling regarding Knapp's Social Work license. NY state's ruling 
was made on 1/14/14. NY state made the ruling public sometime in the past week.
 

 Knapp was my former cult-recovery therapist from around July, 2008, until 
August, 2010.
 

 Brief timeline:October, 2010: Formal complaint was filed with NY State 
regarding John M. Knapp. (I filed the complaint.)
 December, 2010: NY state opened an official investigation
 November, 2012: NY state held a hearing for Knapp before the licensing board. 
Knapp did not show.
 January, 2014: NY state made its official ruling.
 From the NY Office of Professional Discipline site:
 John Knapp, Bloomington, IN

 Profession: Licensed Master Social Worker; Lic. No. 071643; Cal. No. 26202
 Regents Action Date: January 14, 2014
 Action: Found guilty of professional misconduct; Penalty: Revocation.
 Summary: Licensee was found guilty of practicing his profession with 
negligence, as well as with incompetence, on more than one occasion, and of 
unprofessional conduct.
 

 The ruling can can be found at the following link: 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw

 

 And that's that.
 

 To life,
 ~Carol
 

 Thanks for the update Carol. You seem to have fought a hard battle and 
emerged. Not really knowing more than the simple outline of this matter I can 
not comment with any authority as to an opinion on whether his revocation is 
positive or not. What I can do is to say that you appear a strong and 
persistent woman who fought for the thing she believed and for that I offer you 
my respect and congratulations on the outcome of the board's review.







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread salyavin808

 I can think of less dangerous ways of reducing kapha than smoking. I suppose 
he can always take some amrit kalash if he gets cancer, that's bound to work...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

 Coffee helps reduce kapha as does tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look like 
Michael Moore if he didn't drink coffee and smoke.
 
 On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   Is this a joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in the domes now?
 

 If anything is bound to interfere with those subtle level of awareness it's 
coffee. That's what I was taught anyway. Obviously it's not an official TM 
product but then David Lynch drinks it like it's going out of fashion. And 
smokes like a chimney too! I look forward to the vedic coffin nails advert...
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful 
ALERTNESS. 

 Drink:
  Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

 

 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 

 
 

  





 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/14/2014 10:32 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
The button pushers are actually the ones wasting their own time while 
the others simply marvel at the stupidity of it.


Button pushers often state extreme positions to make his or her actual 
beliefs seem moderate. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/14/2014 10:47 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
he is a troll, and the article's description of the troll personality 
fits him perfectly.


Calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives 
that are impossible to determine. The term troll is highly subjective, 
and some posts will look like trolling to some while seeming like 
meaningful contributions to others. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Trolling is the same as button-pushing. Barry himself calls what he does 
pushing buttons. (Third or fourth time I've pointed this out to you.) 

  he is a troll, and the article's description of the troll personality fits 
him perfectly.
 

 Calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives that are 
impossible to determine. The term troll is highly subjective, and some posts 
will look like trolling to some while seeming like meaningful contributions to 
others. Go figure. 


[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread jchwelch
Thanks for the kind words Anne. Of course, there is a lot that happened between 
the lines of the brief outline. IMO (and others who were involved), Knapp's 
revocation is a good thing; he has harmed more than one person, including at 
least three ex-clients. 
 From Knapp's online public displays, he has claimed he lost his license over 
at least a year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't the case 
because the ruling wasn't made until January, 2014, and there was never a 
lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp seems to wear a lost license (or as he publicly 
describes himself as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a rebel, or 
something. At least now, there is a public official ruling which will make it 
difficult for him to get licensed again if he ever would have an interest in 
doing so.
 Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are well. :-)



[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread j_alexander_stanley
Interesting... when you posted earlier this morning, I Googled around to 
refresh my memory, and the one thing that really stood out for me was the 
defrocked therapist self-description he uses to promote himself. I thought it 
very odd that a person would accentuate the consequences of his malevolence as 
some kind of badge of honor. Strange guy, that one.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the kind words Anne. Of course, there is a lot that happened 
between the lines of the brief outline. IMO (and others who were involved), 
Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has harmed more than one person, 
including at least three ex-clients. 
 From Knapp's online public displays, he has claimed he lost his license over 
at least a year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't the case 
because the ruling wasn't made until January, 2014, and there was never a 
lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp seems to wear a lost license (or as he publicly 
describes himself as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a rebel, or 
something. At least now, there is a public official ruling which will make it 
difficult for him to get licensed again if he ever would have an interest in 
doing so.
 Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are well. :-)





[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread jchwelch
Thanks Judy.  When I received the news of the outcome, I didn't feel good. 
Quite the opposite. After the news sank in, I realized I felt like I just 
wanted to take a shower and wash it all off. I think that's probably a 'normal' 
reaction in such circumstances. I used music that day for the shower. 
http://tossandripple.blogspot.com/2014/01/artapply-as-needed-cannot-overdose.html;
 One of Knapp's former victims responded..And now we heal. It was a type of 
psychological/emotional rape that Knapp exacted upon more than one person. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 I've followed this fairly closely. Carol was not the only victim. It's 
excellent news that Knapp will no longer be able to use that license in a 
professional capacity to inflict harm on others who might seek therapy with 
him. Congratulations, Carol, well done. 

 I've previously posted on FFL about John Knapp who (through 2011ish) had been 
around the TM/anti-TM circuit for decades. Folks who were around FFL prior to 
2010ish(?) are most likely familiar with Knapp.
 

 I'm pretty sure I previously stated on FFL that I would post an update once NY 
state made a ruling regarding Knapp's Social Work license. NY state's ruling 
was made on 1/14/14. NY state made the ruling public sometime in the past week.
 

 Knapp was my former cult-recovery therapist from around July, 2008, until 
August, 2010.
 

 Brief timeline:October, 2010: Formal complaint was filed with NY State 
regarding John M. Knapp. (I filed the complaint.)
 December, 2010: NY state opened an official investigation
 November, 2012: NY state held a hearing for Knapp before the licensing board. 
Knapp did not show.
 January, 2014: NY state made its official ruling.
 From the NY Office of Professional Discipline site:
 John Knapp, Bloomington, IN

 Profession: Licensed Master Social Worker; Lic. No. 071643; Cal. No. 26202
 Regents Action Date: January 14, 2014
 Action: Found guilty of professional misconduct; Penalty: Revocation.
 Summary: Licensee was found guilty of practicing his profession with 
negligence, as well as with incompetence, on more than one occasion, and of 
unprofessional conduct.
 

 The ruling can can be found at the following link: 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw

 

 And that's that.
 

 To life,
 ~Carol
 

 Thanks for the update Carol. You seem to have fought a hard battle and 
emerged. Not really knowing more than the simple outline of this matter I can 
not comment with any authority as to an opinion on whether his revocation is 
positive or not. What I can do is to say that you appear a strong and 
persistent woman who fought for the thing she believed and for that I offer you 
my respect and congratulations on the outcome of the board's review.










[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Well, I hope you're feeling better now. You got guts, kid. You did the right 
thing. 

  Thanks Judy.  When I received the news of the outcome, I didn't feel 
good. Quite the opposite. After the news sank in, I realized I felt like I 
just wanted to take a shower and wash it all off. I think that's probably a 
'normal' reaction in such circumstances. I used music that day for the shower. 
http://tossandripple.blogspot.com/2014/01/artapply-as-needed-cannot-overdose.html;
 One of Knapp's former victims responded..And now we heal. It was a type of 
psychological/emotional rape that Knapp exacted upon more than one person. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 I've followed this fairly closely. Carol was not the only victim. It's 
excellent news that Knapp will no longer be able to use that license in a 
professional capacity to inflict harm on others who might seek therapy with 
him. Congratulations, Carol, well done. 

