[FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Was an Angel

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

S3, 

 You should watch the video.  He ties it all up to get a better picture and the 
true message.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Re "Adam was allowed to date the animals in the garden before Eve was created":
 

 I think that is more revealing of the rabbi's dirty-minded fantasies than an 
illuminating exegesis of Genesis!
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Believe it or not, Rabbi Mordicai Kraft said this is true and is supported by 
the Torah.  He also said that Adam was allowed to date the animals in the 
garden before Eve was created.  To understand why, see this interesting lecture:
 

 Rabbi Mordechai Kraft - Mystical Secrets In The Garden of Eden 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI 
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI
 
 Rabbi Mordechai Kraft - Mystical Secrets In The Ga... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI TorahAnyTime Website: 
http://www.torahanytime.com/ Rabbi's On TorahAnyTime: 
http://www.torahanytime.com/index.ph...


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 



  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramayan in Human Physiology-with video links

[Duveyoung]

Watched his vid called "What Is The Self" and couldn't finish it.

Got up to about the 12th time that I'd disagreed with how he used words, and I 
just got sad for the guy. 
Again, I ain't much, but I do take Advaita seriously enough to study it daily 
-- for 16 years now, and this is just fauxVed blarney.  This guy is not 
representing Advaita -- not sure he's representing anything else either.

This King might be wearing a crown, but he's not wearing anything else except 
some hand-me-downs from a famous emperor.  

 Before he even came on the scene with his secret fucking wife and his 
non-celibately produced progeny we all thought we'd end up like this guy, 
speaking like this guy, having it all and being holy -- and -- and -- and whoa 
Nelly, eh?

I'm feeling like I ducked a cannon shot.  This guy might be rich, but he's not 
much more.  And what he is is locked into his identity.  Talk about your Death 
Row solitary confinement.  Yikes.  He threw away his own key to the cell!  

Or, he's laughing up his ass and snorting coke in the back room.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Was an Angel

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Re "Adam was allowed to date the animals in the garden before Eve was created":
 

 I think that is more revealing of the rabbi's dirty-minded fantasies than an 
illuminating exegesis of Genesis!
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Believe it or not, Rabbi Mordicai Kraft said this is true and is supported by 
the Torah.  He also said that Adam was allowed to date the animals in the 
garden before Eve was created.  To understand why, see this interesting lecture:
 

 Rabbi Mordechai Kraft - Mystical Secrets In The Garden of Eden 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI 
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI
 
 Rabbi Mordechai Kraft - Mystical Secrets In The Ga... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI TorahAnyTime Website: 
http://www.torahanytime.com/ Rabbi's On TorahAnyTime: 
http://www.torahanytime.com/index.ph...


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 



  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 God, I hate shit like this. This way madness lies. If you play around with 
this Gematria nonsense (assigning numerical values to words hoping that words 
with the same numerical values have a relationship to each other) you can prove 
anything you want. It all depends on your own ingenuity.
 

 Einstein would be turning in his grave if he hadn't been cremated and his 
brain hadn't been removed and preserved in alcohol (funny that Einstein was 
teetotal).
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 The lecture was very interesting.  The concept of sound as the start of 
creation is similar to the Ved,  which MMY explains is the constitution of the 
universe.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk
 
 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important 
message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this 
video if you want to have a shar...


 
 View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Satan Was an Angel

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Believe it or not, Rabbi Mordicai Kraft said this is true and is supported by 
the Torah.  He also said that Adam was allowed to date the animals in the 
garden before Eve was created.  To understand why, see this interesting lecture:
 

 Rabbi Mordechai Kraft - Mystical Secrets In The Garden of Eden 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI 
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI 
 
 Rabbi Mordechai Kraft - Mystical Secrets In The Ga... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI TorahAnyTime Website: 
http://www.torahanytime.com/ Rabbi's On TorahAnyTime: 
http://www.torahanytime.com/index.ph...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AHco824RDI 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramayan in Human Physiology-with video links

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So Veda is the Blueprint of the Human Body and The Hebrew Language is The DNA 
of Creation.
 

 Nice to know that God is bilingual.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Veda is the Blueprint of the Human Body & Ramayan in Human Physiology 
[Maharishi Mahesh Yogi] 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 
 
 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 
 Veda is the Blueprint of the Human Body & Ramayan i... 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 ​PLEASE FIND DOWNLOAD LINK FOR ATTACHED FILE BELOW:​ 130030775 
<= Download Link For Attached File Dr. Tony Nader received...


 
 View on worldhindunews.com 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Russell Brand gets spiritual

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The celebrity TMer talks to Etan Ilfeld (off-camera) about his beliefs.
 

 This Etan Ifeld chap is the owner of Watkins Books, London's oldest esoteric 
bookshop (1893).
 

 I've met him a few times and find him a bit creepy! This is what Wiki tells 
about him:
 

 Etan Ilfeld graduated at the top of his undergraduate Physics class at 
Stanford University and was awarded the David Levine Award. 
 He is also a member of Phi Beta Kappa and holds a Masters in Film Studies from 
the University of Southern California, and a Masters in Interactive Media from 
Goldsmiths, University of London. 
 He is also the inventor of Diving Chess, a chess variant played in a pool such 
that each player can think during their turn for as long as they can hold their 
breath underwater.
 

 Sometimes you can be a bit too pushy and ambitious for your own good! Chill 
out.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkvnFd4kTI 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkvnFd4kTI

  

[FairfieldLife] Ramayan in Human Physiology-with video links

[srijau]

Veda is the Blueprint of the Human Body & Ramayan in Human Physiology 
[Maharishi Mahesh Yogi] 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 
 
 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 
 
 Veda is the Blueprint of the Human Body & Ramayan i... 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 ​PLEASE FIND DOWNLOAD LINK FOR ATTACHED FILE BELOW:​ 130030775 
<= Download Link For Attached File Dr. Tony Nader received...
 
 
 
 View on worldhindunews.com 
http://worldhindunews.com/2014091831778/veda-is-the-blueprint-of-the-human-body-ramayan-in-human-physiology-maharishi-mahesh-yogi/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Zzzz..

On 12/10/2014 06:50 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Yes, let us have a holiday of silence on FFL.   A FFL going-on-holiday 
in to and then coming out of a silence then anew in the making of 
something kinder like a renewing of the communal FFL forum.




Dear Rick, Yes host an extended period of FFL silence. Do let there be 
Silence until 12 January on FFL. At the least. Thence in coming out of 
such reforming silence have FairfieldLife join unto that traditional 
day of January 12^th. You know, that time within the old meditating 
community of renewed spirituality, vitality, clarity and thence more 
life-supporting activity as then coming out of silence.


-The FFL Patriarch of Peace and Heaven on Earth, Buck in the Dome



Dear Rick, towards administratively enforcing a No-fly Zone over the 
posting of unkindness on FFL, it is an excellent time right now given 
the course of events to plan and start such a counter-attack so as to 
take back our branding of FairfieldLife once again by first 
dis-engaging the unkindness that gets posted here and letting those 
people so inclined to re-pattern their lives otherwise in reformative 
silence for a period of time.





Rick there is a chance present here, a fine opportunity now to take 
back FFL and recapture its franchise, the /Brand/ of FFL from the 
unkindness that has swept over the forum. “Now is the Winter of 
Dis-content.” Make it ours again, a free and open forum again reserved 
and preserved as a place for kind thoughtfulness. It is time to have a 
strict No-fly Zone over FFL at Yahoo-groups. Let FFL go silent for a 
time. Give it a fallow rest.


-Buck




A winter break, imposing a No-Fly-Zone over FFL. This would be a 
kindness.  Rick, take and assume a moral leadership and set direction 
in executive action on this now as timely initiative in the 
re-alignment of FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups with Yahoo-groups 
guidelines.


 Sincerely, -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife




Dear Rick;

21 December coming is the first day of Winter. Let it be the first day 
of Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. It [the first day of 
Winter] should be a good day to begin a dormancy on FFL, a winter's 
hibernation, a negotiating planned disengagement of the culture of 
unkindness that has unbecome FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  Sincere 
regards, -Buck




Dear Rick, Asserting and instilling a period like a /seasonal /silence 
over FFL as a gesture would place more of a firm grip as moral 
leadership towards reforming the general unkindness that spread across 
FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups, /it would be very good to extend such a 
suspended silence upon FFL even unto first day of Spring [March 
20/^/th/ /2015]/ whence fairer flowers springing might arise anew 
coming out of such reformative depth as a reflective period so imposed 
administratively as a reflective moral silence of a long and silent 
communal FFL winter.  -Buck in Fairfield




 Rick, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon 
FFL even unto the first day of Spring. [March 20^th 2015]





Dear Rick, Instilling an administrative no-fly zone of silence over 
FairfieldLife as a means of disengagement would be important moral 
leadership in changing the manifest wreckage of unkind tone that this 
battlefield of FFL has become. It is time to clear the FFL field 
spiritually.


I would support you in this,

 -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.




Yep silence FFL, suspend it, unto Easter Sunday [April 5, 2015] 
symbolic to the resurrection of something anew and a new hope in the 
community that was FFL.




Dear Rick,

How about we take, at the least, the rest of the month of December and 
/_suspend_/ all posting at all to FFL?Start then with a kinder more 
gentle FFL anew with posting on January 1st. Take some time off to 
re-group.


-Buck




Rick, we know and understand that you are busy however; have you been 
reading any of the posts to FFL?




Rick, Just scroll down through the subject lines if you don't have 
time to read the posts, they are appalling. -Buck




Rick, the neganauts here are playing you now to see how far they can 
take it.



Dear Rick, As an old Friend You see I really don't feel that you 
should yield FairfieldLife over to the methodical negativity that has 
overrun and overtaken our FairfieldLife [FFL] community on 
Yahoo-groups.  Sincerely, -Buck



Rick, FairfieldLife [FFL] has been way too important to communal 
Fairfield life in the past to just let it go to the aggressive dogs of 
unkind negativity as some mean and now narrowed successor group 
caliphate of hateful neganauts.



The larger communal use of FFL that FFL could facilitate in communication:


Rick, for instance this FFL post is an incredibly important post
within the things going on right now in the Fairfield meditating
community:


404986Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on No

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, let us have a holiday of silence on FFL.   A FFL going-on-holiday in to 
and then coming out of a silence then anew in the making of something kinder 
like a renewing of the communal FFL forum.
 


 Dear Rick, Yes host an extended period of FFL silence. Do let there be Silence 
until 12 January on FFL. At the least. Thence in coming out of such reforming 
silence have FairfieldLife join unto that traditional day of January 12th.
You know, that time within the old meditating community of renewed 
spirituality, vitality, clarity and thence more life-supporting activity as 
then coming out of silence. 
 -The FFL Patriarch of Peace and Heaven on Earth, Buck in the Dome

 

 Dear Rick, towards administratively enforcing a No-fly Zone over the posting 
of unkindness on FFL, it is an excellent time right now given the course of 
events to plan and start such a counter-attack so as to take back our branding 
of FairfieldLife once again by first dis-engaging the unkindness that gets 
posted here and letting those people so inclined to re-pattern their lives 
otherwise in reformative silence for a period of time.   



 Rick there is a chance present here, a fine opportunity now to take back FFL 
and recapture its franchise, the Brand of FFL from the unkindness that has 
swept over the forum. “Now is the Winter of Dis-content.” Make it ours again, a 
free and open forum again reserved and preserved as a place for kind 
thoughtfulness. It is time to have a strict No-fly Zone over FFL at 
Yahoo-groups. Let FFL go silent for a time. Give it a fallow rest.  
 -Buck



 A winter break, imposing a No-Fly-Zone over FFL. This would be a kindness.  
Rick, take and assume a moral leadership and set direction in executive action 
on this now as timely initiative in the re-alignment of FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups with Yahoo-groups guidelines. 
  Sincerely, -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife  



 Dear Rick; 
 21 December coming is the first day of Winter. Let it be the first day of 
Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. It [the first day of Winter] should be 
a good day to begin a dormancy on FFL, a winter's hibernation, a negotiating 
planned disengagement of the culture of unkindness that has unbecome 
FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  Sincere regards, -Buck


 Dear Rick, Asserting and instilling a period like a seasonal silence over FFL 
as a gesture would place more of a firm grip as moral leadership towards 
reforming the general unkindness that spread across FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL 
even unto first day of Spring [March 20th 2015] whence fairer flowers springing 
might arise anew coming out of such reformative depth as a reflective period so 
imposed administratively as a reflective moral silence of a long and silent 
communal FFL winter.  -Buck in Fairfield  


  Rick, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL even 
unto the first day of Spring. [March 20th 2015]



 Dear Rick, Instilling an administrative no-fly zone of silence over 
FairfieldLife as a means of disengagement would be important moral leadership 
in changing the manifest wreckage of unkind tone that this battlefield of FFL 
has become. It is time to clear the FFL field spiritually. 
 I would support you in this, 
  -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  



 Yep silence FFL, suspend it, unto Easter Sunday [April 5, 2015] symbolic to 
the resurrection of something anew and a new hope in the community that was FFL.


 Dear Rick,  
 How about we take, at the least, the rest of the month of December and suspend 
all posting at all to FFL? Start then with a kinder more gentle FFL anew with 
posting on January 1st. Take some time off to re-group.
 -Buck  
 



 Rick, we know and understand that you are busy however; have you been reading 
any of the posts to FFL?


 Rick, Just scroll down through the subject lines if you don't have time to 
read the posts, they are appalling. -Buck


 Rick, the neganauts here are playing you now to see how far they can take it.

 Dear Rick, As an old Friend You see I really don't feel that you should yield 
FairfieldLife over to the methodical negativity that has overrun and overtaken 
our FairfieldLife [FFL] community on Yahoo-groups.  Sincerely, -Buck

 Rick, FairfieldLife [FFL] has been way too important to communal Fairfield 
life in the past to just let it go to the aggressive dogs of unkind negativity 
as some mean and now narrowed successor group caliphate of hateful neganauts.

The larger communal use of FFL that FFL could facilitate in communication:

 Rick, for instance this FFL post is an incredibly important post within the 
things going on right now in the Fairfield meditating community: 404986Re: FW: 
A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of 
Othershttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/404986
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/g

[FairfieldLife] The Police

[Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

We saw them live at the AT&T Center in San Antonio, Ghosts in the Machine
Tour November 21, 2007.



*Live at the AT&T Center, San Antonio, 2007*

Another favorite of mine from the Ghost in the Machine album, 1981 -
"Spirits in the Material World". These two songs are what I call "ear
hummers" - once you hear them, they keep humming in your ears for days!

*"Their 1983 album, Synchronicity, was number one on both the UK Albums
Chart and the US Billboard 200, and sold over 8 million copies in the US.
The Police have won six Grammy Awards, two Brit Awards (winning Best
British Group once), an MTV Video Music Award, and in 2003 were inducted
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."*

The Police are Sting - lead vocals, bass; Andy Summers - guitar; and
Stewart Copeland - drums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Police

Roxanne - one of my favorites which was banned by the BBC. Go figure.

The Police - Roxanne
http://youtu.be/3T1c7GkzRQQ

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 The lecture was very interesting.  The concept of sound as the start of 
creation is similar to the Ved,  which MMY explains is the constitution of the 
universe.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk
 
 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important 
message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this 
video if you want to have a shar...


 
 View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Hunkering Down

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

For the storm of the century in the San Francisco Bay Area.  The worst 
is supposed to be tomorrow morning. Blizzard warnings in the Sierras.

http://www.rntl.net/mttamcam.htm

http://www.weatherpages.com/bayarea/livecams.html

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch: His Mission to Change the World Through Meditation

[srijau]

Interview With David Lynch: His Mission to Change the World Through Meditation 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marianne-schnall/interview-with-david-lync_b_6294092.html
 
 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marianne-schnall/interview-with-david-lync_b_6294092.html
 
 
 Interview With David Lynch: His Mission to Change the... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marianne-schnall/interview-with-david-lync_b_6294092.html
 I can remember being absolutely hooked and engrossed into the surreal world of 
the cutting-edge television series Twin Peaks back in the '90s. Th...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Keeping the internet free

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Fascinating article in today's Telegraph about an on-going project to re-vamp 
how we access the Web. By using "block chain technology" (like Bitcoin does) in 
future everything could be done anonymously, and censorship would be close to 
impossible. No one could shut it down, because no one owns it.
 

 Armed with 30,000 Bitcoin (around $12 million dollars) of crowd-funded 
support, the "Etherium" project is 40 of the smartest people you'll ever meet, 
based mainly in Amsterdam, Berlin and London. They are currently hard at work 
building a new programming language and platform that uses the block chain and 
applies it to anything on the internet.
 

 What that means is that governments won't be able to shut down conversations 
they don't approve of. Good news for terrorists, paedophiles and drug dealers, 
perhaps. But also good news for libertarians who want to keep citizens talking 
to each other without going via the mainstream media with its in-built bias.
 http://tinyurl.com/n9wmct7 http://tinyurl.com/n9wmct7

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Boy, everybody is trying to get into this act. I thought Bantu was the language 
of creation. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk
 
 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important 
message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this 
video if you want to have a shar...


 
 View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rosetta delivers the goods!

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 02:09 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

And maybe your ancestors too! :-D

Well, I've always been a space cadet. I've got this affinity with 
infinity.


Before your time:

http://youtu.be/mooHeDR08zk

Be sure to get your secret decoder ring!



On 12/10/2014 01:43 PM, salyavin808 wrote:

Where the water on Earth came from has got to be worth knowing. Top 
marks to the team.



Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from asteroid 
collisions 






image 




Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from as... 
 

The first detailed scientific results from the Rosetta space mission, 
which successfully orbited a comet and then soft-landed a small 
robotic probe on its...


View on www.independent.co.uk 



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[FairfieldLife] The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk 
 
 The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important 
message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this 
video if you want to have a shar...
 
 
 
 View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

MJ, 

 Ahem...I didn't have Judy's chart.  But I used a prashna chart, that is a 
chart of the moment with a question in mind: what happened to Judy?  Also, I 
didn't say she died.  Somebody else said that.  I said she may have had an 
accident at home or in a car.  
 

 You can research the archives to prove this.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were all hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
 
   Curtis!
 

 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
 

 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
 

 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
 

 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
 

 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rosetta delivers the goods!

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And maybe your ancestors too! :-D 
 

 Well, I've always been a space cadet. I've got this affinity with infinity.
 
 On 12/10/2014 01:43 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   Where the water on Earth came from has got to be worth knowing. Top marks to 
the team.
 

 Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from asteroid collisions
 
 
 
 
 
 Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from as... The first detailed 
scientific results from the Rosetta space mission, which successfully orbited a 
comet and then soft-landed a small robotic probe on its...


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] It's All About WeeWilly, was what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 11:34 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
>
*/Skipping the WeeWilly content and just going for the good part, 
isn't this just The Creepiest Song Ever Written once you choose to see 
it that way?

/*
*/
/*
*/I have seen it effectively used on TV shows in exactly that context, 
as the soundtrack for a stalker. /*

/*>
*Now this is really funny - Barry called the police on Ann and Raunchy 
and so they went over to Jim's forum. So, Barry went over to The_Peak to 
do some lurking to see if they said anything about him, but "WeeWilly is 
a "stalker". Go figure.


You just can'tmake this stuff up! LoL!*
*/

[FairfieldLife] Re: New World Order

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Meet the new boss:
 

 

 

 

 CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective 
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released

 
 
 http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
 
 CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal an... 
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released 
Report released by Senate after four-year, $40m investigation concludes CIA 
repeatedly lied about brutal techniques in years after 9/11


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 11:26 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
Barry must be your guru because I have never seen such devotion since 
Maharishi died.

>
Uncle Tantra is one of my favorite gurus and I have a lot of devotion to 
him and his writing. In fact, if it wasn't for The Corrector and The 
Uncle, I probably wouldn't even be here reading and posting comments. I 
learned a lot from both of them - they are really a couple of smart 
people and they know a lot. I've been reading their comments since 1995 
- I'm a very devoted fan. Barry not so much.


/Don't call the police! Don't shoot - my hands are up. I can't breathe!/
>


The Police - Every Breath You Take (With Lyrics) 





image 


The Police - Every Breath You Take (With Lyrics) 

Every Breath You Take by The Police With Lyrics I do not own the 
audio, UMG does


View on www.youtube.com 

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 12/10/2014 10:18 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

>


I think it means that you are looking for a little drama today.

>
What's wrong with a little drama? Just because Barry called Share
a "drama queen" doesn't mean that Share is a bad person, Curtis.
It is kind of funny though that Barry stalked her over to The Peak
to see if she said anything about him.

Another thing that's funny is that Buck and I seem to be the only
ones left that want to discuss Barry's police hoax. So, Barry wins
the religious debate - he owns this forum and you're his backup.
Go figure.
>




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you
all on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written
about them?! LOL! It's gotta mean something!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rosetta delivers the goods!

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

And maybe your ancestors too! :-D

On 12/10/2014 01:43 PM, salyavin808 wrote:


Where the water on Earth came from has got to be worth knowing. Top 
marks to the team.



Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from asteroid 
collisions 






image 
 




Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from as... 
 

The first detailed scientific results from the Rosetta space mission, 
which successfully orbited a comet and then soft-landed a small 
robotic probe on its...


View on www.independent.co.uk 
 



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[FairfieldLife] Rosetta delivers the goods!

[salyavin808]

Where the water on Earth came from has got to be worth knowing. Top marks to 
the team.
 

 Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from asteroid collisions 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/rosetta-mission-shows-water-on-earth-likely-came-from-asteroid-collisions-9916518.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/rosetta-mission-shows-water-on-earth-likely-came-from-asteroid-collisions-9916518.html
 
 
 Rosetta mission shows water on Earth likely came from as... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/rosetta-mission-shows-water-on-earth-likely-came-from-asteroid-collisions-9916518.html
 The first detailed scientific results from the Rosetta space mission, which 
successfully orbited a comet and then soft-landed a small robotic probe on 
its...
 
 
 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/rosetta-mission-shows-water-on-earth-likely-came-from-asteroid-collisions-9916518.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

 Sal: "..the ability to gain knowledge of the external world by NOT looking at 
it and coming up with explanatory ideas for inner visions that explain reality 
would be a bitter blow to everyone toiling in laboratories to come up with 
fundamental physical ideas" 

 

 For me, traditional cultures and their models and practices ("Traditional") 
have a number of potentially useful hypotheses about how nature and the mind 
work -- developed on an observational basis refined over 1000's of years (in 
some cases), identifying what appears to work and that which does not in a 
particular area of investigation whereby the ineffective were presumably 
discarded and the promising and more effective practices refined and tweaked. 
Perhaps more akin to the trial and error of engineering new products compared 
to double blind placebo studies. Examining such well-honed hypotheses from 
Traditional cultures, in my view, does not insult anyone pursuing research in 
physics, neuroscience or any field in which traditional cultures may have 
pondered and toiled for many generations.
 

 Wow, you've come across well honed ideas about how the mind and nature work 
from traditional cultures? I missed those, but I don't think we are talking 
about the same thing. What I am looking for is a nuts and bolts explanation of 
how the brain and consciousness works. You don't get that from traditional 
theories, they have no way of understanding the nitty-gritty of how the brain 
works, that is the domain of neuroscience and I think it's doing a rather job, 
it's not complete but they've only just started.
 

 


 What science has revealed is astonishing, and accelerating. Yet, at the same 
time, what it admittedly does not know is also breathtaking  startling. As far 
as neuroscience ("NS") has progressed in the past 10-15 years, and as powerful 
and subtle as neuroimaging technologies have become -- as well as the 
computational power for crunching data as well as running complex simulations, 
NS still does not have, for example, a clear model and understanding where 
memories are   .  There have been great advances in understanding types of 
memories, memory formation, retrieval, neurosynaptic basis of learning and 
recall, how unstable some memories can be, etc. And while significant progress 
has been made, the role and mechanics of memory in so as to effectively be 
applied to enhance higher levels of peak performance such as increasing working 
memory and enhancing quick and efficient recall of encoded memory, maintaining 
memory with aging and disease, coping with deep disabling memories combatting 
addictive, compulsive, obsessive, non-productive behaviors, etc.  is quite 
limited.
 

 I think the science of how memories work is more advanced than you think but 
the fact they don't have it 100% sussed doesn't mean it isn't going to happen. 
The brain is a machine and as such it can be understood. I could get googling 
and write an essay but I'm a bit pushed for time but I had a quick perusal of 
this:
 

 


http://www.human-memory.net/ http://www.human-memory.net/ 
 What is missing that any traditional thought system could add?
 

 

 

 Yet Traditional cultures possibly have a quite a bit of insight on and models 
of memory mechanisms -- as well as practices to enhance the positive aspects 
and nullify the negative attributes of memory mechanisms. My prior discussion 
of the traditional view of resolving sanchita karma as a requisite for 
spiritual liberation has a corresponding Traditional model of memory -- 
samskaras (deep impressions) and vasanas (clusters of such) in .a deep level of 
individuality in Traditional parlance the karana sharira (causal body).  I am 
deeply interested in what modern science can reveal regarding such (that is 
rejecting it a viable hypothesis, finding some correlates of it, or fleshing 
out details of it, etc). However, it may be many years (to never) before 
science is able to adequately explore such. Evidence of absence is not absence 
of evidence. 
 

 OTOH, a lot of Traditional knowledge about mind and memory at more tangible 
levels than karana sharira are being currently researched in many NS labs -- 
including Traditional herbs, various forms of meditation, etc. And research on 
and positive effects of Trans-Cranial Direct Current Stimulation (tDCS) is 
growing rapidly (I was in a recent experiment at a university and the results 
appeared surprisingly effective).  Parallels to tDCS research and models and 
Traditional energy pathways, marmas, nadis etc may be a ripe and tangible path 
in inquiry.   
 

 As I said, ideas can come from any source of inspiration, it's the principle 
of testing and criticising that gets to the bottom of it. Without the 
scientific process you never can be sure that what you know is the best 
explanation, which is why knowledge has accelerated so much in recent centuries 
compared to the snails pace 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ground War Against IS

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

There would be shared *blame*. Obama can veto such a bill. 
  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:07 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ground War Against IS
   
     Kerry is maneuvering to pass a law for ground war against IS in January 
2015 which would be voted on by a Congress controlled by Republicans.  When it 
passes, Obama would more likely send Americans back to Iraq.  Then, he can 
blame the Republicans for authorizing the ground war.
It's very likely that the Republicans will enact a law that will send Americans 
back to Iraq.
http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-to-congress--don-t-rule-out-u-s--ground-war-against-islamic-state-211816105.html
 
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[FairfieldLife] It's All About Willy, was what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 11:23 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
 >
> Notice that Willy dashed right over there when it started and posted 
> all of two posts and that was it.  Must've not found any walls to 
> scrawl his graffiti on. :-D 
 >
Apparently you got left behind. So, you did a little stalking and 
lurking. Maybe you wanted to see if anyone said anything about you. 
Sorry, you weren't mention one single time. Go figure.

P.S. There's no "willy" on The_Peak.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Awkward Spiritual Teacher. (was New Interview on BATGAP)

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

And I'm looking forward to the series finale of "Sons of Anarchy" 
tonight (since I get it via streaming).  So I've been avoiding any news 
stories on it.


Regarding HBO, there was a memo leaked that says that HBO Go for 
everyone will be released as I originally predicted when the next season 
of "Game of Thrones" starts probably in April.


"Stretch" is another dark comedy (though you may have seen it) that may 
be up your alley in the vein of something like "A Girl Walks into a 
Bar."  BTW, how is the TPB these days? :-D


On 12/10/2014 11:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/OK, you got me by praising Sloan Sabbith. What a fuckin' babe, eh?  
:-)/*

*/
/*
*/But really for me it was more the way the rest of the newsroom staff 
reacted to Maggie going on the air as newsreader again after the 
traumas she experienced in season two that really makes the series 
what it is. They just fuckin' CARED how she did, and celebrated her 
doing it. That's full-cast ambiance we haven't seen since "Firefly."

/*
*/
/*
*/Just havin' fun. The only serious thing I have to say is that these 
six final episodes of "The Newsroom" are to the whole series as 
"Serenity" (the movie) was to "Firefly" (the TV series).


This is what you do if you want to exit gracefully after having been 
rejected by the very people you were trying to reach. /*



*From:* "seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:31 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Awkward Spiritual Teacher. (was New 
Interview on BATGAP)


I clicked on this and mistakenly read "xyz is an Awkward Spiritual 
Teacher"


My immediate response, "tell me more".

Probably juxtaposed in my head with recent viewing of some Newsroom 
clips on Youtube (prompted by recent FFL discussions on Newsroom and 
also the recent start of Season 3 (and sadly, next Sunday -- the 
series final show).


To me, Sloan Sabbith [Olivia Munn] (the network's "money honey") has 
always been an interesting character -- very smart, well educated, 
well-intentioned, but socially very awkward at times. Not at all in a 
Sheldon Cooper sense (Big Bang), but in a hyper, overdrive, repeatedly 
keep sticking her foot in it, yet unembarrassed, and self-aware, 
conscious that she is mucking things up, and while considerate, not 
overly apologetic about charging ahead because inherently she is aware 
some solution exists (even if she can't get there right away)


In a YouTube interview she said that after reading the initial script, 
she suggested the added self-conscious quality to the social 
awkwardness  to Aaron Sorkin, proposing it would deepen the Sloan 
character. He agreed and they have nuanced and refined the persona 
over three seasons.


In that context, my image of the Sloan Sabbith character as spiritual 
teacher made me laugh, while also thinking "that would be interesting 
if not awesome".
That is, highly knowledgeable, trained and experienced in spiritual 
matters/practices -- yet aware of her short comings in other areas. 
Instead of trying to fake it, just being upfront, clumsy, admittedly 
out of her league, yet progressively using her skills and smarts to 
keep digging into the new area, not afraid to fall and laugh at 
herself in front of students, and over time, nailing that particular 
area of mundane knowledge.  .

Re: [FairfieldLife] Awkward Spiritual Teacher. (was New Interview on BATGAP)

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

OK, you got me by praising Sloan Sabbith. What a fuckin' babe, eh?  :-)
But really for me it was more the way the rest of the newsroom staff reacted to 
Maggie going on the air as newsreader again after the traumas she experienced 
in season two that really makes the series what it is. They just fuckin' CARED 
how she did, and celebrated her doing it. That's full-cast ambiance we haven't 
seen since "Firefly." 

Just havin' fun. The only serious thing I have to say is that these six final 
episodes of "The Newsroom" are to the whole series as "Serenity" (the movie) 
was to "Firefly" (the TV series). 

This is what you do if you want to exit gracefully after having been rejected 
by the very people you were trying to reach. 
  From: "seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:31 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Awkward Spiritual Teacher. (was New Interview on 
BATGAP)
   
   I clicked on this and mistakenly read "xyz is an Awkward Spiritual Teacher"
My immediate response, "tell me more".
Probably juxtaposed in my head with recent viewing of some Newsroom clips on 
Youtube (prompted by recent FFL discussions on Newsroom and also the recent 
start of Season 3 (and sadly, next Sunday -- the series final show). 
To me, Sloan Sabbith [Olivia Munn] (the network's "money honey") has always 
been an interesting character -- very smart, well educated, well-intentioned, 
but socially very awkward at times. Not at all in a Sheldon Cooper sense (Big 
Bang), but in a hyper, overdrive, repeatedly keep sticking her foot in it, yet 
unembarrassed, and self-aware, conscious that she is mucking things up, and 
while considerate, not overly apologetic about charging ahead because 
inherently she is aware some solution exists (even if she can't get there right 
away) 
In a YouTube interview she said that after reading the initial script, she 
suggested the added self-conscious quality to the social awkwardness  to Aaron 
Sorkin, proposing it would deepen the Sloan character. He agreed and they have 
nuanced and refined the persona over three seasons.
In that context, my image of the Sloan Sabbith character as spiritual teacher 
made me laugh, while also thinking "that would be interesting if not awesome". 
That is, highly knowledgeable, trained and experienced in spiritual 
matters/practices -- yet aware of her short comings in other areas. Instead of 
trying to fake it, just being upfront, clumsy, admittedly out of her league, 
yet progressively using her skills and smarts to keep digging into the new 
area, not afraid to fall and laugh at herself in front of students, and over 
time, nailing that particular area of mundane knowledge.  .
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[FairfieldLife] Pope Francis: Animals Go to Heaven

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

He appears to have started a new theology that contradicts the statements of 
the other popes before him.  It also shows that heaven is not reserved for 
humans only.  Does that make sense?
 