 I've previously posted on FFL about John Knapp who (through 2011ish) had been 
around the TM/anti-TM circuit for decades. Folks who were around FFL prior to 
2010ish(?) are most likely familiar with Knapp.
 

 I'm pretty sure I previously stated on FFL that I would post an update once NY 
state made a ruling regarding Knapp's Social Work license. NY state's ruling 
was made on 1/14/14. NY state made the ruling public sometime in the past week.
 

 Knapp was my former cult-recovery therapist from around July, 2008, until 
August, 2010.
 

 Brief timeline:October, 2010: Formal complaint was filed with NY State 
regarding John M. Knapp. (I filed the complaint.)
 December, 2010: NY state opened an official investigation
 November, 2012: NY state held a hearing for Knapp before the licensing board. 
Knapp did not show.
 January, 2014: NY state made its official ruling.
 From the NY Office of Professional Discipline site:
 John Knapp, Bloomington, IN

 Profession: Licensed Master Social Worker; Lic. No. 071643; Cal. No. 26202
 Regents Action Date: January 14, 2014
 Action: Found guilty of professional misconduct; Penalty: Revocation.
 Summary: Licensee was found guilty of practicing his profession with 
negligence, as well as with incompetence, on more than one occasion, and of 
unprofessional conduct.
 

 The ruling can can be found at the following link: 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw

 

 And that's that.
 

 To life,
 ~Carol
 

 Thanks for the update Carol. You seem to have fought a hard battle and 
emerged. Not really knowing more than the simple outline of this matter I can 
not comment with any authority as to an opinion on whether his revocation is 
positive or not. What I can do is to say that you appear a strong and 
persistent woman who fought for the thing she believed and for that I offer you 
my respect and congratulations on the outcome of the board's review.













Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/15/2014 7:02 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of 
a small circle deep inside at the top.


Most people in Fairfield and in the TMO probably don't see very many of 
the MUM administrators, and probably only see and interact with a few 
instructors - if someone is enrolled in a course. So, I'd say that 
someone working on staff in the cafeteria a decade ago probably wouldn't 
be knowing very much about the coming-and-goings of anybody wearing a 
gold hat and a robe around Fairfield. Apparently Michael H. Jackson is 
an informant - a  former TM junkie who feels learning TM was one of the 
biggest mistakes he ever made. Go figure.


'Maharishi Marketing Time Line'
Posted by Laurie at 2/09/2014 12:40:00 PM
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/


[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
I don't know that he was inherently malevolent; he was (and apparently still 
is) a sicko, living in his own private reality. The malevolent behavior was a 
survival move. Doesn't make the harm he caused any the less, though. 
  Interesting... when you posted earlier this morning, I Googled around to 
refresh my memory, and the one thing that really stood out for me was the 
defrocked therapist self-description he uses to promote himself. I thought it 
very odd that a person would accentuate the consequences of his malevolence as 
some kind of badge of honor. Strange guy, that one. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jchwelch@... wrote:

 Thanks for the kind words Anne. Of course, there is a lot that happened 
between the lines of the brief outline. IMO (and others who were involved), 
Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has harmed more than one person, 
including at least three ex-clients. 
 From Knapp's online public displays, he has claimed he lost his license over 
at least a year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't the case 
because the ruling wasn't made until January, 2014, and there was never a 
lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp seems to wear a lost license (or as he publicly 
describes himself as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a rebel, or 
something. At least now, there is a public official ruling which will make it 
difficult for him to get licensed again if he ever would have an interest in 
doing so.
 Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are well. :-)








Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles

2014-02-15 Thread Pundit Sir
Don't mess with old men, they didn't get old by being stupid. - Will
Rogers


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone can fail many times, but you aren't a failure until you begin to
 blame somebody else. - John Burroughs


 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Doing nothing is hard to do - you never know when you're finished. -
 Leslie Nielsen


 On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse. - Will
 Rogers


 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Never miss a good chance to shut up. - Will Rogers


 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:






 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still alive?
 (-:

 Long dead, Share:
 On August 15, 1935, Rogers was on a flight to Asia with the famous
 pilot Wiley Post when the craft developed engine troubles and crashed near
 Point Barrow, Alaska http://www.history.com/topics/alaska. The
 crash killed both men. Rogers was only 55.



  On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@...
 wrote:

 Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. -
 Will Rogers


 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:


 Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-:

 PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every
 atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure!




  On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@...
 wrote:

 Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
 - Will Rogers


 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote:

 Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is
 moving. - Will Rogers


 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, authfriend@... wrote:


 So what was the good catch you said I made, Share? I don't believe
 you've responded to that question.

  Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you... 








  








Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 8:38 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Again, dingbat, pushing buttons is the term Barry uses to 
 characterize what he does. Is he slandering himself, do you think?
 
Barry never equated someone being a troll with someone posting a 
message and pushing someone's buttons- that's a fib you made up, 
dingbat. A person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses 
is a troll - like the Slate report you just posted. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Test: Can you spot the HYPOCRISY in this Barry Wright post?

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/15/2014 9:02 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

If any troll deserves to be troll-baited once in awhile, it's Barry.


You are incorrect - Barry is a button pusher, not a troll - that's 
the part you made up. Button pushers are sometimes caricatured as 
socially inept. This is often due to the fundamental attribution error, 
as it is impossible to know the real traits of an individual solely from 
their online discourse. Indeed, since intentional button pushing posters 
are alleged to knowingly flout social boundaries, it is difficult to 
typecast them as socially inept since they have arguably proven adept at 
their goal which is to push your buttons. Case in point.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread salyavin808
You don't need any leader to be a cult. All you need is a belief system that 
sets you apart from the norm. 

 cult  [kuhlt] 
 noun 1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to 
its rites and ceremonies.

 2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as 
manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness 
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/physical+fitness cult.

 3. the object http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/object of such devotion.

 4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, 
ideal, etc.
 

 I think the belief in unified fields of consciousness being affected by your 
meditation for the benefit of all mankind sets you out as a cult, and that's 
before you get to the secret language and belief in Marshy's ultimate knowledge 
of life through vedic literature.
 

 We all got duped into believing it, it's how cults work, the separation from 
normal society, the peer group that already believes. These things work to 
produce fellow believers, it's only amtter of time before new meditator quits 
or gets to learn the lingo and becomes one of us. At our academy, and I doubt 
US ones were any different, we had special weekends for new meditators where 
the food was more normal than typical movement muck and the language and tapes 
were for beginners, to get them into it gently without scaring them off.
 

 I'm not saying that Marshy and the TMO sat there with a copy of How to start 
a cult but all the methods of indoctrination are understood by sociologists 
and they are all present.
 The first ploy is to always give knowledge lectures after meditating when 
the mind is at its most relaxed and pliable. You soak it up like a sponge, they 
even tell you not to think about it but to let it sink in unconsciously. Hmm, 
maybe they do have a copy of How to start a cult...
 

 But the TMO can't be classed as a destructive cult, they never make any 
attempt to split up families or harass former members. But it does take quite 
some time to deprogramme yourself from all the absurd and incredible beliefs 
that you pick up without realising when your defences are down.






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
chavan prash under a different name at at premium price

On Sat, 2/15/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:20 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 I can think of less
 dangerous ways of reducing kapha than smoking. I suppose he
 can always take some amrit kalash if he gets cancer,
 that's bound to work...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
 wrote:
 
 Coffee
 helps reduce kapha as does
 tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look like Michael Moore if
 he didn't
 drink coffee and smoke.
 
 
On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM,
 salyavin808 wrote:
 
 
  Is this a
 joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in
 the domes now?
 If anything is bound to interfere with those
 subtle
 level of awareness it's coffee. That's what I was
 taught
 anyway. Obviously it's not an official TM product but
 then
 David Lynch drinks it like it's going out of fashion.
 And
 smokes like a chimney too! I look forward to the vedic
 coffin nails advert...
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 dhamiltony2k5@...
 wrote:
 
 
 The
 Transcendental
 Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within
 Restful ALERTNESS.
 Drink: Vedic
 Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!
 
 http://vediccoffee.com/
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
not surprising that he would eventually follow in his form master's foot steps 
- there are others who have like Bob Fickes

On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 therapist self-description he uses to promote himself.
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for the
 kind words Anne. Of
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least a
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp seems
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 well. :-)
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
particularly one that claims to have ultimate and extra special knowledge

On Sat, 2/15/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 6:26 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   You don't need any leader to be a cult. All you
 need is a belief system that sets you apart from the
 norm.
 cult  [kuhlt] noun1.a particular system of religious worship, especially with 
reference to its rites and ceremonies.2.an instance of great veneration of a 
person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the 
physical
 fitness cult.3.the object of such devotion.4.a group or sect bound together by 
veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
 I think the belief in unified
 fields of consciousness being affected by your meditation
 for the benefit of all mankind sets you out as a cult, and
 that's before you get to the secret language and belief
 in Marshy's ultimate knowledge of life through vedic
 literature.
 We all got duped into believing it,
 it's how cults work, the separation from normal society,
 the peer group that already believes. These things work to
 produce fellow believers, it's only amtter of time
 before new meditator quits or gets to learn the lingo and
 becomes one of us. At our academy, and I doubt
 US ones were any different, we had special weekends for new
 meditators where the food was more normal than typical
 movement muck and the language and tapes were for beginners,
 to get them into it gently without scaring them
 off.
 I'm not
 saying that Marshy and the TMO sat there with a copy of
 How to start a cult but all the methods of
 indoctrination are understood by sociologists and they are
 all present.The first ploy
 is to always give knowledge lectures after
 meditating when the mind is at its most relaxed and pliable.
 You soak it up like a sponge, they even tell you not to
 think about it but to let it sink in unconsciously. Hmm,
 maybe they do have a copy of How to start a
 cult...
 But the TMO
 can't be classed as a destructive cult, they never make
 any attempt to split up families or harass former members.
 But it does take quite some time to deprogramme yourself
 from all the absurd and incredible beliefs that you pick up
 without realising when your defences are
 down.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
What Barry does and calls pushing buttons not only fits your own definition 
of trolling, he himself describes it as an attempt to elicit angry responses. 
And it's been very well documented that the posts are duplicitous. 

 Nor, of course, is hhe Slate report duplicitous in any sense.
 

  Again, dingbat, pushing buttons is the term Barry uses to characterize 
  what he does. Is he slandering himself, do you think?
 

 Barry never equated someone being a troll with someone posting a 
 message and pushing someone's buttons- that's a fib you made up, 
 dingbat. A person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses 
 is a troll - like the Slate report you just posted. Go figure. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Test: Can you spot the HYPOCRISY in this Barry Wright post?

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Wrongo. Barry is a troll. 

  If any troll deserves to be troll-baited once in awhile, it's Barry.
 

 You are incorrect - Barry is a button pusher, not a troll - that's the 
part you made up. 
 

 Button pushers are sometimes caricatured as socially inept. This is often due 
to the fundamental attribution error, as it is impossible to know the real 
traits of an individual solely from their online discourse. Indeed, since 
intentional button pushing posters are alleged to knowingly flout social 
boundaries, it is difficult to typecast them as socially inept since they have 
arguably proven adept at their goal which is to push your buttons. Case in 
point.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own twisted footsteps. 

  not surprising that he would eventually follow in his form master's foot 
steps - there are others who have like Bob Fickes  

 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... 
j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 therapist self-description he uses to promote himself.
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 jchwelch@... mailto:jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 Thanks for the
 kind words Anne. Of
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least a
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp seems
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 well. :-) 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

2014-02-15 Thread Pundit Sir
Yesterday we went to this place:

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The San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo
http://www.sarodeo.com/

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Heart - The San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo
Friday, February 14th 2014
http://www.sarodeo.com/entertainers/prca-rodeo-w-heart

Notes: The San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo has been around since 1950.
But, the whole town is based on cattle trails. One location called Five
Points is where a drunk cowboy once fell off his horse. Spaniards founded
the San Antonio Missions - apparently the very first rodeo may have been
when Jose left the gate to the stable open by mistake, causing the very
first round up (rodeo). Go figure.

[image: Inline image 3]



On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 We also picked up some wine at this place.

 [image: Inline image 1]


 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:


 We went by this place a few days ago to get some beer.

 [image: Inline image 1]


 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 We went to this place yesterday:

 [image: Inline image 1]


 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Today we went to this place:

 [image: Inline image 1]

 They have a good cheese selection:

 [image: Inline image 2]

 [image: Inline image 3]


 On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:






 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 We went to this place yesterday - they have some boots for sale.

 That's a whole lotta shit stompers in one place. I prefer shopping in
 smaller, boutique-y stores though. I always have people coming into my
 strictly English tack store asking where to buy cowboy boots because
 Victoria doesn't have anywhere that sells them. Next time I'll send them 
 to
 Texas.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Cavender's Boot City

 [image: Inline image 2]

 Tony Lama, Justin, Lucchese, Laredo


 On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Richard Williams punditster@...wrote:

 Today, we went to this place:

 [image: Inline image 2]


 On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Richard Williams punditster@...wrote:





 * I read through this post, bemused by it, but I didn't notice 
 until I'd gotten almost all the way to the end of it that part  of my 
 mind
 was still saying, What's a car?  :-)*
 You probably don't even need a car over there - in fact, it would be a
 problem. Over, here a car is just another tool for most people. Without
 one, I'd be dead in the water. Some people who are rich probably drive 
 cars
 just for fun and pleasure, like my neighbor, who doesn't drive these cars
 much - there just for shows.


 I inherited the Eldorado from Mom. She bought it new off the show room
 floor and it's been garaged it's whole life. She still had a driver's
 license at age 86, but hadn't driven in about ten years. So, one day I 
 just
 took it - I'm using it for highway driving. I put some new tires on it and
 a new disc brakes.


 You can't get anything these days for a car like that - maybe $1500.
 The AC still works and it has cruise control. Also, it has a kick-ass 
 Delco
 Bose sound system with CD player inside. Sweet!


 [image: Inline image 1]



 On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:


   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  noozguru et al, small country, flat land. And no snow or ice on the
 roads and bike paths!


 *Ahem. Only pussies leave their bikes at home when it snows. *
 * 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ*

  On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:11 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 
  Small country, flat land.
 
  On 12/29/2013 07:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Uh oh. I think I've achieved one of those milestones along the path
 to You know you're in danger of becoming Dutch when... consciousness.
  
  I read through this post, bemused by it, but I
  didn't notice until I'd gotten almost all the way to
  the end of it that part of my mind was still saying,
  What's a car?  :-)
  
  
 http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/04/09/learning-from-the-netherlands-about-bikes/

  
 




  








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now Playing

2014-02-15 Thread Pundit Sir
[image: Inline image 1]

Alan Jackson, Clint Black, George Strait, Jimmy Buffett, Kenny Chesney, and
Toby Keith

Margaritaville - Alan Jackson - Jimmy Buffet
http://youtu.be/LascX14s_EY


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Willie Nelson

 On the Road Again
 http://youtu.be/1TD_pSeNelU

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Vintage JVC PL-10 Direct Drive 1978




 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Best known for her 1977 country-pop crossover hit song, Don't It Make
 My Brown Eyes Blue, she accumulated 20 number one country hits during the
 1970s and 1980s (18 on Billboard and 2 on Cashbox) with six albums
 certified Gold by the RIAA.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Gayle

 Too Many Lovers (Not enough love)
 http://youtu.be/W0EQlXG2q3s

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Crystal Gayle's Greatest Hits (1983)
 http://youtu.be/30b-UKwYCRE


 On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 The dB's - Wake up,that time is gone.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 That Time Is Gone - Peter Holsapple, vocals and guitar
 http://youtu.be/f9CwLD1Yrvo

 Recorded live in 2012 in Austin, Texas at Threadgill's during the Music
 Fog Marathon. When Rita was living in San Diego the guitarist in this
 video, Peter Holsapple, was her boyfriends roommate. It was great meeting
 up with him again in Austin. An amazing reunion from the old days in
 California!