 Pope Francis: Animals Go To Heaven 
http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-animals-go-to-heaven-2014-12

 
 
 http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-animals-go-to-heaven-2014-12 
 
 Pope Francis: Animals Go To Heaven 
http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-animals-go-to-heaven-2014-12 The 
Pope was trying to comfort a boy who had lost his pet dog.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Xeno, my experience is more one of everythingness...

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness
   
    What is interesting about this experience is it is the 'oneness' (or 
'noneness') of the no-thought state, TC. It is not an experience of the 
'oneness of unity, because he/she says 'one must be free to dive into the 
transcendent', which is not a separate aspect of experience in unity. This 
would seem to be on the face of it, your basic 'Hey, I transcended' experience, 
which just about anyone who practised TM for more than a couple of months at 
home would have.
Written in heavy-duty TM jargon style. Another way to say this (afterwards) is, 
'Hey, where did I go?' A friend of mine once taught a young woman TM, and her 
first experience from her first meditation was 'There was just nothing!' From 
the posters here, I would say Share has experiences like this, based on what 
she has said in the past, except she seems to carry them into activity.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Dick, you might find a more appreciative audience for this kind of post over at 
the_p...@yahoogroups.com

  From: "Dick Mays dickmays@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: Dick Mays  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness [1 Attachment]
 
 The following was written by aperson on the Invincible America Assembly at MUM 
in Fairfield, Iowa. This person wishes to remainanonymous.
 

Lulled into Oneness
I love the trick Atmanplays, luring us into more and more refined values of 
Being, letting us floatinto finer and finer experience of that which is the 
basis of all experience,the very principle of awareness. We are just barely 
there, so delicate are thesefiner levels. We are just barely there, just softly 
there like the smallest offeathers floating on air that is barely moving at 
all. It is alluring, it istender. It is existence in its simplest, easiest, 
most purified form where theboundary between absolute and relative is becoming 
muted, ill defined, mistlike.
And then, without theslightest preamble, without even the tiniest of nudges 
from this most refinedaspect of Atman, of Being, of this indescribable 
boundless field ofintelligence, awareness, and unutterable sweetness, we are 
gone. Even this fieldis gone. Nothing remains but oneness. No field, no 
individual to considerwhether there is a field, nothing but perfect oneness. 
Reality knowing Realityis all that is left, Self knowing Self. The knower and 
process of knowingdisassemble into the perfect oneness, the unperturbed 
wholeness, the unalteredAbsolute from whence they came.
There is no descriptionof this because there is nothing to describe or nothing 
that can be put intoanything that still retains even as much structure as 
thought.

And how did this happen?It was all a gentle trap set with the sweetest of bait, 
the irresistibleattraction of our own perfect Self and the time to allow us to 
arrive at thisperfect union.

One cannot be hurried,cannot be time aware to get here. One must be free to 
dive into thetranscendent, and then just allow the current of Totality to pull 
you into thatsweet and simple place where there can be nothing at all but That, 
nothing atall but wholeness, undisturbed, unaltered, unbounded, where even the 
faintestawareness the boundaries of small-s self are finally and 
completelyremoved.

For this opportunityMaharishi gave us the Invincible America Assembly where the 
invincibility of ourown eternal nature can be fathomed, can be experienced, can 
be realized as thevery fabric of our Being.

Jai GuruDev



And some questions
Question:
 
Did you confirm / verify your cc experience with... I can't reallythink who... 
some one you would trust to say "yes, that's it," or was it justself evident 
(when the experience stayed with you) that it couldn't be anythingelse? 
 
Did the shift in consciousness make any difference in your flyingprogram?
 

Answer:
 
Goodquestions.
 
Regarding did I confirm my experience with anyone, I had a friendwho had 
"awakened" back in the early 90's. I called him and told him what washappening. 
But that was more like sharing than confirming. It's prettyself-evident when it 
happens. Although you spend quite a few weeks wonderingeveryday if it will go 
away. Then you finally just relax into it and begin todiscard those 
preconceived notions of what you thought it wold be like andaccept what it IS 
like.
 
As for my flying program, all I can say is all the sutras becamemore enjoyable, 
more powerful, more exquisite. Everything became moreeffortless. By that I mean 
my whole program became more effortless. I rememberthinking to myself that I 
had been trying much too hard a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What is interesting about this experience is it is the 'oneness' (or 
'noneness') of the no-thought state, TC. It is not an experience of the 
'oneness of unity, because he/she says 'one must be free to dive into the 
transcendent', which is not a separate aspect of experience in unity. This 
would seem to be on the face of it, your basic 'Hey, I transcended' experience, 
which just about anyone who practised TM for more than a couple of months at 
home would have. 

 Written in heavy-duty TM jargon style. Another way to say this (afterwards) 
is, 'Hey, where did I go?' A friend of mine once taught a young woman TM, and 
her first experience from her first meditation was 'There was just nothing!' 
From the posters here, I would say Share has experiences like this, based on 
what she has said in the past, except she seems to carry them into activity.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dick, you might find a more appreciative audience for this kind of post over 
at the_p...@yahoogroups.com
 

 From: "Dick Mays dickmays@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: Dick Mays  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness [1 Attachment]
 
 
   
 The following was written by a person on the Invincible America Assembly at 
MUM in Fairfield, Iowa. This person wishes to remain anonymous.
 

Lulled into Oneness
 
I love the trick Atman plays, luring us into more and more refined values of 
Being, letting us float into finer and finer experience of that which is the 
basis of all experience, the very principle of awareness. We are just barely 
there, so delicate are these finer levels. We are just barely there, just 
softly there like the smallest of feathers floating on air that is barely 
moving at all. It is alluring, it is tender. It is existence in its simplest, 
easiest, most purified form where the boundary between absolute and relative is 
becoming muted, ill defined, mist like.
 
And then, without the slightest preamble, without even the tiniest of nudges 
from this most refined aspect of Atman, of Being, of this indescribable 
boundless field of intelligence, awareness, and unutterable sweetness, we are 
gone. Even this field is gone. Nothing remains but oneness. No field, no 
individual to consider whether there is a field, nothing but perfect oneness. 
Reality knowing Reality is all that is left, Self knowing Self. The knower and 
process of knowing disassemble into the perfect oneness, the unperturbed 
wholeness, the unaltered Absolute from whence they came.
 
There is no description of this because there is nothing to describe or nothing 
that can be put into anything that still retains even as much structure as 
thought.


 And how did this happen? It was all a gentle trap set with the sweetest of 
bait, the irresistible attraction of our own perfect Self and the time to allow 
us to arrive at this perfect union.


 One cannot be hurried, cannot be time aware to get here. One must be free to 
dive into the transcendent, and then just allow the current of Totality to pull 
you into that sweet and simple place where there can be nothing at all but 
That, nothing at all but wholeness, undisturbed, unaltered, unbounded, where 
even the faintest awareness the boundaries of small-s self are finally and 
completely removed.


 For this opportunity Maharishi gave us the Invincible America Assembly where 
the invincibility of our own eternal nature can be fathomed, can be 
experienced, can be realized as the very fabric of our Being.


 Jai Guru Dev


 


 And some questions
Question:
 
Did you confirm / verify your cc experience with... I can't really think who... 
some one you would trust to say "yes, that's it," or was it just self evident 
(when the experience stayed with you) that it couldn't be anything else? 
 
Did the shift in consciousness make any difference in your flying program?
 

Answer:
 
Good questions.
 
Regarding did I confirm my experience with anyone, I had a friend who had 
"awakened" back in the early 90's. I called him and told him what was 
happening. But that was more like sharing than confirming. It's pretty 
self-evident when it happens. Although you spend quite a few weeks wondering 
everyday if it will go away. Then you finally just relax into it and begin to 
discard those preconceived notions of what you thought it wold be like and 
accept what it IS like.
 
As for my flying program, all I can say is all the sutras became more 
enjoyable, more powerful, more exquisite. Everything became more effortless. By 
that I mean my whole program became more effortless. I remember thinking to 
myself that I had been trying much too hard all those years. But even activity 
took on a more effortless quality, especially as all notion the small-s self 
doing anything at all gradually evaporated in the face 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That nailed it, Curtis.  

 Buck, you live in the wrong century. I'd say about 1880 is your speed. But 
then you would have had to deal with Mark Twain, Bob Ingersoll, and Thomas 
Huxley, but without the internet, you would have been reduced to writing 
letters, longhand. Somehow that would suit you better. Us too, probably.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Why don't you stop being such a negative troublemaker and start a conversation 
here like the rest of us? I get it, you don't like my posts. The place is not 
gunna shut down because the world does not revolve around you. Post here, post 
there, but for the love of the infant baby Jesus trying to swallow some 
Frankincense and Myrrh in his little cradleyou are harshing the buzz here 
with your negativity toward our free speech.

I get it why you didn't just disappear with the rest of them. You thrive on 
conflict while maintaining the duplicitous appearance of being a peacemaker. 
You are addicted to the drama of conflict so you keep scratching on the 
blackboard till someone has had enough of your whining and complaining.

And then you get a reaction. Did you get your thrill? 

Now excuse me cuz I've got a choking savior on my hands with a bunch of 
superstitious Mid-Easterners standing around who think he is speaking in 
tongues.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dear Rick, Yes host an extended period of FFL silence. Do let there be Silence 
until 12 January on FFL. At the least. Thence in coming out of such reforming 
silence have FairfieldLife join unto that traditional day of January 12th.
You know, that time within the old meditating community of renewed 
spirituality, vitality, clarity and thence more life-supporting activity as 
then coming out of silence. 
 -The FFL Patriarch of Peace and Heaven on Earth, Buck in the Dome.

[FairfieldLife] Ground War Against IS

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Kerry is maneuvering to pass a law for ground war against IS in January 2015 
which would be voted on by a Congress controlled by Republicans.  When it 
passes, Obama would more likely send Americans back to Iraq.  Then, he can 
blame the Republicans for authorizing the ground war.
 

 It's very likely that the Republicans will enact a law that will send 
Americans back to Iraq.
 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-to-congress--don-t-rule-out-u-s--ground-war-against-islamic-state-211816105.html
 
http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-to-congress--don-t-rule-out-u-s--ground-war-against-islamic-state-211816105.html

 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 10:54 AM, Share Long wrote:
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How about turq?

>
/Oh, the Turq would never resort to drama in his posting, Share The fact 
that he called in the police on Raunchy is proof - that' wasn't drama - 
that was outright newsgroup terrorism. All it would have taken was for 
the Turq to send a few simple personal emails which could probably have 
resolved everything in a few minutes.


Turq being dramatic - never. LoL!/
>



*From:* "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?




I think it means that you are looking for a little drama today.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all 
on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! 
LOL! It's gotta mean something!



*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


*From:* "WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?


*/You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by 
suggesting that Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to 
the fact that she joined the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's 
new Yahoo group "The_Peak."


Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)/*



In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:




Ah, I must have missed that post.


*From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"

*Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November
30, 2014 Lecture
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*MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an
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**From:* "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"

*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November
30, 2014 Lecture
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*Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had
either had a bad accident involving her legs or she had become
dead (if I remember correctly). Some of us were all hoping
that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, but she
never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had
neither become dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would
never say how she knew, and she herself is no longer living in
FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.
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**From:* "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November
30, 2014 Lecture
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Can someone me the short story of what happened?*
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the 30th, having been clued by several people that it was
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[FairfieldLife] Awkward Spiritual Teacher. (was New Interview on BATGAP)

[seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

 I clicked on this and mistakenly read "xyz is an Awkward Spiritual Teacher"
 

 My immediate response, "tell me more".
 

 Probably juxtaposed in my head with recent viewing of some Newsroom clips on 
Youtube (prompted by recent FFL discussions on Newsroom and also the recent 
start of Season 3 (and sadly, next Sunday -- the series final show). 
 

 To me, Sloan Sabbith [Olivia Munn] (the network's "money honey") has always 
been an interesting character -- very smart, well educated, well-intentioned, 
but socially very awkward at times. Not at all in a Sheldon Cooper sense (Big 
Bang), but in a hyper, overdrive, repeatedly keep sticking her foot in it, yet 
unembarrassed, and self-aware, conscious that she is mucking things up, and 
while considerate, not overly apologetic about charging ahead because 
inherently she is aware some solution exists (even if she can't get there right 
away) 
 

 In a YouTube interview she said that after reading the initial script, she 
suggested the added self-conscious quality to the social awkwardness  to Aaron 
Sorkin, proposing it would deepen the Sloan character. He agreed and they have 
nuanced and refined the persona over three seasons.
 

 In that context, my image of the Sloan Sabbith character as spiritual teacher 
made me laugh, while also thinking "that would be interesting if not awesome". 
 That is, highly knowledgeable, trained and experienced in spiritual 
matters/practices -- yet aware of her short comings in other areas. Instead of 
trying to fake it, just being upfront, clumsy, admittedly out of her league, 
yet progressively using her skills and smarts to keep digging into the new 
area, not afraid to fall and laugh at herself in front of students, and over 
time, nailing that particular area of mundane knowledge.  .
 

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Why don't you stop being such a negative troublemaker and start a conversation 
here like the rest of us? I get it, you don't like my posts. The place is not 
gunna shut down because the world does not revolve around you. Post here, post 
there, but for the love of the infant baby Jesus trying to swallow some 
Frankincense and Myrrh in his little cradleyou are harshing the buzz here 
with your negativity toward our free speech.

I get it why you didn't just disappear with the rest of them. You thrive on 
conflict while maintaining the duplicitous appearance of being a peacemaker. 
You are addicted to the drama of conflict so you keep scratching on the 
blackboard till someone has had enough of your whining and complaining.

And then you get a reaction. Did you get your thrill? 

Now excuse me cuz I've got a choking savior on my hands with a bunch of 
superstitious Mid-Easterners standing around who think he is speaking in 
tongues.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dear Rick, Yes host an extended period of FFL silence. Do let there be Silence 
until 12 January on FFL. At the least. Thence in coming out of such reforming 
silence have FairfieldLife join unto that traditional day of January 12th.
You know, that time within the old meditating community of renewed 
spirituality, vitality, clarity and thence more life-supporting activity as 
then coming out of silence. 
 -The FFL Patriarch of Peace and Heaven on Earth, Buck in the Dome

 

 Dear Rick, towards administratively enforcing a No-fly Zone over the posting 
of unkindness on FFL, it is an excellent time right now given the course of 
events to plan and start such a counter-attack so as to take back our branding 
of FairfieldLife once again by first dis-engaging the unkindness that gets 
posted here and letting those people so inclined to re-pattern their lives 
otherwise in reformative silence for a period of time.   



 Rick there is a chance present here, a fine opportunity now to take back FFL 
and recapture its franchise, the Brand of FFL from the unkindness that has 
swept over the forum. “Now is the Winter of Dis-content.” Make it ours again, a 
free and open forum again reserved and preserved as a place for kind 
thoughtfulness. It is time to have a strict No-fly Zone over FFL at 
Yahoo-groups. Let FFL go silent for a time. Give it a fallow rest.  
 -Buck



 A winter break, imposing a No-Fly-Zone over FFL. This would be a kindness.  
Rick, take and assume a moral leadership and set direction in executive action 
on this now as timely initiative in the re-alignment of FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups with Yahoo-groups guidelines. 
  Sincerely, -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife  



 Dear Rick; 
 21 December coming is the first day of Winter. Let it be the first day of 
Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. It [the first day of Winter] should be 
a good day to begin a dormancy on FFL, a winter's hibernation, a negotiating 
planned disengagement of the culture of unkindness that has unbecome 
FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  Sincere regards, -Buck


 Dear Rick, Asserting and instilling a period like a seasonal silence over FFL 
as a gesture would place more of a firm grip as moral leadership towards 
reforming the general unkindness that spread across FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL 
even unto first day of Spring [March 20th 2015] whence fairer flowers springing 
might arise anew coming out of such reformative depth as a reflective period so 
imposed administratively as a reflective moral silence of a long and silent 
communal FFL winter.  -Buck in Fairfield  


  Rick, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL even 
unto the first day of Spring. [March 20th 2015]



 Dear Rick, Instilling an administrative no-fly zone of silence over 
FairfieldLife as a means of disengagement would be important moral leadership 
in changing the manifest wreckage of unkind tone that this battlefield of FFL 
has become. It is time to clear the FFL field spiritually. 
 I would support you in this, 
  -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  



 Yep silence FFL, suspend it, unto Easter Sunday [April 5, 2015] symbolic to 
the resurrection of something anew and a new hope in the community that was FFL.