 MusicFog review:
 http://musicfog.com/home/2012/6/12/the-dbs-that-time-is-gone.html


 On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Now playing: Get ready for a tribal beat stomp dance down at the Techno
 Club with DJ Pseudo Buddha. Work it!

 [image: Inline image 1]

 How Ya Doin? Factory Mix - Beat Your Meat (Move Your Body 2) 1994
 http://youtu.be/edSWATUnxwc


 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 One Dove

 [image: Inline image 1]

 One Dove - White Love (Psychic Masterbation) - from Platinum on Black
 Vol 1
 http://youtu.be/pqIsWexYD74

 White Love - One Dove - Video
 http://youtu.be/5Z_hcAQz1Rw

 One Dove was a Scottish alternative dance music group active in the
 early 1990s, consisting of Dot Allison, Ian Carmichael and Jim McKinven.

 One Dove:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Dove


 On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 The Jim Cullum Jazz Band

 [image: Inline image 1]

 We saw this band a few years ago and we listen to them on PRI every
 week. So, we decided to see them again soon. This is going to be a very
 busy time for music lovers around here what with the San Antonio Stock 
 Show
 and Rodeo followed by South by Southwest (SxSW) the music and film 
 festival
 in Austin (Rodriquez will probably be there and Linklater too). In this
 video the Jim Cullum Jazz Band is joined by David Jellema when they
 performed at the historic Pearl Brewery in San Antonio Texas, for the
 public radio series Riverwalk Jazz in October 2009:

 Clarinet Marmalade
 http://youtu.be/z4RWkTrU2d8

 Jim Cullum Jazz Band
 Boardwalk Bistro
 7:30pm -- 10:30pm
 Friday February 7, 2014
 4011 Broadway, San Antonio

 http://riverwalkjazz.org/

 http://www.pri.org/programs/riverwalk-jazz

 The Jim Cullum Jazz Band is an acoustic seven-piece traditional jazz
 ensemble led by cornetist Jim Cullum, Jr.. Since 1989, the band has been
 featured nationally on their own weekly public radio series Riverwalk 
 Jazz.
 The band performs live Tuesday through Saturday at the Landing Jazz Club 
 on
 the Riverwalk in San Antonio, Texas.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cullum_Jazz_Band


 On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 The dB's

 [image: Inline image 1]

 That Time Is Gone - Peter Holsapple, vocals and guitar
 http://youtu.be/f9CwLD1Yrvo

 Recorded live in 2012 in Austin, Texas at Threadgill's during the
 Music Fog Marathon. When Rita was living in San Diego the guitarist in 
 this
 video, Peter Holsapple, was her boyfriends roommate. It was great 
 meeting
 up with him again in Austin. An amazing reunion from the old days in
 California!

 MusicFog review:
 http://musicfog.com/home/2012/6/12/the-dbs-that-time-is-gone.html


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Orianthi

 [image: Inline image 3]

 Orienthe with Carls Santana

  Orianthi Panagaris, better known by her mononym Orianthi, is an
 Australian musician, singer-songwriter and guitarist. Orianthi was 
 named
 one of the 12 Greatest Female Electric Guitarists by Elle magazine.[3] 
 She
 also won the award as Breakthrough Guitarist of the Year 2010 by 
 Guitar
 International magazine.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orianthi

 Voodoo Child
 http://youtu.be/mK6tcgsKgps

 According to You
 http://youtu.be/Pu1aQvm5MrU

 Highly Strung - with Steve Vai - Video
 http://youtu.be/G7b-_YcACuQ

 Heaven In This Hell - Video
 http://youtu.be/2kMXxDkqD6I

 [image: Inline image 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women.

On Sat, 2/15/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 twisted footsteps.
  not
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
 Fickes 
 
  On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 himself.
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 a
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 seems
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 
 well. :-) 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om, it is better to drink a cup of coffee than fall asleep in meditation.
 -Buck
 
 I can think of less dangerous ways of reducing kapha than smoking. I suppose 
he can always take some amrit kalash if he gets cancer, that's bound to work...
 
noozguru writes:
 Coffee helps reduce kapha as does tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look like 
Michael Moore if he didn't drink coffee and smoke.
 
 On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   Is this a joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in the domes now?
 

 If anything is bound to interfere with those subtle level of awareness it's 
coffee. That's what I was taught anyway. Obviously it's not an official TM 
product but then David Lynch drinks it like it's going out of fashion. And 
smokes like a chimney too! I look forward to the vedic coffin nails advert...
 
U.S.Buck Writes:
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful 
ALERTNESS. 

 Drink:
  Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

 

 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 

 
 

  





 






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
Do they witness the sleep?  If so they are going deeper with delta 
rather than experiencing just alpha or theta brain waves.


On 02/15/2014 12:04 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Om, it is better to drink a cup of coffee than fall asleep in 
meditation.*


*-Buck*


I can think of less dangerous ways of reducing kapha than smoking. I 
suppose he can always take some amrit kalash if he gets cancer, that's 
bound to work...



noozguru writes:
Coffee helps reduce kapha as does tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look
like Michael Moore if he didn't drink coffee and smoke.

On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote:


Is this a joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in the
domes now?


If anything is bound to interfere with those subtle level of
awareness it's coffee. That's what I was taught anyway. Obviously
it's not an official TM product but then David Lynch drinks it
like it's going out of fashion. And smokes like a chimney too! I
look forward to the vedic coffin nails advert...

U.S.Buck Writes:

The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found
Within Restful ALERTNESS.

Drink:
 Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

http://vediccoffee.com/










Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
Yup, like a mixture of cinnamon, ginger and a dash of cloves will help.  
Also toss in a little cayenne pepper as long as it doesn't aggravate 
pitta.  They're learning more about benefits of coffee though.  You 
drink black tea instead?


Amrit Kalash is also tri-doshic and an anti-oxidant.

On 02/15/2014 09:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote:



I can think of less dangerous ways of reducing kapha than smoking. I 
suppose he can always take some amrit kalash if he gets cancer, that's 
bound to work...


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

Coffee helps reduce kapha as does tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look 
like Michael Moore if he didn't drink coffee and smoke.


On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote:


Is this a joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in the domes now?


If anything is bound to interfere with those subtle level of 
awareness it's coffee. That's what I was taught anyway. Obviously 
it's not an official TM product but then David Lynch drinks it like 
it's going out of fashion. And smokes like a chimney too! I look 
forward to the vedic coffin nails advert...



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... 
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:


The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within 
Restful ALERTNESS.


Drink:
 Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

http://vediccoffee.com/










Re: [FairfieldLife] Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/15/2014 9:33 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Slate's readers are more than hip enough (as are FFLers) to know what 
trolling is.


Applying the term troll is subjective. Some readers may see a message 
as informative and a contribution to a discussion - others may see the 
same message as trolling. The term trolling can be used as a perjorative 
- in which case, your posting the Slate article and directing it at 
Barry's button pushing proclivities, could be construed as trolling 
itself. You trolled us - now you've got us upset! And, you included a 
fib about Barry and his button pushing, which is not the same thing as 
trolling.