 Dear Rick,  
 How about we take, at the least, the rest of the month of December and suspend 
all posting at all to FFL? Start then with a kinder more gentle FFL anew with 
posting on January 1st. Take some time off to re-group.
 -Buck  
 



 Rick, we know and understand that you are busy however; have you been reading 
any of the posts to FFL?


 Rick, Just scroll down through the subject lines if you don't have time to 
read the posts, they are appalling. -Buck


 Rick, the neganauts here are playing you now to see how far they can take it.

 Dear Rick, As an old Friend You see I really don't feel that you should

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

[seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

S: Curtis, thanks for the great reply. I would enjoy continuing the discussion 
-- tho there may be gaps in response some times as both life and brain freeze 
intervene.  

Some initial thoughts on your responses 
 

 C: The only thing I could add is that the creativity within scientific 
frameworks seems different from many other types of creativity in that it 
exists within the traditions of carefully tested boundaries that have been 
supported by evidence. ... One has constraints that the new insight must also 
account for what has come before.
 

 S: I understand. And the direction of research, appears be further 
focussed/constrained by the interest (and whims) of department/lab heads, profs 
and researchers with with large grants, the probability of publication, the 
current trendiness of current lines of research favored by target journals, the 
likelihood the research and paper(s) will generate lots of cites, availability 
of grad-student and post-docs with sufficient background in the target area of 
research to do the actual grunt work, availability of suitable experimental 
subjects, etc. On the other hand,  I talked a lot this summer to a grad student 
completing her research for her doctorate and she responded to a line of 
questioning that, "sure, if you bring your own grant or other funding to the 
table, you have a lot more freedom to define the direction of your research."  
 

 C: So the channel for something new added has a context that is lacking in 
creative literature for example. Although some of the processes are parallel, 
the conditions for manifesting them are radically different. ... This [ 
accounting for what has come before] is lacking in most revelations from God in 
my experience. And the end claim is radically different in what the claim is 
based on, but you will get into that more below.
 

 S:  While literature and the arts broadly defined have less constraints on the 
range an scope of areas to explore compared to scientific research, from what I 
observe and hear (and I am pretty far removed from the arts), artists and 
writers still have internal concerns and external pressures regarding whether 
they are pursuing work that is derivative vs  a new original direction. And 
beyond the self-produced smaller scale, upload-it-to-my-blog or youtube-artists 
(which are great outlets),  funding, marketability, reputation and career 
direction appear to be constraints on direction of creative exploration.
 

 C; And here I would add that there are many different appropriate 
epistemological systems within the scope of human knowledge. I am not a slave 
to science in that I love the humanities and arts and consider their approach 
valid in another way as a means to "validate" knowledge. 
 

 S: I view the arts more as  wonderful source to generate new hypothesis. That 
is, for example, a good film may present issues that trigger insights, new 
perspectives and questions. However, they generally don't provide a strong 
basis to validate such. Rather, I may walk away with new hypotheses (such a 
formal word and not one I generally use in daily life, but is a good 
generalized term that applies across the wide territory of issues that we are 
discussing) that I may then to take out for a test drive, apply in life, and 
see if it has juice (or wings). Though even there, typically this is not a 
strong level validation -- more "well this [view, framework, inspiration, 
motivation] seems to be useful for now". 
 

 C: It is less rigorous but that is appropriate for the complexity of the 
subject matter. But what they share with science is a commitment to at least a 
discussion for what would be good reasons to support a POV. I just heard on NPR 
today that a journalist should think of the toughest argument against whatever 
they are proposing and show step by step how they get around each objection. It 
sounded like such a good model and is almost the exact opposite of the touchy 
sensibilities of most spiritual groups who frame all opposition as negativity. 
 

 S: Journalistic processes and standards for validating knowledge are, for me, 
good reminders of the traps and pitfalls of "Fast Mind" (per Kahneman) 
judgements. Thats one reason I like the Newsroom (HBO). Crap, I would have 
internally OKed a conclusion about the Sarin Gas validity (Season 2), way 
before ACN did. Yet even hard core journalism get it wrong a lot of times. And 
ultimately journalism across all media is generally driven by pleasing 
investors, advertisers, market niches quite beyond mine, etc. 
 

 Beyond journalism, the legal system has its criteria of evidence and due 
process, etc. that can provide some insights applicable to validation of 
personal level hypothesis. Many (if not most) careers involve making a clear, 
defensible argument in one form or another. I have learned a lot observing 
smart people "making a case" in a variety of situations and issues. And 
sustained career feedback regard

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    Barry must be your guru because I have never seen such devotion since 
Maharishi died.

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   Skipping the WeeWilly content and just going for the good part, isn't this 
just The Creepiest Song Ever Written once you choose to see it that way? 

I have seen it effectively used on TV shows in exactly that context, as the 
soundtrack for a stalker.  



  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dear Rick, Yes host an extended period of FFL silence. Do let there be Silence 
until 12 January on FFL. At the least. Thence in coming out of such reforming 
silence have FairfieldLife join unto that traditional day of January 12th.
You know, that time within the old meditating community of renewed 
spirituality, vitality, clarity and thence more life-supporting activity as 
then coming out of silence. 
 -The FFL Patriarch of Peace and Heaven on Earth, Buck in the Dome

 

 Dear Rick, towards administratively enforcing a No-fly Zone over the posting 
of unkindness on FFL, it is an excellent time right now given the course of 
events to plan and start such a counter-attack so as to take back our branding 
of FairfieldLife once again by first dis-engaging the unkindness that gets 
posted here and letting those people so inclined to re-pattern their lives 
otherwise in reformative silence for a period of time.   



 Rick there is a chance present here, a fine opportunity now to take back FFL 
and recapture its franchise, the Brand of FFL from the unkindness that has 
swept over the forum. “Now is the Winter of Dis-content.” Make it ours again, a 
free and open forum again reserved and preserved as a place for kind 
thoughtfulness. It is time to have a strict No-fly Zone over FFL at 
Yahoo-groups. Let FFL go silent for a time. Give it a fallow rest.  
 -Buck



 A winter break, imposing a No-Fly-Zone over FFL. This would be a kindness.  
Rick, take and assume a moral leadership and set direction in executive action 
on this now as timely initiative in the re-alignment of FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups with Yahoo-groups guidelines. 
  Sincerely, -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife  



 Dear Rick; 
 21 December coming is the first day of Winter. Let it be the first day of 
Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. It [the first day of Winter] should be 
a good day to begin a dormancy on FFL, a winter's hibernation, a negotiating 
planned disengagement of the culture of unkindness that has unbecome 
FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  Sincere regards, -Buck


 Dear Rick, Asserting and instilling a period like a seasonal silence over FFL 
as a gesture would place more of a firm grip as moral leadership towards 
reforming the general unkindness that spread across FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL 
even unto first day of Spring [March 20th 2015] whence fairer flowers springing 
might arise anew coming out of such reformative depth as a reflective period so 
imposed administratively as a reflective moral silence of a long and silent 
communal FFL winter.  -Buck in Fairfield  


  Rick, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL even 
unto the first day of Spring. [March 20th 2015]



 Dear Rick, Instilling an administrative no-fly zone of silence over 
FairfieldLife as a means of disengagement would be important moral leadership 
in changing the manifest wreckage of unkind tone that this battlefield of FFL 
has become. It is time to clear the FFL field spiritually. 
 I would support you in this, 
  -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  



 Yep silence FFL, suspend it, unto Easter Sunday [April 5, 2015] symbolic to 
the resurrection of something anew and a new hope in the community that was FFL.


 Dear Rick,  
 How about we take, at the least, the rest of the month of December and suspend 
all posting at all to FFL? Start then with a kinder more gentle FFL anew with 
posting on January 1st. Take some time off to re-group.
 -Buck  
 



 Rick, we know and understand that you are busy however; have you been reading 
any of the posts to FFL?


 Rick, Just scroll down through the subject lines if you don't have time to 
read the posts, they are appalling. -Buck


 Rick, the neganauts here are playing you now to see how far they can take it.

 Dear Rick, As an old Friend You see I really don't feel that you should yield 
FairfieldLife over to the methodical negativity that has overrun and overtaken 
our FairfieldLife [FFL] community on Yahoo-groups.  Sincerely, -Buck

 Rick, FairfieldLife [FFL] has been way too important to communal Fairfield 
life in the past to just let it go to the aggressive dogs of unkind negativity 
as some mean and now narrowed successor group caliphate of hateful neganauts.

The larger communal use of FFL that FFL could facilitate in communication:

 Rick, for instance this FFL post is an incredibly important post within the 
things going on right now in the Fairfield meditating community: 404986Re: FW: 
A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of 
Othershttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/404986
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/404986 
 


 Rick,  Could reading the old FFL posts be kept open to scholarship 
 whilst the posting function for everyone could be suspended?
  
  Like, being a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Barry must be your guru because I have never seen such devotion since 
Maharishi died.

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 12/10/2014 10:18 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
 >
 
 I think it means that you are looking for a little drama today.
 >
 What's wrong with a little drama? Just because Barry called Share a "drama 
queen" doesn't mean that Share is a bad person, Curtis. It is kind of funny 
though that Barry stalked her over to The Peak to see if she said anything 
about him. 
 
 Another thing that's funny is that Buck and I seem to be the only ones left 
that want to discuss Barry's police hoax. So, Barry wins the religious debate - 
he owns this forum and you're his backup. Go figure.
 >
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!

 
 

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 10:18 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>

I think it means that you are looking for a little drama today.

>
What's wrong with a little drama? Just because Barry called Share a 
"drama queen" doesn't mean that Share is a bad person, Curtis. It is 
kind of funny though that Barry stalked her over to The Peak to see if 
she said anything about him.


Another thing that's funny is that Buck and I seem to be the only ones 
left that want to discuss Barry's police hoax. So, Barry wins the 
religious debate - he owns this forum and you're his backup. Go figure.

>




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all 
on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! 
LOL! It's gotta mean something!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Notice that Willy dashed right over there when it started and posted all 
of two posts and that was it.  Must've not found any walls to scrawl his 
graffiti on. :-D


On 12/10/2014 07:41 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:23 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all 
on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! 
LOL! It's gotta mean something!


*/Not true. One quick search reveals that 'FFL' has been mentioned in 
39 out of 367 messages there, or over 10% of them.

/*
*/
/*
*/If no individual posters here on FFL are being mentioned, it "means" 
only that posters there afraid of being thrown off of their new "more 
free" forum. Because thinking what they do about the people they left 
behind, they can't write ANYTHING about them, because it would by 
definition be negative, and thus prohibited.

/*
*/
/*
*/Duh. I'm surprised you couldn't figure this out.
/*
*/
/*
*/Oh...wait...you *did* figure it out, and were just trying to create 
trouble and be negative over here, where you could get away with it. 
Never mind... /*





*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


*From:* "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?


*/You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by 
suggesting that Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to 
the fact that she joined the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's 
new Yahoo group "The_Peak."


Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)/*



In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:




Ah, I must have missed that post.


*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30,
2014 Lecture
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*MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email
from Judy saying: Don't worry.
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**From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30,
2014 Lecture
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*Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either
had a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I
remember correctly). Some of us were all hoping that Judy would
pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed
she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become dead, nor had any
kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.
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**From:* "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30,
2014 Lecture
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*Curtis!*
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*I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like
every 6 months or more.*
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*I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can
someone me the short story of what happened?*
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*More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the
30th, having been clued by several people that it was taking place.*
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*Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally
liked to poke in here. And now with your latest observations above
on MMY's early discourses, all I can say is bra

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 10:04 AM, jamesalan wrote:
>


Well, Share, I think that there are some reasonable explanations and 
also a few other aspects you didn't mention when one digs a little 
deeper


Most of the people in The Peak left here because they were not happy 
here and have moved on. They don't feel the need to look back. Good 
for them. Some of The Peak members left a residue of bad feeling here, 
and so it is not surprising that they are mentioned on FFL now and 
again. I expect that this will die down over time.



>
Thanks for contributing, James, but one thing you failed to mention is 
that Barry called in the law, over a button-pushing contest that he 
himself started. Nobody is going to want to debate anything seriously on 
FFL anymore with a threat like that hanging over the forum. Never mind 
that the incident was a hoax and Barry never called the police at all. 
It was a power play to the max by Barry, but nobody here wants to 
discuss it. Go figure.


Most of the remaining FFL members just go on enabling Barry to post 
stuff he makes up and to make light of the fact that he is in fact, an 
informant, reporting to the lurking reporters. The question is - why? It 
doesn't even make any sense - /Barry is the cultist! /Barry threw 
everyone under the bus including his own teachers, just to win a 
religious debate and make himself look big and powerful.


Where is Judy when we need her?
>


Something that you didn't mention is that a few people maintain a 
presence in both groups, and only two of these people has attempted to 
bring over something of FFL to The Peak, but nobody there took the bait.


Buck continues to post his tantrums here almost daily, but in his 
posts on the Peak does not do so, except once when he referred to FFL 
in somewhat negative way. Since nobody on The Peak followed up on his 
FFL reference, his remark was left to die, so to speak.


You have also attempted to bring over a topic from FFL to The Peak, 
and nobody took you up on this, so your remark was also left to die on 
the vine.


Now, that's gotta mean something as well.


>
What it means is that Share simply wants to be friends with almost 
everyone and for everyone to get along. She didn't come here to FFL or 
to go The Peak with an agenda - some people just feel better when they 
have someone to talk to. It's not complicated.

>






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all 
on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! 
LOL! It's gotta mean something!



*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


*From:* "WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?


*/You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by 
suggesting that Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to 
the fact that she joined the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's 
new Yahoo group "The_Peak."


Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)/*



In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:




Ah, I must have missed that post.


*From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"

*Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November
30, 2014 Lecture
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*MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an
email from Judy saying: Don't worry.
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**From:* "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"

*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November
30, 2014 Lecture
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*Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had
either had a bad accident involving her legs or she had become
dead (if I remember correctly). Some of us w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
   Great post. Here was the idea in it I would like to riff on.
States of mind to enhance enjoyment when listening:

Reggae      weedIn particular, Jamaican Ganja. I never understood where that 
slow, thumga-thumga rhythm came from until I tried some. It's not that they 
were trying to play slow...it was that they *couldn't* play fast. The rhythm 
you hear behind Bob Marley songs like "One Love" is him and the Wailers playing 
as fast as they can, man.  :-)
Blues   One Bourbon, One Scotch and one BeerYup. 
Early Beatles       pubescent hysteria
Sargent Pepper and Hendrix       AcidAbsolutely, for both Beatles eras, and 
Jimi. Especially "Revolver" and "Electric Ladyland." 
Disco      Coke (sniff sniff) and vodkaNever did either drug -- coke or disco.  
:-)
George Michael       Hanging out in public restrooms 
Never indulged in either of these vices, either. :-) 
Punk  beer and pissMissed punk entirely, almost certainly because I was 
involved in one cult or the other. 
Goth and Emo    Jaeger
Grunge   Heroin 
Missed all of this music, too. And heroin would never have been my scene. 
Closest I ever came was smoking some opium once. I sat and stared at a wall for 
half an hour. I wasn't even *interested* in the wall; I was just staring. So 
NOT my kinda drug...I liked happy hallucinogens. 
Speed metal   methNever was much into speed of any kind, thank the 
gods-who-don't-really-exist-except-when-we-feel-the-need-to-thank-someone.
Country music   American beer god dammitIn bottles, so you can throw them at 
the chicken-wire-protected stage after you've finished them. 
Irish music  Guinness and BushmillsAbsolutely. With a redhead on each arm. 
Jazz       martinis 
Back in the day, I actually tried going to a couple of San Francisco jazz clubs 
on acid. It was a surreal experience, especially when going to see Sun Ra, who 
claimed to have been from Saturn. On acid, you could easily admit that 
possibility.  :-)
Brazilian Jazz ChaiparinasWith a thong-wearing beach girl on each arm.
All Jam bands  ShroomsSame for the Grateful Dead. Despite their rep, they 
were better on shrooms than acid. 
Moroccan music    KhatFamiliar with the music, but not the plant. If I were to 
go back to Morocco today, I'd probably be listening to music after a bowl or 
two of the King of Morocco's favorite hash. 
Beat poets     coffee 
Which is why so many of them later got into speed.
Steel drums   rumOr Jamaican Ganja. See above. 
Maharishi tapes    long rounding buzzAbsolutely. On any time-expanding drug it 
would be horrifically boring. On alcohol you'd fall asleep within seconds. 
Worst of all would be trying to do it sober. :-)

I could have spent the rest of the day on this list! 



  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Two words?  That does suggest something.

On 12/10/2014 05:10 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from 
Judy saying: Don't worry.



*From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 
Lecture


Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had 
a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I 
remember correctly). Some of us were all hoping that Judy would pop up 
to prove what bs jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed she knew 
for a fact that Judy had neither become dead, nor had any kind of 
accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she herself is no 
longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.





*From:* "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 
Lecture


Curtis!

I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 
6 months or more.


I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can 
someone me the short story of what happened?


More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 
30th, having been clued by several people that it was taking place.


Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to 
poke in here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's 
early discourses, all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the 
head.


Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 9:55 AM, Share Long wrote:
>
Richard, I simply meant that even people outside of "spiritual" 
communities know the popular phrase what goes around comes around.

>
Of course, everyone knows that - it's written in the Bible. It's just 
that we can't fully understand using the intellect how bad people don't 
always get punished and sometimes the good people have to suffer. Also, 
if we accept the law of karma there would be no exceptions - no free will.


Personally, I accept the law of cause and effect and the law of karma 
and purposely don't go around doing bad things. The key to the law of 
karma is to do good things without expecting anything in return - that's 
Karma Yoga. Do good for the benefit of all but do not be attached to the 
fruits of your actions. I simply believe in Life - what it does to you, 
and what you do back. It's not complicated.


/"Unfathomable are the laws of karma!"/
>



*From:* "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru 
the world has ever known


On 12/9/2014 11:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
>
For those who don't like the word karma, there's always the popular 
phrase: what goes around comes around (-:

>
Indeed, Share. For those that don't like the word /"karma"/ there is 
always the phrase /"cause and effect"./ Or, put more simply, 
/"Causation or Causality"/ or for those who don't even understand 
this, there is always - /"one thing leads to another."/


The question then arises: Is their also a moral reciprocity?

According to Georg Fuerstien, /"India's sages assure us that this law 
applies with equal force in the realm of the mind to our thoughts and 
volition."/ But, because science looks only at the material realm, it 
fails to appreciate the comprehensive nature of causation and 
therefore also allows for meaningless chance events.


The Causal Nexus is the root of our limited and limiting experience of 
space and time As simple as this view seems to be, it is at the same 
time, very deep and subtle. Not easily understood by the un-reflective 
individual who only makes comments without thinking them through. Go 
figure.

>



*From:* "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:16 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the 
world has ever known


On 12/9/2014 6:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
 I don't buy the existence of karma itself. It started with the 
ancient Indians and spread from there to China and Japan via Buddhism.

>
/What happens when you drop a big rock on your toe? All things fall 
down because gravity sucks. Maybe you failed to think this thought 
before hitting the Send key./

>
I mean, if this is the reality of life, how come only the ancient 
Hindus figured it out? Because they lived in the land of the veda? 
All the other ancient civilizations too stupid to figure it out?

>
The Vedas were composed long after the theory of karma was first 
formulated. The realization that a big rock falling on your toe is 
hurtful was probably figured out long before the Stone Age.

>

Nope, its just some more bullshit made up by those ganja smokers

>
Non sequitur.
>
in the woods who claimed enlightenment. What better way to control 
the population than to tell them that all sorts of awful things 
would happen to you in an infinite number of lives if you didn't 
grease the palms of the priests so they would do the ceremonies to 
placate the gods and the gods of karma?

>
You neglected to define "karma" and so you have committed a formal 
fallacy of deductive reasoning. You have failed to follow the rules 
of logic that guarantee a true conclusion follows given the truth of 
the premises." Therefore you have determined your own argument to be 
invalid."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_fallacy
>
There are a few people like Michael Roads and Anita Moorjani who 
either leave their body or have some sort of visions where they see 
that all is just fine with all the shit that happens all over the 
earth - no karma, no judgment on the part of the Universe towards 
any of the awful things humans do. Not that they necessarily have a 
lock on truth, but it is an interesting differing perspective.

>
Non sequitur.
>
The current popular belief in karma and its originating culture is 
due to the ravings of proven huckster Helena Blavatsky who 
popularized Hindu beliefs in the 1800's that carried over into the 
20th century through her outfit The Theosophical Society and the 
bullshit writings of her compatriots Annie Besant 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I forget james. What did I migrate there? I guess it all means something!

  From: "jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    Well, Share, I think that there are some reasonable explanations and also a 
few other aspects you didn't mention when one digs a little deeper

Most of the people in The Peak left here because they were not happy here and 
have moved on. They don't feel the need to look back. Good for them. Some of 
The Peak members left a residue of bad feeling here, and so it is not 
surprising that they are mentioned on FFL now and again. I expect that this 
will die down over time. 

Something that you didn't mention is that a few people maintain a presence in 
both groups, and only two of these people has attempted to bring over something 
of FFL to The Peak, but nobody there took the bait. 

Buck continues to post his tantrums here almost daily, but in his posts on the 
Peak does not do so, except once when he referred to FFL in somewhat negative 
way. Since nobody on The Peak followed up on his FFL reference, his remark was 
left to die, so to speak. 

You have also attempted to bring over a topic from FFL to The Peak, and nobody 
took you up on this, so your remark was also left to die on the vine. 

Now, that's gotta mean something as well.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 From: "WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 

In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard 
Time,FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:



Ah,I must have missed that post. 

From: "Share Long sharelong60@...[FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 20148:10 AM
Subject: Re:[FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014Lecture

 MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said thatshe received an email from Judy 
saying: Don't worry.



From: "MichaelJackson mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52AM
Subject: Re:[FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 Jr claimed thataccording to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involvingher legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were allhoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did.Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had anykind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is nolonger living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.



[Unable to display image]From:"geezerfreak@... 
[FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday,December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GeorgeHammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 Curtis!
I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6months 
or more.
I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someoneme the 
short story of what happened?
More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th,having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked topoke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's earlydiscourses, all 
I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brotherCurtis?











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

How about turq? 

  From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    

I think it means that you are looking for a little drama today.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 From: "WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 

In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard 
Time,FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:



Ah,I must have missed that post. 

From: "Share Long sharelong60@...[FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 20148:10 AM
Subject: Re:[FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014Lecture

 MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said thatshe received an email from Judy 
saying: Don't worry.



From: "MichaelJackson mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52AM
Subject: Re:[FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 Jr claimed thataccording to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involvingher legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were allhoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did.Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had anykind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is nolonger living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.



[Unable to display image]From:"geezerfreak@... 
[FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday,December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GeorgeHammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 Curtis!
I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6months 
or more.
I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someoneme the 
short story of what happened?
More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th,having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked topoke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's earlydiscourses, all 
I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brotherCurtis?











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 9:52 AM, Share Long wrote:
>
turq, I think you're wrong on two counts: that they would write only 
negative stuff about FFLers; and that they're not writing negative 
stuff out of fear. I think they're just getting on with creating what 
they prefer.

>
Apparently Barry just can't help himself, Share, he makes up stuff all 
the time. That's why Judy called him a liar and a poser, I guess. If 
there's one thing I have learned on FFL - don't mess with Judy, Ann or 
Raunchy!


Since Jim formed The_Peak, Barry has been almost obsessed talking about 
the The Peakers on Yahoo Groups. He just can't seem to understand that 
everyone felt insulted when he called in the law over a silly 
button-pushing contest, that he started and fed into.


I honestly don't know why he would even show his face around here after 
pulling off an informant trick like that. Barry committed one of the 
cardinal sins of netiquette on discussion groups by calling in the Dutch 
police and putting Raunchy of the Interpol "Watch List.". I used to like 
some of the things he wrote, but now I don't like even his face.


I think he was really surprised when they went over to the other side - 
now he's got nobody to talk to, so he is left to lurk over there in 
hopes of learning something he can report to the the lurking reporters. LoL!


In many ways Barry has turned out to be a really big disappointment for 
me  - back in 1999 I was one of his biggest fans and I even took up for 
him a few times when he got beat up real bad by Andrew Skolnick. But 
over the years he's actually turned out to be his own double-mirror. 
He's got about zero credibility in the realm of mysticism anymore, when 
at one time he described himself as a an actual mystic - full of wonder.


These days he just seems to be old and cranky, posting the same comments 
over and over and over. He doesn't seem to have progressed on the 
spiritual path at all - in fact, he's even gone backwards - to framing 
himself as a rank materialist and a nihilist, who doesn't believe in 
anything and seems to think nothing can be known beyond sense perception.


It looks like Barry wants to continue the "gawdawful" squabbling - he's 
not even happy to get rid of Judy - he wants all of us to go away and 
stop picking on him - he sounds scared and insecure in his old age. Go 
figure.


Apparently Barry didn't even read the memo from Alex:

/"Indeed! And, the real problem is that there were two factions on FFL 
who simply didn't belong on the same forum. One faction has departed, 
and the gawdawful squabbling has ceased. As far as I'm concerned, the 
situation has successfully resolved itself."/ - Alex Stanley

>



*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:23 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all 
on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! 
LOL! It's gotta mean something!


*/Not true. One quick search reveals that 'FFL' has been mentioned in 
39 out of 367 messages there, or over 10% of them.

/*
*/
/*
*/If no individual posters here on FFL are being mentioned, it "means" 
only that posters there afraid of being thrown off of their new "more 
free" forum. Because thinking what they do about the people they left 
behind, they can't write ANYTHING about them, because it would by 
definition be negative, and thus prohibited.

/*
*/
/*
*/Duh. I'm surprised you couldn't figure this out.
/*
*/
/*
*/Oh...wait...you *did* figure it out, and were just trying to create 
trouble and be negative over here, where you could get away with it. 
Never mind... /*





*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


*From:* "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?


*/You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by 
suggesting that Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to 
the fact that she joined the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's 
new Yahoo group "The_Peak."


Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)/*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 
Great post. Here was the idea in it I would like to riff on.
States of mind to enhance enjoyment when listening:

Reggae  weed
Blues   One Bourbon, One Scotch and one Beer
Early Beatles   pubescent hysteria
Sargent Pepper and Hendrix   Acid
Disco  Coke (sniff sniff) and vodka
George Michael   Hanging out in public restrooms 
Punk  beer and piss
Goth and EmoJaeger
Grunge   Heroin 
Speed metal   meth
Country music   American beer god dammit
Irish music  Guinness and Bushmills
Jazz   martinis 
Brazilian Jazz Chaiparinas
All Jam bands  Shrooms
Moroccan musicKhat
Beat poets coffee 
Steel drums   rum

Maharishi tapeslong rounding buzz

I could have spent the rest of the day on this list! 






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 Officially it never would have happened. I had a hook up on the library staff 
and these were transcripts that were under official radar.  It helped me 
understand the different eras of Maharishi's presentation better both in the 
movement and now that I am out. He was a guy who learned as he went along and 
adjusted. His message changed considerably through the years. 

 I think in some ways he was just entertaining the people on those early 
courses with his wild stories. Think about the pressure of keeping so many 
foreigners engaged for hours when he had never been a scholar himself. 

 

 This corresponds to my first experience of seeing him have to fill time (6-10 
hours of talks a day for a month) at Squaw Valley in 1968. Before that, I had 
only seen him "perform" in short bursts, which he was always able to steer back 
to his (by then) well-practiced intro lecture. But at Squaw Valley he had 
several hundred people sitting in a room, and he had to find ways to entertain 
them. So he'd drag out (in my opinion) a lot of Other People's Stories and tell 
them as if they were his. 

 

 The most egregious examples of this were when he'd open the microphone to 
questions, and people would ask him about other spiritual paths and other 
spiritual teachers he knew nothing about. At least twice I saw/heard him say 
things that were *completely* wrong, 180 degrees opposite from what the 
organization believed and that the teacher taught. To this day I don't know 
whether he just made this shit up, or had heard it from someone who was also 
making it up, like Charlie Lutes. 
 

 His duties around Guru Dev were not intellectual ones, he was an advance man 
and communications department. So he told stories from every source he could 
remember or dig up to create the impression that he knew about everything. 
Later he had Vedic pundits some in to occupy the time.They would jabber for a 
while and then he would declare that they were saying that transcending was 
blah bah blah.

 One very curious thing about the movement is how cagy they are about this era 
of his teaching. It goes so counter to the image of who he is that they 
promote. If this guy was really the most important thinker in modern times 
wouldn't it be imperative to get everything he ever said out?
 

 When I worked for the Regional Office in L.A., I was "in charge of the tapes." 
All of them. Unfortunately, during the period I worked there, that meant that 
not only was I in charge of boxing them up and sending them to the teachers who 
were scheduled to teach one of our residence courses, about twice a month I was 
in charge of boxing up the tapes that Seelisberg had *demanded be returned to 
them* to take them out of circulation. Several times during this period I was 
told to write to all TM teachers in the Western Region and demand that *they* 
send back any "unauthorized tapes" in their possession. 

 

 The impetus for this -- at that time -- was clearly legal. The American TMO 
was still claiming its practices weren't religious in nature, but there were 
*dozens* of tapes out there in which Maharishi himself exhibited exactly *how* 
religious it was. 

 

Interesting, isn't it? The most important thinker in modern times and people, 
even devout believers have so little access to the thousands of hours of his 
teaching. And with today's random access it would be so easy to get it all 
online and indexed for people to be "enriched" by his profound words.

 But his words are hidden because the image is more important than the message. 
It always has been. I believe it is one of the biggest indictment of the 
movement that they have treated his teaching as if no one is trusted to know 
what it is in its completeness. It is as if they know people would realized 
that there is no there, there! 

 

 I completely agree. I honestly think that if most people on this forum were 
forced to go back and listen to a few hours of what *in their minds and 
memories* they consider "Maharishi's Greatest Hits," they'd be shocked to 
discover how repetitive and inane they were, and how little was actually said. 
This is j

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Share wrote:
>**
What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all 
on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! 
LOL! It's gotta mean something!

>
On 12/10/2014 9:41 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
>
*/Not true. One quick search reveals that 'FFL' has been mentioned in 
39 out of 367 messages there, or over 10% of them.

/*

>
Now this is really funny - Barry stalked Ann, Share and Jim over to The 
_Peak and lurked around to see if anyone was saying anything about him. 
/Who said Barry was obsessed and jealous of Jim?/ LoL!


Message to Barry:

BARRY WRIGHT WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO POST A SINGLE WORD TO THE PEAK 
BECAUSE HE IS A LURKING REPORTER AND A LYING TROLL FINK.

>/*
*/
*/If no individual posters here on FFL are being mentioned, it "means" 
only that posters there afraid of being thrown off of their new "more 
free" forum. Because thinking what they do about the people they left 
behind, they can't write ANYTHING about them, because it would by 
definition be negative, and thus prohibited.

/*
*/
/*
*/Duh. I'm surprised you couldn't figure this out.
/*
*/
/*
*/Oh...wait...you *did* figure it out, and were just trying to create 
trouble and be negative over here, where you could get away with it. 
Never mind... /*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 
I think it means that you are looking for a little drama today.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!
 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 
   
 From: "WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 
   
 Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?
 
 

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 


 
 In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:
 

 Ah, I must have missed that post. 
 

 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 
   
 MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from Judy 
saying: Don't worry.
 

 


 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 
   
 Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were all hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.

 

 


 [Unable to display image] From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 
   Curtis!
 

 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
 

 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
 

 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
 

 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
 

 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?

 












 


 











 


 







 












 


 

[FairfieldLife] The Peak, was what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 9:23 AM, Share Long wrote:
>
What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all 
on the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! 
LOL! It's gotta mean something!

>
/This is funny, Share - maybe about 100 times so far! And, at least 4 of 
the current informants on FFL have apparently stalked them over there 
and lurked around to see if anyone was talking about them (they know who 
they are).


What it means is that now the FFL informants don't have much of an 
audience anymore - now they are mostly preaching to the choir. I mean, 
let's face it, without Judy or Jim or Ann, who is Barry going to attack 
- Curtis? Go figure./

>



*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


*From:* "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain 
Top Mean?


Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?