Maybe we should review the Troll FAQ:

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet 
by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting 
inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online 
community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either 
accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers 
into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic 
discussion.


http://en.wikipedia.org/Troll/ 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread salyavin808
I used to witness sleep. Really weird experience, not at the time but looking 
back after waking. At the time it's the most natural thing in the world but 
it's impossible to imagine how you can be properly fast asleep but blissfully 
awake and aware. Those were interesting days for me, it really felt like 
progress was happening. 

 Why does it stop, where does it all go?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

 Do they witness the sleep?  If so they are going deeper with delta rather than 
experiencing just alpha or theta brain waves.
 
 On 02/15/2014 12:04 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
   Om, it is better to drink a cup of coffee than fall asleep in meditation.
 -Buck
 
 I can think of less dangerous ways of reducing kapha than smoking. I suppose 
he can always take some amrit kalash if he gets cancer, that's bound to work...
 
 noozguru writes:
 Coffee helps reduce kapha as does tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look like 
Michael Moore if he didn't drink coffee and smoke.
 
 On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   Is this a joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in the domes now?
 

 If anything is bound to interfere with those subtle level of awareness it's 
coffee. That's what I was taught anyway. Obviously it's not an official TM 
product but then David Lynch drinks it like it's going out of fashion. And 
smokes like a chimney too! I look forward to the vedic coffin nails advert...
 
 U.S.Buck Writes:
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful 
ALERTNESS. 

 Drink:
  Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

 

 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
 

 
 

  





 

 



 






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/15/2014 11:16 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*It's excellent news that Knapp will no longer be able to use that 
license in a professional capacity *


We got rid of John Knapp, now all we have to do is get rid of the 
impostor Michael Jackson. Maybe MJ could go over to posting with Mike 
Dougheny and Robin Carlsen at TM-Free. LoL!


Re: [FairfieldLife] Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/15/2014 11:31 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

Trolling is the same as button-pushing.


You are incorrect and you are just trying to push our buttons!

Button Pusher:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button_pusher



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Troll study

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 1:10 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 fits your own definition of trolling, he himself describes it as an 
 attempt to elicit angry responses.
 
Please cite any post where I have trolled this forum. Thank you. If not, 
maybe you should just keep your pie hole shut about the trolling.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Test: Can you spot the HYPOCRISY in this Barry Wright post?

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/15/2014 1:12 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

Wrongo. Barry is a troll.


This is an attempt at attention-seeking: Judy seeks to dominate the 
thread by inciting anger, and effectively hijacking the topic at hand - 
all marks of the troll. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread anartaxius
I knew John Knapp , but not well, and it was before he left the TM movement by 
a number of years, so he was still a 'good little boy' then. My knowledge of 
him therefore does not have relevance to Carol's situation which I am glad 
seems to have been resolved in her favour, though she still has to deal with 
the memories. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

 I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women.
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 twisted footsteps.
  not
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
 Fickes 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 himself.
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 a
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 seems
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 
 well. :-) 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Beatles review from London Times, 1963

2014-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
I'm sure the Beatles were amused with the review.  Whether they 
themselves knew what the reviewer was talking about would be another 
matter.  There is this tendency for record company PR people to cover up 
any formal training.  I do seem to recall that both George and Paul had 
some music lessons. Back in that time period they may have even listened 
a bit to jazz and picked up some tips from teachers and fellow 
musicians.  Going from the tonic to the flatted 6th key works nicely and 
provides a refreshing sounding modulation plus you can just return back 
to the tonic without it being jarring.  Modes were also being played 
with by jazz musicians and rock musicians would sometimes experiment 
with jazz elements to come up with new ideas.


On 02/14/2014 07:32 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Remarkably prescient review for a band that had only just started to 
make waves. Makes a salutary contrast to my many dismissals of new 
bands over the years that later became huge! But even I had my 
moments. I loved this track from Hotlegs the pre-10cc name chosen 
by Godley and Creme. I saw these guys showed promise though everyone 
else said the song was crap . . .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN5m2nppq8Qamp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA





[FairfieldLife] Drinking Vedic Coffee and Discerning 'Cult' from 'Sect'

2014-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
No, most of what you are offering as definition technically is about sects.   
Cults form around charismatic persons. Sects form out of specialness, exception 
or differentiation as in different denominations of protestantism or 
catholicism or denominations or types of meditation. Those are sects. Sects are 
around fragmentation and cults are around persons as charismatics.  For 
instance, If someone really 'charismatic', like earlier defined by Weber, like 
a Robin were to show up in Fairfield, Iowa and take off a bunch of meditators 
as his followers by force and power of personality then we're talking cult, as 
a sect. That is different than the different sects of people out teaching 
meditations and some others out there teaching other things they've learned.
 -Buck in the Dome
 

 Salyavin808 writes: You don't need any leader to be a cult. All you need is a 
belief system that sets you apart from the norm.
 

 

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
OK. I'm not aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp, actually. I 
don't believe that was the problem Carol had with him. As I understand it, hers 
was more a matter of genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind Share 
fantasized from Robin). 

  I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women.  

 On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 twisted footsteps.
  not
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
 Fickes 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 himself.
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 a
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 seems
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 
 well. :-) 




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
I should add: It's kind of sad. From what I read on TM-Free back when Knapp was 
running it, he had a considerable degree of psychological insight and gave some 
good advice to folks struggling with their TM experience. 

  OK. I'm not aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp, 
actually. I don't believe that was the problem Carol had with him. As I 
understand it, hers was more a matter of genuine psychological rape (as opposed 
to the kind Share fantasized from Robin).  

  I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women.  

 On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 twisted footsteps.
  not
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
 Fickes 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 himself.
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 a
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 seems
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 
 well. :-) 







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Judy, based on my own experience and the validation I received from several who 
experienced Robin in person, I am confident of the validity of what I accused 
Robin of.





On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:14 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
OK. I'm not aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp, actually. I 
don't believe that was the problem Carol had with him. As I understand it, hers 
was more a matter of genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind Share 
fantasized from Robin).

 I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. 


On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:

Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
















 









You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
twisted footsteps.
 not
surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
Fickes 

On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
j_alexander_stanley@...
wrote:



Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
Ruling

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM

































 



















Interesting... when you posted earlier this

morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one

thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked

therapist self-description he uses to promote
himself.

I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the

consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of

honor. Strange guy, that one.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

jchwelch@... wrote:



Thanks for the

kind words Anne. Of

course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of

the brief outline.IMO (and others who were

involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has

harmed more than one person, including at least three

ex-clients. From Knapp's online public

displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
a

year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't

the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,

2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
seems

to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself

as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a

rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public

official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get

licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing

so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are

well. :-) 


[FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread anartaxius
As usual this coffee seems to have a premium price. I can get Organic coffee 
10oz for about $7.00 at the local supermarket instead of 8 oz for about $13 for 
'Vedic' coffee so it is more than double the cost, a typical movement 
overcharge. Exactly what do the Vedas say about coffee? I bet nothing at all. 
According to Wikipedia '[t]he earliest credible evidence of either coffee 
drinking or knowledge of the coffee tree appears in the middle of the 15th 
century, in the Sufi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi Muslim monasteries 
around Mocha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mocha,_Yemen in Yemen'. That is long 
after all the Vedic liturature was written. So coffee is not really associated 
with the term 'Vedic' at all. 

 As for coffee interfering with subtle levels of awareness, it sort of depends 
on how 'embodied' one experiences things. When the mind thinks consciousness is 
embodied, then how the body feels is strongly reflected in what you feel. When 
you are not identified with the body so much, coffee does not have that much 
effect on what is thought of as subtle. Having 'subtle awareness' is really a 
conceptual device to help one settle down, to become aware of things that might 
interfere with meditation etc. But when consciousness equals being in 
experience, subtle really does not make much sense since everything has that 
value so the differentiation between gross and subtle is seen as not 
significant. But it can be very important for people learning to meditate and 
for a number of years after that. I tend to drink regular coffee and Irish 
breakfast tea, which is pretty strong. Still caffeine can affect the body, so 
lately I have been tapering down on the stronger stuff in the evening, it just 
depends on whether I want to shift into the sleep state at midnight or 3am.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread anartaxius
Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six chambers 
of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull  the trigger.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Xeno, it was Judy who implied a comparison between Robin and the therapist 
Knapp. Probably she was just being a troll!





On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:48 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six chambers 
of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull  the trigger.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
I'm sure you're confident, Share. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the 
picture. The people you spoke to knew Robin 30+ years ago, when he was quite a 
different person and did a lot of harm, and they had plenty of motivation to 
encourage you to believe he had mistreated you. We didn't see any such thing 
here, not even remotely; if anything, the reverse was the case. I stand by my 
contention that psychological rape was your malignant fantasy (as several 
others here asserted as well). 

  Judy, based on my own experience and the validation I received from several 
who experienced Robin in person, I am confident of the validity of what I 
accused Robin of.  

 
 
 On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:14 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   OK. I'm not aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp, actually. 
I don't believe that was the problem Carol had with him. As I understand it, 
hers was more a matter of genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind 
Share fantasized from Robin).
 

  I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women.  

 On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 twisted footsteps.
  not
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
 Fickes 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 himself.
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 a
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 seems
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 
 well. :-) 



 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
Caffeine will deplete B vitamins so good to take some if you like to 
drink coffee or stimulating teas (even Green tea).  It's not advocated 
for vata types (nor pittas) unless your sub dosha is kapha.


On 02/15/2014 01:42 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:


As usual this coffee seems to have a premium price. I can get Organic 
coffee 10oz for about $7.00 at the local supermarket instead of 8 oz 
for about $13 for 'Vedic' coffee so it is more than double the cost, a 
typical movement overcharge. Exactly what do the Vedas say about 
coffee? I bet nothing at all. According to Wikipedia '[t]he earliest 
credible evidence of either coffee drinking or knowledge of the coffee 
tree appears in the middle of the 15th century, in the Sufi 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi Muslim monasteries around Mocha 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mocha,_Yemen in Yemen'. That is long 
after all the Vedic liturature was written. So coffee is not really 
associated with the term 'Vedic' at all.



As for coffee interfering with subtle levels of awareness, it sort of 
depends on how 'embodied' one experiences things. When the mind thinks 
consciousness is embodied, then how the body feels is strongly 
reflected in what you feel. When you are not identified with the body 
so much, coffee does not have that much effect on what is thought of 
as subtle. Having 'subtle awareness' is really a conceptual device to 
help one settle down, to become aware of things that might interfere 
with meditation etc. But when consciousness equals being in 
experience, subtle really does not make much sense since everything 
has that value so the differentiation between gross and subtle is seen 
as not significant. But it can be very important for people learning 
to meditate and for a number of years after that. I tend to drink 
regular coffee and Irish breakfast tea, which is pretty strong. Still 
caffeine can affect the body, so lately I have been tapering down on 
the stronger stuff in the evening, it just depends on whether I want 
to shift into the sleep state at midnight or 3am.






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, and 
has not the vaguest notion of what kind of therapist Robin might have been 
(now, not 30 years ago). (Ironically, Xeno has convinced himself that he's in a 
position to advance FFLers' spiritual development by, among other things, 
attempting to push their buttons.) 

  Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six 
chambers of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull  the trigger. 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Judy, the people who agreed with you were the ones who usually agree with you. 
Whereas the people from outside FFL who supported me purposefully came onto FFL 
to do so and had zero motivation to do so, other than to validate what I had 
said and thus offer support. I believe Ann remains friends with some of those 
people and I doubt she would do so if they had negative intentions towards 
Robin. As well, there are people on FFL who understood what I meant by my 
accusation and did not find it malign.





On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:53 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
I'm sure you're confident, Share. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the 
picture. The people you spoke to knew Robin 30+ years ago, when he was quite a 
different person and did a lot of harm, and they had plenty of motivation to 
encourage you to believe he had mistreated you. We didn't see any such thing 
here, not even remotely; if anything, the reverse was the case. I stand by my 
contention that psychological rape was your malignant fantasy (as several 
others here asserted as well).

 Judy, based on my own experience and the validation I received from several 
who experienced Robin in person, I am confident of the validity of what I 
accused Robin of. 





On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:14 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:

 
OK. I'm not aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp, actually. I 
don't believe that was the problem Carol had with him. As I understand it, hers 
was more a matter of genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind Share 
fantasized from Robin).

 I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. 


On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:

Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
















 









You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
twisted footsteps.
 not
surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
Fickes 

On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
j_alexander_stanley@...
wrote:



Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
Ruling

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM

































 



















Interesting... when you posted earlier this

morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one

thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked

therapist self-description he uses to promote
himself.

I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the

consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of

honor. Strange guy, that one.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

jchwelch@... wrote:



Thanks for the

kind words Anne. Of

course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of

the brief outline.IMO (and others who were

involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has

harmed more than one person, including at least three

ex-clients. From Knapp's online public

displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
a

year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't

the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,

2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
seems

to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself

as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a

rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public

official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get

licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing

so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are

well. :-) 




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Judy, you are the troll in this situation, for bringing Robin and me into the 
thread about Carol and Knapp. 





On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, and 
has not the vaguest notion of what kind of therapist Robin might have been 
(now, not 30 years ago). (Ironically, Xeno has convinced himself that he's in a 
position to advance FFLers' spiritual development by, among other things, 
attempting to push their buttons.)

 Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six 
chambers of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull  the trigger. 


[FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread doctordumbass
LOL - Good for you! I just read this - I knew JK from the Movement days - 1978 
- He always acted like a big shot, and missed out on all the fun. Sounds like 
he decided to turn into a codependent power-tripping ass-hole, next.Thanks for 
hanging in there.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jchwelch@... wrote:

 Thanks Judy.  When I received the news of the outcome, I didn't feel good. 
Quite the opposite. After the news sank in, I realized I felt like I just 
wanted to take a shower and wash it all off. I think that's probably a 'normal' 
reaction in such circumstances. I used music that day for the shower. 
http://tossandripple.blogspot.com/2014/01/artapply-as-needed-cannot-overdose.html;
 One of Knapp's former victims responded..And now we heal. It was a type of 
psychological/emotional rape that Knapp exacted upon more than one person. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 I've followed this fairly closely. Carol was not the only victim. It's 
excellent news that Knapp will no longer be able to use that license in a 
professional capacity to inflict harm on others who might seek therapy with 
him. Congratulations, Carol, well done. 

 I've previously posted on FFL about John Knapp who (through 2011ish) had been 
around the TM/anti-TM circuit for decades. Folks who were around FFL prior to 
2010ish(?) are most likely familiar with Knapp.
 

 I'm pretty sure I previously stated on FFL that I would post an update once NY 
state made a ruling regarding Knapp's Social Work license. NY state's ruling 
was made on 1/14/14. NY state made the ruling public sometime in the past week.
 

 Knapp was my former cult-recovery therapist from around July, 2008, until 
August, 2010.
 

 Brief timeline:October, 2010: Formal complaint was filed with NY State 
regarding John M. Knapp. (I filed the complaint.)
 December, 2010: NY state opened an official investigation
 November, 2012: NY state held a hearing for Knapp before the licensing board. 
Knapp did not show.
 January, 2014: NY state made its official ruling.
 From the NY Office of Professional Discipline site:
 John Knapp, Bloomington, IN

 Profession: Licensed Master Social Worker; Lic. No. 071643; Cal. No. 26202
 Regents Action Date: January 14, 2014
 Action: Found guilty of professional misconduct; Penalty: Revocation.
 Summary: Licensee was found guilty of practicing his profession with 
negligence, as well as with incompetence, on more than one occasion, and of 
unprofessional conduct.
 