*/You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by 
suggesting that Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to 
the fact that she joined the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's 
new Yahoo group "The_Peak."


Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)/*



In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:




Ah, I must have missed that post.


*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30,
2014 Lecture
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**From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30,
2014 Lecture
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*Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either
had a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I
remember correctly). Some of us were all hoping that Judy would
pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed
she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become dead, nor had any
kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.
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**From:* "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30,
2014 Lecture
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*I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can
someone me the short story of what happened?*
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*More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the
30th, having been clued by several people that it was taking place.*
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*Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally
liked to poke in here. And now with your latest observations above
on MMY's early discourses, all I can say is bravo and nail hit
squarely on the head.*
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Hey Geezer,

Great to hear from you and thanks for the high five on my on the spot reporting 
about the message from Maharishi Zombie! I mostly went to say hi to Jerry but 
it was fascinating wasn't it? I don't think it will cause the movement much 
trouble but if the content had been a bit more revelatory it might have rocked 
their world. I hate to hand it to Hagelin but he kinda summed it up best when 
he said that when he talked with George his message from Maharishi sounded more 
like George than Maharishi. I never heard Maharishi use driving a car with a 
bunch of kids on vacation analogies before!

This place has lightened up considerably. First Judy just went MIA with no 
explanation. One of her buddies said that she checked in with her and her 
response was "Don't worry." Personally I find that odd since they were chummy 
here. It would be like you and I checking in with each other after going 
missing and one of us saying, "Don't worry." It is too incomplete to be a 
response to friendly concern. Whatever happened, it changed the dynamic here 
considerably.

Then there was a period of extreme escalation of the get Barry committee that 
ended in some rank bullshittery which resolved itself by the offenders creating 
their own place. It has turned this place into a really fun place to post and 
brought some intelligent lurkers out to share ideas without the ad hominem fest 
that those now gone were so fond of. I hope you will consider posting yourself 
just to experience how different the place is. What I write is not followed by 
many attack posts ending with "and your music sucks too!"

Speaking of music I have been on a fascinating journey tracing blues influences 
back through specific tribes in Africa through the Caribbean. Did you know that 
about a quarter of US slaves were Muslims? It influenced our blues 
considerably. In Catholic Cuba they wouldn't buy any Muslim slaves so their 
music was influenced by completely different tribes from Central and East, 
rather than West Africa. I just bought a 3 string Bass lute like the Gnawa 
people play in Morocco called a guembri. The gnawa people were the slaves 
brought to Morocco from West Africa like Mali. Here is a guy playing Hedrix on 
one: Hendrix with the Guimbri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bAIb9v7kY



 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bAIb9v7kY 
 
 Hendrix with the Guimbri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bAIb9v7kY Amazigh 
KatebがWarでグナワ曲ではあまりないG音の位置を使っているのから勇気が出てこんなことを。I know this is NOT an authentic 
way of playing it, let alone a ...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bAIb9v7kY 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  
 I am playing an RL Burnside song on mine, Like a Bird Without a Feather, I'm 
Lost Without Your Love.

I am working on my third CD finally and will let you know as soon as I get it 
together. I've been so busy with school show work that it delayed me getting it 
out but it is all for the good. I continue to grow and incorporate more roots 
influences into my blues. Thanks so much for asking, it means a lot coming from 
you.

Let's continue this off line, more to tell.






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Curtis! 

 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
 

 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
 

 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
 

 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
 

 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Could it be the same Judy???

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 7:01 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
/Actually no. The rumor that Judy had cancer was started on Google 
Groups by Barry and was refuted by Judy way back in 1999. Besides, even 
if she did have cancer that would be irrelevant  to anything she posted 
to Google Groups of Yahoo Groups. Judy was not a big supporter of 
Maharishi Ayer-Veda.


The web site put up by Andrew Skolnick was actually a fan-site - it is 
considered by internet nerds to be the highest compliment to copy and 
paste fragments out of context, but really it shows frustration at it's 
highest level and indicates that a debater is unable to win his argument 
by conventional debating tactics - it is really a confession of failure./

>
Judy Stein-Defender of the Faith Web Site 






Judy Stein-Defender of the Faith Web Site 

PHIL DONAHUE: I want you to meet Jane Doe, a cancer patient. Jane, 
that's-- JANE DOE: [unintelligible] PHIL DONAHUE: A former -- I am 
corrected, and I'm pleased to be so. What happened, Jane?


View on www.aaskolnick.com 



Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, Share, I think that there are some reasonable explanations and also a few 
other aspects you didn't mention when one digs a little deeper

Most of the people in The Peak left here because they were not happy here and 
have moved on. They don't feel the need to look back. Good for them. Some of 
The Peak members left a residue of bad feeling here, and so it is not 
surprising that they are mentioned on FFL now and again. I expect that this 
will die down over time. 

Something that you didn't mention is that a few people maintain a presence in 
both groups, and only two of these people has attempted to bring over something 
of FFL to The Peak, but nobody there took the bait. 

Buck continues to post his tantrums here almost daily, but in his posts on the 
Peak does not do so, except once when he referred to FFL in somewhat negative 
way. Since nobody on The Peak followed up on his FFL reference, his remark was 
left to die, so to speak. 

You have also attempted to bring over a topic from FFL to The Peak, and nobody 
took you up on this, so your remark was also left to die on the vine. 

Now, that's gotta mean something as well.


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!
 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 
   
 From: "WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
 
 
   
 Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?
 
 

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 


 
 In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:
 

 Ah, I must have missed that post. 
 

 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 
   
 MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from Judy 
saying: Don't worry.
 

 


 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 
   
 Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were all hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.

 

 


 [Unable to display image] From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

 
   Curtis!
 

 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
 

 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
 

 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
 

 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
 

 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?

 












 


 











 


 







 












 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Richard, I simply meant that even people outside of "spiritual" communities 
know the popular phrase what goes around comes around.  

  From: "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world 
has ever known
   
 On 12/9/2014 11:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
 >
  
    For those who don't like the word karma, there's always the popular phrase: 
what goes around comes around (-:
   
 >
 Indeed, Share. For those that don't like the word "karma" there is always the 
phrase "cause and effect". Or, put more simply, "Causation or Causality" or for 
those who don't even understand this, there is always - "one thing leads to 
another." 
 
 The question then arises: Is their also a moral reciprocity?
 
 According to Georg Fuerstien, "India's sages assure us that this law applies 
with equal force in the realm of the mind to our thoughts and volition." But, 
because science looks only at the material realm, it fails to appreciate the 
comprehensive nature of causation and therefore also allows for meaningless 
chance events. 
 
 The Causal Nexus is the root of our limited and limiting experience of space 
and time As simple as this view seems to be, it is at the same time, very deep 
and subtle. Not easily understood by the un-reflective individual who only 
makes comments without thinking them through. Go figure.
 >
 
  
  From: "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:16 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has 
ever known
   
      On 12/9/2014 6:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 >
  
      I don't buy the existence of karma itself. It started with the ancient 
Indians and spread from there to China and Japan via Buddhism. 

 >
 What happens when you drop a big rock on your toe? All things fall down 
because gravity  sucks. Maybe you failed to think this thought before hitting 
the Send key.
 >
 
 I mean, if this is the reality of life, how come only the  ancient Hindus 
figured it out? Because they lived in the land of the veda? All the other  
ancient civilizations too stupid to figure it out? 
 >
 The Vedas were composed long after the theory of karma was first formulated. 
The realization  that a big rock falling on your toe is hurtful was probably 
figured out long before the Stone Age.
 >
 
 Nope, its just some more bullshit made up by those ganja smokers 
 >
 Non sequitur. 
 >
 
  in the woods who claimed enlightenment. What better way  to control the 
population than to tell them that all sorts of awful things would happen to  
you in an infinite number of lives if you didn't grease the  palms of the 
priests so they would do the ceremonies to placate the gods and the gods  of 
karma? 
 >
 You neglected to define "karma" and so you have committed a formal fallacy of 
deductive reasoning.  You have failed to follow the rules of logic that 
guarantee a true conclusion follows given the truth of the premises." Therefore 
you have determined your own argument to be invalid."
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_fallacy
 >
 
 There are a few people like Michael Roads and Anita Moorjani who  either 
leave their body or have some sort of visions where they see that all is  just 
fine with all the shit that happens all over the earth - no karma, no judgment 
on the part of the Universe towards any of the awful  things humans do. Not 
that they necessarily have a lock on truth, but it is an interesting differing 
perspective. 
 >
 Non sequitur. 
 > 
 The current popular belief in karma and its originating  culture is due to 
the ravings of proven huckster Helena Blavatsky who popularized  Hindu beliefs 
in the 1800's that carried over into the 20th century through her outfit The 
Theosophical Society and the bullshit  writings of her compatriots Annie Besant 
and Alice Bailey. Not to mention the pedophile C.W. Leadbeater who created the 
myth of Maitreya now  perpetuated by that nice old faker Benjy Creme. 
 >
 Non sequitur. 
 > 
 Lie begets lie, and bs begets bs. Nope, I don't buy the  existence of 
karma. If it was real, I think others beside the Hindus and their  predecessors 
would have figured it out too. Given the sorry legacy India has so far offered 
the world (just look at the country today and don't  bother mentioning the 
mythical "vedic society" that liar Marshy used to blabber about) I don't think 
I am going to give much credence to anything  that country comes up with in 
terms of religion, philosophy or any sort of guidelines with which to live 
life. 
 >
 Non sequitur. 
 > 
 Can't wait for Buck to denounce me for this post.
  
 >
 Non sequitur. 
 >
 
 
   
 
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[FairfieldLife] TM in Context, was George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 3:05 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
>
*/This corresponds to my first experience of seeing him have to fill 
time (6-10 hours of talks a day for a month) at Squaw Valley in 1968./*

/*>*
Sorry, Barry, I'm just not buying this story. According to everybody 
I've ever talked to about the TTC Squaw Valley, and including numerous 
messages posted by John Manning, most of the day was spent rounding, 
with talks in the evening. If MMY was speaking "6-10 hours a day for a 
month" that hardly leaves time for much rounding. Go figure.*

*/>/*
*/
*/Before that, I had only seen him "perform" in short bursts, which he 
was always able to steer back to his (by then) well-practiced intro 
lecture. But at Squaw Valley he had several hundred people sitting in 
a room, and he had to find ways to entertain them. So he'd drag out 
(in my opinion) a lot of Other People's Stories and tell them as if 
they were his.

/*

/*>*
By the time of the Squaw Valley TTC MMY had already recorded numerous 
recordings and tapes for the SCI and written two books which pretty much 
outline his system. It's common knowledge that MMY was very close to the 
Shivananda Ashram at Rishikesh and it's teachers and to Swami Laksmanjoo 
up in Kashmir. In fact, if you read Dr. Coplin's dissertation, MMY's 
knowledge base was quite extensive in the Hindu context of yoga and 
spiritual paths.


*Text and Context in the Communication of a Social Movement*
by J.R. Coplin
http://archive.today/gnpyx
**//*>*/
*/The most egregious examples of this were when he'd open the 
microphone to questions, and people would ask him about other 
spiritual paths and other spiritual teachers he knew nothing about. At 
least twice I saw/heard him say things that were *completely* wrong, 
180 degrees opposite from what the organization believed and that the 
teacher taught. To this day I don't know whether he just made this 
shit up, or had heard it from someone who was also making it up, like 
Charlie Lutes.

/*

/*>
*One thing that MMY got correct was the idea that concentration would 
not produce a blissful and enjoyable meditation. All TMers know this - 
it was one of TM's strongest points, that and the checking. Not the TMer 
philosophy.*

*/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

turq, I think you're wrong on two counts: that they would write only negative 
stuff about FFLers; and that they're not writing negative stuff out of fear. I 
think they're just getting on with creating what they prefer. 

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!
Not true. One quick search reveals that 'FFL' has been mentioned in 39 out of 
367 messages there, or over 10% of them. 

If no individual posters here on FFL are being mentioned, it "means" only that 
posters there afraid of being thrown off of their new "more free" forum. 
Because thinking what they do about the people they left behind, they can't 
write ANYTHING about them, because it would by definition be negative, and thus 
prohibited. 

Duh. I'm surprised you couldn't figure this out. 

Oh...wait...you *did* figure it out, and were just trying to create trouble and 
be negative over here, where you could get away with it. Never mind... 

 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    From: "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 

In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:


 Ah, I must have missed that post. 
 
 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
    MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from 
Judy saying: Don't worry.
 
 

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
     Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had 
a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember 
correctly). Some of us were all  hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs 
jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had 
neither become dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she 
knew, and she herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the 
mountaintop.
 
 

  [Unable to display image]From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
   Curtis! 
 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more. 
 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened? 
 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place. 
 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head. 
 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis? 

   



 
  

 

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!
Not true. One quick search reveals that 'FFL' has been mentioned in 39 out of 
367 messages there, or over 10% of them. 

If no individual posters here on FFL are being mentioned, it "means" only that 
posters there afraid of being thrown off of their new "more free" forum. 
Because thinking what they do about the people they left behind, they can't 
write ANYTHING about them, because it would by definition be negative, and thus 
prohibited. 

Duh. I'm surprised you couldn't figure this out. 

Oh...wait...you *did* figure it out, and were just trying to create trouble and 
be negative over here, where you could get away with it. Never mind... 

 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    From: "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 

In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:


 Ah, I must have missed that post. 
 
 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
    MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from 
Judy saying: Don't worry.
 
 

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
     Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had 
a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember 
correctly). Some of us were all  hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs 
jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had 
neither become dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she 
knew, and she herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the 
mountaintop.
 
 

  [Unable to display image]From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
   Curtis! 
 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more. 
 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened? 
 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place. 
 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head. 
 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis? 

   



 
  

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness [1 Attachment]

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dick, you might find a more appreciative audience for this kind of post over at 
the_p...@yahoogroups.com

  From: "Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: Dick Mays  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness [1 Attachment]
   
  [Attachment(s) from Dick Mays included below] The following was written 
by a person on the Invincible America Assembly at MUM in Fairfield, Iowa. This 
person wishes to remain anonymous.
 

Lulled into Oneness
I love the trick Atman plays, luring us into more and more refined values of 
Being, letting us float into finer and finer experience of that which is the 
basis of all experience, the very principle of awareness. We are just barely 
there, so delicate are these finer levels. We are just barely there, just 
softly there like the smallest of feathers floating on air that is barely 
moving at all. It is alluring, it is tender. It is existence in its simplest, 
easiest, most purified form where the boundary between absolute and relative is 
becoming muted, ill defined, mist like.
And then, without the slightest preamble, without even the tiniest of nudges 
from this most refined aspect of Atman, of Being, of this indescribable 
boundless field of intelligence, awareness, and unutterable sweetness, we are 
gone. Even this field is gone. Nothing remains but oneness. No field, no 
individual to consider whether there is a field, nothing but perfect oneness. 
Reality knowing Reality is all that is left, Self knowing Self. The knower and 
process of knowing disassemble into the perfect oneness, the unperturbed 
wholeness, the unaltered Absolute from whence they came.
There is no description of this because there is nothing to describe or nothing 
that can be put into anything that still retains even as much structure as 
thought.

And how did this happen? It was all a gentle trap set with the sweetest of 
bait, the irresistible attraction of our own perfect Self and the time to allow 
us to arrive at this perfect union.

One cannot be hurried, cannot be time aware to get here. One must be free to 
dive into the transcendent, and then just allow the current of Totality to pull 
you into that sweet and simple place where there can be nothing at all but 
That, nothing at all but wholeness, undisturbed, unaltered, unbounded, where 
even the faintest awareness the boundaries of small-s self are finally and 
completely removed.

For this opportunity Maharishi gave us the Invincible America Assembly where 
the invincibility of our own eternal nature can be fathomed, can be 
experienced, can be realized as the very fabric of our Being.

Jai Guru Dev



And some questions
Question:
 
Did you confirm / verify your cc experience with... I can't really think who... 
some one you would trust to say "yes, that's it," or was it just self evident 
(when the experience stayed with you) that it couldn't be anything else? 
 
Did the shift in consciousness make any difference in your flying program?
 

Answer:
 
Good questions.
 
Regarding did I confirm my experience with anyone, I had a friend who had 
"awakened" back in the early 90's. I called him and told him what was 
happening. But that was more like sharing than confirming. It's pretty 
self-evident when it happens. Although you spend quite a few weeks wondering 
everyday if it will go away. Then you finally just relax into it and begin to 
discard those preconceived notions of what you thought it wold be like and 
accept what it IS like.
 