 The ruling can can be found at the following link: 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw 
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd/January2014.htm#csw

 

 And that's that.
 

 To life,
 ~Carol
 

 Thanks for the update Carol. You seem to have fought a hard battle and 
emerged. Not really knowing more than the simple outline of this matter I can 
not comment with any authority as to an opinion on whether his revocation is 
positive or not. What I can do is to say that you appear a strong and 
persistent woman who fought for the thing she believed and for that I offer you 
my respect and congratulations on the outcome of the board's review.












Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Test: Can you spot the HYPOCRISY in this Barry Wright post?

2014-02-15 Thread steve.sundur
Sort of lost my interest in this discussion Judy once I realized, (once again), 
that your unflinching honesty has so many conditions attached. And really, I 
think Barry's observations have you (and Robin) pegged perfectly. I am sorry 
about that and I hope I've met your expectations with my reply.  

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 I can't wait to see the Feeb fall for this one, even though he's perfectly 
well aware (as is Richard) that Barry typecasts himself as a troll, and I'm far 
more sinned against than sinning. If any troll deserves to be troll-baited once 
in awhile, it's Barry. 

 Would not unflinching honesty require a response to what appears to be a 
breach of this assertion, without conditions!!?
 

 To be honest, Steve, this post of Judy's is an example of Trollbaiting - the 
use of other trolls as an excuse for their own misbehavior, and in many cases, 
typecasting another user as a troll regardless of his or her intent.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
The folks here who saw you misuse the term psychological rape for your own 
malign ends might well have thought you invented it and therefore might have 
been suspicious of Carol's account. I wanted to ensure they didn't make that 
mistake. 

  Judy, you are the troll in this situation, for bringing Robin and me into 
the thread about Carol and Knapp.  

 
 
 On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:00 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, 
and has not the vaguest notion of what kind of therapist Robin might have been 
(now, not 30 years ago). (Ironically, Xeno has convinced himself that he's in a 
position to advance FFLers' spiritual development by, among other things, 
attempting to push their buttons.)
 

  Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six 
chambers of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull  the trigger. 

 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Judy, I find the people on FFL to be intelligent and well read and I highly 
doubt that anyone here thought I invented the term. Nor do I think they would 
be suspicious of Carol regardless of what they thought of me. 




On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:20 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
The folks here who saw you misuse the term psychological rape for your own 
malign ends might well have thought you invented it and therefore might have 
been suspicious of Carol's account. I wanted to ensure they didn't make that 
mistake.

 Judy, you are the troll in this situation, for bringing Robin and me into 
the thread about Carol and Knapp. 





On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:00 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:

 
Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, and 
has not the vaguest notion of what kind of therapist Robin might have been 
(now, not 30 years ago). (Ironically, Xeno has convinced himself that he's in a 
position to advance FFLers' spiritual development by, among other things, 
attempting to push their buttons.)

 Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six 
chambers of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull  the trigger. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Oh, yes, right, the old Barry canard: people who express the same views I do 
about something don't think for themselves and just follow my lead in hopes 
that I'll praise them, no matter what I say. That never carried any weight, and 
it hasn't improved with age. 

 Of course those people who came onto FFL (how many were there, exactly? We 
know about Lord Knows and Bill and Brahmi; any others?) had the motivation to 
take revenge on Robin after what he'd done to them 30 years ago.
 

 I'll let Ann respond to your suppositions about her, but I'd be astonished if 
she would break off a friendship because the friend had negative intentions 
toward Robin. She's a bigger person than that.
 

 And yes, there were people here who were sufficiently at odds with today's 
Robin that they would encourage you to do him dirt by accusing him unfairly 
(including Xeno).
 

  Judy, the people who agreed with you were the ones who usually agree with 
you. Whereas the people from outside FFL who supported me purposefully came 
onto FFL to do so and had zero motivation to do so, other than to validate what 
I had said and thus offer support. I believe Ann remains friends with some of 
those people and I doubt she would do so if they had negative intentions 
towards Robin. As well, there are people on FFL who understood what I meant by 
my accusation and did not find it malign. 
 

 
 
 On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:53 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   I'm sure you're confident, Share. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the 
picture. The people you spoke to knew Robin 30+ years ago, when he was quite a 
different person and did a lot of harm, and they had plenty of motivation to 
encourage you to believe he had mistreated you. We didn't see any such thing 
here, not even remotely; if anything, the reverse was the case. I stand by my 
contention that psychological rape was your malignant fantasy (as several 
others here asserted as well).
 

  Judy, based on my own experience and the validation I received from several 
who experienced Robin in person, I am confident of the validity of what I 
accused Robin of.  

 
 
 On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:14 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   OK. I'm not aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp, actually. 
I don't believe that was the problem Carol had with him. As I understand it, 
hers was more a matter of genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind 
Share fantasized from Robin).
 

  I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to 
complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use 
Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women.  

 On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 twisted footsteps.
  not
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob
 Fickes 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 himself.
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 a
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 seems
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Drinking Vedic Coffee and Discerning 'Cult' from 'Sect'

2014-02-15 Thread salyavin808
Potayto, potahto.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
I do on occasion. 

On Sat, 2/15/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 8:54 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
   
   
 On 2/15/2014
 11:16 AM,
   authfri...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
 It's
 excellent news that Knapp will no longer be able to
 use that
 license in a professional capacity 
 
 
 We got rid of John Knapp, now all we have to do is get
 rid of the
 impostor Michael Jackson. Maybe MJ could go over to
 posting with
 Mike Dougheny and Robin Carlsen at TM-Free. LoL!
 
   
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
what do you think Marsh's gals felt when he used 'em - bliss? I know some did. 
at least Judith Borque says she was happy and all that - but all of them???

On Sat, 2/15/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 9:14 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   OK. I'm not
 aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp,
 actually. I don't believe that was the problem Carol had
 with him. As I understand it, hers was more a matter of
 genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind Share
 fantasized from Robin).
  I read
 plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients
 began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself
 and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some
 respects to get his hands on women. 
 
  On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... authfriend@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing
 Board Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 
 twisted footsteps.
 
  not
 
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like
 Bob
 
 Fickes 
 
 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 
 Ruling
 
 
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 
 himself.
 
 
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 
 a
 
 
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 
 seems
 
 
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 
 
 
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 
 
 
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 
 
 
 well. :-) 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
Oh come on! Why are you so negative!?! 

Don't you know that everyone who wants the world to be at peace, with every 
man, woman and child living their dharma must start the day sipping a cup of 
vedic java, after taking their morning spoonful of amrit kalash whilst staring 
at their plastic vedic observatory?? Its for world peace for goodness sakes

On Sat, 2/15/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 9:42 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   As usual this coffee seems to have a premium price.
 I can get Organic coffee 10oz for about $7.00 at the
 local supermarket instead of 8 oz for about $13
 for 'Vedic' coffee so it is more than double the
 cost, a typical movement overcharge. Exactly what do the
 Vedas say about coffee? I bet nothing at all. According to
 Wikipedia '[t]he
 earliest credible evidence of either coffee drinking or
 knowledge of the coffee tree appears in the middle of the
 15th century, in the Sufi Muslim monasteries
 around Mocha in Yemen'. That is
 long after all the Vedic liturature was written. So coffee
 is not really associated with the term 'Vedic' at
 all.
 As for coffee interfering with subtle levels of
 awareness, it sort of depends on how 'embodied' one
 experiences things. When the mind thinks consciousness is
 embodied, then how the body feels is strongly reflected in
 what you feel. When you are not identified with the body so
 much, coffee does not have that much effect on what is
 thought of as subtle. Having 'subtle awareness' is
 really a conceptual device to help one settle down, to
 become aware of things that might interfere with meditation
 etc. But when consciousness equals being in experience,
 subtle really does not make much sense since everything has
 that value so the differentiation between gross and subtle
 is seen as not significant. But it can be very important for
 people learning to meditate and for a number of years after
 that. I tend to drink regular coffee and Irish breakfast
 tea, which is pretty strong. Still caffeine can affect the
 body, so lately I have been tapering down on the stronger
 stuff in the evening, it just depends on whether I want to
 shift into the sleep state at midnight or 3am.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Test: Can you spot the HYPOCRISY in this Barry Wright post?