As for my flying program, all I can say is all the sutras became more 
enjoyable, more powerful, more exquisite. Everything became more effortless. By 
that I mean my whole program became more effortless. I remember thinking to 
myself that I had been trying much too hard all those years. But even activity 
took on a more effortless quality, especially as all notion the small-s self 
doing anything at all gradually evaporated in the face of the mounting evidence 
in my experience that Nature does it all.
 
Still, in many very real ways, life is still life. There are things you 
encounter everyday that can prove frustrating. But no negativity lasts. It 
passes through you as water through a screen and you leave it behind very 
quickly. Sometimes you have no idea how you just got in this room, or traversed 
town to get to the market or your job. It just seems to be on auto-pilot, all 
of it.
 
 






  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on 
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's 
gotta mean something!

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    From: "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
    Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 

In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:


 Ah, I must have missed that post. 
 
 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
    MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from 
Judy saying: Don't worry.
 
 

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
     Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had 
a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember 
correctly). Some of us were all  hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs 
jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had 
neither become dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she 
knew, and she herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the 
mountaintop.
 
 

  [Unable to display image]From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
   Curtis! 
 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more. 
 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened? 
 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place. 
 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head. 
 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis? 

   



 
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I was referring to the new Vedic Marshy love fest called the Peak.

  From: "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
     Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend? In a message 
dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:


 Ah, I must have missed that post. 
 
 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
    MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from 
Judy saying: Don't worry.
 
 

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
     Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had 
a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember 
correctly). Some of us were all  hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs 
jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had 
neither become dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she 
knew, and she herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the 
mountaintop.
 
 

  [Unable to display image]From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
   Curtis! 
 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more. 
 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened? 
 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place. 
 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head. 
 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis? 

   



 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?
   
     Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?

You would have to ask Michael to be sure, but I suspect that by suggesting that 
Ann had "moved to the mountaintop" he was referring to the fact that she joined 
the migration of whiners to Jim Flanegin's new Yahoo group "The_Peak." 

Reports comparing that group to *either* Colorado or Heaven are 
unsubstantiated, and probably rumor.  :-)
 

In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:


 Ah, I must have missed that post. 
 
 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
    MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from 
Judy saying: Don't worry.
 
 

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
     Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had 
a bad accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember 
correctly). Some of us were all  hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs 
jyotish is, but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had 
neither become dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she 
knew, and she herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the 
mountaintop.
 
 

  [Unable to display image]From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
 
   Curtis! 
 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more. 
 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened? 
 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place. 
 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head. 
 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis? 

   



 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 The mountain top they're referring to is:

The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages 
 
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages 
 
 The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages 
The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards 
towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenmen...
 
 
 
 View on groups.yahoo.com 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?
  
 



 




  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what does " Moved to the Mountain Top Mean?

[wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]]

Could it be Colorado or heaven etc. I do not comprehend?
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2014 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:



Ah,  I must have missed that post. 



 
  

 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com  [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"   
Sent:< /b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014  8:10 AM
Subject: Re:  [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014  
Lecture



 
 
 
 

MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that  she received an email from 
Judy saying: Don't worry.






 
 
  

 From: "Michael  Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"  

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"   
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52  AM
Subject: Re:  [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture



 
 
 
 

 
Jr claimed that  according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a 
bad accident involving  her legs or she had become dead (if I remember 
correctly). Some of us were all  hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs 
jyotish is, but she never did.  Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had 
neither become dead, nor had any  kind of accident. Ann would never say how 
she knew, and she herself is no  longer living in FFL - she has moved to the 
mountaintop.







 
 
  

 From:  "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"  

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday,  December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George  Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture



 
 
 
 
Curtis!


I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6  
months or more.


I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone  me 
the short story of what happened?


More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th,  
having been clued by several people that it was taking place.


Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to  poke 
in here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early  
discourses, all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.


Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother  Curtis?


































  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ah, I must have missed that post. 

  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
    MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from Judy 
saying: Don't worry.

 

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
    Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were all hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.

 

 From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
    Curtis!
I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?  

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

MJ, Ann DID say how she knew. She said that she received an email from Judy 
saying: Don't worry.

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
    Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were all hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.

 

 From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
    Curtis!
I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Create Peace in the Middle East

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 1:04 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
>
*/This course certainly establishes how many True Believers the TM 
movement feels it has left in the world. The hotel has a maximum of 
507 rooms, 1098 beds. /*

>
That's 1098 more rooms than Rama had out in the the Anza-Borrego Desert 
State Park, and much more comfy as well. So, where exactly did 200 
drug-crazed hippies park their cars and go to the bathroom, when there 
is a maximum of 100 parking spaces and only two public men's and women's 
restrooms? Go figure.


Other question might include: /"Why and what were 200 hippies doing out 
in a desert park in the middle of the night and for what purpose?/ If 
they paid thousands of dollars just to witness some magic tricks, they 
may have been duped big time. On the other hand, if they went there to 
meditate in a group, they may have been practicing the Rama Effect (RE). 
So many questions - so few answers from Barry.

>



*From:* "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:21 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Create Peace in the Middle East

Let's hope this assembly will bring peace in the region.  It would 
probably be more dangerous if the meeting was held in Baghdad.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Global World Peace Assembly to Create Peace in the Middle East 

[FairfieldLife] Could it be the same Judy???

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Judy Stein-Defender of the Faith Web Site
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|   |   |   |   |   |
| Judy Stein-Defender of the Faith Web SitePHIL DONAHUE: I want you to meet 
Jane Doe, a cancer patient. Jane, that's-- JANE DOE: [unintelligible] PHIL 
DONAHUE: A former -- I am corrected, and I'm pleased to be so. What happened, 
Jane?  |
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| View on www.aaskolnick.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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[FairfieldLife] Lulled into Oneness [1 Attachment]

[Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]]

The following was written by a person on the Invincible America Assembly at MUM 
in Fairfield, Iowa. This person wishes to remain anonymous.
 

Lulled into Oneness

I love the trick Atman plays, luring us into more and more refined values of 
Being, letting us float into finer and finer experience of that which is the 
basis of all experience, the very principle of awareness. We are just barely 
there, so delicate are these finer levels. We are just barely there, just 
softly there like the smallest of feathers floating on air that is barely 
moving at all. It is alluring, it is tender. It is existence in its simplest, 
easiest, most purified form where the boundary between absolute and relative is 
becoming muted, ill defined, mist like.

And then, without the slightest preamble, without even the tiniest of nudges 
from this most refined aspect of Atman, of Being, of this indescribable 
boundless field of intelligence, awareness, and unutterable sweetness, we are 
gone. Even this field is gone. Nothing remains but oneness. No field, no 
individual to consider whether there is a field, nothing but perfect oneness. 
Reality knowing Reality is all that is left, Self knowing Self. The knower and 
process of knowing disassemble into the perfect oneness, the unperturbed 
wholeness, the unaltered Absolute from whence they came.

There is no description of this because there is nothing to describe or nothing 
that can be put into anything that still retains even as much structure as 
thought.

And how did this happen? It was all a gentle trap set with the sweetest of 
bait, the irresistible attraction of our own perfect Self and the time to allow 
us to arrive at this perfect union.

One cannot be hurried, cannot be time aware to get here. One must be free to 
dive into the transcendent, and then just allow the current of Totality to pull 
you into that sweet and simple place where there can be nothing at all but 
That, nothing at all but wholeness, undisturbed, unaltered, unbounded, where 
even the faintest awareness the boundaries of small-s self are finally and 
completely removed.

For this opportunity Maharishi gave us the Invincible America Assembly where 
the invincibility of our own eternal nature can be fathomed, can be 
experienced, can be realized as the very fabric of our Being.

Jai Guru Dev



And some questions
Question:
 
Did you confirm / verify your cc experience with... I can't really think who... 
some one you would trust to say "yes, that's it," or was it just self evident 
(when the experience stayed with you) that it couldn't be anything else? 
 
Did the shift in consciousness make any difference in your flying program?
 

Answer:
 
Good questions.
 
Regarding did I confirm my experience with anyone, I had a friend who had 
"awakened" back in the early 90's. I called him and told him what was 
happening. But that was more like sharing than confirming. It's pretty 
self-evident when it happens. Although you spend quite a few weeks wondering 
everyday if it will go away. Then you finally just relax into it and begin to 
discard those preconceived notions of what you thought it wold be like and 
accept what it IS like.
 
As for my flying program, all I can say is all the sutras became more 
enjoyable, more powerful, more exquisite. Everything became more effortless. By 
that I mean my whole program became more effortless. I remember thinking to 
myself that I had been trying much too hard all those years. But even activity 
took on a more effortless quality, especially as all notion the small-s self 
doing anything at all gradually evaporated in the face of the mounting evidence 
in my experience that Nature does it all.
 
Still, in many very real ways, life is still life. There are things you 
encounter everyday that can prove frustrating. But no negativity lasts. It 
passes through you as water through a screen and you leave it behind very 
quickly. Sometimes you have no idea how you just got in this room, or traversed 
town to get to the market or your job. It just seems to be on auto-pilot, all 
of it.
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Karma as Moral Reciprocity, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/10/2014 12:54 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
>
*/Nicely said. That's essentially my view as well. Karma is no more 
mystical than the reaction that follows every action. EVERY action, 
including those of "the enlightened." /*

/*>
*//The theory of karma on the physical level is dirt simple - cause and 
effect. However, whether or not karma or deeds work on the mental level 
of thinking has not been established - it's just a theory.


We know that if we toss a pebble into a still pond there will be ripples 
spreading out to the edge of the pond. We do NOT know how thoughts or 
ideas can effect other individuals. So, it has not been established that 
there is a karmic moral reciprocity.


According to the theory of karma as deeds, people who do good acts 
should be rewarded with good karma; people who do bad things, should be 
the recipients of bad karma. But, we know that the world does not work 
that way because often good people who do good things have bad things 
happen to them.


Apparently Barry has not thought this through, or he is confused, 
because he just agreed with the ME. Go figure.//*

>
*/



*From:* "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:27 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the 
world has ever known


The way I look at 'karma' is it is just action, what comes to you, 
what you do, and the effect of past life, what happened then, cultural 
conditioning, etc. One does not even have to think of it as 'past 
lives', just 'past life'; ten minutes ago could be past life. Maybe 
you insulted someone and felt badly about that. That becomes part of 
the effect of past life. Maybe you got clobbered by a falling tree, 
but survived. That becomes part of past life. There are things you can 
do to maximise unloading the effect of past experience, but that does 
not mean it will be comfortable, or quickly, or completely disposed of.


From what I hear, most people who 'awaken' are not completely free of 
the effects of the past, and they can still do admittedly stupid 
things, be jerks, and don't know all that much, but now they can see 
past a lot of the conditioning and work toward a more pleasant state 
of experience. That is the real value of 'awakening'. It is not you 
are some cool or mystical state, but that you have the ability to 
navigate better, become more perceptive in moving toward doing this or 
not doing that. That is because most of the most problematic baggage 
you brought into the spiritual path has been modulated to some extent, 
and the baggage of the spiritual path itself is seen to be, well, not 
what you thought it was, so most of that mental baggage can be 
discarded and the load is much lighter.


With regard to the external world, I have never heard of a spiritual 
luminary coming up ideas like quantum mechanics, biological evolution, 
higher mathematics, or even basic physics. It does not appear the 
internal world and external world sync up all that well as far as 
practical knowledge of the exterior world.


When M was learning about biology and DNA, he seemed to be completely 
in the dark about what it was all about, but improved somewhat with 
time in his ability to manipulate such ideas. People have this idea 
that as soon as you are awake, in 'unity', you will know everything 
and you will be absolutely free. This is hogwash. What you will find 
out is what freedom is and what its opposite is and how they relate, 
and this makes it easier to navigate through life, but the body is 
still constrained by action in the world, and the functioning of the 
components of the body. People still get old and weak and sick, and 
eventually die. What you get is to watch the process of life with 
minimised fear and with clarity, and that makes it much more enjoyable.


Does anyone know if Maharishi ever learned to drive a car? I did hear 
once, he surprised people by ordering his own aeroplane tickets.

[FairfieldLife] Barry and Judy, was George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can 
someone me the short story of what happened?

>
On 12/10/2014 12:48 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
>
*/I don't think that's ever been explained. MY 'short story' of what 
happened was that after almost two decades of reading posts from her 
that all essentially said, "You MUST argue with me, because I'm 
interesting!" /*

>
Almost everyone here knows this isn't true. It's not difficult to 
understand why Judy labeled Barry a liar. The fact is that Judy had 
Barry pegged as a fibbing poser and this made him go bat-shit crazy. Go 
figure.

>/*
*/
*/I noticed the trend, and stopped either reading them or replying. My 
response therefore became, "No, because you're not."

/*

/*>*/
Everyone also know this is also false - links provided on request.
>
*/I have no idea what HER 'short story' was, and why the 'authfriend' 
name was retired. Perhaps she wasn't feeling friendly towards authors 
any more. /*

>
Non sequitur./*
*/

[FairfieldLife] Cause and Effect, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/9/2014 9:27 PM, anartaxius wrote:
>
The way I look at 'karma' is it is just action, what comes to you, 
what you do, and the effect of past life, what happened then, cultural 
conditioning, etc. One does not even have to think of it as 'past 
lives', just 'past life'; ten minutes ago could be past life. Maybe 
you insulted someone and felt badly about that. That becomes part of 
the effect of past life. Maybe you got clobbered by a falling tree, 
but survived. That becomes part of past life. There are things you can 
do to maximise unloading the effect of past experience, but that does 
not mean it will be comfortable, or quickly, or completely disposed of.

>
The term /"karma"/ in Sanskrit means action or deed. Everything we 
experience is in the past for the simple reason that the future is not 
here yet and the now passes into the past in a split-second; even a 
thought we have is a nano-second into the past. We know from science 
that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction - the law 
of cause and effect. Human excrement always flows down stream - this is 
a fact, from the highest mountain down to a single blade of grass. Karma 
has no exception so long as we are bound to the earth - gravity sucks.


So we are agreed so far.
>
From what I hear, most people who 'awaken' are not completely free of 
the effects of the past, and they can still do admittedly stupid 
things, be jerks, and don't know all that much, but now they can see 
past a lot of the conditioning and work toward a more pleasant state 
of experience. That is the real value of 'awakening'. It is not you 
are some cool or mystical state, but that you have the ability to 
navigate better, become more perceptive in moving toward doing this or 
not doing that. That is because most of the most problematic baggage 
you brought into the spiritual path has been modulated to some extent, 
and the baggage of the spiritual path itself is seen to be, well, not 
what you thought it was, so most of that mental baggage can be 
discarded and the load is much lighter.

>
When the historical Buddha first /"awakened"/, that is experienced 
enlightenment he is quoted as saying, /"So simple, so transparent!"/ 
What exactly did Shakya the Muni experience? He realized in a flash of 
insight that everything is co-dependent on other things. He realized 
that the world is the result of Causation - one thing leads to another - 
there is nothing in the cosmos that is absolutely independent of other 
things. He did not see God or a Deity - he saw existence as it really is.


He saw all his past lives and the suffering he had endured; he saw his 
future lives and all the suffering would be suffering; and he saw all 
the lives of all the people in the past and in the present, all they 
suffering they had endured and would endure. He realized that all life 
is marked by suffering - he saw and realized how things really are: from 
this, that.

>
With regard to the external world, I have never heard of a spiritual 
luminary coming up ideas like quantum mechanics, biological evolution, 
higher mathematics, or even basic physics. It does not appear the 
internal world and external world sync up all that well as far as 
practical knowledge of the exterior world.

>
The highest and most universal knowledge we have is probably 
mathematics, which works on the mental as well as the physical world. 
The operation of the cosmos has two sides: intelligence, which is the 
cause of everything, and the manifestations of intelligence, which are 
the physical and psychological features of the everyday world. In the 
world of basic physics we observe that there is harmony - things do not 
just go here and there at random. Just like in billiards, there is an 
action that results in actions - the Q-ball either hits or misses but 
there is always a reaction that occurs.