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Translation: Just as I predicted, he fell for it. No, Stevie-boy, you didn't 
disappoint my expectations. Anyone who thinks Barry's observations have me and 
Robin pegged perfectly is so out of touch with reality, he'd fall for 
anything. 

  Sort of lost my interest in this discussion Judy once I realized, (once 
again), that your unflinching honesty has so many conditions attached. And 
really, I think Barry's observations have you (and Robin) pegged perfectly. I 
am sorry about that and I hope I've met your expectations with my reply.  

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 I can't wait to see the Feeb fall for this one, even though he's perfectly 
well aware (as is Richard) that Barry typecasts himself as a troll, and I'm far 
more sinned against than sinning. If any troll deserves to be troll-baited once 
in awhile, it's Barry. 

 Would not unflinching honesty require a response to what appears to be a 
breach of this assertion, without conditions!!?
 

 To be honest, Steve, this post of Judy's is an example of Trollbaiting - the 
use of other trolls as an excuse for their own misbehavior, and in many cases, 
typecasting another user as a troll regardless of his or her intent.








Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Huh? What are you responding to in my post? I can't make the connection. I 
didn't say anything about how the women Maharishi played around with felt. 

  what do you think Marsh's gals felt when he used 'em - bliss? I know some 
did. at least Judith Borque says she was happy and all that - but all of 
them???  
 On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 9:14 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 OK. I'm not
 aware of any stories of sexual hanky-panky with Knapp,
 actually. I don't believe that was the problem Carol had
 with him. As I understand it, hers was more a matter of
 genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind Share
 fantasized from Robin).
  I read
 plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients
 began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself
 and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some
 respects to get his hands on women. 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... authfriend@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing
 Board Ruling
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own
 
 twisted footsteps.
 
  not
 
 surprising that he would eventually follow in his form
 
 master's foot steps - there are others who have like
 Bob
 
 Fickes 
 
 
 
 On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@...
 
 j_alexander_stanley@...
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board
 
 Ruling
 
 
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 
 
 Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Interesting... when you posted earlier this
 
 
 
 morning, I Googled around to refresh my memory, and the one
 
 
 
 thing that really stood out for me was the defrocked
 
 
 
 therapist self-description he uses to promote
 
 himself.
 
 
 
 I thought it very odd that a person would accentuate the
 
 
 
 consequences of his malevolence as some kind of badge of
 
 
 
 honor. Strange guy, that one.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 
 
 jchwelch@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for the
 
 
 
 kind words Anne. Of
 
 
 
 course, there is a lot that happened between the lines of
 
 
 
 the brief outline.IMO (and others who were
 
 
 
 involved), Knapp's revocation is a good thing; he has
 
 
 
 harmed more than one person, including at least three
 
 
 
 ex-clients. From Knapp's online public
 
 
 
 displays, he has claimed he lost his license over at least
 
 a
 
 
 
 year ago (and that due to a lawsuit), though that isn't
 
 
 
 the case because the ruling wasn't made until January,
 
 
 
 2014, and there was never a lawsuit. Regardless, Knapp
 
 seems
 
 
 
 to wear a lost license (or as he publicly describes himself
 
 
 
 as a defrocked therapist) as a badge of being a
 
 
 
 rebel, or something. At least now, there is a public
 
 
 
 official ruling which will make it difficult for him to get
 
 
 
 licensed again if he ever would have an interest in doing
 
 
 
 so.Thanks again. Hope you and the horses are
 
 
 
 well. :-) 




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 4:43 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 what do you think Marsh's gals felt when he used 'em - bliss?
 
Why would you be wanting to know?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
We disagree that they might have found your accusation so impossibly 
unjustified that they would have become suspicious of anyone who used it. 
Remember, everybody here saw what went on between you and Robin. 

  Judy, I find the people on FFL to be intelligent and well read and I highly 
doubt that anyone here thought I invented the term. Nor do I think they would 
be suspicious of Carol regardless of what they thought of me.  
 
 On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:20 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   The folks here who saw you misuse the term psychological rape for your own 
malign ends might well have thought you invented it and therefore might have 
been suspicious of Carol's account. I wanted to ensure they didn't make that 
mistake.
 

  Judy, you are the troll in this situation, for bringing Robin and me into 
the thread about Carol and Knapp.  

 
 
 On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:00 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, 
and has not the vaguest notion of what kind of therapist Robin might have been 
(now, not 30 years ago). (Ironically, Xeno has convinced himself that he's in a 
position to advance FFLers' spiritual development by, among other things, 
attempting to push their buttons.)
 

  Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six 
chambers of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull  the trigger. 

 















 


 














[FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-15 Thread salyavin808
Yes, it was very important to me for a long time. Especially when I learned the 
sidhis, my body got so sensitive I couldn't walk next to a busy road or use 
glue, but coffee and garlic drove me insane. Glad I got over that little phase, 
life was an exercise in discipline back then, totally pure home cooked food, 
bed at 10pm, asanas twice a day, I was super-sidha and no mistake!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote:

 As usual this coffee seems to have a premium price. I can get Organic coffee 
10oz for about $7.00 at the local supermarket instead of 8 oz for about $13 for 
'Vedic' coffee so it is more than double the cost, a typical movement 
overcharge. Exactly what do the Vedas say about coffee? I bet nothing at all. 
According to Wikipedia '[t]he earliest credible evidence of either coffee 
drinking or knowledge of the coffee tree appears in the middle of the 15th 
century, in the Sufi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi Muslim monasteries 
around Mocha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mocha,_Yemen in Yemen'. That is long 
after all the Vedic liturature was written. So coffee is not really associated 
with the term 'Vedic' at all. 

 As for coffee interfering with subtle levels of awareness, it sort of depends 
on how 'embodied' one experiences things. When the mind thinks consciousness is 
embodied, then how the body feels is strongly reflected in what you feel. When 
you are not identified with the body so much, coffee does not have that much 
effect on what is thought of as subtle. Having 'subtle awareness' is really a 
conceptual device to help one settle down, to become aware of things that might 
interfere with meditation etc. But when consciousness equals being in 
experience, subtle really does not make much sense since everything has that 
value so the differentiation between gross and subtle is seen as not 
significant. But it can be very important for people learning to meditate and 
for a number of years after that. I tend to drink regular coffee and Irish 
breakfast tea, which is pretty strong. Still caffeine can affect the body, so 
lately I have been tapering down on the stronger stuff in the evening, it just 
depends on whether I want to shift into the sleep state at midnight or 3am.




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 2/15/2014 4:47 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
I didn't say anything about how the women Maharishi played around with 
felt.


There sure are a lot of trolls on FFL today. Go figure.

It's a cry for help for sure: A FFL troll disrupting a conversation 
about the trolls that post to TM-Free.  Probably a sure indication of 
some past disturbing situations regarding family, relationships, 
substances, teachers and schools. Go figure.


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