The question is, does the theory of karma or cause and effect operate on 
the mental level of thoughts and volition? According to MMY /"because 
Transcendental Meditation directly approaches intelligence, rather than 
the manifestations of intelligence, it solves problems by introducing 
harmony and well-being at the most basic level, and not by dealing with 
problems themselves. That's why it is so effective." /

>
When M was learning about biology and DNA, he seemed to be completely 
in the dark about what it was all about, but improved somewhat with 
time in his ability to manipulate such ideas. People have this idea 
that as soon as you are awake, in 'unity', you will know everything 
and you will be absolutely free. This is hogwash. What you will find 
out is what freedom is and what its opposite is and how they relate, 
and this makes it easier to navigate through life, but the body is 
still constrained by action in the world, and the functioning of the 
components of the body. People still get old and weak and sick, and 
eventually die. What you get is to watch the process of life with 
minim

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dear Rick, towards administratively enforcing a No-fly Zone over the posting of 
unkindness on FFL, it is an excellent time right now given the course of events 
to plan and start such a counter-attack so as to take back our branding of 
FairfieldLife once again by first dis-engaging the unkindness that gets posted 
here and letting those people so inclined to re-pattern their lives otherwise 
in reformative silence for a period of time.   



 Rick there is a chance present here, a fine opportunity now to take back FFL 
and recapture its franchise, the Brand of FFL from the unkindness that has 
swept over the forum. “Now is the Winter of Dis-content.” Make it ours again, a 
free and open forum again reserved and preserved as a place for kind 
thoughtfulness. It is time to have a strict No-fly Zone over FFL at 
Yahoo-groups. Let FFL go silent for a time. Give it a fallow rest.  
 -Buck



 A winter break, imposing a No-Fly-Zone over FFL. This would be a kindness.  
Rick, take and assume a moral leadership and set direction in executive action 
on this now as timely initiative in the re-alignment of FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups with Yahoo-groups guidelines. 
  Sincerely, -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife  



 Dear Rick; 
 21 December coming is the first day of Winter. Let it be the first day of 
Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. It [the first day of Winter] should be 
a good day to begin a dormancy on FFL, a winter's hibernation, a negotiating 
planned disengagement of the culture of unkindness that has unbecome 
FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  Sincere regards, -Buck


 Dear Rick, Asserting and instilling a period like a seasonal silence over FFL 
as a gesture would place more of a firm grip as moral leadership towards 
reforming the general unkindness that spread across FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL 
even unto first day of Spring [March 20th 2015] whence fairer flowers springing 
might arise anew coming out of such reformative depth as a reflective period so 
imposed administratively as a reflective moral silence of a long and silent 
communal FFL winter.  -Buck in Fairfield  


  Rick, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL even 
unto the first day of Spring. [March 20th 2015]



 Dear Rick, Instilling an administrative no-fly zone of silence over 
FairfieldLife as a means of disengagement would be important moral leadership 
in changing the manifest wreckage of unkind tone that this battlefield of FFL 
has become. It is time to clear the FFL field spiritually. 
 I would support you in this, 
  -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  



 Yep silence FFL, suspend it, unto Easter Sunday [April 5, 2015] symbolic to 
the resurrection of something anew and a new hope in the community that was FFL.


 Dear Rick,  
 How about we take, at the least, the rest of the month of December and suspend 
all posting at all to FFL? Start then with a kinder more gentle FFL anew with 
posting on January 1st. Take some time off to re-group.
 -Buck  
 



 Rick, we know and understand that you are busy however; have you been reading 
any of the posts to FFL?


 Rick, Just scroll down through the subject lines if you don't have time to 
read the posts, they are appalling. -Buck


 Rick, the neganauts here are playing you now to see how far they can take it.

 Dear Rick, As an old Friend You see I really don't feel that you should yield 
FairfieldLife over to the methodical negativity that has overrun and overtaken 
our FairfieldLife [FFL] community on Yahoo-groups.  Sincerely, -Buck

 Rick, FairfieldLife [FFL] has been way too important to communal Fairfield 
life in the past to just let it go to the aggressive dogs of unkind negativity 
as some mean and now narrowed successor group caliphate of hateful neganauts.

The larger communal use of FFL that FFL could facilitate in communication:

 Rick, for instance this FFL post is an incredibly important post within the 
things going on right now in the Fairfield meditating community: 404986Re: FW: 
A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of 
Othershttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/404986
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/404986 
 


 Rick,  Could reading the old FFL posts be kept open to scholarship 
 whilst the posting function for everyone could be suspended?
  
  Like, being able to look at at these whilst posting is suspended? ..
 
 
 406280Hammond's Channel of Maharishi and the DC TM Meeting 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/406280 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/406280
 
 
 Or,
 
 
 402694Re: An Old Index to FFL 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/402694 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/402

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dear Rick, towards administratively enforcing a No-fly Zone over the posting of 
unkindness on FFL, it is an excellent time right now given the course of events 
to plan and start such a counter-attack so as to take back our branding of 
FairfieldLife once again by first dis-engaging the unkindness that gets posted 
here and letting those people so inclined to re-pattern their lives otherwise 
in reformative silence for a period of time.
 


 Rick there is a chance present here, a fine opportunity now to take back FFL 
and recapture its franchise, the Brand of FFL from the unkindness that has 
swept over the forum. “Now is the Winter of Dis-content.” Make it ours again, a 
free and open forum again reserved and preserved as a place for kind 
thoughtfulness. It is time to have a strict No-fly Zone over FFL at 
Yahoo-groups. Let FFL go silent for a time. Give it a fallow rest.  
 -Buck



 A winter break, imposing a No-Fly-Zone over FFL. This would be a kindness.  
Rick, take and assume a moral leadership and set direction in executive action 
on this now as timely initiative in the re-alignment of FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups with Yahoo-groups guidelines. 
  Sincerely, -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife  



 Dear Rick; 
 21 December coming is the first day of Winter. Let it be the first day of 
Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. It [the first day of Winter] should be 
a good day to begin a dormancy on FFL, a winter's hibernation, a negotiating 
planned disengagement of the culture of unkindness that has unbecome 
FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  Sincere regards, -Buck


 Dear Rick, Asserting and instilling a period like a seasonal silence over FFL 
as a gesture would place more of a firm grip as moral leadership towards 
reforming the general unkindness that spread across FairfieldLife at 
Yahoo-groups, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL 
even unto first day of Spring [March 20th 2015] whence fairer flowers springing 
might arise anew coming out of such reformative depth as a reflective period so 
imposed administratively as a reflective moral silence of a long and silent 
communal FFL winter.  -Buck in Fairfield  


  Rick, it would be very good to extend such a suspended silence upon FFL even 
unto the first day of Spring. [March 20th 2015]



 Dear Rick, Instilling an administrative no-fly zone of silence over 
FairfieldLife as a means of disengagement would be important moral leadership 
in changing the manifest wreckage of unkind tone that this battlefield of FFL 
has become. It is time to clear the FFL field spiritually. 
 I would support you in this, 
  -Buck, the Patriarch of Peace on FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.  



 Yep silence FFL, suspend it, unto Easter Sunday [April 5, 2015] symbolic to 
the resurrection of something anew and a new hope in the community that was FFL.


 Dear Rick,  
 How about we take, at the least, the rest of the month of December and suspend 
all posting at all to FFL? Start then with a kinder more gentle FFL anew with 
posting on January 1st. Take some time off to re-group.
 -Buck  
 



 Rick, we know and understand that you are busy however; have you been reading 
any of the posts to FFL?


 Rick, Just scroll down through the subject lines if you don't have time to 
read the posts, they are appalling. -Buck


 Rick, the neganauts here are playing you now to see how far they can take it.

 Dear Rick, As an old Friend You see I really don't feel that you should yield 
FairfieldLife over to the methodical negativity that has overrun and overtaken 
our FairfieldLife [FFL] community on Yahoo-groups.  Sincerely, -Buck

 Rick, FairfieldLife [FFL] has been way too important to communal Fairfield 
life in the past to just let it go to the aggressive dogs of unkind negativity 
as some mean and now narrowed successor group caliphate of hateful neganauts.

The larger communal use of FFL that FFL could facilitate in communication:

 Rick, for instance this FFL post is an incredibly important post within the 
things going on right now in the Fairfield meditating community: 404986Re: FW: 
A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of 
Othershttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/404986
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/404986 
 


 Rick,  Could reading the old FFL posts be kept open to scholarship 
 whilst the posting function for everyone could be suspended?
  
  Like, being able to look at at these whilst posting is suspended? ..
 
 
 406280Hammond's Channel of Maharishi and the DC TM Meeting 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/406280 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/406280
 
 
 Or,
 
 
 402694Re: An Old Index to FFL 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/402694 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is one of the things I love about FFL - one gets a glimpse into the 
history of the Movement and what really went on. If one could actually get 
one's hands on the entire tape library of the Movement, it would be quite 
interesting. But of course the Movement will never let them out because to make 
them public would blow their cover totally.

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
    From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


Officially it never would have happened. I had a hook up on the library staff 
and these were transcripts that were under official radar.  It helped me 
understand the different eras of Maharishi's presentation better both in the 
movement and now that I am out. He was a guy who learned as he went along and 
adjusted. His message changed considerably through the years. 

I think in some ways he was just entertaining the people on those early courses 
with his wild stories. Think about the pressure of keeping so many foreigners 
engaged for hours when he had never been a scholar himself. 

This corresponds to my first experience of seeing him have to fill time (6-10 
hours of talks a day for a month) at Squaw Valley in 1968. Before that, I had 
only seen him "perform" in short bursts, which he was always able to steer back 
to his (by then) well-practiced intro lecture. But at Squaw Valley he had 
several hundred people sitting in a room, and he had to find ways to entertain 
them. So he'd drag out (in my opinion) a lot of Other People's Stories and tell 
them as if they were his. 

The most egregious examples of this were when he'd open the microphone to 
questions, and people would ask him about other spiritual paths and other 
spiritual teachers he knew nothing about. At least twice I saw/heard him say 
things that were *completely* wrong, 180 degrees opposite from what the 
organization believed and that the teacher taught. To this day I don't know 
whether he just made this shit up, or had heard it from someone who was also 
making it up, like Charlie Lutes. 
His duties around Guru Dev were not intellectual ones, he was an advance man 
and communications department. So he told stories from every source he could 
remember or dig up to create the impression that he knew about everything. 
Later he had Vedic pundits some in to occupy the time.They would jabber for a 
while and then he would declare that they were saying that transcending was 
blah bah blah.
One very curious thing about the movement is how cagy they are about this era 
of his teaching. It goes so counter to the image of who he is that they 
promote. If this guy was really the most important thinker in modern times 
wouldn't it be imperative to get everything he ever said out?
When I worked for the Regional Office in L.A., I was "in charge of the tapes." 
All of them. Unfortunately, during the period I worked there, that meant that 
not only was I in charge of boxing them up and sending them to the teachers who 
were scheduled to teach one of our residence courses, about twice a month I was 
in charge of boxing up the tapes that Seelisberg had *demanded be returned to 
them* to take them out of circulation. Several times during this period I was 
told to write to all TM teachers in the Western Region and demand that *they* 
send back any "unauthorized tapes" in their possession. 

The impetus for this -- at that time -- was clearly legal. The American TMO was 
still claiming its practices weren't religious in nature, but there were 
*dozens* of tapes out there in which Maharishi himself exhibited exactly *how* 
religious it was. 

Interesting, isn't it? The most important thinker in modern times and people, 
even devout believers have so little access to the thousands of hours of his 
teaching. And with today's random access it would be so easy to get it all 
online and indexed for people to be "enriched" by his profound words.

But his words are hidden because the image is more important than the message. 
It always has been. I believe it is one of the biggest indictment of the 
movement that they have treated his teaching as if no one is trusted to know 
what it is in its completeness. It is as if they know people would realized 
that there is no there, there! 

I completely agree. I honestly think that if most people on this forum were 
forced to go back and listen to a few hours of what *in their minds and 
memories* they consider "Maharishi's Greatest Hits," they'd be shocked to 
discover how repetitive and inane they were, and how little was actually said. 
This is just human nature. *At the time* we were sitting in rooms listening to 
these talks "live," and we were all swept up in the emotion and the enthusiasm 
of it all. So in our minds an association was formed between all of those 
exciting emotions an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Jr claimed that according to Judy's jyotish chart, she had either had a bad 
accident involving her legs or she had become dead (if I remember correctly). 
Some of us were all hoping that Judy would pop up to prove what bs jyotish is, 
but she never did. Ann claimed she knew for a fact that Judy had neither become 
dead, nor had any kind of accident. Ann would never say how she knew, and she 
herself is no longer living in FFL - she has moved to the mountaintop.

  From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture
   
    Curtis!
I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


Officially it never would have happened. I had a hook up on the library staff 
and these were transcripts that were under official radar.  It helped me 
understand the different eras of Maharishi's presentation better both in the 
movement and now that I am out. He was a guy who learned as he went along and 
adjusted. His message changed considerably through the years. 

I think in some ways he was just entertaining the people on those early courses 
with his wild stories. Think about the pressure of keeping so many foreigners 
engaged for hours when he had never been a scholar himself. 

This corresponds to my first experience of seeing him have to fill time (6-10 
hours of talks a day for a month) at Squaw Valley in 1968. Before that, I had 
only seen him "perform" in short bursts, which he was always able to steer back 
to his (by then) well-practiced intro lecture. But at Squaw Valley he had 
several hundred people sitting in a room, and he had to find ways to entertain 
them. So he'd drag out (in my opinion) a lot of Other People's Stories and tell 
them as if they were his. 

The most egregious examples of this were when he'd open the microphone to 
questions, and people would ask him about other spiritual paths and other 
spiritual teachers he knew nothing about. At least twice I saw/heard him say 
things that were *completely* wrong, 180 degrees opposite from what the 
organization believed and that the teacher taught. To this day I don't know 
whether he just made this shit up, or had heard it from someone who was also 
making it up, like Charlie Lutes. 
His duties around Guru Dev were not intellectual ones, he was an advance man 
and communications department. So he told stories from every source he could 
remember or dig up to create the impression that he knew about everything. 
Later he had Vedic pundits some in to occupy the time.They would jabber for a 
while and then he would declare that they were saying that transcending was 
blah bah blah.
One very curious thing about the movement is how cagy they are about this era 
of his teaching. It goes so counter to the image of who he is that they 
promote. If this guy was really the most important thinker in modern times 
wouldn't it be imperative to get everything he ever said out?
When I worked for the Regional Office in L.A., I was "in charge of the tapes." 
All of them. Unfortunately, during the period I worked there, that meant that 
not only was I in charge of boxing them up and sending them to the teachers who 
were scheduled to teach one of our residence courses, about twice a month I was 
in charge of boxing up the tapes that Seelisberg had *demanded be returned to 
them* to take them out of circulation. Several times during this period I was 
told to write to all TM teachers in the Western Region and demand that *they* 
send back any "unauthorized tapes" in their possession. 

The impetus for this -- at that time -- was clearly legal. The American TMO was 
still claiming its practices weren't religious in nature, but there were 
*dozens* of tapes out there in which Maharishi himself exhibited exactly *how* 
religious it was. 

Interesting, isn't it? The most important thinker in modern times and people, 
even devout believers have so little access to the thousands of hours of his 
teaching. And with today's random access it would be so easy to get it all 
online and indexed for people to be "enriched" by his profound words.

But his words are hidden because the image is more important than the message. 
It always has been. I believe it is one of the biggest indictment of the 
movement that they have treated his teaching as if no one is trusted to know 
what it is in its completeness. It is as if they know people would realized 
that there is no there, there! 

I completely agree. I honestly think that if most people on this forum were 
forced to go back and listen to a few hours of what *in their minds and 
memories* they consider "Maharishi's Greatest Hits," they'd be shocked to 
discover how repetitive and inane they were, and how little was actually said. 
This is just human nature. *At the time* we were sitting in rooms listening to 
these talks "live," and we were all swept up in the emotion and the enthusiasm 
of it all. So in our minds an association was formed between all of those 
exciting emotions and the talks we assumed were inspiring them. When you go 
back and listen with the experience of two to three decades of life experience 
under your belt, you are are often surprised at how little was actually said, 
and how much you *projected* into your memories of the Same Old Intro Lecture, 
Rehashed. 

I actually recommend the experience, if you can somehow *find* some of these 
tapes that you have such a fondness for in your memories. I suspect you'd find 
the experience revealing, as I did a few years ago when I decided to go back 
and re-listen to the music I thought was